MSNBC - 2006-11-29 - 9 a.m. (E)

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[0:00] Islamist

[0:00] >> for people who are looking in the future

[0:01] because a lot of people I think Madonna

[0:03] was hoping to inspire others as Angelina

[0:04] Jolie did to feel like they could go to

[0:07] these other countries and and and bring

[0:08] up these uh young children in in a

[0:11] better environment so they could go back

[0:12] and contribute to their countries later.

[0:14] This could have farreaching effects.

[0:15] >> No, it really could because there's

[0:16] really two sides of this. On the one

[0:17] hand, we certainly want every child that

[0:20] needs a home to be given the best home

[0:21] that it can be given. On the other hand,

[0:22] we don't want wealthy people essentially

[0:25] swooping into countries and buying

[0:26] babies and, you know, cutting the line

[0:28] or or breaking the rules. So, this is

[0:30] going to put the spotlight on

[0:31] international adoption and I hope put it

[0:33] in a light that makes it easier and more

[0:35] favorable for people like Madonna, like

[0:37] Angel Lina, Julie, any mom, any dad that

[0:40] wants to become a parent and give an

[0:41] orphan or a child that needs a home a

[0:43] proper home. This might not be a bad

[0:45] thing. A

[0:45] >> I was going to say, I know you're not a

[0:47] a soothsayer here, but what are the

[0:48] chances that that Madonna's child gets

[0:50] ripped out of her arms and sent back to

[0:51] an orphanage?

[0:52] >> Well, I don't think that's going to

[0:53] happen because the courts have said that

[0:55] the child can be placed with her for 18

[0:56] months to see whether she's a fit

[0:58] parent. she'll probably be found a fit

[0:59] parent given the fact she's got a

[1:00] 10-year-old and a six-year-old. Now, if

[1:02] they find that she cut the line or she

[1:04] broke the rules, they may say, "Well and

[1:06] good, but now the child has already been

[1:08] with her. It would be more disruptive to

[1:10] this child to uproot the child and bring

[1:11] him back." Maybe what they'll say is

[1:13] okay on this one, but next time we're

[1:15] going to follow the rules.

[1:16] >> All right, MSNBC senior legal analyst

[1:18] Susan Violin, thank you.

[1:19] >> Thank you. Well, President Bush is on

[1:21] his way to Jordan right now for a key

[1:23] meeting with Iraq's Prime Minister, but

[1:25] back at home, the gloves are off and

[1:27] incoming House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is

[1:29] giving Mr. Bush a verbal spanking, so to

[1:32] speak, over his war rhetoric. That is

[1:34] after the president once again blamed

[1:36] al-Qaeda for causing the violence in

[1:38] Iraq and again reiterated the country is

[1:40] in the central front in the war on

[1:41] terror. Now, back at home, the future

[1:44] speaker dismissed that claim and the

[1:46] president.

[1:48] The 9/11 commission uh dismissed

[1:51] [clears throat] that notion a long time

[1:53] ago and uh I feel sad that the president

[1:56] is resorting to it again.

[1:59] Congresswoman Pelosi says the Democratic

[2:01] majority would like to work with the

[2:02] White House to stop the violence in

[2:04] Iraq, but admitted it may not be

[2:05] possible unless the president changes

[2:07] his tone. Here with me now is

[2:09] Congressman Dennis Cusinich, Democrat

[2:11] from Ohio. Congressman Cusinich, thanks

[2:12] for being with us.

[2:14] >> Good morning. So if if Democrats like

[2:17] Nancy Pelosi believe that the president

[2:19] is lying here, and that is basically

[2:20] what she was implying there with that

[2:22] statement, uh why then is Pelosi and and

[2:26] other lead Democratic leaders then

[2:27] saying, "Let's work with the president.

[2:29] Let's try to find some common ground and

[2:30] and why are they so against impeaching

[2:32] him if they truly believe he is lying to

[2:34] the American people?"

[2:36] >> Well, you raise a number of questions.

[2:38] First of all, our new speaker Nancy

[2:40] Pelosi has been strongly opposed to the

[2:42] war, and I think she has made a an

[2:45] appropriate estimation of what the

[2:46] administration's conduct has been. I

[2:48] think that the Democrats have always

[2:50] wanted to work with Republicans, but now

[2:51] the Republicans are going to have to

[2:53] work with us in getting our troops home

[2:55] from Iraq. It's really important that we

[2:58] respond to what was a powerful

[3:00] referendum in 2006 on the Iraq war. The

[3:03] American people want our troops home. I

[3:05] think everyone in Congress is cognizant

[3:07] of that. I think Speaker Pelosi is

[3:09] someone who is going to be counted on to

[3:11] respond to the will of the American

[3:13] people.

[3:13] >> And and Speaker elect Pelosi also to

[3:16] point out specifically what she said

[3:17] said she was sad for him, sad for the

[3:20] president. A pretty condescending tone

[3:21] there when speaking about the president.

[3:23] Is that a danger at all that uh someone

[3:26] like speaker like Pelosi could perhaps

[3:28] make Americans uh feel like this is a

[3:31] smug and superior comment?

[3:34] Well, I I think that uh the manner in

[3:36] which we approach the administration is

[3:38] important. I also believe that we have

[3:40] to be candid with the administration.

[3:41] This administration has been coddled by

[3:43] the media, by uh the past leadership in

[3:46] Congress, and they've basically been

[3:48] enabled to lie to the American people,

[3:50] to distort the purpose of our uh uh uh

[3:53] of our presence in Iraq. uh we need an

[3:56] approach which is straight from the

[3:57] shoulder candid uh the administration

[4:00] needs to uh be addressed with the

[4:02] reality that we have to take a new

[4:04] direction and that direction is out of

[4:05] Iraq

[4:06] >> and that said Congressman Cusenich and

[4:08] you pointed this out that Nancy Pelosi

[4:10] voted against the Iraq war from the

[4:12] beginning and yet if you look at what

[4:13] Nancy Pelosi wants to accomplish in the

[4:15] first 100 hours that she laid out as the

[4:17] speaker of the house of the 110th

[4:19] Congress Iraq isn't mentioned is that an

[4:22] oversight why isn't it a part of that

[4:24] 100 hour plan.

[4:26] >> Well, I I think that we need to pursue

[4:29] uh policy simultaneously. First of all,

[4:32] there is a democratic economic agenda

[4:33] which is urgent. We have to realize that

[4:36] our ability to accomplish an agenda

[4:37] depends on our getting out of Iraq. So,

[4:39] I think we can move forward

[4:40] simultaneously with a new democratic

[4:42] agenda and with plans to bring our

[4:45] troops home. I don't think the two are

[4:46] mutually exclusive. I think that

[4:48] there'll be a good discussion as we

[4:50] return uh in the new Congress in January

[4:52] about how we might be able to proceed

[4:54] simultaneously to bring our troops home

[4:57] and to advance a democratic economic

[4:59] agenda to improve the health, the

[5:01] education and housing and so many other

[5:03] opportunities for the American people.

[5:05] >> Congressman Cusinage, do you believe

[5:07] Nancy Pelosy's words were so in in so

[5:09] many words a warning shot to the

[5:11] president of the United States?

[5:13] Look, I'm going to vote for Nancy Pelosi

[5:15] for speaker of the House of

[5:16] Representatives. We don't need to engage

[5:18] in aggressive rhetoric. That's what

[5:19] Nancy Pelosi was cautioning against, and

[5:21] I don't want to engage in an uh at this

[5:23] moment. What I think needs to be done is

[5:25] that the president of the United States

[5:26] has to be aware that the people of this

[5:28] country voted for a new direction in

[5:30] Iraq. That direction is out. Our speaker

[5:32] is Nancy Pelosi will be someone who will

[5:35] help bring to the president of the

[5:37] United States every day the reality of

[5:39] what the American people are insisting

[5:40] upon. All right, Congressman Dennis

[5:42] Cusinich of Ohio. Thanks so much for

[5:44] your time.

[5:45] >> Thank you very much.

[5:47] >> Well, take a look at this. A modern-day

[5:49] Bonnie Clyde stealing thousands of

[5:50] dollars in electronics from a North

[5:52] Texas Walmart. Police don't think this

[5:54] is their first time at it, either. The

[5:56] surveillance video shows a man loading

[5:58] up a shopping cart with iPods. It's one

[6:00] of three carts he and a woman filled and

[6:03] then just wheeled out of a fire door,

[6:05] tossed them into a getaway car, and then

[6:07] took off. Investigators think the same

[6:09] two also hit another Walmart in Fort

[6:12] Worth. Well, winter doesn't officially

[6:15] begin for three weeks, but temperatures

[6:16] are so cold in Washington state. The

[6:19] roads are still covered in ice from the

[6:20] weekend storms. A truck driver lost his

[6:23] grip and his semi started sliding down a

[6:25] hill. Several cities, and there you see

[6:27] it. Several cities dropped to record low

[6:29] temperatures, including a chilly 22

[6:31] degrees in Seattle. WeatherPplus.com

[6:33] meteorologist Jeff Reneer is tracking

[6:35] today's Arctic blast. Jeff, good

[6:37] morning.

[6:38] >> Oh, good morning to you too, Amy. That

[6:39] Arctic blast is going to be heading even

[6:41] as far east as New York City and Boston

[6:43] by this weekend. It's just starting to

[6:46] move right in throughout parts of the

[6:47] central US, which is going to cause a

[6:48] big mess of problems right here in the

[6:50] northwest. Currently, you can see we

[6:52] have 20s and 30s all the way down from

[6:55] Seattle into sections of Northern

[6:56] California. Temperatures below zero

[6:58] here. That's not even including the

[7:00] windchill in Billings, Jackson, Wyoming,

[7:02] also in Great Falls. And the cold air

[7:05] now moving further eastward. This is

[7:07] where we're going to run into some

[7:08] problems. You can see currently only 19

[7:10] in Omaha, 32 in Kansas, 28 in uh

[7:13] Witchah, and 21 in Minneapolis. Just

[7:16] here a couple hours away in Chicago and

[7:17] St. Louis, temperatures in the 50s and

[7:19] 60s. So, this is where we're going to

[7:21] run into some big problems as this cold

[7:23] air meets up with some moisture moving

[7:25] in from the Gulf. It's going to produce

[7:27] uh some rain, some snow, some mix of

[7:30] conditions. And our biggest problem here

[7:31] in Kansas City is our ice storm warning

[7:33] from noon today till 6:00 a.m. tomorrow.

[7:36] That could cause uh certainly a lot of

[7:38] headaches. Kansas City expecting 36°

[7:40] going down to 18 tonight. That's our

[7:42] worst weather in America for today. But

[7:44] the ice again going to be a big problem

[7:46] from noon all the way through tonight in

[7:48] Kansas City. So watch out.

[7:49] >> All right, Jeeoff, thanks for the

[7:50] warning. Well, Britney Spears is

[7:52] rebounding quickly from her split with

[7:54] husband Kevin Federline. She's dancing,

[7:56] drinking, and chain smoking with Paris

[7:59] Hilton and Lindsay Lohan. If you've uh

[8:00] checked out any of the rags lately,

[8:02] you'll see all the photos. But will all

[8:04] of her partying hurt her chances for

[8:06] keeping custody of her two children? I'm

[8:08] joined now by defense attorney Rebecca

[8:10] Rose Woodland and former prosecutor Lisa

[8:12] Pinto. Thanks for being with us, both of

[8:13] you.

[8:14] >> Hi. How are you?

[8:15] >> Hi. How's it going?

[8:16] >> All right. So, Rebecca, all of these

[8:18] photos, and I'm sure you've seen them

[8:19] all over, especially the New York

[8:21] tabloids of of uh some very uh exciting,

[8:24] fun uh crazy nights for Britney Spears.

[8:27] Does that hurt her when it comes to

[8:28] custody?

[8:29] >> Well, I the judge is going to take into

[8:31] account who is the most fit parent.

[8:33] Unfortunately, between these two people,

[8:36] I can't imagine who's fit. All they ever

[8:38] want to do is party, drink, and have a

[8:41] good time, which is great. But when you

[8:43] have two children at home, who's caring

[8:45] for these children? There's a baby, an

[8:47] infant baby and a very, very young

[8:49] toddler. I think this is going to be a

[8:51] major issue. And the judge trying to

[8:53] talk responsibility to both of them when

[8:56] he meets with them. Yeah. Lisa, I want

[8:58] to get your take on this, too, because

[8:59] uh as Rebecca so aptly pointed out, Kay

[9:02] Fed ain't exactly uh the uh dad of the

[9:04] year. Uh but what about this Paris

[9:06] Hilton influence? Do you think that

[9:08] plays a role in this at all? probably

[9:09] certainly why the paparazzi have added

[9:11] uh some extra attention to uh curtailing

[9:14] and surveilling Britney Spears.

[9:16] >> Well, you know, if you're trying to

[9:17] impress the family court judge with your

[9:19] suitability as a young mother who's able

[9:21] to provide emotional stability in the

[9:23] home, probably Paris Hilton, Lindsay

[9:25] Lohan, not the best role models. Plus,

[9:28] strutting around town with your boobs

[9:30] hanging out doesn't exactly show the

[9:32] modesty and perhaps uh [clears throat]

[9:35] sobriety that a young mother should

[9:36] have. I think they're the the issue here

[9:38] though is does Kevin really want these

[9:40] kids or is he playing the ace in the

[9:42] hole that every father plays when they

[9:44] either want to give less money to the

[9:46] woman or get more money from the woman

[9:48] which is to say I want sole custody

[9:50] because then he's got a bargaining chip.

[9:52] He's got something to negotiate with

[9:53] Britney. She has an ironclad prenup. She

[9:56] said everything's separate property so

[9:58] he ain't got nothing unless she can get

[10:00] him to come to the table and bargain for

[10:02] to get the custody. Yeah, she probably

[10:04] didn't do herself any favors when she

[10:05] took off her pants and uh shared a u

[10:08] some black fishnet hose with Paris

[10:11] Hilton. And that was a nice photo for

[10:12] her to remember to share with her kids

[10:14] later in life. Uh Rebecca Kayfed uh his

[10:17] album Playing with Fire sold less than

[10:19] 2,000 copies. Uh as we just heard Lisa

[10:22] point out, he doesn't really have the

[10:24] money in his corner. How much does do

[10:26] finances affect the deal when it comes

[10:27] to custody?

[10:29] >> Well, a judge is supposed to separate

[10:31] that. He's just supposed to see if

[10:33] someone can care for the children

[10:35] clearly and provide them with food and

[10:36] support and a and a roof over their

[10:38] heads. I I'm sure I think he made a

[10:41] certain amount of money in the millions

[10:43] for producing that reality show that

[10:45] they had together. So, he does have some

[10:47] assets. I don't know what he spent so

[10:49] far, although he's been living off her

[10:51] apparently. So, I think he has some sort

[10:53] of a bank account to show an income

[10:55] coming in. He claims he's going to be a

[10:57] producer of yet another reality show

[10:59] where he will be getting money. So, he

[11:01] will be able to show some uh financial

[11:03] stability to have these children. But, I

[11:06] mean, in terms of their emotional

[11:08] stability, both of them seem to really

[11:10] need some help in that area. As we're

[11:12] looking at a lovely photo there of

[11:14] Britney Lisa, one last question for you.

[11:16] How do you think this is going to play

[11:17] out in court? Is this going to get ugly?

[11:19] Uh, I think so. But I think eventually

[11:21] Britney's going to pay him off is my

[11:23] prediction. He's going to give her sole

[11:26] custody have or maybe sole custody

[11:27] limited visitation. She's going to write

[11:29] him a check once a month and I think the

[11:31] deal will be done. The issue is we

[11:33] should all stay on them and make sure

[11:34] the kids are getting strapped in car

[11:35] seats going to school and not living in

[11:37] a smoke filled house.

[11:39] >> Those are all valid points. Former

[11:41] prosecutor Lisa Pinto and defense

[11:43] attorney Rebecca Rose Woodland. Thank

[11:44] you. We appreciate it.

[11:45] >> Thank you, Amy.

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[14:59] Amadina addressed to the American people

[15:02] will be released at the UN later today.

[15:05] There's no word yet on what the letter

[15:06] specifically says. Akmadina wrote a

[15:09] rambling 18-page letter to President

[15:11] Bush back in May. Well, right now,

[15:13] President Bush is on his way to that

[15:15] crucial meeting with the Iraqi prime

[15:16] minister in Jordan. The president

[15:18] wrapped up NATO meetings in Lafia this

[15:20] morning before leaving for Jordan, and

[15:22] he's going to arrive there around noon

[15:23] Eastern time. Shortly thereafter, the

[15:25] president will meet with the Iraqi Prime

[15:27] Minister Nori al- Maliki and Jordan's

[15:29] King Abdullah. This all comes on the

[15:31] heels of a leak of a classified memo

[15:34] from President Bush's national security

[15:35] adviser who expressed doubts about

[15:38] Malake's capacity to control the

[15:40] violence. NBC's Kelly O'Donnell is in

[15:43] Latia for us.

[15:45] Good day. In advance of the Bush Malake

[15:48] meeting in Aman, Jordan, that classified

[15:50] memo became public with its blunt

[15:52] assessment of the prime minister's

[15:54] capabilities, his shortcomings, and what

[15:56] the US can do to help. Senior adviserss

[15:59] claim that the one secret document is

[16:01] not a slap in the face to the Iraqi

[16:03] leader.

[16:05] With political pressure and expectations

[16:08] both on high,

[16:09] >> it's going to be an important meeting.

[16:10] >> Today's face-to-face visit must now deal

[16:13] with the exposed contents of a five-page

[16:15] classified memo. First obtained by the

[16:17] New York Times and confirmed by NBC

[16:19] News. The document was written by the

[16:21] president's national security adviser,

[16:23] Steven Hadley, after an October visit to

[16:26] Iraq. It spells out in detail

[16:28] administration doubts about Malakei's

[16:30] leadership. One assessment, the reality

[16:33] on the streets of Baghdad suggests

[16:34] Maliki is either ignorant of what is

[16:36] going on, misrepresenting his

[16:38] intentions, or that his capabilities are

[16:40] not yet sufficient to turn his good

[16:42] intentions into action. Today, the White

[16:45] House insisted the president has

[16:47] confidence in Malake and argues the memo

[16:50] discusses a range of possibilities and

[16:52] does not render a final judgment on the

[16:54] prime minister. Administration officials

[16:56] say Malakei has good intentions, but a

[16:58] big deficiency of capability. The memo

[17:01] lists a series of nine steps Maliki

[17:03] needs to take, including a cabinet

[17:05] shakeup, expansion of the Iraqi army,

[17:07] and suspension of suspect Iraqi police

[17:10] units. The national security adviser

[17:12] writes that pushing Malake to take these

[17:14] steps without augmenting his

[17:16] capabilities could force him to failure.

[17:19] To help Maliki survive politically, the

[17:21] memo urges the US take seven steps,

[17:24] including giving Malakei more public

[17:26] credit, more control of forces, and

[17:28] urging Saudi Arabia to use its influence

[17:31] on Sunnis to join the political process.

[17:34] The president is said to be displeased

[17:36] the memo was leaked. Advisers say the US

[17:39] ambassador to Iraq is reaching out to

[17:41] Malake to try to smooth over any

[17:43] concerns he may have in advance of the

[17:45] president getting together with him in

[17:46] Aman, Jordan. The meetings take place

[17:49] today and extend into tomorrow. I'm

[17:51] Kelly O'Donnell traveling with the

[17:52] president. Now back to you.

[17:54] >> All right, Kelly. Thank you. Did the

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[22:15] expert at professor of John J. College

[22:17] of Criminal Justice. Thanks for being

[22:18] with us. Good morning, Amy. Nice to be

[22:20] with you.

[22:20] >> So, uh, it's been said that this

[22:22] substance palonium 2110210 was sprinkled

[22:25] on his sushi. Uh, tell us how it would

[22:27] likely have been put into his food and

[22:29] how he

[22:30] >> It's Chris in the control room. And

[22:31] Professor Kolinsky, I I apologize. I

[22:33] want to take our viewers to Queens, New

[22:35] York right now. And Amy, you can tell us

[22:36] a little bit more about what we're

[22:37] seeing here.

[22:38] >> Well, uh, again, this is in Queens, New

[22:40] York, and we know that this is all about

[22:42] a case that's generated a ton of outrage

[22:44] in New York City. Uh this is of course

[22:47] the death of Shawn Bell. He was to be

[22:49] married uh that day. He was killed after

[22:52] a barrage of 50 bullets from police uh

[22:55] came out his car. Two of his passengers

[22:57] were injured. There have been fiery

[22:59] opinions both for and against the NYPD.

[23:02] And we're expecting today to hear from

[23:03] the fiance of Shawn Bell, Nicole

[23:05] Paltree, as well as Jesse Jackson and Al

[23:08] Sharpton. Al Sharpton has been very

[23:09] outspoken on this issue to date. Um

[23:13] >> can we pray? Can we pray? So, we're

[23:15] they're going to begin with a prayer

[23:16] there in Queens. Uh before we hear from

[23:18] Nicole and from Jesse Jackson and El

[23:20] Sharpton here at this moment,

[23:22] >> let's take a listen

[23:23] >> with this family expressing our deep

[23:26] hurt for all of our brothers and sisters

[23:30] across this state and around the nation.

[23:33] We pray, oh God, that you might minister

[23:35] to this mother, to this wonderful

[23:39] partner.

[23:40] We ask, oh God, that you might give them

[23:42] strength at this hour.

[23:44] Make of this spot a a shrine of hope,

[23:48] >> a place of new possibility,

[23:50] a place of healing. We thank you for the

[23:54] sensitive leadership of Reverend Al

[23:55] Sharpton and how he has ministered to

[23:58] all of us in this city in this difficult

[24:00] hour. Now bless us as we go forward. May

[24:04] there be new opportunities for renewal

[24:07] and revival.

[24:09] In thy name we pray.

[24:11] >> Amen.

[24:13] >> Amen. Can we all pause for a m moment of

[24:15] silence?

[24:18] >> All right. So, a moment of silence there

[24:20] in Queens, New York. Again, we are

[24:22] expecting to hear from the fiance of

[24:24] Shawn Bell, Nicole Paul Trey. She was to

[24:26] marry Shawn the day that he was killed

[24:29] uh in his car. Uh there was a barrage of

[24:32] 50 bullets by police just outside this

[24:34] strip club. Uh he was leaving there

[24:37] around 4 a.m. Police version of events

[24:40] say that they believe that there was a

[24:41] gun in the car. Uh the car actually

[24:43] rammed and hit one of the undercover

[24:45] police officers and he saw someone,

[24:48] according to this police officer, reach

[24:50] for uh his his uh waist. He thought he

[24:53] may have been reaching for a gun. So he

[24:55] fired some shots. Then another car of

[24:58] undercover agents came up, heard shots,

[25:00] thought they were being fired at, and

[25:02] then shot, as we mentioned, a number of

[25:04] bullets into that vehicle, killing Shawn

[25:06] Bell and injuring his two passengers.

[25:09] And as you can imagine, this has incited

[25:11] uh quite a bit of fury in the community

[25:13] here in the New York area against the

[25:15] NYPD as an investigation is ensuing

[25:17] right now. Uh this is the fiance right

[25:20] now as as we're listening to this and

[25:22] watching this has actually returned to

[25:24] the scene just outside the strip club in

[25:25] Jamaica, Queens. This is of course where

[25:28] this all went down. We heard from the

[25:30] groom's family yesterday as well for the

[25:32] first time, his father expressing

[25:33] disbelief that his son uh was in fact

[25:36] dead. Uh now we understand that police

[25:39] involved in the incident have have

[25:41] repeatedly said and continue to say that

[25:44] the men in the car refused to stop. But

[25:46] the big question was whether or not

[25:48] these men knew that there were police

[25:51] that they say they didn't know that that

[25:53] the police were there. They thought that

[25:54] perhaps they were under fire from

[25:55] another group of men. Uh but we heard a

[25:58] report today in one of the local

[25:59] newspapers, one of the police officers

[26:01] involved in the shooting saying, "I held

[26:03] up my badge. I screamed police uh before

[26:06] I fired. Uh so uh this is certainly

[26:09] there's a lot of confusion and a lot of

[26:10] differing uh versions of what happened

[26:14] on that early morning on Saturday

[26:16] morning at about 4:00 a.m. And again,

[26:18] Shawn Bell was expected to marry his

[26:21] high school sweetheart, the mother of

[26:22] his two children, Nicole Paltree, just

[26:25] hours after this.

[26:28] So, as we continue to watch the very

[26:30] emotional events there in Queens, New

[26:32] York, and we're going to keep our eye on

[26:34] the podium when we hear and we see

[26:35] Nicole Paul Trey and Jesse Jackson and

[26:37] Al Sharpton alongside her begin to

[26:39] speak. We will bring that to you live.

[26:41] But in the meantime, we're going to

[26:42] return to our guest, Larry Kovalinsky.

[26:44] As we were talking about uh this very

[26:46] intriguing story, the death of a former

[26:48] Russian spy. He was poisoned. And as I

[26:51] was saying, uh, Professor Kovalinsky,

[26:53] many people believed this, uh, material,

[26:55] palonium 2110, this radioactive material

[26:58] was sprinkled on his sushi. Is that

[27:00] possible? How would this work?

[27:01] >> Well, let me let me first tell you that,

[27:03] uh, this is a very toxic uh, radioactive

[27:06] substance, pelonium 210. In fact,

[27:08] imagine a period at the end of a

[27:11] sentence. Uh, imagine pelonium that

[27:14] size. That is about 3,400 times the

[27:18] lethal dose. Uh in other words, you

[27:20] don't have to sprinkle it. The tiniest

[27:22] little amount will uh cause acute

[27:25] radiation poisoning. It is um ionizing

[27:28] radiation. Uh it essentially will uh

[27:32] collide with water and uh oxygen uh

[27:36] inside of cells creating very reactive

[27:39] uh molecules that then do tremendous

[27:42] damage to the human genome. uh and acute

[27:45] radiation sickness can result in death

[27:48] in about a week or two.

[27:49] >> And I understand the autopsy itself was

[27:51] actually delayed because of fears of of

[27:53] radioactive levels still in his body.

[27:56] What will an autopsy be able to

[27:58] determine uh when they do get around to

[28:00] doing it?

[28:00] >> Well, I think that uh they will be able

[28:02] to localize the source of radiation and

[28:05] thereby tell whether it was inhaled

[28:08] because that is one route of entry or it

[28:11] was ingested or embibed. It it may have

[28:14] been soluble in an acidic uh medium and

[28:18] uh you know drank drunk uh so it it was

[28:21] it it could have been ingested and I

[28:24] think the autopsy will be able to

[28:25] pinpoint that.

[28:26] >> All right, Larry Kolinsky, DNA and

[28:28] forensic expert. Thanks so much for

[28:30] joining us. We appreciate it.

[28:31] >> And want to let our viewers know we're

[28:33] going to take a quick break. Al Sharpton

[28:34] has taken to the podium there in Queens.

[28:36] Of course, speaking about the tragic

[28:38] death of 23-year-old Shawn Bell [music]

[28:40] by police. We're going to continue to

[28:42] keep you updated on this, let you know

[28:44] what they're saying, and talk about the

[28:45] criminal aspect of this as well. Should

[28:47] police be criminally prosecuted for this

[28:49] death? We'll be right back.

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[31:33] our eye on Queens, New York. There you

[31:35] see the Reverend Al Sharpton addressing

[31:37] the media with the fiance of Shawn Bell,

[31:40] the 23 year old man who was killed under

[31:42] police fire uh this past Saturday

[31:44] morning. Her name Nicole Paulrey. We're

[31:46] expecting to hear from her shortly.

[31:48] We're going to bring that to you when it

[31:49] happens. But as we've been listening to

[31:51] the reverend, he has been saying it

[31:52] doesn't matter uh to him the race of the

[31:56] uh victim here, Shawn Bell, whether he

[31:57] was white, black, Hispanic, a crime has

[31:59] been committed against him by police.

[32:01] And certainly there are a lot of

[32:02] questions that still surround exactly

[32:04] what went down on Saturday around 4:00

[32:07] a.m. just outside a Queens Jamaica

[32:09] Queens strip club. We're going to bring

[32:10] back in MSNBC's chief legal analyst uh

[32:13] Susan Finland to talk a little bit more

[32:15] about this case. And certainly there is

[32:17] a lot of emotion and a lot of political

[32:20] pressure on the investigators now

[32:22] looking into what happened here, what's

[32:24] going on behind the scenes in the DA's

[32:26] office right now.

[32:26] >> The DA's got to get this right. I mean,

[32:28] there's just no two ways about it. Like

[32:30] every case, justice has to be served.

[32:32] It's a search for the truth. So,

[32:34] politics can't enter into this. The

[32:36] emotion, the hysteria, the tragic nature

[32:38] of this. I mean, you've got to

[32:39] understand that law enforcement's got to

[32:41] be heartbroken about this as well. No

[32:42] officer wants to take a life, whether

[32:44] it's what we call a good shoot or a bad

[32:46] shoot. It's a bad situation for law

[32:48] enforcement as well. But the DA's office

[32:50] has to do an investigation that makes

[32:51] everybody happy in the sense that

[32:54] they're sure that the facts were reached

[32:56] truly, fairly, and appropriately. I

[32:58] don't know that everyone's going to be

[32:59] happy unless, you know, there's a a

[33:00] lynching of these officers. And that's

[33:02] not what's called for. We don't have

[33:04] vigilante justice. We don't have

[33:06] emotional justice. We have fair justice

[33:08] that's based on a search for the truth.

[33:10] So, they they've got to get this right.

[33:12] They've got to get witnesses who were

[33:13] here there that night. They've got to

[33:15] get the police officers to talk to them.

[33:16] They've got to get the forensics to

[33:17] match the stories. And then they've got

[33:19] to piece together whether this was

[33:21] reasonable force, excessive force, or a

[33:24] completely unjustifiable shooting. in

[33:26] which case criminal indictments could in

[33:28] fact follow. Amy.

[33:29] >> All right, Susan Finland. Of course,

[33:30] we'll continue to check back in with you

[33:31] as we continue to monitor the press

[33:33] conference there going on right now in

[33:35] Queens, New York. We'll bring you the

[33:36] very latest again when we hear from the

[33:37] fiance Nicole Paltree. We'll bring that

[33:39] to you live. In the meantime though, a

[33:41] new poll is shedding some interesting

[33:43] light on how Hispanic voters feel about

[33:45] the Republican party. The Zagby Hispanic

[33:47] PR Wire poll shows that only 23% of

[33:50] Hispanic voters feel the Republican

[33:52] party understands them compared to 56%

[33:55] who say Democrats understand them. Now,

[33:58] this comes just two years after 40% of

[34:00] Hispanic voters voted for President

[34:02] Bush's reelection. So, why this big

[34:04] shift? Here to talk about it, Democratic

[34:07] strategist Jamal Simmons and Republican

[34:09] strategist Joe Watkins. Thanks for being

[34:10] with us.

[34:11] >> Thanks so much, Amy.

[34:12] >> Jamal, is this all about immigration

[34:14] reform? And certainly we saw some

[34:16] hardline stands there by Republican

[34:17] members of the House. Is is this

[34:19] basically what we can attribute the

[34:21] shift to?

[34:22] >> Absolutely. I think uh every time the

[34:24] Republican party makes strides with

[34:26] minority communities, be it with

[34:28] African-Americans or with Hispanics,

[34:30] with African-Americans, then you had

[34:31] Katrina happen and it set them back

[34:33] another generation. Uh this happened

[34:35] before with the Hispanic community out

[34:37] in California with uh I think it was

[34:38] Prop 87 where they, you know, came out

[34:41] with English only and all these other

[34:43] rules about immigration and uh and then

[34:45] the Hispanic community moved away from

[34:47] the Republicans. Recently, they started

[34:49] to make some progress, but again, keep

[34:50] in mind when we talk about immigration,

[34:52] we're really talking about Hispanic

[34:54] immigration. Nobody's complaining about

[34:56] my friend's girlfriend who just came

[34:57] over from Poland. I mean, nobody's

[34:59] complaining about the Canadians that are

[35:01] coming in from Windsor. People are upset

[35:03] about uh Mexicans and Guatemalans and

[35:05] people who are coming over who they

[35:06] think are taking their jobs and they're

[35:08] reacting to that. The Republican party

[35:09] made a strategic decision the last

[35:11] election to play politics with

[35:12] immigration and now it's biting them in

[35:14] the butt.

[35:14] >> So Joe, that said, what can Republicans

[35:16] do to regain the support of Latinos? Is

[35:18] it possible within the next two years?

[35:20] >> Well, I think clearly it's possible to

[35:22] regain the support. We have to remember

[35:23] two things, of course. Uh, one is that,

[35:26] uh, when polls are taken immediately

[35:27] after the election, after an election

[35:29] where one party wins decisively, that

[35:31] almost everybody polls says that they

[35:33] were with the party that won. That's

[35:34] typical of Americans everywhere. And

[35:36] this has happened in the past as well.

[35:38] If you ask people right after an

[35:39] election who they voted for, they almost

[35:40] always say, "I voted for the winner."

[35:42] And so, of course, you have a poll that

[35:44] is skewed toward Democrats. The other

[35:46] thing is that 60% of the people who

[35:48] respond in the poll said that the Iraq

[35:50] war was the thing that was most

[35:52] important to them. That means that uh

[35:54] they were um responding to this poll in

[35:56] part because and and in favor of

[35:58] Democrats because of their uh their

[36:00] anger perhaps at our involvement in

[36:02] Iraq, which is difficult and and and

[36:04] tough, but uh but certainly justified.

[36:06] So uh that's a large part of the poll. I

[36:09] think that Republicans have just as good

[36:10] a chance in 2004 as they had in 2004 of

[36:14] getting uh Hispanics to vote Republican

[36:16] in 2008. Uh Jamal, though, when

[36:18] immigration obviously becomes an issue

[36:20] and and it seems like it's headed that

[36:22] way with Democrats more in favor of a

[36:24] guest worker program, certainly they

[36:26] have to tread carefully in terms of of

[36:27] what they put on the table and what they

[36:29] vote into law if it gets that far. 49%

[36:32] of Latino voters feel that Democrats are

[36:34] more equipped to handle the issue. How

[36:36] much pressure on the Democrats to do

[36:38] what the Hispanic community wants?

[36:41] >> Well, Democrats have a lot of pressure

[36:43] right now. That's what that's the burden

[36:44] of leadership and I think all

[36:46] communities are looking at Democrats to

[36:48] actually get in the game and take care

[36:50] of some of the things they want them to

[36:51] get done in the United States Congress.

[36:53] So, Democrats do have the uh do have an

[36:56] issue with Hispanic voters to prove that

[36:57] we have the that we deserve the

[36:59] opportunity to lead.

[37:00] >> Joe, let me ask you this. How do

[37:02] Republicans handle the immigration issue

[37:03] now that we've certainly seen many of

[37:05] the Hispanic voters voice their opinion

[37:07] at the polls? Well, I think that members

[37:09] of of the House and the Senate have to

[37:10] work together with Democrats to come up

[37:12] with legislation that works for

[37:14] everybody. Of course, you can't reward

[37:16] bad behavior. And I don't think even uh

[37:18] people who've come here illegally want

[37:19] to see that happen. But you also have to

[37:21] figure out what the punitive measures

[37:23] are uh and punitive measures that work

[37:24] as well as prevention. Prevention from

[37:26] keeping that is a way of keeping people

[37:28] from getting into the country illegally.

[37:29] I think that Congress is going to work

[37:31] hard to get that done. Democrats have to

[37:33] if they want to have a shot at being

[37:34] re-elected in 2008. All right, Joe

[37:36] Watkins, Jamal Simmons. We appreciate

[37:38] it. Thank you.

[37:39] >> Thanks so much, Amy.

[37:40] >> All right, rapper Snoop Dogg is out on a

[37:42] $60,000 bail this morning after his

[37:45] third arrest in his many months. Snoop,

[37:47] whose real name is Calvin Gosh, I don't

[37:49] even know how I find how to say this.

[37:50] [laughter]

[37:51] Brous Brous Jr. Yeah. All right. Just

[37:54] know Snoop Dog, right? He was arrested

[37:56] after a performance on the Tonight Show

[37:58] last night. He was taken in for illegal

[38:00] possession of a handgun, marijuana, and

[38:03] cocaine. Police say they seized the gun

[38:05] and some drugs after a search of the

[38:07] rapper's car and home. I'm going to

[38:08] stick with Snoop Dogg from now on. Let's

[38:10] check on the weather. Weather Plus.com

[38:12] meteorologist Jeff Reeri has been

[38:14] tracking the best weather in America.

[38:16] Jeff?

[38:17] >> Yes. And we find a lot of really nice

[38:18] weather in the east coast today. 60s and

[38:21] 70s from Florida right on into the

[38:23] northeast. Temperatures way out of

[38:25] whack. Not in the southeast so much, but

[38:26] in the northeast. Find some beautiful

[38:28] weather today in Orlando, 80°, 83 in

[38:30] Miami, 77 in Jacksonville. And we'll

[38:32] take you right up here to the northeast.

[38:33] 10 to 20° above where we should be this

[38:36] time of year. 57 in New York, 53 in

[38:39] Boston, 62 in Washington. So, while it

[38:41] is mild, it's probably pretty nice for a

[38:43] lot of you because by the time we get

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[38:46] hit with all that snow. So, best weather

[38:48] we're going to look ahead towards

[38:49] tonight. Rockefeller Center 56. Talk

[38:51] about mild. Our daytime high should be

[38:52] in the upper 40s. Anne Curry, Al Roker

[38:55] hosting that tonight beginning at 8:00.

[38:57] It's an 88 foot Norway Spruce. They're

[38:59] going to dawn that. There it is with

[39:02] 30,000 lights, Amy. And that star is 9

[39:06] ft deep. So I think from one side to the

[39:09] other. It's all crystal.

[39:10] >> Swarovski crystal. Correct.

[39:12] >> Yes. I didn't say that cuz I always mess

[39:13] that one up. [laughter]

[39:14] >> Well, I got that one down. All right.

[39:16] Thank you, Jeff.

[39:16] >> Yes.

[39:17] >> Well, take a look at this. A rescue on

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[39:21] Sarah Cox was kayaking on that river

[39:24] Sunday when the current sent her into

[39:26] the rocks for 90 minutes. her husband

[39:29] and she tried to make several passes to

[39:32] her husband tried to make several passes

[39:33] to free her, but it took one daring and

[39:35] experienced kayaker to actually make

[39:37] that rescue. Sarah hasn't decided when

[39:40] she'll get back into her kayak. Well,

[39:43] there is no doubt al-Qaeda's responsible

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[43:09] If you think the partisan fighting is

[43:11] bad in this country, don't move to

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[43:17] tried to speak out against the

[43:18] inauguration of conservative

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[43:27] know it, the situation turned into an

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[43:31] shut down the Congress. Well, despite

[43:34] the violence, liberals are vowing to

[43:35] protest Calderon own swearing in which

[43:37] is scheduled for this Friday.

[43:41] >> And Amy, it's Chris in the control.

[43:42] Meanwhile, we're watching this video

[43:43] coming into us. This is a live picture

[43:44] from Thran. This is uh Iraq's president

[43:47] Talibani meeting with Iran's president

[43:48] Makmoud Ahmedad in Thran. They've been

[43:51] meeting there for a couple days now.

[43:52] They're holding a news conference. Comes

[43:53] just a few hours from uh when our

[43:55] President Bush is going to be on the

[43:56] other side of Iraq in Jordan meeting

[43:58] with Iraq's prime minister. Hope we have

[44:00] that all straight.

[44:01] >> All right. While American and Iraqi

[44:03] leaders search for ways to end the civil

[44:04] war there, the Bush administration is

[44:06] putting new focus on the role played by

[44:08] al-Qaeda, President Bush continues to

[44:10] blame that terror group for Iraq

[44:12] sectarian violence.

[44:15] >> There's a lot of sectarian violence

[44:17] taking place fumented in my opinion

[44:20] because of these attacks by uh by

[44:24] al-Qaeda

[44:26] causing people to seek reprisal.

[44:30] But military sources tell NBC News

[44:32] al-Qaeda in Iraq makes up only 2 to 3%

[44:34] of enemy forces, a total of about 1,300

[44:37] foreign fighters. Evan Coleman is an

[44:39] MSNBC terrorism analyst. He joins us

[44:41] now. And Evan, the numbers aside, the

[44:43] point the president was trying to make

[44:44] from what I imagine is that those

[44:45] attacks when they happen by al-Qaeda are

[44:47] spectacular in nature and therefore uh

[44:51] tend to invoke a very strong reaction

[44:53] among the different uh sects within

[44:55] Iraq.

[44:56] >> Yeah, that's exactly it. Al-Qaeda

[44:58] engages in provocative actions that on

[45:01] their own they cause a high death toll.

[45:03] But what's more important is that they

[45:04] provoke other actions. They provoke

[45:06] number one a response from Shiite

[45:08] militias. And then the response to that

[45:10] response you see other Sunni groups like

[45:12] the Islamic army in Iraq. groups that

[45:15] don't necessarily engage in suicide

[45:17] bombing, but are willing to engage in

[45:19] confrontations with Shiite militias,

[45:21] with the police force, with the army in

[45:23] retribution for what they see as crimes

[45:25] committed against Sunnis. But this is

[45:28] not a new strategy for al-Qaeda.

[45:29] Al-Qaeda has been involved in this now

[45:31] for over a year, for over two years.

[45:33] What they saw happening was that they

[45:35] saw Sunnis beginning to come together

[45:37] with Shiites. And they realized that

[45:38] they needed to find an issue that would

[45:40] divide these two groups of people and

[45:42] would create an anchor that would allow

[45:44] al-Qaeda to stay in Iraq indefinitely.

[45:46] And they found that anchor. They have

[45:48] successfully started a civil war inside

[45:50] of Iraq. It began almost a year ago with

[45:53] the bombing of the Ascaria mosque where

[45:55] where it was just a mosque. It wasn't

[45:57] human casualties, but a Shiite mosque.

[45:59] The effect of that is incalculable and

[46:02] it has resulted in what we see today.

[46:03] >> And certainly that was a symbolic move

[46:06] on their part. In fact, we've got a

[46:07] letter and you may remember it that

[46:08] Zarqawi wrote nearly three years ago. Uh

[46:11] he was then head of al-Qaeda in Iraq and

[46:13] he said, quote, "If we succeed in

[46:15] dragging Shiites into the arena of

[46:16] sectarian war, it will become possible

[46:19] to awaken the inattent of Sunnis are

[46:21] fighting against the Shiites is the way

[46:23] to drag the nation into the battle." Uh

[46:26] that is the goal of al-Qaeda. has simply

[46:27] stated they wanted this country in a

[46:29] civil war. Uh to what end does that

[46:31] bring them success?

[46:32] >> Well, it does bring them success

[46:34] unfortunately. You know, look, it's all

[46:36] about constituencies. Here in this

[46:37] country, we have political parties that

[46:39] play to certain constituencies by

[46:41] playing up certain issues. These are hot

[46:43] button issues. In Iraq, the hot button

[46:45] issue is Shiites versus Sunnis. If you

[46:48] want to generate good feeling among

[46:50] Sunnis, local Sunnis, indigenous Sunnis,

[46:52] people from Iraq, you start talking

[46:55] about the crimes being committed against

[46:56] by the Shiites against the Sunnis. Vice

[46:59] versa, if you're Iran or if you're

[47:01] another Shiite party, Shiite state

[47:03] rather, and you want to generate

[47:04] sympathy among Iraqi Shiites, you talk

[47:07] about the terrible crimes being

[47:08] committed by Sunnis, by al-Qaeda against

[47:11] the Shiites. But let us not be mistaken

[47:13] here. The suicide bombings that we see

[47:15] inside Iraq are almost exclusively the

[47:18] domain of al-Qaeda. When you see a

[47:20] suicide car bomb go off, that is the

[47:22] work of al-Qaeda. Virtually no Iraqi

[47:25] group, Shiite, Sunni, or otherwise,

[47:27] outside of al-Qaeda carries out suicide

[47:29] bombings.

[47:30] >> All right, NBC terrorism analyst Evan

[47:32] Coleman. Thanks. Very interesting.

[47:33] >> Thank you.

[47:34] >> Well, an ex spy poisoned Russia under

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[50:40] >> Well, it sounds like something out of a

[50:42] Tam Tom Clancy novel, but the mysterious

[50:44] poisoning of a former KGB agent actually

[50:46] happened in real life. And now the

[50:48] draget is growing. More people are being

[50:50] tested for possible exposure to pelonium

[50:52] 210, the substance used to kill expy

[50:55] Alexander Lit Vanenko. NBC's Donna Fzen

[50:58] is in London now to tell us where this

[51:00] investigation stands. So, Donna, what is

[51:02] the latest?

[51:03] >> Well, Amy, several locations in central

[51:05] London still being tested for radiation,

[51:07] including a second hotel in an office

[51:09] building. And this morning, it was

[51:10] announced another 40 people are going to

[51:12] be tested for exposure to radiation. And

[51:14] these are the staff from the two

[51:16] hospitals where Alexander Litmano was

[51:18] treated. Police are saying very little.

[51:21] They're still calling it a suspicious

[51:22] death, not a murder, but Litenko's

[51:24] friends believe he was tailed from the

[51:26] moment he left his house on November the

[51:28] 1st. That was the day he first fell ill.

[51:30] They say they think it was a

[51:32] sophisticated operation that required a

[51:34] number of people to pull it off. The

[51:36] police are tracking Lit Vienko's last

[51:38] movements. They're studying CCTV camera

[51:40] footage along the route that he took

[51:42] that day to see if anyone was shadowing

[51:44] him. Investigators are hoping that

[51:46] through a painstaking process of

[51:48] reconstructing everything that he did

[51:50] that day, they'll maybe be able to

[51:51] pinpoint where and when he was actually

[51:53] poisoned. So, they'll be looking at who

[51:55] else was in the sushi restaurant that

[51:57] day at the same time he was, who else

[51:59] was in the Millennium Hotel where he met

[52:01] two contacts, anywhere else along the

[52:03] route, wherever he was that day. So, a

[52:05] very exhaustive investigation underway.

[52:08] The autopsy, incidentally, still hasn't

[52:10] been conducted, but we're now told it

[52:12] will probably take place Friday using

[52:13] strict precautions to make sure the

[52:15] pathologists aren't at risk of being

[52:17] poisoned as well. And also a key witness

[52:20] in the case, Mario Scaramelly. He's the

[52:22] man Lit Vanenko met at that sushi bar on

[52:24] November the 1st. He has since returned

[52:26] from Italy to London to help the police.

[52:29] And he's also been tested for radiation

[52:30] exposure and been given the allclear.

[52:32] But he is under police protection

[52:34] because when he met Lit Vignenko, he

[52:36] showed him an email that contained a hit

[52:38] list with both of their names on it. So

[52:42] still a big mystery and a lot of

[52:43] investigating to do. Amy.

[52:45] >> All right, Donna Fzen, we appreciate it.

[52:46] Thanks so much. Well, right now, Air

[52:48] Force One is on its way to Aman, Jordan

[52:50] for President Bush's pivotal meeting

[52:52] with the Iraqi Prime Minister. NBC's

[52:54] Middle East bureau chief is in Aman, and

[52:56] earlier I asked him about the agenda for

[52:58] this summit.

[53:01] the uh prime minister of Iraq, Nuriel

[53:03] Maliki, he wants the Iraqi security

[53:06] forces to have more sovereignty. He

[53:08] wants to have more control over his own

[53:11] forces. But it comes at a time when at

[53:13] least one of President Bush's top

[53:15] advisers is questioning his intentions,

[53:17] saying that his government, whether it's

[53:19] through ignorance or that it has it

[53:21] doesn't have the capability to prevent

[53:23] it, is pursuing a Shiite agenda. that

[53:26] the Shiite forces, particularly Mktad Al

[53:28] Sutter, who is allied to this current

[53:30] Iraqi government, are trying to empower

[53:33] themselves at the expense of the Sunnis

[53:35] in Iraq.

[53:36] >> In fact, Richard, I want to talk about

[53:37] Steven Hadley's leaked memo. Uh we do

[53:39] have a verbatim there. It says, quote,

[53:41] "The reality on the streets of Baghdad

[53:43] suggests Maliki is either ignorant of

[53:45] what is going on, misrepresenting his

[53:47] intentions, or that his capabilities are

[53:49] not yet sufficient to turn his good

[53:51] intentions into actions." And Richard,

[53:53] you were the first reporter to interview

[53:56] Malake as prime minister. Is that how

[53:59] he's viewed?

[54:02] >> He is certainly not ignorant to what is

[54:04] going on. He meets very frequently with

[54:06] not only Sunni leaders, but particularly

[54:08] his inner circle of Shiite advisers.

[54:11] He's very close with the Solder

[54:12] movement. He's also very close to Iran.

[54:15] I know several of Prime Minister Nuri

[54:17] al-Maliki's closest adviserss. they are

[54:19] often talking to Iran, often talking to

[54:22] leaders in the in the Solder movement.

[54:24] So, he he's certainly not unaware of of

[54:27] the the situation on the ground in that

[54:30] militias control their own

[54:31] neighborhoods, that Sunnis in western

[54:34] Iraq have effectively declared

[54:35] independence and are creating a hardline

[54:38] Islamic state, that the Kurds have uh

[54:40] also effectively broken away. He lives

[54:42] there. Even though he lives in somewhat

[54:44] isolation in the uh US protected green

[54:47] zone, he is certainly aware of the

[54:49] deteriorating situation in Iraq. The

[54:51] question is does he have the will or

[54:54] does he just lack does he not have the

[54:56] uh the the power to implement the will

[54:58] as as that report from Hadley was

[55:00] suggesting. That is what people in Iraq

[55:03] are questioning and what the US is

[55:04] trying to figure out right now. If you

[55:06] were to say that he lacks the authority,

[55:09] then the obvious solution would be to

[55:11] give him more power. But much more

[55:12] troubling would be that if he is if he

[55:15] understands what he is doing and that he

[55:17] is preparing for a civil war and

[55:19] preparing for his side, the Shiites, to

[55:21] ultimately win it.

[55:22] >> All right, Richard Angel, we appreciate

[55:24] the latest. Thanks. And as the GOP tries

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[55:37] Congressman of Colorado will join Tucker

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[58:41] In just about two hours, President Bush

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