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[0:00] I mean a

[0:02] >> different messenger.

[0:03] >> We were hearing a a growing chorus of

[0:05] voices within the military saying this

[0:08] just isn't working with this guy in

[0:10] charge.

[0:11] >> A prominent newspaper aimed directly at

[0:14] military personnel wants to give Donald

[0:16] Rumsfeld the pink slip.

[0:20] >> And we understand he's distancing

[0:22] himself from you lately. We're here to

[0:24] make sure that doesn't happen. We're

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[0:49] Welcome to the newsroom. Your connection

[0:50] to the world, the web, and what's

[0:52] happening right now. I'm Carol Lynn.

[0:54] You've been busy today, so let's get you

[0:56] plugged in.

[0:59] Starting with the headlines, guilty or

[1:01] not guilty. In just a few hours, a judge

[1:04] in Baghdad will hand down the first

[1:06] verdicts in Saddam Hussein's trial. Our

[1:08] John Roberts says Iraqi police and US

[1:10] troops are bracing for a possibly

[1:12] explosive reaction.

[1:15] >> Nobody's clear at this point. It it

[1:17] could be that if Saddam Hussein is given

[1:18] the death penalty that the Sunnis could

[1:20] erupt. Some some people are warning and

[1:22] not to say that this would happen, but

[1:24] some people are warning that the country

[1:25] could tip into allout civil war because

[1:27] of that verdict.

[1:29] >> Donald Rumsfeld must go. It's not an

[1:31] uncommon stance, but this time it's

[1:33] appearing in the pages of the Army

[1:35] Times, an unofficial military newspaper.

[1:38] We'll have reaction from the Pentagon

[1:39] and the White House in just a minute.

[1:42] The picture isn't getting any rosier for

[1:44] Pastor Ted Haggard. Make that former

[1:46] pastor. Today, the 14,000 strong New

[1:49] Life Church ejected Haggard as their

[1:52] leader. He's been caught up in a growing

[1:54] sex scandal. A full report in 10

[1:56] minutes.

[1:58] And more church news. 500 years of

[2:00] Anglican history rewritten today. The

[2:03] new head of the US Episcopal Church is

[2:05] Katherine Shy. She is the first woman to

[2:07] hold that post. She now leads about two

[2:10] and a half million people.

[2:12] Election day just two days away and the

[2:15] president is stumping for GOP candidates

[2:17] all weekend. He hit 10 states before the

[2:19] polls opened Tuesday morning. Sources

[2:21] tell the Associated Press the White

[2:23] House is planning for possible

[2:24] Democratic gains in the House. And now

[2:27] we want to hear from you. Iraq, gay

[2:29] rights, the economy. What issue is

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[2:36] We're going to air some of your

[2:37] responses later this hour.

[2:40] And happy birthday, Madame First Lady.

[2:42] She and the Bush family are celebrating

[2:44] at their Texas ranch tonight. The

[2:46] president, playing it safe, refuses to

[2:48] tell reporters his wife's age, but he

[2:50] did say, quote, "Were born in the same

[2:52] year, and I turned 60."

[2:59] Now, it's your turn to choose the news.

[3:01] Is there a particular story that you

[3:02] want to hear more about? All you have to

[3:04] do is email us at [email protected] or

[3:07] send us your video or webcam suggestion

[3:09] at cnn.com/exchange

[3:11] and we are going to get you the answer

[3:13] within the hour. Now, in just 4 hours, a

[3:17] Baghdad court opens session for an

[3:19] historic announcement. A verdict in the

[3:21] trial of Sodom Hussein. Security is

[3:24] tight. A curfew is now in place. If

[3:26] Hussein is convicted, prosecutors want

[3:28] the death penalty. Now, right here in

[3:31] the United States, polls show Iraq is

[3:33] the top issue as people get ready for

[3:35] Tuesday's election. Democrats say it's

[3:37] all about the war. Republicans disagree.

[3:40] Meanwhile, there's a new call for

[3:42] Defense Secretary Rumsfeld to go. This

[3:44] time from a source read by virtually

[3:47] everyone in uniform. The latest call for

[3:50] President Bush to fire Donald Rumsfeld

[3:52] comes from the Military Times Media

[3:54] Group. It publishes the Army Times and

[3:56] other periodicals covering the armed

[3:58] forces. In an online editorial, the

[4:00] editors write, "Rumsfeld has lost

[4:03] credibility with the uniformed

[4:04] leadership, with the troops, and with

[4:06] Congress, and with the public at large."

[4:09] Well, the president is said to have just

[4:10] shrugged off the editorial, but it seems

[4:13] just about everyone else has something

[4:14] to say.

[4:16] The managing editor of the Army Times

[4:18] says the timing of the editorial has

[4:20] nothing to do with Tuesday's election

[4:22] and everything to do with Rumsfeld's

[4:24] performance and the president's latest

[4:26] promise to keep Rumsfeld on the job.

[4:29] >> We were hearing a a growing chorus of

[4:32] voices within the military saying this

[4:35] just isn't working with this guy in

[4:37] charge.

[4:37] >> The White House was quick to disagree.

[4:40] Press Secretary Tony Snow called the

[4:41] editorials a shabby piece of work. As

[4:45] for the timing, just two days until the

[4:47] election. Quote, "You've got to be

[4:49] kidding me." Snow said, "I mean, if they

[4:51] didn't want it to influence the

[4:53] elections, they could have published it

[4:55] Wednesday." The Army Times publisher

[4:57] insists his staff simply responded to

[4:59] what reporters are learning. And

[5:00] >> I think that we hear things that uh that

[5:03] we suspect that Rumsfeld, Secretary

[5:05] Rumsfeld also hears. Uh the difference

[5:08] is that uh I think that we're paying

[5:10] attention to them.

[5:12] >> The military sharply disagrees.

[5:14] According to a Pentagon statement, the

[5:16] new chorus of criticism noted by the

[5:18] editorials is actually old news and does

[5:21] not include commanders in the field who

[5:23] remain committed to the mission.

[5:26] The editorial offered a new argument for

[5:28] Rumsfeld's critics. A top Democrat

[5:30] pounced on it.

[5:32] When we have a uniform uh statement and

[5:35] a comment that is applicable to all the

[5:38] services that they've lost confidence in

[5:40] the Secretary of Defense, it's really

[5:42] time for that Secretary of Defense uh to

[5:45] go

[5:46] >> all the services. Well, the Military

[5:48] Times publishes the Army Times, Navy

[5:50] Times, Air Force Times, and Marine Corps

[5:53] Times. Now, the editorial is already on

[5:56] all four websites. The media group is

[5:58] owned by Guanette, the same company that

[6:00] owns USA Today. The papers have no

[6:02] official ties to the military, but

[6:04] that's their only beat. The papers are

[6:07] distributed on bases worldwide with a

[6:10] circulation of about 250,000.

[6:13] Now, we are going to have complete

[6:14] coverage of the Saddam Hussein trial

[6:15] from Baghdad in about 25 minutes. Also,

[6:18] my conversation with CNN's John Roberts

[6:20] and a report from our Anish Raman at the

[6:23] bottom of the hour. In the meantime, a

[6:25] top church leader out of a job and in

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[6:30] And did you ever have sex with him?

[6:32] >> No, I did not.

[6:33] >> Ted Haggard's denial leads to his

[6:35] dismissal. We're following all the new

[6:37] developments live from Colorado next.

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[10:39] evangelical leader. The Reverend Ted

[10:41] Haggard has been forced out of the

[10:42] church he started more than 20 years

[10:44] ago. CNN Shawn Calebs is following the

[10:46] story from Colorado Springs, Colorado.

[10:48] Sean, we were talking with uh Dileia

[10:50] Gallagher, our faith and values

[10:51] correspondent. She says evangelical

[10:53] sources are absolutely shocked about

[10:56] this story.

[10:58] It

[10:58] >> shocked that it unfolded so quickly as

[11:01] well. Just think about it. A matter of

[11:03] days ago, Ted Haggard was at the

[11:04] pinnacle of his profession. someone who

[11:06] even had the ear of the president of the

[11:08] United States. Now, for years preaching

[11:10] from the pulpit here at the New Life

[11:11] Church in Colorado Springs, he routinely

[11:13] warned against the dangers of lying,

[11:15] drug abuse, and infidelity. Well, a

[11:17] matter of hours ago, an oversight

[11:18] committee ruled that quote, "Haggard's

[11:21] moral failings led to his undoing."

[11:24] The end came in a six paragraph

[11:26] statement from the New Life Church

[11:28] overseer board that the Reverend Ted

[11:30] Haggard created himself. The four

[11:32] members saying, "Our investigation and

[11:35] Pastor Haggard's public statements have

[11:37] proven without a doubt that he has

[11:39] committed sexually immoral conduct."

[11:42] Later saying, "We have decided the most

[11:44] positive and productive direction for

[11:46] our church is his dismissal and

[11:48] removal." Rob Brendle worked as an

[11:51] associate pastor here for 10 years with

[11:53] Haggard.

[11:53] >> Our senior pastor uh has um willingly

[11:57] and humbly submitted himself to the

[11:59] authority of the board of overseers.

[12:01] They conducted a an investigation into

[12:04] the alleged indiscretions and have come

[12:06] to a conclusion uh in a promptly and

[12:10] we're grateful for them.

[12:11] >> The accusations that brought Haggard

[12:13] down came Wednesday from a former male

[12:15] prostitute in Denver, Mike Jones. After

[12:18] first denying he knew Jones, Haggard

[12:20] later admitted buying crystal meth

[12:22] through Jones. Haggard says he never

[12:25] used the drugs, insisting he threw them

[12:27] away. Jones also alleges he and Haggard

[12:30] had a three-year sexual relationship,

[12:33] but he failed a lie detector test on the

[12:35] subject.

[12:36] >> We're so grateful that he failed the

[12:38] polygraph test this morning.

[12:40] >> The person who administered the

[12:41] polygraph says Jones was exhausted at

[12:43] the time and he wants to retest him.

[12:46] Hagar denies a sexual relationship. The

[12:49] evangelical minister says he did contact

[12:51] Jones for a massage after a Denver

[12:54] concier recommended Jones as a masseuse.

[12:57] you know, look at the position he's in.

[13:00] Um, what I think is unfortunate is

[13:04] the more of denial that he gives, the

[13:06] messier it looks. I I think what would

[13:09] be best is just he just admit it and and

[13:11] move on. Before being ousted from the

[13:14] New Life Church, Haggard was forced to

[13:16] resign the politically powerful position

[13:18] as president of the National Association

[13:21] of Evangelicals, a group that represents

[13:23] some 30 million Christians nationwide

[13:26] who routinely form a strong and solid

[13:29] voting block. Haggard was at the top of

[13:31] his profession, one of a handful of

[13:33] ministers taking part in a weekly

[13:35] conference call with President Bush or

[13:37] top White House officials. Jones chose

[13:40] the timing just before Tuesday's midterm

[13:42] election to show what he calls the

[13:44] hypocrisy of Haggard and others in the

[13:47] religious right. The issue of gay

[13:49] marriage is on the ballot in Colorado

[13:51] and several other states. Haggard and

[13:53] evangelicals are fighting gay marriage

[13:55] tooth and nail, but it's a battle now

[13:58] that will go on without Haggard in the

[14:00] pulpit.

[14:02] And Haggard's problems may not be over.

[14:04] The Denver police say they are looking

[14:06] into the allegations to see if any

[14:08] crimes have been broken. Now, church

[14:10] leaders told us yesterday they plan to

[14:12] show a videotape message from Haggard at

[14:14] Sunday services. Well, that plan has

[14:17] been scrapped. Instead, now they will

[14:19] read what they are calling a letter of

[14:21] explanation and apology from Haggard.

[14:23] And Carol, we should tell you, we tried

[14:24] to reach uh Reverend Haggard this

[14:26] evening. We were unsuccessful. We're

[14:28] told by the church that he's going to

[14:29] make no comment. And the first people

[14:31] will hear from him that letter tomorrow

[14:33] morning. Sean, do you know if he's hired

[14:34] lawyers yet?

[14:36] >> Don't know if he has hired lawyers. It

[14:38] is a very good question. It wouldn't

[14:39] surprise me. Uh the Denver police, as I

[14:42] mentioned, looking into this. We also

[14:43] talked to the DA's office, uh which is

[14:45] keeping a breast of the situation, but

[14:47] they are not investigating, but clearly

[14:49] the fact that Haggard admitted to buying

[14:51] crystal meth in Denver has got their

[14:53] attention.

[14:53] >> All right, John Calebs live in Colorado

[14:55] Springs. Thank you. Staying on top of

[14:57] this story.

[15:01] In the meantime, we're also accessing

[15:03] stories across America right now. A

[15:05] second gruesome discovery in Columbia,

[15:07] South Carolina. Police have arrested a

[15:10] man suspected of killing three people at

[15:12] an apartment. Their bodies were found

[15:14] last night. This triple killing comes

[15:16] just days after another triple homicide

[15:18] in the same area. Police say though they

[15:21] are not connected.

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[15:57] Hundreds of people gathered today to pay

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[16:28] The nation's first Roman Catholic

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[16:35] moving away from their party. Is history

[16:38] repeating itself? Our senior political

[16:40] analyst Bill Schneider joins us live

[16:42] from New York next. Hey, Bill. And don't

[16:44] forget tonight's last call. Iraq, the

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[19:49] Putting his foot firmly in his mouth,

[19:51] Senator John Ky tried to make a joke

[19:53] about the president, but he flubbed it

[19:55] and made it sound like he was calling

[19:57] people who joined the military dumb.

[19:59] Well, now just two days before the

[20:01] election, K's fellow Democrats are

[20:03] trying to avoid him. It's a case of

[20:05] political distancing, you might say, and

[20:07] we've seen it a lot lately. Let's bring

[20:09] in CNN senior political analyst, Bill

[20:11] Schneider. Bill, you know, just a couple

[20:13] of days, you think the party faithful

[20:15] would stick together, but no. Huh. Well,

[20:16] Carol, it was the gaff of the week and

[20:18] maybe the campaign when John Kerry made

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[20:31] Bob Casey quickly cancelled plans to

[20:33] campaign with Carrie in Pennsylvania.

[20:36] Carrie? Carrie who? No hard feelings,

[20:38] Carrie said. I don't want to be a

[20:40] distraction. And speaking of distancing,

[20:42] a lot of Republican candidates are

[20:44] keeping their distance from President

[20:46] Bush this year, especially if they're in

[20:48] a tight race, like Senator Jim Talent of

[20:51] Missouri, who welcomed President Bush to

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[21:00] it was helpful or harmful for President

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[21:07] one.

[21:11] Bill, also in Pennsylvania, Republican

[21:13] Congressman Jim Gerlock is distancing

[21:15] himself from Bush. And now there's some

[21:18] video on YouTube.com

[21:20] that you shared with us earlier. Tell us

[21:22] more about it.

[21:23] >> Well, Jim Gerlock of Pennsylvania has

[21:25] publicly stated his disagreements with

[21:27] President Bush on issues. So, two

[21:30] Transport Worker Union members made a

[21:33] YouTube video that tries to link the

[21:35] Republican candidate with President

[21:37] Bush.

[21:38] We're in the neighborhood. We thought

[21:40] we'd uh bring President Bush by to say

[21:42] hello. Okay.

[21:43] >> Understand you guys have been uh

[21:44] distance dist distancing yourself from

[21:46] him and he's feeling a little a little

[21:47] dejected.

[21:48] >> Okay. Well, thank you.

[21:50] >> We understand that.

[21:51] >> Oh, okay.

[21:52] >> Congressman votes with him voted with

[21:54] him 79% of the time.

[21:55] >> Uh not the case.

[21:57] >> Not the case.

[21:59] >> That was a paper cutout of President

[22:01] Bush,

[22:02] >> I think. So, that this is a pretty

[22:04] popular clip, too. You know, uh, Bush is

[22:06] hardly the first, uh, president to

[22:07] experience this kind of distancing. What

[22:09] other presidents have have also been

[22:11] kind of dissed by their own?

[22:12] >> Well, not a president, but Al Gore kept

[22:15] his distance from President Bill Clinton

[22:17] in 2000. Gore called Clinton's behavior

[22:19] in the Monica Lewinsky affair quote

[22:22] inexcusable. And a lot of Democrats

[22:24] think Gore made a big mistake distancing

[22:26] himself from Clinton. In 1994, President

[22:29] Clinton was so unpopular, Republican

[22:31] candidates ran ads, morphing their

[22:33] Democratic opponents into President

[22:35] Clinton. Message: a vote for the

[22:37] Democrat is a vote for Bill Clinton. The

[22:39] same point Democrats are trying to make

[22:41] about Republicans and President Bush

[22:44] this year. Now, President Bush's father

[22:46] found himself distanced when he was

[22:48] running for reelection in '92. Some

[22:51] Republican candidates like Senator

[22:52] Alamato of New York portrayed their

[22:55] views as closer to Clinton's than to

[22:57] Bush's. And when Jimmy Carter ran for

[22:59] re-election in 1980, most Democratic

[23:02] members of Congress chose not to attend

[23:04] their party's national convention. They

[23:06] kept their distance. You know, the

[23:08] campaign manager of a very unpopular

[23:11] presidential candidate tells the story

[23:14] of how he telephoned a candidate from

[23:16] his party in Ohio and said, quote, "I

[23:18] have wonderful news for you. We're

[23:20] coming to campaign in your district."

[23:22] "Well, that is wonderful news," the

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[23:28] a minute," the campaign manager said. "I

[23:30] haven't told you when you're coming."

[23:32] "Doesn't matter," the candidate said.

[23:34] "Whenever you show up, I'm going to be

[23:36] in Florida visiting my mother."

[23:37] >> "Well, you got to wonder which party is

[23:39] going to say the dog ate my homework

[23:40] come Wednesday morning." Bill Sch

[23:42] Snider, pleasure to have you tonight.

[23:44] >> Pleasure.

[23:45] >> As everybody knows, Bill Schneider is

[23:46] part of the best political team in

[23:48] television. Now, you can get all your

[23:49] America Votes 2006 information by

[23:51] logging on to CNN.com/ticker.

[23:55] Well, clearly Iraq is a major issue in

[23:57] Tuesday's US elections. But are the US

[24:00] elections a big deal in Iraq? Coming up,

[24:03] John Roberts hits the streets of Baghdad

[24:05] to find out. Also, lawyers killed, the

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[27:17] Election day looming and President Bush

[27:19] is whipping up Republican crowds in 10

[27:21] states just this weekend alone. His

[27:23] focus is in Colorado today. Traditional

[27:25] family values, the gay marriage debate

[27:28] dominates the political talk in that

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[27:54] coverage. Army Times Publications is

[27:56] running a Monday editorial urging Donald

[27:58] Rumsfeld out. The White House is quote

[28:01] shrugging it off and a spokesman says

[28:03] that the editorial is election day

[28:06] timed.

[28:07] Listen up, Big Bird. Organizers of the

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[28:13] ever. Those big balloons will be more

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[28:18] to safer areas off the route. Two people

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[28:26] And did you really think Lance Armstrong

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[28:30] tomorrow the seventime tour to France

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[28:47] And now it's your turn to choose the

[28:49] news. You know, just 30 minutes ago, we

[28:51] asked you to send us your questions

[28:52] regarding stories you haven't seen

[28:53] covered in the media. Well, John Barry

[28:56] wants to know more about a man who was

[28:57] led away in handcuffs at today's rally

[28:59] for Senator George Allen. Well, the man

[29:03] was taken away. Who was taken away was

[29:04] Mike Stark, the same guy who was forced

[29:07] out of a hotel earlier this week after

[29:09] he heckled Senator Allen. Stark is a

[29:12] liberal blogger and he's been shadowing

[29:14] Allen. An Allen supporter accused Stark

[29:16] of pushing him to the ground today and

[29:19] police say Stark was being held in

[29:21] detention in case Allen supporters want

[29:25] to press charges. Want to thank you for

[29:27] your question.

[29:31] Okay, so when Americans go to the polls

[29:33] Tuesday, the world watches that includes

[29:35] Iraq where people believe a change in

[29:37] the American Congress will mean change

[29:39] in their own backyards. Well, earlier I

[29:42] spoke with CNN's John Roberts who's in

[29:43] Baghdad.

[29:45] >> John, have you been able to talk to

[29:47] Iraqis about their sense of uh whether

[29:49] they really care about what happens here

[29:50] in the United States on election day?

[29:53] >> You you know, it's not getting the same

[29:54] sort of saturation attention here a half

[29:56] a world away that it is in the United

[29:58] States. But what happens on Tuesday

[30:00] could have a significant impact, Carol,

[30:02] on what happens on the ground here in

[30:04] Iraq. So people are paying attention to

[30:07] it, even if they're not completely clear

[30:09] on exactly who the players are.

[30:13] >> Though neither is up for reelection, the

[30:15] Iraqis we talked to today still

[30:17] associate the Republican and Democratic

[30:19] parties with George Bush and John Kerry.

[30:23] >> This man, a Christian, says it doesn't

[30:25] matter who wins. If it Bush, it might be

[30:28] better, but at least we know him.

[30:31] Abu

[30:33] Farat, who wouldn't tell us whether he

[30:35] is Shiite or Sunni, says the most

[30:37] important thing for us is that US forces

[30:39] leave Iraq. So any government that takes

[30:41] power, Democrats or Republican, we want

[30:44] them to do us a favor and get the

[30:45] Americans out of Iraq. That's what we're

[30:48] hoping. And we hope John Kerry,

[30:50] Democrats, he means, wins the election.

[30:52] He's better than Bush because Bush

[30:54] destroyed Iraq.

[31:00] And Basim Gazi, a Shiite, told us, "It

[31:02] doesn't matter who wins, but the old

[31:04] policy towards Iraq. We hope it changes

[31:06] and that the occupation ends and there

[31:08] is democracy in Iraq. What's important

[31:11] is the American policy towards Iraq,

[31:14] that the occupation leaves and that Iraq

[31:16] has peace."

[31:18] So you can see from that, Carol, that

[31:20] even though they are aware of the

[31:22] differences between Republicans and

[31:24] Democrats, really what's important for

[31:26] these people is that US troops

[31:28] eventually leave Iraq, leave it to

[31:31] Iraqis.

[31:31] >> So how are they planning on monitoring

[31:33] these elections?

[31:35] >> Well, you know, Carol, they've got all

[31:36] kinds of ways that they can monitor uh

[31:38] the situation around the world. There's

[31:40] there's all kinds of television channels

[31:41] here. There's satellite channels that

[31:42] come in. And they even get CNN

[31:44] International so they could they can

[31:45] watch all of that even though they might

[31:47] not understand the language at CNN. But

[31:49] really what's on their radar screen

[31:51] immediately isn't the November 7th

[31:53] elections. It's the first verdict in the

[31:55] or it's the verdict in the first Saddam

[31:56] Hussein trial which is expected to come

[31:58] out tomorrow. That's something that they

[32:00] really care about.

[32:01] >> All right. And and whatever that verdict

[32:03] may be.

[32:04] >> How do you think that it might be

[32:05] expressed on the streets?

[32:08] >> Well, you see this is the open question.

[32:10] The Iraqi government certainly believes

[32:11] that there could be an uptick in the

[32:13] violence among Sunnis if Saddam Hussein

[32:15] were to be given the death penalty.

[32:16] That's why they've ordered all leave

[32:18] canceled for the Iraqi army, order them

[32:20] back to their barracks. And there's been

[32:22] a curfew declared for tomorrow between

[32:24] 6:00 in the morning, 6:00 at night, 12-h

[32:27] hour period. You lump that together with

[32:29] the regular overnight curfews. And

[32:31] literally nothing will move in this city

[32:33] for about 36 hours or so. They're hoping

[32:35] as in the past when these curfews have

[32:37] been declared that it'll keep a lid on

[32:38] the violence, but nobody's clear at this

[32:40] point. It could be that if Saddam

[32:42] Hussein is given the death penalty that

[32:44] the Sunnis could erupt. Some some people

[32:46] are warning and not to say that this

[32:48] would happen, but some people are

[32:49] warning that the country could tip into

[32:50] allout civil war because of that

[32:52] verdict.

[32:52] >> John, a lot at stake in the next few

[32:54] days. Thank you very much.

[33:00] >> Well, it's already Sunday in Iraq.

[33:02] Judgement day for the former president.

[33:04] The crimes against humanity trial

[33:06] against Saddam Hussein began more than a

[33:08] year ago and a few hours from now. The

[33:11] verdict that may mean the death penalty.

[33:15] A little background now from CNN's

[33:16] Anishh Raman.

[33:19] >> With a future in doubt, Iraq's bloody

[33:21] past is coming back into focus.

[33:24] >> Goodbye, Saddam. Saddam Hussein, the

[33:26] toppled dictator, the president turned

[33:29] prisoner, the defendant on trial for

[33:31] crimes against humanity, now faces

[33:33] judgment, and potentially the death

[33:35] penalty. It's been just over a year

[33:37] since this, the first of perhaps 12

[33:40] trials against Saddam was called to

[33:42] order.

[33:45] This one for the execution of at least

[33:47] 148 men and boys for mass torture for

[33:50] the deportation and imprisonment of

[33:52] thousands after a failed assassination

[33:55] attempt on Saddam back in July 1982.

[34:00] It's a trial that seen a change of the

[34:02] chief judge, the killing of three

[34:04] defense lawyers, a string of boycots by

[34:06] Saddam and his seven codefendants,

[34:08] walkouts by their lawyers, multiple

[34:10] breaks, and multiple reasons for legal

[34:13] doubt.

[34:15] >> Everybody has a right to fair trial and

[34:17] this is a

[34:19] landmark case. This was the opportunity

[34:22] to turn the page and it's an opportunity

[34:25] that really has has has an opportunity

[34:27] that's been missed.

[34:31] >> It was also meant to be an opportunity

[34:33] to move on. The first witness in court

[34:35] stood as the first Iraqi victim to

[34:38] publicly confront the former tyrant,

[34:40] detailing gruesome stories of torture.

[34:42] There were documents bearing Saddam's

[34:44] signature. Evidence prosecutors claimed

[34:47] proving command responsibility and

[34:49] prompting a dramatic statement from

[34:51] Saddam himself.

[34:55] >> Is telling you that he is responsible.

[34:58] >> Saddam's been combative from the start,

[35:00] fueling chaos in the court, challenging

[35:02] the legitimacy of the process and

[35:04] claiming abuse by his capttors. It's

[35:07] never been lost on the defendants that

[35:09] this trial is being watched by a country

[35:11] divided in war and defense lawyers are

[35:14] warning of the consequences.

[35:16] >> If this tribunal end by death benently

[35:20] of the president and his comrades,

[35:22] believe me, the doors of the hell will

[35:26] be open in Iraq and the neighbors of the

[35:29] Arab neighbors of Iraq. Even if Saddam

[35:32] Hussein is sentenced to death, when that

[35:35] would be carried out is anyone's guess.

[35:37] There's an automatic appeals process and

[35:39] no time limit for how long that could

[35:41] take. Anish Ramin, CNN, Baghdad.

[35:45] >> The Sat Hussein verdict is expected to

[35:47] begin at 2:00 a.m. Eastern. Stay tuned

[35:50] to CNN for continuing coverage

[35:51] throughout the morning. As soon as we

[35:53] have the news, we'll be on it with

[35:55] reaction from Baghdad.

[35:58] Meanwhile, 45 hours in counting. Will

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[39:28] >> This year, tight races can turn on

[39:30] almost anything. That's why there's so

[39:32] much concern about electronic voting

[39:33] fraud. But in New York State, they're

[39:36] also concerned with a more low tech type

[39:38] of voter fraud. CNN's Mary Snow takes a

[39:40] look.

[39:42] >> It's a suspicion that's haunted

[39:44] elections past, but could the names of

[39:46] dead people potentially be used in

[39:48] present elections. That's a question

[39:50] posed by the Pikipsy Journal of New

[39:52] York. It did its own analysis of the

[39:54] state's new database of 11 million plus

[39:56] registered voters. We found that in New

[40:00] York State in its voter registration

[40:02] database, there were as many as 77,000

[40:06] people who were deceased but were still

[40:09] registered to vote.

[40:10] >> Reporter John Pharaoh says, "Make no

[40:12] mistake, the analysis is not an exact

[40:15] science." And he says he did not find

[40:16] any fraud, but says his investigation

[40:19] points to the possibility of it. Our

[40:21] report

[40:23] quantifies, if you will, or gives an

[40:25] estimate of for the first time of the

[40:26] potential for fraud involving deceased

[40:30] registered voters in this brand new

[40:31] database.

[40:32] >> That database is only 3 months old. A

[40:35] spokesman for the board of elections was

[40:36] unable to appear on camera for an

[40:38] interview, but told us that he was

[40:40] concerned by the paper's results. He

[40:42] added that the board will complete its

[40:44] own analysis by May of 2007. Doug Chapen

[40:47] of the nonpartisan group

[40:48] electionline.org or says he's not all

[40:50] that surprised by the findings.

[40:52] >> It's worth looking carefully at, but I

[40:54] don't think all 77,000 of those people

[40:56] are going to rise from the dead and

[40:58] descend on the polls on election day.

[41:00] >> Chapen says suspicions about dead people

[41:02] voting are nothing new and swirled in

[41:04] Chicago following the election of John

[41:06] F. Kennedy. Chapen says more often than

[41:08] not, it's more fiction than fact. You

[41:11] hear stories about um perhaps in the

[41:13] 1960 election whether or not uh there

[41:15] were uh some dead voters who turned out

[41:17] to vote uh on election day. Um rarely

[41:19] proven, often repeated. And it's being

[41:22] repeated again in an election year with

[41:24] so many tight races where everything is

[41:26] coming under scrutiny. To illustrate the

[41:28] point that every vote counts, analysts

[41:30] look to the 2004 governor's race in

[41:32] Washington state that had two recounts.

[41:35] Democrat Christine Gregoire was

[41:37] ultimately named the winner with a 133

[41:39] vote victory. Mary Snow, CNN New York.

[41:43] Stay with CNN throughout election day.

[41:45] We're going to bring you live updates

[41:46] from 7 to midnight Eastern. Wolf

[41:49] Blitzer, Anderson Cooper, Paula, and Lou

[41:51] Dos are all part of the best political

[41:54] team on television. Then at midnight,

[41:56] election coverage continues with a

[41:58] special edition of Larry King Live. Hear

[42:00] from the winners and losers across the

[42:02] country.

[42:04] In the meantime, it's time for I Report,

[42:06] uh, your chance to join the world's most

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[42:12] tonight. Jackie Jarus has been tracking

[42:14] all these details. Some viewers are

[42:16] really submitting some terrific photos

[42:18] and videos.

[42:19] >> It's been unbelievable, Carol. What a

[42:21] week we've had. You know, everything

[42:22] from Halloween to politics, from war to

[42:24] weather. Our eye report of the day. This

[42:27] is a great photo and this was just taken

[42:29] uh just this morning in California at

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[42:34] in from Anthony Galvin III and there you

[42:37] can see this was a military rock uh

[42:39] satellite which was launched on the

[42:41] Delta IV rocket and it's going to be

[42:43] used for global forecasting. Our next uh

[42:46] this is the award winner that we were

[42:47] talking about here from Tom Kenny. You

[42:49] might have re recognized this picture

[42:51] from last week, the northeastern storms.

[42:53] Tom Kenny sent us in like 10 different

[42:55] pictures along with some video. This is

[42:58] from Dartmouth, Massachusetts. About six

[43:00] boats from the strong winds lost their

[43:02] moorings and washed on the shore. So, a

[43:04] big thank you to Tom Kenny. He wins our

[43:06] gratitude and he also wins an I Report

[43:08] t-shirt. And if you want to be part of

[43:09] the CNN eye report team, log on to

[43:12] cnn.com/exchange.

[43:14] Send us your photos. One idea perhaps

[43:16] Veterans Week that's coming up on the

[43:18] 11th, one week from today.

[43:20] >> That's right. I think we're going to

[43:21] have some big and special coverage on

[43:22] that day. We'll be sharing a lot of the

[43:23] I news reports, so hopefully lots of

[43:25] people will be sending things in. Even

[43:27] family photos be terrific.

[43:28] >> Mhm.

[43:28] >> All right. Thanks, Jackie. Well,

[43:30] unassuming video blogger or political

[43:33] assassin. One misstep can end a

[43:35] political career, but only if someone

[43:38] sees it. So, we're going to show you how

[43:40] some candidates make sure they don't

[43:41] miss their opponent's gaffs. That's next

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[46:39] >> In the past, when political candidates

[46:40] said or did something embarrassing, they

[46:42] might have gotten away with it. But now

[46:44] every little thing they do is watched

[46:47] and reported on the blogs. For example,

[46:49] take a look at this. A liberal blogger

[46:51] gets into a scuffle with staffers for

[46:53] incumbent Republican Senator George

[46:55] Allen. This video was taken Tuesday by

[46:58] an affiliate in Richmond, Virginia, and

[47:00] has been posted on some 186,000 blogs.

[47:04] Today, the same blogger was taken away

[47:07] by police after an Allen supporter

[47:09] claimed the man pushed him at a rally.

[47:12] Video blogs are the newest weapons in

[47:14] politics and the so-called bloggers,

[47:16] that's blogger with a V, are changing

[47:18] the landscape of the election season.

[47:20] Gary Tuckman shows us how.

[47:24] >> Conrad Burns is campaigning fiercely to

[47:26] try to keep his US Senate seat.

[47:28] >> I know how contagious it can be whenever

[47:31] whenever everybody gets together. And

[47:33] when the Montana Republican hits the

[47:35] trail, he is shadowed by this man with

[47:37] the video camera. A man who comes

[47:39] faithfully to Conrad Burns's events, but

[47:42] who does not come with good intentions.

[47:44] >> I definitely want John Tester as uh the

[47:46] next senator from Montana.

[47:47] >> I think we should talk about taxes a

[47:49] little bit here.

[47:50] >> John Tester is the Democratic

[47:52] challenger, but Kevin O'Brien keeps his

[47:54] camera on Conrad Burns, hoping the

[47:56] three-term incumbent says something

[47:58] wrong or embarrassing.

[47:59] >> Uh oh, Hugo. I'll call you back, Hugo.

[48:02] so he can put it for the world to see on

[48:04] the immensely popular video sharing

[48:06] website YouTube. This campaign event

[48:08] took place in Pulsen, Montana.

[48:10] >> That's Hugo.

[48:14] >> Hugo is a nice little Guam mountain man

[48:18] who's doing some painting for me in

[48:21] Virginia.

[48:23] >> Terrorism was a topic at this picnic in

[48:25] Mile City

[48:26] >> to fight this enemy that's a taxi cab

[48:28] driver in the daytime but a killer at

[48:31] night. And more of the same two days

[48:33] later in but

[48:34] >> where our kids can go to bed at night,

[48:36] not worry about a guy that drives a taxi

[48:38] cab in the daytime and chills at night.

[48:40] >> Campaign operatives are taking advantage

[48:41] of this new technology to try to

[48:43] politically harm their candidates

[48:45] rivals. As Virginia Senator George Allen

[48:47] learned,

[48:48] >> this fell here over here with the the

[48:50] yellow shirt, Macaka or whatever his

[48:52] name is, he's with my opponent. He's

[48:54] following us around everywhere.

[48:55] >> To some, the word Macaka is racially

[48:58] insensitive. Allen issued an apology.

[49:01] Kevin O'Brien is paid by the tester

[49:03] campaign. He says he's put nearly 17,000

[49:05] miles on his car in less than half a

[49:07] year following Conrad Burns.

[49:09] >> Sometimes I'm stunned and um you know

[49:12] have to go back to the videos to make

[49:13] sure that my eyes and my ears weren't

[49:15] weren't tricking me.

[49:16] >> His eyes weren't tricking him when

[49:18] Conrad Burns started nodding off at an

[49:20] agriculture hearing held in Montana.

[49:26] This clip with music dubbed in has been

[49:29] downloaded more than 90,000 times

[49:31] according to YouTube. But is this below

[49:33] the belt politics?

[49:34] >> John Tester doesn't think so.

[49:36] >> A lot of people fall asleep. I fall

[49:37] asleep and I'm sure you've fallen asleep

[49:39] before it. Is that a little unfair?

[49:40] >> Well, that that meeting was about egg

[49:42] policy. Uh Montana's number one industry

[49:44] is agriculture. Uh I wouldn't be falling

[49:47] asleep when we're talking about egg

[49:48] policy. It's pretty dogone important to

[49:50] our economy. Not surprisingly, Burns

[49:52] campaign workers don't enjoy seeing

[49:54] their candidate ridiculed.

[49:55] >> It looks like a big lunch.

[49:57] >> But at this campaign event at a senior

[49:59] center, the senator and the renegade

[50:01] cameraman take some time to say hi to

[50:02] each other.

[50:04] >> I'm hungry there. I'm hungry.

[50:07] >> I get over here in this calories and

[50:09] cholesterol.

[50:10] >> Senator Burns, it seems, likes O'Brien.

[50:13] >> We love him. He's a He's really a nice

[50:15] guy. and we we have to feed him at our

[50:16] picnics and our dinners because I don't

[50:18] think the Democrats are paying very

[50:20] much. In the last congressional election

[50:22] year of 2004, YouTube did not exist. So,

[50:26] this is new territory for politicians

[50:27] like Conrad Burns, whose opinions about

[50:30] it may be shaped by whether they win or

[50:32] lose.

[50:34] Gary Tuckman, CNN, Bosezeman, Montana.

[50:37] >> So, what kind of an impact are these

[50:38] video bloggers really having? Well, I

[50:41] asked Garrett Graph, editor at large for

[50:43] the Washingtonian magazine. the first

[50:45] blogger to be credentialed by the White

[50:47] House.

[50:49] >> What the big change is is that it forces

[50:51] a candidate to always believe that they

[50:54] are now on live TV.

[50:57] >> Yeah. But you would think a man like

[50:59] John Kerry All right. You know about his

[51:01] speech last Tuesday. Okay. You would

[51:03] think a man like John Kerry would watch

[51:05] himself then that much more carefully.

[51:07] Let's show the audience right now the

[51:09] clip of what he had to say before these

[51:10] college students.

[51:12] you know, education, if you make the

[51:15] most of it, you study hard, you do your

[51:16] homework, and you make an effort to be

[51:18] smart, uh you you can do well. If you

[51:21] don't, you get stuck in Iraq.

[51:23] >> Okay. Now, you know the fallout from

[51:25] that, right? I mean, the Republicans are

[51:27] making a heyday out of this, that here

[51:28] he is, a former Vietnam vet, um you

[51:31] know, dissing uh the American troops in

[51:33] Iraq as if their job wasn't good enough.

[51:35] So you have a clip like that with what

[51:38] kind of speed does it does it travel on

[51:41] the internet? Well, I mean, that's the

[51:44] that's the really revolutionary part

[51:46] that we're seeing with YouTube and other

[51:48] sites is that thanks to cell phone video

[51:51] and cell phone photos, literally people

[51:54] could be watching it on the internet on

[51:57] YouTube or other sites like that before

[51:59] the candidate speech is over that you

[52:01] can upload it directly from your phone

[52:04] to the website even as it's happening.

[52:07] >> Yeah. But if it's a candidate, okay,

[52:09] maybe not someone with the stature of a

[52:11] of a John Ky, but say a candidate

[52:13] tripping or, you know, in the case of

[52:15] Gary Tuckman's piece, a candidate

[52:16] falling asleep at a at an agricultural

[52:19] hearing. I mean, really, is that so bad?

[52:22] >> Well, it it depends on the candidate and

[52:24] it depends on the circumstances. You you

[52:26] have a situation where you can capture a

[52:30] very small moment and have it play into

[52:32] people's larger fears. If you are John

[52:35] McCain looking to run in 2008, you have

[52:38] to be very wary of any trip, any fall,

[52:42] any stumble, anything like that that

[52:44] could be captured on video because all

[52:46] of a sudden people will begin to see him

[52:48] as old. I mean, this is what happened to

[52:50] Bob Dole in 1996.

[52:52] >> So, it doesn't if you're if you're John

[52:54] Edwards and someone catches you falling

[52:56] or tripping going up onto a stage, that

[52:59] doesn't matter. But if you're John

[53:00] McCain, it could have a very big impact

[53:02] on your presidential hopes.

[53:04] >> But Garrett, do you ever think that just

[53:06] on the issue of fairness, I mean, people

[53:08] can take a moment like that, right? One

[53:11] trip, okay, a moment like that and it

[53:13] gets twisted to the nth degree and

[53:16] millions and millions of people see it

[53:17] on the internet outside the context of,

[53:20] >> dare I say, conventional media um and

[53:23] the so-called experts to parse that

[53:24] moment and and give it maybe a reality

[53:26] check.

[53:27] >> Is that fair? I mean, doesn't that

[53:29] actually rob the public of of getting at

[53:32] the truth?

[53:33] >> Well, that's that's the big question

[53:35] here is is sort of how how much faith

[53:39] people should put in these moments. But

[53:41] but from a campaign standpoint, the

[53:44] great thing is that you don't have to

[53:45] rely on CNN or any of the other sort of

[53:48] mainstream media gatekeepers to get a

[53:51] moment like that. You can get that

[53:52] moment without anyone helping you. Stay

[53:56] with CNN throughout election day. We're

[53:58] going to bring you live updates from 7

[54:00] to midnight Eastern. Wolf Blitzer,

[54:02] Anderson Cooper, Paula, and Lou Dos are

[54:05] all part of the best political team on

[54:07] television. Then at midnight, election

[54:10] coverage continues with a special

[54:11] edition of Larry King Live. Hear from

[54:13] the winners and losers across the

[54:15] country.

[54:17] And now, it's time for you to choose the

[54:19] news. Brian Wilbert and several other

[54:21] viewers are asking for more background

[54:23] on the Bishop Katherine Jeff Shy. Glad

[54:26] to do it. Brian Shri made history today

[54:28] when she assumed leadership of the

[54:29] Episcopal Church. That's the American

[54:32] branch of the worldwide Anglican

[54:33] Communion. The former bishop of Nevada

[54:36] was invested today at the National

[54:38] Cathedral in Washington. Bishop Shy is a

[54:40] private pilot who holds a PhD in

[54:43] oceanography. Her elevation to the head

[54:45] of the church is widely seen as a

[54:47] triumph for women and a positive step

[54:50] for gay priests and same-sex couples,

[54:52] both of which she supports. Bishop

[54:55] Katherine Jeff Shy is the first woman to

[54:57] lead the Episcopal Church in its 520year

[55:00] history.

[55:02] >> Thanks for the question, Brian. And a

[55:04] check of the hour's headlines after the

[55:06] break. But first, your responses to our

[55:08] last call question. What issue is

[55:10] sending you to the polls on Tuesday?

[55:12] Here's what you had to say.

[55:14] There are many issues to me to the

[55:16] polls. I want lower taxes. I want uh uh

[55:20] to put a ban on late term abortions. And

[55:24] I want to end homosexual marriage.

[55:26] >> I'm going to the polls this year uh to

[55:29] protest the Iraq war and the lack of

[55:32] leadership.

[55:33] >> The issue that's definitely sending me

[55:35] to the polls on Tuesday is the pro-life

[55:38] issue, the respect for the unborn. is

[55:42] all just focused on gay marriage and all

[55:45] these minor issues when children are

[55:47] starving and wars are going on and I

[55:50] think we need some fresh breath and

[55:51] leadership. I call them going to the

[55:53] polls to make America stronger back our

[55:57] troops, keep the country safe from

[56:00] terrorists and uh both people who back

[56:04] our troops in the army. Certainly the

[56:06] war in Iraq and um most definitely just

[56:10] all the um corruption and and scandals

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[59:52] Hello everyone. I'm Steven Frasier at

[59:54] CNN Center in Atlanta with a welcome for

[59:56] all of our viewers in the United States

[59:57] and around the world. And we have an

[59:59] update on this hour's top story,

[60:01] verdicts in the first trial of Saddam

[60:03] Hussein and seven defendants. The former

[60:05] president and his codefendants are

[60:07] charged with crimes against humanity for

[60:09] the D jail crackdown in 1982. Hussein

[60:12] could face the death penalty if he's

[60:14] found guilty in the deaths of 148

[60:16] villages there. A strict curfew for

[60:18] Baghdad and two neighboring provinces

[60:20] went into effect earlier in effort to

[60:23] prevent any violence. All vehicles and

[60:25] even pedestrians are banned from the

[60:27] streets until further notice. Baghdad

[60:29] International Airport is also closed.

[60:32] This security lockdown extends to two

[60:34] other provinces. Michael Wear is in the

[60:37] capital. He can give us a sense of how

[60:39] apprehensive the mood might be pervading

[60:41] the city at this hour. Michael, good to

[60:43] see you. Is there any sense of the mood

[60:45] or is everything just uh shuttered and

[60:48] behind doors?

[60:51] >> Well, it's more the latter. Everything

[60:52] is absolutely lockdown tight there. The

[60:56] curfew, the ban that you speak of is not

[60:59] just for vehicles, but is even for

[61:01] pedestrians.

[61:03] So nothing literally shall be moving on

[61:06] Baghdad streets today or in the key

[61:09] towns in the other provinces which are

[61:11] also affected by this curfew. Now, Iraqi

[61:15] TV is is on its normal programming.

[61:18] People are at home, but they're trying

[61:20] to go about their business as best they

[61:22] can under these conditions. However,

[61:25] these are conditions that the people of

[61:27] Baghdad in particular are becoming used

[61:29] to. We see security clampdowns from time

[61:31] to time. This time, it's different.

[61:34] They're waiting for the verdict in the

[61:35] Saddam trial.

[61:37] >> And waiting uh with some concern, one of

[61:39] the defense attorneys, Michael, is

[61:40] quoted as saying that the gates of hell

[61:42] will open in Baghdad. uh should it uh be

[61:46] true that Saddam Hussein receives the

[61:47] death penalty for this or is even found

[61:49] guilty, let's go back for the sake of

[61:52] our viewers and explain what this trial

[61:54] is about and it's directly sectarian

[61:56] violence because of uh uh an alleged

[61:58] assassination attempt against Saddam

[62:00] Hussein and his retinue into jail in

[62:03] 1982. It's only 35 miles north of

[62:06] Baghdad. Some people shooting from an

[62:08] orchard. Let us know what happened after

[62:10] that.

[62:12] >> Yes. So what happened after that is that

[62:14] Saddam Hussein's regime instigated what

[62:17] it would have then been called an

[62:19] investigation.

[62:20] What happened is that Saddam effectively

[62:23] charged his his relatives in charge of

[62:26] the Mukabarat or intelligence service to

[62:28] find the culprits. Now to do that they

[62:32] went into this small village. There was

[62:35] a number of deaths reported in the first

[62:37] days after the so-called assassination

[62:39] attempt. But we saw the orchards in the

[62:42] village, the main stay of the village,

[62:44] raised and destroyed. It's from there

[62:46] that some of the gunmen fired. We then

[62:48] effectively saw groups of families, a

[62:51] total of 399

[62:53] people, men, women, and children rounded

[62:57] up. Now, they were then taken off for

[63:00] interrogation. Now, by interrogation,

[63:02] under Saddam's regime, that clearly

[63:05] includes torture. Now that's electric

[63:07] shocks, beatings, sleep deprivation, all

[63:10] manner of horrors. Now of that 399,

[63:15] an unknown number succumb to torture.

[63:18] The group was eventually moved to

[63:20] Abulgrade prison and after that they

[63:22] were finally taken to a small detention

[63:25] facility way out in a southern desert.

[63:28] Now in 1984

[63:32] of that 399

[63:35] were named in a court proceeding. Now in

[63:39] that court proceeding all 148 were

[63:42] sentenced to death in one very brief

[63:45] session by the chief judge who is also

[63:48] on trial here. So these are the crimes

[63:52] for which these eight men are facing

[63:55] trial or have faced trial and today they

[63:58] await their judgment. We should uh let

[64:01] viewers know some of the other people

[64:02] you mentioned one of them the chief

[64:04] justice in that court proceeding uh you

[64:06] described there it was called the

[64:08] revolutionary court in those days. Uh

[64:10] another the head of the secret police

[64:13] you mentioned that with its formal name

[64:14] there the mukabarat. uh others were sort

[64:17] of local ba'ath party officials uh from

[64:20] the D jail region itself which was a

[64:22] Shiite area and what the defense has

[64:24] been saying Michael correct me if we're

[64:26] interpreting this incorrectly in this

[64:28] trial the defense has been saying that

[64:31] these people were uh Iranianbacked

[64:34] Shiite uh militia people who were

[64:37] actually seeking to upset the government

[64:40] uh of Iraq and Iraq and Iran were at war

[64:43] at that time and so these executions

[64:45] were legal and justified because of the

[64:48] circumstances of the day.

[64:51] >> Absolutely. I mean that has been a a a

[64:54] keystone or a cornerstone of this

[64:57] defense that yes this was wartime and

[65:00] the defense has tried to highlight the

[65:03] fact that this was an attempt on the

[65:05] life of our head of state. Now their

[65:08] argument more or less is along the lines

[65:11] of well what did you expect the state to

[65:13] do? it can't just sit back and and allow

[65:16] such an assault on its president. So,

[65:19] they're trying to argue that this was

[65:21] justified within the circumstances of

[65:24] the day and that procedural fairness for

[65:27] what it's worth in Iraq in the 1980s was

[65:31] carried out. So, that's their defense.

[65:34] Nonetheless, these men now face crimes

[65:37] against humanity.

[65:38] >> Uh, now you talked about procedural

[65:40] fairness as it existed back then. The uh

[65:43] procedure of this trial has been

[65:46] stunning for Iraqis. They've been

[65:48] watching it on national television. And

[65:50] we should point out, by the way, too,

[65:51] Michael, that the word of the verdict is

[65:53] going to reach us um with a the video

[65:56] anyway from the courtroom today, which

[65:58] should be underway any moment now. It

[65:59] will reach us with a 20 minute delay for

[66:02] the sake of security. Um this trial,

[66:05] these proceedings were absolutely

[66:07] mesmerizing for the average man on the

[66:09] street. I know you've been in and out uh

[66:11] all through this trial. Three judges, a

[66:14] number of defense attorneys killed,

[66:16] another who fled in fear for his life.

[66:19] Uh these rants and outbursts, one

[66:22] defendant uh speaking in his underwear.

[66:24] Some days when there were no defendants,

[66:26] they didn't show up. Other days when

[66:27] they were there, their lawyers were not

[66:29] there. This has it's almost been high

[66:31] comedy even though it's been incredibly

[66:34] serious for the future of this nation.

[66:37] >> Oh, look, absolutely. I mean this trial

[66:40] process from the beginning had more than

[66:42] a hint of theater about it. Now I mean

[66:46] many Iraqis here on the ground have been

[66:48] cynical about this trial after an

[66:51] initial novelty period when it was

[66:54] something extraordinary to see someone

[66:56] like Saddam actually in the dock.

[66:59] People's attention has not been

[67:01] transfixed by this trial or the

[67:04] subsequent trial that is currently

[67:05] underway. At best, normal Iraqis have a

[67:08] passing interest in it. By and large, to

[67:13] the Iraqi on the street, their view is

[67:16] why is this man still alive? For them,

[67:20] justice could have been and should have

[67:22] been served a long time ago in the wake

[67:24] of his capture. So this theater

[67:27] sometimes which we've seen to send into

[67:29] the theater of the absurd has

[67:31] essentially been a a propaganda or

[67:34] public relations gift more or less to

[67:36] Saddam Hussein. We saw him hijack the

[67:39] events time and time again, overbearing

[67:42] and dominating the judges, captivating

[67:45] people on the TV for those who are

[67:48] watching, using the this trial and the

[67:50] trial that's also underway now on

[67:52] separate charges to call people to arms

[67:56] to to ask them to rise up against the

[67:58] occupier or indeed to tell them to stop

[68:00] killing each other. It's been a grand

[68:02] opportunity for him to seize the moment

[68:06] and continue dominating some of the

[68:08] headlines here. But in terms of the

[68:10] reality of what's happening here on the

[68:12] ground, in terms of the many wars

[68:15] currently plaguing Iraq, the insurgency

[68:17] war, the civil war, the ongoing

[68:20] competition between US proxies and

[68:23] Iranianbacked proxies here in this

[68:25] country, Saddam's verdict will have

[68:27] little if any impact on any of that.

[68:30] Indeed, out in the Sunni insurgency, it

[68:33] would be the meest handful of percent of

[68:36] insurgents and insurgent attacks that

[68:38] have anything to do with either Saddam

[68:41] Hussein or a desire to bring him back to

[68:44] power. So ultimately, all this trial has

[68:47] done has offered Saddam a platform and

[68:49] now offered the insurgents or the Shia

[68:52] militias, depending on the nature of the

[68:54] verdict, yet more opportunity for

[68:57] mayhem.

[68:58] It has been a platform that he has

[69:00] extended by stalling quite a bit. And

[69:02] there's even a hint now, Michael, that

[69:04] there could be uh one more effort to

[69:06] stall. His defense lawyers have uh

[69:08] brought a request for a 60-day delay in

[69:11] the announcement of any kind of verdict.

[69:12] They say that the timing of events is

[69:15] actually arranged to coincide with US

[69:18] elections and therefore not fair to the

[69:20] defendants here. We don't know what's

[69:22] happened to that request, do we?

[69:25] >> No, we don't at this stage. I mean

[69:27] that's something for the for the

[69:29] investigating or for the trial judges to

[69:32] determine themselves. I mean what that's

[69:34] talking about is actually apprehended

[69:38] bias. What they're saying is that this

[69:41] trial is not happening in a political

[69:43] vacuum and that external political

[69:45] pressures in this case in particular the

[69:48] US midterm elections are having an undue

[69:51] effect over the proceedings. Now, they

[69:54] would be asking the judges to look at

[69:56] that and make a determination of that

[69:58] themselves. However, that's most

[70:01] unlikely to happen. We don't know, but

[70:04] it would not appear to be something that

[70:07] anyone is expecting. In fact, we're

[70:09] being told as recently as yesterday that

[70:12] the verdict is in fact expected to come

[70:15] out today. Now, it's been impossible for

[70:18] this trial to be conducted within a

[70:21] political vacuum as you would expect

[70:23] anywhere else in the West. Indeed, many

[70:26] of the proceedings here, many of the

[70:28] events, many of the pressures that have

[70:30] been brought to bear on this court and

[70:32] many of the comments that have been made

[70:34] by this government, including one made

[70:37] by the prime minister of Iraq only

[70:39] yesterday, which clearly seemed to

[70:42] predetermine the verdict, simply would

[70:44] not stand up in the West. In terms of

[70:47] western legal procedures, I mean, this

[70:50] trial has been rather absurd and it's

[70:53] most likely that it would not have

[70:55] survived to this point or alternatively,

[70:58] it presents clear and evident grounds

[71:01] for appeal. Now, we're already most

[71:04] likely expecting to see this trial phase

[71:09] to end today with the verdict. However,

[71:11] it's anticipated that the appeal phase

[71:15] will now begin with the sentence of

[71:17] death or with the sentence of life

[71:19] imprisonment. The appeal phase of the

[71:21] Iraqi judicial process is automatically

[71:25] ke kicked in. So even if Saddam Hussein

[71:28] and his cohorts are sentenced to death

[71:31] today or to life imprisonment, today is

[71:34] far from the end. It's then referred to

[71:37] an appeal court. that appeal court can

[71:40] take an in undetermined amount of time

[71:44] to look at the facts of the case, to

[71:46] look at the law, to look at the

[71:48] procedures, to determine whether

[71:50] anything went wrong. Now, according to

[71:52] the constitution, there's no limit to

[71:55] that time that that court can take to

[71:58] adjudicate this verdict. However, once

[72:02] the appeal court does make its decision,

[72:05] it then must have the sentence carried

[72:08] out within 30 days of the announcement

[72:11] of that decision. So, this is only the

[72:14] end of one phase of this Saddam trial

[72:17] saga. We're about to enter another

[72:20] potentially just as interesting and and

[72:23] perhaps subject to even more political

[72:27] consideration.

[72:28] >> Indeed, excellent explanation there of

[72:30] that. and take a breath here while we uh

[72:32] prepare to discuss the larger issues

[72:34] against which this is playing out.

[72:36] Michael, uh you talked about the fact

[72:38] that the insurgency won't be affected at

[72:40] all by this news. Uh the insurgency

[72:43] still uh very very intense and in

[72:46] another operation that is related but

[72:48] not against insurgents. Iraqi

[72:50] authorities say that they arrested uh uh

[72:53] 50 or killed 50 al-Qaeda fighters in an

[72:56] operation uh just yesterday. So there

[72:59] are movements against uh death squads in

[73:02] Solder City. There are movements against

[73:04] alleged foreign fighters, al-Qaeda

[73:07] members. Uh so the security efforts

[73:10] continue unabated and so too the attacks

[73:12] uh that take the lives of civilians.

[73:16] >> Yes, unfortunately that's true. I mean

[73:18] the war continues here. Now that's

[73:22] completely separate to this trial. I

[73:25] mean this trial is being held during

[73:30] combat during the war. So obviously

[73:33] within a security environment this trial

[73:36] poses its own challenges but within a

[73:39] broader conflict it makes it even more

[73:42] difficult. And as you say al-Qaeda is

[73:45] still out there. It is still leading an

[73:47] insurgency in the west of Iraq. We also

[73:51] have baristas and Iraqi nationalists and

[73:54] Iraqi Islamists waging their war against

[73:58] the US occupier and American troops. At

[74:01] the same time, we have a civil war

[74:03] underway as Sunni and Shia death squads

[74:07] go at each other's populations. We're

[74:10] seeing bodies still turning up on the

[74:12] streets of the capital every morning,

[74:15] executed with bullets to the head. many

[74:17] of these bodies showing signs of

[74:19] torture. We also have the powerful Shia

[74:22] militias which are the fundamental

[74:24] building blocks of this government

[74:26] consolidating their power. So there's

[74:29] all manner of things that are going on

[74:31] around this trial and this trial will

[74:33] have little if any bearing on any of

[74:36] them except as a propaganda opportunity

[74:40] to launch some kind of attack in the

[74:42] name of this verdict or citing this

[74:46] verdict. This verdict, whether Saddam

[74:48] lives, whether he dies, or whether he

[74:51] goes to jail, is not going to affect the

[74:54] insurgency one way or the other. It's

[74:56] not going to make it stronger. It's not

[74:58] going to make it weaker. All it does is

[75:00] presents it with a public relations

[75:02] opportunity to do some kind of attack if

[75:05] it so if it so wishes. Well, that's a

[75:08] good explanation, Michael, because what

[75:10] we're hearing from some people outside

[75:12] of Iraq is that in the name of Saddam,

[75:15] there could be renewed violence. The

[75:16] Sunni fighters who uh represent his side

[75:20] of politics in Iraq would uh use his uh

[75:24] sentence as a rallying cry. And

[75:26] conversely, uh, should he escape the

[75:29] death penalty, the Shiite militias that

[75:31] you just mentioned, uh, may also go on a

[75:34] rampage feeling that he, uh, wasn't

[75:36] treated harshly enough for his crimes.

[75:40] >> Absolutely. I mean, it it can go either

[75:42] way depending upon the nature of this

[75:44] this verdict. I mean, very much it

[75:46] reflects the fact that this country

[75:49] teeters on a knife edge. It could slip

[75:52] in either direction. Nonetheless, within

[75:54] the Sunni insurgency, the Sunni

[75:57] insurgency are primarily those

[76:00] responsible for the daily drip feed of

[76:03] attacks on American forces, the roadside

[76:05] bombs, the sniper attacks, many of the

[76:08] ambushes. I mean, most of the American

[76:13] casualties can be accounted for by the

[76:16] Sunni insurgents, essentially guerilla

[76:18] forces attacking the American

[76:20] Conventional Army. However, within those

[76:23] groups, even though American commanders

[76:27] and politicians like to describe

[76:30] elements of this insurgency as Sudamis,

[76:32] it's effectively a non-term. I've spent

[76:36] a lot of time studying the insurgency.

[76:38] I've been with many of these insurgents,

[76:42] many of them top officers from Saddam's

[76:44] former regime, many of them top baths,

[76:47] many of them from the intelligence

[76:49] service, from the Secret Police.

[76:50] Honestly,

[76:53] virtually none of them are fighting for

[76:56] Saddam. Virtually none of them are

[76:58] fighting to bring Saddam back. That's

[77:01] got nothing to do with this fight here

[77:03] in Iraq right now. Indeed, many of these

[77:06] men although they are Sunnis like

[77:08] Saddale, although they come from Tree

[77:12] even, which is Saddam's hotel hometown

[77:15] or any other of the Sunni strongholds

[77:18] from which Saddam drew the ranks of his

[77:20] regime and which he returned with

[77:23] financial and other blessings, even

[77:25] among these men, very few of them will

[77:28] be crying any tears over the loss of

[77:30] Saddam. When Saddam conducted one of his

[77:33] vicious purges of his regime, it was the

[77:37] families of these men who now lead the

[77:39] insurgency who suffered. Though they

[77:41] served for him, many of them lost

[77:43] cousins or lost land or lost relatives.

[77:46] Some of them themselves were often

[77:48] detained in prison for certain periods

[77:50] before being released as was the whim of

[77:53] Saddam or his two sons Uday and Kusay.

[77:57] So even within Saddam's power block,

[78:00] within the Sunni groups and the Sunni

[78:02] block that supported his regime, there

[78:05] is very little love lost. Many of these

[78:09] men indeed say or certainly were saying

[78:11] in the wake of the invasion, US forces

[78:14] came and removed Saddam. Thank you. Then

[78:18] the question was, but when are you

[78:19] leaving? So there is very little

[78:22] motivation in the heart of the

[78:24] insurgency that is driven by any kind of

[78:27] loyalty to Saddam. But like I said, the

[78:30] verdict does present an opportunity be

[78:33] it for the Sunni insurgents or the Shia

[78:35] militias depending on which way it goes.

[78:40] >> And so what we have here, Michael, is a

[78:43] a day of dual importance. It is Saddam's

[78:46] day quite literally and that of his

[78:47] seven codefendants. It's also a day for

[78:50] this fledgling judiciary of a fledgling

[78:52] democracy uh to try to bring this stage

[78:55] of events to a close and move on to the

[78:57] next that you described so well there.

[78:59] We uh want to let our viewers know that

[79:01] we are standing by for news of this

[79:03] verdict. We have you Michael Wear in

[79:05] Baghdad. We have our Anish Ramen in the

[79:07] courtroom and he'll be the first to let

[79:09] us know what happens. And we have uh one

[79:11] of our producers Joanna Karachce in the

[79:13] media room next to the courtroom for

[79:16] other details. In fact, she may be the

[79:17] first to be able to shake loose to give

[79:20] us information about that. So, we will

[79:22] uh keep an eye on events and we will

[79:24] return to the air when we've got news of

[79:27] what's exactly being announced in the

[79:28] courtroom. But for now, this is our top

[79:30] story. I'm Steven Frasier at CNN Center.

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