Wake Up Live W/ Christopher DeSimone Ep. 429 - Hessam Rahimian, David Schweikert, John Winchester
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[0:47] Good morning and welcome to Wake Up with
[0:49] [music] Chris Christopher D. Simone.
[0:52] Obviously, I am not Christopher D.
[0:54] Simone and neither is my [music] guest
[0:56] host. So, you will be stuck with Ted
[0:59] Maxwell, president, CEO of the [music]
[1:01] Southern Airs Leadership Council, and
[1:03] Shelley Kis. Uh I'm sure Shel will bring
[1:07] all the [music] wisdom to the show
[1:08] today. We will make it uh work out, but
[1:11] we both are honored to sit in for Chris
[1:14] today. We've got a great show uh lined
[1:16] up for you. Uh at the bottom of the
[1:18] hour, we'll be joined by Hassim Rime.
[1:21] Uh, and he's as always providing us with
[1:23] the latest. The thing is Sam will not be
[1:26] here in the studio with us today and he
[1:29] won't be in his studio at home either.
[1:31] So, we'll we'll see where he's checking
[1:33] in from. We know uh he's doing big
[1:35] things uh continuing to keep everybody
[1:38] informed on the reality of uh the the
[1:40] the nation of Iran and what's going on
[1:43] over there. So, I look forward to
[1:44] talking to Assam. He's he's incredibly
[1:46] intelligent. That will be a great
[1:47] conversation. Speaking of intelligent,
[1:49] we'll be joined by Congressman David
[1:51] Schwiker at the top of the 8 o'clock or
[1:54] the top of the 7 o'clock hour. And then
[1:56] for the last closing segment, John
[1:59] Winchester, Republican candidate for
[2:01] LD17 House, will be with us to give us
[2:04] an update of where all that sits. So,
[2:06] how are you doing today, Shel?
[2:07] >> I'm doing great. How are you, Ted?
[2:09] >> I'm doing good. You know,
[2:10] >> this is exciting.
[2:11] >> This is This is fun.
[2:13] >> I think Chris is calling this the Shell
[2:15] Ted.
[2:16] >> Yes, he's he's trying to tag it. I
[2:17] haven't quite figured out how it is. I'm
[2:19] sure he's just sitting back chuckling
[2:20] somewhere and uh Christopher will be
[2:22] back with you tomorrow for the show,
[2:24] >> but uh today he's asked us to come in
[2:26] and sit in. And I always appreciate this
[2:28] opportunity because there's nobody who
[2:30] has been uh quite as engaged as you have
[2:32] with the Republican party here in Pima
[2:34] County. So, I'm always looking to you
[2:36] for an update on on what what's the
[2:39] latest and what's how you're feeling,
[2:40] especially heading into three weeks
[2:42] away. And you know, I'm going to I'm
[2:44] going to say it. We need to make sure
[2:46] everybody votes. There's not any reason
[2:50] to not vote. You need to get out there.
[2:52] You need to be heard. And uh if you
[2:55] don't, then as the old saying goes, you
[2:58] really shouldn't be complaining about
[2:59] the outcomes. So, you got to make sure
[3:00] if you've got your ballot and it's not
[3:02] in yet, please fill it out. You can take
[3:04] it down to a voting center. You can drop
[3:05] it in the mailbox until about the 27th.
[3:07] Uh there's a lot of different ways. And
[3:08] if you want to show up on November 3rd,
[3:10] you can do that, too. So, so what are
[3:11] you hearing on the front on how the uh
[3:14] vote in this this region and in the
[3:15] state's going so far?
[3:17] >> So, first off, if you if you look
[3:20] yesterday, Georgia broke broke all
[3:22] records over 180,000 people on the first
[3:24] day of voting. So, this midterm is so
[3:28] important and people are getting it. So,
[3:29] they're showing up to vote and I think
[3:31] we're going to see that here in Arizona,
[3:33] too. Uh I just came back from the
[3:35] Arizona Federation of Republican Women
[3:37] weekend conference up in Prescuit. It
[3:40] was amazing. Uh we had uh just just to
[3:45] kind of give you an idea of what a
[3:46] lineup at ACFRW looks like, we had
[3:49] Congressman Gossar Crane Buret from
[3:53] Tennessee and Clyde from Georgia.
[3:57] Uh we had a conversations with Congress.
[4:00] We had Representative Basuchi and
[4:02] Senator Finchum talking about the
[4:04] legislature. Uh, and then we spent the
[4:08] day stuffing over 2,000 sleeves for
[4:12] distribution. We made 2,700 phone calls.
[4:15] We sent out almost 600 postcards. Uh,
[4:19] and by the way, to get postcard stamps,
[4:22] we had to go down to Tumacry, I think
[4:24] that's how you say it, and Rio Rico.
[4:28] There there are no postcard stamps. Wow.
[4:30] >> I mean, it's uh finding postcard stamps
[4:33] is something. So, you know what that
[4:34] tells me? Everybody is hard at work
[4:37] sending things out and we did texting.
[4:39] So, we had a huge effort and you know
[4:42] what? It was the first time I've seen
[4:45] the RNC, the ACGOP and the ACFRW all
[4:49] partner together to work on a campaign.
[4:52] And so, I'm really excited. I'm feeling
[4:54] good about this.
[4:55] >> Well, there's no doubts nationwide the
[4:56] midterms have gotten a lot of attention,
[4:58] but in Arizona, they're just as
[5:00] important as ever. the I mean
[5:03] >> I won't say everything's up for grabs.
[5:05] We know that in this state 25 of the 30
[5:08] districts should be fairly safe for one
[5:11] party or the other, but uh LD17 is one
[5:14] down here. That's why I'm excited to
[5:15] have John Winchester in. It's it's one
[5:16] that's considered considered a little
[5:18] bit of a battleground for control of the
[5:20] the House and the Senate and the state
[5:22] of Arizona.
[5:23] >> Yeah. And I'm not sure about that. I
[5:25] don't understand that. We need all the
[5:27] Republicans up there at LG17 to just uh
[5:30] pull up your boots and get out there and
[5:32] go vote. And you know, I I think the
[5:35] thing that really frustrates me, Ted, is
[5:38] that you may not like the individual,
[5:42] okay? Uh but what happens is when they
[5:45] all get there in January, they go
[5:48] through and they put a little red stripe
[5:50] or a blue stripe on their nose. Then
[5:52] they count those stripes and those
[5:54] stripes decide who's going to be the
[5:56] chairman of those committees and that's
[5:59] decides what's going to get through.
[6:01] It's that simple.
[6:03] >> It it it actually it is that's the best
[6:05] way to explain it and all you have to do
[6:06] is look at the number of uh legislative
[6:09] actions and bills that actually pass and
[6:12] make it to the governor's signatur
[6:14] governor's desk. It may all not get
[6:15] signed by the governor,
[6:16] >> but the number of bills that go up, the
[6:19] percentage is well north of 90%.
[6:22] >> Are coming from the majority party?
[6:24] >> Yep.
[6:24] >> And that's not going to matter if it's
[6:26] Republican or Democrat. That's how the
[6:27] game is played. And and the control
[6:30] exists in those uh committees like you
[6:33] mentioned. And the majority party will
[6:35] have the chair of all of those
[6:38] committees. It makes a huge difference
[6:39] on not only the legislation you can talk
[6:41] about, but the legislation that even
[6:43] gets heard
[6:44] >> and and it's the chairman of those
[6:46] committee that make the decision. And so
[6:50] if the chairman of all those committees
[6:51] is a Democrat,
[6:54] we you know, Representative Basuchi,
[6:56] he's he's just a hoot. Uh he was sharing
[7:00] with us some examples of some Democrat
[7:02] bills and I mean he some of them are
[7:06] just funny. They're just funny. You
[7:08] can't even imagine that people would
[7:10] write that. Uh but so, you know, it's a
[7:14] math game. Uh we also had one of our
[7:16] speakers, Nathan Jackson, who's the
[7:18] political director for Restoration of
[7:20] America. He was talking about how he's
[7:23] just really not a math guy, but this is
[7:26] really all about math and he's learned
[7:29] that.
[7:29] >> That's that's very true.
[7:30] >> And that's where we are today. So, in
[7:32] LD17, let's look at the the
[7:35] registration. let's look at the numbers
[7:37] and then let's go out and vote. A
[7:39] >> and the in, you know, the thing people
[7:41] have to understand, you hear that uh
[7:43] Arizona's becoming a purple state. And I
[7:44] think if you look at our politics and
[7:46] where it rolls out, it's it's it's
[7:48] starting to to trend that, but that's
[7:50] really more about the number of the rise
[7:52] of the independents necessarily than the
[7:54] rise of the Republicans. Republicans
[7:55] still have about a 320,000
[7:58] voter advantage in the state of Arizona.
[8:01] yet we've got so many of these races
[8:04] that are going to be incredibly tight.
[8:06] Um because there's there's only about a
[8:08] 20,000 30,000 you may have a better
[8:10] number than me advantage between the
[8:12] Republicans and the independents.
[8:13] >> Right
[8:14] >> now all independents they're they're not
[8:16] independent. They most of them vote like
[8:18] the party they came from because you
[8:20] know that's been a a segment of the
[8:22] voting populace. Um, what have you seen
[8:25] as far as the Republicans outreach to
[8:26] those independents or try to at least
[8:28] ensure that the former Republican
[8:30] independents are are coming back to uh
[8:33] to roost?
[8:34] >> So, I live in the largest precinct in
[8:36] Puma County, precinct 84, um, just by
[8:39] sheer number and also the largest
[8:42] Republican precinct. Um, what we're
[8:46] doing is we've gone through and we've
[8:48] hit all of our Republicans. We've we
[8:52] have quite an operation down there. Uh
[8:55] and now we're going through and we're uh
[8:57] hitting the de the independents. And
[8:59] what we do is we focus on those
[9:01] independents that pulled a Republican
[9:03] ballot in the primary because we know
[9:05] they're coming out. They're 4x4 voters.
[9:08] So make sure that you go after those
[9:10] independents and remind them to come and
[9:13] vote. Uh, but I I actually think the
[9:16] independents as more and more stuff is
[9:19] coming out, I think they're going to
[9:21] lean over to the right. I really do. I
[9:23] think they're they're going to see the
[9:25] advantages of this. You know, there was
[9:27] a report that just came out and it's
[9:29] about, you know, where states are in
[9:33] their fiscal responsibility. And as you
[9:35] know, I am my my deal is fiscal
[9:38] responsibility. I am probably far more
[9:41] to the right than even you, Ted,
[9:43] [clears throat]
[9:44] uh, when it comes to fiscal
[9:45] responsibility. And North Dakota came
[9:47] out number one.
[9:49] But who do you see at the bottom?
[9:51] California, Illinois, New York. Those
[9:54] people are not fiscally responsible. And
[9:57] who runs those states?
[9:58] >> Where was Arizona?
[10:00] >> You know what? I couldn't find Arizona
[10:01] on the list. [laughter]
[10:02] >> Okay, that's a bad sign.
[10:04] >> We didn't make the list at all. That's
[10:06] not good. Well, I think we're on the
[10:08] list, but we're not number one and we're
[10:10] not number 50. So, that's the good news.
[10:12] Uh, but I mean, let's look at some of
[10:15] the stuff we're facing here in Arizona.
[10:17] It is an embarrassment
[10:20] that we are not able to do an audit of
[10:23] our agencies.
[10:24] How can you possibly consider voting for
[10:28] a governor who for four years has either
[10:31] been late on the submission of the audit
[10:34] or hasn't done it at all? She is now
[10:37] saying that she will get the tw I
[10:40] believe it's the 25 audit
[10:42] submitted one month after the 26 audit
[10:46] is due.
[10:47] >> Historically, can you talk about that?
[10:49] When when when in the past have those
[10:52] audits been accomplished? They have they
[10:54] were accomplished under the Ducy
[10:56] administration
[10:57] >> and and uh you know timing sometimes
[10:59] sometimes we get wrapped up in the
[11:01] timing of everything but when you've
[11:03] only accomplished one over four years
[11:05] that's saying the focus isn't where it
[11:08] should be
[11:10] >> and and I agree with that. So I mean
[11:12] that's just the competence of that's
[11:14] just management. That's just good
[11:16] management. But here's the thing. Right
[11:18] now, the University of Arizona, ASU, um,
[11:22] Northern Arizona University, they are
[11:25] having missed opportunities
[11:27] because there are grants that they
[11:29] cannot apply for and and putting us in a
[11:33] position, you know, hand tying us so
[11:37] that we can't compete. That's what's
[11:40] going on right now. That's what we're
[11:42] seeing and that's what worries me the
[11:44] most. And even considering giving that
[11:48] governor another four years is is just
[11:51] it just doesn't make sense to me. Why?
[11:53] When you go to a restaurant and you get
[11:56] bad service, you don't keep going back
[12:00] to see if you continue to get bad
[12:02] service. And we've done that now for
[12:04] four years in a row. We've gotten bad
[12:07] service. We're not managing our
[12:09] resources. we're not managing our our
[12:12] the uh money that's coming into the
[12:14] state, the federal money. And you know
[12:16] what? Say what you want. For two more
[12:18] years, we're going to have a Republican
[12:21] administration in Washington DC. And
[12:23] there is an assistant secretary sitting
[12:25] at HHS that is going to make a decision
[12:28] about Arizona.
[12:29] >> Well, that is that is very true. And
[12:31] again, this this all goes back to this
[12:34] is our opportunity to have our voice.
[12:37] We're, you know, three weeks away.
[12:39] You've got to get the ballots in. If
[12:40] you're if you're going to mail it in,
[12:42] please get it in before the 27th. If
[12:43] you're going to carry your ballot, your
[12:45] early voter ballot into any of the
[12:47] polling uh places. Please show your ID.
[12:52] That means it doesn't go through the
[12:54] signature verification process. It
[12:56] immediately will get marked, especially
[12:57] the closer you get to election day. I
[12:59] mean, one of the things we've always
[13:01] been concerned about because in the
[13:02] nation we sometimes look foolish because
[13:05] we'll have an election and 7 days later
[13:07] we're still trying to tell you who won.
[13:09] >> Ask Juan Ciscoani.
[13:10] >> Exactly. And and speaking of close
[13:13] races, you know, we're we're going to
[13:14] have several close races in this uh in
[13:17] this county in Puma County, but
[13:19] throughout the state of Arizona. So, I
[13:22] I'm personally this year decided I'm
[13:23] gonna take my early voter ballot because
[13:25] I've voted by mail since I joined the
[13:27] military back in the in 1980. So, I've
[13:30] always been
[13:31] >> I know, scary. I'm old. I'm old. That's
[13:33] that's all there is to it.
[13:35] >> So, that I've I've always been a voter
[13:37] by mail and I believe it's important to
[13:39] have that as an option.
[13:40] >> So, so can I give a shout out?
[13:42] >> Absolutely.
[13:43] >> I want to give a shout out to Constance
[13:45] Hardrove.
[13:47] She is the director of
[13:48] >> Look, look at you giving a shout out to
[13:50] Pima County.
[13:51] >> Well, I'm gonna tell you why. Um, I am
[13:55] gonna say why. I I was probably the one
[13:59] that spoke out against hiring her
[14:02] several years ago. So, I've paid very
[14:04] close attention and she's done an
[14:06] excellent job. I just finished last
[14:09] night. I just finished my poleworker
[14:12] training
[14:14] and I did the online course and of
[14:16] course I have to go do an in-person
[14:18] course as well. So you're going to get
[14:20] about 8 hours of training before you
[14:22] even
[14:22] >> That's good to hear.
[14:23] >> Okay. So now what you just said a lot of
[14:27] people don't know the ID verified drop
[14:30] off is new and she and and she addresses
[14:35] it in the online training. It's
[14:38] excellent online training if you're a
[14:40] pole worker and and it's um I I don't I
[14:44] I probably shouldn't say this, but
[14:46] [laughter]
[14:47] you know how sometimes you try and skip
[14:49] ahead
[14:50] >> because you think you could pass the
[14:51] quiz without taking the training? You
[14:53] can't do that.
[14:55] >> You got to listen. You got to sit there
[14:57] and participate in the training. And
[14:59] after every module, and there's seven
[15:01] modules, you have to take a test.
[15:03] >> And if you miss the test, do you have to
[15:04] go watch the module again?
[15:05] >> Oh, yeah. because you have to get 80% or
[15:08] above. But the ID verified. So what
[15:11] you're talking about, what a great idea
[15:14] that our legislators passed and she has
[15:18] implemented and there will be a separate
[15:21] table that you'll go to with your ballot
[15:24] all sealed in the envelope. You'll go
[15:27] you'll show your ID and that will go in
[15:30] a separate box and it will go straight
[15:33] to tabulation instead of going through
[15:36] the signature verification process. So
[15:38] if you want to take your ballot in,
[15:40] don't just drop it off. Go get it
[15:43] verified.
[15:44] >> Absolutely. And especially if you're
[15:46] going to do it on election day.
[15:48] >> Oh my gosh.
[15:48] >> Because your vote your your ballots will
[15:50] be tabulated the same time every ballot
[15:52] that's that's coming in and getting
[15:54] voted for and verified. So you don't
[15:56] have to wait. If you want your vote to
[15:58] count, please do it right. Thank you for
[16:00] being a volunteer. How are
[16:02] >> Oh, I'm not volunteering. I'll get paid
[16:05] minimum wage.
[16:05] >> You're going to get paid the minimum
[16:07] wage that So do all uh the folks who
[16:10] work at the polling places as observers.
[16:13] >> Not observers, poll workers. So I'm
[16:15] going to there's
[16:16] >> Thank you for clarifying that. So if
[16:17] anybody's wants to sign up to be an
[16:19] observer, realize you're not going to
[16:20] make minimum wage,
[16:21] >> but but you will be there to be part of
[16:23] the process. And that process is is so
[16:25] important. So
[16:28] how many pole workers
[16:32] >> well
[16:32] >> are there and how how do you go about
[16:34] signing? That's something that I'm
[16:36] learning new stuff here today.
[16:37] >> Well, so when you think about it, at
[16:39] every poll, there is an inspector who's
[16:42] the boss, the marshall who maintains the
[16:45] marshall business, maintains law and
[16:48] order, if you will. Uh you'll have two
[16:50] clerks, you'll have an equipment
[16:52] specialist, and you'll have two judges,
[16:56] and so there's I think 129 polls uh vote
[17:00] centers. So times seven. I mean, it's
[17:03] it's a and there's rovers that are
[17:06] members of of the election staff that
[17:08] will come. But it's uh it's quite an
[17:11] operation. And yes, and last night on
[17:14] Next Door, I saw one of my neighbors
[17:16] post that she dropped her ballot off at
[17:20] the drive-thru in Saurita
[17:22] and by 3:00 she got noticed that it was
[17:26] going to tabulation.
[17:27] >> This this the system works. I know
[17:29] there's a lot of folks that doubt it,
[17:31] that think it's, you know,
[17:34] every system will be played by people
[17:36] who want to influence outcomes. We know
[17:37] that. But it's if you get involved and
[17:40] if people like you, Shelley, step in and
[17:42] do the both the work and the
[17:44] observation.
[17:46] I I'm one of those that is 100%
[17:49] confident that our election outcomes are
[17:51] accurate. Does that mean there's fraud
[17:53] or there's folks that are doing things?
[17:55] Of course there is. There's always
[17:56] people always try to get around the
[17:58] system, but it's not significant enough
[17:59] because of people like you
[18:01] >> who are willing to work and the
[18:02] observers that are out there willing to
[18:04] watch and make sure that everything
[18:06] goes. It it would be such a difficult
[18:09] thing to overcome. And I know some
[18:10] people probably listening are going,
[18:12] "Oh, it's not that hard to overcome." It
[18:14] I think it's a lot harder. And to your
[18:16] point on Constra, thank you for giving
[18:17] her a shout out. So many people don't
[18:20] understand the difference between the
[18:21] county recorder and the county elections
[18:23] director.
[18:24] One's to run the system.
[18:26] >> Yep.
[18:27] >> And the others to provide oversight.
[18:29] Different stories.
[18:30] >> Yep. Yep. I think she I think she's been
[18:33] here probably four years now. It's been
[18:35] about four years. And I you know the
[18:38] training that I went through last night
[18:40] and this isn't my first election as a a
[18:42] worker.
[18:43] >> It's not your first rodeo.
[18:44] >> No. And I actually worked out in cells.
[18:47] I went to cells one year because they
[18:50] have such a hard time
[18:51] >> Absolutely.
[18:52] >> uh getting somebody out there because in
[18:53] my case if I'm going to be a marshal
[18:56] then the inspector has to be a Democrat.
[18:59] >> So what's a marshall? So, a marshall is
[19:02] I'm going to be the one that goes and
[19:04] make sure sets the 75 ft line. Okay.
[19:07] >> I'm going to in a loud voice announce
[19:10] that the polls are open at 6.
[19:12] >> That's kind of like a ceremony. That
[19:13] could be fun.
[19:14] >> It is. It's going to be great fun. And
[19:16] then at 7:00 p.m., I will go stand
[19:19] behind the last person in line and that
[19:22] will be the last person that gets vote.
[19:25] You are literally the person that's
[19:28] going to stand there and say it's all
[19:29] over and have to turn people away. Oh
[19:31] man, you could have some people that
[19:32] might get a little angry. But again,
[19:34] don't wait till 7:00.
[19:36] >> Exactly. Don't show up at 6. Well, 7:01.
[19:38] >> Yeah. 7:01. Shel's going to do her job.
[19:41] Get your balance in early. So, we have
[19:42] one thing we haven't done yet is we
[19:44] haven't gone and said say good morning
[19:45] to the wakies and and we've got a pretty
[19:47] pretty good turnout here on the live
[19:49] chat. That's the one I'm going through
[19:50] the YouTube live chat. Uh the Holdens
[19:53] are awake at 67 degrees at Moonshine
[19:55] Manor. That's actually a pretty decent
[19:57] uh temperature for Moonshine Manor. I
[19:59] mean, I come down farther and and Dr.
[20:01] Neil's got 36 a crisp 36 degrees in the
[20:03] Metroplex.
[20:04] >> Um Mother Mcker, thank you for being on
[20:06] board as always. The the Paresies are
[20:08] are listening. Pat, good morning to you
[20:10] as well. Uh
[20:13] >> as I stroll through this, Katherine
[20:16] Weasel, it wouldn't be a morning without
[20:17] Weasel on the on the thing saying good
[20:19] morning to all all the wakies out there.
[20:21] So, it's good good to have you in there,
[20:23] Big Dave. We're we're hoping that you
[20:25] will all continue to comment and
[20:27] participate throughout the show. That's
[20:28] one thing Chris does a very good job at
[20:30] is keeping uh his his listeners and
[20:32] everybody engaged. And so, we appreciate
[20:35] you being here. Um,
[20:38] speaking speaking of Katherine Weasel,
[20:39] she'd like everybody to know CD7
[20:41] candidate Daniel Boutier is having an
[20:43] event today out at the El Rico Park 6
[20:46] p.m. So, if you can show up at out at
[20:48] the El Rio Park and and enjoy him out
[20:50] there, she'd greatly appreciate that.
[20:52] And she too has done all of her
[20:54] training. Um, and she's a little bit
[20:57] more concerned about the fraud in the uh
[20:59] recorder's office and education. So,
[21:02] there, like I said, there are folks out
[21:03] there. The important thing is what I
[21:05] appreciate about people like Katherine
[21:07] is she's going to complain, but she's
[21:10] also going to get involved.
[21:11] >> She is a hard what we need to do. We
[21:13] need to have folks out there that are
[21:14] willing willing to get engaged and get
[21:17] involved.
[21:18] >> So, there's another thing that came out
[21:19] yesterday and we've I think got about 20
[21:21] minutes, Tony. So, I know you'll let me
[21:23] know when we need to go to our first
[21:25] break or maybe a little earlier than
[21:26] that before we are joined by Assam
[21:30] Raheem to talk a little bit about the
[21:32] what's going on in the the Middle East
[21:34] at this point. He's
[21:38] Well, let's real real quick. We want to
[21:40] throw out one thing. Let's give us about
[21:42] we'll go about five more minutes long if
[21:44] that's okay with you, Tony. All right.
[21:46] It's always good to have that voice in
[21:48] the air keeping you on as as I like to
[21:50] say on time and on target, you know, if
[21:52] you if you stray.
[21:54] >> There was an op-ed yesterday written by
[21:56] supervisor Steve Christie in in the
[21:59] Arizona uh Daily Star and it was uh
[22:03] putting out for the no on Prop 425. 425
[22:07] is the permanent and it is permanent um
[22:10] base increase to the expenditure
[22:12] limitation for Pimac County. it uh the
[22:15] books will tell you it's going up $70
[22:17] million. It's an increase, but that's
[22:18] cuz it's taking the $91 million that was
[22:21] set as that limit in 1980 and making it
[22:24] $161
[22:25] in $181.
[22:27] And that translates to about $610
[22:30] million that it will increase what is
[22:32] currently the Pumac County uh
[22:34] limitation. That increase will occur
[22:36] right after. It doesn't result in
[22:38] immediate taxation, doesn't result in
[22:40] immediate expenditures, but it opens a
[22:42] door. And I the headline of Steve's uh
[22:44] op-ed was why give the county a blank
[22:47] check.
[22:48] >> What are your thoughts on Prop 425?
[22:51] >> No.
[22:52] >> That's an that's an easy answer.
[22:54] >> No. And it's not that I haven't thought
[22:56] about it. I I am a financial manager. I
[22:58] get it. I understand particularly
[23:00] government finance and I think this is a
[23:03] very dangerous position to open the door
[23:06] as Supervisor Christie said. Uh you
[23:09] don't want to give them a blank check.
[23:11] Uh, and we we need more accountability
[23:15] than what we're seeing from our board of
[23:17] supervisors. And I'm very concerned that
[23:19] we would consider this. I think Pima
[23:21] County is bordering on a financial
[23:24] crisis. We're getting ready to uh change
[23:27] hands with the uh retirement of Jan
[23:31] Leer. And so, I think that this is not
[23:34] the time for us to uh just give them the
[23:37] keys to the kingdom. And in and my op
[23:40] opinion on this is is I'm also a no on
[23:43] 425 personally. That's my that's my
[23:44] opinion. That's how I'll be voting. Uh I
[23:47] look at the 15 counties in the in the
[23:50] state of Arizona. Seven of them have
[23:51] already authorized increases in their
[23:53] expenditure limitations from those base
[23:55] numbers set in 1980. It goes up based on
[23:58] population, goes up based on uh the the
[24:02] economy, you know, with some of the the
[24:04] indexes that they use. But it it's been
[24:06] running behind and Puma County is up
[24:08] against their expenditure limitation
[24:09] right now. They are at the point
[24:11] >> there's the key
[24:12] >> and they are up against theirs. that
[24:13] prevents them from doing other things
[24:15] they may want to do like raise some
[24:18] taxes from some of the taxing districts
[24:19] they've got to do the things that as uh
[24:21] supervisor Christie points out are in
[24:23] their control and there's there is
[24:25] obviously a lot of programs they want
[24:26] and the challenge has been we've
[24:28] received so much COVID and federal
[24:30] funding since 2020 and that money is
[24:34] expiring or has is no longer coming in
[24:37] and there's a lot of programs and once
[24:39] programs are in place people don't like
[24:41] to give them up and the board of
[24:43] supervisors right now want to keep a lot
[24:45] of these programs that were funded,
[24:49] some needed, some maybe not back in the
[24:51] day um from by the federal government
[24:53] that aren't anymore. They want to turn
[24:54] it into a local funding stream, which
[24:56] means ultimately if you do this, there
[25:00] will be increases in taxes and funding
[25:01] that's going to come along with it.
[25:03] Whether they want to acknowledge that or
[25:04] not, that's not why I'm know as much. I
[25:06] know they've got to address the
[25:08] expenditure limitation. I'm against it
[25:11] because of the size of the increase.
[25:14] They looked at three different things,
[25:15] 25%, 50% or 75% increase, and they
[25:18] picked 75%.
[25:21] Cookanino County just did one and they
[25:22] did 75%. It's a huge change. Maricopa
[25:26] County, when they did theirs, they have
[25:27] passed an increase. They increased
[25:30] theirs by, I believe the actual number
[25:31] was 14%, but 14 or 15%. And in
[25:35] discussions with the board of
[25:36] supervisors, I said, "Why didn't you
[25:37] consider that lower number?" Well, then
[25:40] we'd have to go back to the voters in
[25:42] five or 10 years. And I'm going, what's
[25:43] wrong with going back to the voters?
[25:45] >> We we are supposed to be able to provide
[25:48] oversight and
[25:50] control, some control to what our
[25:53] elected officials do, but not when you
[25:54] set up a number that they believe will
[25:56] be 20 to 25 years before they will butt
[25:59] up against the um expenditure limitation
[26:03] again at current growth rates. That's
[26:05] without increasing in taxes, but they've
[26:08] got limits on how much they can
[26:09] increase, but they can, and you're
[26:11] already hearing talk about it. So,
[26:13] that's my my reason for it. But I
[26:15] appreciate Supervisor Christie as always
[26:16] stepping up and putting something in
[26:18] print and out there in front and telling
[26:20] everybody this this is not the right way
[26:22] to do this. There's a right way to raise
[26:23] the expenditure limitation. This is not
[26:24] it.
[26:25] >> This is not it. This is definitely not
[26:28] it. And and what has happened is all of
[26:31] that COVID money, I think you hit the
[26:33] nail right on the head. And whether it's
[26:34] in our school districts or in our county
[26:36] government, everybody just just got
[26:39] drunk on the money. [laughter]
[26:41] And so now here we are and we've we're
[26:44] going to have to we're going to have to,
[26:46] you know, tighten our belt. This is like
[26:49] uh all this money going away and all of
[26:51] a sudden people just like you said, they
[26:53] don't want to give up these programs.
[26:55] >> Absolutely. So that's that's you've got
[26:57] you've got two nos on 425 from from the
[27:00] two of us. And again, vote how you feel
[27:02] you feel fit, but please vote. Real
[27:05] quick, popular national days today.
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[33:21] Welcome back. You're joining us on Wake
[33:24] Up with Chris [music] Christopher D.
[33:26] Simone, but today you've got uh Ted
[33:28] Maxwell and Shelley Kis. Shelley, that
[33:30] was a we talked about if we'd be able to
[33:32] fill the first half hour, but as you
[33:34] told me, don't worry. If we needed to,
[33:36] we could fill all two hours. But
[33:37] luckily, we don't have to do that.
[33:39] >> That's a good thing. But we could
[33:41] >> that that that we could appreciate all
[33:43] the comments that are flowing through on
[33:44] the live chat. Uh, one of the ones that
[33:47] uh was was dropped on the the live chat
[33:49] was there's really no limits on the
[33:50] special taxing districts like the
[33:52] library districts. I'm I'm going to have
[33:54] to go do a little more research on that.
[33:56] I thought they had limits too. I know
[33:57] there are and the property tax what the
[33:59] county can do unilaterally, but uh you
[34:02] know that again it goes back to the
[34:03] premise on that one. It's just
[34:07] 25 20 to 25 years is too long to wait to
[34:09] come back to the taxpayers and ask them
[34:11] if they like what you're doing with
[34:12] their money.
[34:13] >> And it's a permanent increase. It does.
[34:15] It doesn't It doesn't go down. So,
[34:18] >> all right. Well, what we have for you
[34:21] now, it's always great. I finally have
[34:23] had the opportunity to meet Hassam
[34:25] Rahmian in person uh at one of the
[34:28] events that uh Christopher D. Simone was
[34:31] putting on and uh I was I was really
[34:34] honored to do it. Sir, thank you for
[34:36] joining us today. you don't have Chris,
[34:38] but you've got Ted and Shel with you to
[34:40] talk about what uh what's going on and
[34:42] appreciate you you joining us on the
[34:44] stream.
[34:46] >> Ted and Shelly, it's a pleasure to be
[34:49] here with you and it is certainly an
[34:52] honor to be able to provide some insight
[34:56] while I'm traveling here in Washington
[34:58] DC. It's good to be here. Well, I
[35:01] appreciate you answering that question
[35:02] because that was going to be the next
[35:03] one is I I know you're not at your own
[35:05] uh office space and you're not here with
[35:07] us in the studio. We appreciate you uh
[35:09] taking the time to call in from
[35:11] Washington DC. So, let's just put that
[35:13] right on the table. Sir, what what are
[35:15] what are you currently doing in
[35:17] Washington DC?
[35:19] >> Absolutely. As you and the listeners
[35:22] know, u the Islamic regime for 47 years
[35:26] has kidnapped Iran hostage, 90 million
[35:29] people. And throughout these years,
[35:32] President Trump finally was one of the
[35:36] only presidents that decided to actually
[35:39] make a difference and took this task on
[35:43] by attacking the Islamic regime with the
[35:46] hopes of dissolving this regime for once
[35:48] and for all. and hopefully provide a
[35:51] world a safer place and an ally like
[35:54] Iran was to us uh before the 1979
[36:00] um Islamic regime takeover. Having said
[36:02] that, there has been a lot of ups and
[36:04] downs. Um I am one of those uh people
[36:08] that decided to do what I can to be the
[36:11] voice of Iranians. Uh my brothers and
[36:14] sisters in Iran don't have the voice. uh
[36:17] often they don't have access to
[36:19] internet. Recently up to 90 days of
[36:22] complete darkness, meaning no internet
[36:25] at all whatsoever. So not much comes out
[36:27] of Iran. And uh when it does, they are
[36:31] not free to talk. Meaning if they get on
[36:34] social media and if they share um any
[36:37] images or any updates, they risk arrest,
[36:42] persecution, torture. And in one of the
[36:46] most recent cases as of couple of days
[36:49] ago, a young lady is going to be on a
[36:52] death row. And this is only because she
[36:56] shared um videos about the latest uh
[37:00] uprisings and what's going on in Iran
[37:03] and how the Islamic regime is getting
[37:05] weak. So it it's it's a challenging
[37:08] time. Uh this is the second time that
[37:11] I'm coming to DC. uh I have always
[37:14] firmly believed and that's one of the
[37:16] reasons that Iran liberty foundation was
[37:19] formed. Raising awareness is the key in
[37:23] this uh matter. I always felt that
[37:27] Americans
[37:28] uh no disrespect I consider myself an
[37:31] American. I've lived here for 37 years,
[37:34] but I'm talking about people that were
[37:35] born in this great nation. Don't value
[37:38] the freedom that they have and they are
[37:42] also very naive and they don't
[37:44] understand the concerns that it's coming
[37:48] uh towards them. For me, for my family,
[37:52] uh this is almost like a rerun of a
[37:55] movie. I can simply
[37:58] remember the days back in 1977
[38:02] and 79 when the uprising took place and
[38:05] with the Islamic regime took over. Um
[38:08] the Islamist uh fundamentalist the
[38:10] clerics joined forces with Marxist and
[38:14] the leftist not having anything in
[38:16] common in their ideology except they had
[38:19] one goal and that was to destroy Sha. Um
[38:22] and uh they did and they won and after
[38:27] that uh obviously the Islamic regime
[38:29] took over and I see the very same here
[38:32] in United States. Uh and we don't have
[38:35] to look far. We can simply see what's
[38:37] going on in France and England right
[38:39] now. Uh those two uh nations are in deep
[38:43] trouble. Um and they brought it up to
[38:45] themselves and hopefully they can work
[38:47] it out. But this is my home. This is
[38:50] where I live and I've often say this. I
[38:54] don't want another 9/11 here in my
[38:56] backyard. Um I get very ticked off when
[38:59] I hear about gas prices. Um I understand
[39:03] times are tough for some people. Having
[39:06] said that, uh it will be a whole lot
[39:08] more difficult to live if we had a
[39:10] nuclear bomb uh thrown at us or any
[39:14] other type of similar uh terrorist
[39:18] actions like the Islamic regime has done
[39:21] for 47 years. Um my goal in here in
[39:25] Washington DC is meet with members of
[39:29] Congress and Senate and there are three
[39:31] things that I have been pushing and
[39:33] these are three items that are truly
[39:38] uh bipartisan. The number one has been
[39:41] free and available internet to the
[39:43] Iranians.
[39:45] I've always felt that something that it
[39:47] should have been long time ago and I'm
[39:50] doing whatever I can in my power to
[39:54] fight that and hopefully accomplish
[39:56] that. The second is the need for
[40:00] Iranians to have the right tools. It's
[40:04] very simple. If you're going to write,
[40:06] you're going to need a pen. If you're
[40:07] going hiking, you need hiking shoes. And
[40:10] if you're going to fight a regime that
[40:14] has been brutalized, terrorized
[40:17] uh the nation for 47 years, you are
[40:20] going to need certain tools. And those
[40:23] tools are guns. And it is one of the
[40:26] things that I am hoping somehow we're
[40:30] going to be able to get to the Iranian
[40:32] people. there are some chatter, there
[40:33] are some good um news that's popping out
[40:37] and hopefully we're going to be able to
[40:38] accomplish that in a large scale.
[40:41] And uh so and and the third item is one
[40:45] of the items that Christopher and I and
[40:48] uh Bob Wells talked about numerous times
[40:52] and that's for a uh propaganda that
[40:56] takes place by United States and uh
[40:59] that's by giving pamphlets that get uh
[41:03] basically thrown out of the planes all
[41:05] over Iran for Iranians especially uh not
[41:09] necessarily in the big cities But in
[41:12] places that they may not have access to
[41:14] any type of uh news from outside world
[41:18] letting Iranians know that United States
[41:21] loves Iranian people. United States does
[41:25] surgical attacks. United States is going
[41:28] after the Islamic regime to free Iranian
[41:31] people. So, these three items are three
[41:35] that are very uh bipartisan and I have
[41:39] to say I'm getting a great positive
[41:42] thumbs up so far from my meetings. Of
[41:45] course, I have two more full days ahead
[41:47] of me.
[41:49] >> So, appreciate uh all you do on this
[41:51] front. It uh I mentioned earlier I
[41:53] joined the military in 1980. So I was a
[41:56] high school senior uh when the uh the
[41:59] Iran revolution occurred and the the the
[42:02] throwing the dismantling of the shaw and
[42:04] the the uh the country and everything.
[42:07] So it's it's close to me, but the
[42:09] majority of folks in our nation
[42:12] are unaware. A lot of them are unaware
[42:13] of it. Just flat. It's it's it's
[42:15] history. You know, it's it's 30 or 50 45
[42:19] years, 46 years now
[42:22] past. How you you're how do you are you
[42:25] able to go back and engage now with the
[42:27] legis the Congress and those folks back
[42:29] there and bring that story of how Iran's
[42:34] current government came to power and
[42:36] more importantly have held on to power
[42:38] for 45 years.
[42:40] >> That that that's a great question. Uh it
[42:43] it's very simple. We can actually see
[42:45] already what's taking place. Look at
[42:47] what happened in New York City. you have
[42:50] the largest
[42:52] and
[42:54] New York City, I mean we're talking
[42:56] globally it's recognized. Um,
[43:00] and you have a Islamist extremist
[43:04] uh leftist uh that is the mayor. That
[43:08] that to me is unbelievable. Look at
[43:11] what's happening in Michigan. Look at
[43:12] what's happening in uh Texas. You have
[43:16] the Islamic fundamentalist little by
[43:19] little gaining their footprint. Times
[43:22] have changed. Um there are uh Islamic uh
[43:26] terrorists and extremists that come
[43:29] after uh our peace and our um way of
[43:34] life uh with guns and torture and
[43:37] killing. But one of the newest methods
[43:40] that has been uh very successful is by
[43:45] immigration
[43:46] and becoming part of the community.
[43:50] That's how they did in France. That's
[43:52] how they did in England and that's how
[43:54] they're doing it the United States. uh
[43:57] basically by increasing their numbers
[43:59] and the family size and uh buying out
[44:03] small communities, building a church, a
[44:06] mosque and uh little by little by having
[44:09] more people come to the neighborhood. um
[44:12] a lot of people that don't necessarily
[44:14] care uh to have that in their
[44:17] neighborhood and to wake up to it and
[44:19] see large number of uh the Islamic
[44:23] extremist with the headscarf and the
[44:26] covering and all the backward things
[44:30] that is from thousand years ago. um you
[44:34] know, they decide to leave the
[44:36] neighborhood and they drop the price of
[44:37] the value of their real estate and the
[44:39] Islamic communities and the Muslim
[44:42] Brotherhood continue to buy more
[44:44] properties and they're getting their
[44:46] foot in the door. Um look at the number
[44:49] of the Islamic
[44:51] um fundamentalists that now are members
[44:55] of our government. uh the last count and
[44:59] we're talking about Congress, Senate,
[45:01] and of course uh just normal state
[45:05] level, it's over 100
[45:09] uh Islamic leftist uh extremist that are
[45:14] now active. Um to me that's alarming and
[45:19] we need to understand that and we need
[45:22] to deal with it. Look at the amount of
[45:25] uh investments by gatar um gatar uh it's
[45:30] or gutter whatever they call it here uh
[45:34] that the billions of dollars has been
[45:37] invested in our IV school uh Ivy League
[45:40] schools um throughout the past years uh
[45:45] that that number is alarming and by the
[45:48] way that explains how we have this
[45:52] challenge with college campuses uh
[45:55] ruining, burning down and really nothing
[45:59] other than uh destruction
[46:02] uh of uh property uh under the uh cover
[46:07] of free Palestine and uh free Gaza.
[46:11] >> Well, that there's the uh everything
[46:13] going on in Gaza has [snorts] obviously
[46:15] heightened some of the awareness of the
[46:17] Middle East and what all is going on
[46:19] there. As far as before we get into some
[46:21] of what your current assessment of the
[46:23] situation, I'd like to you're you're
[46:24] really an expert on so much more than
[46:26] just uh the Iran conflict. You you you
[46:29] understand that region, but thank you.
[46:31] >> I'd love to hear what's the reception
[46:34] you receive when you go back to
[46:35] Washington DC.
[46:37] >> It's great. Um it's it's wonderful. It
[46:40] it is the communication is there. Um
[46:44] unfortunately
[46:46] uh I get much better uh welcome from
[46:51] their right side of the aisle. Uh but
[46:55] I've always been open and transparent
[46:58] and will continue to speak to uh the
[47:03] left as well. I am firmly believer of
[47:06] this is not matter of politics. This is
[47:10] human rights and the most important part
[47:14] of this that we cannot forget is our
[47:18] safety and security. Uh forget the
[47:21] Iranian people. This is about our safety
[47:24] and security. The beauty of this is once
[47:28] we um topple the regime,
[47:32] the world will be a safer place and of
[47:35] course the Iranian people will be free
[47:38] and they have been fighting for it and
[47:40] they want that freedom and they will get
[47:42] it but we need to focus on our safety
[47:45] and our security and that's why this is
[47:48] crucial. Uh it does uh sadden me when I
[47:51] do have uh meetings with few members
[47:55] that are on the left and I clearly see
[47:58] that there is a wall uh that I cannot uh
[48:03] get over but I'm not giving up.
[48:05] >> Do quick followup and then Shel I want
[48:07] to make sure if you've got any thoughts.
[48:10] >> You talk about the wall. So you
[48:11] obviously they take the meetings with
[48:12] you, you get to see them. Do you think
[48:14] the wall is being created by the current
[48:17] political divide and their concern of of
[48:20] remaining office in office or or is do
[48:23] you think it's actually what they
[48:25] believe uh when you're talking to them?
[48:27] No, it's not what they believe. It is
[48:30] basically uh they are in the most part
[48:34] being bullied by few members that are
[48:37] outspoken. They're loud. They're rude.
[48:41] They're wrong. And they're
[48:43] disrespectful.
[48:45] And they lie and they cheat. And they're
[48:48] disgrace to this country. They're
[48:51] disgrace to United States. And those
[48:54] members are so loud and they're such a
[48:58] bully that the rest of the party must go
[49:01] along, unfortunately.
[49:04] >> Um, and that's why I'm not giving up.
[49:06] >> Well, I app I appreciate it. sad that
[49:08] it's it is a political thing versus
[49:10] people getting elected and then being
[49:12] who they are and what they believe.
[49:14] >> It is that's
[49:15] >> it is
[49:17] >> I I do have a question. I think what I'm
[49:20] interested in is is trying to understand
[49:22] better the what the relationship is with
[49:26] the people that are living in Iran and
[49:30] this Iranian
[49:33] government, if you'll call it that. Uh
[49:36] what what is it? What misconceptions do
[49:38] we as Americans have about what it's
[49:41] like over there? What are the Iranian
[49:43] people thinking?
[49:45] >> Shel, that's a great question and thank
[49:47] you for bringing that up. That's one of
[49:49] the talking points that almost I do my
[49:52] best to mention and bring up in every
[49:54] interview. The reality is, and this is
[49:57] very hard to understand, so follow me,
[50:00] the regime, the current regime is a
[50:04] terrorist group of criminal organization
[50:08] that has kidnapped the Iranians. They
[50:12] control what they can say. They control
[50:14] what they can wear. They control where
[50:17] they go, what to do, what music to hear,
[50:21] and the list goes on and on. The Iranian
[50:25] people are not the same as the regime.
[50:30] Meaning the regime is Islamic terrorist
[50:33] and the Iranians wanting to be free from
[50:36] the regime. That's why if you recall um
[50:40] there has been few uprisings in the past
[50:42] 10 years or so. But one of the most
[50:44] recent was about uh January 8th and
[50:47] night unfortunately that anniversary is
[50:49] coming up that uh millions of Iranian
[50:53] took the street and they had nothing but
[50:56] their fist
[51:00] and they were unarmed but they had the
[51:02] courage and all they wanted was freedom
[51:06] and unfortunately the regime opened fire
[51:10] and they've killed them in masses. They
[51:13] killed more than 50,000
[51:16] innocent unarmed protesters. And you can
[51:19] imagine that type of number creates um a
[51:25] concern and uh scares a lot of people.
[51:28] And uh so they're sort of sitting back
[51:31] waiting for that moment that they could
[51:34] take the streets again and hopefully
[51:37] this time for good to be able to get rid
[51:40] of this regime.
[51:42] Thank you. That that is exactly the kind
[51:46] of information I was looking for. You
[51:48] know, Ham, one of the things that I'm
[51:49] thinking right now, I'm sitting here as
[51:51] a woman and I know that more than 50% of
[51:56] the women in America, if they knew how
[52:00] women were being treated,
[52:02] they would not stand for this. How can
[52:06] we help you? And and I'm I'm asking you
[52:09] as a woman, how can we help you
[52:14] save not just the Iranian people, but
[52:17] save the women from the torture and
[52:19] degradation that they're facing.
[52:24] >> We have to raise awareness that that's
[52:26] the only way. We have to make it clear
[52:29] and uh we have to let Americans know
[52:33] that what's going on in Iran is not
[52:37] Iranian. It is brought on to Iranians
[52:41] based on the principles of Islam. And
[52:45] that's the challenge. What are the
[52:48] principles of Islam?
[52:50] Simple. Woman has no right. They cannot
[52:53] wear whatever they like. They have to
[52:55] cover their hair. they have to cover
[52:57] their hand and this and that which is
[52:59] something that it's unbelievable. Um the
[53:03] woman has no right to even divorce their
[53:05] husband. Um if they divorce their
[53:08] husband uh when that comes they cannot
[53:12] have their children. Uh the it it's just
[53:15] uh you know when it comes to um their
[53:17] right and their voting the woman is half
[53:21] the man when it comes to their um power
[53:25] when it comes to uh the society and
[53:29] decision making. Um when a woman gets
[53:33] raped often the woman gets punished. Uh
[53:38] this is what's happening every day in
[53:40] Iran. Um they stone them, they hang them
[53:44] because wanting to be alive, because
[53:48] wanting to live and have a better life.
[53:51] These are the new generation is
[53:54] educated. They're some of the smartest
[53:56] people out there. And when they have
[54:00] access, they see what's happening
[54:02] outside Iran. They see how women are
[54:05] powerful. They have rights. they have uh
[54:09] a opportunity to choose the life that
[54:12] they want for themselves and to have a
[54:15] better life for themsel for their
[54:17] family. So these are the things that
[54:20] women have no right. Um let's look at a
[54:24] very simple entertainment aspect. A
[54:27] woman cannot sing or perform in Iran.
[54:33] Uh, and this is 2026 we're talking
[54:37] about. We have some of the most
[54:40] beautiful talented
[54:43] um, entertainers
[54:45] and they have no right to perform. Just
[54:49] try to wrap your head around that simple
[54:52] thing. Imagine what power this regime
[54:56] has on their people that controls what
[55:01] they do for a living or as an artist.
[55:06] >> Well, thank you for that. I I I do think
[55:09] that this is a very big issue and
[55:11] there's a lot of women in America that I
[55:13] know when they get the awareness, when
[55:16] they understand what's going on, they
[55:19] will stand up. So thank you.
[55:22] >> And I think one of the important things
[55:24] and this is something that your
[55:25] organization again it's if you want more
[55:27] information it's the Iran liberty
[55:29] foundation and it is that simple to find
[55:31] irranliberty.org
[55:33] you can learn more about what Assam is
[55:36] is doing. I think this country doesn't
[55:38] really understand the enormity of the
[55:40] country of Iran. It's got n almost 94
[55:44] million people. It's the 17th largest
[55:47] country by population. Think about that.
[55:49] 17th largest country by population,
[55:52] yet they really don't want anybody
[55:55] interacting with them or telling them
[55:56] what they need to do. And that's because
[55:57] they don't want you to know what they're
[55:58] doing.
[56:00] That That's correct. And you know, I
[56:02] maybe I should share one of hundreds and
[56:06] thousands of horrible um stories that's
[56:11] coming out of Iran uh with you and your
[56:13] audience just so we could understand the
[56:15] extreme
[56:17] part of this regime. Um during January
[56:20] 8th and 9th, there was a young man that
[56:23] uh took part in the uprising. Um he was
[56:28] shot
[56:29] uh a few times on his torso and on his
[56:33] leg.
[56:34] He did not go to the hospital. The
[56:37] reason he did not go to the hospital is
[56:38] because uh the regime will arrest them
[56:42] and he went home hiding. The regime was
[56:46] able to find this young man and remove
[56:50] them from the home. took him to the
[56:52] hospital just enough to do some minor uh
[56:57] treatment and they took him to jail.
[57:00] Throughout the last months
[57:04] he was tortured
[57:07] beyond imaginable.
[57:10] They brought his mom and sister
[57:14] and they had the parents, the mom and
[57:16] the sister in room next door as they are
[57:21] torturing this kid by directly pressing
[57:26] on and hitting the areas that was
[57:31] wounded.
[57:33] And that's how this regime
[57:36] operates. But let's not stop there.
[57:41] his girlfriend was arrested as well
[57:45] and um throughout this process
[57:48] he thought that they want to get married
[57:52] to sort of sets their life so when they
[57:56] get out they are a husband and wife. The
[58:00] regime allowed these two uh by using an
[58:05] attorney and phone lines to get the okay
[58:07] from their parents. And they allowed
[58:10] these two to connect and become husband
[58:13] and wife with the promise of a life
[58:17] ahead
[58:19] only the following day to hang this
[58:23] young man.
[58:26] >> That's the Islamic regime. And I thank
[58:29] so many people. I appreciate what you do
[58:32] some uh getting out there and continuing
[58:34] to tell uh the story. It's a story
[58:37] that's not just of uh what's going on in
[58:39] Iran. It's a story of American history
[58:41] and from the from the early 80s as well
[58:44] as a warning for what you're seeing in
[58:46] this country that's got you as an
[58:50] American scared and worried about the
[58:52] direction we're going to. So, so we
[58:54] appreciate you taking the time. Best of
[58:56] luck in DC. I hope uh the the members of
[58:59] Congress or the staffers that you're
[59:01] back there dealing with now since I'm
[59:02] sure a lot of those members of Congress
[59:03] are out uh uh now campaigning for their
[59:07] reelection. I hope uh they they give you
[59:09] the the time of day and then take
[59:11] seriously the conversations you have
[59:13] with them. So that's uh Ham Rahheemian
[59:16] joining us uh and a regular here with
[59:18] Bob Wells. Those are some of the most
[59:20] incredible conversations because the two
[59:22] of you can really go deep and we
[59:24] appreciate you and uh uh travel safe.
[59:27] >> Thank you. I appreciate you both and
[59:29] look forward to seeing you soon. Take
[59:30] care. God bless.
[59:32] >> Thank you.
[59:32] >> Thank you very much. All right. Stay
[59:34] with us please on Wake Up with
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[65:49] >> You're listening to Wake Up with
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[66:12] Welcome back. You are with Ted Maxwell
[66:15] and Shelley Kis on Wake Up without
[66:18] Christopher D. Simone, but he will be
[66:20] back tomorrow uh to continue the the
[66:24] attitude that this show and this morning
[66:26] brings and he definitely set us up with
[66:27] a great lineup today. always uh
[66:30] incredible listening to Assam talk and
[66:32] so that was just
[66:34] >> it was an easy interview because we just
[66:36] had to throw little tidbits out there
[66:37] and he took it down the path for us.
[66:39] >> Yeah, that was phenomenal. That was that
[66:41] was a a a great interview. It's hard to
[66:44] say it's great. But
[66:46] >> the the topics the topic's tough.
[66:48] There's no doubt about it. But the uh
[66:50] the content and the expertise we had
[66:53] just there it was was eye opening and
[66:56] always learn something new. And Shel,
[66:57] again, I got to thank you for your
[66:58] question. I think that's one that uh
[67:00] probably he hasn't had to answer on this
[67:01] show before. It's a from the woman's
[67:03] perspective. So, appreciate you
[67:05] appreciate you bringing that question
[67:06] forward.
[67:07] >> Speaking of great interviews, we are now
[67:10] joined by Congressman David Schwikert,
[67:12] who is uh always brings his aame
[67:16] wake up with Christopher D. Simone. And
[67:19] Congressman, it's great to see you this
[67:20] morning. How how are you doing,
[67:23] >> Shelley, Ted? Um, well, it's the chaos
[67:25] at the Schwikert household. It's spring
[67:28] break, excuse me, fall break. So, the
[67:31] four-year-old um uh demanded a different
[67:35] cereal and the um 11year-old um God
[67:40] heaven knows what she wanted. [laughter]
[67:42] >> Well, it's always good, you know, fall
[67:44] breaks. I remember we were talking about
[67:46] uh you know my age and how old school
[67:48] you know we were lucky to get a spring
[67:49] break and then it was pretty much just
[67:51] us running around the neighborhoods most
[67:52] of the time but now it's you know it's
[67:54] the responsibility of the parents to
[67:55] make sure the kids are entertained and
[67:57] and enjoy
[67:58] >> yeah apparently the old days when I was
[68:00] a kid where mom would just drop you off
[68:02] at the park you know we don't do that
[68:05] anymore that
[68:07] >> it it's true I mean and there's reasons
[68:09] in some of our communities uh being
[68:11] dropped off at the park not a good place
[68:13] to be Well, but you also think about how
[68:17] many kids there were. Um, you know,
[68:20] there was, you know, so many kids and
[68:22] the whole neighborhood and it was the
[68:23] neighborhood. Yeah. Um, society is
[68:26] different today. Um, even beyond actual
[68:30] crime statistics. Um, it's there's just
[68:33] so many fewer children,
[68:35] you know. So, yeah, I think that's a a
[68:39] situation we're starting to have to
[68:41] address and deal with. I mean, you've
[68:42] been talking about it forever, the
[68:44] impact it's having our financials.
[68:47] >> Yeah, Ted. Um, this is one that drives
[68:50] me a little nuts. Um, it's not starting.
[68:52] We should have started to deal with this
[68:54] a decade or two ago because you we see
[68:58] it in our numbers and it it is what we
[69:00] are. Um but it it infuriates people when
[69:04] you try to explain you know uh much of
[69:07] our economic headwind and one of the
[69:10] reasons you have so many people
[69:12] economists fixated on AI is they're
[69:15] using the technology as a substitution
[69:18] for the fact we have so few young
[69:20] people.
[69:22] Um you know we're as a country we're
[69:24] just a a couple ticks above zero
[69:26] population growth.
[69:28] And if you all remember your high school
[69:30] economics class, population was a
[69:33] substantial part of the formula of
[69:35] growing an economy. So it's just what we
[69:37] deal with.
[69:39] >> And so let's just jump to the that on
[69:41] the national the national budget, the
[69:43] debt, everything. I mean, everything in
[69:45] our society has is based on the
[69:48] productivity of our citizens. And with
[69:51] our citizens not growing,
[69:53] all the pro programs or majority of the
[69:56] programs in uh the federal government
[69:58] system has been based on this continual
[70:00] growth.
[70:02] >> How what's next?
[70:04] >> Um look, it's a broken record. It's what
[70:08] we talk about constantly with Chris and
[70:10] those sorts of things is just the basic
[70:12] math problem. Um for every dollar in, we
[70:16] spent a $140 last year. And believe it
[70:18] or not, that was an improvement.
[70:21] But the reason it's so hard is every day
[70:25] we functionally have another 3,3500
[70:29] of us who turn 65,
[70:31] >> right?
[70:32] >> And move into their earned benefits. And
[70:35] when you have a society where in about
[70:38] 20 22 months, somewhere in there, I have
[70:40] to redo the calculations,
[70:43] half of all federal spending will go to
[70:45] those of us 65 and up.
[70:48] Um that's our math problem. It it's just
[70:52] and you know the politicians often the
[70:55] political class waste and fraud. Well,
[70:58] when you actually work through the
[71:00] numbers, you know, there may be a couple
[71:03] hundred billion dollars of waste out
[71:04] there. Excuse me, fraud. There's a much
[71:06] more waste. But if you're borrowing two
[71:11] trillion plus another, you know, 400
[71:14] billion that you borrow from the trust
[71:15] funds, you got a math problem. And
[71:18] finally today, you're starting to see
[71:21] people willing to talk about saying,
[71:22] "Hey, in 5 years, 8 months or so, the
[71:26] Social Security trust fund is empty."
[71:28] And if we follow the law, that's about a
[71:30] 22 to 24% cut in people's checks. and
[71:35] several months later the math says
[71:37] you'll double poverty of seniors. And
[71:40] yet you'll see both on the left and the
[71:42] right um we're almost educated by our
[71:46] political consultants don't talk about
[71:48] these things um because they're
[71:51] functioning political traps but it's
[71:53] math. It's the reality of what's coming
[71:55] at us.
[71:57] So let's talk a little bit of the math
[71:59] that you might be seeing out there right
[72:00] now on the current situation with
[72:02] Congress. Obviously, you will go back to
[72:04] DC after the elections are over and
[72:06] finish finish the this year's uh
[72:08] session. Um, what kind of environment
[72:12] are you anticipating finding when you
[72:14] get back there based on your insight?
[72:16] >> Oh, that's a really Ted, that's a
[72:18] brilliant question. Um, first off, I was
[72:21] there a little bit this last week um
[72:24] packing up and doing some meetings with
[72:26] the economists. It was hysterical. Um, I
[72:30] packed up I had this big Havalina head
[72:33] on my office and put Javier the Havalina
[72:35] in a box and flew him back. I'm just
[72:38] wondering the TSA folks as they were
[72:40] doing the scanning looking going what
[72:42] the hell is but all right but that's the
[72:44] humor part. Um,
[72:48] I was the only actually urban suburban
[72:52] Republican to get reelected in 2018.
[72:55] >> Right? remember that year we lost what
[72:57] 40 41 seats
[72:59] >> and when you get back it's this
[73:01] combination of I can't believe what
[73:04] happened even though 2018 we saw what
[73:08] was coming and we lied to each other and
[73:12] and that's one of my rages I have often
[73:16] is
[73:18] we as as elected people in the political
[73:21] community uh sometimes because we want
[73:24] to raise money sometimes We want to keep
[73:26] our volunteers motivated. We don't tell
[73:29] the truth about some of the information
[73:31] we're seeing. And yet that truth would
[73:33] been the way you could have fixed your
[73:35] message. U fixed how you campaign to be
[73:38] able to have more people get elected. Um
[73:42] but uh the political class is often more
[73:46] concerned about the fundraising
[73:49] than the final outcome and and that's
[73:51] just an incredible frustration. So, when
[73:53] we get back, we actually have some work
[73:54] that has to be done.
[73:57] Will we have the stomach to do it if
[73:59] it's been a tough election? Um, we'll
[74:02] know in about a month.
[74:04] >> So, what are some of those issues that
[74:05] you know need to be addressed that it
[74:08] >> um
[74:10] and this one I despise. I cannot tell
[74:13] you. It it it it leaves this horrible
[74:16] ugly taste in my mouth. Um, but we're
[74:19] burning through so much money Um, so
[74:22] we're about every 150 days we borrow
[74:25] another trillion dollars. We will hit
[74:28] the debt ceiling as a country. Um,
[74:30] probably next January, February, March.
[74:34] Um, if the left were to take the House
[74:40] um what would that negotiation be like
[74:43] with President Trump? And so, do you try
[74:46] to say, "Hey, Congress, we at least
[74:48] control the House and the Senate right
[74:50] now." Do you raise the borrowing limits?
[74:53] Remember, the borrowing limits you're
[74:55] raising is for things you've already
[74:56] spent or already authorized.
[75:00] Um, and there's people like me, uh,
[75:02] every time we've gotten to this, we
[75:04] demand spending fixes, you know, where
[75:08] where we where we see programs that just
[75:10] are ripe with bad acts. You know, in New
[75:13] York City, for the last five years, the
[75:16] number one job creator in New York City
[75:17] is a Medicaid program.
[75:20] You know, that's when we say that term
[75:23] waste and fraud, that's your waste. But
[75:26] turns out you have lots of businesses
[75:28] that make their money off this sort of
[75:30] stuff. So they send armies of lobbyists
[75:32] to fight you from doing the reforms.
[75:36] Um so it's going to be um a couple
[75:38] interesting weeks of battle.
[75:41] And I think you bring a great point up
[75:43] there, the difference between waste and
[75:45] fraud, because we we there's there's
[75:48] going to be fraud. There's going to be
[75:49] people trying to create fraud and take
[75:51] advantage of the systems all the time,
[75:52] but it's to me it's the waste that we
[75:55] know
[75:56] we're continuing to support that's
[75:58] driving these numbers.
[76:00] >> Well, okay. Um, this going to be a
[76:04] little higher level, but it will make
[76:05] sense.
[76:06] Um,
[76:08] Shelley Ted, you you run the state's
[76:11] Medicaid system.
[76:13] Any state, just pick any state. and
[76:17] you've been told over and over, hey,
[76:19] this is free money we're getting from
[76:21] the federal government.
[76:23] Do you really fixate on the scam
[76:27] artists, on the provider that may be
[76:30] scamming the medical system, the people
[76:32] signing up this and that? In a weird
[76:35] way, the way the federal government has
[76:37] set up that cost sharing in Medicaid,
[76:41] you have a number of states that it's a
[76:44] low priority to stop the bad acts
[76:46] because it's cash coming into their
[76:48] economy,
[76:50] >> right? It's federal money. So, we've
[76:53] this incentive system for
[76:56] not allowing bad acts, bad providers,
[76:59] bad this is all screwed up.
[77:02] And I've set off a firestorm over and
[77:05] over and over saying maybe the most
[77:07] powerful way we could get rid of that is
[77:10] say look look state here's the block of
[77:13] money you would spend instead of us
[77:16] micromanaging you we're going to give
[77:18] you this
[77:20] and so when there's the fraud it doesn't
[77:22] raise the federal's tab you you know the
[77:26] state gets the money that the state gets
[77:28] all of a sudden the states and everyone
[77:30] is incentivized to stop the the scam
[77:33] artists.
[77:36] >> I think that's an excellent point,
[77:38] Congressman. I think what happens if we
[77:40] move this to a managed to budget rather
[77:43] than pay per player,
[77:44] >> I going to see a huge change in how
[77:48] states lead and manage their federal
[77:51] programs. But we incentivize them by an
[77:55] outreach program. Get more people
[77:57] involved. Lower your thresholds. do
[77:59] anything you can and we'll give you more
[78:01] money. So, it incentivizes the waste and
[78:05] it encourages fraud.
[78:08] >> You you absolutely nailed it. You you're
[78:10] you're obviously very smart on this. Um
[78:13] and the fascinating thing is you find
[78:18] states like um the lobbyists from New
[78:20] York or Minnesota, particularly
[78:22] California,
[78:24] um they are almost enraged at this idea.
[78:27] Um, we in Arizona actually have an
[78:29] interesting opportunity because our
[78:31] access system is a managed care system.
[78:34] It's a lot of the other affiliated
[78:35] programs though that we know we have
[78:38] some um, you know, the math isn't lining
[78:41] up. um you know when you actually sort
[78:44] of see the audits
[78:47] >> and I think the challenge to your point
[78:49] there is we you can look stateto state
[78:52] and you're going to see the difference
[78:53] in states abilities or desires to run a
[78:56] tighter program but we need federal
[78:59] leadership on this.
[79:00] >> Um Ted, I would you [clears throat]
[79:03] you're going absolutely the right path.
[79:06] Why does one state sometimes have double
[79:09] well almost double the cost of the
[79:12] providing the similar services? Now
[79:14] look, there's regional expense
[79:16] differences. It's more expensive in New
[79:18] York City than it might be in Iowa, but
[79:20] it shouldn't be double or close to it.
[79:24] And and so that's actually why sort of
[79:29] the concept is often referred to as
[79:31] almost a risk sharing, a capitated
[79:33] model. And that's just one of the things
[79:35] we're going to try to take one last run
[79:37] at. I don't
[79:41] my reforms.
[79:44] I often can't even get a single member
[79:46] of Congress to sponsor them with me
[79:49] because you you got to understand it's
[79:51] an army of you know insurance company
[79:54] executives surprising Republican
[79:56] business people that often make their
[79:59] money on this. So it's always about the
[80:01] money. thean said Washington DC is it's
[80:06] not about morality it's not about
[80:08] following the constitution it's not
[80:09] about what's right it's about the money
[80:12] so so based on your the first question
[80:15] we asked talked about this it sounds to
[80:17] me like you expect when you go back
[80:18] after the election that it's going to be
[80:20] one of those situations that it's how
[80:23] much will people be willing to do based
[80:24] on the outcome of of the elections
[80:28] for you personally how
[80:31] do you believe you've got any
[80:33] opportunities to make any inroads on
[80:35] some of the things you've been uh
[80:37] working on so hard knowing that you're
[80:40] not
[80:42] >> um
[80:44] I don't know there is a chance the bond
[80:47] market will still be punishing us.
[80:52] Um we're going to publish a paper today.
[80:54] my joint economic economists. Um, we've
[80:57] been working on CBO responded to a
[80:59] request we gave them a month ago saying,
[81:01] "Build a model of what happens if
[81:04] interest rates are up a half a percent
[81:05] from your baseline to a point and a
[81:08] half." Well, we're already over that
[81:09] half a percent. And their baseline, if
[81:13] you went up a half a percent, excuse me,
[81:15] a point and a half, a half one and a
[81:17] half percent would be a 4.8%,
[81:21] excuse me, 5.8. Sorry, I got to get my
[81:24] math right. 5.8% interest rate on US
[81:27] debt. Well, you know, if we're sitting
[81:29] at 52, 53, we're not that far away. And
[81:34] here's what was terrifying in the paper
[81:36] we're about to publish, and I'll get
[81:37] beaten up on this because people don't
[81:39] like it when you tell them the truth
[81:41] about math.
[81:43] in 2036. So nine budget years from now,
[81:46] you could have as much as 48 48 12% of
[81:51] all available taxes. So you can't use
[81:54] social security, Medicare taxes, the
[81:56] payroll taxes, but you're approaching
[81:58] almost half of all taxes will go just to
[82:01] interest.
[82:04] So there's no doubt I I mean our six
[82:07] largest uh largest programs are the
[82:11] interest on the national debt, defense,
[82:13] Medicare, Medicaid. That that's where
[82:15] our money's going. It's the entitlement
[82:17] programs.
[82:18] >> Yeah. Let's actually walk through the
[82:19] hierarchy. Social Security is number
[82:21] one. Interest is number two.
[82:26] >> Medicare is number three. Medicaid and
[82:29] Obamacare subsidies is number four.
[82:32] defense is actually number five. So the
[82:34] thing that's in the constitution is
[82:37] actually number five. And if these
[82:40] interest rate increases that have
[82:42] happened particularly in the last two
[82:43] months start to weave into the
[82:46] refinancing of the US sovereign debt in
[82:50] a few years interest will be the number
[82:52] one expense in the United States. It
[82:53] will pass social security.
[82:57] And Congressman, I'm going to assume the
[82:59] only solution is to stop spending.
[83:02] >> Um, it's a combination of a number of
[83:05] things. Um, and and here's the problem
[83:07] is uh so often if when you run for
[83:10] office, you you you get educated say,
[83:13] well, just give two sentence answers or
[83:15] 30 second answers. Complex problem, it's
[83:18] going to be a complex solution. you're
[83:19] going to have to do things to um adopt
[83:22] the technology in healthcare to crash
[83:24] the price of healthcare because
[83:26] healthcare is actually um the thing
[83:28] that's moving up the fastest. Um
[83:30] incentives for folks to say, "Look,
[83:33] you're perfectly eligible to retire.
[83:34] Would you like an incentive in your
[83:36] social security check to stay in the
[83:38] labor market?" Um you're going to have
[83:41] to just be willing to touch everything.
[83:44] Um the thing it's like standing for a
[83:46] conservative on, you know, um quicksand
[83:51] is you're going to have to talk about
[83:52] how you want to redesign the entire
[83:54] immigration system in the United States
[83:56] and go to a talent-based system because
[83:59] we need people that grow the economy and
[84:01] pay lots of taxes. Um you can't import
[84:04] poverty anymore. Um and so so you have
[84:08] to think of it as a as
[84:11] I think on one of our lists we had 60 70
[84:15] things you sort of had to do all at once
[84:18] a holistic approach from you know what
[84:21] you're doing in the way you do education
[84:22] to adoption of technology to healthcare
[84:25] to immigration policies and you got to
[84:27] do them all all at once because they all
[84:30] interact with each other
[84:33] >> and I think that's that that's one of
[84:35] the big challenges is people can take
[84:36] things in one at a time, but the it's a
[84:39] holistic solution. You're going to need
[84:41] a lot. It's kind of like
[84:41] infrastructuring infrastructure funding
[84:43] in state Arizona. It's there's no one
[84:45] golden uh arrow that's going to solve it
[84:47] all. It's going to be a lot of little
[84:49] pieces that have to have to change or
[84:51] have to be considered.
[84:53] >> Yeah. And they interlink with you. It's
[84:54] it's like the case where, hey, we built
[84:56] a new bridge, but we still have a
[84:58] two-lane road going to it. you don't get
[85:00] the value, you know, and and trying to
[85:03] explain that to people because so much
[85:05] of our politics have become so trit
[85:08] say something that makes me angry even
[85:11] though I know I'm getting conned
[85:14] um for my emotion instead of my
[85:16] intellect. But as you see in our
[85:18] elections, we often vote for people that
[85:21] spike our emotion, not for folks that
[85:23] actually have ideas that actually work
[85:26] and solve problems.
[85:28] There's no doubt we we need more problem
[85:30] solvers. Well, before we let you get
[85:31] back to fall break, [laughter]
[85:35] >> mean chasing the kids,
[85:37] >> which makes me very nervous because
[85:38] they're in the next room over and
[85:40] suddenly I can't hear them anymore.
[85:42] >> Oh, that that's never a good sign. But
[85:44] before you go, I've got to ask. You've
[85:46] done such a magnificent job of holding
[85:48] on to your congressional district and
[85:50] district. I think every single time they
[85:52] came into that district saying, "Hey,
[85:54] this is this one's at risk. Oh, yeah.
[85:56] Risk." and and every time, no matter how
[86:00] bad they said they were going to you
[86:02] were going to go down, it was going to
[86:03] happen, you preserved it. What's your
[86:05] sense right now? And I'm not asking you
[86:07] to make a prediction on the final
[86:08] outcome, but what are you hearing inside
[86:11] your district?
[86:12] >> Um,
[86:15] [sighs]
[86:17] look, I'm blessed, but this sort of
[86:20] Scottdale, North Phoenix district, it's
[86:24] very well educated.
[86:27] Um, so you don't get to pull the wool
[86:29] over these people's eyes. You know, you
[86:31] you you can't say some fancy things and
[86:34] that don't make sense. Um, you got to
[86:36] grind it out with facts. You got to you
[86:39] got to meet people where their intellect
[86:40] is. Um, it's tough because I've seen
[86:44] some of the data on um, uh, free market
[86:48] Republicans are unhappy with us.
[86:53] independents, which remember
[86:54] independents are now our number one
[86:56] registration in Arizona.
[86:57] >> Yes, they are.
[86:58] >> Are are cranky with us.
[87:01] >> And
[87:03] in many ways for
[87:06] the both the the populist community and
[87:09] politics and the conservative community,
[87:11] um we haven't done a particularly good
[87:13] job of talking to the independents and
[87:15] saying, "Here's why we bring prosperity
[87:19] to Arizona."
[87:21] And my fear is that lack of, you know,
[87:25] meeting people where their interest is.
[87:28] Um, it's gonna it's makes it makes the
[87:30] election tougher for everyone. And and
[87:32] you got to understand the hierarchy of
[87:35] everything from the governor's race, you
[87:37] know, if that's becoming a tough race,
[87:39] you you actually have this sort of we
[87:42] interlock with each other. um the higher
[87:45] up on uh races when they're not doing
[87:47] well, it can affect even down to your
[87:50] state legislature. Oh yeah.
[87:51] >> And go heaven forbid heaven forbid we
[87:54] were to lose the state legislature.
[87:56] >> And for you know some Ted I think you
[87:59] live in what do you live in 17?
[88:01] >> I do. I live in LD 17. rem remarkably
[88:05] important that we as the conservatives,
[88:08] as the Republicans, um hold those seats
[88:12] um to be able to keep the Arizona
[88:14] legislature.
[88:16] >> Fully agree with you, Congressman. As
[88:17] always, we uh appreciate you joining
[88:20] this show. And as a regular uh person,
[88:22] I've valued uh since the first time I
[88:24] met you, probably eight years ago, I
[88:26] valued your insight on uh all the fiscal
[88:28] concerns because that is that you're
[88:30] speaking my language. That's my biggest
[88:32] my biggest worry. Uh great lead in for
[88:35] us because when we come back we're going
[88:37] to be with LD17 Republican candidate for
[88:40] the state house uh John Winchester. And
[88:42] congressman, we wish you the best of
[88:44] luck going forward and good luck with
[88:45] whatever you find when you get back to
[88:47] DC. And I hope you can uh get a couple
[88:48] of things that that you know are
[88:50] important to get solved when you go
[88:51] back. And we look forward to continue
[88:52] having you on this program with
[88:54] Christopher D. Simone.
[88:56] >> You're very kind. Take have a great day.
[88:58] Bye now.
[88:58] >> Thank you, Congress.
[88:59] >> Thank you, Congressman. All right. So,
[89:01] we're going to go and pay a couple bills
[89:02] now, Shelley, and uh keep the lights on
[89:05] here at Live the Dream Media. And then
[89:07] we'll be back with John Winchester. He's
[89:09] uh sitting across uh
[89:12] >> in the sofa.
[89:13] >> I saw him.
[89:14] >> It's good.
[89:14] >> All right,
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[94:50] Christopher D. Simone on the Live the
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[95:11] Good morning and welcome back to [music]
[95:13] Wake Up with Christopher D. Simone.
[95:15] We've uh we've had a great lineup of
[95:17] guests thus far
[95:19] with between the conversation with
[95:20] [music] Assam and with Congressman
[95:23] Schwikert and it's it's been an easy
[95:25] show to co-host. So, I appreciate uh
[95:28] Chris reaching out to us and asking uh
[95:30] you to and I to join together on this
[95:33] one and it's been a a great opportunity.
[95:35] Speaking of great fun speaking of great
[95:37] opportunities, make sure you stay with
[95:39] uh Live the Dream Media after this is
[95:41] Southwest Flavor with Ron Arenas will be
[95:43] coming on and then after that it's we're
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[95:47] So there may be a little similarities in
[95:49] some of the conversation. So So if
[95:51] there's questions that you don't hear
[95:53] from our next guest, just stay because I
[95:55] believe he's going to be the opening act
[95:57] on Southwest Flavor when this is when
[95:59] this show is over. So uh we are joined
[96:02] now by John Winchester. Uh, we just
[96:04] heard Congressman Swiker say how
[96:07] important LD17
[96:09] is and you are the one of the two
[96:12] candidates for the House in LD7. So,
[96:15] John, thanks for joining us today.
[96:16] Appreciate you being here.
[96:17] >> Thanks for having me. Lord, thanks
[96:19] Chris. Thanks. Thank you, Chris, for
[96:21] having me.
[96:21] >> Yeah, [laughter] he he set up a line.
[96:24] >> Glad to be back.
[96:24] >> He he set up a lineup and gave us an
[96:26] easy shot. So, I'm going to turn over to
[96:28] Shel. And Shel, let at this point, what
[96:31] do you think the most important thing
[96:33] John needs to do? And then we can let
[96:35] him tell us how he's actually doing that
[96:36] to ensure he gets elected in LD17.
[96:39] >> You know what? There is no doubt that
[96:41] John is running the playbook that gets
[96:44] candidates elected and I suspect that
[96:48] you will be elected. And so I think you
[96:51] need to clear your calendar for January.
[96:53] [laughter]
[96:54] uh you may want to take a few days off
[96:56] in November, but I think I've been
[96:58] watching your campaign from the
[97:00] beginning as you know and uh I think
[97:02] you've done all the right things and
[97:04] everybody's been watching your
[97:05] commercials in between great
[97:07] commercials. Um you know it's it's about
[97:11] getting out there and knocking doors and
[97:12] I know you've done that and it's going
[97:15] and speaking and and participating in
[97:18] the community. So tell us how are you
[97:20] feeling?
[97:21] Uh, I mean, I I feel good about our
[97:24] chances. It is it is a Republican
[97:26] leaning district. Um, the most important
[97:28] thing is to get our our Republican
[97:31] voters out. Uh, we've done all the work
[97:33] that we can really since May to um touch
[97:37] swing voters and try to make the case to
[97:40] swing voters that that uh we're focused
[97:43] on um issues that support families.
[97:46] LD17's a family district. It's the
[97:48] densest family population in the county.
[97:51] Um, we have the most alternative school
[97:53] options. We have charters and we have
[97:56] private schools and we have home schools
[97:57] and we have the district schools. Uh, we
[98:00] have uh but that's where it's the place
[98:01] where families live. And my my message
[98:04] to folks has always been business
[98:07] owners, I want to make you make it
[98:08] easier for you to do business and so
[98:10] that families can can thrive here in
[98:12] southern Arizona. And I I think that
[98:14] that's a simple message. Uh, you know,
[98:17] I'm I'm all about making government
[98:18] boring again. I just I want the
[98:20] government to focus on its job and and
[98:23] stay out of everything else. Um, and
[98:25] here in southern Arizona, we have a we
[98:27] have a government that overreaches a lot
[98:29] uh and creates barriers for businesses
[98:31] and for families. Um, so we want to roll
[98:33] back where the government shouldn't be
[98:35] and um but but have the government do
[98:37] its job like law enforcement and and uh
[98:41] uh u you know good good schools and and
[98:44] infrastructure. So,
[98:46] >> so
[98:47] what do you hear about law enforcement
[98:49] in southern Arizona?
[98:50] >> Well, well, we were just talking about
[98:52] this. So, Channel 4 uh put out a story
[98:55] yesterday that state troopers are coming
[98:57] down here, state police are coming down
[98:59] here uh to work on violent crime. And um
[99:03] I frankly that's it's the right idea
[99:06] because our local officials in the city
[99:08] of Tucson, by the way, we are a suburban
[99:10] district and we're all the people that
[99:12] don't want to live in LD17 or don't want
[99:15] to live in the city of Tucson. We don't
[99:17] want to live there. In fact, I of course
[99:18] being born and raised here, my wife and
[99:20] I were living in the heart of the city.
[99:22] We were living over in uh near St.
[99:24] Mary's and Silverbell, and we left
[99:26] explicitly because of the violence. Uh a
[99:29] young lady got raped right right behind
[99:31] our house. um uh and and the the drugs
[99:34] that were in Menllo Park and uh the
[99:36] homeless factor and we were we just
[99:38] wanted to get out. So we moved up to the
[99:40] northwest. So we we explicitly we are a
[99:44] population of people in LD7 that don't
[99:47] want to live in the city of Tucson
[99:48] specifically because of the public
[99:50] safety issues. And uh in fact and I went
[99:52] I was at a it was I had the funnest uh
[99:54] weekend. I I went to uh an Indian uh uh
[99:59] celebration over the weekend. And I was
[100:01] out door knocking last week on Wednesday
[100:02] night, met a guy named Sunny Patel and
[100:05] he's like, "Oh, you should come to this
[100:06] festival." And I was like, "Okay." So I
[100:08] went to the Chinese Community Center and
[100:11] there was just I don't know two 300
[100:13] people from the Indian community from
[100:15] India, not not native uh population that
[100:18] were there and they were having a
[100:19] festival and it was phenomenal. But I
[100:20] was meeting business owners and their
[100:23] their whole everybody wanted to just
[100:24] talk to me about the homeless issue. All
[100:26] of them regardless of what their
[100:28] business was, regardless of what they
[100:29] were doing. like we we have to take care
[100:31] of the homeless issue. We have to take
[100:32] care of the crime element, uh the
[100:34] property damage element. And so it's
[100:37] always been on my mind, state
[100:38] intervention to secure my my hometown.
[100:42] And so we're seeing that happen now.
[100:44] According to Channel 4, the state is uh
[100:46] sending down troopers. Do you know if
[100:48] that I I did not see the announcement.
[100:51] Was that a request from this region,
[100:53] which I'm assuming it wasn't. Is that
[100:55] something that the police departments,
[100:57] local police departments reach out and
[100:59] ask for support? What what
[101:01] >> I can't say I know why I can't say that
[101:04] I know wh how it happened. Uh, of
[101:07] course, President Trump has been doing
[101:08] this in other places at a federal level,
[101:10] which was not welcome
[101:13] >> in in some of the inner cities. Welcome
[101:14] by some, but a lot of inner cities
[101:16] didn't want it. But it's we we're we
[101:19] have failed like law enforcement is the
[101:22] number one priority without secure
[101:24] community
[101:26] business fails and families leave and
[101:29] it's the number one responsibility of
[101:30] government. The number one I will take
[101:33] unpaved roads and have safety and
[101:36] security and and especially as a guy
[101:38] who's raising four kids in this town and
[101:40] it it we have failed. We have failed
[101:42] miserably. People in Tucson know it.
[101:44] They sense it and we're still going to
[101:47] spend a hund00 million a year on unfor
[101:49] on on uh you know lowincome housing
[101:52] rather than put that money into law
[101:54] enforcement to secure our city here in
[101:55] the city of Tucson. It's about
[101:56] priorities. I mean Ted, you know this
[101:59] working with SLC Shelley, you pay
[102:01] attention. Uh it's about priorities. So
[102:03] I don't know how it happened. I'm going
[102:05] to find out. But I just think it's I
[102:07] think it's indicative of where we're at.
[102:09] >> So let's jump to priorities for for some
[102:11] of the listeners that may I know you've
[102:13] been on the show. you're a regular on
[102:14] this. You're getting out as as Shelley
[102:16] said, you're doing all the things you
[102:17] need to to get your voice. What are the
[102:19] your priorities that you believe you can
[102:21] go up to the state
[102:23] not to solve the state's issues, but to
[102:25] bring back and help both LD17 and the
[102:28] southern Arizona region that you care
[102:30] about?
[102:30] >> Sure. So, I I I think uh as I've said,
[102:34] I've talked a lot about education, so
[102:35] I'll skip that one unless somebody wants
[102:37] another earful on my my my passion for
[102:41] for public education um or education in
[102:44] general, K through 12 and and the
[102:46] university systems. But, uh public
[102:48] safety is one um we we need, uh safer
[102:52] communities. Uh if we want business to
[102:55] thrive, I've already said that, you have
[102:57] to have safe communities. You have to
[102:58] have predictability and we don't have
[103:00] that in Tucson. We already have a tough
[103:02] economic environment and that's due to
[103:04] primarily to regulation. Uh some of
[103:07] these business owners I was talking to
[103:08] over the weekend at this celebration at
[103:10] this f Indian festival said why why we
[103:13] have to pay more fees because the city
[103:15] of Tucson can't pay their bills. Um and
[103:19] because that's the truth in the city of
[103:20] Tucson reflexively it's like well just
[103:22] raise fees raise the cost to do business
[103:24] in the city of Tucson. So we have a very
[103:27] fraught for a number of years uh uh
[103:30] economy here and part it's it's
[103:32] exacerbated with public public safety
[103:34] and people feel it uh especially
[103:36] families. I mean of course the powerful
[103:38] testimony from that young man stood
[103:39] before the city council uh earlier this
[103:41] year and said I can't even practice my
[103:44] with my football team in the park
[103:46] because there's a bunch of homeless
[103:48] people doing drugs uh in in the park and
[103:51] we can't we can't even play in our park.
[103:52] Um I I think that so people are just
[103:54] tired of it. But I think that there is a
[103:56] an exacerbation. So that's one. I and I
[103:58] think state police is is an option. I
[104:00] believe it should be exercised by the
[104:02] governor uh for towns that are not going
[104:04] to do their job. But uh it's also about
[104:06] funding. Uh state police are
[104:08] underfunded. I mean
[104:10] >> it's not like it's just the city of
[104:11] Tucson. State police don't have we it's
[104:14] not like there's a sales tax or
[104:15] something that the legislature can levy
[104:17] to help support police. It comes out of
[104:19] the general fund and it's so there
[104:21] aren't the same options like that at a
[104:23] city or or a county might have in
[104:25] funding their police. There there are
[104:26] fewer fewer options, few fewer streams
[104:29] of revenues. We just we need to pay them
[104:31] uh and we need to hire more. I was just
[104:33] talking with uh the troopers and they
[104:35] were like we're the roads are unsafe in
[104:38] certain areas of the of the of of of the
[104:40] state because we just don't have enough
[104:42] officers uh state troopers to to man
[104:44] them. And so we need we need to do that.
[104:46] but they are an option also for for
[104:48] local. So I think that that's important.
[104:49] Uh and so I do I do appreciate that
[104:51] that's happening. I appreciate that
[104:53] Katie Hobbs is sending sending those
[104:54] troopers down to secure our community,
[104:56] but it shouldn't be. It just shouldn't
[104:58] be. Absolutely.
[104:58] >> Um uh but the other is is deregulation.
[105:01] Uh the city of Tucson Pum County
[105:03] exercise a tremendous amount of of
[105:05] regulatory uh uh uh privilege and it is
[105:09] it is choking business. We talk about
[105:11] affordable housing. You know, a lot of
[105:13] my Democratic uh uh colleagues here in
[105:16] Tucson complain about housing
[105:18] affordability, but 30% of the cost to
[105:20] build is regulation. If you want to cut
[105:22] it or or land availability,
[105:26] then then stop making it so difficult,
[105:28] approve plat, lower the cost to build,
[105:31] stop requiring, you know, EV chargers
[105:34] and all of the new home builds that
[105:36] you're doing and and and and and get
[105:38] these projects moving forward. supply is
[105:40] the answer because supply is the
[105:42] problem. We need to increase supply and
[105:45] uh but but they you know affordable
[105:47] housing for for my for my Democratic
[105:49] colleagues is some kind of a uh another
[105:52] government uh subsidy where the
[105:54] government's paying taking tax dollars
[105:56] and paying for it. We don't need to do
[105:57] that. We can drive down costs by
[105:59] building supply. Um and we can build
[106:01] better. Uh right now they're I mean the
[106:03] lots that they're building in they're
[106:04] cramming so many houses in there. It's
[106:06] like the airplane seats, you know, where
[106:08] they're trying to squeeze in another two
[106:10] or three so they can make the p the
[106:12] project pencil. Um, and so those uh at
[106:16] the state level uh really working on on
[106:19] the regulatory environment that that
[106:20] exists elsewhere in the state. I'm
[106:22] hyperfocused here obviously, but that
[106:24] that exists elsewhere in the state.
[106:25] Those are those are some priorities.
[106:27] Well, I and I think there's
[106:28] opportunities there and I know because
[106:30] of how plugged in you are in the
[106:32] business community here and working with
[106:34] uh groups like SALC and others. Um
[106:38] you've heard Jim Toe talk about housing
[106:41] and and how it's not just the regulatory
[106:44] costs. It's the fact that we're using a
[106:47] model for how we determine what the
[106:50] taxes you have to pay when you build a
[106:52] house from the the 60s.
[106:54] >> Yep. Mhm.
[106:55] >> And it's it's
[106:56] >> Well, isn't that Arizona in general? I
[106:57] mean, the gas tax from 1992
[107:00] 4 whatever one 91 so 35 years. I mean I
[107:04] mean it's like it's like this is our
[107:05] model. It's like we don't touch it after
[107:07] a long time. Even though our population
[107:09] has more than doubled even though you
[107:11] know things have changed. We we don't do
[107:13] a good job at the state of revisiting
[107:15] our our structures and our models.
[107:17] >> But we want 425 to be permanent.
[107:20] >> Right. [clears throat]
[107:20] >> Think about it. Think about it. Uh, you
[107:23] know, I I hear what you're saying. I
[107:25] understand it. You're You guys are up
[107:27] north. I'm south of Tucson. Everybody is
[107:29] fleeing Tucson. It's affecting the
[107:32] schools. It's affecting the safety. When
[107:34] I moved here, I moved in the south part
[107:36] of of
[107:38] >> well into Saworita. And I remember
[107:41] saying to my husband, "This will be
[107:42] great because as we get older, we can go
[107:45] ahead and get a condo in Tucson and just
[107:48] have the ability to walk to theater."
[107:51] And so when I came here, I wanted base.
[107:54] Well, my husband wanted baseball,
[107:56] theater, opera,
[107:57] >> university, symphony. We had 14 things.
[108:02] It's gone.
[108:04] >> Yeah.
[108:04] >> Within a a direct flight from it was one
[108:08] of my criteria, a direct flight from
[108:11] Tucson to DC. Even though it was going
[108:13] into IAD, I needed that flight. I hadn't
[108:17] been here a year and that flight was
[108:19] gone. time. There's people miss the fact
[108:22] that a vibrant economy is what helps
[108:26] solve a lot of these solutions. But when
[108:29] the government gets to the point where
[108:30] they're going to solve it without
[108:32] helping that economy grow, it gets
[108:34] worse. So
[108:36] >> here here's a challenge that and and
[108:38] you've worked with a lot of people.
[108:40] You've worked with a lot of folks in the
[108:41] current legislature.
[108:43] When you go when you go up there, we'll
[108:45] just jump to the when. when you go
[108:47] there, do you believe you can bring the
[108:49] Arizona the the southern Arizona
[108:51] delegation, which is going to be
[108:53] predominantly Democrats, along with you
[108:55] on some of these?
[108:56] >> I think that there's opportunity. I
[108:58] think that there's opportunity to work
[108:59] together specifically on education. I
[109:01] mean, the Democrats are are, you know,
[109:03] that's been an issue that they've
[109:05] championed. I don't think that we agree
[109:06] on what that looks like because I'm not
[109:09] interested in just dumping a bunch of
[109:10] money into a system that that broadly
[109:13] doesn't seem to be functioning. Um, and
[109:16] we need to I but I am willing to
[109:17] consider putting more money into a
[109:19] system that if we take if the state
[109:21] takes more control and more oversight of
[109:23] a system that's working, then we can
[109:25] look at uh whether or not we need to put
[109:28] more money into it because I do believe
[109:30] that we need a fully uh funded and
[109:33] properly properly structured education
[109:35] system for the producing the things that
[109:37] the state needs. So I think that there's
[109:39] overlap. I do, but I do believe that my
[109:41] Democratic colleagues, you know, they
[109:43] want an education system that works. So,
[109:45] we're going to try I'm going to try to
[109:46] find uh the places uh where there is
[109:49] overlap that we can uh work on
[109:51] something. Education is going to take is
[109:52] is a big hall. It's not going to be one
[109:54] party. There's no supermajority in the
[109:57] legislature for either party. So, it's
[109:59] going to require, you know, people being
[110:02] able to work across the aisle for
[110:04] solutions. And I just think, you know,
[110:06] that we need to, you know, we need to be
[110:08] able to do that because education, I
[110:10] mean, we're leading this the the state
[110:11] in high school dropouts. I I mean, I
[110:15] don't
[110:15] >> another fine honor.
[110:16] >> I Well, and we are minting I I I try to
[110:19] tell people this for Republicans. I try
[110:21] to tell my Republican colleagues, I
[110:22] said, "We are have an industrialcale
[110:24] production
[110:26] through the education system of families
[110:28] that are going to need government
[110:29] assistance for the rest of their lives
[110:31] because they're failing. If if you can't
[110:33] get a high school diploma, what what are
[110:35] you going to get into? Minimum wage.
[110:38] Again, Tucson leading the charge $15.
[110:40] Now it's over $15 minimum wage is
[110:42] driving entry- level jobs out of the
[110:44] market. Meaning those jobs that might
[110:47] have been available uh for for people
[110:49] who are uh lower don't have that high
[110:52] school level education, they're
[110:53] disappearing. I know because we were at
[110:55] the YMCA. I was working I was running
[110:57] the Northwest YMCA when this happened
[110:59] and we couldn't make it pencil. So we
[111:01] said, well, all of these jobs now are
[111:03] going to require additional levels of
[111:05] work. So we're paying, you know, above
[111:08] minimum wage at the Y eventually, but
[111:11] not to do welcoming at the front desk
[111:14] anymore. Those entry level jobs that
[111:16] these high school kids were coming in
[111:17] and taking, that these early college
[111:18] kids were taking. Now it's you got to do
[111:20] routines in the in their bathrooms
[111:22] because we have to offset for facilities
[111:24] and now you're going to do X, Y, and Z.
[111:26] And we were adding to the load because
[111:27] we couldn't afford it. So these jobs are
[111:29] leaving the market.
[111:30] >> That that's that's a concept that I
[111:32] think people miss by things that minimum
[111:35] wage and other uh
[111:38] >> help to businesses drive is you're now
[111:41] employing what you just explained is you
[111:42] are now employing less people,
[111:44] >> fewer people, fewer people and those
[111:46] jobs are working more. So you're paying
[111:47] them more, but it's still an overall
[111:49] cost savings to you from trying to pay
[111:52] somebody the full minimum wage. You just
[111:53] add a dollar on an individual and give
[111:56] them more responsibility. Now it's
[111:57] earmarked to inflation.
[112:00] >> So it's it makes it even harder on
[112:02] service-based businesses and then we
[112:04] want to complain while these people
[112:05] aren't making a good living. Well, we're
[112:07] trying to do what we can, but that's
[112:09] also what helps to drive out jobs from
[112:10] the market. And I want to go back to
[112:13] education just because I heard you talk
[112:14] about it the other day when you're
[112:16] talking about you're thinking one of the
[112:17] things that we're missing in our
[112:19] education system is we don't have the
[112:21] northstar of what we want for our high
[112:24] school graduates.
[112:25] >> Yeah. and what we what are we trying to
[112:27] create in our education system? You you
[112:30] you talk specifically about an increase
[112:32] I believe in civics and can you kind of
[112:34] talk to your thoughts on why we have to
[112:36] re
[112:37] >> so our education system is is just
[112:39] scattered. So we have district schools,
[112:41] we have charter schools, we have private
[112:42] schools, we have home schools, we have
[112:45] um and then we have the Jed or the CED
[112:47] programs which isn't required. So
[112:49] they're fighting to get kids that should
[112:51] be required
[112:53] creating intentionality. So if if if we
[112:54] work backwards graduation, we want
[112:57] students to have a skill set if they're
[112:58] not going to college or the or prepared
[113:01] to go to college. Right now, your high
[113:04] school diploma does not mean that you've
[113:06] met the minimum requirements to go to
[113:07] any of the state universities, but state
[113:08] dollars are paying for all of it. I
[113:10] mean, that's absurd. I mean, it's just
[113:12] it's absolutely ridiculous. There's no
[113:13] alignment between K through 12 and
[113:16] postsecary. So now we have kids that are
[113:18] coming into to higher education. the
[113:20] amount of remediation that we have to do
[113:22] to get them to level in their first year
[113:24] is is is extensive. It's a lot. So,
[113:27] they're having to take more classes once
[113:28] they get into college just before they
[113:30] get into college level stuff. But not
[113:32] everybody's going to go to college. And
[113:33] we've been pushing kids to everybody go
[113:35] into a four-year degree program. We need
[113:37] to be working with kids once they reach
[113:40] high school, if not earlier, on what are
[113:42] the paths. Are you going to end up are
[113:44] your grades going to get you into
[113:45] college or are we going to start working
[113:47] on getting you a job into one of these
[113:49] fine industries like aerero airplane
[113:52] mechanics or vehicle mechanics or or or
[113:55] any of the trades or you want to get
[113:57] into beauty or or you know get your
[113:59] certifications in the salon businesses
[114:01] or things like that. We need to start
[114:03] working and we need to treat education
[114:05] as a pipeline into gainful employment.
[114:08] And this is bizarre that this doesn't
[114:10] seem to be the the driver. And if and
[114:14] and then the so the other one is because
[114:16] once these people graduate, it's a
[114:17] cyclical system. If they get a job, once
[114:19] they get out, whether it's post-secary,
[114:21] they go to college and then they get a
[114:22] job or they get a job right out of high
[114:24] school, they pay taxes. And the more
[114:27] people paying taxes, the more people go
[114:28] back in, money goes back into the system
[114:30] so that we can fund the next generation
[114:31] to come through. This is how it's
[114:33] supposed to work. And then uh the other
[114:35] is uh uh uh good citizens. We need
[114:38] people that are leaving with an
[114:40] appreciation for the American way of
[114:41] life and how we have our government and
[114:43] the intendent responsibilities
[114:46] that they have in order to perpetuate
[114:48] and secure it. And we just don't have
[114:49] it. We have kids that are leaving our
[114:50] system that think America sucks. And I'm
[114:53] sorry, but you should be we should be
[114:55] creating cheerleaders
[114:57] >> uh for for the American system and the
[114:59] American way of life. I don't want the
[115:01] complexity of the world being dumped on
[115:03] a bunch of high school kids. uh they can
[115:05] learn that in college and they will
[115:06] learn it in college or elsewhere, but
[115:08] they don't need to learn it in the
[115:09] education system. We treat the education
[115:11] system as it's like, well, you know,
[115:13] we're here to make your dreams come
[115:15] true. No, we're not paying tax dollars
[115:17] so that people can live their dreams.
[115:19] They can go we're here to give them
[115:21] tools so that they can go make figure
[115:24] out how to make themselves happy. But
[115:27] we're we're failing on both of those.
[115:29] And the educ the the university system
[115:31] needs to be aligned as well. I will say
[115:33] this, working in the education system
[115:35] and higher education, it's underfunded.
[115:37] We're not putting enough money into
[115:38] state tuition. That is residents who
[115:41] decide to stay here and go to school in
[115:43] our universities. But there's also,
[115:45] here's the counterbalance, which
[115:46] Republicans are right on. There's not an
[115:48] alignment with industries. You know, why
[115:50] do so many kids are graduating from the
[115:52] University of Arizona when our top
[115:53] industries are uh uh aerospace uh and
[115:56] defense are uh health and mining and we
[116:00] have most of our kids are graduating
[116:01] with liberal arts degrees. We don't have
[116:03] a pipeline into the industries that
[116:06] locals residences res kids with in in
[116:08] that live here can go to college and
[116:10] then immediately move in to a sector
[116:13] that is relevant for them to earn a
[116:15] living. Again, the state's interest is
[116:16] people paying taxes. I mean that's
[116:18] that's our interest and we have it's
[116:20] like we don't we don't recognize it.
[116:22] >> The more people that are working also
[116:24] creates a better society. It just does.
[116:27] More people contributing
[116:29] >> to everything we want in the society
[116:32] whether it's the arts or whether it's
[116:35] >> enough folks using the airlines so that
[116:37] we've got the direct flights out of
[116:39] Tucson. We want it. The government can
[116:42] never prop up the society. The society's
[116:44] got to generate it themselves. And I
[116:46] think that's
[116:46] >> we have to trust people,
[116:47] >> but you have to what the government does
[116:49] is give give skill sets to people so
[116:52] that they can live their lives and make
[116:54] good decisions and generate wealth. And
[116:56] I know that that's sometimes a bad word
[116:58] in politics. But government doesn't
[117:00] generate wealth. It spends it. That's
[117:03] it. It takes it from people who
[117:04] generate. Government doesn't generate
[117:06] wealth. People do. And we need that
[117:09] because we need we need uh because
[117:10] that's that's how people live their
[117:12] lives, pay their bills by I mean that's
[117:15] how I pay my bills. I go out and I I
[117:17] earn a living. I have a skill set and
[117:19] and and I get paid for that skill set.
[117:21] Uh and so that's that's where the
[117:23] education system in in the state of
[117:24] Arizona. And the problems with it is it
[117:27] is so dispersed and you have every
[117:30] district 236 districts making their own
[117:32] choices. You have all of the charters
[117:34] making their own choices. You have all
[117:36] the private schools making their own
[117:37] choices. You have all of the home
[117:39] schools making their own choices. And
[117:41] but the state's paying now for all of
[117:43] it. And it's like, but shouldn't the
[117:46] state be we call, again, I always say
[117:48] this, we call it an investment. What is
[117:50] our return? And I don't think anybody's
[117:52] happy with the return. I'm not. I don't
[117:54] think anybody's happy with the return.
[117:56] Um and and and and I I I just think it
[117:59] needs to be fixed.
[118:01] You know, everything that we've talked
[118:03] about today since six o'clock this
[118:05] morning has been segmented pieces of the
[118:08] economy. And the problem that we have is
[118:12] going back to Congressman Schwikert. The
[118:14] problem that we have is we need to take
[118:17] a more um kind of look at it as an
[118:20] umbrella and start looking at all the
[118:22] issues whether it's education, whether
[118:25] it's business. Um so I have a question
[118:28] for you. What committees do you want to
[118:29] be on? uh appropriations and I'm
[118:32] debating between um natural resources or
[118:36] education because we have huge barriers
[118:39] to the future economy in water, energy,
[118:42] and land use. Uh and those will strangle
[118:46] the economy in the future. Arizona's,
[118:48] you know, has tons of opportunity right
[118:50] now, but if we don't solve some problems
[118:52] and ease some restrictions, we're going
[118:54] to we're going to strangle the economy
[118:55] in the next 5 to 10 years. Well, we're
[118:57] going to get strangled in southern
[118:58] Arizona because we're losing population
[119:00] in Coochis. Greenley and Graham were
[119:03] never very big. Santa Cruz was never
[119:05] very big. Puma is suffering. And so, you
[119:10] are going to be one of the only
[119:14] representatives who lives in Puma County
[119:18] who goes to Phoenix.
[119:20] And we need to look at Panal, Puma,
[119:25] Coochis, Greenley, Graham, Santa Cruz,
[119:29] Yuma, or else we might as well just go
[119:31] ahead and rename ourselves. And
[119:33] President Trump's done this well. Maybe
[119:35] your job will be to go up there
[119:37] [laughter] and change the state name to
[119:39] Maricopa. A
[119:40] >> and and we're going to have to work on
[119:41] it. Now, John Winchester will be staying
[119:43] around with Ron Arenas right after this
[119:44] on Southwest Flavor. Unfortunately,
[119:46] we've hit the time. Umpire John. Yes, I
[119:49] heard you tell me that there was an A10
[119:51] in my rearview mirror. But guess
[119:52] [laughter] what? I looked over the
[119:53] shoulder and the F-16 had pulled far
[119:55] away from it. No threat there. But
[119:57] here's one for you, Empire John.
[119:58] Tomorrow on Chris, you will have Matt
[120:01] Mark Van Bern coming in to countdown his
[120:03] top 10 movies dealing with military
[120:06] aircraft in military conflicts.
[120:10] >> So, that could be a good good show for
[120:11] that. And uh and Empire John, I know
[120:13] you'll be listening intently. We'll see
[120:15] if they've got any uh good A10 movies
[120:16] out there. Um can't recall one yet, but
[120:19] we'll we'll work on it. Uh it's always
[120:21] good having people here. Thank you to
[120:23] Chris. We appreciate you allowing
[120:25] Shelley and I to co-host. Shel, as
[120:27] always, it's been a phenomenal
[120:29] opportunity with you.
[120:30] >> Pleasure to work with you.
[120:31] >> And we're going to go to the break now.
[120:33] When you come back, you will still see
[120:34] John Winchester. You won't see Ted and
[120:36] Shel. And you'll [laughter] be joined by
[120:37] Ron Arenas for Southwest.
[120:40] >> Have a great day and have a great
[120:42] weekend.