Nightline (ABC) - 1992-07-16 (Democratic Convention)

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[0:01] I was shocked. Uh there's there's no

[0:04] other word for it. I felt like it was

[0:05] the end of a love affair.

[0:06] >> He's a big Texas blowhard. When it

[0:08] started costing him money to pay for the

[0:11] campaign, he wouldn't spend it.

[0:12] >> I don't know what to do. We don't have a

[0:15] leader right at the moment.

[0:17] >> They are the people Ross Perau left at

[0:20] the altar.

[0:21] Tonight, we join his campaign volunteers

[0:24] in two cities as Bill Clinton tries to

[0:27] make them forget the candidate that got

[0:28] away.

[0:29] >> I am well aware

[0:32] that all those millions of people who

[0:34] rallied to Ross Perau's cause wanted to

[0:38] be in an army of patriots for change.

[0:43] Tonight, I say to them, join us and

[0:46] together we will revitalize America.

[0:50] >> No. No, you don't.

[0:53] [cheering]

[0:53] >> And the volunteers get their first

[0:55] chance to voice their hurt to Ross

[0:57] Perau's closest adviser. [applause]

[1:01] [music]

[1:03] This is ABC News Night Line. Listening

[1:07] to America, reporting from the [music]

[1:09] Democratic National Convention in New

[1:11] York City, Ted Cppel.

[1:15] President Bush did not presumably leave

[1:17] a gone fishing note on the White House,

[1:19] but that's where he was today about a

[1:22] 100 miles from Jackson Hole, Wyoming,

[1:24] doing what is customary when the other

[1:26] side is having its presidential

[1:27] nominating convention. You get out of

[1:29] the way, take a few days off. But this,

[1:32] as we all know, is a most unusual

[1:35] political year until today. In fact, a

[1:38] three-way battle for the White House.

[1:40] And while the Democrats were engaging in

[1:42] a conventional enough sort of

[1:44] convention, that third candidate, Ross

[1:46] Perau, did the unexpected again today.

[1:49] There had been talk of the turmoil

[1:51] within his campaign. We devoted our

[1:53] broadcast to the subject last night. But

[1:55] even those who thought he might quit

[1:57] didn't think he'd do it this soon.

[2:00] Obviously, neither did President Bush or

[2:02] his adviserss. They scrambled, though,

[2:04] and what emerged was this scratchy phone

[2:07] call from the president.

[2:10] Now this is the president. I just called

[2:12] Ross Perau on a very personal basis. I

[2:17] congratulated him. I told him I

[2:20] understood how difficult a decision it

[2:22] must have been. I told him that he had

[2:24] really and truly energized an awful lot

[2:27] of people. Uh obviously I told him I

[2:30] would welcome his support and uh the

[2:34] support of all those who have been out

[2:36] there working for him.

[2:39] They have been jilted at the altar,

[2:41] these Perau supporters, but they are

[2:43] being hotly and ardently pursued by two

[2:46] other suitors. Are they in the right

[2:48] frame of mind to be wooed? We went out

[2:51] to a Perau campaign office in Nutley,

[2:53] New Jersey.

[3:02] >> How long have you all been PRO

[3:03] supporters? I called that 800 number uh

[3:06] probably the week or two after he was on

[3:09] the Larry King uh live and uh same as uh

[3:13] as Rey, he he was uh there a few weeks

[3:16] uh before me and then we began to

[3:18] network and have little small meetings.

[3:20] >> We were just getting organized to the

[3:22] point of where we were in control of

[3:23] what we were doing. We took it out of

[3:25] the house to put it into a storefront

[3:26] before working out of our houses.

[3:28] >> We've had senior citizens. We've had uh

[3:31] uh young people in college who have

[3:33] never voted. We've signed up and

[3:35] registered more v uh uh people in this

[3:38] last week uh than I can begin to tell

[3:41] you.

[3:41] >> Most of the new registrations we had

[3:43] here, they're very interested in change.

[3:44] They wanted they were tired of the

[3:46] Republicans. They were tired of the

[3:47] Democrats. They retire were tired of the

[3:49] same old thing. They thought Russ Perau

[3:52] maybe this is time for a change. Good,

[3:54] bad, but time for a change. Let me let

[3:56] me ask you. You feel you feel hurt,

[3:59] disappointed, afraid, angry. What?

[4:02] >> At first it was anger, total

[4:03] disappointment because we felt we feel

[4:06] the establishment won at this point. We

[4:07] had someplace else to go with our vote.

[4:09] >> He's uh made this decision so

[4:11] prematurely that uh he uh seems to have

[4:15] um have uh just fallen underneath

[4:19] pressure from the establishment and this

[4:21] is what he's been telling us to fight

[4:24] against. feel like uh had a date that

[4:26] didn't show up

[4:28] >> really.

[4:29] >> But I think that he owes us something.

[4:31] We have rallied round because he gave us

[4:34] hope and I think he has to deliver. I

[4:38] don't think he can quit on us

[4:41] and I think he should change his mind

[4:43] and say, "Okay, I'm in for the

[4:46] duration."

[4:46] >> But his credibility is really

[4:49] I don't think he can jump in, jump out,

[4:50] jump in, jump out.

[4:52] >> We still got till November. Maybe maybe

[4:54] there'll be a turnaround. Maybe Pearl

[4:55] will come back. He went this quickly.

[4:57] Quit this quickly. Maybe come back this

[4:59] quickly when he sees the uproar that's

[5:00] going. Maybe he doesn't realize what's

[5:02] behind him.

[5:03] >> Would you forgive Ross Perau? I mean, if

[5:04] you said a week from now, a month from

[5:06] now, boy, I made a terrible mistake. I

[5:08] didn't realize how much you guys were

[5:09] really behind me. I want to come back.

[5:10] >> I absolutely want him to come back. I

[5:13] want him to show us that uh that he is a

[5:17] man who has deserved the loyalty, the

[5:21] enthusiasm, the support because he's

[5:24] seen people at rallies, but he really

[5:27] doesn't know what's been happening here

[5:28] at the grassroot level and there are

[5:30] people who truly believe in him.

[5:32] >> And I think if I was talking to Ross

[5:34] Perau right now, a cliche, uh, winners

[5:38] never quit and quitters never win.

[5:41] What I would say to Mr. Perau is that he

[5:43] dropped out much too early and that he

[5:46] should have given it a much longer

[5:47] chance

[5:49] >> because he had millions of people behind

[5:51] him. Literally millions of people across

[5:53] the country were working for change.

[5:56] >> I'm still I'm still a parole person. I

[5:59] uh won't vote for Clinton and I won't

[6:00] vote for Bush. And I can tell you that I

[6:02] have exercised my franchise since the

[6:05] time that I was old enough to vote. and

[6:08] um and I may just go and do a writing.

[6:13] >> Might be a waste of a vote, right?

[6:15] >> That's all right. But it's making a

[6:16] statement.

[6:17] >> Oh, I will definitely exercise my vote.

[6:19] Um I haven't we've been talking about

[6:22] this since we heard the news. Uh I don't

[6:25] know which way personally I will go. Um

[6:27] I can't see myself voting for George

[6:29] Bush again, though. Personally,

[6:31] >> you did last time?

[6:32] >> Yes.

[6:33] >> Not one of the great days for you all.

[6:34] >> No.

[6:35] >> No. Terrible. Terrible. It's a day that

[6:38] a day that we were all speaking against

[6:39] before. I don't think anybody here,

[6:41] we've all worked very hard on this. None

[6:43] of us will forget today. That's for

[6:45] sure.

[6:46] >> Would you even know whom to call in

[6:48] Dallas to say, "Wait a second. We're

[6:49] outraged. We're furious. Any chance of

[6:51] the man coming?" I mean, is there any

[6:52] communication between

[6:54] >> We have We have Tom Loose's number at

[6:55] the law office.

[6:57] >> Tom Loose. [snorts] Tom Loose is

[6:59] Rosaro's attorney and much more. He is

[7:02] his top adviser and was his campaign

[7:04] manager. Indeed, some say he is Ross

[7:06] Perau's alter ego. He joins us now live

[7:09] from Dallas. Long hard day for you. When

[7:11] you hear some of those people out there

[7:13] saying, "Uh, Perau is my man. He's the

[7:16] one I want. I'm not giving up on him.

[7:18] I'll I'll continue to hope that he comes

[7:20] back." Do you want to give those people

[7:22] any hope whatsoever?

[7:25] >> Well, first of all, I I respect very

[7:27] much uh each one of the people you've

[7:28] been talking to. I think their

[7:30] independence, their self-reliance is uh

[7:33] they were the people that created this

[7:35] movement. And as Ross Perau said very

[7:38] early in the stages of this revolution,

[7:41] this phenomena, um the problems that

[7:45] this country faces are really larger

[7:47] than any one individual. It's going to

[7:48] take all of the people looking in the

[7:50] mirror and seizing the moment and

[7:53] creating this movement. And I I think

[7:55] they've done that. I think they've had

[7:56] an impact on the country and I think

[7:58] they'll continue to have an impact on

[8:00] the country.

[8:00] >> Mr. Loose, you're a smart man. You're a

[8:02] good lawyer. I know you tied, but you

[8:03] heard the question. The question was, is

[8:05] there any hope whatsoever for those

[8:07] folks? Should they harbor any kind of

[8:10] hope that Ross Perau will come back into

[8:12] the race?

[8:14] >> I don't think so. I it seems to me that

[8:16] Ross made it clear today that that he

[8:19] made a tough personal judgment motivated

[8:22] by the best intentions that he felt it

[8:25] was in the best interest of the country

[8:26] that he not run and I think he made that

[8:28] clear today.

[8:30] Tell you what, let's take a quick break.

[8:32] In a moment, we'll be joined by some of

[8:34] the volunteers who answered Ross Perau's

[8:36] call and we'll give them the chance to

[8:38] talk with Tom Loose about the abrupt end

[8:40] of their official campaign.

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[10:59] He dropped out. He shocked the nation.

[11:02] Ross Perau tells Barbara Walters why

[11:04] [music] he decided to end his run for

[11:05] the presidency now on 2020 Friday.

[11:11] Only yesterday, Jeff Greenfield coined a

[11:13] lovely phrase about polls that are taken

[11:16] around this time of year. He said they

[11:17] have about the same stability as a

[11:20] feather in a summer breeze.

[11:21] Nevertheless, what has happened over the

[11:24] past 24 hours is called the convention

[11:26] bounce. a boost in the polls during such

[11:29] party gatherings. And on this last day

[11:31] of the Democratic National Convention,

[11:33] the numbers show that Bill Clinton is

[11:35] soaring in what is now a two-horse race.

[11:38] In an ABC News poll of 527 registered

[11:41] voters earlier tonight, Governor Clinton

[11:44] was the choice over George Bush by a 2:1

[11:47] margin, 58% for Clinton to 29% for Bush.

[11:51] Mr. Clinton also picked up more of the

[11:53] Perau supporters who are likely voters

[11:56] in November. 47% of those pled said they

[11:59] would back Bill Clinton. 31% went with

[12:03] Mr. Bush.

[12:04] Earlier tonight, we were with Perau

[12:06] supporters in Houston and Philadelphia

[12:08] looking on as Bill Clinton used his

[12:10] nomination acceptance speech to make a

[12:13] bid for their hearts and votes.

[12:16] >> It's time for a change in America.

[12:18] >> Yeah, Bill. It's time for a change.

[12:21] hoping on Perau to get up there and make

[12:23] a change, but it looks like a little

[12:26] >> Did you notice that Bush is talking

[12:27] about change now?

[12:28] >> Of course.

[12:29] >> Change, change, change. What are we

[12:30] changing from?

[12:31] >> He was the first man to say the word

[12:32] change.

[12:34] >> Ross Perau.

[12:35] >> My mother taught me.

[12:39] She taught me about family and hard

[12:41] work.

[12:42] >> Why is he talking about his background

[12:44] and then folding that into I'll do this

[12:45] and I'll do that? He was well educated

[12:47] and he was a very smart man and but

[12:50] that's not the issue. The issue is what

[12:52] are you going to do to get us out of the

[12:54] situation that we're in? Tell us. Give

[12:55] us some meat. How about some meat and

[12:57] potatoes?

[12:57] >> He can do it.

[13:01] >> He just sounds like politician.

[13:04] >> He's he's slick. He's a good-look guy,

[13:06] but that's not enough.

[13:07] >> You know, I really don't like negative

[13:09] campaigns. And they're not going to

[13:10] convince me to vote for Bill Clinton by

[13:12] fashing Bush. Well, this is what we're

[13:14] going to get because now it's down

[13:16] >> and Bush is going to back

[13:18] one. You're going to get that.

[13:20] >> George Bush, if you won't use your power

[13:23] to help America, step aside. I will.

[13:28] >> Well, he's saying the right words.

[13:30] >> It's a potent speech.

[13:32] >> Words.

[13:32] >> It is a potent speech.

[13:33] >> And when the Republican campaign

[13:36] convention comes, we'll sit here and

[13:37] we'll say it's very powerful. It's very

[13:40] emotional. And it's a great, you know,

[13:44] >> and now we go live to the homes that you

[13:47] just saw in Houston and Philadelphia

[13:49] where Mr. Perau's campaigners are

[13:50] gathered. Tom Loose, I think it's a sure

[13:52] bet that they're eager to talk with you.

[13:54] Let's give them the opportunity to do

[13:56] that. Uh, folks, there are so many of

[13:58] you, forgive me, uh, if I don't address

[13:59] you by name. Houston, let's go to you

[14:01] first. Uh, the lady whom I spoke to just

[14:04] before the program, go ahead. Do you

[14:05] have a question or a comment for Mr.

[14:07] Loose? I'm sure there's a lot of a lot

[14:09] of explaining that you'd like to hear

[14:11] and we'd like to get that interchange

[14:13] going.

[14:14] >> Uh, hi Tom. Um,

[14:16] >> I'm Ann Chin, manager of the Clear Lake

[14:18] office was ma'am

[14:20] >> was volunteer number two down here uh,

[14:23] starting March the 12th. This little

[14:25] office down here got 11,000 signatures.

[14:28] And I guess there was there's a song out

[14:30] that says, "Who do I turn to if you turn

[14:33] away?" Uh, I guess that's our song we're

[14:36] singing. uh we do anything on earth,

[14:39] Tom, if if we could get him to change

[14:41] his mind. Um you don't know. I have

[14:43] people in the office crying today and

[14:46] this is one of the really a

[14:48] disappointing day in my life. Um

[14:52] yes, ma'am. I I really do I understand

[14:55] there was a lot of sadness here today,

[14:57] too. But I again what I'd like to say to

[15:00] you personally is is that I I know how

[15:03] hard you worked. I know how much this

[15:06] meant. I think we have had an impact in

[15:09] this country. Uh we're not there yet,

[15:11] but I think we've had an impact. And and

[15:13] what I want to assure you of is that

[15:16] Ross Perau did what he really felt was

[15:19] best for this country. Now, that was a

[15:22] hard call and I know many of his

[15:24] supporters disagree with that call, but

[15:27] I don't think they questioned his

[15:28] sincerity and his intention. I I think

[15:30] he did what he thought was best for the

[15:33] country.

[15:34] Tell me this is a political ploy.

[15:38] >> I said, tell me this is a political ploy

[15:40] that we're just stealing some of

[15:42] Clinton's stuff tonight. You know, come

[15:45] on, tell him to change his mind, please.

[15:48] >> Well, you you know, I I feel like there

[15:50] there's one thing we all know about Ross

[15:52] Perau. He he's not much for political

[15:55] ploy. I think what he did was from the

[15:56] heart today. And uh I know it was hard

[15:59] for him and I know it's hard for for

[16:02] you. You know, when I look at what the

[16:03] people particularly in Texas did, it was

[16:06] an incredible effort in a short amount

[16:08] of time. I mean, you just mentioned it.

[16:10] 11,000 signatures in a short period of

[16:13] time. It was remarkable. And I I think

[16:15] it shows the goodness of this country

[16:18] and it shows the seriousness of the

[16:20] problems we face.

[16:21] >> Let me if I may uh direct everyone's

[16:23] attention to Philadelphia now and and

[16:25] ask you in Philadelphia whether any of

[16:27] you have a question as to why now. Why

[16:32] this quickly? Why without any kind of

[16:35] warning? Uh would would one of you like

[16:37] to speak to that point and and discuss

[16:39] it with Mr. Loose?

[16:40] >> My name is Ralph Tagatella and uh I'd

[16:43] like to [clears throat] uh just address

[16:44] this to Mr. Loose. Uh since the

[16:46] gentleman that I would really like to

[16:47] speak to, Mr. Perau is not available.

[16:49] I'll use Mr. Loose as a surrogate. First

[16:51] of all, I just want to express uh the

[16:53] dismay that we feel number one and the

[16:55] the utter shock and disappointment that

[16:57] uh Mr. Perau isn't going to follow this

[16:59] through. uh each of the volunteers in in

[17:01] Philadelphia made a pact with Mr. Perau

[17:03] and we said and he said to us that uh if

[17:06] you'll put our his name on the ballot

[17:08] then uh uh I I'll run for you. I'll do a

[17:11] I'll do a great job running for

[17:12] president and uh you know we did our bit

[17:15] and uh Mr. Perau sold us short. And uh

[17:18] but the thing is that uh I really want

[17:20] to express is the fact that I believe I

[17:21] believe that uh Ross Perau's campaign

[17:23] galvanized America, the disenfranchised

[17:26] middle class America that uh is being

[17:28] sold down the river by uh by uh George

[17:31] Bush at the current time. And uh and uh

[17:34] Ross Perau served to frame the issues.

[17:36] Bill Clinton wasn't talking about the

[17:37] issues uh before Ross Perau came on the

[17:40] scene. George Bush wasn't talking about

[17:42] the issues before George Bush came on

[17:44] the scene. And uh I think what's

[17:46] important for us to do, all the

[17:47] volunteers, and and this is to Houston,

[17:48] and this is to California, and this is

[17:50] to everybody, that now that we're

[17:52] together, let's not fall apart. Let's

[17:54] keep Bill Clinton's feet to the fire.

[17:55] Let's keep George Bush's feet to the

[17:57] fire. And whoever becomes the president

[17:58] of the United States, let's be sure that

[18:00] they know that our wishes need to be met

[18:02] because Ross Perau scared the Jesus out

[18:05] of both of those fellas. And I think

[18:06] they're both going, you know, now that

[18:08] it's over. But, you know, we're going to

[18:11] hold you, Mr. Clinton, accountable. And

[18:12] we are going to hold you, Mr. Bush

[18:14] accountable for what you've done here to

[18:16] the middle class. And you know, Mr.

[18:18] Loose, you're not the gentleman that uh

[18:20] I really want to address the remarks to,

[18:22] but I thank you for being here and I

[18:23] thank you for the efforts that you've

[18:24] made on our behalf.

[18:26] >> Quick comment.

[18:28] >> I appreciate it very much. I I think the

[18:30] gentleman and I'm sorry I didn't catch

[18:31] his name but I think he expressed

[18:34] feelings of a lot of people I heard from

[18:35] today at headquarters and that is the

[18:38] desire of the volunteers to stay linked

[18:40] together to stay together as a movement.

[18:43] I think many people realize this

[18:45] movement is more than one individual and

[18:47] they want to stay linked. They want to

[18:48] hold the party's feet to the fire. I

[18:50] think they should. I think they've

[18:52] changed the agenda of this country. We

[18:55] haven't changed the solutions yet and I

[18:57] think that they need to stay linked

[18:58] together and I hope they will.

[19:00] >> Folks, we're going to take a quick

[19:01] break. When we come back and I would

[19:03] appreciate if first you folks in Houston

[19:05] and then you in Philadelphia would just

[19:06] pick someone who will who will speak for

[19:08] the group. I'd like to hear from you as

[19:11] to whether you have made up your minds

[19:13] yet what you're going to do with your

[19:14] vote. Whether you're going to give it to

[19:15] Clinton, give it to Bush, or do

[19:17] something altogether different with it.

[19:19] We'll continue this discussion in just a

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[22:14] adviser Tom Loose and with some of the

[22:15] volunteers for the abandoned parole

[22:17] campaign in Houston and Philadelphia.

[22:19] Mr. Loose, before we go back to Houston

[22:21] uh only yesterday afternoon or maybe

[22:24] evening, you were saying the campaign

[22:26] would go on. Now, I I hate to put it so

[22:28] bluntly, but you work for a blunt man.

[22:30] Were you lying or didn't you know?

[22:33] Uh

[22:33] >> I was not lying. I was um telling you

[22:35] exactly what I thought at that point in

[22:37] time. Uh Ross didn't make the decision

[22:40] till last night.

[22:42] >> What was it then that caused him to make

[22:44] that decision? Because obviously, as you

[22:46] know, at his news conference, the reason

[22:48] he gave uh namely the the constitutional

[22:51] conditions that would have prevailed in

[22:52] in the House and the possibility of a

[22:54] vote in the House, he's known that for a

[22:57] long time. He didn't just figure that

[22:58] out last night.

[23:00] >> Oh, no. No. And he he didn't say that.

[23:02] He he said that was his assessment of

[23:04] what the election campaign would would

[23:06] end up doing. And that was an assessment

[23:08] that he made, Ted. And of course, he

[23:10] knew the constitutional requirements.

[23:13] >> But what then was it that caused him? I

[23:15] mean, what was the straw that broke the

[23:17] camel's back? You've all said it wasn't

[23:18] Ed Rollins quitting. Uh, you have

[23:21] minimized the degree of disagreement

[23:25] within the campaign. What then was it

[23:27] that caused him last night to say it's

[23:29] just not going to work?

[23:31] >> Well, Ted, Ross is an engineer. He's

[23:34] analytical. Uh, I think he approached it

[23:36] from an analytical standpoint, made the

[23:38] best evaluation he could. There wasn't

[23:39] any straw that broke the camel's back.

[23:42] He made an analytical uh, approach to

[23:44] the problem, and that was his

[23:46] assessment.

[23:47] >> All right, let me turn now to the folks

[23:48] in in Houston uh, and maybe one of you

[23:51] will act as a spokesperson for the rest.

[23:54] Have you figured out yet what you're

[23:56] going to do for the rest of this

[23:57] campaign? Are you going to sit it out?

[23:59] you're going to go with Clinton, Bush,

[24:00] or or work for some third party

[24:03] candidacy yet to be decided. Do you

[24:05] know?

[24:06] >> Uh, thank you for asking the question,

[24:07] Mr. Cppel and Mr. Lewis. My name is

[24:10] Harry. I'm a Perau supporter, just like

[24:12] 20 million other Perau supporters

[24:14] throughout the country, and we think

[24:15] that Mr. Perau is the best possible man

[24:17] for president of the United States. This

[24:20] is an important position, and we need a

[24:22] man with the integrity that Mr. Perau

[24:24] has in order to lead us. Every one of us

[24:27] knows that the Republicans and the

[24:28] Democrats are directly to blame for all

[24:30] of the problems in this country and we

[24:33] demand that Mr. Perau step up and

[24:35] fulfill himself as he asked us to put

[24:38] him on the ballot. We have done that and

[24:40] stand up and lead this country. We must

[24:42] have a leader and it is not good enough

[24:44] for him to just simply sit back and say,

[24:46] "Well, we've energized the country or

[24:48] we've done this or we've done that." We

[24:50] have not done anything and right now it

[24:51] is business as usual and we want Mr.

[24:54] Perau to step forth and put it into the

[24:56] house. So what? We will put Mr. Perau

[24:58] into the White House. You offered us You

[25:02] offered us hope and we have been your

[25:05] army. We have been your soldiers. There

[25:06] are 20 million of us that the president

[25:08] is trying to get right now and he's not

[25:10] going to get us. Clinton's trying to get

[25:11] us and he's not going to get us. You've

[25:14] got us. Let's do it. Let's save our own

[25:16] country.

[25:18] >> Mr. Loose.

[25:20] Well, again, I I understand very much

[25:22] what the gentleman has expressed and I

[25:24] just think there is an honest

[25:26] disagreement. There is a disagreement

[25:28] about what will happen from this point

[25:30] forward. I think what we need to focus

[25:32] on is what you know, let's look at what

[25:35] would have happened if we hadn't tried

[25:37] this at all. We have we have made a

[25:39] difference. I think we can make a

[25:40] difference in the future.

[25:41] >> Mr. Loose, let me just jump in for a

[25:42] moment. Folks in Philadelphia, we've got

[25:44] 45 seconds. If one of you would just act

[25:46] a spokesperson again, tell me you agree

[25:48] with the folks in Houston or do you have

[25:49] a different point of view?

[25:50] >> Well, I think that Houston's correct.

[25:53] However, we're a force ourselves right

[25:56] now. I really think we should stay

[25:58] united. Whatever party, if they want us

[26:00] to go over to them, they have to do as

[26:03] we the people want them to do. We want

[26:06] to show them that we are a force to be

[26:08] reckoned with and we want them to listen

[26:10] to us. Bill Clinton, he said all the

[26:13] right words tonight, but that doesn't

[26:15] mean I believe him. He just said

[26:17] everything that he wanted us to hear

[26:20] because he thought we would like to hear

[26:21] it.

[26:21] >> You folks are not only a force to be

[26:23] reckoned with. You'll have to forgive

[26:25] me. I I just wish we could listen to you

[26:26] a little longer tonight. I don't know if

[26:28] Mr. Loose would like to exchange views

[26:30] with you a little longer, but uh you are

[26:32] all passionate people and I thank you so

[26:34] much for letting us come into your

[26:36] homes. Mr. Loose, I know what a long and

[26:37] difficult day it's been for you. My

[26:39] thanks to you for joining us. Well, I

[26:41] want to thank the volunteers. Thank you.

[26:43] >> I'll be back in a moment.

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