The O'Reilly Factor (FNC) - 2006-07-28

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[0:00] This detective went undercover to bust a

[0:02] drug ring. But was a woman murdered

[0:04] because of his m the leader of Iraq, an

[0:06] anti-semite. [music]

[0:08] And then he compared a Republican

[0:09] congresswoman to Stalin. Rough week for

[0:12] Howard Dean. Can the Democrats get him

[0:14] under control? And the anti-war

[0:16] protester who shouted down Iraq's prime

[0:18] minister is going to be here. Caution.

[0:20] You are about to enter a no spin zone.

[0:23] The factor begins right now.

[0:34] Hey, I'm Laura Ingram reporting tonight

[0:36] for Bill O'Reilly. Thanks for watching

[0:38] us. Criticism of Israel and the United

[0:41] States is echoing across the globe. And

[0:44] on the Arab street, well, Hezbollah is

[0:46] increasingly being seen as heroic for

[0:49] standing up to Israel. That's the

[0:51] subject of tonight's Talking Points

[0:52] memo. Arab countries like Saudi Arabia,

[0:55] Jordan, and Egypt, initially critical of

[0:57] Hezbollah, are now calling for an

[0:59] immediate ceasefire. And then you have a

[1:02] thousand professors from America and

[1:04] beyond who signed a petition condemning

[1:07] Israel's aggression. And then yesterday,

[1:09] Democrat Congressman Jim McDermott said

[1:12] that we should all sit down with

[1:14] Hezbollah and Hamas and that terrorism

[1:17] is in the eye of the beholder. And then

[1:20] the dinosaur media, well, it's playing

[1:22] its usual blame America tune. One

[1:24] Washington Post columnist, Eugene

[1:26] Robinson, wrote today that quote,

[1:28] "Lebanon is Condi's war because she

[1:31] didn't order Israel to stand down." It

[1:34] is a sick world that we live in when the

[1:36] aggressor here, which is Hezbollah,

[1:38] which deliberately targets innocents,

[1:40] successfully paints itself as the

[1:42] victim. It attacks Israel across its

[1:45] internationally recognized boundary. It

[1:47] violates a UN mandate. And then once

[1:49] again, it's Israel's fault. And by

[1:51] proxy, of course, it's our fault.

[1:53] Retaliation against unprovoked

[1:55] aggression is not only a right, it's an

[1:58] obligation. Israel deserves the same

[2:01] thing that America rightfully asks for

[2:03] itself. When attacked by terrorists,

[2:06] Israel, like any other country, has the

[2:09] right to respond forcefully and also has

[2:11] the right to expect civilized nations to

[2:13] support its actions. Yet, at least one

[2:16] new poll indicates that Main Street USA

[2:19] is growing increasingly frustrated with

[2:22] our foreign involvement. 58% think that

[2:25] it's not our role to try to resolve the

[2:28] fight between Israel and the rest of the

[2:29] Middle East and 64%

[2:32] think that the region will never be at

[2:34] peace. That according to a new CBS New

[2:36] York Times poll. Whether it's Iraq or

[2:39] the current offensive against Hezbollah,

[2:41] President Bush is losing the PR war at

[2:44] home and abroad. And look, if

[2:47] isolationist views are on the rise in

[2:49] the United States, well, the rest of the

[2:51] world might get its way. Our voters may

[2:54] elect a president in 2008 who feels

[2:57] pressured to give up our leadership role

[3:00] in world affairs. And let me tell you,

[3:02] if that happens, the rest of the world

[3:04] won't have the good old US of A to kick

[3:06] around anymore. And so the next time

[3:08] there's a crisis and they come crying

[3:10] for help, well, it might be too late.

[3:12] And that's the memo. Now for our top

[3:14] story tonight, two more views on all of

[3:16] this. Joining us from New York is Fox

[3:18] News contributor Dan Seenor. He's a

[3:20] former spokesman for the coalition

[3:22] provisional authority in Iraq. And here

[3:25] in Washington, Kamal Nash, who's the

[3:27] president of the Free Muslim Coalition

[3:29] Against Terrorism. Gentlemen, thanks for

[3:31] joining us.

[3:31] >> Good to be with you, Laura.

[3:32] >> Um Kamal, let's start with you. Um the

[3:35] president and Tony Blair stood up at

[3:37] that press conference today and they

[3:39] said yes a ceasefire but a ceasefire

[3:42] only if it's a meaningful ceasefire and

[3:44] that means the status quo as before

[3:46] these attacks has to change. What do you

[3:49] say?

[3:49] >> Well you know that's fine. That's fine.

[3:51] The thing that the President Bush said

[3:53] and Condisa Wright said is that we want

[3:55] a permanent situation a permanent end to

[3:57] hostilities and she said we want to get

[3:59] to the root of the problem. And then

[4:01] when she defined the root of the

[4:03] problem, she said the root of the

[4:04] problem is you have an organization like

[4:06] Hezbollah that's running loose. That's a

[4:08] terrorist organization. We need to get

[4:09] them from the border. But I don't think

[4:11] that's the root of the problem. That's a

[4:13] symptom of the root of the problem. The

[4:15] root of the problem is you have a

[4:16] 60-year dispute between Israel and its

[4:19] neighbors. And you need to work on

[4:21] solving this dispute. The dispute

[4:23] between the Israelis and the

[4:24] Palestinians, the Syrians and the

[4:26] Israelis and the Lebanese.

[4:27] >> They pulled out of Gaza. They pulled out

[4:29] of Lebanon. And then what they got for

[4:31] that th those two acts they got rocket

[4:34] fire and soldiers being kidnapped. So to

[4:37] so to blur this up and say, "Well, this

[4:38] is about the old land dispute." If you

[4:40] want to talk about a land dispute, talk

[4:42] about it. Don't kidnap soldiers and

[4:44] don't then violate international

[4:46] boundaries.

[4:46] >> I totally agree,

[4:47] >> Dan. I I I got to tell you, I'm hearing

[4:49] calls for, you know, regional

[4:50] conferences and and and and

[4:52] condemnations of infrastructure bombings

[4:55] uh by by Israel. And I think to myself,

[4:57] how did we get to a situation where the

[4:59] victim is now the aggressor?

[5:01] >> Right. And and regional conferences with

[5:03] whom, I may ask, I mean, regional

[5:05] regional conferences with Mr. Nasaralla,

[5:07] the head of Hisbala, do we want to sit

[5:08] down and talk to him? What about the

[5:10] Iranians, the moolas and thyron who are

[5:12] behind certainly the financing and the

[5:14] supply of a lot of the weaponry behind

[5:15] the violence we've seen? we're going to

[5:16] sit down and talk to them about this. I

[5:18] mean, let's be realistic. The fact of

[5:20] the matter is what makes this an

[5:21] especially unconventional war is that we

[5:23] don't have anybody to deal with. In wars

[5:25] where we were dealing with state actors,

[5:27] go back to World War II in Germany. We

[5:29] bombed cities like Dresden to

[5:31] smithetheriness, killed leveled, you

[5:33] know, killed lots of civilians, leveled

[5:35] the cities, and that's when we were

[5:36] fighting against a state actor. Here, we

[5:38] don't even have a state actor to deal

[5:40] with. We are dealing with this non-state

[5:42] actor, this terrorist, amorphous,

[5:44] shadowy terrorist organization. And

[5:46] we're expected to sit down and have a

[5:47] regional conver uh uh conference and

[5:49] have Israel be the target of

[5:51] condemnation.

[5:53] >> Come on. I I got to tell you to to hear

[5:55] people condemn Israel when if we were

[5:58] attacked here in Washington,

[6:01] Chicago, St. Louis, and the way that

[6:03] Israel has been attacked, our people

[6:05] would just be just as unified as the

[6:06] Israeli people to say, not only kill the

[6:09] people who did this, but make it so

[6:11] painful that they'll never do this

[6:12] again. Do you understand that? I totally

[6:14] understand that and I agree. I think

[6:16] there's a confusion. If you said

[6:17] something in the introduction, you said

[6:19] when Hisbalah first attacked Israel, the

[6:21] Arab governments criticize Hisbalah. The

[6:24] the

[6:25] >> Don't want to destroy him too much

[6:26] though.

[6:27] >> The disagreement came is that when

[6:28] Israel, they wanted Israel to attack

[6:30] Hezbollah and attackba

[6:33] in neighborhoods in residential

[6:35] neighborhoods.

[6:35] >> Okay, but that's fine. But Israel also

[6:37] attacked all of Lebanon. They attack not

[6:40] I you I know what your comments you know

[6:43] why did they attack the airport

[6:44] >> what they don't want new supplies but

[6:45] they put

[6:46] >> they attack the bridge why did they hit

[6:47] that bridge

[6:48] >> they didn't want 10,000 Kusha rockets

[6:50] are enough they don't want another

[6:52] 10,000

[6:53] >> all Israel had to say that if any plane

[6:55] lands we would shoot it but see here's

[6:57] what happened even the Christians even

[6:59] the Christians

[6:59] >> Christians are criticizing Hezbollah

[7:01] even in the New York Times today

[7:02] >> well look you know our organization gets

[7:04] a lot we read a lot of the local

[7:06] newspapers in that region initially they

[7:08] were anti-Hisbala. They wanted Hisbala

[7:10] destroyed. Now they're so upset.

[7:11] >> If I hear disproportionate force, no,

[7:13] not disproportionate. I'm going to lose

[7:14] it. That's not disproportionate. I agree

[7:16] with what Israel is doing. I'm saying

[7:18] they should have focused their attack on

[7:20] Hezbollah infrastructure when they

[7:22] attack Lebanese infrastructure.

[7:24] >> Makes it impossible to do that because

[7:26] of the way they operate. They're

[7:27] chicken. They are chicken. Their own

[7:29] leader is hiding probably in in an

[7:31] embassy if that report is accurate. Dan,

[7:33] I'm going to give you the last word.

[7:34] >> Yeah. Two things. One, uh, Laura, to

[7:36] your point, Hezbollah has a

[7:38] long-standing practice of locating their

[7:39] weapons and basing their operations out

[7:41] of civilian areas. To say that Israel

[7:43] should not attack civilian areas is to

[7:45] say they shouldn't confront Hezbollah.

[7:46] Hisba is to blame for the violence in

[7:48] these civilian areas, not Israel. Well,

[7:51] gentlemen, I appreciate both of your

[7:52] points of view and I know we're going to

[7:53] have you back because this isn't [music]

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[8:02] during the Iraq prime minister's speech

[8:04] enters the no spin zone. And later, the

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[11:00] >> It was really quite a scary day here.

[11:02] >> These are weapons of terror. Simply put,

[11:04] >> we put the story in perspective and the

[11:06] world in context. All weekend, live

[11:08] coverage of the M East crisis is on the

[11:10] Fox News Channel. This weekend, our

[11:13] daytime team is live with special

[11:15] coverage of the M East conflict. First,

[11:17] Trace Gallagher is on scene with live

[11:19] reports. Then, Israel pushes into

[11:21] Lebanon. Get an inside look at their

[11:23] strategy. Plus, how will Hezbollah

[11:25] respond? We're live from the front line.

[11:33] Hello everyone, I'm Patty Yan Brown.

[11:34] Hezbollah begins what it's calling the

[11:36] second stage of the war against Israel

[11:38] by unleashing a new weapon. Fox News

[11:41] correspondent Jeff Goldblad is live in

[11:43] Jerusalem with the latest. Hi Jeff.

[11:46] >> Hi Patty. And an escalation of firepower

[11:48] on the part of Hezbollah takes this

[11:50] battle to its deepest point yet into

[11:52] Israel. This happened yesterday here in

[11:55] Israel with Hezbollah so proud of this

[11:58] new weapon, this new kind of rocket, it

[12:00] even broadcast a launch for propaganda

[12:02] reasons. They call it the Kyber 1, named

[12:05] after the battle between the prophet

[12:06] Muhammad and Jewish tribes in the

[12:08] Arabian Peninsula. But Israel says the

[12:10] rockets are Iranade Fodger Fives, which

[12:13] can send a warhead of almost 400 lb,

[12:15] nearly 45 miles. Hezbollah launched five

[12:18] of these rockets, most crashing into an

[12:20] empty field outside the city of Afoula.

[12:22] No one was hurt. In a statement,

[12:24] Hezbollah called the attack a decision

[12:26] in response to the brutal aggression by

[12:28] Israel. It comes two days after the head

[12:30] of Hezbollah vowed to take the war

[12:33] farther into Israel beyond Hifa, 22 mi

[12:36] south of the border and already a

[12:38] frequent target. The Israeli military

[12:40] responded in quick fashion, taking out

[12:42] the launcher located in southern

[12:44] Lebanon. That's the latest live in

[12:46] Jerusalem. I'm Jeff Goldblat. Now back

[12:47] to you.

[12:48] >> All right, Jeff. Thank you. Our next

[12:50] news breakak is after the bottom of the

[12:51] hour. The O'Reilly Factor returns now.

[12:53] And for the latest headlines, Fox

[12:55] Newsw.com.

[13:00] And in the personal story segment

[13:02] tonight, twice this week, members of the

[13:04] anti-war group Code Pink have

[13:06] interrupted events on Capitol Hill by

[13:08] heckling politicians. There was this at

[13:11] Ambassador John Bolton's confirmation

[13:13] hearing.

[13:15] I strongly oppose the nomination of this

[13:19] man, John Bolton, as UN ambassador. He

[13:22] is a discredit to the United States.

[13:25] >> And this during the Iraqi prime

[13:26] minister's speech to Congress

[13:29] to leave, bring them home.

[13:32] >> The chair notes disturbance in the

[13:34] gallery. The sergeant-at-arms will

[13:36] secure order by removing those engaging

[13:38] in disruption.

[13:40] >> And with us now is one of the culprits.

[13:43] Madia Benjamin is the co-founder of Code

[13:45] Pink, who was charged with disruption of

[13:48] Congress. You don't have any leg irons

[13:49] on you or uh handcuffs or anything.

[13:51] They've sprung you. Eh,

[13:52] >> that's right. And I must say, you look

[13:53] very pretty in pink, Laura.

[13:55] >> Well, um I would like to say that I was

[13:57] wearing it for you, but I just it

[13:58] [clears throat] was the only thing in my

[13:59] closet. Okay. Here's my question to you.

[14:01] How does heckling help the cause of

[14:03] human rights? I would assume you would

[14:05] agree that you're a human rights

[14:06] activist, right?

[14:07] >> Yeah. I don't like the word heckling. I

[14:09] would say that's what you were doing.

[14:10] speaking. Well, that's the word you use,

[14:12] but we were saying that we're speaking

[14:14] up for uh the people who weren't being

[14:16] heard. We tried through many means to

[14:18] meet with the prime minister. We called

[14:20] his office before he came.

[14:21] >> Are you kidding me?

[14:22] >> Oh, no. I'm serious.

[14:23] >> You actually thought you were going to

[14:25] meet with the prime minister.

[14:25] >> We came very close. We spoke to the

[14:27] ambassador three times and he said he

[14:29] got us a meeting and then they never

[14:31] showed up for it. So, we didn't have a

[14:33] chance. He spoke to George Bush. He

[14:35] spoke to Congress. But

[14:36] >> why should he meet with Code Bank? Just

[14:38] because we represent now the majority

[14:40] voice in the United States.

[14:41] >> Oh, so Code Pink speaks for the majority

[14:43] of Americans. You think the latest of

[14:45] the New York Times?

[14:46] >> Do you think that the majority of

[14:47] Americans see what you guys did this

[14:50] week on Capitol Hill and are standing up

[14:52] going, "Yeah, be rude to the Iraqi prime

[14:55] minister. Yeah, be really rude and act

[14:57] like you're about 12 years old when the

[14:59] UN ambassador who's trying to represent

[15:01] our country's interests is up on Capitol

[15:03] Hill testifying. You think people really

[15:04] think you guys are cool for doing that?"

[15:06] Well, I tell you, we get hundreds and

[15:08] hundreds of emails and calls saying,

[15:11] "Thank you so much for standing up to

[15:12] us." But Laura, let me just say one

[15:13] thing. The Iraqi prime minister was not

[15:16] representing the majority view of

[15:17] Iraqis.

[15:18] >> Oh, so now you not only represent the

[15:19] majority view of Americans, you actually

[15:21] also represent the majority view of

[15:22] Iraq.

[15:23] >> Well, 87% of Iraqis won a timetable for

[15:26] withdrawal of your troops. I've seen the

[15:27] majority of Americans want

[15:29] >> I have a couple questions for you.

[15:30] Number one, are you a human rights

[15:31] activist?

[15:32] >> Yes. What do you think would happen to

[15:34] you if you were trying to organize the

[15:36] group that you have now? Let's say in

[15:39] Saddam's Iraq or in Iran today, what do

[15:41] you think would happen to you?

[15:42] >> You'd probably be in jail if I was lucky

[15:44] and maybe dead if I wasn't.

[15:45] >> So then you would agree, would you not,

[15:47] that the current situation Iraq, as

[15:49] difficult as it is, is much much better

[15:51] for the cause that you say that you

[15:53] represent, which is human rights.

[15:54] >> I fought against Saddam Hussein when

[15:57] Donald Rumsfeld was there shaking hands

[15:58] and saying, "This is a guy we can work

[16:00] with." I'm against all dictatorships.

[16:03] I'm against all human rights.

[16:04] >> That's that's a John Lennon song. That's

[16:06] not a plan. What's the plan to keep

[16:07] America safe today?

[16:08] >> The plan to keep America safe. Well,

[16:10] let's start with Iraq. In Iraq, there is

[16:12] a reconciliation plan that the Iraqis

[16:15] have come up with and we are saying,

[16:17] "Let's support the Iraqi Sunni, Shia,

[16:19] Kurds who are trying to bring a

[16:21] reconciliation."

[16:21] >> That's what and Prime Minister Maliki

[16:23] said that he was actually pursuing, but

[16:24] you think he's not really doing

[16:25] >> lied to pursue it. In fact, he was about

[16:28] to announce it, but it included one

[16:30] thing, Laura, that George Bush forced

[16:31] him to take out, and that was a

[16:33] timetable for withdrawal of US troops.

[16:35] President of Iraq, vice president for

[16:38] the terrorist said, "We want a

[16:40] timetable." Well, I think the only way

[16:42] out of Iraq is that people sit down and

[16:44] start negotiating.

[16:45] >> Yeah. This is my question to If you're

[16:46] you live in let's say you live in a

[16:47] dangerous neighborhood and you had an

[16:48] alarm system on your house, would you

[16:51] ever advertise uh a decision that you

[16:53] were making to do away with your alarm

[16:55] system alarm company's monitoring of

[16:57] your house? Wouldn't that be signaling

[16:59] to criminals, come in, take what you

[17:01] want?

[17:01] >> And if you were about to go off the

[17:03] cliff, which is George Bush is doing to

[17:05] us in Iraq in this incredible quagmire,

[17:08] wouldn't you stop and say, hey, let's

[17:10] sit down. We should never have invaded

[17:11] Iraq. They did not threaten us. We

[17:14] should not be there. And the Iraqis

[17:15] don't want us to be there. They have to

[17:17] come up with the solution.

[17:18] >> Who's responsible today for uh women in

[17:21] Afghanistan being allowed to vote?

[17:23] People being allowed to freely choose

[17:25] among lots of different candidates for

[17:27] the Iraqi parliament. Who's responsible

[17:29] for that?

[17:30] >> Well, I think in the case of

[17:31] Afghanistan, it's [music] positive that

[17:33] women have the right to vote, but there

[17:35] is still

[17:36] >> You don't want to give George Bush

[17:38] credit for anything, do you? You don't

[17:39] want to give him credit for Afghanistan

[17:40] having the vision or Iraq. Are we

[17:42] supposed to go around the world freeing

[17:44] people or are we supposed to find who

[17:45] attacked us on 911? We let Osama bin

[17:48] Laden go and instead we invaded [music]

[17:49] the wrong country, Iraq, and we should

[17:51] get out of

[17:52] >> I think you should try to give uh those

[17:53] talking points on a military base in

[17:55] Iraq and see how far you get. But we

[17:56] appreciate you your your uh stand

[17:58] [music] up to come in and talk to us.

[17:59] I'm glad you're out of jail. When we

[18:01] come back, Howard Dean with two

[18:02] off-the-wall comments and one day. Are

[18:05] the Democrats doomed under this guy's

[18:06] leadership? And then a war of words over

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[21:32] tonight, is the Democratic Party lost as

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[21:38] week, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi came

[21:41] out with the party's new campaign theme.

[21:43] It ended up being kind of a laundry list

[21:45] of six very broad goals. How are they

[21:48] going to achieve them? Well, I have no

[21:50] idea. And the party's chairman, Howard

[21:52] Dean, he's still having trouble with the

[21:54] stuff coming out of his mouth.

[21:57] >> He's going to beat the pants off

[21:58] Katherine Harris, who didn't understand

[22:00] that it is ethically improper to be the

[22:03] chairman of a campaign [applause] and

[22:04] count the votes at the same time. This

[22:07] is not Russia and she is not Stalin.

[22:10] President made a big deal about bringing

[22:12] the Iraqi prime minister to address

[22:15] Congress and met with him yesterday.

[22:17] The Iraqi prime minister is an

[22:19] anti-semite.

[22:21] >> And joining us now from DNC headquarters

[22:24] is K Karen Finny. She's the DNC

[22:27] communications director. Karen, good to

[22:29] have you with us.

[22:30] >> Good to be with you tonight.

[22:31] >> Um Karen, I got to ask you, when I uh

[22:34] heard the Howard Dean uh calling the

[22:36] Iraqi prime minister, his visit to

[22:38] Washington, calling him an anti-semite,

[22:41] I thought to myself, how does this

[22:43] advance the ball for the Democrats? Why

[22:45] don't you explain?

[22:46] Well, let's, you know, I actually have a

[22:48] question for the Bush administration.

[22:49] How is it that they

[22:50] >> That's not how it works. Let's let's You

[22:52] can go after the Bush administration

[22:54] plenty of time, but how how does how

[22:57] does calling the Iraqi prime minister an

[22:59] anti-semite, advance the ball

[23:01] politically for the Democrat?

[23:03] >> Well, there's an unanswered question as

[23:04] to why we're spending billions of

[23:05] dollars to support a prime minister that

[23:07] refuses to denounce Hezbollah, which is

[23:10] a terrorist organization, and we're

[23:12] supposed to be fighting a war on terror.

[23:13] We'd like some answers to that. Well,

[23:15] the one thing I found the one thing I

[23:17] found interesting though, Karen, is let

[23:19] me because No, I as I asked a question

[23:20] where you have plenty of time, Karen,

[23:22] and you don't have to talk over me. We

[23:23] have plenty of time. But I just going to

[23:24] ask that question again.

[23:26] >> How does calling the Iraqi prime

[23:28] minister an anti-semite advance the ball

[23:30] politically for Democrats.

[23:32] >> The point here, Laura, is that we're

[23:34] going to hold this administration

[23:35] accountable for its failed policies.

[23:37] They're trying, they're supporting a

[23:39] prime minister who has refused to

[23:41] denounce Hezbollah, which is a terrorist

[23:43] organization. So, in other words, there

[23:45] has to be you you have a litmus test for

[23:47] every leader coming to the United

[23:48] States. What else do they have to agree

[23:50] with us on other things? Because Castro

[23:52] has addressed the United Nations, and I

[23:53] don't recall the head of the Democratic

[23:55] party back then uh condemning Castro, or

[23:58] did he? Did I miss that?

[24:00] >> Laura, we're spending billions and

[24:02] billions of taxpayer dollars, money

[24:05] going to our roads, money that aren't

[24:06] going to our schools or our children.

[24:08] >> All right, let's talk about the Democrat

[24:10] plan since I can't get you to answer the

[24:11] first question. What is the Democrat's

[24:13] plan to keep America safe?

[24:15] >> What's the Democrat's plan to keep

[24:17] America safe today?

[24:18] >> Well, we certainly think we need a new

[24:20] direction in our Iraq policy. The

[24:21] president's stay the course or leave it

[24:23] to the next president. We just don't

[24:25] understand that, but what's the plan?

[24:27] >> We think we need a we need responsible

[24:29] redeployments and we need a change in

[24:31] strategy. We also think we need to deal

[24:33] with the threats that Iran and North

[24:34] Korea have become. I mean, you know,

[24:36] he's taken his eye off the ball North

[24:38] Korea. Well, look at how Iran has

[24:40] increased their nuclear capabilities.

[24:41] Look at the threat that North Korea has

[24:43] now become. We've got to get re-engaged.

[24:45] We can't be outsourcing our security and

[24:48] our issues with North Korea to the

[24:49] Chinese. We've got to be engaged.

[24:52] >> Because I thought we were supposed to

[24:53] work with the global community and now

[24:55] you're saying the Democrats are not

[24:56] working with the global community and

[24:58] all these pieces.

[24:58] >> Absolutely. That's not what I'm saying,

[25:00] Laura. What I'm saying is we need a

[25:02] foreign policy that's tough and smart,

[25:04] that is engaged. Why is it that this

[25:06] president has ignored the Middle East

[25:07] for the last six years? Look at the

[25:09] mess. Look at the crisis that we're

[25:10] facing right now.

[25:10] >> So, it's our fault that Hezbollah

[25:12] attacked Israel.

[25:13] >> That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying

[25:14] that it's time for the United States to

[25:16] get engaged in our foreign policy. And

[25:17] we think we need a foreign policy that's

[25:19] tough and smart. We also think though we

[25:21] need a real security policy that deals

[25:22] with threats overseas, but right here at

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[25:26] the 9/11 Commission recommendations that

[25:28] keep our communities safe as well. We

[25:30] want to secure our ports and we want to

[25:32] secure our borders. That's what

[25:33] Democrats are offering.

[25:34] >> All right. The Democrats are for

[25:35] shutting down the borders. Karen, we

[25:37] appreciate it. Thanks for joining us.

[25:39] And plenty more ahead as a factor moves

[25:41] along this evening. O'Reilly calls on

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[25:45] in a can'tmiss factor flashback.

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[28:57] tonight, the district attorney in

[28:58] Durham, North Carolina, made quite a

[29:00] name for himself when he brought rape

[29:02] charges against three Duke lacrosse

[29:03] players. At first, Mike Knifong beat the

[29:06] press drums about how strong the case

[29:08] was. Then suddenly he disappeared. Today

[29:11] he spoke out but said little. Now this

[29:13] has made some people including O'Reilly

[29:16] suspicious that there may not be a case

[29:18] here after all.

[29:21] >> Do you agree with me that there's going

[29:22] to be any winners here? The likelihood

[29:25] of convincion. Just think about the

[29:27] Michael Jackson case and how much more

[29:28] evidence there was against Jackson. He

[29:30] walked out of the courtroom acquitted.

[29:32] Here there's no way on this earth as it

[29:34] stands that these guys will ever be

[29:37] convicted. and this woman will be torn

[29:39] to pieces in the process. Am I wrong?

[29:42] >> I think you're wrong. I think, you know,

[29:43] I mean, OJ Simpson, would you say don't

[29:45] bring that to trial? There was a lot of

[29:46] evidence against him. I I think we

[29:48] haven't heard from the woman yet, Bill.

[29:50] And I think that, you know, we talk

[29:51] about just basic humanity and justice.

[29:53] You should hear from the purpose of

[29:55] bringing the child. I don't know that.

[29:57] You don't know that.

[29:57] >> Well, her father says she's an absolute

[29:59] mess and um she has a history of making

[30:04] accusations like this and then not

[30:06] following through. I will predict honest

[30:07] broadcast. This woman is never going to

[30:10] testify. Do you disagree with me, Mr.

[30:12] Wayne?

[30:13] >> I don't disagree with you, Bill. I think

[30:14] that that's their way out. Frankly, if

[30:16] she can't withstand the scrutiny of the

[30:19] accusation here, then that's their easy

[30:21] way out. She's not there. They can't

[30:23] bring the case any further than it is.

[30:25] >> When would she have to make a public

[30:26] appearance and start to uh prosecute

[30:30] this case aggressively? When would that

[30:31] happen? Well, the defense can force the

[30:34] government's hand on this and they can

[30:35] say, "Look, this is a faulty lineup or a

[30:37] faulty ID and she has to come forward in

[30:40] court and make an accusation and she has

[30:43] to make a positive identification." So,

[30:45] they can force his hand on that by

[30:47] filing motions and making sure that she

[30:49] has to come to court.

[30:50] >> Midsummer sometime, midsummer that would

[30:52] happen.

[30:52] >> Probably probably midsummer sometime,

[30:55] but they want it to happen before this

[30:56] ever has to go to trial. If he gets to,

[30:58] you know, hide her until trial, this

[31:00] goes on forever.

[31:01] >> What I'm trying to get at,

[31:03] >> yeah,

[31:03] >> is that this is going to be bad for the

[31:07] accuser. No matter what, her life is

[31:10] going to be destroyed.

[31:12] >> But Bill, that's a that's one of the

[31:13] reasons that women generally don't bring

[31:15] rape charges. such a small percentage of

[31:17] women who have been sexually assaulted

[31:19] who take the risk one of ruining some

[31:21] guy's life but secondly ruining their

[31:23] own lives because so much trash so much

[31:26] attack is going to come on them in terms

[31:28] of their credibility we've already seen

[31:29] this in the case on this

[31:30] >> so if you have no chance of winning Juan

[31:32] if you have no chance of winning why

[31:34] would you put yourself through it

[31:36] >> wait apparently she feels that she was

[31:39] assaulted in the most animalistic way

[31:43] look finished this point you had 1,300

[31:46] pages of discovery presented to the

[31:48] defense team. The defense team, as you

[31:50] just heard from Miss Wayne, has come

[31:51] back and asked to suppress evidence with

[31:53] a five-page affidavit. They have

[31:55] cherrypicked information. Now, they have

[31:57] the

[31:57] >> I don't want to try the case. That's for

[31:59] the other cable shows to do, but I'm

[32:01] going to I'm going to tell you there's

[32:02] no way on earth, unless there's a

[32:05] smoking gun someplace, all right, that

[32:08] this woman wins a case. Am I wrong,

[32:10] Lisa?

[32:11] >> I I think you're absolutely right. And

[32:13] the reality is, I totally disagree with

[32:15] Juan's statistics about the allegations,

[32:18] but the reality is you have to have a

[32:20] credible and believable witness. And you

[32:22] know what? Her life should fall apart if

[32:24] she's wrongly accusing these guys.

[32:26] >> Well, all right. I mean, I don't want to

[32:27] even get into that. I All I want to tell

[32:29] everybody is number one, I predict this

[32:31] case is history. Um, it's not going to

[32:34] come to trial because the accuser is not

[32:38] going to testify. not going to put

[32:40] herself in that position to have all of

[32:43] her motion. Look, there's allegations.

[32:45] She said she drank heavily, that she

[32:49] engaged in some kind of prostitutional

[32:51] activity before she got there, that a

[32:54] policeman discovered her drunk in a car.

[32:57] I mean, Juan Juan, it is not going to

[33:00] happen. It's not

[33:01] >> Well, Bill, you know what? You know

[33:02] what? You don't have I don't think that

[33:04] you or or Lisa or I want to be part of

[33:06] any mob that's running to one side

[33:09] another when this case first started. I

[33:10] think there were a lot of people who

[33:11] rushed to judgment. That email came out

[33:14] that email came out about one of the

[33:16] boys writing about dismembering and

[33:18] skinning people and people oh terrible

[33:19] that the boys are guilty. That was wrong

[33:21] and it's wrong now to rush in the other

[33:22] direction because we haven't heard from

[33:24] the woman and we haven't heard from the

[33:26] DA. If there's one thing you said right

[33:28] it'd be good to hear from the DA. and he

[33:30] hasn't said anything and and now it's

[33:33] critical mass.

[33:34] >> And up next, why are some Latinos

[33:36] claiming that an Englishonly proposal is

[33:39] unamerican? We're going to have that

[33:41] heated debate when we come back.

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[33:57] Good evening everyone. I'm Darby Dunn.

[33:59] Hezbollah fighters are packing a new

[34:02] weapon that's reaching deeper into

[34:04] Israel. Fox News correspondent Caroline

[34:06] Shiveley is live at the Israeli Lebanese

[34:09] border. Caroline,

[34:12] hi there, Darby. There has been no letup

[34:13] in the fighting here. Israeli soldiers

[34:15] say they killed 26 Hezbollah guerillas

[34:18] on Friday. Those gorillas fought back

[34:20] with a new rocket. Hezbollah videotaped

[34:23] the launching and fed it out to TV

[34:25] stations throughout Lebanon. Those

[34:28] rockets went all the way to AUA, the

[34:29] deepest yet that they've gone into

[34:31] Israel about 30 miles south of the

[34:33] border. They didn't send out the video

[34:35] where Israeli warplanes came in and

[34:37] blasted that rocket launcher to pieces a

[34:39] few hours later. The rockets hit in a

[34:41] field and injured no one, but they are

[34:43] much more powerful than the Kushias that

[34:45] fall here an average of about a 100

[34:47] times a day. These were packed with

[34:49] about 220 pounds of explosives a piece.

[34:52] Back in the US, President Bush and

[34:53] Britain's Tony Blair announced they want

[34:55] a United Nations resolution introduced

[34:57] next week that calls for a ceasefire and

[35:00] an international peacekeeping force in

[35:02] southern Lebanon. Secretary of State

[35:03] Condisa Rice is spending the weekend in

[35:06] the region trying to find something that

[35:08] Lebanon and Israel can agree to and

[35:10] hammer out a peace deal. Reporting live

[35:12] in Kirchmona, Israel, I'm Caroline

[35:14] Shiveley. Darby, back to you.

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[38:29] >> And thanks for staying with us. I'm

[38:31] Laura Ingram in for Bill O'Reilly. And

[38:33] in the Factor follow-up segment tonight,

[38:35] this week, a congressional committee

[38:38] considered making English our country's

[38:40] official language.

[38:41] >> Oo, how controversial. Anyway, joining

[38:43] us now from San Francisco is John

[38:46] Trasvina of the Mexican-American Legal

[38:48] Defense and Education Fund, who is

[38:50] against the idea, and Republican

[38:52] Congressman Mark Sudter. He's the

[38:54] co-sponsor of the measure in question.

[38:56] Gentlemen, thanks for being with us.

[38:58] >> Good to be with you.

[38:58] >> Nice to be with you, Laura. Um, John,

[39:00] let's start with you. I've heard uh some

[39:02] Democrats in Congress uh call this

[39:04] proposal to make English the official US

[39:07] language discriminatory.

[39:10] John, do you believe it's

[39:11] discriminatory?

[39:12] >> It leads to discrimination and Congress

[39:14] really ought to get to work before they

[39:16] leave session before the summer and pass

[39:19] immigration legislation, but also

[39:21] provide more adult English classes. We

[39:23] have a great disparity in the US because

[39:25] we have kids who in school every year 12

[39:29] grade 1 through 12 you have to know you

[39:31] have to go to English class but yet for

[39:33] adults there are no adult English

[39:34] classes. Latino immigrants and other

[39:36] immigrants want to learn English. So you

[39:38] don't we don't need a law saying it's

[39:40] good to learn English. We need English

[39:41] classes. So, so in other words, for the

[39:45] entire history of our country, when

[39:47] people came to our country, assimilated

[39:50] gladly, learned the language, their kids

[39:52] ended up learning the language. Was that

[39:55] some type of unfair system then? Uh,

[39:57] John, I don't I don't get it.

[40:00] >> No, back back in the 20s and 30s or

[40:02] early, we had night classes. The

[40:03] traditional night classes, right?

[40:04] >> It's more that the federal government

[40:05] has to pay for it.

[40:07] >> It could be churches. We we could

[40:09] support faith-based groups doing it,

[40:10] employers doing it, could be any number

[40:12] of means. We're just not doing it.

[40:14] >> Congressman, uh, he says that the

[40:16] federal government and other groups

[40:17] should be doing this, uh, educating of

[40:19] people. But, um, why is this taking

[40:22] Congress so long? I bet if you did a

[40:23] poll, a referendum of all the American

[40:26] people on whether English should be the

[40:27] official language, I would be surprised

[40:29] if that result wasn't about 95% of the

[40:31] country would say yes, it should be.

[40:34] >> Well, even 75% of Hispanics believe so.

[40:36] 27 countries have English as official

[40:38] language. You'd think if it's good

[40:39] enough for Batswana, it'd be good enough

[40:41] for the United States. It's laughable

[40:42] that we haven't done it. Clearly, as we

[40:45] move towards things like potentially

[40:47] work permits and so on, if you can't be

[40:48] fluid fluent in English, why should you

[40:51] be allowed to work here? Most people

[40:53] when they would go live in another

[40:54] country would wouldn't even think of

[40:56] going there without their language. You

[40:58] wouldn't go to Mexico. Their official

[40:59] language is Spanish. There's hundreds of

[41:01] thousands of Americans who live in

[41:03] Mexico. They're not all insulted that

[41:05] their language is Spanish.

[41:07] >> John, do you think that the English

[41:10] language is unifying and strengthens our

[41:15] country, the United States of America,

[41:16] or do you think the language itself can

[41:19] be divisive because it separates people?

[41:22] >> It's not the language. It's the official

[41:23] English laws that are divisive. And we

[41:25] should never rationalize taking away

[41:27] people's rights because some other

[41:29] countries do it a different way. This is

[41:31] the United States and we believe in

[41:33] freedom. We believe in opportunity.

[41:36] >> English United States though, John. So I

[41:38] think people across the country are

[41:40] listening to this tonight. I promise

[41:41] you. And they're and they're saying,

[41:42] "How is this even a controversy that

[41:45] English uh is should be the official

[41:47] language?" It is the official language.

[41:49] >> It's not a controversy. It's it's a

[41:51] shame when there are not adult English

[41:53] classes. That's what we need. Not Not

[41:55] these laws taking away people's rights.

[41:58] English classes. But John,

[41:59] >> that's something Congress could do.

[42:01] >> How could we possibly make it in our

[42:02] country to become the world's sole

[42:04] superpower, frankly, the savior of the

[42:06] rest of the world if indeed, you know,

[42:08] we've been so unfair to people coming to

[42:10] this country. I mean, they've figured

[42:11] out how to learn the language through

[42:13] friends or family members or churches or

[42:15] school. I mean, they figured it out.

[42:16] >> They they never needed a law to tell

[42:18] them that. We haven't had this law on

[42:20] the book,

[42:20] >> but they didn't have to deal with

[42:21] political correctness. And Congressman,

[42:23] here's what I see happening across this

[42:25] country is we've become a hyphenated

[42:27] America. We're Mexican-Americans. We're,

[42:30] you know, we're African-Americans. We're

[42:32] Polish Americans. We're

[42:33] Italian-Americans. And, you know, I'm

[42:34] proud. I'm half Polish. I'm proud of my

[42:36] heritage. But I'm an American first. And

[42:38] and shouldn't we get away from this

[42:40] whole hyphenated thing?

[42:41] >> Well, that's what I hear from most of

[42:43] the immigrants who've come to the United

[42:44] States. There's 82 languages at

[42:46] Southside High School in Fort Wayne. in

[42:48] the center of the country in Indiana. We

[42:49] have kids from every continent there. We

[42:52] have the highest population of of

[42:54] Burmese. We have Chinese, we have

[42:56] Koreans, we have people from all over

[42:57] the world. If you don't have a common

[42:59] language, how in the world are we going

[43:01] to do this? Our rate of assimilation is

[43:03] increasing the number of people coming

[43:05] into the United States. And if we don't

[43:06] have a common language, we're going to

[43:07] bulcanize just like other countries have

[43:10] around the world and and break up. Of

[43:11] course, groups that have come in here.

[43:13] My family when they came in spoke

[43:14] German. My church spoke German for many

[43:16] years, but they learned English because

[43:18] they knew to succeed in America, to be

[43:20] part of America, you had to have the

[43:21] goal of immersing in English as fast as

[43:24] possible.

[43:24] >> And John, I'm not trying to pig pile on

[43:26] you tonight just because I happen to

[43:27] agree more with the congressman, but I I

[43:29] I know that you have the uh the

[43:31] interests of of Mexican-Americans. Um

[43:34] you take their interest to heart. You

[43:36] you believe in in their future. And if

[43:38] you believe in their future, isn't it

[43:40] better to actually set the bar really

[43:42] high? And if English is the official

[43:44] language, it encourages more people to

[43:46] assimilate quickly rather than staying

[43:48] in bulcanized areas or keeping to

[43:50] yourself and not maybe mixing with other

[43:52] people. Uh as is very positive in this

[43:54] country. So why not do that? It's

[43:56] actually good for Mexican-Americans.

[43:58] >> Laura, we support the interests of all

[44:00] Americans and Latino immigrants are no

[44:02] different than the other immigrants

[44:03] who've come here, learned English.

[44:05] Latinos are learning English today, but

[44:08] they do need the adult English classes

[44:09] to do that. My grandparents didn't

[44:11] didn't uh didn't have adult English

[44:13] classes paid for by the government or

[44:15] any federal government. No, they didn't.

[44:17] No, they didn't.

[44:18] >> These immigrant these immigrants are

[44:19] taxpayers, too. It's their tax dollars

[44:21] that go to

[44:22] >> Everybody wants to come to the United

[44:23] States of America. And for some reason,

[44:26] everyone wants to come here, but then

[44:27] when they come here, you know, too often

[44:29] it's like America has to do this, this,

[44:31] this, and this to uh [music] to

[44:32] accommodate my needs and interests. I

[44:34] don't get that. Anyway, gentlemen, I

[44:35] appreciate it. Spirited debate. And

[44:37] coming up, looks like charges are going

[44:39] to be dropped against a New York City DJ

[44:42] who threatened to sexually abuse his

[44:44] rivals 4-year-old daughter. That story

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[48:05] >> And in the second Factor flashback

[48:07] segment tonight, The Factor reported a

[48:09] few months ago that a New York City DJ,

[48:11] Troy Terrain, or DJ Star as he's called,

[48:14] made on air sexually charged comments

[48:17] about his rivals four-year-old daughter.

[48:19] Nice guy. He was fired from his job and

[48:21] charged with endangering the welfare of

[48:23] a child. But now prosecutors are saying

[48:26] charges could be dropped if DJ Star

[48:29] performs some community service and

[48:31] stays away from the child and her

[48:33] parents. Bill recently spoke with the

[48:35] little girl's mother.

[48:38] >> How did you learn about this?

[48:40] >> I heard it with my own two ears.

[48:41] >> Oh, you heard him?

[48:42] >> I heard.

[48:42] >> And he's a [clears throat] rival of your

[48:44] husband who's a DJ on another channel.

[48:45] Is that right?

[48:46] >> Yes. Yes.

[48:47] >> And he routinely attacks your husband

[48:49] and your family. Up until this point, he

[48:52] hadn't made such a big deal out of

[48:55] attacking my husband. This came out of

[48:59] the clear blue sky. I don't know what

[49:02] provoked him to do this. The only thing

[49:05] that I'm concerned with now is the

[49:07] safety of my children.

[49:08] >> How has it affected your children and

[49:10] your family?

[49:12] >> It's affected us in the greatest way. My

[49:15] children, they go to school. My daughter

[49:18] is four, my son is two, and they go to

[49:20] school. And now I had to contact her

[49:23] school and let them know that security

[49:26] has to be heightened. They have to keep

[49:28] an extra eye on my children. I had to

[49:30] tell my daughter that she can't go

[49:32] outside and play with the other children

[49:34] at lunchtime. She has to stay inside.

[49:36] And I have to watch my daughter cry as a

[49:38] result of that because now she feels

[49:40] like an outcast. I had to take my

[49:42] daughter out of soccer. This was

[49:43] supposed to be her first week of kitty

[49:45] soccer. And now she can't go.

[49:48] >> Because you're afraid of what?

[49:50] >> Because I'm I'm particularly afraid now

[49:53] that he's gonna carry out his threats to

[49:55] >> I don't I think this guy is just, you

[49:57] know, a disturbed guy. I don't think

[49:58] he'd do anything like that because he

[50:00] knows he could never get away with it.

[50:02] These guys are usually cowards. But what

[50:04] I'm worried about are the other kids

[50:05] knowing what's going on, you know, and

[50:07] that your child then separated for

[50:10] attention, negative attention, because

[50:12] four-year-olds don't understand any of

[50:13] this stuff. All they know is that

[50:15] there's something going on. Does your

[50:16] daughter know what's going on?

[50:18] >> Absolutely not. I would never expose her

[50:21] to those threats. I would never let her

[50:23] know what type of situation that she's

[50:25] been.

[50:25] >> All she knows is that there's something

[50:27] different. She doesn't know why.

[50:29] >> Exactly.

[50:29] >> All right. I'm sorry you have to go

[50:30] through this, Miss Casey. Now, Mr. Lou,

[50:32] um, this guy stayed on the air. Again,

[50:35] Clear Channel, major corporation in this

[50:37] country. He stayed on the air until you

[50:39] blew the whistle on him. Tell me about

[50:40] that.

[50:41] >> He he stayed on the air. They let him

[50:43] continue to spew this violence and hate

[50:46] for many, many days until he was shut

[50:49] down. And we're happy that he's been

[50:50] fired, but more has to be done because

[50:53] otherwise it'll just go on with someone

[50:55] else. This is a major corporation. They

[50:59] hired

[51:01] Troy Terrain after he had been fired by

[51:05] the rival station for making totally

[51:07] inexcusable remarks over the airwaves.

[51:10] Clear Channel went ahead and sought this

[51:12] person in an attempt to boost their own

[51:15] ratings and therefore boost their

[51:17] corporate profits. And that's the

[51:19] problem.

[51:19] >> You know, the shock jocks and the smear

[51:21] misters are everywhere. But what I'm

[51:22] what I'm really disturbed about is that

[51:25] they let him go on the air after after

[51:28] he threatened to molest

[51:29] >> That's right.

[51:30] >> a four-year-old child. And they didn't

[51:32] get him off the air until you held a a

[51:34] press conference. Did you talk to the

[51:36] company?

[51:36] >> We have talked to the company. And it's

[51:38] also the bravery of GIA who came forward

[51:40] with this. You know,

[51:42] >> you're you're hitting the problem on the

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[51:47] these companies like Clear Channel

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[55:19] the media doesn't report. On yesterday's

[55:22] Factor, an independent military analyst

[55:24] responded to a front page article in the

[55:26] Washington Post that claimed that morale

[55:29] was low in Iraq and troops were

[55:31] frustrated.

[55:33] Yeah, it's hot. It's 120 degrees and

[55:34] people shooting at you, but so it's not

[55:36] a lot of fun, but the key is that the

[55:39] troops understand that this is an

[55:41] important mission. It's uncomfortable,

[55:43] but they understand that coming home

[55:45] just cutting and running would be a

[55:47] serious risk to their families, this

[55:49] nation.

[55:50] >> And joining us now from Philadelphia is

[55:52] Sergeant Michael Sorrow, who was wounded

[55:55] during combat in Iraq. And Sergeant

[55:57] Sorrow is a Purple Heart recipient and

[55:59] is too humble to admit it, but has been

[56:01] recommended for the Bronze Star.

[56:04] Sergeant, thank you so much for joining

[56:05] us.

[56:06] >> Thanks for having me, Laura.

[56:07] >> Uh, Sergeant, I want to know about your

[56:10] personal story. uh you were a Marine and

[56:12] you were out of the Marine Corps, but

[56:14] then you signed back up for service and

[56:17] you ended up going to Iraq. Tell us

[56:19] about it.

[56:20] >> Uh that's correct. I uh I served with 17

[56:24] uh in the US Marines. Uh my time had

[56:27] been up, my four years of service was

[56:29] over in late 2002.

[56:32] And at this point in time, we were not

[56:33] yet aware of the buildup that was going

[56:35] to uh be taking place in Kuwait. So my

[56:39] time had ended. Um, by the time I got

[56:42] out, my unit had then moved off to

[56:45] Kuwait, prepared for the invasion. And

[56:47] at that point, it was time for me to

[56:48] find uh some form of unit I could join

[56:51] and uh deploy with, and it was the

[56:53] Pennsylvania National Guard.

[56:55] >> And tell us about uh the incident in

[56:57] which you got so badly injured. I know

[56:59] your leg is in a stabilization cage

[57:02] holding it together, all the bones

[57:03] together, because there was some uh

[57:05] pretty bad shattering that happened.

[57:07] >> Uh that's correct. Um the incident

[57:10] itself occurred on a routine patrol uh

[57:13] in the city of Beiji which is just

[57:15] outside Trip. We were um going down the

[57:18] main road and about 500 meters into that

[57:21] patrol. Uh two anti-tank mines were

[57:23] remote detonated under uh my V. This uh

[57:28] this took the front of the vehicle off.

[57:29] We crashed off the road and at that

[57:31] point is when the firefight began

[57:34] between insurgents uh from the rooftops

[57:36] and buildings onto our position. It was

[57:39] approximately 25 minutes into this

[57:42] firefight where I was wounded. Um I was

[57:45] shot with an AK-47 through the leg and

[57:48] uh this is pretty much how I ended up to

[57:51] uh be where I'm at right now. And I know

[57:52] you're recuperating now and you have

[57:55] been put in for the bronze star and I

[57:57] know that is such an amazing honor and

[57:59] you're so humble you didn't even want to

[58:00] talk about it but I had to mention that

[58:02] but there are a thousand people who've

[58:04] been um uh received the bronze star with

[58:06] valor in the last three years but I I

[58:09] just don't hear about the stories of of

[58:11] their bravery uh Sergeant and I was

[58:13] wondering how you felt about that. I

[58:14] mean isn't isn't it important for the

[58:16] American people to know these stories?

[58:18] This is very important for the American

[58:20] people to know. Uh these are individuals

[58:22] that have put themselves in such

[58:24] inherent danger. Uh to reach this level

[58:27] of um an this level of an award, uh you

[58:31] have to put yourself in a major danger,

[58:34] place your team um ahead of your own

[58:37] life. And uh these are people's stories

[58:39] that need to be told because these type

[58:41] of awards just aren't given out. um

[58:44] their stories are much more important to

[58:46] me than any car bomb or killing that

[58:48] goes on throughout that country. Uh

[58:50] these are these people are due their

[58:52] right recognition.

[58:54] >> And I know it's been a tough uh year for

[58:56] you of of rehab and rehabilitation, but

[58:58] would you do it all over again?

[59:00] >> You know, I would Marines would always

[59:02] do it again,

[59:03] >> Sergeant. We're going to make sure that

[59:05] your story and the stories of so many in

[59:07] Iraq and Afghanistan are told, and we

[59:09] really appreciate you joining us. Thank

[59:11] you for your service. Thank you for

[59:12] having me.

[59:13] >> And that's it for us today. As always,

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