Why Prototypes Beat PRDs: How to Ship 10x Faster with AI | Jeremy Epling (CPO Vanta)

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[0:00] we used to write all these like 20 page

[0:01] prds

[0:03] that nobody wants to read. Like why do

[0:05] you think prototypes are better and and

[0:07] like how do we normalize this stuff?

[0:08] >> One of the first things we actually did

[0:10] was build a template. Well, I sent this

[0:12] out to the PM team with like a little

[0:13] loom explaining on them how to like fork

[0:15] from this and this allowed teams to kind

[0:17] of go out and like really start to

[0:19] experiment and build out more pages.

[0:21] >> Jeremy, chief product officer at Vanta

[0:24] and former VP of product at GitHub and

[0:26] Microsoft. I don't think the PRD

[0:28] completely dies, but like seeing is

[0:31] believing. I want to like close my eyes

[0:33] and like open them and like try to like

[0:34] become the customer, you know, and I'm

[0:36] like, "Okay, if I was seeing this for

[0:38] the first time, is it working?" Do you

[0:41] have any advice for like the big tech PM

[0:43] like worry about their job or like, you

[0:45] know, paying their mortgage?

[0:46] >> Yeah, I think it's um

[0:51] All right, welcome everyone. And my

[0:52] guest today is Jeremy, chief product

[0:54] officer at Vanta and former VP of

[0:57] product at GitHub and Microsoft. Really

[0:59] excited to talk to Jeremy today about

[1:01] normalizing prototypes over PRDS. You

[1:04] know, his favorite AI workflows to uh

[1:06] for PM work and the top skills that PMs

[1:09] need to learn uh in this new era. Uh

[1:12] we'll also cover how the team ran AI

[1:14] evaluations for Vanta's new AI agent.

[1:17] So, welcome Jeremy.

[1:19] >> Yeah, thanks for having me. Excited for

[1:20] the conversation. All right. So, why

[1:22] don't we start with like a hot topic,

[1:24] right? So, you know, we we both

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