PBS NewsHour - 2009-03-06

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[0:10] Good evening. I'm Jim Lara. On the

[0:12] NewsHour this Friday, the lead story,

[0:14] yet another rise in unemployment. The

[0:17] economic and other news of the day,

[0:20] including the congressional stalemate on

[0:22] a federal spending bill. A Paul Salmon

[0:25] report on hard times and job losses in

[0:28] Elkcart, Indiana. The analysis of Mark

[0:31] Shields and David Brooks. And another

[0:34] story from our Arab Arts Festival

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[1:53] The national unemployment rate climbed

[1:56] half a percent today. Another sign of a

[1:58] deepening recession. The Labor

[2:01] Department reported it jumped to 8.1%

[2:04] for February, the highest jobless rate

[2:06] since 1983.

[2:08] Ray Suarez has our lead story report.

[2:12] It's the largest percentage of Americans

[2:14] out of work in 25 years, the biggest

[2:18] slump in employment in the postw World

[2:20] War II period. And it was the first

[2:22] thing President Obama addressed during a

[2:25] visit to Columbus, Ohio today. Just this

[2:27] morning, we learned that we lost another

[2:29] 651,000

[2:32] jobs throughout the country in the month

[2:34] of February alone, which brings the

[2:37] total number of jobs lost in this

[2:39] recession to an astounding 4.4 million.

[2:45] 4.4 million jobs.

[2:48] I don't need to tell the people of this

[2:50] state what statistics like this mean.

[2:53] Uh, it's typical.

[2:54] >> Back in Washington, government officials

[2:56] said they didn't expect the jobs picture

[2:58] to improve anytime soon. Keith Hall is

[3:01] the commissioner of the Bureau of Labor

[3:03] Statistics. A year ago, the unemployment

[3:06] rate stood at 4.8%.

[3:08] >> We've never had four straight months of

[3:10] job loss in excess of 600,000.

[3:13] >> He testified before the Joint Economic

[3:15] Committee.

[3:16] >> We're already very close to historical

[3:18] levels in in job losses. Um, and as as

[3:22] long as we as long as we don't get

[3:24] economic growth, we're we're we're

[3:25] probably not going to get job loss, uh,

[3:27] job gains, sorry.

[3:28] >> Shortly after the jobs numbers were

[3:30] released, the president left the White

[3:32] House for a quick three-hour trip to

[3:34] Ohio. Once there, he conceded the job

[3:36] losses had been heavy, but the main

[3:39] point of the trip was to emphasize the

[3:41] three and a half million jobs he says

[3:43] will be saved or created by the Economic

[3:46] Recovery and Reinvestment Act. Mr. Obama

[3:49] credited the stimulus bill and the

[3:51] millions of dollars sent to Columbus

[3:53] with saving the jobs of these 25 new

[3:56] police officers. Before the bill passed,

[3:59] they were all laid off.

[4:00] >> I don't need to tell this graduating

[4:02] class what it's like to know that your

[4:05] job might be next. Because up until a

[4:08] few weeks ago, that is precisely the

[4:10] future that this class faced. A future

[4:12] that millions of Americans still face

[4:15] right now.

[4:17] Well, that is not a future I accept for

[4:19] the United States of America. For those

[4:21] who still doubt the wisdom of our

[4:25] recovery plan, I ask them to talk to the

[4:28] teachers who are still able to teach our

[4:32] children because we passed this plan. I

[4:34] ask them to come to Ohio and meet the 25

[4:37] men and women who will soon be

[4:40] protecting the streets of Columbus

[4:42] because we passed this plan.

[4:46] Nearly 2 million jobs have been lost in

[4:49] the last three months alone. This week's

[4:52] grim economic news added up to big price

[4:55] swings on Wall Street today. In the end,

[4:57] the Dow Jones Industrial Average gained

[5:00] 32 points to close at nearly 6627.

[5:03] The Nasdaq fell five points to close at

[5:06] 1293. And for the week, the Dow and

[5:09] Nasdaq both lost more than 6%. It was

[5:12] the fourth consecutive week of declines.

[5:15] You've already got your your

[5:16] unemployment for this week.

[5:18] >> For those out there looking for work,

[5:20] the prospects are slim.

[5:22] >> Arlington, Virginia's unemployment rate

[5:24] is about half the national average. But

[5:26] at this employment center, job seekers

[5:28] find themselves in the same frustrating

[5:31] position as 12 a.5 million unemployed or

[5:34] undermployed people across the country.

[5:36] Devon Brown has been looking for a job

[5:38] for 5 months.

[5:40] >> I'm just not getting any responses back

[5:42] or anything, you know. Damn. Yeah.

[5:45] I really need a job. I need a job real

[5:48] bad. Got a got mouths to feed. Got

[5:50] children out there

[5:52] >> that need me. Kira Wooten spent 30 years

[5:56] working as a legal secretary and has

[5:58] interviewed for 11 jobs since January

[6:01] and none have panned out.

[6:02] >> Right now I'm at the point where I take

[6:04] a job at borders or anything

[6:07] and just then keep looking within

[6:10] uh my career.

[6:12] I just really need a job and um that's

[6:15] what it's coming down to.

[6:17] >> Attendance is also up at job fairs

[6:19] across the country like this one in a

[6:21] New York City hotel yesterday. The lines

[6:24] snaked around multiple levels. Nearly

[6:27] 4,000 applicants for 1,000 jobs. Three

[6:31] states, California, Michigan, and Rhode

[6:33] Island have jumped into unemployment

[6:35] rates above 10%. Two others, Oregon and

[6:39] Nevada, are inching closer.

[6:42] and to Judy Woodruff.

[6:44] >> To help us understand more about these

[6:46] job losses and some of the larger trends

[6:48] in this unemployment picture, we are

[6:50] joined again by David Leenhard, an

[6:52] economics columnist for the New York

[6:54] Times. David, good to have you with us

[6:56] again.

[6:56] >> Nice to be back.

[6:57] >> First of all, how do how do these job

[6:59] losses compare with jobs picture

[7:01] previous?

[7:03] >> They're clearly much worse than any of

[7:04] the job losses we had in the last two

[7:06] recessions, which was were in 2001 and

[7:08] in 1990, 1991. They're now on about the

[7:11] same scale of the kind of job loss we

[7:13] saw in the early 80s recession, the the

[7:15] 1981 1982 recession.

[7:17] >> And you were just telling me, David,

[7:19] that if you if you add in the people who

[7:21] are working part-time but would like to

[7:23] have full-time job, and if you add in

[7:25] those people who've given up looking,

[7:27] Yeah. the job picture looks much worse.

[7:29] >> That's right. The official unemployment

[7:30] rate is 8.1%. But the official

[7:32] unemployment rate has a number of

[7:34] technical reasons why it tends to

[7:35] understate actual unemployment. So, if

[7:38] we were to throw in people who are no

[7:39] longer actively looking for a job, but

[7:41] would very much like one if they could

[7:43] find one, the unemployment rate probably

[7:45] goes to something like 10%. And then if

[7:47] we were to include people who are

[7:48] part-time workers, but would like to be

[7:50] working full-time. And I think it's fair

[7:51] to have a debate about whether they

[7:52] should be considered unemployed or

[7:54] employed, but they're not working as

[7:55] much as they would like, that takes the

[7:57] rate to 14.8% according to a labor

[8:00] department measure. And that didn't

[8:01] exist back in the early 80s, that

[8:03] measure. But I think if it had based on

[8:05] some other things, it probably would

[8:06] have been about 17% in 1982. So this is

[8:09] not yet as bad as the early 80s

[8:11] recession, but it's quickly moving in

[8:13] that direction.

[8:14] >> So give us a sense of how these job

[8:16] losses break down, which sectors of the

[8:19] economy, which types of jobs are being

[8:21] lost.

[8:21] >> Yeah, the worst job losses are in

[8:23] construction, which just isn't

[8:24] surprising at all given the housing bust

[8:26] that we're having. We also see really

[8:27] bad job losses in manufacturing, auto

[8:29] companies, and other things. Um, but we

[8:32] see losses in in hotels, we see losses

[8:34] in retail. I mean, we're really now

[8:35] seeing losses across the board. The

[8:37] worst losses are hitting men. They are

[8:40] hitting less educated workers and they

[8:42] are hitting people in both manufacturing

[8:44] centers and in places that had a housing

[8:46] bubble like California, um, like Nevada,

[8:50] like Florida.

[8:51] >> So, geographically, there is some

[8:53] pattern here.

[8:54] >> There is some pattern. Um, there's a

[8:56] band in the middle of the country, the

[8:57] Dakotas, Nebraska, that's doing a little

[8:59] bit better, but I don't want to

[9:00] overstate that because those places are

[9:02] also beginning to suffer as well. Some

[9:04] of their relative health was a result of

[9:06] high oil and commodity prices and that's

[9:08] gone away. This is very much a

[9:11] nationwide recession. This isn't

[9:12] something like the early 80s where we

[9:14] have a rust belt that is doing much much

[9:16] worse than in other places. Really, it's

[9:18] a nationwide recession. You just

[9:20] mentioned that men are being hit by this

[9:23] uh unemployment uh spreading

[9:25] unemployment worse than women. Why is

[9:26] that?

[9:27] >> It it seems to have mostly to do with a

[9:29] shift in industries. So that if we think

[9:31] about things like construction and

[9:33] manufacturing that have been hit

[9:34] hardest, those are pretty heavily male

[9:36] industries. And if we then think about

[9:38] things that are expanding, I mean

[9:39] healthcare has continued to expand

[9:41] through throughout this recession. Um

[9:44] those are much more female than the

[9:45] things like construction and

[9:46] manufacturing. And so we are in the

[9:48] midst of this long-term shift that's

[9:50] even affecting cultural things. I

[9:52] actually think it's become more

[9:53] acceptable for men not to work than it

[9:55] used to be. I think in the past men who

[9:57] lost their jobs in the 1950s and60s

[9:59] would have taken another job almost no

[10:00] matter what. And now I think often their

[10:03] wives are working and so they will stay

[10:04] out of the labor force for longer trying

[10:06] to find a job that might pay as well as

[10:08] their last one. And and and that affects

[10:10] things as as well as the as the economic

[10:13] trends. And you also mentioned that

[10:14] there's a difference uh in what we're

[10:16] seeing what you're seeing in white

[10:18] collar jobs uh among workers who are

[10:20] more educated versus blue collar jobs,

[10:22] workers who might not have a college

[10:24] degree.

[10:25] >> This is really tricky because it's it's

[10:26] these two opposing thoughts that it's

[10:28] important to keep both of them in mind.

[10:30] So this is a nationwide recession. It is

[10:33] hitting white collar workers. It is

[10:34] hitting college graduates, but it's

[10:36] hitting blue collar workers and people

[10:37] who didn't graduate from college harder

[10:39] than it's hitting white collar workers.

[10:41] And so while it's true that a college

[10:42] degree doesn't make you immune from this

[10:44] recession, it's also true that the

[10:47] return, the relative return on education

[10:49] has never been higher. So everyone is

[10:52] suffering. And yet the gap between the

[10:54] pay of college graduates and everyone

[10:55] else recently hit a record high. And so

[10:58] one of the absolute worst things that

[11:00] could come out of this is if somehow

[11:01] young people took the message, well the

[11:03] economy is so bad it's not even worth it

[11:05] to stay in school and get a degree. The

[11:07] fact is compared to the alternative the

[11:09] payoff for an education has never been

[11:11] higher than it is right now.

[11:13] >> So they may be discouraged but they need

[11:14] to step back and look at the look at the

[11:17] bigger picture here.

[11:17] >> Yeah. And there is precedence for this

[11:19] which is in the depression there was a

[11:20] huge surge of people going to school.

[11:22] >> Any bright spots at all? Looking across

[11:24] these the all these numbers

[11:26] >> you really have to squint pretty hard to

[11:28] find a bright spot. But I'll mention

[11:30] two. One um job loss although it was

[11:33] worse in the last few months than we

[11:34] previously know it is not accelerating.

[11:36] So, the economy has basically lost

[11:37] 650,000 jobs essentially each of the

[11:40] last three months. So, we can hope that

[11:42] that this is the worst that it gets. We

[11:44] don't know, but we can hope. The second

[11:46] thing is people who still have jobs,

[11:47] amazingly enough, continue to get small

[11:50] raises, 2% a year. And because inflation

[11:53] is roughly zero now, that means the

[11:55] buying power of people who keep their

[11:57] jobs is actually going up, which given

[11:59] what's happening to their retirement

[12:01] accounts and given how many people are

[12:03] losing jobs is one very small but worth

[12:06] mentioning piece of good news.

[12:08] >> So if you can hang on to your job, you

[12:11] have some chance, you're saying

[12:13] >> for the time being. And again, for now,

[12:15] and again, I fully recognize that those

[12:17] same people who are getting 2% raises

[12:18] after inflation also have seen the value

[12:20] of their 401k drop in half. So, I don't

[12:22] want to overstate the importance of

[12:24] that.

[12:24] >> Different ways of measuring David

[12:26] Leanhart, the New York Times. Thank you

[12:27] again.

[12:28] >> Thank you.

[12:28] >> Appreciate it. Even with all this bad

[12:29] news

[12:31] today, Congress rushed through a bill to

[12:33] keep the government running for another

[12:35] five days. That was after a $410 billion

[12:39] budget bill for this fiscal year failed

[12:41] to pass the Senate last night.

[12:44] Republicans criticized it for being

[12:46] overloaded with expensive earmarks for

[12:48] special projects. The debate was pushed

[12:51] into next week. There were signs money

[12:54] manager Bernard Maidolf may be close to

[12:56] reaching a plea deal. He's been accused

[12:59] of being involved in a $50 billion fraud

[13:02] case. Federal prosecutors in New York

[13:04] filed court papers showing Maid Off

[13:07] agreed to wave an indictment. That's a

[13:09] necessary step before a defendant enters

[13:12] a guilty plea. Maid off's arraignment is

[13:15] scheduled for next Thursday. The US

[13:18] Supreme Court dismissed a challenge from

[13:20] an enemy combatant over his indefinite

[13:23] imprisonment. Ali Amari is a suspected

[13:26] al-Qaeda sleeper agent. Last week,

[13:29] President Obama ordered him transferred

[13:31] from military to civilian custody to

[13:34] face new federal conspiracy and terror

[13:37] charges. He had been held without charge

[13:40] in a South Carolina Navy brig for more

[13:42] than 5 years. Almari will stand trial in

[13:46] a civilian court in Illinois. US

[13:49] Secretary of State Clinton pledged a

[13:51] fresh start to relations with Russia.

[13:53] She met with her Russian counterpart,

[13:56] Foreign Minister Sergey Lavough in

[13:58] Geneva, Switzerland for their first

[14:00] formal talks. Clinton predicted the two

[14:03] countries could reach agreement on a new

[14:06] strategic arms reduction treaty by the

[14:08] end of the year, but she also

[14:10] acknowledged rebuilding the relationship

[14:13] will take work.

[14:15] I am uh uh pleased uh by the opportunity

[14:20] that we had to begin a discussion on

[14:24] resetting US-Russian relations, a

[14:27] process that we know will take time. We

[14:30] had frank exchanges about areas where we

[14:32] still disagree. Uh we need more trust uh

[14:37] predictability and progress that only

[14:39] comes from working together. President

[14:42] Obama is scheduled to meet with Russian

[14:44] President Medvadef at an international

[14:47] economic summit next month. The wife of

[14:50] Zimbabwe's Prime Minister was killed in

[14:52] a car crash. Party officials confirmed

[14:55] the death of Susan Changraai. They said

[14:58] Prime Minister Morgan Shangarai was

[15:00] injured and remains hospitalized. The

[15:03] crash happened south of the capital when

[15:05] a truck veered out of its lane and

[15:07] slammed into the prime minister's car.

[15:10] Shangarai reached a power sharing deal

[15:12] with President Robert Mugabi in

[15:15] February. Commercial airlines rrooted

[15:18] their flights away from North Korean

[15:20] airspace today. North Korean state media

[15:23] had reported the government cannot

[15:25] guarantee the safety of civilian

[15:28] flights. South Korea's two major

[15:30] airlines detourred flights through

[15:32] Japanese airspace at a cost of $2,500

[15:36] per flight. North Korea has announced

[15:38] plans for an upcoming satellite launch,

[15:41] but that was widely interpreted as a

[15:44] missile test.

[15:52] Now, a report on the job losses in

[15:55] Elcart, Indiana. It's part of NewsHour

[15:58] economics correspondent Paul Salman's

[16:00] series on making sense of financial

[16:03] news. Paul was in Elcart earlier this

[16:06] week.

[16:08] >> It is good to be back in Elcart.

[16:13] >> President Obama may be one of the few at

[16:15] the moment who can make this statement.

[16:18] Last month's trip to Elcart, Indiana was

[16:20] to sell job creation by way of his

[16:22] stimulus package against a backdrop of

[16:25] despair. When we say that this area has

[16:28] lost jobs faster than anywhere else in

[16:32] the United States of an America with an

[16:35] unemployment rate of over 15% when it

[16:38] was 4.7% just last year. We're not just

[16:42] talking numbers. We're talking about Ed.

[16:44] >> Ed Newfeld, who voted for John McCain,

[16:47] was laid off in the fall.

[16:49] >> Two of my daughters and two of my

[16:50] son-in-laws are also unemployed.

[16:54] I know that Elkcart County has the

[16:56] highest unemployment rate in the

[16:58] country, but I know we don't want to be

[16:59] there. We want to work.

[17:03] >> Newfeld's daughters Brandy and Lisa and

[17:05] their mates home with the kids. Daughter

[17:08] Lori and her husband Josh got Josh's mom

[17:11] Lucinda and dad Don have all lost their

[17:15] jobs.

[17:15] >> So, I've been out of work for a little

[17:17] over a year

[17:18] >> or are woefully undermployed. When it

[17:21] gets bad, I'm maybe down to five hours a

[17:24] week. So, I got lucky and got a

[17:25] part-time job working with Lewis Bakery

[17:28] stocking bread. That's a good thing. At

[17:30] least people still need to buy bread.

[17:31] So, I went through a stretch where um

[17:34] from Thanksgiving to February, I didn't

[17:36] work at all. And uh and looks now that

[17:39] we'll probably be getting more more time

[17:42] off in the future.

[17:44] >> Lucinda Got had a job when we arranged

[17:46] this interview, but by the time we set

[17:48] up our camera, she'd lost it. And

[17:50] Thursday was my last day.

[17:52] >> On a scale of 1 to 10, where 10 is

[17:54] terrified and one is everything's okay,

[17:57] where are you?

[18:02] >> Probably terrified. I don't know.

[18:04] >> And perhaps laughing to keep from

[18:06] crying. Her husband says his faith keeps

[18:09] him going, though he lost his job in

[18:11] April.

[18:12] >> Looking?

[18:13] >> Yeah.

[18:14] >> Finding anything?

[18:15] >> No, there's nothing around here. There's

[18:17] no jobs.

[18:18] >> They got a dollar store. Right. right

[18:19] down the road here, pay 650 an hour.

[18:23] They're not even hiring. So, there's

[18:24] nothing out there at all.

[18:26] >> These folks all used to make

[18:28] recreational vehicles, the main industry

[18:30] in Elcart, which still boasts the RVMH

[18:33] Hall of Fame, where the upbeat tour

[18:36] guide urges you to follow the Black

[18:38] Rubber Road.

[18:39] >> This unit on our left is the oldest

[18:42] existing RV. And that's a Model T Ford.

[18:45] >> It is a 1913 Model T Ford. The industry

[18:48] took off in the 30s.

[18:50] >> This is a 1931 Chevrolet house car that

[18:55] was built by Paramont Studios to give to

[18:59] May West the movie star as part of the

[19:02] enticement to get her to leave the

[19:05] vaudeville stage and make movies for

[19:07] Paramont.

[19:09] >> But from the get-go through the Great

[19:10] Depression, the RV was a luxury good.

[19:13] Peel me a grape.

[19:15] >> Modern models include what the

[19:16] wisecracking Ms. West might have called

[19:18] a movie trailer or perhaps a mobile

[19:21] mcmanion. But with every income group

[19:24] drooping in the current swoon, who's

[19:26] buying? The industry that made Elcart

[19:28] famous is making it infamous right now.

[19:31] >> 32 years at Monaco Corporation and uh

[19:35] they had like a big meeting about what

[19:36] they were going to do and we thought it

[19:38] was just going to be a big layoff.

[19:41] And when my foreman came out with tears

[19:43] in his eyes, I knew it was more than

[19:45] that. We were all shocked when they

[19:47] closed down cuz we were one of the

[19:49] bigger corporations. I thought we would

[19:52] be one of the last to be around, but uh

[19:56] we weren't.

[19:56] >> Monday, hours before this interview,

[19:59] Monaco said it may shut down not just

[20:00] the local plant, but the whole company.

[20:03] From mobile home makers to downwardly

[20:06] mobile home owners with crashing home

[20:08] prices in a crashing economy. Lisa

[20:11] Newfeld heard about one new listing

[20:13] recently.

[20:13] >> It's got like four bedrooms upstairs and

[20:17] I think eight total rooms, a basement,

[20:20] um a pool and a hot tub. Uh a ba four

[20:24] bathrooms for 59,000.

[20:26] >> I said we can all go in together and buy

[20:28] that and all together. I don't even want

[20:31] to entertain a thought at this point,

[20:34] >> but if you had to, you had to.

[20:35] >> If I had to, I it'd be better than being

[20:38] homeless, right?

[20:39] >> Yeah.

[20:39] >> Everybody heard how President Obama came

[20:41] here to Elkcart. He came here because

[20:43] this county has the highest unemployment

[20:45] rate in the nation, and that's largely

[20:47] driven by what's been going on in the RV

[20:49] industry.

[20:50] >> Economist Lane David from nearby South

[20:52] Bend and an RV consumer.

[20:55] >> I have a trailer very similar to this

[20:57] one. In fact, my wife would like to get

[20:58] what's known as a motor home, which is

[21:00] actually a motorized unit.

[21:01] >> Are you seriously considering it?

[21:03] >> With the way the economy is right now,

[21:06] I'm not too excited about buying

[21:08] anything that I can't pay cash for.

[21:10] >> But then you're part of the problem,

[21:11] aren't you? Because I mean, if you and

[21:13] others were buying vehicles like this,

[21:15] then Elcart workers would still be on

[21:17] the line.

[21:18] >> Yes. And I think you've hit on one of

[21:20] the key features of the economic

[21:22] situation today, which is people's

[21:24] expectations. And people's expectations

[21:28] are very, very important to the

[21:30] functioning of the economy. It could get

[21:32] worse just because people believe that

[21:34] it's going to get worse.

[21:35] >> So David won't buy a new RV because he's

[21:38] afraid things will get worse. And so

[21:40] things get worse because people like him

[21:42] are afraid to buy and because banks are

[21:45] afraid to lend, says the CEO of this RV

[21:48] firm.

[21:49] >> The banks will simply not lend the

[21:51] money. Even if you put up 20%. Uh even

[21:55] more. We've had consumers that have very

[21:57] high FICO scores, 700. We've even heard

[22:00] of people that have an 800 FICO score

[22:02] and still not being able to get that uh

[22:04] that purchase financed.

[22:06] >> Mark Horita has no love for the bankers,

[22:09] but says President Obama has to shore up

[22:11] the financial system to spur new

[22:13] lending. The mayor of Elcart says the

[22:16] president has to deliver the stimulus

[22:17] money to spur new spending.

[22:20] >> And what's your pitch? I mean, besides

[22:21] Elcart, highest unemployment rate in the

[22:23] country. So, please help us out.

[22:25] >> Well, that is the pitch. Jobs, jobs,

[22:27] jobs. If you go out here on the street

[22:28] and talk to the people, nine out of 10

[22:30] of them are going to tell you the most

[22:31] important thing in Elcart, Indiana, is

[22:33] to create jobs.

[22:34] >> Visions creating with a $17 million

[22:36] renovation of this theater, which began

[22:38] as a VA house. Though it's not clear May

[22:41] West ever played Elcart. It's hobbling

[22:44] along at the moment, but Mayor Moore has

[22:46] big plans. We'll put on local

[22:48] productions, bring in productions from

[22:50] around the world, cultural exchange,

[22:52] relaxation, entertainment.

[22:54] >> The theater is one of 17 projects Mayor

[22:56] Moore hopes to stimulate. All over the

[22:59] country, local officials are dusting off

[23:01] dormant projects like this one, or this

[23:04] $25 million upgrade of the Elkcart

[23:07] sewage treatment system, already

[23:09] mandated by federal law and good for

[23:11] another 400 or so jobs.

[23:14] an overpass for a railroad crossing that

[23:16] handles 120 trains a day. The mayor is

[23:20] scrambling to get it ready for a

[23:21] stimulus check.

[23:22] >> This project is not quite shovel ready,

[23:24] but we think we were closer than what we

[23:26] first believed.

[23:27] >> Best case, going to bid in 4 months,

[23:30] construction next year. But Elcart needs

[23:33] jobs now. With one in six people out of

[23:36] work, unemployment is the fastest

[23:38] growing industry in town. While more and

[23:41] more former factories are idled,

[23:44] >> we need someone to come in and figure

[23:46] out what the a way to open up that plant

[23:50] again and get 14,500 people back to

[23:52] work.

[23:53] >> So to any of you, what should they do

[23:55] with that factory?

[23:57] >> I don't know. Maybe we can make

[23:58] something to do with solar or

[24:00] >> It doesn't matter what they put in.

[24:02] People just want jobs and the building's

[24:04] here. The people are here. So all you

[24:06] private investors out there, come to the

[24:09] Elcart area. We're willing to work.

[24:12] >> Well, but the private investors aren't

[24:13] coming, are they?

[24:14] >> No. The government's going to have to

[24:16] step step up to the plate and it has to

[24:18] hit here locally.

[24:20] >> But not everyone's a believer in

[24:21] government.

[24:22] >> Government spending is a source of

[24:25] contention among economists. But if

[24:27] there are all these idle resources in

[24:29] the RV industry, the people, the

[24:31] factories, doesn't it make sense for the

[24:33] government to start spending money to

[24:35] put all those resources to good use?

[24:37] >> Uh we want to use our resources in the

[24:39] most efficient manner, which means that

[24:41] we want to produce goods that the market

[24:44] desires. And if the market desires

[24:47] certain goods, why aren't they being

[24:48] produced already?

[24:50] Back at the pizza parlor, this is just

[24:52] what the new felts and gods, lifelong

[24:54] Republicans, believed. Do they still

[24:57] >> I think I'm slowly

[25:01] sinking into the from the middle class

[25:03] to the poor class. So, it's m it's

[25:05] making me think a little bit different

[25:07] about people that don't have that much.

[25:09] I mean, the hardworking American

[25:14] family that's that's trying to make it

[25:17] and through no fault of their own,

[25:18] they're not making it.

[25:20] >> And that's changing your attitude

[25:22] towards economics in general.

[25:24] >> Yes. Yes, I think it is.

[25:26] >> Meanwhile, the unemployment rate in the

[25:28] city of Elcart, Indiana, population

[25:31] 53,000,

[25:33] has now risen to 18%.

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[30:12] and to the analysis of Shields and

[30:14] Brooks syndicated columnist Mark

[30:16] Shields, New York Times columnist David

[30:18] Brooks. Mark, how well is the president

[30:20] doing reassuring the public about this

[30:23] relentless decline in jobs? uh about as

[30:27] well as anybody could, Jim, as the as

[30:30] the floodwaters rise. I mean, he as soon

[30:33] as the election was over, as soon as he

[30:35] was inaugurated, it continued every day

[30:38] that he said things were bad and they

[30:40] were going to get worse. Um I mean, he

[30:42] was been consistent in his message. Uh I

[30:44] think a couple of things. One, I I don't

[30:46] think uh people believed uh that things

[30:50] were really that bad and and probably

[30:52] doubtful that he did as well. And I

[30:54] think it becomes doubly difficult when

[30:56] you get sort of the icons the the

[30:59] cornerstones of what have been American

[31:01] corporate leadership uh companies like

[31:03] General Motors and General Electric

[31:05] where so many Americans 55 million

[31:07] American households now have stock

[31:10] portfolios which is double what it was

[31:12] 20 years ago and that's because of 401ks

[31:16] and IAS and which have taken the place

[31:19] of retirement programs. So, uh, he's the

[31:23] president's confronted with a a whole

[31:24] set of realities. I think quite

[31:26] honestly, to be fair, he did, uh,

[31:29] misstep and and he lost his shore

[31:32] footedness when talking about the

[31:34] market, which of course everybody

[31:35] watches because it goes up and down.

[31:37] Nobody understands it, but the numbers

[31:39] are there. We do it. It's there in the

[31:40] morning. It's very,

[31:41] >> we report it every night.

[31:42] >> Exactly. Um, and and he said, "Look,

[31:45] it's like a tracking pole in a

[31:46] campaign." And that that was a that was

[31:49] a misstep because the president has to

[31:51] be commander-in-chief, but he also has

[31:52] to be empathizer and chief. And I think

[31:54] that was making light of what is

[31:56] understandable anxiety on people's

[31:57] parts.

[31:58] >> Do you agree that was a mistake?

[31:59] >> Yeah, because the president should only

[32:01] talk about what he knows about and the

[32:02] president doesn't really know when the

[32:03] market's going to bottom out. I mean, he

[32:05] has no clue. We don't know what moves

[32:06] the market. Uh so I I think that was a

[32:09] mistake. But I think the one thing I

[32:11] would say is that my sense as we all are

[32:12] our perceptions based on our

[32:14] conversations is that in the past week

[32:16] >> there was already a lot of economic

[32:18] anxiety but I think we fail another

[32:19] level.

[32:20] >> I I I just hear up here. Yeah. I just

[32:23] hear more gee is there going to be a

[32:25] depression? I just hear a a greater

[32:27] sense that gee maybe this is something

[32:29] really serious. And so the one thing

[32:32] that I think the president has to react

[32:34] and saying listen I care about

[32:35] education. I care about healthcare. I

[32:37] care about energy, but because of the

[32:40] sudden increase in panic, there's a lot

[32:41] more focus on the right now. I mean, a

[32:44] health care plan or an education plan

[32:45] that will yield results in 2015, that

[32:47] would be great, but right now,

[32:50] >> and to me, there is still a black hole

[32:52] in the administration policy concerning

[32:55] the banking response and the financial

[32:57] world. And if I were him, I'd focus a

[33:00] lot more attention on that to give

[33:01] people some sense of confidence the

[33:03] financial sector is going to be

[33:04] basically taken care of and that we've

[33:06] got a plan at least

[33:08] >> and that will in

[33:09] >> well that would but that would be the

[33:10] first order of business and I'm afraid

[33:12] he's he's spreading his you know he's

[33:14] got the healthcare summit this week.

[33:15] Next week there's a little education

[33:16] going on. If I were him, I'd just focus

[33:19] on this because if if he goes down in

[33:21] history badly, it will be because he

[33:24] didn't focus like a laser, as Bill

[33:25] Clinton would say, on the immediate

[33:27] crisis at hand.

[33:28] >> Do you agree he's trying to do too much,

[33:29] Mark?

[33:29] >> Uh, I don't. I mean, I think I think

[33:31] Jim, every president, uh, whoever that

[33:34] president is, when presented with a

[33:36] crisis, uh, seizes upon the crisis to

[33:40] advance his values, his goals, his

[33:42] agenda. Uh I mean many of the same

[33:44] people are critical of the president

[33:46] doing too much right now or overreaching

[33:48] or I mean there's nothing he's

[33:49] advocating right now that he did not

[33:51] advocate during the campaign. I mean for

[33:53] for better than a year and a half

[33:54] anybody listened to his speeches he

[33:56] didn't pull some program out of left

[33:58] field like healthcare reform education

[34:00] always that's always been the ritual the

[34:02] mantra and I I think I guess what I'd

[34:05] add to that is I mean we had a crisis in

[34:07] this country in 2001 after 9/11 and and

[34:11] President George W. Bush used that

[34:13] crisis to advance his own agenda. Uh

[34:16] which it turned out to be a

[34:18] consolidation, vast expansion of

[34:20] executive power, uh a uh a war against a

[34:23] country that had never attacked us and

[34:25] in no way threatened us. Uh I mean so

[34:27] there there is there is a a natural

[34:30] inclination and impulse. I think the

[34:32] president has made the case that it's an

[34:34] organic hole. The healthc care is part

[34:36] of the economy and it's an important

[34:38] part of the economy. Uh and I I think we

[34:40] saw that yesterday at the at the White

[34:42] House conference that there's a

[34:43] recognition that the United States is

[34:45] less competitive. Uh our economy is less

[34:48] vital and and viable because of the

[34:50] health care costs.

[34:51] >> But do you think Yeah. Go ahead.

[34:52] >> Well, first Barack Obama attacked George

[34:54] Bush for taking his eye off the ball

[34:56] because of going to war in Iraq after

[34:58] 911. That was the exact argument he

[35:00] made. And I think there's some of the

[35:01] he's doing making some of the same

[35:03] mistakes. Now that doesn't mean I don't

[35:04] sympathize with healthcare and

[35:05] education, all that other stuff. I

[35:07] absolutely do. But as long as you got

[35:09] your this black hole in the financial

[35:11] sector, none of that stuff is going to

[35:12] matter. The second thing to be said is

[35:15] that if we don't take care of the

[35:17] immediate crisis, there just will be no

[35:19] money to pay for any of this stuff. In

[35:21] the president's budget, he expects

[35:22] deficits of 500 billion, which I think

[35:24] is wildly optimistic. In the healthcare,

[35:27] say he's, to his credit, raised in

[35:30] theory at least $640 billion as a down

[35:32] payment on healthcare reform. Well,

[35:34] where's he going to get the other 600

[35:35] billion? where is he going to get it if

[35:37] the economy continues to decline? And so

[35:40] to me, he's just trying to do too much

[35:42] and try to spend. First, there's the

[35:44] issue of the overload of the staff,

[35:46] which is tremendous, but second, the

[35:48] overload of the resources. And I think

[35:51] realistically, even with his budget,

[35:53] which has some very good things in it,

[35:55] we're looking at at at deficits of a

[35:57] trillion dollars, as far as the I can

[35:58] see, a trillion dollars a year. And

[36:00] we've talked about this before, but

[36:01] David Mark, uh, is there also this kind

[36:04] of feeling that, well, there's the

[36:06] financial plan, there's the stimulus

[36:08] plan, there's a this plan, then this

[36:09] plan, but still there was another 600

[36:11] and some thousand jobs lost and and

[36:15] nothing seems to be working. It it isn't

[36:18] so much that there's a deep hole is that

[36:20] the everybody has a plan, but none of

[36:22] them have begun to work yet.

[36:23] >> Well, I would give him a little break on

[36:24] that because the plans are not going to

[36:26] take into effect for a while. Even the

[36:27] stimulus plan I would I wish the

[36:29] stimulus had been more front-loaded.

[36:31] Sure.

[36:31] >> But even that will take months. So they

[36:34] will be in this for the year. But I I

[36:36] just think well a number of things.

[36:38] First of all, he uh they are just it's

[36:40] Larry Summers and Tim Gitener. It's

[36:43] those two guys trying to do a million

[36:44] things all at once without any staff.

[36:46] Tim Gner just lost the woman who was

[36:48] going to be his deputy. They got no

[36:50] staff. And executing this stuff is going

[36:52] to be phenomenally hard. There was some

[36:53] talk of hiring another 100,000 or

[36:55] 300,000 new federal workers. Well,

[36:57] hiring that alone is a is a headache,

[36:59] let alone getting those people in place

[37:01] to oversee something you're going to try

[37:02] to enact in in a you know, in a year.

[37:06] >> So, what's happening? What's going on,

[37:07] Mark?

[37:07] >> Well, I mean, Jim, I mean, first of all,

[37:10] the man has been president of the United

[37:11] States for less than seven weeks. Uh, in

[37:14] in 1981, Ronald Reagan came in having

[37:16] carried 44 states. He got his economic

[37:18] plan passed in July. Bill Clinton in

[37:21] 1993 got his in August. George W. Bush

[37:24] in 2001 with nothing but really a tax

[37:27] cut which and quite appealing got it

[37:30] passed in the end of May. Uh so I mean

[37:32] by the by the middle of February he's

[37:34] passed an economic stimulus that we we

[37:37] understood when it was passed that it

[37:38] wasn't going to be a week or two weeks.

[37:40] I mean I don't know this is like get rid

[37:42] of belly fat in 15 minutes or something.

[37:44] You know the hot fudge Sunday diet. It's

[37:47] it doesn't work that way. But wasn't

[37:48] there the expectation, right or wrong,

[37:51] Mark, that hey, we're he's he's got all

[37:54] these things going to work and

[37:55] everybody's going to have their

[37:56] confidence lifted and

[37:58] >> his his consistent message has been

[38:01] things are bad and they're going to be

[38:02] worse and we're going through hard

[38:03] times. Now I

[38:05] >> No, I'm not saying he didn't say that.

[38:06] >> No, he has said that. But I mean, if the

[38:08] expectation were there, I mean, there is

[38:10] something about instant gratification

[38:12] and that is is a is a remains a problem.

[38:15] Meanwhile, he did have a healthc care

[38:18] summit, David, to to good purpose.

[38:21] >> Well, I'm not sure how much the summits

[38:23] I'm not sure how much these summits are

[38:24] achieving. And maybe that's too much to

[38:26] expect in one day. I guess I I think two

[38:30] things. First, I think in the Senate,

[38:32] there is a growing consensus around a

[38:34] series of things which Max Balkas seems

[38:36] to be at the center of,

[38:38] >> chairman of the Senate. And so I I would

[38:39] say first it's much more likely that

[38:41] we'll get healthcare reform this year

[38:43] than we did when Bill Clinton tried to

[38:45] do it. I'd say somewhere if I had to

[38:47] guess

[38:47] >> because or in spite of the financial

[38:50] crisis.

[38:50] >> Well, in spite of it, I I think it's

[38:52] because you have a group of people

[38:54] cohering around more of a consensus than

[38:56] you had back then.

[38:58] >> What do you think?

[38:58] >> I I think I think that

[39:00] >> we heard what we said on our program

[39:01] last night,

[39:03] >> excuse me, there were three people who

[39:04] were at the summit who said there's more

[39:06] cohesion of believe that hey we got

[39:09] there may not be on what to do but there

[39:11] there certainly is on do something

[39:13] >> first of all big difference from 1993

[39:16] >> it's on C-SPAN okay all the meetings in

[39:19] 1993 were closed uh everybody was

[39:22] invited I mean the insurance companies

[39:24] the doctors the congress uh they were

[39:26] not part of the 1993 experience so I

[39:29] think in that sense there was an

[39:30] inclusiveness and I think there's no

[39:32] question there's a recognition I mean in

[39:34] the self-interest is a is a compelling

[39:36] motive and American American corporate

[39:39] interests know that health care has

[39:41] become an enormous burden for them to

[39:43] compete internationally and that they're

[39:46] now back when Bill Gratison who was the

[39:49] former congressman from Cincinnati and

[39:51] the head of the American health

[39:53] insurance association in 1993 came up

[39:56] with the Harry and Louise ads says you

[39:58] know I really feel that this thing is

[40:00] moving in the right direction. I I I

[40:02] think I think there is I mean I think

[40:04] there's a a sense of movement and I

[40:05] think they've done well in in shephering

[40:07] it. Last night, what they said, as you

[40:09] know, was that the the the consensus is

[40:12] that it's the cost that is the problem.

[40:15] It isn't the delivery system. We can

[40:17] deal with all of that, but if we don't

[40:19] get the cost down, forget reforming

[40:22] healthcare. Jim, we spend more on

[40:24] healthare, twice as much on healthare as

[40:27] the gross national product of India. I

[40:30] mean, you want to think, I mean, India

[40:31] is a pretty much of an economic success

[40:33] story. And you want to know the human

[40:34] cost?

[40:36] 120 Americans every hour declare

[40:39] personal bankruptcy because because of

[40:41] healthare costs.

[40:42] >> But there is bring down the cost. That's

[40:44] how you do it. There's still an

[40:46] argument. And I think the White House

[40:48] their right instincts are this

[40:49] comparative effectiveness that in some

[40:51] parts of the country they're paying half

[40:53] of what they pay elsewhere and using

[40:56] getting a sort of Federal Reserve Board

[40:57] of Healthcare or something like that uh

[40:59] to really study what works and what

[41:01] doesn't. There's no consensus around

[41:03] that, so we shouldn't get ahead of

[41:04] ourselves. But I think there's a little

[41:06] more agreement than there was 15

[41:08] whatever years ago.

[41:09] >> Speaking of Go ahead.

[41:10] >> Just just one one quick thing that kind

[41:12] of has to over this week in the Wall

[41:16] Street Journal NBC poll, Barack Obama is

[41:18] at 68% favorable. He's more popular in

[41:21] his policies. He's risen in popularity.

[41:23] There is Americans feel better about

[41:26] direction of the country than they did.

[41:28] I mean it's it's a rather remarkable

[41:30] achievement that he's been able to boy

[41:31] the spirits of the country uh and in a

[41:34] sense of even limited optimism at a time

[41:38] of such empirically just overwhelmingly

[41:40] bad news. So I I just say that because

[41:43] Ronald Reagan I I compare him to Ronald

[41:46] Reagan in the sense that he came to

[41:48] office just as Ronald Reagan did with a

[41:51] big victory at a time when people wanted

[41:53] government to do more just as Reagan

[41:54] came when people wanted government to do

[41:56] less. We have 25.3 seconds left and I'd

[41:59] be derelct in my duties if I didn't ask

[42:01] the two of you to say in the struggle

[42:04] between Rush Limbbo and the Democrats

[42:07] over who speaks for the Republican

[42:09] party, who's winning, David,

[42:11] >> tactically the Democrats are winning. No

[42:14] one the Republicans either have to diss

[42:16] Rush Libo or or sign on to him. Both of

[42:19] them are bad choices from their point of

[42:20] view.

[42:21] David is right, but the White House

[42:23] should not be involved in this in any

[42:26] way. I mean, this is a time we've just

[42:28] gone through the litany of horrors what

[42:30] Americans are facing. The pain of 8.1%

[42:33] of Americans without a job to go through

[42:35] Monday morning and there you get the

[42:37] White House talking about Rush Limbaugh

[42:40] and the chief of staff of the White

[42:41] House.

[42:41] >> I completely agree with that. I

[42:42] underlined that.

[42:43] >> We have 8.1 seconds and we just used it.

[42:46] Thank you both very much.

[42:47] >> Thank you.

[42:54] And finally tonight, the last of our

[42:56] stories about the Arabesque Festival of

[42:59] Arts at the Washington DC's Kennedy

[43:02] Center. Jeffrey Brown reports from Egypt

[43:04] on a musician's story.

[43:10] On a recent Friday night at the Cairo

[43:12] Jazz Club, pianist, composer, and

[43:15] producer Fati Salma held forth with an

[43:18] electric version of his blurring of

[43:20] musical boundaries east and west,

[43:28] mixing the Arabic music he grew up on

[43:30] with the western jazz heard one day on

[43:33] the radio at home in Cairo. I used to

[43:36] listen to uh Voice of America and uh

[43:40] used to listen to this kind of music I

[43:42] was really in love with. I didn't even

[43:44] know then that it was called jazz.

[43:47] >> As a young adult, he pursued that love,

[43:50] including a period of study in New York

[43:52] with several jazz masters.

[43:58] Back home after a successful stint as a

[44:00] record producer in the pop music world,

[44:03] he devoted himself to creating a whole

[44:05] new sound.

[44:08] In 1989, he formed a band called

[44:11] Shakiette, meaning from the east. I

[44:14] wanted to make uh my own version of my

[44:19] own roots Arabic music because also I

[44:23] always believed and I still believe that

[44:26] uh Arabic music has a lot to do uh or

[44:29] lots of similarity with jazz because

[44:32] jazz is all about improvisation finally.

[44:35] same in Arabic music.

[44:37] >> That a place like the jazz club and a

[44:40] musician like Fati Salma exist and

[44:42] thrive at all might be a bit of a

[44:44] revelation to many Americans.

[44:48] A vibrant, crowded city of some 18

[44:50] million. Cairo has long been a major

[44:53] capital of popular culture within the

[44:55] Arab world. Film, television, and music.

[44:59] to make a video clip, you know, or to be

[45:03] famous, they come to Cairo.

[45:04] >> To be famous, you come to Cairo.

[45:06] >> Yeah. Yeah. Normally,

[45:09] >> in recent years, there's been a growing

[45:10] influence of conservative Islam in

[45:13] Egyptian life. We were struck by the

[45:15] number of veiled women on the streets.

[45:17] Salma agrees that's happened, but

[45:20] characteristically perhaps, he sees a

[45:22] mixed picture. a a very uh normal thing

[45:26] you would see every day here. A girl

[45:28] wearing a veil but wearing very tight

[45:31] jeans. This is exactly how people think

[45:34] like there uh they have this duality

[45:37] somehow like in between otherwise

[45:40] wouldn't be a club like this like where

[45:42] we're sitting. It's not many clubs like

[45:44] this also I should say. The day after

[45:48] performing at the club, Salma invited us

[45:51] to his home and studio in a suburb of

[45:53] Cairo.

[45:54] >> It starts with a melody like this.

[46:00] >> I asked for a demonstration of just how

[46:02] he puts together Arabic music and jazz.

[46:05] >> But what I did, I I put chords, so I put

[46:09] harmony. So I put like F minor 9th

[46:20] Definitely. We don't have this in

[46:21] Arabic.

[46:22] >> You don't have that.

[46:22] >> No, we don't have that. Sounds like that

[46:24] sounds like a jazz chord.

[46:26] >> Yeah, exactly. And this

[46:29] >> this also we don't have. You know,

[46:35] >> this is known even in the states and

[46:37] everywhere. This is a Herby Hanok

[46:40] voicing.

[46:42] It's very known, you know. That's Herby

[46:44] Hancock over in Arabic.

[46:47] >> So that's what I'm saying. That's what

[46:49] I'm trying to achieve somehow.

[46:56] >> In recent years, Salma has also been

[46:58] working to connect Arabic music with

[47:00] traditions from other parts of the

[47:02] globe. At this recent concert in Cairo,

[47:05] his band played with a Cuban salsa

[47:07] group.

[47:11] In 2005, Smma won a Grammy award for his

[47:15] collaboration with world music superstar

[47:18] Yu Enur from Sagal. Their album called

[47:21] Egypt featured music from the Islamic

[47:24] Sufi tradition.

[47:30] >> We are mixes. All of us on earth.

[47:33] >> Mixers.

[47:34] >> Mixers. Yes. Anyways, I mean nobody can

[47:37] claim that you're pure this or pure

[47:40] that. Everybody was mixed some time and

[47:44] came from here went there. And uh for me

[47:48] I think uh my message is to show this

[47:56] we're all share music. So somehow

[48:00] sharing this kind of peace that music

[48:03] brings.

[48:05] >> Fati Salma and his band will perform in

[48:07] Washington at the Kennedy Center's

[48:09] Arabesque festival on March 8th.

[48:17] Much more on the series and the

[48:19] Arabesque festival is available online.

[48:22] Look for the ArtBeat page on our

[48:24] website.

[48:33] And again, the major developments of

[48:35] this day. The national unemployment rate

[48:37] climbed a half a percent to 8.1%.

[48:41] It's the highest jobless rate since

[48:42] 1983.

[48:44] And Secretary of State Clinton pledged a

[48:46] fresh start to relations with Russia at

[48:49] a meeting with the Russian foreign

[48:50] minister in Switzerland.

[48:59] And once again to our honor role of

[49:01] American service personnel killed in the

[49:04] Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts. We add

[49:07] them as their deaths are made official

[49:10] and photographs become available. Here

[49:12] in silence are 10 more.

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