Nightline (ABC) - 1999-07-29

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[0:01] July 29th, 1999.

[0:09] First, there were nine dead in an

[0:12] Atlanta office building.

[0:14] >> The witnesses knew who Mr. Barton was,

[0:17] identified him as the person that had

[0:19] shot them or had done the shooting. So,

[0:22] we have a positive ID on Mr. Barton as

[0:25] the shooter. Then miles away, three

[0:28] relatives of Mark Barton were found

[0:30] dead. They had been shot earlier in

[0:33] their home.

[0:34] >> The three more victims in Stockbridge do

[0:37] include children.

[0:39] >> Then it emerged that years ago, Barton's

[0:42] former wife and mother-in-law were

[0:44] murdered, although Barton himself was

[0:47] never charged. A few moments ago at Lake

[0:50] Aworth and Cowan Road in Cobb County at

[0:53] a BP station, Mr. Barton was pulled over

[0:57] and committed suicide.

[0:59] Tonight, the strange case of Mark

[1:02] Barton.

[1:07] From ABC News,

[1:12] this is Night Line

[1:14] reporting from Washington. Ted Cobble.

[1:20] We are about to tell you a story

[1:22] involving at least a dozen murders,

[1:24] maybe more, and ultimately a suicide.

[1:27] But it is not, as we all initially

[1:29] believed, a story that just happened

[1:31] today. It seems to have terrible roots

[1:34] going back 5 years or more. Today's

[1:37] killing rampage was preceded by another

[1:40] far more personal one. And there may

[1:42] have been a couple of other murders long

[1:44] before those. Tonight, we're going to

[1:47] attempt to put it into some kind of

[1:48] perspective. But this business of trying

[1:51] to find order in chaos can itself be a

[1:53] terribly confusing process. As this

[1:56] story first broke this afternoon, the

[1:58] focus on Mark Barton had to do with the

[2:00] fact that he was believed to be a

[2:01] customer of the Altech Investment Group

[2:04] at their offices in the Buckhead section

[2:06] of Atlanta. It is a day trading company

[2:09] through which investors can and do make

[2:12] the sort of instantaneous stock

[2:14] transactions that can earn or lose huge

[2:16] amounts of money almost instantaneously.

[2:19] The initial assumptions were that Barton

[2:21] had lost a lot of money. The first

[2:23] reports were all about the disgruntled

[2:26] day trader who must have lost a bundle

[2:28] and then went berserk. No, said the

[2:30] chief executive of Altech from his

[2:32] company headquarters in New Jersey. He

[2:35] knew about Barton, but Barton hadn't

[2:37] traded with his company since sometime

[2:39] in April. So there was no apparent

[2:41] reason whatsoever for him to start

[2:43] shooting people at Altech. Five dead at

[2:46] that office and no apparent reason. And

[2:49] then other strange aspects of the story

[2:52] emerged. Barton had first gone to the

[2:55] offices of Momentum Securities and there

[2:58] he'd killed four people. Barton was

[3:01] identified long before he was found. So

[3:03] police went to his home about 30 mi

[3:06] away. He had split up with his wife less

[3:08] than a month ago. She had taken an

[3:11] apartment with their two children and

[3:13] independently of all that was happening,

[3:15] someone worried about them, went to

[3:17] check on them and found them all dead.

[3:21] And then yet another story emerged,

[3:23] reaching back five or six years to a

[3:25] previous marriage and the murder of a

[3:28] previous wife and that woman's mother,

[3:29] Barton's mother-in-law. He had been a

[3:32] suspect in those killings, but never

[3:34] prosecuted. Bizarre. Just wait. Night

[3:38] Line has learned that Mark Barton did

[3:40] lose a pile of money day trading only

[3:43] yesterday. $70,000 at Momentum

[3:47] Securities. And shortly before his first

[3:49] wife and mother-in-law were bludgeoned

[3:51] to death six years ago, Barton had taken

[3:54] out a huge insurance policy on his

[3:56] wife's life. We'll get into all of that

[3:59] shortly, but first, ABC correspondent

[4:01] Aaron Hayes brings us up to date on the

[4:04] story that seemed to begin in a bloody

[4:06] flurry just this afternoon.

[4:10] >> A window has been broken on the second

[4:12] floor.

[4:14] >> There was some shooting going on inside

[4:16] the building.

[4:17] >> It was chaos.

[4:21] So many in these buildings had been

[4:23] unaware of the danger until they saw

[4:25] police running through their halls.

[4:27] >> And they were with their backs against

[4:29] the wall, the guns drawn like you'd see,

[4:30] you know, in a movie. And basically they

[4:33] said, "Close the door. Clo the door.

[4:34] Close the door." And on the ground uh on

[4:36] the carpet, there was a little betrayal

[4:38] of blood.

[4:38] >> Some office workers broke out windows,

[4:41] called to police who crawled inside.

[4:43] Police begged many to stay inside with

[4:45] doors locked. Some of those workers,

[4:48] anxious to let family know they were

[4:50] safe, spoke to reporters by phone.

[4:52] >> There are three other women in the

[4:54] office with me now. I'm just scared and

[4:56] I just would like to get out of here.

[5:01] >> Police found bodies, nine of them in two

[5:04] separate brokerage firms in two

[5:06] different office buildings. SWAT teams

[5:08] surrounded the whole office complex

[5:10] here, stunned and puzzled. No idea yet

[5:13] who the shooter was or where.

[5:17] As they could, they scrambled office

[5:19] workers to safety, many in shock.

[5:21] >> I saw in the management office a pool of

[5:24] blood. And uh when I saw that, I ran in

[5:26] my office, told everybody it had

[5:27] obviously been a shooting.

[5:28] >> They said, "Get down. He's got a gun.

[5:29] There he is up on the roof and he had a

[5:32] girl up there with him. He was holding

[5:33] her over the edge of the over the edge

[5:35] of the building."

[5:36] >> Nell Jones was standing eye to eyee with

[5:38] him

[5:39] >> when he exited

[5:41] the heart of the office. So I was the

[5:45] first person to look into his eyes.

[5:48] >> And what did you see?

[5:49] >> Uh someone who was very

[5:52] calm and determined.

[5:57] >> No feelings. No feelings.

[5:59] >> And he pointed the gun at you and fired

[6:02] >> directly. Yes.

[6:03] >> Somehow the bullet did not hit her. As

[6:06] police were struggling to clear each

[6:07] office building, word came through on

[6:09] the identity of the suspect, Mark

[6:11] Barton. He was 44 years old. He lived in

[6:15] moral. He was a chemist.

[6:17] >> And authorities believe he may well have

[6:19] known some of those shot.

[6:21] >> Over the last few months, he had been

[6:23] actively engaged in day trading.

[6:26] According to those who seem to have

[6:28] information, he had substantial swings,

[6:32] losses, and gains. Um seemed to indicate

[6:36] some concern about financial losses.

[6:38] >> But he apparently gave no clue to his

[6:40] victims. said little when he walked into

[6:42] their offices, smiled, said hello, and

[6:45] began shooting. Through the evening

[6:47] hours here, it was tense with fear. Not

[6:50] knowing where he was, where he was

[6:52] headed, what he might do. And then at

[6:55] this Atlanta gas station, 5 hours after

[6:57] the shooting had begun, police cornered

[6:59] Mark Barton. He did not shoot at them or

[7:02] run.

[7:03] >> There is no information that he

[7:05] attempted to flee. He was pulled over

[7:08] and then apparently killed himself at

[7:10] that time.

[7:11] >> That quickly it was over. And now the

[7:13] questions, why? What could have brought

[7:16] a man to this point? What was the life

[7:18] that led him here? Aaron Hayes, ABC

[7:21] News, Atlanta.

[7:24] >> And joining us now live from Atlanta,

[7:25] Steve Osansami, ABC correspondent, who

[7:28] is covering the murders at Barton's

[7:30] home. And Steve, my assumption earlier

[7:33] on was that it was the police who once

[7:35] they learned of his identity went to the

[7:37] home and found the wife and children,

[7:39] but you've learned otherwise.

[7:41] >> Actually, it was a maintenance worker

[7:43] who called in the apartment to check on

[7:45] Mrs. Barton's welfare. Neighbors say she

[7:48] was active in Girl Scouts and failed to

[7:50] show up for an activity Wednesday night,

[7:52] so they knew something was wrong. With

[7:54] that discovery, the maintenance worker

[7:56] not only solved that disappearance, but

[7:58] in the end may have helped to explain

[8:00] why this rampage began.

[8:06] Of Barton's aranged wife, police are

[8:08] finding evidence his rage began days

[8:10] ago. Leanne Barton was found dead in a

[8:13] closet. Investigators believe she was

[8:15] killed Tuesday. his two children from

[8:18] his previous marriage, 12-year-old

[8:20] Matthew and 7-year-old Shelley, lying

[8:23] dead in their own beds. Police believe

[8:25] they were killed yesterday.

[8:27] >> Why to a person when they get ready to

[8:30] go out this world, why do they have to

[8:31] take so many people with them?

[8:34] Just unbelievable that our world has

[8:37] come to this.

[8:38] >> It just it's just mind shattering, you

[8:41] know? I mean, you just can't understand.

[8:42] You can't imagine. Investigators say he

[8:45] covered each of the victims with

[8:46] blankets and left notes all over the

[8:49] home.

[8:50] >> There are also notes placed on the the

[8:54] little girl and on on the little boy.

[8:57] And there's also a note placed a top of

[9:00] where we think that his wife is. Police

[9:03] found another note in the living room.

[9:05] This one written on a computer.

[9:08] Investigators say it tells the whole

[9:10] story in uncomfortable detail. Barton

[9:13] was renting a home nearby. Police are

[9:16] there now searching for more clues.

[9:19] >> And joining us now from Atlanta, Joe

[9:21] Skipper. Joe, uh, help me out by quickly

[9:23] telling us where you work and how you

[9:26] came to be uh, involved in this story.

[9:28] >> Um, I work at Momentum Securities. Um,

[9:31] I've been trading there for about 4

[9:33] months. Um, I was there in the office

[9:36] today when Mark Barton came in and

[9:38] started his shooting rampage. Now, do

[9:40] you have any sense of what it was that

[9:42] might have so upset him today?

[9:44] >> Um, I don't really want to speculate on

[9:46] that. I'm I'm assuming that he lost a

[9:49] large amount of money.

[9:50] >> Well, you're you're doing more than

[9:51] assuming. You know that he lost a large

[9:52] amount of money.

[9:53] >> Well, I I don't really want to speculate

[9:56] on that.

[9:56] >> I I'm not asking you to speculate. I'm

[9:58] asking you to tell me what you know.

[10:00] >> Um, I know what I saw. I saw him go on a

[10:01] shooting rampage today. Um, I scrambled

[10:04] into a side office with a colleague. Um,

[10:08] I flipped the desk over, pinning it

[10:10] against the door, holding the door shut

[10:13] with the uh desk. Mark Barton came and

[10:16] tried to uh force his way into the room

[10:19] um with no success. He shot through the

[10:21] door twice, missing my head by 3 4 in.

[10:24] >> Now Joe, as you know, the folks over at

[10:26] Altech said he stopped trading there

[10:28] sometime back in April.

[10:30] >> Yeah, that's right.

[10:30] >> But he had been trading much more

[10:32] recently at Momentum, right?

[10:33] >> That's correct.

[10:34] >> Up until yesterday. up until yesterday.

[10:37] >> Uh, and it is it is not unlikely that he

[10:40] lost a great deal of money.

[10:42] >> That's correct.

[10:43] >> Um, do you have any sense of what might

[10:46] have happened at Altech and why he left

[10:49] Altech? And I I'll tell you exactly why

[10:50] I'm asking. We have learned from one

[10:52] source over there uh that he might not

[10:55] have been able to meet his margin call.

[10:57] In other words, that he had debts over

[10:59] there and that he was no longer able to

[11:00] trade there. Have you ever heard

[11:01] anything like that?

[11:02] >> Um, I I haven't heard anything like

[11:04] that. Uh so of him you know only that he

[11:08] was fairly big player. I mean did he did

[11:11] he uh invest large sums of money?

[11:13] >> I didn't know anything like I didn't

[11:14] know how much money he had, how much he

[11:16] invested or how much he put on the line.

[11:17] I only knew that he rented out a

[11:19] terminal just like I did at Momentum

[11:21] Securities.

[11:22] >> But when he left yesterday, did he seem

[11:25] particularly upset?

[11:27] >> Um I didn't see Mark Barton yesterday

[11:28] leave.

[11:29] >> And when he came in today, did he give

[11:31] any indication before he started

[11:33] shooting?

[11:33] >> Um no, he did not. As a matter of fact,

[11:35] I passed by him maybe 2 minutes before

[11:37] he started shooting. He said, "How are

[11:39] you doing?" And I said, "Fine." Um, he

[11:41] walked by. I went and used the

[11:43] telephone. I came back and sat down. Um,

[11:45] that's when I heard the gunshots going

[11:47] off.

[11:48] >> All right. Well, I thank you very much

[11:49] and we will go on with the story in just

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[14:15] >> Joining us now, John Cabrer, an employee

[14:17] of the state tollway authority. across

[14:19] the courtyard from one of the offices

[14:21] where Barton killed people this

[14:23] afternoon. I guess the simplest thing is

[14:25] just to ask you what you saw and when

[14:27] >> Well, uh, what I saw is actually what I

[14:30] heard first, which were the gunshots and

[14:32] there were so many in rapid succession.

[14:34] It sounded like an aluminum ladder being

[14:36] thrown down a stairwell. Uh, just bang

[14:38] bang bang bang bang bang bang.

[14:39] >> Did you know what it was running away?

[14:41] Uh, I what I thought was that it was a

[14:44] window washer that might have fallen

[14:46] from the building. And I I looked

[14:48] outside and I saw someone out on the

[14:50] walkway smoking and just this look of

[14:53] terror on his face. And then all of a

[14:55] sudden, he uh took off and went back

[14:57] into the building. So, I ran outside and

[15:00] met another guy running towards me

[15:02] yelling, "Call the police. Call the

[15:03] police." So, I let him back into our

[15:05] offices and I called 911.

[15:08] And

[15:10] uh when when the 911 operator uh

[15:13] answered the phone, it became evident

[15:14] that a lot of people were calling in for

[15:16] the same thing. So I just I just told

[15:18] her that I had heard gunshots and I hung

[15:20] up and I walked back across the walkway

[15:22] towards the offices and I could see a

[15:25] couple of uh security men.

[15:27] >> You're talking about Altech's offices

[15:29] now or your own?

[15:30] >> These are No, these are at Altech,

[15:32] >> right? Uh, I could see some security

[15:35] people moving towards towards the

[15:36] offices. And I walked into the the rear

[15:40] entrance, the emergency exit, and

[15:43] immediately to my left on the floor,

[15:45] there were two men lying in pools of

[15:48] blood. Uh, the one closest to me was uh

[15:52] he was awake and uh aware of his

[15:54] surroundings. He was trying to feel

[15:56] around for his gunshot wounds. And uh I

[15:58] told him not to try and move. And I

[16:01] looked up and it was it was apparent

[16:03] immediately that everyone was in shock

[16:05] because you know they weren't really

[16:08] trying to uh take care of the wounded

[16:11] yet. They were still

[16:12] >> You mean a lot of people just standing

[16:13] around doing nothing?

[16:14] >> Well, not doing

[16:15] >> or in shock.

[16:16] >> In shock.

[16:17] >> Uh it only took a few more seconds for

[16:19] everything to kick in for everybody. But

[16:21] I went to the other gentleman which was

[16:23] farther away from me on the left and he

[16:26] was uh apparently deceased already. We

[16:28] tried to revive him. Uh, but that was

[16:31] not successful.

[16:32] >> How long How long before any of the

[16:34] authorities showed up?

[16:35] >> Uh,

[16:37] I believe it was probably another

[16:39] another five or six minutes before the

[16:41] first paramedics showed up. But, uh, I

[16:45] mean, looking at the condition of some

[16:46] of those people, if they had been there

[16:48] 2 minutes after the gunshots, uh, I

[16:50] don't think there's more that they could

[16:51] have done.

[16:52] >> And then very quickly, um, you were

[16:56] forced to stay in the building. I mean,

[16:57] at that time they thought that Barton

[16:59] might still be in the building, right?

[17:00] >> Uh, yes. Although, uh, no one was really

[17:03] too concerned about that at the moment.

[17:05] There was some security all over the

[17:06] grounds looking for him. Uh, as more and

[17:09] more paramedics arrived, not realizing

[17:11] what they were walking into. Uh, they

[17:14] had to take care of the wounded there.

[17:15] So they sent us out to the ambulances to

[17:17] bring in more of the supplies, more of

[17:19] the oxygen, more IVs, and uh just to,

[17:25] you know, help them out as much as we

[17:26] could.

[17:27] >> John Gabber, thanks very much indeed.

[17:28] Joining us now live from our Atlanta

[17:30] affiliate, WSB, is the mayor of Atlanta,

[17:33] uh, Bill Campbell. Are you beginning to

[17:36] get your arms around this yet? I mean,

[17:37] this is this story just gets stranger

[17:39] and stranger and more and more bizarre

[17:41] and more and more horrible the more you

[17:42] learn about it. Unfortunately, however

[17:45] bizarre it is, Ted, the uh the

[17:48] unvarnished truth for us is there are

[17:50] nine people that are dead in our city

[17:52] and we must now comfort their families.

[17:55] And of course, there's still people that

[17:57] are injured at the hospital. So, this

[17:59] tragedy has many proportions for us. And

[18:02] I don't think I've ever seen anything

[18:04] quite like it in my entire life. And

[18:06] when you talk about the nine people who

[18:07] were dead in Atlanta, you're not

[18:09] counting the you're not counting the

[18:11] wife and the two children who appear to

[18:13] have been killed a few days ago.

[18:15] >> That's exactly right. And once the

[18:18] dimensions of the tragedy unfolded as we

[18:20] were trying to search for Mr. Bardon, it

[18:23] became clear that it was not simply a

[18:25] case of someone who has had a financial

[18:29] loss and then reacted aggressively as a

[18:32] result of it, but rather a deranged

[18:34] killer who was simply seeking to exact

[18:37] revenge on people he did not know. It's

[18:41] very hard to explain quite honestly.

[18:43] >> To those of us, Mr. mayor in the rest of

[18:45] the country who may not know Atlanta

[18:48] quite as well. How far away was he from

[18:51] the Altech office building when he when

[18:55] he was was he pulled over by the police

[18:57] or did they just happen to spot him?

[19:00] >> Once we identified Mr. Barton and of

[19:03] course that was fairly easy because many

[19:05] of the people who were shot knew Mr.

[19:07] Barton and identified him instantly. We

[19:09] had a picture from his driver's license.

[19:12] The authorities who worked tremendously

[19:14] well in cooperation with both the local

[19:17] and federal and state authorities were

[19:19] able to get an identification of his

[19:21] driver's license, the vehicle, and the

[19:24] tag number. He was pulled over by

[19:26] suburban authorities and then shot

[19:29] himself as he was being pulled over.

[19:32] >> How far away from from the uh the point

[19:34] of the shooting was he? How far out of

[19:36] town had he made?

[19:37] >> Perhaps perhaps 10 to 15 miles from the

[19:40] site of the killing. But I mean, they

[19:41] they identified the vehicle, they knew

[19:43] whom they were pulling over, when they

[19:45] pulled him over.

[19:46] >> I I think it's fair to say, Ted, that

[19:48] once the dimensions of the tragedy

[19:50] unfolded, virtually every law

[19:52] enforcement personnel in the state began

[19:55] an active search for Mr. Barton. We knew

[19:57] the dimensions of the tragedy, nine

[19:59] people. Then, as we understood that he

[20:02] had killed his wife and two children,

[20:04] there was a very active and aggressive

[20:06] search on every level. And it was only a

[20:09] matter of time before he was spotted and

[20:11] pulled over and of course he then killed

[20:13] himself and we're now left to deal with

[20:15] this tragedy. And we're trying to do so

[20:17] with prayer as you can imagine.

[20:18] >> Absolutely. And and you know the prayers

[20:21] of the nation are with you and with the

[20:22] people of Atlanta and all the families

[20:24] and and the folks who are in the

[20:25] hospital and we'll be talking to one of

[20:27] the surgeons at the hospital later. Mr.

[20:29] Mayor, I know it's been a long and

[20:30] dreadful day for you. Thank you so much

[20:32] for coming in and taking the time.

[20:34] >> Thank you very much. When we come back,

[20:36] who was Mark Barton and could this

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[23:29] >> Mark Barton's story became more and more

[23:32] complicated before the back one goes.

[23:34] Chris Bury has been sorting out the

[23:36] details of this extraordinary story.

[23:39] Chris,

[23:39] >> the witnesses knew who Mr. Barton was.

[23:42] identified him as the person that had

[23:44] shot them or had done the shooting. So,

[23:47] we have a positive ID on Mr. Barton as

[23:50] the shooter.

[23:51] >> Early this evening, Mayor Campbell, like

[23:53] everyone else, was trying to answer the

[23:55] questions, who was Mark Barton, and why

[23:58] would he kill and kill so many?

[24:01] >> He was a chemist who then began day

[24:04] trading stocks,

[24:07] apparently had substantial swings up and

[24:10] down. That's all we have at this point.

[24:14] >> Thus far, we have no idea. We have no

[24:17] idea what caused Mr. Barton to begin

[24:20] shooting.

[24:21] >> 44 years old, 6'4, Barton had recently

[24:25] been day trading at offices of the

[24:27] Alttech Investment Group, one of the

[24:29] places where he left his victims dead

[24:31] and wounded today. There are conflicting

[24:34] reports about how often Barton played

[24:36] the markets from here. I believe he was

[24:38] one of our remote clients trading from

[24:41] his home dealing with our Atlanta office

[24:43] and I'm told he hasn't traded in many

[24:45] months.

[24:46] >> Barton, his second wife, and two young

[24:48] children from his first marriage had

[24:50] recently moved into these apartments

[24:52] where the bodies of his son, daughter,

[24:54] and wife were found. Tonight, neighbors

[24:56] said there had been marital problems and

[24:58] a recent separation. One woman said she

[25:01] noticed something strange about Barton

[25:03] earlier this week. Now, I noticed

[25:05] Tuesday night when he come to pick up my

[25:07] grandson, he did look a little peculiar.

[25:09] Had a certain look in his eyes that he

[25:11] didn't usually have.

[25:12] >> The Bartons had moved from a street

[25:14] called Sinclair Place in Marorrow,

[25:16] Georgia. Tonight, neighbors up and down

[25:18] the street described Barton in telephone

[25:20] interviews as articulate, smart, and not

[25:24] particularly friendly.

[25:25] >> The typical American family man. I have

[25:29] come in and know many times we were

[25:30] going to church on Sunday morning. And I

[25:32] would see he and his family coming out

[25:34] getting ready to go to church in their

[25:35] van. And they were um they wasn't, you

[25:39] know, very uh friendly people. They

[25:41] wasn't outgoing, but they were just a

[25:42] typical family.

[25:43] >> He was like intelligent and and smart

[25:47] and kind of brainy, you know. He was a

[25:49] he was a quiet type of guy. He had a he

[25:51] had a nice family. Two little kids and a

[25:53] wife.

[25:53] >> He was not a

[25:56] social person. I mean, well, I mean, he

[25:59] just didn't get out and just didn't

[26:00] talk. He would speak if

[26:04] you know if I mean just throw his hand

[26:06] up or something when he was in the van

[26:09] driving by or if he was out in the yard.

[26:12] He just throw his hand up or something

[26:14] like that.

[26:14] >> He was never the friendly type. You

[26:17] know, he never spoke to any of the

[26:18] neighbors come out to the street and had

[26:19] any of the, you know, the street talks

[26:20] we'd have and stuff like that.

[26:22] >> I feel saddened by it.

[26:25] I feel sad that we missed the

[26:27] opportunity to prevent this thing from

[26:30] happening. You see, we we never know

[26:33] when we prevent something like this from

[26:35] happening. We only know when we didn't.

[26:39] And we didn't this time, and it's a

[26:42] great tragedy.

[26:43] >> In 1993, Barton was center stage in

[26:46] another tragedy. The brutal murders of

[26:48] his previous wife and mother-in-law.

[26:50] They were found bludgeoned to death in

[26:52] this campground in Alabama, where they

[26:54] had gone to spend the Labor Day weekend.

[26:56] Police say the trailer had no signs of

[26:59] forced entry and they considered Barton

[27:01] the primary suspect, but did not have

[27:03] enough evidence to charge him. We spoke

[27:06] by phone tonight with Cherokee County

[27:08] Sheriff Roy Wyn about the murders of

[27:11] Deborah Barton and her mother. They were

[27:14] uh killed near Cedar Bluff at Riverside

[27:16] Campground

[27:18] by some type blunt instrument or cutting

[27:21] type instrument of some sort. He was a

[27:23] prime suspect from the very start. Um

[27:27] the uh the case was still open.

[27:30] Uh you know, we hadn't we hadn't been

[27:32] able to receive anything on it in some

[27:34] time. Uh but uh you know, we we felt we

[27:38] felt sure that he was he was our man.

[27:40] What was your reaction when you heard

[27:42] about the shootings in at near Atlanta?

[27:44] >> Well, basically I said, "Man, I wish we

[27:46] could have nailed him first."

[27:48] >> Other local officials said they had good

[27:50] reason to suspect Barton in the 1993

[27:52] murders. A strong motive for one thing.

[27:55] >> Just very shortly before this happened.

[27:58] Uh, several circumstances surrounded it.

[28:01] Uh, he was uh

[28:05] going with another lady. the lady that

[28:07] he killed this time. He was he married

[28:10] her shortly after the funeral of his

[28:13] first wife. They uh he had taken an

[28:18] $600,000 insurance policy out on the the

[28:22] wife that uh was killed. There was never

[28:24] any forensic evidence, never any

[28:26] eyewitness evidence, never any

[28:28] incriminating statements from him. There

[28:30] was nothing to go with that. And being a

[28:32] suspect is a great deal different from

[28:34] being a charged defendant. Tonight, one

[28:37] investigator told Night Line he felt

[28:39] quote sick, very sick, knowing that

[28:42] Barton had escaped prosecution for the

[28:44] murders of his wife and mother-in-law in

[28:46] 1993. In fact, for more than 5 years

[28:49] now, Barton's father-in-law has been on

[28:51] a crusade, pressuring authorities all

[28:53] the way up to the governor's office to

[28:55] prosecute the man he calls a psychopath.

[28:58] Tonight, he told Night Line he has now

[29:00] lost everything, his wife, his daughter,

[29:03] and today his two grandchildren. Ted,

[29:06] >> Chris, thanks very much. Uh, as we heard

[29:08] just a moment ago, Mark Barton took out

[29:10] a substantial insurance policy just

[29:13] before his ex-wife was murdered, but the

[29:15] insurance company didn't want to pay.

[29:18] That story and the story from Mr. the

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[32:41] Attorney Michael Huffman represented

[32:43] Mark Barton in the Alabama murders of

[32:45] his ex-wife and mother-in-law. He joins

[32:47] us from our Atlanta affiliate WSB. He

[32:50] was never charged with the murders. So,

[32:52] what what were you representing him for?

[32:55] In in what capacity?

[32:56] >> There was a civil action over the

[32:59] insurance policy. the company didn't

[33:01] want to pay.

[33:02] >> That is correct. Um primarily because of

[33:05] the short period of time in which the

[33:07] policy was in existence and combined

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[33:13] authorities belief that he was involved

[33:15] in the homicide. The civil attorneys

[33:18] brought me into the case to deal with

[33:20] the criminal aspects of the case.

[33:22] >> Now he uh he eventually received what

[33:26] the whole 600,000

[33:27] >> uh very close to that. um he received a

[33:30] substantial portion of that and a large

[33:32] portion of the um funds went into a

[33:34] trust account for the children.

[33:36] >> Um obviously today you must have

[33:39] slightly different feelings. I mean no

[33:41] no attorney is required to believe in

[33:43] the innocence of his client but whatever

[33:44] you felt 6 years ago. How do you feel

[33:46] today?

[33:47] >> Um I am stunned that this had happened.

[33:50] I'm saddened that there was this

[33:52] tragedy. Um however I still believe he

[33:55] was innocent of the crime in um Alabama.

[33:57] really

[33:58] >> they had absolutely no proof back then

[34:01] that he had committed the offense. In

[34:03] fact, um

[34:05] they had another suspect who's presently

[34:09] in custody in Indiana that had um

[34:13] confessed to the killings,

[34:14] >> but they never they never charged that

[34:16] person with that crime, did they?

[34:18] >> And they did not.

[34:20] >> I beg your pardon?

[34:21] >> No, they did not. I

[34:23] >> I'm astonished at what you're saying

[34:24] here. Here's a man who today shot nine

[34:27] people. A couple of days ago, shot his

[34:29] second wife and or killed his second

[34:32] wife and two children. I don't know if

[34:33] he shot them uh 4 days before his

[34:37] previous wife and mother-in-law are

[34:39] found. He takes out a $600,000

[34:42] life insurance policy on his wife. And

[34:44] you don't think he had anything to do

[34:46] with it?

[34:46] >> Um, absolutely not. I think he was

[34:48] devastated by the fact that she was

[34:50] killed back then. Um

[34:53] he um he he was horrified by it. Um and

[34:58] that

[34:58] >> well he said he was horrified by it.

[35:00] >> Well, you know, I I think I could tell

[35:02] by um my dealings with him that that it

[35:06] was something that that had devastated

[35:08] him. the um fact that the person who's

[35:12] in prison in Ind Indiana um was present

[35:16] at the scene. My client was 100 miles

[35:19] away with um a pretty good alibi.

[35:22] There's a person in Indiana who's

[35:24] present at the scene of that murder. Um

[35:26] confessed to the murder and had access

[35:29] to the type of weapon that was used in

[35:31] that murder, which which was a very

[35:33] unusual type of hatchet.

[35:34] >> Hold on one second. You're telling me

[35:35] that someone was apprehended in Indiana

[35:38] who confessed to this murder but has

[35:40] never been charged with a murder. That's

[35:42] passing strange, isn't it?

[35:43] >> Um,

[35:46] I'm not a prosecutor in Alabama. It's

[35:49] not my job to prosecute their cases. Um,

[35:51] >> but your client, as I understand it,

[35:53] refused to take a lie detector test at

[35:55] the time. It doesn't have to. I

[35:56] understand that. But that doesn't sound

[35:58] too good either, does it?

[35:59] >> Well, he does. Number one, he doesn't

[36:01] have to. Number two, polygraph tests

[36:03] really don't work.

[36:04] >> I understand. And but if you if you're

[36:05] trying to show your innocence and you've

[36:07] got nothing to be concerned about and

[36:08] you're as horrified as you say he was,

[36:10] would have been a simple thing to do.

[36:12] Did you advise him not to take it?

[36:13] >> I always advise clients not to take

[36:15] polygraphs.

[36:16] >> And you did in this case.

[36:17] >> I'm basic. Yeah. They're basically

[36:18] witchcraft. I mean, you know, it's it's

[36:20] a good interrogation tool. You can get

[36:24] people to answer questions, but they

[36:26] can't tell if you're telling the truth

[36:27] or not.

[36:28] >> But six six years ago, you were

[36:29] convinced this man was not a murderer.

[36:31] And today, I guess you say you're as

[36:33] shocked as everybody else.

[36:35] >> Absolutely. It is something I didn't

[36:37] think he had in him.

[36:38] >> Mr. Hoffman, I thank you very much.

[36:40] >> Thank you. Have a good night.

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[39:37] people who were shot and killed today.

[39:39] Seven of today's shooting victims were

[39:41] sent to Grady Memorial Hospital,

[39:43] Atlanta's premier trauma center. Dr.

[39:46] Leon Haley is the director of the

[39:48] emergency room. Dr. Haley, I seem to

[39:50] have lost your picture. Can you still

[39:51] hear me? All right, though.

[39:54] >> Well, we There's Dr. Haley. Dr. Haley,

[39:56] what can you tell me about the condition

[39:57] of the people who were injured?

[39:59] >> Well, there were seven individuals that

[40:01] were transported to our institution. Um

[40:04] originally uh one of those individuals

[40:06] was uh suffered a gunshot went to the

[40:08] back and she was actually discharged

[40:09] home in relatively good condition. The

[40:12] remaining six are still here. Three of

[40:14] whom are in the ICU in critical

[40:16] condition. Another two that are on the

[40:18] floor in good and serious condition and

[40:21] another individual who is in an

[40:23] intermediate care unit right now in

[40:24] guarded condition.

[40:26] >> Tell me what critical condition means in

[40:28] in this instance.

[40:30] In this instance, uh these are

[40:32] individuals whose injuries were enough

[40:34] that required operative intervention at

[40:36] that time. Um it's going to require

[40:38] close monitoring in the uh ICU uh via

[40:41] both both the nurses as well as the

[40:43] physicians. Um we're going to have to

[40:45] watch them closely over the next 12 to

[40:47] 24 hours. Uh and hopefully once they can

[40:50] clear that mark, we'll have to continue

[40:52] to watch them and make sure they do

[40:53] well. Uh actually I was I was over as

[40:56] you may know CNN earlier this evening

[40:59] when you were talking to Larry King and

[41:00] at that time you were still concerned

[41:02] that these people might survive. Uh are

[41:05] you at least over that concern now?

[41:08] >> Uh I think uh there's at least one or

[41:10] two individuals that we're going to

[41:12] still have to monitor very closely um to

[41:15] see how they do over the next 12 to 24

[41:17] hours. I think there still is an issue

[41:19] of how well they're going to do and

[41:20] survival still is an issue. Um, the

[41:22] other individuals I think have cleared

[41:24] the first couple hurdles and we should

[41:26] be able to observe them and monitor them

[41:27] appropriately and they should do okay,

[41:29] but we'll have to see.

[41:30] >> I realize we're not talking about your

[41:32] hospital, but my understanding is and I

[41:34] just want to be sure that you have the

[41:35] same information altogether. I believe a

[41:38] dozen people were injured and I guess

[41:40] the other five were taken to another

[41:42] hospital or other hospitals.

[41:44] >> That's correct. We had seven transported

[41:46] to this institution. Another five uh

[41:49] were split between three other

[41:50] institutions in the city.

[41:52] >> Do you by any chance know what what the

[41:54] condition of those folks is?

[41:55] >> Um at this time I do not, sir.

[41:57] >> All right. Well, Dr. Haley, I guess at

[41:59] the moment things are, if you'd sum it

[42:02] all up, about as good as can be expected

[42:04] for the patients you have in your

[42:06] hospital.

[42:07] >> That's correct. Um fortunately, we have

[42:09] had one individual who's done well

[42:10] enough to be able to be discharged home

[42:12] this evening. We have two other

[42:13] individuals who are on a regular floor

[42:15] which are encouraging signs and all of

[42:17] the individuals that initially went to

[42:19] the operating room or are out of the

[42:20] operating room and in the intensive care

[42:22] unit. So, we do have some encouraging

[42:23] signs, but there are some things we're

[42:25] going to have to monitor more

[42:26] appropriately.

[42:26] >> Well, we wish you good luck and thank

[42:28] you for taking the time. Uh it's good of

[42:30] you to do.

[42:31] >> Thank you.

[42:32] >> We'll recap today's events in and around

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[43:09] >> To recap now what we know at the end of

[43:11] this tragic day. Nine people were shot

[43:13] and killed, 12 others wounded this

[43:15] afternoon at two brokerage offices in

[43:18] Atlanta. The gun was gunman was

[43:20] identified as Mark Barton. An investor

[43:23] reportedly upset about recent trading

[43:25] losses. One source of information tells

[43:28] us that he lost as much as $70,000 only

[43:32] yesterday. After a citywide manhunt,

[43:34] Barton was stopped by police and

[43:36] committed suicide in his van. Shortly

[43:39] after today's shootings, Barton's wife

[43:41] and two children were found dead at

[43:43] their home outside Atlanta. Stay with

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[43:50] Atlanta shootings. That's our report for

[43:52] tonight. I'm Ted Cppel in Washington.

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[45:02] >> Watch Bob Mueller week nights on News 2

[45:04] at 6 and 10.

[45:09] Ladies and gentlemen, the star of

[45:12] Politically Incorrect, Bill Mars.

[45:20] Bill's guest tonight and Meera,

[45:23] Lisa Anne Walter,

[45:26] Randy West,

[45:28] and Rick Roberts. Fantastic.

[45:31] What a crowd. What a night. Thank you.

[45:34] Thank you so much for being in a good

[45:35] mood because it is a tough day. I tell

[45:37] you, there was a horrible shooting down

[45:38] in Atlanta. I'm sure you heard about

[45:40] that. But just shows you perspective.

[45:42] You know what people are really dying

[45:43] from in greater numbers? The heat. How

[45:45] many are from places where the heat is

[45:47] insufferable?

[45:49] Okay.

[45:51] Over uh I think they said about 70

[45:53] people have died already from this.

[45:55] Especially tough on the elderly. Health

[45:57] officials are telling the elderly,

[45:59] please stay indoors and if you have to

[46:02] go outside, uh please for God's sakes,

[46:04] stop wearing the black dress socks with

[46:07] your shorts. That I screwed that up

[46:10] badly, didn't I? All right. Well, okay.

[46:13] That's all right.

[46:15] Now, heat of a different kind. Uh,

[46:17] President Clinton today was hit with a

[46:20] $90,000 judgment, which he's got a pony

[46:22] up for his lying in the Paula Jones

[46:25] case.

[46:31] What are you applauding that