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[0:00] Uh, Detective Furman, did you plant or
[0:03] manufacture any evidence in this case?
[0:07] >> I assert my fifth amendment privilege.
[0:10] >> Mark Ferman back on the stand, back in
[0:13] the spotlight in the Simpson trial, but
[0:14] he refuses to answer questions. While in
[0:18] Washington, Senator Bob Pacwood gets a
[0:20] shocking rejection from his colleagues
[0:22] and vows to fight back. a process.
[0:28] >> And a belleaguered game has a new
[0:30] immortal. Cal Ripken Jr. now in the
[0:33] record books
[0:35] >> where he belongs. Good morning everyone.
[0:36] I'm Charles Gibson
[0:37] >> and I'm John London. It is Thursday,
[0:39] September 7th and it is a busy morning,
[0:41] but we'll cover it all. Starting with
[0:42] Bob Pacwood. Amid allegations of sexual
[0:45] and official misconduct, the Senate
[0:46] Ethics Committee unanimously recommended
[0:49] Pacwood's expulsion. The first time in
[0:51] 13 years such a drastic measure has been
[0:53] taken and we will hear from him in just
[0:55] a moment.
[0:56] >> Also ahead this morning, the Simpson
[0:57] trial hits the home stretch. Now that
[0:59] Mark Ferman has taken the fifth, the big
[1:01] question is whether he will do it again,
[1:02] but this time in front of the jury. We
[1:05] will speak to Simpson attorney Alan
[1:07] Dersowitz. And later in the hour, Rodrik
[1:09] Hajj, the first African-American witness
[1:10] to testify that Ferman used racist
[1:13] language. And we'll get an update on
[1:14] what this all means in terms of how the
[1:16] trial stands. Right now, a word about
[1:17] the weather. Spencer Christian.
[1:19] >> All right. Charles Dwolf Gibson.
[1:21] Hurricane Louise still in the news,
[1:23] strengthening now and is once again a
[1:25] category 4 hurricane with winds of 140
[1:27] mph. But good news, it is moving away
[1:30] from Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands,
[1:32] and all other populated areas. And in
[1:34] this half hour, we'll tell you if it's a
[1:36] threat to any other areas as the week
[1:38] goes on.
[1:39] >> And we'll show you plenty from Baltimore
[1:40] where Cal Ripken late last night broke
[1:42] the Lou Garri record. But let's get to
[1:44] the morning news and Morton Dean.
[1:45] Morning, Charlie. It was an
[1:47] extraordinary yet brief event in the
[1:49] extraordinary longrunning trial, the OJ
[1:52] Simpson trial. After the tapes, after
[1:54] all the talk, Mark Ferman back on the
[1:56] stand, back for about 5 minutes without
[1:59] the jury present. As ABC's Bill Ritter
[2:01] reports, it was noteworthy for what
[2:03] Ferman did not say.
[2:07] >> Detective Ferman, did you plant or
[2:09] manufacture any evidence in this case?
[2:14] I assert my fifth amendment privilege.
[2:16] >> His testimony incriminated OJ Simpson,
[2:18] but now forced back on the stand, Mark
[2:21] Ferman didn't want to incriminate
[2:23] himself.
[2:24] >> Was the testimony that you gave at the
[2:26] preliminary hearing in this case
[2:28] completely truthful?
[2:32] >> I wish to assert my fifth amendment
[2:33] privilege.
[2:35] >> Have you ever falsified a police report?
[2:40] I wish to assert my fifth amendment
[2:42] privilege.
[2:43] >> Convinced the former detective would say
[2:45] nothing more, Judge Lanceo told Ferman
[2:47] he could leave and he likely will not
[2:50] return.
[2:50] >> Mark Ferman will never appear before
[2:52] this jury. The only question is whether
[2:55] or not the jury will learn whether or
[2:56] not Mark Ferman took the Fifth Amendment
[2:58] to a series of questions, including the
[3:00] big one, did he plant the glove? And
[3:02] that's exactly what the defense will
[3:04] argue. That the jury should know that
[3:06] the racist Ferman who talked freely on
[3:08] tape didn't want to talk on the stand.
[3:11] >> Even though the jury will be instructed
[3:13] not to think that taking the Fifth
[3:14] Amendment means Mark Ferman planted the
[3:16] glove, given human nature, it's highly
[3:19] likely that many jurors will believe he
[3:21] took the fifth because he did plant the
[3:23] glove. Earlier in the day, Rodrik
[3:26] Hodgej, a black man, testified that he
[3:28] was taunted by Mark Ferman during his
[3:30] arrest. All in all, a devastating day
[3:32] for the prosecution at a time when they
[3:34] can afford at least. Bill Ritter, ABC
[3:37] News, Los Angeles.
[3:39] >> The Senate Ethics Committee says Bob
[3:41] Pacwood should pack his bags and leave.
[3:43] Pacwood says he'll stay and fight. ABC's
[3:46] Bob Zelnik has more on the unanimous
[3:48] vote and the senator's angry reaction.
[3:52] >> Pacwood called the ethics committee's
[3:54] decision outrageous and said he has no
[3:56] plans to resign. Folks, I can't recall
[3:59] when any American citizen has been put
[4:02] through a process close to an
[4:03] inquisition and never had a chance to
[4:06] face his accusers. Never. Not once.
[4:09] >> The committee found that between 1969
[4:11] and 1990, Pacwood had made at least 18
[4:14] unwanted and unwelcome sexual advances,
[4:17] mostly to women, on his Senate or
[4:19] campaign staffs. that he had illegally
[4:22] attempted to obstruct the committee's
[4:23] investigation by altering both taped and
[4:26] typewritten entries in his personal
[4:28] diary and that he had tried to find a
[4:30] job for his former wife thereby reducing
[4:32] his own support payments by approaching
[4:35] people interested in legislation he
[4:37] could influence. Pacwood, who first
[4:39] opposed public hearings and later
[4:41] demanded them, never denied grabbing and
[4:43] kissing many of his female accusers.
[4:46] Instead, he claimed that he was a
[4:48] longtime alcoholic who couldn't recall
[4:50] many of the incidents. Senators familiar
[4:52] with the evidence, which the ethics
[4:54] committee will release today, call it
[4:56] overwhelming.
[4:57] >> The bottom line is this is
[4:58] extraordinary. And so, I think he is
[5:00] he's very weak now. Uh he uh he'd just
[5:04] be so much better off to resign.
[5:07] >> Few on Capitol Hill doubt that many more
[5:10] than the 67 votes needed to expel
[5:12] Pacwood could be found. And with
[5:14] majority leader Dole unlikely to let the
[5:17] matter linger, the pressure on Pacwood
[5:19] to change his mind and resign could
[5:21] become irresistible. Mort,
[5:23] >> thank you, Bob. Bob Zelnick at the ABC
[5:25] News bureau in Washington and Senator
[5:27] Pacwood will be here on Good Morning
[5:28] America in just a few minutes. The siege
[5:32] at Ruby Ridge, Idaho three years ago is
[5:34] the focus of dramatic, often emotional
[5:36] testimony. White separatist Randy Weaver
[5:39] tearfully telling a Senate panel how
[5:41] federal agents shot and killed his wife
[5:43] and 14-year-old son. Weaver says they
[5:46] were deliberately killed. Law
[5:48] enforcement officials claimed the deaths
[5:49] were unintentional.
[5:51] >> Oh, they're closed. Closed.
[5:52] >> A third day of NATO air attacks against
[5:54] Bosnian Serbs today.
[6:00] Some strikes on a Bosnian Serb barracks
[6:02] in Luca Vita. That's just outside SVO.
[6:05] Others reported nearby on Bosnian Serb
[6:08] bases in Palai.
[6:10] In Tahiti, some fires are still burning
[6:12] after violence erupted in the island's
[6:14] capital. Last night, hundreds of
[6:16] protesters moved from torching the
[6:18] airport to burning buildings downtown.
[6:21] The fires forced one hotel to evacuate
[6:23] its visitors. The trouble was sparked by
[6:26] France's underground nuclear test 750 mi
[6:29] from Tahiti.
[6:31] An extraordinary endurance record is
[6:34] broken. And ABC's Dick Shap says there
[6:36] was nothing ordinary about last night's
[6:38] baseball game in Baltimore.
[6:43] >> He clobers it to deep left.
[6:45] >> Once again, Cal Ripken couldn't have
[6:48] scripted it better. First, he hit a
[6:50] fourth inning home run that turned out
[6:51] to be the winning run for Baltimore.
[6:57] Then half an inning later on when his
[6:58] consecutive game playing streak
[7:00] officially reached 2,131,
[7:04] breaking Lou Garri's 56-year-old record,
[7:07] Cal Ripken basked in a stunning display
[7:10] of public affection that persisted for
[7:13] fully 22 minutes.
[7:17] His father cheered him, his mother
[7:19] cheered him, so did his brother, his
[7:21] former teammate. Then his teammates
[7:23] prodded Ripken to take a victory lap, to
[7:26] tour the stadium and reach out to his
[7:28] fans, to friends and strangers, to
[7:32] rivals and teammates, to thank them for
[7:35] their love.
[7:39] And after the game, Ripken put his
[7:41] feelings into words.
[7:43] >> I want to thank you, the fans of
[7:45] Baltimore, from the bottom of my heart.
[7:49] This is the greatest place to play.
[7:54] >> The good feelings generated last night
[7:57] may last as long as Ripken's remarkable
[8:00] streak. Dick Shapp, ABC News, Baltimore.
[8:06] >> And that is ABC News on the Hour. It's 8
[8:08] minutes after. We'll have a lot more on
[8:10] the Repen record coming up here on Good
[8:12] Morning America. Joe, it's been
[8:14] absolutely some record.
[8:15] >> Yeah, great story. More thanks. You of
[8:17] course are following Louise
[8:19] >> which is pretty much a record setter
[8:20] himself. Hurricane Louise actually right
[8:22] now is posing no threat to any major
[8:24] population centers but it is still a
[8:26] very strong hurricane and gaining
[8:27] strength. So let me show you what's
[8:29] going on right now. Joan, here is a
[8:31] satellite animation of the movement of
[8:32] the storm over the last 24 hours. And
[8:34] you can see that Puerto Rico and the US
[8:36] Virgin Islands were quite lucky as the
[8:37] storm made a sudden turn towards the
[8:39] north yesterday and moved away from
[8:41] those islands doing just minimal damage
[8:43] in the Virgin Islands and virtually none
[8:46] in Puerto Rico. So now it's moving up
[8:47] into the Atlantic. High sustained winds
[8:50] 140 mph. Still a category once again a
[8:52] category 4 hurricane, but at this point
[8:55] not moving the direction of any land or
[8:57] populated areas. Back here on the
[8:59] mainland today, things getting cooler.
[9:01] Look at this. High temperatures in the
[9:02] north central states 20° cooler than
[9:05] they were just a day or two ago. Highs
[9:07] generally in the 60s and 70s there. 50s
[9:09] in the northernmost reaches. Skies are
[9:11] clearing. Humidity is low, but
[9:12] thunderstorms and rainfall are rumbling
[9:15] along this frontal system which ushered
[9:16] in the cooler air that reaches from New
[9:18] England down to the southern plains. And
[9:19] it's going to be another wet and soggy
[9:21] day in the southeastern corner of the
[9:22] nation. That's a look at the national
[9:24] weather. Here's a look at what's
[9:25] happening where you are.
[9:26] >> Spencer, thank you very much. The
[9:27] weather where we are. Cloudy skies.
[9:29] We've had some drizzle reported. We've
[9:31] had some reports of some heavier rain
[9:33] out towards Sandy at 60° over the Rose
[9:35] City right now. Let's turn our attention
[9:36] to the satellite imagery and find out
[9:38] what we can expect with the weather.
[9:40] Well, an upper level low pressure system
[9:42] here is going to bring more rain and
[9:43] showers and possible thunderstorms to
[9:45] northern Oregon and most of Washington
[9:48] as it pushes out of the way. Though, we
[9:49] will see a ridge of high pressure
[9:50] building in and that will give us some
[9:53] clearing for the weekend, sending
[9:54] everything else to the north and east of
[9:56] us. But our forecast today is calling
[9:58] for scattered showers with a high of 73
[10:00] degrees, winds from the northwest to 10
[10:02] mph. And the 5-day forecast calls for
[10:04] some morning clouds tomorrow with some
[10:06] partial afternoon clearing. Saturday
[10:07] gives us more sunshine as does Sunday
[10:09] and Monday as temperatures push back up
[10:11] toward 80°. But today, if you're an Iron
[10:15] Man, you're going to rest in Portland
[10:17] anyway as things will be scattered in
[10:19] showers. That's a look at the weather.
[10:21] Let's go back now to Good Morning
[10:22] America.
[10:27] 10 now past the hour. As more told you,
[10:29] the Senate Ethics Committee has voted
[10:31] unanimously to recommend that Senator
[10:33] Bob Pacwood of Oregon be expelled for
[10:35] sexual misconduct and for other serious
[10:37] ethical violations. I spoke to the
[10:39] senator just a few minutes ago. Senator,
[10:42] I know yesterday you called the ethics
[10:43] committee action outrageous, but in
[10:46] order to avoid a divisive fight, would
[10:48] it not be more dignified at this point
[10:50] to resign? Charlie, I don't think it's
[10:53] fair. Every place in America, it doesn't
[10:56] matter if it's you or the president of
[10:59] General Motors or the lowest lowliest
[11:01] worker in a construction gang,
[11:04] when you're accused of something, you
[11:06] get a chance to face your accusers, a
[11:10] chance to question them. Of the of the
[11:12] 19 women that have complained, and
[11:14] there's only one in the last 12 years,
[11:16] six of them are anonymous. You've never
[11:18] interviewed them. I've never had a
[11:20] chance to question them. that that just
[11:22] isn't fair.
[11:24] >> Making that argument,
[11:25] >> can you get 34 senators to vote with you
[11:29] to stay?
[11:29] >> Gosh, Charlie, I I haven't even I
[11:31] haven't even thought about it. I just uh
[11:33] I just heard about the ethics committee
[11:34] action about 12 hours ago, and I haven't
[11:37] uh I haven't even made any effort to
[11:38] find out.
[11:39] >> Are you in a position now of going from
[11:41] senator to senator to ask for support?
[11:43] >> Haven't even thought about that as we
[11:44] talked this morning.
[11:45] >> Do you leave open the possibility of
[11:47] resignation?
[11:48] >> I have have no intention of resigning.
[11:50] None. You will fight this through to the
[11:52] end.
[11:53] >> I'm I have no intention. I want the
[11:54] public to at least see the charges and
[11:57] see my responses, not just in a written
[12:00] record where I've never had any chance.
[12:02] >> You say
[12:03] >> face my accusers, but at least to have a
[12:05] chance to have the public see them and
[12:07] see me.
[12:08] >> You say you you haven't had the chance
[12:09] to face your accusers, but are you
[12:10] saying these women are not telling the
[12:12] truth, Senator?
[12:12] >> Oh, no. I I in in in many cases, here's
[12:15] my problem. There's there are 19
[12:18] complaints although I want to say 19
[12:22] complaintants actually only one in the
[12:24] last 12 years but of those 19
[12:27] unfortunately 10 of them I cannot
[12:30] remember I don't know them and of the
[12:33] incidents that they complain about
[12:35] there's only five that I have any
[12:37] recollection of two of them I dispute
[12:39] one of them I have some slight
[12:41] difference of opinion with with the
[12:42] woman two of them I agree with but the
[12:45] rest of them isn't the question, are
[12:46] they lying or not lying? I I can add
[12:50] nothing to what they say.
[12:51] >> The most serious charge, it seems to me,
[12:54] is the quote from the committee that you
[12:56] endeavored to obstruct and impede the
[12:58] committee inquiry by withholding,
[13:00] altering, and destroying relative
[13:02] evidence. Did you? I did not. I want to
[13:05] And they're talking about my diaries
[13:07] particularly, and I want to very clearly
[13:10] state something so that it's understood.
[13:12] Every original word in my diaries was
[13:16] turned over to the committees. Every
[13:18] original word. They were not misled. In
[13:21] no way did they read anything that would
[13:24] have caused them to think one thing and
[13:26] then saw the originals and think
[13:28] something different.
[13:29] >> Well, I get confused because your
[13:30] secretary, who was transcribing the
[13:33] taped diaries, swore in a deposition
[13:36] that you had taken back the tapes and
[13:38] confirmed to her that you had altered
[13:40] them.
[13:40] >> Yes. But what she was talking about were
[13:43] copies of tapes. I kept the originals. I
[13:47] gave the originals to the committee.
[13:49] They never looked at any altered
[13:52] transcripts and made any judgments upon
[13:54] it. When I was subpoenaed and was
[13:56] required to give to the committee uh the
[13:58] all the information I had written,
[14:00] electronic tape cassettes or anything
[14:02] else, I gave them both the originals
[14:03] which I'd kept and they had never seen
[14:05] before and the copy. what the secretary
[14:08] was transcribing from was a copy, not
[14:10] the originals.
[14:11] >> And the final charge that's involved
[14:13] from the committee that you had a plan
[14:15] to enhance your personal financial
[14:17] position by getting your ex-wife a job
[14:19] that would lower your alimony, uh
[14:21] movements they say bring discredit and
[14:22] dishonor upon the Senate.
[14:24] >> I I endeavored when my wife and I were
[14:26] separated and then subsequently got
[14:28] divorced to get her a job.
[14:30] Interestingly, the committee you
[14:32] referred this to the Department of
[14:33] Justice for Criminal Conduct and the
[14:35] Department of Justice looked at it very
[14:37] thoroughly. They interviewed everybody,
[14:39] deposed everybody. You had people before
[14:41] the grand jury and then they sent us a
[14:43] letter saying that they were going to
[14:44] dismiss it. We're not going to pursue
[14:46] it. I tried to get her a job. It was
[14:48] with old personal friends that I who had
[14:51] offered to help that I'd known 15, 20,
[14:52] 25 years. In one case, 35 years. And in
[14:55] every case,
[14:57] it was to be that my wife was to do a
[14:59] full day's work for a full day's pay,
[15:01] and there was no connection ever
[15:04] suggested
[15:06] between a job for and anything I was
[15:08] doing in the Senate.
[15:09] >> Just final question, Senator. The
[15:10] committee that you head is in the middle
[15:13] of issues that should preoccupy the
[15:15] Senate through the fall. Issues like
[15:16] welfare reform, Medicare, the balanced
[15:19] budget, taxes. Doesn't this fight over
[15:22] you in effect preoccupy the Senate? Take
[15:25] it away from the business that it ought
[15:27] to be conducting?
[15:28] >> Well, I would I would hope not. And I
[15:30] would hope that the Senate would not say
[15:32] what we have to do is so important that
[15:35] we're going to take away an essential
[15:37] American right of fairness from a
[15:39] senator, the right to confront his
[15:41] accusers. If we start down that road, if
[15:44] we start saying that procedures are not
[15:47] important, and I tell you the person
[15:50] that controls the procedures of
[15:51] democracy controls the substance, you
[15:54] take away basic rights from anybody,
[15:56] from you, from me, from anybody. That's
[15:58] a dangerous road to tread. Senator Bob
[16:01] Pacwood, I appreciate you joining us
[16:03] this morning. Thank you.
[16:03] >> See you later. Thank you.
[16:05] >> Senator Bob Pacwood, Republican of
[16:07] Oregon, just a few moments before we
[16:08] went on the air. 16 minutes after Mark
[16:10] Ferman takes the fifth. What's left in
[16:12] the Simpson trial? We'll hear from
[16:13] defense attorney Alan Dersowitz when
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[18:28] Well, there were only four questions
[18:30] asked of Detective Mark Ferman, but each
[18:33] time the exchange was dramatic and the
[18:35] answer definite.
[18:37] >> Detective Ferman, uh, was the testimony
[18:40] that you gave at the preliminary hearing
[18:42] in this case completely truthful?
[18:46] >> I wish to assert my fifth amendment
[18:48] privilege. And with those words, Mark
[18:51] Ferman added a new twist to the many
[18:53] twists and turns already taken in the
[18:55] Simpson case. Joining us from Boston to
[18:57] discuss the latest testimony, attorney
[18:59] Alan Dersawitz, a member of the OJ
[19:00] Simpson defense team. And Allan, good
[19:02] morning.
[19:03] >> Good morning, John.
[19:04] >> It was incredibly brief, but how
[19:05] significant was this for the defense?
[19:07] >> Very significant because the Supreme
[19:09] Court has said that you can draw an
[19:12] inference of guilt from the invocation
[19:14] of the fifth amendment as long as it's
[19:16] not done by a criminal defendant. For
[19:18] example, had Furman taken the fifth two
[19:20] months ago while he was still a LA
[19:22] policeman, he could have been fired from
[19:24] his job in a civil case, for example, if
[19:26] you're in an automobile accident and you
[19:28] invoke the fifth and you hurt somebody.
[19:30] In the civil case, they can draw an
[19:32] inference of guilt. And we believe that
[19:34] the jury should know that Mark Ferman
[19:36] pleaded the fifth when he was asked if
[19:38] he planted any evidence in this case so
[19:40] that they can draw whatever inference
[19:41] they feel is appropriate in this case.
[19:43] Remember, he's not a criminal defendant,
[19:45] and there's a lot of confusion about
[19:47] what the fifth amendment means. But in a
[19:49] case where a person is not a criminal
[19:51] defendant, it's appropriate to draw an
[19:53] inference from his taking the fifth
[19:54] amendment.
[19:55] >> Now, what more does the defense plan to
[19:56] do now with Furman in his testimony?
[19:58] >> Well, we'd like to put him in front of
[20:00] the jury. We'd like to ask him a series
[20:02] of relevant questions uh that will go
[20:05] toward proving uh that he tampered with
[20:08] evidence. Remember, there's already a
[20:09] lot in the record. Uh, first, Ferman was
[20:12] outside of the crime scene alone for 15
[20:16] minutes in the dark. He said it was in
[20:18] the light, but we now have proof that it
[20:19] was in the dark. The glove itself was
[20:22] damp, as it would have been had it been
[20:23] planted, not if it had been put there at
[20:26] 10:40. It didn't fit. There was
[20:28] suggestion or evidence of blood having
[20:30] been placed on the gate. And so, there
[20:34] is evidence. and the fact that the tape
[20:35] showed that he was capable of planting
[20:37] evidence and now it's capped by the fact
[20:38] that when asked the direct question, he
[20:40] invokes the fifth amendment. Mr.
[20:42] Simpson's rights of confrontation under
[20:44] the Sixth Amendment require that he be
[20:46] able to confront Ferman about his
[20:48] invocation of the Sixth Amendment in
[20:50] front of the jury.
[20:50] >> Yeah, you obviously want that jury to
[20:52] hear him take the fifth. But what what
[20:54] expectations do you have of Judge Eidto
[20:56] that he might throw some roadblocks in
[20:57] here?
[20:58] >> Well, Judge Eto has thrown roadblocks
[20:59] consistently in front of the defense in
[21:01] this case. uh he has a California
[21:04] president to support him. But the Ninth
[21:06] Circuit, which is the United States
[21:07] Court of Appeals, which governs
[21:09] California, has a clear rule that you
[21:11] can draw an inference of guilt from the
[21:13] invocation of the fifth amendment. So, I
[21:16] think we're going to put uh a lot of
[21:18] legal precedent in front of him to argue
[21:20] that he is required under the United
[21:22] States Constitution to give Mr. Simpson
[21:25] the right to confront Ferman with this
[21:27] fifth amendment invocation.
[21:29] >> Alan, let me just ask you. I mean all
[21:30] this attention is being put on Mark
[21:31] Ferman and the evidence he found. But
[21:33] >> what about all the evidence found by
[21:36] others? I mean of blood. Why does this
[21:38] what why should this impact that?
[21:40] >> Well, remember that office of an adder
[21:42] was also found to have lied by judge.
[21:44] Reckless disregard for the truth in a
[21:46] perjured affidavit that he submitted. As
[21:49] far as the other blood is concerned,
[21:50] there's also evidence that there was
[21:52] blood on a gate that didn't exist on the
[21:55] day after the crime and suddenly
[21:57] appeared in photographs uh weeks
[21:59] thereafter. I think the jury is
[22:01] perfectly free to draw inferences uh
[22:03] from what they've heard that as Dr. Lee
[22:06] said, something is wrong with the
[22:08] evidence in this case. And we have built
[22:10] a very substantial circumstantial case
[22:13] sufficient to raise clearly a reasonable
[22:16] doubt about the manner by which the
[22:18] evidence was gathered in this case and
[22:19] evaluated.
[22:20] >> And what about the other testimony
[22:21] yesterday for instance Rodri Hajj?
[22:24] >> Whose testimony?
[22:25] >> The testimony yesterday of Rodri Hajj.
[22:28] >> Oh well that certainly adds into this
[22:31] attack on Furman's credibility. It
[22:33] showed an independent lie. namely uh
[22:37] Ferman had also said that he had never
[22:39] directly addressed an African-American
[22:41] by using that racial epithet. And here
[22:43] was credible testimony not uh
[22:45] cross-examined effectively at all uh
[22:47] which showed that he had used the racial
[22:49] epithet in his work while he was working
[22:51] as a policeman.
[22:53] >> Court above obviously continuing today
[22:55] and we'll check back with you. Thank you
[22:56] Alan.
[22:56] >> Thank you. We'll be back.
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[25:01] Bringing you the spirit of the
[25:03] Northwest. We are KATU
[25:07] now. Channel 2 News.
[25:10] Good morning everyone. I'm Janice Wyel.
[25:12] It's 7:25. Hope your Thursday morning is
[25:13] off to a great start. Here's Dennis
[25:15] Orton with the morning commute. Good
[25:16] morning, Dennis. Well, good morning,
[25:17] Janice. A couple of the problems this
[25:19] morning. One is on Highway 99E, just a
[25:22] little bit north of Cami. We've got
[25:24] problems with an accident there.
[25:25] Lifelight has just left the scene. 99
[25:27] was closed for a while, has just been
[25:29] reopened, but still some lane
[25:31] restrictions. Also, a threec car crash
[25:33] on 238th between Gleason and Holly.
[25:36] Dennis Norton, watch traffic.
[25:38] >> Thank you very much, Dennis. Well, in
[25:40] about 40 minutes, the Senate Ethics
[25:41] Committee is expected to announce its
[25:43] reasons for unanimously voting to expel
[25:45] Bob Pacwood from the Senate. We will
[25:47] bring you that conference live at 8:00.
[25:50] This morning, Bob Pacwood is saying that
[25:52] he will not resign. His Senate seat is
[25:56] not resigned his Senate seat and is
[25:57] gearing up for a fight yesterday.
[25:59] Pacwood immediately reacted to the
[26:00] committee's decision, saying all he has
[26:02] wanted was to get a public hearing and
[26:04] face his accusers. Well, here's what's
[26:05] going to happen next. The committee's
[26:07] recommendation will go to the full
[26:08] Senate where the twothirds of a vote is
[26:11] needed for expulsion. If Pacwood is
[26:14] expelled or resigned, Governor Kitsopper
[26:16] would have to set an election date. And
[26:18] this morning, the governor is among
[26:19] those calling for Senator Pacwood's
[26:21] resignation while taking phone calls on
[26:23] the radio show asked the governor.
[26:25] Kitsopper said the senator should put
[26:27] the interests of his state before his
[26:29] career and advised Pacwood to step down.
[26:31] Well, hippie thrown out of office.
[26:32] Pacwood will lose his retirement pay,
[26:34] health benefits, and privileges of being
[26:36] a senator. In other news, a three alarm
[26:39] fire this morning sent firefighters
[26:41] scrambling to a building described as a
[26:42] large log cabin at 2680 Southwest
[26:46] Scholes Sherwood Road. It's believed a
[26:48] large propane tank explosion set off the
[26:50] fire. Early reports indicate one person
[26:53] is missing. An update now on a shooting
[26:55] that left one man dead and neighbors in
[26:57] shock. 24-year-old Robert Bradford was
[26:59] shot and killed early Tuesday morning
[27:01] after a woman alleged Bradford
[27:02] confronted her in her home. The killing
[27:04] shocked his wife and parents who say
[27:06] Robert had no reason to attack anyone. A
[27:08] grand jury will decide if the shooting
[27:10] was in self-defense. Ron Peterson has
[27:12] our forecast. Good morning, Ron.
[27:14] >> Good morning, Janice. We're looking at
[27:15] cloudy skies and a temperature of about
[27:18] 60° here in the Rose City. Let's turn to
[27:20] the satellite photo real quick and see
[27:22] what we can see with Hurricane Luis.
[27:24] There's the close-up view of it. It is
[27:27] 220 miles north of San Juan, Puerto
[27:30] Rico. And with that, we will see that
[27:33] it's going to move for the most part,
[27:35] oh, in this general direction. So that
[27:38] Bermuda may be the next land area to be
[27:41] concerned. And that's two or three days
[27:43] off yet. Low pressure system steers it
[27:45] this way. May keep it away from the
[27:47] continental US. But still, we just have
[27:50] to keep an eye on category 4, Hurricane
[27:52] Luis. Scattered showers. is the Portland
[27:54] forecast with a high of 73 degrees
[27:56] today. Winds from the northwest. We'll
[27:57] see some partial clearing tomorrow
[27:59] afternoon. We'll see sunshine Saturday,
[28:00] Sunday, and Monday as the temperatures
[28:02] push back up toward 80° for the weekend.
[28:04] That's the weather, Janice. Back to you.
[28:06] >> Thanks, Ron. And thanks for making us a
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[29:56] >> Next, Sally. Will a wife forgive the
[29:58] affair with a babysitter?
[30:05] from the Federal Aviation
[30:07] Administration's automated flight
[30:09] service station at Prescuit, Arizona.
[30:12] >> Good morning, America.
[30:16] >> And good morning everyone. I'm Joan
[30:17] London.
[30:18] >> I'm Charles Gibson. It is Thursday,
[30:20] September 7th. Good to have you with us.
[30:22] Congratulations, Cal. But we'll talk
[30:23] more about that.
[30:24] >> A lot going on. We are going to continue
[30:25] our coverage of the OJ Simpson trial in
[30:27] this half hour. First up, Rodri Hodgej,
[30:29] the first African-American witness to
[30:31] tell the jury that detective Mark Ferman
[30:33] did in fact use a racial slur in direct
[30:36] contradiction to Ferman's own testimony.
[30:38] And this was just one of several
[30:40] bombshells from the trial yesterday. And
[30:42] we will discuss them all with our legal
[30:44] editor, Arthur Miller, and a reporter
[30:46] who has been covering the trial since
[30:47] the first day.
[30:49] >> And back to baseball in this half hour.
[30:51] Baseball as we never thought we'd see it
[30:52] again. The record everyone thought
[30:54] couldn't be broken has been broken. Last
[30:56] night in Baltimore, Cal Ripken Jr. beat
[30:58] the record set by Lou Garri in 1939 for
[31:01] consecutive games played. Cal played
[31:03] game number 2,131
[31:06] and it turned him into a into a legend.
[31:09] In just a few moments, we'll take a look
[31:10] at the man and the moment that made
[31:12] history. But let's get to the news and
[31:13] Morton Dean. Morton Charlie, former
[31:15] detective Mark Ferman is a man behind a
[31:18] new shield, the fifth amendment. Without
[31:20] the jury present, Ferman refused to
[31:22] answer questions. Three questions. Had
[31:24] he lied in previous testimony? Had he
[31:27] ever filed a false report? Or had he
[31:29] planted evidence against OJ Simpson? OJ
[31:32] Simpson's lawyers are now fighting to
[31:34] bring Ferman in for a repeat performance
[31:37] this time with the jury present. Senator
[31:40] Bob Pacwood says he won't resign, but
[31:42] the members of the Senate Ethics
[31:43] Committee want him to go voluntarily or
[31:46] involuntarily.
[31:47] All six members voted to expel Pacwood
[31:50] from the Senate for sexual and official
[31:52] misconduct. Pacwood complains he's being
[31:54] treated unfairly. Federal agents defend
[31:57] their much debated siege at Ruby Ridge
[31:59] before a Senate committee today. There
[32:02] was tearful testimony yesterday from the
[32:04] white separatist who was the object of
[32:06] the siege. ABC's Julie Johnson is
[32:09] covering that story.
[32:11] >> The hearings gave Randy Weaver a chance
[32:13] to tell his side of the story about what
[32:15] happened three years ago on an Idaho
[32:17] mountain called Ruby Ridge. Federal
[32:20] agents staked out his cabin and planned
[32:21] to apprehend Weaver after he failed to
[32:24] appear in court on gun charges. But in
[32:26] the process, agents killed his dog. Then
[32:29] they gunned down his 14-year-old son,
[32:31] Samuel.
[32:32] >> We just went berserk.
[32:34] All of us. We just lost it. And my
[32:38] wife's going, "He's not dead. He can't
[32:40] be