World News Tonight (ABC) - 1999-06-05
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[0:00] News two
[0:03] >> on World News Tonight this Saturday.
[0:05] Putting words into action. NATO and
[0:08] Yugoslav military leaders begin
[0:10] hammering out the details of peace. In
[0:13] Illinois, did police and prosecutors
[0:15] railroad an innocent man. The jury
[0:17] speaks. But I miss you.
[0:20] >> The Velvet Fog silence. Singer Mel
[0:22] Tormet dead at 73.
[0:27] And for charismatic, a chance to make
[0:30] history lost
[0:37] from ABC.
[0:40] This is World News Tonight Saturday.
[0:44] Good evening. I'm Aaron Brown. There
[0:45] were more NATO air strikes today in
[0:47] Yugoslavia, but tonight peace may be one
[0:50] step closer. For the last two and a half
[0:52] months, the town of Blachce has been the
[0:54] main crossing point for refugees fleeing
[0:57] Kosovo into Macedonia. Today, it was the
[1:00] backdrop for what could become the
[1:02] beginning of the end of the conflict.
[1:04] So, we begin there and ABC's Sheila
[1:06] McVicker.
[1:07] >> For 3 hours this morning, the Serbs kept
[1:10] NATO waiting. Technical difficulties,
[1:12] said NATO officers. It was a frantic
[1:14] round of phone calls that finally
[1:16] persuaded the Yugoslav officers to
[1:17] attend. So for the first time since the
[1:20] bombing began, Yugoslav officers sat
[1:22] down with their NATO counterparts in a
[1:24] restaurant near the Macedonian border.
[1:27] These were not negotiations, said NATO.
[1:30] The Serbs would be expected to sign an
[1:32] agreement that would implement the
[1:33] withdrawal of their forces.
[1:35] >> It's not a place for haggling or
[1:38] equivocation.
[1:40] This is not the place to discuss the
[1:43] size or the positioning of the
[1:46] conference table. This is a place for
[1:49] decision and action.
[1:52] >> The six-page agreement specifies the
[1:54] three routes Yugoslav forces will use to
[1:57] withdraw from Kosovo. It lays out a
[1:59] 7-day timetable for that withdrawal. The
[2:02] Serbs must tell NATO where their forces
[2:04] have laid landmines, and bombing may
[2:07] continue until the withdrawal is
[2:09] verified. It took hours of discussions
[2:11] characterized by NATO officers as very
[2:14] professional as they went through the
[2:16] document literally line by line. Both
[2:19] sides clearly had questions. The
[2:22] American general monitoring the meeting
[2:23] for the US was on the phone. The Serb
[2:26] delegation caucused back of the
[2:27] restaurant.
[2:28] >> I mainly came out to tell you that this
[2:30] could be prepared for a long afternoon.
[2:31] >> What hinges on these talks is deployment
[2:34] of thousands of troops like these US
[2:36] Marines waiting now off the coast of
[2:38] Greece. They will be the first US troops
[2:41] into Kosovo. That could happen very
[2:43] soon. But the discussions today went on
[2:46] for more than 5 hours when suddenly the
[2:48] Yugoslav delegation emerged and drove
[2:51] off back across the border into
[2:53] Yugoslavia. They said they'd be back in
[2:55] an hour. That didn't happen.
[2:57] >> What we now have is a full understanding
[3:00] on both sides as to the content of the
[3:03] military technical agreement.
[3:05] >> Understanding may be, but so far not a
[3:08] signature. The Yugoslavs have told NATO
[3:10] they need more time to consult with
[3:12] Belgrade. Sheila McVicker, ABC News,
[3:15] Blachce, Macedonia.
[3:17] >> Who will command the peacekeeping troops
[3:19] remains one point of contention today.
[3:22] Very strong words from the Russian
[3:23] envoy, Victor Cheramir, who said Russia
[3:26] will never allow any troops it may send
[3:28] to Kosovo to be under NATO control. NATO
[3:32] is urging the Kosovo Liberation Army to
[3:34] abide by the terms of the peace plan.
[3:36] The KLA has been fighting for the
[3:38] independence of Kosovo and remains a
[3:40] wild card in the peace equation. Here's
[3:43] ABC's Richard Gizber.
[3:45] >> Like everybody else affected by this
[3:47] war, these KLA soldiers want to know
[3:50] what happens next, so they listen to
[3:52] shortwave radio for news and await new
[3:54] orders. It's already clear what NATO
[3:57] wants them to do. We hope that the
[3:58] Kosovo Liberation Army will renounce
[4:00] violence
[4:02] and act in conformity with the
[4:04] conditions that were laid down in the
[4:07] peace plan. The peace plan calls for the
[4:10] KLA to give up most of its weapons. But
[4:12] this KLA leader has already said the
[4:15] resistance will continue. When pressed
[4:17] to commit to KLA disarmament, he
[4:19] refused. The KLA from its leadership
[4:22] right down to the trenches doesn't trust
[4:24] the Serbs. I know that Serbs always lies
[4:28] and they don't tell no anytime the
[4:30] truth. What they say is that the war is
[4:33] finished. They they want that the war
[4:35] get finished, but we don't trust them.
[4:37] >> One of NATO's main concerns is that the
[4:39] KLA will attack withdrawing Serb forces
[4:42] and provoke a Serb response. Only a year
[4:45] ago, the KA was a ragtag force of 2,000
[4:48] men. Today, it remains lightly armed,
[4:51] but has swollen to 17,000 soldiers. All
[4:55] along they have fought for an
[4:56] independent Kosovo. The peace plan and
[4:58] the international community offer
[5:00] something less. Autonomy.
[5:02] >> After a while, if it does not appear
[5:04] that they are going to achieve their
[5:06] agenda, there's a distinct possibility
[5:09] that some parts of the KLA might even
[5:11] turn against the NATO force.
[5:13] >> Because even though to many the Serbs
[5:15] appear to have lost this war until
[5:17] Kosovo becomes independent, the KLA
[5:20] believes it has won nothing. Richard
[5:22] Gizbert, ABC News, London.
[5:25] >> Peace agreement calls for the return of
[5:27] the nearly 1 million ethnic Albanians
[5:29] who were driven out of Kosovo. But as
[5:32] NATO works out the details of their
[5:34] return, there are signs that yet another
[5:36] refugee crisis could be on the horizon.
[5:39] From Belgrade tonight, ABC's Bob
[5:40] Woodruff.
[5:42] If the Serb military leaves Kosovo and
[5:45] NATO troops move in, there is growing
[5:47] concern here in Belgrade that the
[5:49] approximately 100,000 Serb civilians
[5:51] still living in Kosovo will flee.
[5:54] >> Most of them
[5:55] >> most of them will leave.
[5:56] >> Yeah. Probably from more than 60% of
[6:00] them.
[6:01] >> Even at the Pentagon today, there were
[6:03] predictions of an exodus. Uh, I don't
[6:06] think that Kosovo is going to be a very
[6:09] happy place for Serbs um when NATO comes
[6:12] in.
[6:14] >> What Serbs in Kosovo fear most is the
[6:16] Kosovo Liberation Army. They also fear
[6:19] ethnic Albanian refugees who may be
[6:21] intent on revenge for what the Serbs did
[6:23] to them. The hardline leader of Serbia's
[6:26] radical party, Voyasav Cheshel, warned
[6:28] today that without Serb soldiers
[6:30] remaining in Kosovo, no Serb will ever
[6:33] stay. Historian Frederick Marovich
[6:35] agrees.
[6:36] >> Nobody will stay uh under Albanian under
[6:40] pure Albanian administration.
[6:42] >> Nobody.
[6:43] >> Nobody.
[6:44] >> Today in Serbia, there are more than
[6:46] half a million displaced Serbs from the
[6:48] wars in Bosnia and Croatia. Now, UN
[6:51] officials warned that air strikes have
[6:52] inflicted so much damage, Serbia may be
[6:55] unable to accept many more. If we move
[6:57] into the winter with Serbia itself still
[7:01] suffering from the damage caused by the
[7:03] bombing, still not having heating and
[7:05] water, they may move out of Serbia into
[7:07] Bosnia or elsewhere.
[7:09] >> Today, one of Serbia's leading
[7:10] politicians pleaded with the Serbs in
[7:12] Kosovo to stay where they are, promising
[7:14] that they will be safe and protected.
[7:16] Clearly, the last thing Serbia needs now
[7:18] is a new flood of refugees. Bob
[7:21] Woodruff, ABC News, Belgrade. Soldiers
[7:24] from the US Army First Infantry Division
[7:26] are expected to be among the first
[7:28] American troops to enter Kosovo. Today
[7:30] on the shores of Normandy, members of
[7:32] that division honored soldiers from
[7:34] another era, reenacting the landing on
[7:37] Omaha Beach and marking the 55th
[7:40] anniversary of D-Day. 10,000 World War
[7:42] II veterans were there to attend the
[7:44] ceremonies. Still ahead on World News
[7:46] Tonight this Saturday, the jury's
[7:47] verdict on whether prosecutors and
[7:49] police framed this man. Stopping the
[7:53] cycle of drug crime, a plug from the
[7:56] stars and charismatic's difficult day
[7:59] with history.
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[9:54] Here's ABC's Jim Williams.
[9:56] >> Hi guys.
[9:58] >> Following the verdict, there was relief
[9:59] among the veteran law enforcement
[10:01] officials.
[10:02] >> It shows that uh we're doing our job and
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[10:07] known as the DuPage 5 were accused of
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[10:49] detectives about a dream, but in a
[10:51] startling admission, Cruz said he was
[10:53] now being treated by a psychiatrist to
[10:56] stop lying. That testimony, legal
[10:58] experts say, was the turning point in
[11:00] this trial.
[11:01] >> Rolando Cruz's credibility was very
[11:03] important to the prosecution, and the
[11:06] defense very effectively uh destroyed
[11:08] his credibility in the course of the
[11:10] trial.
[11:10] >> Throughout the trial, the parents of the
[11:12] murdered child stood by the defendants,
[11:15] convinced they had properly handled the
[11:17] prosecution of Cruz.
[11:18] >> Tears of joy. This is a celebration
[11:20] tonight. Nevertheless, still unsolved
[11:23] after 16 years is the murder of a little
[11:26] girl. Jim Williams, ABC News, Chicago.
[11:30] >> The war on drugs has produced few
[11:32] victories, but drug courts would appear
[11:35] to be among them. They started in South
[11:37] Florida as a way to get drug users into
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[11:41] criminal courts free to deal harshly
[11:43] with drug dealers. Caught on around the
[11:46] country and now the federal courts may
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[11:51] >> This afternoon, at a meeting of drug
[11:53] court professionals, actor Martin Sheen
[11:56] praised the courts for helping his son
[11:58] who has publicly battled drug addiction.
[12:00] >> I can't think of anything more important
[12:02] to give our country than recovery.
[12:05] >> Charlie Sheen sent this recorded
[12:07] message.
[12:08] >> I look forward to the day when there is
[12:09] a drug court in every community. In just
[12:12] 10 years, the judges and prosecutors at
[12:14] this meeting have set up nearly 400
[12:17] state-run drug courts nationwide.
[12:20] Judicial alternatives for drugrelated
[12:22] offenders.
[12:23] >> So, you you really want to do something
[12:24] about changing your life?
[12:26] >> Yeah, I do.
[12:27] >> Defendants are given a choice. Clean up
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[12:31] >> Tom Gorum was an addict of 35 years who
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[12:36] >> Or I'd be a fool if I went back to jail
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[12:52] He says it could help ease jail
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[12:57] >> Locking people up for minimum mandatory
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[13:22] more than 140,000 Americans have passed
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[13:27] estimated 80% of them are still clean
[13:30] and sober. Steve, ABC News, Miami Beach.
[13:34] In Little Rock, Arkansas today, American
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[13:43] Investigators hope the wreckage will
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[13:47] wing panels that slow the airplane down
[13:50] on landing. The co-pilot says he
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[13:57] Coming up, troops pulling out, leaving a
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[16:18] For 17 years, Israel has occupied the
[16:20] southern part of Lebanon, an effort to
[16:22] protect northern Israel. But when an
[16:25] Israeli supported militia pulled out of
[16:27] the Lebanese town of Jazine this week,
[16:29] it was a sign that Israel intends as its
[16:31] new prime minister has promised to leave
[16:34] Lebanon for good. But as ABC's Klay
[16:36] Scott reports, the road to withdrawal is
[16:39] a rocky one.
[16:41] >> They poured into the streets of Jazine
[16:43] today to welcome their president. The
[16:45] emotion was spontaneous. Joy at
[16:47] rejoining the rest of Lebanon, relief
[16:49] that their backyard will no longer be a
[16:51] battlefield, as well as fear.
[16:55] The few remaining residents of this once
[16:57] thriving Christian town know that to
[16:58] many Lebanese, they are considered
[17:00] collaborators with Israel.
[17:04] The soldiers of the South Lebanon army,
[17:06] the Israelibbacked militia that ruled
[17:08] Jazine for 15 years, suddenly retreated
[17:10] on Thursday, finally driven out by the
[17:13] deadly attacks of Hezbollah guerillas.
[17:15] The last devastating blow, this roadside
[17:18] bomb that killed an SLA commander. The
[17:21] Lebanese government sees the pull out
[17:23] from Jazine as a triumph, the first step
[17:25] toward the end of Israeli occupation,
[17:27] but the complete pullback they're hoping
[17:28] for could leave a dangerous security
[17:30] vacuum.
[17:33] If Israel does withdraw from southern
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[17:47] Since the end of the civil war here in
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[17:50] Lebanese army millions of dollars in
[17:53] military equipment. From uniforms and
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[17:58] dozens of Lebanese officers have gone to
[18:00] the US for training. Now they say they
[18:02] are strong enough to keep the south from
[18:04] falling back into civil war.
[18:06] >> We in the army, we are ready to uh uh do
[18:10] our job and execute the mission.
[18:13] >> Today, Israel's jets fired rockets at
[18:15] what it said were Hezbollah targets,
[18:17] showing no sign it's ready to withdraw
[18:20] anytime soon. Clay Scott, ABC News,
[18:23] South Lebanon.
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[20:37] at Belmont. Today, it was to be a race
[20:39] for the history books. Tonight, it is
[20:41] concern over the injury suffered by
[20:43] Charismatic, who entered the stretch of
[20:45] the Belmont Stakes with a little bit of
[20:47] a lead and a chance to be the first
[20:49] Triple Crown winner in 21 years. Lesie
[20:52] Visser of ABC Sports covered the race
[20:54] and joins us tonight from Belmont. Good
[20:56] evening, Lesie. Good evening, Aaron. It
[20:58] was a day of mixed emotions out here at
[21:00] the 131st Belmont. Charismatic and
[21:02] trying to become the 12th horse to win
[21:04] the Triple Crown, suffered a condular
[21:06] fracture of his left front cannon bone.
[21:09] It is not life-threatening. That is the
[21:11] important information. He will undergo
[21:13] surgery tomorrow. Wayne Lucas, the
[21:15] trainer, just now said it probably was
[21:17] life-saving that Chris Antley, the
[21:19] jockey, pulled him up quickly and hopped
[21:21] off, but Chris Antley was quite
[21:23] emotional after the race.
[21:28] >> He broke down just after the wire. You
[21:30] know, it's just a sad thing when these
[21:32] things happen.
[21:33] Um, he gave us a lot. He gave America a
[21:38] lot.
[21:40] >> He certainly will not be forgotten. And
[21:42] not to be forgotten in this race is the
[21:44] effort of Lemon Drop Kid who did win the
[21:46] Bellmont. Charismatics battled him
[21:48] through the stretch. Lemon Drop Kid a
[21:50] quite a long shot for trainer Scotty
[21:53] >> Schulhoffer.
[21:55] CHARISMATIC IS BEATEN. HERE'S THE
[21:57] FINISH. It's going to BE TIGHT. LEMON
[21:59] DROP KID I BELIEVE HELD ON TO WIN IT BY
[22:01] A HEAD. TRAINED by Scotty Schulhaford.
[22:04] Written by Jose
[22:04] >> for Scotty Schulhaford. That was another
[22:06] upset win in the Belmont. In 1993, he
[22:08] won with Longshot Colonial Affair. Well,
[22:11] Aaron, it's been, you know, quite a day
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[22:18] >> Leslie, thanks. ABC's Leslie Visser
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[24:35] >> Finally tonight from us, the death of
[24:36] Mel Tormet, one of the great singers of
[24:38] our time, or perhaps another time
[24:41] really. There aren't many of his era
[24:42] left anymore. Mel Tormet died in
[24:45] California early today. Complications
[24:47] from a stroke. He was 73. Here's ABC's
[24:50] Bob Brown.
[24:53] >> Hold it. Hold it. Yeah. Yeah. Hold it,
[24:55] guys. You got to count four. Do you want
[24:57] me to count it for you?
[24:58] >> He was impatient. He was demanding. But
[25:01] he was an artist who understood every
[25:02] nuance of a song and his and everyone
[25:04] else's role in it.
[25:06] >> Natches to Mobile
[25:09] to St. Joe wherever the winds blow.
[25:13] >> The reason he earned such respect was
[25:15] that Tormet was not only one of the
[25:17] great vocal interpreters, he was one of
[25:19] the few named singers who could also
[25:21] write his own band arrangements. It was
[25:23] as if the cliche musician's musician was
[25:26] invented to describe him.
[25:30] >> As a teenage prodigy from Chicago in the
[25:33] 1940s, he used his skill as a drummer to
[25:36] perform with the Chico Marx band, then
[25:38] graduated to featured roles in Hollywood
[25:40] musicals. He settled down in Beverly
[25:42] Hills, where sitting by a pool one day
[25:45] in the heat of July, he wrote one of the
[25:47] most recorded songs of all time, the
[25:50] Christmas song. Chestnuts
[25:53] roasting on an open fire.
[25:56] >> He was only 21 then, but as he aged, he
[25:59] knew he would never fit the classic
[26:01] image of a kuner like his contemporary
[26:03] Frank Sinatra.
[26:04] >> Look at this classic profile of mine.
[26:07] Sort of small chin, double chin. Uh, not
[26:10] exactly Robert Redford. I am not a sex
[26:12] symbol type singer.
[26:16] >> Grow long. and he seemed to come easily
[26:19] to terms with the fact that he wasn't a
[26:20] huge commercial success. If we're going
[26:23] to fail, he once said, "Let's do it in
[26:25] style."
[26:26] >> So, he honed the musicianship that
[26:28] defined his career. And with typical
[26:31] Tormet feistiness, he fought the record
[26:33] labels that insisted he pad his
[26:35] recordings with rock and roll when that
[26:37] style came into vogue. I had to fight
[26:40] for every inch of wax that I wanted to
[26:43] record. And they said, "Don't be a wise
[26:46] punk. We'll tell you what to sing. I
[26:48] said, "No, you won't. Not unless you're
[26:52] Duke Ellington. Then you can tell me
[26:54] what to sing." Benny Goodman, you can
[26:56] tell me what to sing. Arty Shaw, but you
[26:59] don't know as much about music as I do.
[27:03] >> Not many people did. Don't
[27:07] swing.
[27:11] >> Back in the early days of his career, a
[27:14] disc jockey trying to describe Tormet's
[27:16] voice gave him the nickname the Velvet
[27:18] Fog. It stuck, but he never liked it.
[27:21] And in his 40s and 50s, as his voice
[27:24] matured and darkened, that old nickname
[27:26] became even less appropriate. This man
[27:29] who estimated he knew more than 5,000
[27:31] songs always illuminated the music with
[27:34] his voice.
[27:41] >> He never obscured it.
[27:49] >> He did transform it.
[28:03] Square.
[28:08] Bob Brown, ABC News, New York.
[28:17] >> Well, Tormet, we welcome your thoughts
[28:19] and comments on what we do. You can
[28:21] email us at weekendabcnews.com.
[28:24] That's our report for tonight. Tomorrow
[28:26] on this week with Sam Donaldson and Koki
[28:28] Roberts, the Kosovo peace plan. I'm Eron
[28:30] Brown for all of us at ABC News.
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