CBS Evening News - 1992-07-29

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[0:02] President Bush under attack from the

[0:04] Republican right. Some call on him to

[0:06] drop out. Crime and automated teller

[0:09] machines. A new push to keep this from

[0:11] happening to you. And eye on America

[0:14] tonight turning gray in prison

[0:16] pinstripe.

[0:17] >> How much time is it for the crime and

[0:20] then for punishment for punishment's

[0:22] sake?

[0:26] >> This is the CBS Evening News.

[0:32] Good evening. I'm Connie Chung sitting

[0:33] in tonight for Dan Rather. President

[0:35] Bush needed a strong stomach to handle

[0:37] the news he received today. A new poll

[0:40] in California gives Bill Clinton a 34

[0:43] point lead over President Bush, 62% to

[0:46] 28% in the state with the biggest

[0:49] electoral prize. If that wasn't enough

[0:51] to make the president's day,

[0:53] conservatives who have been bush bashing

[0:54] under their breasts spoke out loudly

[0:57] today. Susan Spencer reports.

[1:01] >> With the president's campaign sputtering

[1:03] and Governor Clinton zooming along, some

[1:05] conservatives are toying with a

[1:07] treasonous ride on the wild side.

[1:10] >> At this point, conservatives do not

[1:12] think that a Clinton administration

[1:15] would be much worse than a Bush

[1:16] administration. Conservative columnist

[1:18] George Will, a longtime Bush foe, today

[1:21] called on him not to run because Will

[1:23] said he has no reason to other than an

[1:26] ambition eerily disconnected from any

[1:28] agenda.

[1:29] >> Well, I think the fact that it's even

[1:30] being talked about is a sign of sort of

[1:32] the semi panic that uh many Republicans

[1:35] and others are feeling.

[1:37] >> Much of the right is still furious at

[1:39] the president for breaking his no new

[1:40] taxes pledge and for they charge

[1:42] neglecting their social agenda. No

[1:45] longer worried about communism, some

[1:47] feel free to flirt with the Democrats.

[1:49] But the White House's top conservative

[1:51] insists that one good look at Bill

[1:53] Clinton and they'll come home.

[1:55] >> And the conservatives are scared to

[1:57] death of a Supreme Court appointment

[1:59] that would be made by Bill Clinton. It

[2:02] scares conservatives and I think it

[2:03] would scare America to think that Mario

[2:05] Cuomo would be sitting on the Supreme

[2:06] Court.

[2:07] >> Though convinced conservatives won't

[2:09] desert in the end, the Bush campaign

[2:10] hasn't a clue yet what Perau supporters

[2:12] will do. Today it ran full page ads in

[2:15] 10 papers, a plea from the president.

[2:18] I'm asking for your vote. Television

[2:20] spots will start in some markets this

[2:22] weekend. But otherwise, Mr. Bush is

[2:24] refusing to embark on a full-scale

[2:26] campaign until after the convention to

[2:29] the dismay of some.

[2:30] >> I don't agree with it. I wish he'd be I

[2:32] wish he'd be more aggressive earlier. I

[2:34] believe the president emphatically

[2:36] believes that his campaign begins with

[2:38] his acceptance speech.

[2:39] >> To which campaign officials reply, "All

[2:41] in good time." And one predicted today

[2:43] that the race will tighten to between

[2:45] five and six points by Labor Day. Others

[2:47] keep noting that the election is in

[2:49] November, not July, which for Mr. Bush

[2:52] is a very good thing. Susan Spencer, CBS

[2:55] News, the White House. Bill Clinton

[2:58] today went to the site where George Bush

[3:00] made a promise he didn't keep. Clinton

[3:02] was obviously there to rub it in.

[3:04] Richard Thrill reports. Over the last

[3:07] two weeks, Bill Clinton talked economics

[3:10] today before a small invited audience in

[3:12] an otherwise empty New Orleans

[3:14] Superdome, where four years ago at the

[3:16] Republican convention, George Bush

[3:18] uttered those six little words,

[3:20] >> "Read my lips, no new taxes."

[3:26] >> He later broke that promise to help the

[3:28] economy, he said. And there are people

[3:30] who will tell you they have never

[3:31] forgiven him.

[3:32] >> Read my lips. I remember

[3:35] >> he's destroyed my image of what a

[3:37] president should be. He shouldn't say

[3:38] things like that.

[3:40] >> Today, Clinton challenged Mr. Bush to

[3:42] read his lips.

[3:43] >> We have disagreements about the economy.

[3:46] But the main point I want to make to you

[3:48] today is that beyond the trust issue,

[3:51] beyond the broken promises, beyond the

[3:54] bad economic policies, there is

[3:56] underneath all this an even more

[3:58] fundamental issue. and that is the

[4:00] failure of the president to assume

[4:02] responsibility for the future of this

[4:04] country.

[4:07] The great presidents of our time have

[4:10] gone beyond pointing the finger of blame

[4:12] to assume the burden of responsibility.

[4:15] Clinton's own economic plan gets high

[4:18] marks from many economists for stressing

[4:20] public investment like roads, rails,

[4:22] education. But it's questionable whether

[4:25] Clinton can do that and also keep his

[4:27] other promise to cut the federal deficit

[4:29] without a big tax increase or without a

[4:32] big cut in entitlements. Things like

[4:34] social security which make up half the

[4:36] federal budget.

[4:37] >> The numbers don't add up. If I I've

[4:41] hesitated to say this on television, but

[4:43] if the vice president is criticized

[4:45] because he can't spell, the Clinton

[4:47] campaign can't do its arithmetic. It's

[4:49] ironic that by far the toughest and most

[4:51] courageous economic plan comes from Ross

[4:53] Perau. But it involves so much sacrifice

[4:56] and so much political risk. It's said to

[4:58] be one big reason Perau decided not to

[5:00] run for president after all. Richard

[5:02] Thrrell, CBS News, New Orleans.

[5:05] >> UN weapons experts left Baguette today

[5:08] with no evidence of Iraq's war machine.

[5:10] Nothing except the reluctant conclusion

[5:13] that Saddam Hussein may very well have

[5:14] won this round in a big way. We have two

[5:17] reports from the Persian Gulf. First,

[5:19] Barry Peterson in Bahrain.

[5:21] >> They left Baghdad all but empty-handed,

[5:24] unable to find hard evidence that Iraq

[5:26] was producing one of the most feared

[5:27] weapons, biological warfare agents.

[5:30] Sources tell CBS the inspector suspected

[5:32] the ministry housed a biological

[5:34] research and production lab and that the

[5:36] missing records could give precise

[5:38] details of Iraqi research.

[5:40] >> I must say from the beginning, we didn't

[5:41] know if there was material. We had

[5:44] wellfounded concern that there was

[5:46] material in the building. Previous

[5:48] inspectors found documents showing that

[5:50] Iraq purchased equipment to develop

[5:52] biological warfare agents. Western

[5:54] intelligence has what it calls

[5:55] conclusive evidence, perhaps even an

[5:57] eyewitness, that the program was

[5:59] started. But where and how advanced? The

[6:01] West still doesn't know. Iraq's chemical

[6:04] weapons have, for the most part, now

[6:06] been found and destroyed. One of the

[6:08] missions of this inspection was to try

[6:10] and find out if the Iraqis were far

[6:12] enough along to get biological agents

[6:14] into warheads that could be fired by

[6:16] artillery or Scud missiles. A biological

[6:19] warfare attack was a great fear among

[6:21] the allies during the Gulf War. And

[6:23] that's why thousands of troops were

[6:25] vaccinated against Adrax, a biological

[6:28] warfare agent. Karen Jansen, the

[6:30] American leading the inspection team

[6:32] barred from the ministry, is a

[6:34] specialist in biological warfare. The

[6:36] fact that she never got into the

[6:37] ministry is seen as a victory for Iraq.

[6:41] The problem of finding the lab is

[6:42] enormous. The equipment is portable and

[6:44] easy to hide. But far more ominous is

[6:47] not finding the research records. That

[6:49] said one source leads to his simple

[6:51] conclusion. That the Iraqis plan to

[6:53] restart the program. Basically using

[6:56] their records to pick up where they left

[6:58] off before the Gulf War began. Barry

[7:01] Peterson, CBS News, Bahrain.

[7:05] The inspectors left the Ministry of

[7:07] Agriculture puzzled over the fact that

[7:09] furniture had been moved and new

[7:10] bookcases had old files on them. No one

[7:13] told them why. The most useful

[7:15] accomplishment was political. UN

[7:18] officials said senior Iraqis told them

[7:20] that a new era of relations had begun.

[7:22] The fact that no Americans were involved

[7:24] is seen as the main reason why the

[7:26] inspection was trouble-free. But the UN

[7:29] says it will continue to use the best

[7:31] people for the job. And that means

[7:33] American inspectors will be here in the

[7:35] future, whether the Iraqis like it or

[7:37] not.

[7:39] >> Saddam Hussein worked hard at giving the

[7:41] impression he didn't care what the UN

[7:43] did.

[7:46] >> In what might have been a page from

[7:47] President Bush's crisis handbook, the

[7:50] Iraqi leader went swimming during what

[7:52] was potentially Iraq's worst predicament

[7:54] since the Gulf War.

[7:56] And even as they crossed the Tigress

[7:58] River, his subjects chanted, "Bush

[8:00] listen, we love Saddam."

[8:04] >> Iraq's view of UN inspections is based

[8:06] on news shows like this one. Set to the

[8:08] theme of the old American TV series I

[8:11] Spy, home video is docked with slow

[8:13] motion, fancy editing, and snide

[8:16] commentary.

[8:19] A mission worthy of these people, the

[8:21] commentator says, as garbage is sifted,

[8:23] picking a lock merits the comment, "What

[8:25] kind of special skill is this?" If the

[8:28] UN considers the video a form of

[8:30] harassment, they're not saying, "We put

[8:33] together our team and they they have the

[8:35] judgment and we know that they have the

[8:37] professional skills, so they do the job

[8:39] in their way and in their right ways."

[8:42] Even though this mission went well, the

[8:44] fact that material was probably spirited

[8:47] away shows that the UN inspectors still

[8:49] face a monumental task to find and

[8:52] destroy Iraq's weapons program.

[8:55] Alan Pizzy, CBS News, Baghdad.

[8:58] >> A footnote to this story, CBS News

[9:00] Pentagon correspondent David Martin

[9:02] tells us the latest crisis with Iraq,

[9:04] which could have led to military action,

[9:06] was all the product of a

[9:08] misunderstanding. Apparently, UN

[9:10] inspectors didn't realize the building

[9:12] they demanded to search was a ministry,

[9:14] a symbol of Iraqi sovereignty. If they

[9:17] had, sources tell Martin the inspectors

[9:19] would have been more sensitive to Iraqi

[9:21] feelings and less confrontational.

[9:24] Still ahead on the CBS Evening News, a

[9:26] crime of convenience, tough new laws to

[9:29] protect customers at automated tellers,

[9:32] and growing old in prison. Should the

[9:35] elderly be set free?

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[10:20] >> So that's what you're eating?

[10:22] >> Too bad.

[10:23] >> This is a whole grain cereal.

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[10:46] >> A lot of criminals desperate for cash

[10:48] hang out at automated teller machines

[10:50] these days. And a lot of ATM customers

[10:53] are getting robbed and worse. Jazelle

[10:55] Fernandez reports on what could be a

[10:56] trend setting law so you can bank on

[10:59] safety.

[11:04] We all use them, the trendy way for the

[11:06] busy to bank in the '9s. In this age of

[11:09] convenience, automatic teller machines

[11:11] may be a huge hit. But across the

[11:13] nation, they are also being hit hard.

[11:15] The lure of quick cash on any corner is

[11:18] fast becoming the perfect scene for a

[11:20] crime. In Dallas, a surveillance camera

[11:23] captures the growing violence being

[11:25] reported at ATM sites across the

[11:27] country. In New York City, police

[11:29] sergeant Keith Lavine was killed trying

[11:31] to stop an ATM robbery in progress. His

[11:34] father blames poor bank security.

[11:36] >> There was a guard on that machine up

[11:38] until a month or two prior to my son

[11:40] passing that night. They decided to save

[11:43] money by getting rid of that guard and

[11:47] my boy is dead.

[11:48] >> Today, New York passed precedent setting

[11:50] legislation to regulate ATM safety. The

[11:53] law requires banks to install

[11:55] surveillance cameras, mirrors to reveal

[11:57] who's behind you to enhance lighting and

[11:59] improve door locks or hire security

[12:01] guards. The banking lobby fought hard

[12:04] against the legislation.

[12:05] >> Needless to say, with a little math, uh

[12:08] you're talking about millions of dollars

[12:10] for banks to put guards in every

[12:12] vestibule.

[12:13] >> Why has banking industry been so

[12:14] reluctant to go ahead and approve

[12:16] something like this? They've been

[12:17] fighting you every step of the way.

[12:19] >> The bankers are true to their general

[12:21] calling. They are very concerned about

[12:23] cost. Uh they have placed money ahead of

[12:26] the people's safety here.

[12:27] >> But without improved security, ATMs may

[12:29] turn out to be risky for banks as well.

[12:32] David Green was shot in the back while

[12:34] withdrawing cash.

[12:35] >> I don't use ATM machines. Uh I it's not

[12:38] worth it to me to for the convenience.

[12:41] I'll spend the extra time and go inside

[12:43] and wait for a teller. As more and more

[12:45] people become aware of the dangers of

[12:46] using ATMs, cities across the nation

[12:49] will be watching with great interest to

[12:50] see whether these safety measures can

[12:52] really make this a secured transaction.

[12:55] Jazelle Fernandez, CBS News, New York.

[12:59] Coming up next, a scandal in a bank

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[13:03] the most powerful men in Washington.

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[14:54] >> One of Washington's veteran insiders was

[14:56] indicted today for allegedly living

[14:58] outside the law. He's accused of making

[15:01] money by helping the people responsible

[15:03] for the world's biggest bank fraud. CBS

[15:05] News law correspondent Rita Braver has

[15:07] the details.

[15:09] >> Legendary Washington lawyer Clark Floyd

[15:11] Clifford and his proteéé Robert Alman

[15:14] were indicted today for conspiracy and

[15:16] fraud by both federal and New York state

[15:18] grand juries. The men allegedly helped

[15:21] the notorious Arabcontrolled Bank of

[15:23] Credit and Commerce International, BCCI,

[15:26] conceal its illegal ownership of an

[15:28] American bank in exchange for huge

[15:31] payoffs. At the heart of today's

[15:33] indictment is an alleged conspiracy by

[15:36] Mr. Clifford and Mr. Altman to deceive

[15:39] federal banking regulators in order to

[15:42] prevent the unraveling of Mr. Clifford

[15:44] and Mr. Alman's banking empire and to

[15:47] protect their millions of dollars in

[15:50] personal sweetheart loan transactions

[15:52] and stock transactions with BCCI.

[15:55] Clifford and Alman issued a statement

[15:57] calling the indictments cruel and unjust

[15:59] and for claiming their innocence as they

[16:01] have previously.

[16:03] >> We've not been guilty of any misconduct.

[16:06] >> Alman is best known for his flamboyant

[16:08] lifestyle and his marriage to actress

[16:10] Linda Carter, TV's Wonder Woman. But

[16:13] 85-year-old Clifford is one of

[16:14] Washington's leading power brokers, a

[16:17] former defense secretary and adviser to

[16:19] Democratic presidents, a man whose very

[16:22] name could open doors. And Doug France,

[16:25] who's just written a book on BCCI, says

[16:27] that's just what the bank wanted.

[16:29] >> I think what we've seen in Washington is

[16:31] an incredible growth of special

[16:34] interests that hire people with large

[16:37] reputations to pedal influence for them

[16:40] to get them access. That's really what

[16:42] this amounted to. Far too often in a

[16:44] town like Washington, we're willing to

[16:47] look the other way when someone like

[16:49] Clark Clifford is involved. If

[16:51] convicted, Clifford and Altman face long

[16:53] jail terms and stiff fines. Their

[16:56] indictment is not expected to halt

[16:58] influence selling here, but it could

[17:01] slow sales, at least for a while. Rita

[17:04] Braver, CBS News, Washington.

[17:07] Federal health officials responded today

[17:09] to a dramatic plea from a man who has a

[17:11] tumor on his brain. Jay David Gro told

[17:14] Congress yesterday that politics and red

[17:16] tape were keeping him from getting an

[17:18] experimental drug. It's RU486, the

[17:21] so-called French abortion pill banned in

[17:24] this country. Today, the FDA said Grow

[17:26] can have the drug. The agency insisting

[17:28] it had never tried to interfere. The

[17:31] Pentagon confirmed today it's looking

[17:33] into another alleged incident of sexual

[17:35] assault at last year's Tail Hook

[17:37] Convention in Las Vegas. It says

[17:39] investigators have obtained film said to

[17:41] show Navy aviators fondling and

[17:44] undressing a drunken 17-year-old girl.

[17:46] At least 26 other women claimed they

[17:48] were assaulted in a hotel hallway during

[17:50] the convention.

[17:52] Coming up next on the CBS Evening News,

[17:54] an ousted leader returned from exile to

[17:56] answer for the deaths of hundreds of his

[17:58] people.

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[19:48] >> A federal appeals court ruled today that

[19:50] the Bush administration policy on

[19:52] Haitian refugees is illegal. The court

[19:55] said the refugees may not be intercepted

[19:57] at sea and returned to Haiti without a

[19:59] hearing. Eric Haniker is finally home

[20:02] again. The former East German dictator

[20:04] is under arrest tonight in a Berlin

[20:06] prison after leaving exile in Moscow. As

[20:09] Anthony Mason reports, Hanukker's

[20:11] problems are only beginning.

[20:13] >> The Russians wanted him out. The Germans

[20:16] wanted him back. Today, former East

[20:18] German leader Eric Haniker ended 17

[20:20] months in exile, leaving his refuge in

[20:23] Moscow's Chilean embassy to return to

[20:25] face trial in his homeland.

[20:30] For 18 years, Eric Haniker presided over

[20:33] East Germany's staunchly communist

[20:35] state. The Berlin Wall was built under

[20:37] his supervision and more than 200 people

[20:40] were shot dead trying to escape across

[20:42] it.

[20:42] >> He was the one who gave the order to

[20:44] shoot and that's the reason why we want

[20:47] to have Mr. Hanukkah before court in

[20:50] Germany.

[20:52] >> After the wall collapsed, Hanukkah

[20:54] escaped to Moscow with the help of

[20:56] Soviet troops. Gorbachov welcomed his

[20:59] old communist ally. Germany protested

[21:02] >> and they keep talking a lot about it and

[21:05] uh it is always raised when high

[21:07] officials of the two countries meet.

[21:09] >> When Germany offered Russia billions of

[21:12] dollars in aid, Boris Yelton was ready

[21:14] to give them Hanukkah in return. But in

[21:17] December, Hanukker dropped by the

[21:18] Chilean embassy in Moscow for lunch and

[21:21] refused to leave. With his wife, he

[21:24] remained a virtual prisoner inside the

[21:27] embassy gates for 8 months. Russian,

[21:30] German, and Chilean officials bargained

[21:32] over his fate. When it was clear no

[21:34] other country was prepared to offer him

[21:36] asylum, Hanukker finally agreed to go

[21:39] home. As he arrived in Berlin tonight,

[21:41] Hanukker was immediately placed under

[21:43] arrest. The old party chief returned

[21:46] offering no apologies. Still a defiant

[21:49] soldier of the Cold War. Anthony Mason,

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[24:03] You probably never give it a thought,

[24:04] but thousands of people in this country

[24:06] are spending their old age behind bars.

[24:09] They are convicted criminals in the

[24:11] final years of their lives. Bob Paul

[24:14] shows you what life is like for them in

[24:16] tonight's Eye on America.

[24:23] >> If you think it's hard growing old in

[24:25] America, imagine what it's like growing

[24:27] old in America's prison.

[24:30] Inmate Nat Steelman, now 83, knows. Do

[24:34] >> you worry about dying here?

[24:36] >> Sure I do. It's cruel, inhuman

[24:39] punishment. It's a feeling shared by

[24:42] 81-year-old Lonnie Simmons, convicted of

[24:44] attempted murder in Louisiana, and by

[24:46] convicted murderer Clyde Mlelen, a

[24:49] double amputee imprisoned in Virginia.

[24:51] >> I'm not a threat to the society anymore.

[24:55] >> Moving slowly now and weaker. They are

[24:57] easy prey for younger inmates.

[25:00] >> Got broken ribs and I have a broken jaw.

[25:03] Yeah.

[25:03] >> Just from the other inmates.

[25:05] >> Yes.

[25:05] >> Who picked on you mostly because you

[25:07] were older?

[25:08] >> Yes. Uh-huh.

[25:11] And since older prisoners get sick more

[25:13] often than younger inmates, the cost of

[25:15] maintaining them is two to three times

[25:18] higher.

[25:18] >> We cost a lot more. Medications a lot

[25:21] more. We slow the system down. We're

[25:24] really a bother to the system.

[25:26] >> Today in state and federal prisons like

[25:28] this one, Angola and Louisiana, there

[25:30] are an estimated 40,000 prisoners aged

[25:32] 55 and over. and say the experts, that

[25:35] number is doubling every four years,

[25:37] meaning that by the turn of the century,

[25:39] the nation's prisons will be bulging

[25:41] with older prisoners, 125,000 of them.

[25:45] >> Never in our history have we housed so

[25:47] many geriatric and older offenders.

[25:49] We're going to start to try to find ways

[25:52] to present your cases.

[25:53] >> Law professor Jonathan Turley now

[25:55] travels the jail circuit trying to help

[25:57] old prisoners win early release. What

[26:00] we're arguing is that this guy served

[26:02] enough time that at a time of

[26:04] overcrowding, this is a guy you don't

[26:05] want to continue to incarcerate. He got

[26:07] better uses for that cell.

[26:09] >> It's an argument which is winning over

[26:11] even conservative lawmakers inclined to

[26:13] lock them up and throw away the key.

[26:16] >> Over the hill gang isn't going to do

[26:17] them anything. The 15 to 25 year olds

[26:20] are going to kill them, rape them, throw

[26:23] down old ladies and steal that purse.

[26:25] >> But where to put them? Turley sometimes

[26:28] suggests nursing homes. But when

[26:29] 78-year-old Bill Tom Moore was furoughed

[26:32] to one, Moore was so unruly he had to be

[26:34] returned to prison. Problem two,

[26:37] appearances can be very deceiving.

[26:39] >> If you saw him walking down the street

[26:41] of your hometown, you'd say, "There's

[26:43] somebody just like my granddad." And

[26:45] when you realize what they've done and

[26:46] the serious nature of that, then it can

[26:48] certainly temper the sympathy that you

[26:50] would have towards them as an older

[26:52] person. Kindly old Nat Steelman, for

[26:55] example, is serving a 40-year term for

[26:58] molesting children. He should rot in

[27:00] jail, whatever his age, says the mother

[27:02] of one of his victims.

[27:04] >> He can still molest children. He can

[27:06] still ruin their lives. And the only day

[27:08] I'll feel safe for the children of this

[27:10] town or any other town that he could be

[27:13] turned out in is the day that they bring

[27:14] him back and bury him.

[27:18] >> Still, some old-timers who have been

[27:20] released are flourishing. 69-year-old

[27:22] Quentyn Brown, who was sentenced to 30

[27:24] years for stealing a pie, served 18

[27:27] years before getting released two years

[27:29] ago.

[27:30] >> Why keep an old man in prison? What's he

[27:33] going to do out on the street?

[27:35] >> Far less, say prison critics than some

[27:37] younger, more violent criminals now on

[27:39] the street who can't do hard time

[27:42] because some oldtimer is warming that

[27:44] cell.

[27:45] >> How much time is enough? How much time

[27:48] is it for the crime and then for

[27:50] punishment for punishment's sake?

[27:53] >> Older prisoners agree dying in prison,

[27:55] being buried as just a number in some

[27:58] prison cemetery is their ultimate fear.

[28:01] Our fear, say prison critics, is that

[28:04] more and more elderly will end up here

[28:06] at a cost society can no longer afford.

[28:10] In Angola, Louisiana, this is Bob Fall

[28:13] for Eye on America.

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