CNN - The Situation Room and Lou Dobbs Tonight - 2006-07-14

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[0:00] in the situation room where new pictures

[0:02] and information are arriving all the

[0:04] time. Standing by, CNN reporters across

[0:07] the United States and around the world

[0:09] to bring you today's top stories.

[0:11] Happening now, the Middle East in

[0:13] meltdown. It's 11 p.m. south of Beirut

[0:16] where Israeli warplanes have struck at

[0:18] the heart of Hezbollah. The guerilla

[0:20] group keeps firing back with a rocket

[0:22] barrage in northern Israel. Is there any

[0:24] hope for a ceasefire or does this mean

[0:27] allout war? We have live reports from

[0:29] the region. Plus, we'll get insights

[0:32] into the spiraling conflict from

[0:34] government insiders in Israel as well as

[0:36] here in the United States. The former

[0:38] Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin

[0:39] Netanyahu and former Secretary of State

[0:42] Lawrence Eagleberger. They're standing

[0:43] by. Also this hour, former CIA operative

[0:47] Valerie Plain Wilson speaking out,

[0:49] accusing Vice President Dick Cheney and

[0:51] others in the administration of shameful

[0:54] conduct. It's 400 p.m. here in

[0:56] Washington where Wilson and her husband

[0:58] say they expect their new lawsuit

[1:01] against the Bush administration

[1:02] officials to be a tough fight. I'm Wolf

[1:05] Blitzer. You're in the situation room.

[1:15] Hisbala

[1:24] leader Hassan Nalla is declaring open

[1:27] war with Israel after Israeli war

[1:29] plananes attacked the militant group

[1:31] stronghold south of Beirut and hit the

[1:33] building where Nallala lives. The

[1:35] Israeli cabinet today gave the green

[1:37] light to continue the assault by land,

[1:39] sea, and air in retaliation for the

[1:42] kidnapping of two Israeli soldiers.

[1:44] Hisbala fighters are on the offensive as

[1:46] well, stepping up rocket attacks on

[1:49] northern Israel. And Israel says one of

[1:51] its gunboats off Lebanon has been

[1:53] lightly damaged by what appears to be a

[1:55] rocket. At least 63 people in Lebanon

[1:58] have been killed in the fighting and at

[1:59] least 10 Israelis have died and dozens

[2:02] have been injured in both countries.

[2:05] Thousands of Lebanese are pouring across

[2:07] the border to Syria to try to escape the

[2:10] attacks by Israel. Lebanon's prime

[2:12] minister says he's asked President Bush

[2:14] to press for a ceasefire. And he tells

[2:16] CNN Hisbala's abduction of those two

[2:19] Israeli soldiers was a quote tactical

[2:21] mistake. But he says Israel is

[2:23] overreacting right now.

[2:27] >> Lebanon should not really be dealt this

[2:30] way. actually the retaliated the

[2:33] retaliation of Israel against the

[2:36] abduction of the two of the two soldiers

[2:39] in in the across the blue line is in no

[2:43] way proportionate. It is

[2:44] disproportionate to what has been done

[2:46] and this is not the way how to deal with

[2:48] things.

[2:49] >> We have reporters standing by throughout

[2:51] the region. Suzan Malvo is covering the

[2:53] president's trip in Russia at the G8.

[2:56] John Voss is standing by in northern

[2:58] Israel. Let's go to Beirut first.

[3:00] Allesia Vinci, our man on the scene with

[3:03] the latest from the Lebanese capital.

[3:04] Allesia,

[3:07] >> hello Wol. We witnessed an extraordinary

[3:10] succession of events in rapid succession

[3:12] that is and that indicating how quickly

[3:14] uh the conflict here can escalate. First

[3:17] of all, Israeli gunship firing rockets

[3:20] at the headquarters Hezbollah in the

[3:22] southern part of Beirut, destroying the

[3:25] home and offices of the Hezbollah leader

[3:28] Shik Hassan Nazallah. And moments later,

[3:32] uh, just really moments later, the Shik

[3:34] appearing, making an appearance on

[3:37] Hezbollah television here, Almanar, uh,

[3:40] making an audio an audio tape basically

[3:43] saying that he was doing fine and

[3:44] declaring all at war on Israel.

[3:48] I will not say if you hit Beirut we will

[3:52] hit Hifa. I will not say if you hit the

[3:55] Da the southern district we will hit

[3:57] Hifa. This equation you want it to fall

[4:01] it will fill. We together you want an

[4:05] open war we will go to the open war and

[4:09] we are ready for it. And we are ready

[4:12] for it.

[4:14] War. War on every level.

[4:17] to Hifa and believe me to after Hifa and

[4:22] to after and beyond and beyond Hifa.

[4:28] At the very end of that audio message,

[4:30] Wal Shahik Nazora basically telling his

[4:34] uh viewers that they had to look out of

[4:36] the windows at the gunship that has had

[4:38] that had hit hard at the heart of Beirut

[4:42] because that ship would be uh would be

[4:45] hit and sunk with all its sailors on

[4:47] board. And guess what? Moments later,

[4:50] the IDF confirmed that what appeared to

[4:52] be a rocket had actually slightly

[4:54] damaged one of the ships off the coast

[4:56] of Beirut. And here in the streets of

[4:58] Beirut, in that section of southern

[5:00] Beirut, we heard a celebratory gunfire.

[5:03] So there is definitely here a feeling in

[5:05] the streets of Beirut, in that part of

[5:06] Beirut, of course, that the escalation

[5:09] is really going up really fast. the

[5:11] wolf.

[5:11] >> Uh, Allesio, the Israelis say what

[5:14] they're trying to do is effectively

[5:16] destroy the military capability of

[5:18] Hisbala in Lebanon and that they're

[5:20] methodically trying to go after

[5:22] warehouses, stockpiles of rockets and

[5:25] missiles, ammunition, and other

[5:27] equipment. Is there an element of the

[5:29] Lebanese population that's sort of

[5:30] secretly, quietly applauding this effort

[5:33] by the Israelis to weaken Hisbala?

[5:37] >> No, I don't think so. I think that

[5:39] overall the only thing that really is

[5:41] uniting this chronically divided country

[5:44] is the fact that they're all condemning

[5:46] the Israeli attacks which is not only

[5:48] targeting headquarters but also many

[5:51] many many civilian targets including

[5:53] bridges gas station fuel fuel stations

[5:58] as well of course as the international

[5:59] airports. We've seen now not just the

[6:02] non-nationals leaving Lebanon but also

[6:04] many many Lebanese. So there is

[6:06] definitely a feeling here that Israel is

[6:08] not just hitting at Hezbollah but also

[6:09] at the general population and therefore

[6:12] people here really do not support these

[6:13] kind of actions even if it is weakening

[6:15] Hezbollah.

[6:16] >> All right, Allesio Allesio is on the

[6:17] scene in Beirut for us. Thank you. As

[6:20] Hisbala's leader vows to strike again at

[6:23] the Israeli city of Hifa, the target of

[6:24] an unprecedented rocket attack only

[6:27] yesterday, more rockets are raining down

[6:29] on northern Israel. CNN's John Voss is

[6:32] joining us now from the hard-hit town of

[6:34] Naharia in the northern part of Israel.

[6:36] What's it like there, John?

[6:40] >> Hello, Wolf. Well, it is eerily quiet

[6:41] here tonight as many residents are

[6:43] seeking shelter. But two more Israeli

[6:46] civilians have been killed after the

[6:48] Israeli military says Hezbollah

[6:49] militants have fired more than 90 Kusha

[6:52] rockets today. More than 300 in the past

[6:54] 48 hours in the small farming village of

[6:57] Mount Maron. A woman and her

[6:59] four-year-old grandson died when their

[7:01] house took a direct hit. More than a

[7:04] dozen Israeli towns and communities have

[7:06] come under attack today. Here in Nahar,

[7:08] where we are tonight, this city has been

[7:10] hit twice. Here, at least 30 people have

[7:13] been wounded and the Kushias have been

[7:15] coming down on the city of Sephed.

[7:17] There, a dozen people have been hurt.

[7:20] Residents about 14 miles out from the

[7:22] Lebanon border have been advised by the

[7:24] military to seek protection in bomb

[7:26] shelters and other safe rooms. As well

[7:29] as residents another 30 m out, they're

[7:31] being advised by the military to stay

[7:33] off the streets and to stay indoors.

[7:36] That includes residents of the city of

[7:38] Hifa after the port city was hit by two

[7:40] Hezbollah rockets on Thursday evening.

[7:43] The Israeli military now saying they

[7:45] were not the regular Kusha rockets fired

[7:47] by Hezbollah. They had a much longer

[7:49] range. Israeli officials saying those

[7:51] missiles were made in Iran, but so far

[7:53] they've offered no proof of that. Wolf,

[7:55] >> how far are you right now from the

[7:57] Lebanese border in Naharia? John,

[8:01] >> we're probably about 10 miles, maybe 6

[8:03] milesi away from the Lebanese border.

[8:06] It's very, very close. There are

[8:08] communities closer to the uh to the

[8:11] border than than where we are. And uh

[8:13] this this area basically has come under

[8:16] has sustained some of the more uh

[8:18] serious attacks over the last 48 hours.

[8:21] Well, this was one of the towns where a

[8:23] woman died on Thursday.

[8:25] >> John Voss in Naharia, northern Israel

[8:27] for us. John, be careful over there.

[8:28] Thank you very much. Now to another

[8:30] front in this Middle East conflict.

[8:32] Kamas militants today blew open a gate

[8:35] on the border between Gaza and Egypt and

[8:38] that allowed hundreds of Palestinians

[8:40] caught on the other side in Sinai to

[8:42] cross back into Gaza. A tense scene of

[8:45] several Israeli helicopters hovered

[8:47] overhead. The border crossing has been

[8:49] closed for nearly 3 weeks since the

[8:51] kidnapping of that Israeli soldier in uh

[8:55] near Gaza. Israel responded, as you

[8:57] know, with an offensive aim to trying to

[8:59] recover that soldier, halting

[9:01] Palestinian rocket fire and punishing

[9:03] Hamas, which now controls the

[9:05] Palestinian Authority. But almost a

[9:07] thousand Palestinians managed to come

[9:10] back into Gaza from Sinai thanks to that

[9:13] hole that the Palestinians created in

[9:16] that wall. President Bush, meanwhile, is

[9:18] in Russia for the G8 summit, watching

[9:21] all of this very, very carefully. He's

[9:23] working the phones, calling Middle East

[9:25] leaders about this explosion of violence

[9:28] in the Middle East. Let's bring in our

[9:30] CNN White House correspondent, Suzan

[9:32] Malvo. She's covering the president in

[9:34] St. Petersburg, Russia. Suzanne, update

[9:36] us on how the president is dealing with

[9:38] this Middle East crisis.

[9:41] >> Well, certainly, Wolf, President Bush is

[9:43] here in St. Petersburg, really two days

[9:45] before the official opening of the G8

[9:47] summit. White House officials say to

[9:48] have uh private and frank discussions

[9:50] with his old friend Vladimir Putin. the

[9:52] reported tension over North Korea, Iran,

[9:55] human rights, all of it of course

[9:56] threatening the G8 agenda to overshadow

[9:59] that. But what is key here, what is that

[10:01] what is clear is that it's the Middle

[10:02] East uh peace process, the crisis that

[10:05] is really taking center stage. Before

[10:08] Air Force One even touched down,

[10:09] President Bush was on the phone with key

[10:12] allies in the region, the leaders of

[10:14] Egypt and Jordan, not only to thank them

[10:17] for trying to deescalate the crisis, but

[10:19] also trying to push them of to use their

[10:21] influence with Hezbollah to return those

[10:23] Israeli soldiers. President Bush also of

[10:26] course calling the prime minister of

[10:27] Lebanon Sonora to reassure him that he

[10:30] is in touch the administration in touch

[10:32] with the Israeli government to try to

[10:34] push them of course to exercise some

[10:36] restraint to protect the innocent and

[10:38] also to respect Sor authority.

[10:42] >> My biggest concern

[10:45] uh is

[10:47] whether or not actions taken will weaken

[10:50] the Sonora government.

[10:52] I I the democracy in Lebanon is an

[10:55] important part of

[10:57] laying a a you know a a foundation for

[11:00] peace in that region. We have worked

[11:02] really hard

[11:04] uh to uh get is uh Syria out of Lebanon.

[11:09] Uh UN resolution 1559

[11:12] and its follow-up resolution 1680

[11:16] uh were manifestations of the work of

[11:18] the international community to get Syria

[11:20] out of Lebanon. We've always felt that

[11:23] democracy in Lebanon is important for

[11:25] the Lebanese people and is important for

[11:27] the region. So the concern is that any

[11:31] activities by uh Israel to protect

[11:33] herself will weaken that government and

[11:36] we have made that or topple that

[11:38] government and we made it clear. We've

[11:39] in our discussions

[11:43] >> and Wolf White House officials are

[11:45] denying that President Bush is calling

[11:46] for Israel to stop its attacks. White

[11:49] House officials saying that that is

[11:50] really a call to be made by Israeli

[11:52] military officials. Wolf

[11:54] >> Suzan Malvo traveling with the president

[11:56] in St. Petersburg, Russia. Thank you.

[11:58] Let's check in with Jack Caerty. He's

[12:00] got the Caaferty file. Jack,

[12:02] >> thanks Wolf. There's a new poll out that

[12:03] shows the vast majority of Americans are

[12:06] disgusted with the state of the union.

[12:08] An AP Ipsis poll shows 67% of us say

[12:11] things in this country are on the wrong

[12:13] track. Only 30% of us say we're headed

[12:15] in the right direction. So, who's in

[12:17] charge of the direction? Well, let's

[12:19] see. That would be President Bush. 63%

[12:22] of us say he's doing a lousy job. Only

[12:24] 36% approve of his performance. Who else

[12:27] is in charge of our direction? Oh, yeah.

[12:29] Congress. They're held in even more

[12:31] contempt than the president. 27% approve

[12:34] of the job Congress is doing. 68%

[12:38] disapprove. Meanwhile, we've got these

[12:40] midterm elections coming up, less than

[12:41] four months away now. So, who would the

[12:43] public want to take over the reigns in

[12:45] Washington? If the elections were held

[12:47] today, 36% would like to see the

[12:50] Republicans in control of Congress. 53%

[12:53] say they want the Democrats in charge.

[12:55] Given the fact that 68% of Americans

[12:58] think Congress is doing a crummy job and

[13:00] both houses of Congress are currently

[13:02] controlled by Republicans, here's the

[13:04] question. Are Republicans in danger of

[13:06] losing control of the Congress in

[13:08] November? Your thoughts. CaffertyFile,

[13:10] CNN.com, or go to CNN.com/cafertyfile.

[13:15] Pretty sad state of affairs. 36% of us

[13:17] think the president's doing a good job.

[13:18] Wolf, only 27% of us think those clowns

[13:22] uh down the street on the hill are doing

[13:23] their job well.

[13:24] >> All those numbers have been very, very

[13:26] steady now in a lot of polls over these

[13:28] past several months.

[13:29] >> Yeah, no improvement at all.

[13:30] >> Thanks, Jack, very much. Coming up, more

[13:33] new developments in the Middle East

[13:34] crisis. I'll ask the former Secretary of

[13:36] State Lawrence Eagleberger. always

[13:38] outspoken. Whether a diplomatic solution

[13:41] is possible. Plus, will the open war, as

[13:44] the Husbala leader calls it, have a

[13:46] reverse domino effect in the Middle

[13:48] East. Our Jeff Greenfield looks at the

[13:50] fight to bring dem democracy to the

[13:52] region, including Iraq. And later, you

[13:55] may have seen her face before. You

[13:57] certainly have if you've seen this

[13:58] program, but you probably haven't heard

[14:00] heard her voice until now. The former

[14:03] CIA operative Valerie Pla Wilson

[14:06] speaking out about the leak that made

[14:07] her famous and about her new lawsuit

[14:10] against the vice president Carl Rove and

[14:13] Lewis Scooter Libby. Stay with us.

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[17:07] >> Checking some of the new new

[17:08] developments in the Middle East.

[17:10] Hezbollah's leader is declaring open war

[17:13] with Israel. Iran's president is

[17:15] expressing support for Lebanon and Syria

[17:17] and is calling on Israel to quote end

[17:19] its aggression. Lebanon's prime minister

[17:21] is suggesting that Hisbala was

[17:23] irresponsible in kidnapping those two

[17:25] Israeli soldiers. But he calls Israel's

[17:27] response quote disproportionate. And the

[17:30] Pentagon is developing scenarios for

[17:32] evacuating perhaps as many as 25,000 US

[17:35] citizens from Lebanon if necessary. The

[17:38] crisis in the Middle East is a daunting

[17:40] test for a bedrock principle of the Bush

[17:42] administration. Here's our senior

[17:44] analyst, Jeff Greenfield. Jeff Wolf,

[17:48] conflicts produce casualties, not just

[17:50] among combatants and civilians, but for

[17:53] hopes, ideas, policies. Right now, one

[17:56] potential casualty of Middle East

[17:57] violence is a root premise of the Bush

[17:59] administration that the spread of

[18:01] democracy is the best way to increase

[18:03] the prospects for stability and peace in

[18:05] that region.

[18:08] All during the run-up to the Iraq

[18:09] invasion and ever since, the president

[18:12] has argued that there is an inextricable

[18:14] link between freedom and stability.

[18:16] >> We seek the advance of democracy for the

[18:18] most practical of reasons.

[18:21] Because democracies do not support

[18:22] terrorists

[18:24] or threaten the world with weapons of

[18:26] mass murder. And as freedom advances

[18:29] heart by heart and nation by nation,

[18:33] America will be more secure and the

[18:36] world more peaceful. Moreover, prominent

[18:38] neoonservatives had been arguing for

[18:40] years that the replacement of Saddam

[18:42] Hussein by a free Iraqi government would

[18:45] trigger a benevolent reverse domino

[18:47] effect in the region, encouraging regime

[18:50] change in Iran, which would in turn dry

[18:52] up support for Hezbollah and Islamic

[18:54] jihad, which would in turn increase

[18:56] chances for Middle East peace. While

[18:58] there have been exercises in democracy

[19:00] in the region, at least if we define

[19:02] democracy in the narrow sense of

[19:04] relatively free elections, Hezbollah,

[19:07] condemned by the United States as a

[19:08] terrorist organization, ran in the

[19:10] Lebanese elections last year, won about

[19:13] 20% of the seats in parliament and heads

[19:15] two cabinet ministries. But that

[19:17] political power has greatly limited the

[19:20] power of Lebanon's government to disarm

[19:22] Hezbollah, which now holds two Israeli

[19:24] soldiers.

[19:26] Iran, which funds and supports

[19:28] Hezbollah, had a free election in June

[19:30] of 2005 and chose as its president,

[19:34] Mahmood Amarad, who has repeatedly

[19:37] denied that the Holocaust ever happened

[19:39] and who has made what may charitably be

[19:41] described as provocative threats against

[19:43] the very existence of Israel. And in

[19:45] January of this year, Hamas, another

[19:48] organization the US calls a terrorist

[19:50] organization, won a landslide victory in

[19:53] Palestinian parliamentary elections.

[19:56] Hamas claims responsibility for

[19:58] capturing an Israeli soldier, an act

[20:00] which triggered the current outbreak of

[20:02] violence that now threatens to spread to

[20:04] Syria and possibly even Iran. It would

[20:07] of course be ludicrous to locate the

[20:08] source of current trouble in the Middle

[20:10] East in the decision to invade Iraq. The

[20:12] Middle East has been at or over the edge

[20:14] of violence for decades. But it's also

[20:16] fair to ask whether the optimism about

[20:18] democracy was wellplaced. From Germany

[20:20] in the 30s to Yugoslavia 15 years ago,

[20:23] freely elected governments have pursued

[20:25] highly aggressive policies. And given

[20:27] more recent events, the idea that the

[20:29] spread of democracy would inevitably

[20:30] lessen hostility seems to have been

[20:32] severely weakened by events.

[20:36] Wol

[20:36] >> Jeff Greenfield, thank you very much.

[20:38] Let's talk a little bit more about the

[20:40] exploding tensions in the Middle East

[20:41] and the stakes for the US and the world.

[20:44] For that, we're joined by the former

[20:46] Secretary of State, Lawrence

[20:47] Eagleberger. He's joining us from

[20:48] Charlottesville, Virginia. Mr.

[20:50] Secretary, first of all, what do you

[20:51] make of what Jeff Greenfield just said

[20:53] about democracy maybe uh backfiring a

[20:56] little bit? Well, if you if you take it

[20:59] in the very short terms that he has,

[21:02] it's clear that you know these these

[21:04] governments have been these people have

[21:06] been elected by uh people who were

[21:09] unhappy with the way in which for

[21:11] instance Arafat had been running the

[21:13] Palestinian process. The point here I

[21:16] think is what the president's talking

[21:18] about and what I think makes sense is

[21:20] democracy when it takes root in that

[21:23] part of the world and begins to flourish

[21:25] then I think things begin to change. I

[21:27] think it's unfair to uh charge the Bush

[21:30] with a failure here on democracy over

[21:32] these these particular elections

[21:35] particularly in Iran where you you may

[21:37] call it free if you wish but as you will

[21:39] recall there were any number of

[21:41] candidates who refused the place on the

[21:43] ticket. So I think what you have to talk

[21:46] about is democracy as it takes root in

[21:48] this part of the world, not some

[21:50] particular election in which a lot of

[21:52] very unhappy Palestinians, for example,

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[21:56] another.

[21:57] >> All right. The the Israelis are coming

[21:59] under a lot of criticism, including from

[22:01] Europeans, that they're overreacting to

[22:04] the killing and kidnapping of these

[22:06] Israeli soldiers. the French president

[22:08] Jacques Shirock saying, "I find honestly

[22:10] like most Europeans that the reactions

[22:13] uh are completely disproportionate." Did

[22:16] Israel overreact?

[22:18] >> Uh no. I you if you want to put it in

[22:22] strictly again the narrow context of a

[22:24] couple of soldiers being captured and

[22:26] then the Israelis reacting, I guess you

[22:29] could argue yes, but the fact of the

[22:31] matter is that they put it in our terms.

[22:34] If this same sort of thing were

[22:36] happening in the United States, do you

[22:38] think we would be exercising restraint

[22:40] and trying to to stop it? As far as I'm

[22:42] concerned, the Israelis have every right

[22:45] to be doing what they're now doing.

[22:47] Whether it will be effective or not is

[22:49] another question, but I think they have

[22:51] a right to defend themselves and I think

[22:53] they have a right when other people are

[22:55] attacking them from outside Israel, they

[22:58] have a right to go after them. And

[23:00] finally, I would say so long as the

[23:03] Iranians can put arms into into

[23:06] Hezbollah through Syria, uh I think we

[23:09] have a continuing problem. And I for a

[23:11] long time have felt we had to get much

[23:13] tougher with the Syrians than we are

[23:15] now. Uh it may be that the Iraq issue

[23:18] has made it it more difficult for us to

[23:20] get tough, but the Syrians clearly

[23:23] criminals in this thing. What

[23:24] >> what does that mean, Mr. Secretary? To

[23:26] get tougher with the Syrians? Well, it

[23:29] what it means to me is that we for one

[23:31] thing ought to be putting real pressure

[23:33] on their border with with Iraq more than

[23:36] we are and I think putting economic

[23:38] pressure on them. And frankly, I don't

[23:40] care as well if we go in along with the

[23:43] Israelis and drop a few bombs on them or

[23:46] at least put it this way. I would not

[23:48] object if the Israelis get tougher with

[23:50] the Syrians. The only danger there is

[23:52] the Israelis, I think, are already being

[23:55] pushed to the to the limits of how much

[23:56] they can do. But if it requires putting

[24:00] some force into the game with Syria, I

[24:03] would do it. I wouldn't start there, but

[24:05] I think if the Syrians were to

[24:07] understand very clearly that the next

[24:09] step on our part was to get really

[24:11] nasty, that might begin to change some

[24:13] things. How do you get the Iranians who

[24:16] to stop funding and providing military

[24:19] equipment to Hzbollah?

[24:21] >> I don't know how you do that because our

[24:23] our ability to limit the Iranians

[24:27] is to put it mildly uh less than than

[24:31] much. I I do think if you can stop the

[24:34] Iranian flow of support through Syria

[24:37] into Hezbollah that begins to make a

[24:40] difference. In other words, here the key

[24:41] to some degree in this regard is Syria.

[24:44] If this if the Iranians can't get the

[24:46] stuff there, then it begins to weaken

[24:48] the the Hezbollah and it it limits as

[24:51] well Iran's influence. But I have no

[24:54] idea at this stage how we can do much

[24:57] with regard to Iran unless we are

[24:59] prepared to get much nastier than I

[25:01] think we should be or are at the moment,

[25:04] particularly given the the support of

[25:06] our very wonderful and courageous

[25:08] European allies. Uh some have suggested

[25:11] that the Bush administration should

[25:12] dispatch some very high level special

[25:14] envoys to the region to try to cool

[25:16] things down so that an allout regional

[25:19] war doesn't develop. Uh a Lebanese

[25:22] politician the other day on my Sunday

[25:24] show Foued Makumi suggested that the

[25:27] first President Bush and Bill Clinton

[25:29] get together for example and go back and

[25:31] try to ease this crisis. Is this a good

[25:33] idea?

[25:36] I guess Wolf, that I have to say is that

[25:38] at this stage, I don't know that I would

[25:41] ask two presidents to do this, but at

[25:43] this stage, if the president wants to

[25:45] select somebody who is well known and

[25:48] has a great deal of respect in that part

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[25:52] see what he can do, I won't object, but

[25:54] I must tell you, in fact, I'd support

[25:56] it, I guess. But I would support it

[25:58] largely because it would be a

[25:59] demonstration that the United States is

[26:02] trying to do what it can to cool things

[26:04] there. I do not however think that it's

[26:06] going to in substance I don't think it's

[26:08] going to make much difference but as a

[26:10] as theater I don't mind doing it.

[26:12] >> Lawrence Eagleberger the former

[26:14] Secretary of State thanks for coming in.

[26:16] >> My pleasure both.

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[29:17] Welcome back to the situation room. I'm

[29:19] Wolf Blitzer in Washington. in the

[29:20] crisis in the Middle East exploding now

[29:22] for a third day. In new attacks, Israel

[29:25] keeps smashing Lebanon's links to the

[29:27] outside world. And Israeli war planes

[29:29] struck the stronghold of the Hisbala

[29:32] militants south of Beirut. Another act

[29:34] of retaliation for Israel's cap for the

[29:37] capture Hisbala's capture of two Israeli

[29:40] soldiers. Hisba's leader is declaring

[29:43] open war with Israel and his fighters

[29:45] are bombarding northern Israel with more

[29:47] rockets. Israel's ambassador to the

[29:49] United Nations charged today that the

[29:51] longer range missiles fired at Hifa

[29:53] yesterday were actually made in Iran.

[29:56] And on another front, there's a tense

[29:58] situation unfolding in Gaza. Hamas

[30:00] militants today blew open a border gate

[30:02] into Egypt, allowing hundreds of

[30:04] Palestinians to pass through. The border

[30:06] crossing had been closed for nearly 3

[30:09] weeks since the kidnapping of an Israeli

[30:11] soldier. Now, we want to get a check on

[30:14] the situation in Hifa today. the target

[30:16] of an unprecedented rocket attack

[30:19] yesterday and chilling new threats

[30:20] today. Joining us on the phone from Hifa

[30:22] is the mayor Yona Yahav. Mr. Mayor,

[30:25] thanks very much for joining us. Uh give

[30:27] us a a little flavor of what it's like

[30:30] to be living a resident of Hifa, a city

[30:32] of about 300,000 people.

[30:35] A uh we are not used to be attacked by

[30:39] terrorists even though that we are

[30:40] experiencing that. In the uh first Iraqi

[30:44] war uh we got hit by two missiles. One

[30:49] hit the uh Hifa Bay zone and the second

[30:53] hit the mountain and after so and so

[30:56] many years we are we are again in the

[30:58] same picture. And they I must tell you

[31:01] that the uh Hifa community is very

[31:04] courageous. They uh didn't do a big fat

[31:08] out of it. And uh a day afterwards uh

[31:11] the people uh came back to the routine

[31:15] and uh they uh overcrowded the uh

[31:18] streets and we had to announce uh and we

[31:23] had to ask them to take precautions and

[31:26] I was now wandering around with my car

[31:28] along the streets of the uh city and I

[31:32] must tell you that uh the city is empty.

[31:34] Usually Friday evening uh the uh

[31:38] restaurants, the cafe houses, the pups

[31:40] are solidly packed and today they are

[31:42] nearly empty.

[31:43] >> Are people being advised to stay in

[31:46] bunkers to go underground at night?

[31:48] >> No. No, absolutely not. These advices

[31:52] were conveyed to the people are living

[31:54] up north. But uh in Hifa the people are

[31:57] being requested to stay at home and not

[32:00] more than that. I know you're in touch

[32:02] with Israeli military authorities. Uh

[32:05] what are they saying about the range of

[32:07] these Hisbala rockets, two of which

[32:10] actually reached Hifa? Do they have the

[32:12] kind of rockets or missiles that could

[32:14] cause damage to your community?

[32:17] Uh we uh took in account that the

[32:20] possibility of this kind is possible and

[32:24] we knew that the people are having in

[32:27] their arsenal kind of missiles which can

[32:32] be shot and get 35 or 45 kilometers.

[32:38] And they uh uh the uh labor is a uh

[32:43] ballistic laboratory which uh checked

[32:46] the uh missile which hit Stella Maris in

[32:49] Hifa. They found out that it's a Iranian

[32:53] made and the specialtity about this

[32:56] rocket was that it contained thousands

[32:59] of small metal bullets which uh could

[33:03] spread around and hit a very substantial

[33:06] amount of people. This is the reason why

[33:09] uh the chief command of the city has

[33:12] announced an advice to the people to

[33:14] stay at home because if the same missile

[33:17] will hit again, it can be very dangerous

[33:20] for people because it's the same system

[33:23] like a suicide bomb

[33:27] belt.

[33:29] >> Yona Yahav is the mayor of Hifa. Mr.

[33:31] Mayor, good luck to you and the

[33:32] residents of Hifa. Thanks very much for

[33:35] joining us.

[33:36] >> Thank you very much. and want to inform

[33:39] our viewers, we're trying to get in

[33:40] touch. In fact, we have been in touch

[33:42] with the mayor of Beirut as well. We're

[33:44] hoping to speak with him on the phone at

[33:47] some point, but that's not as easy as it

[33:50] may seem given the current situation

[33:52] unfolding in Beirut, but we'll keep on

[33:54] trying. Meanwhile, military sources are

[33:56] telling CNN the Pentagon is crafting

[33:58] scenarios to evacuate the estimated

[34:01] 25,000 US citizens in Lebanon. And while

[34:04] no orders have yet been issued,

[34:06] Americans are asked to remain in direct

[34:08] contact with the US embassy in Beirut.

[34:11] Here with a little bit more on this

[34:12] developing situation is our internet

[34:14] reporter Abby Tatton. Abby.

[34:16] >> Wolf. A new travel warning has been

[34:17] issued by the Department of State urging

[34:20] US citizens in Lebanon to consider

[34:23] departing the country. A recommendation

[34:25] certainly complicated by those strikes

[34:28] on Beirut's international airport. It

[34:30] does go on to say if you are staying in

[34:33] the country urging people to register

[34:35] with the US embassy in Beirut. That way

[34:38] if the situation develops or worsens the

[34:40] US embassy can keep in contact with

[34:42] those US citizens there. Goes on to warn

[34:45] US citizens away from trouble spots

[34:48] southern Beirut and also warns of the

[34:50] possibility of anti-US demonstrations in

[34:53] Beirut. at the US embassy website in

[34:56] Beirut. A further update has been issued

[34:58] just in the last few hours that also

[35:00] urging people to register to stay in

[35:02] contact and also going on to say that uh

[35:05] the embassy recommends that American

[35:07] citizens remain in a secure location

[35:09] indoors and follow the instructions of

[35:11] local authorities at this time. Wolf

[35:14] >> Abby, thank you. Fria Whitfield is

[35:16] joining us from the CNN Center in

[35:17] Atlanta with a closer look some other

[35:19] important stories making news. Fred,

[35:21] >> hello to you, Wolf. Hot and horrible.

[35:23] That's how a spokeswoman is describing

[35:25] conditions for nearly 3,000 firefighters

[35:27] battling wildfires in Southern

[35:29] California. Two major blazes are at this

[35:31] hour said to be within a half mile of

[35:33] each other, threatening to merge.

[35:35] Hundreds of families are now under

[35:37] evacuation orders. Together, the two

[35:39] fires have burned more than 60,000 acres

[35:42] and are less than 20% contained. Space

[35:45] shuttle astronauts are right now

[35:47] performing a final round of safety

[35:48] checks before heading back to Earth. The

[35:51] latest inspections are designed to look

[35:52] for small nicks and cracks in the

[35:54] shuttle's heat shield that could have

[35:56] been caused by collisions with tiny

[35:58] space particles. A series of earlier

[36:00] tests detected no damage from debris

[36:02] during launch. And police at this hour

[36:05] are investigating suspicious envelope

[36:07] with white powder that showed up at the

[36:09] New York Times headquarters today. A

[36:11] mailroom employee who opened the

[36:13] envelope is undergoing testing. The

[36:15] envelope is said to have had a

[36:17] Philadelphia postmark and no return

[36:20] address. And oil prices and stock prices

[36:23] are continuing to sprint in opposite

[36:26] directions. A short while ago in New

[36:28] York, benchmark US oil futures closed at

[36:30] just over $77 per barrel, another

[36:33] record. Earlier in the day, the price

[36:35] reached an all-time high of $78.40.

[36:39] Meanwhile, the three major US stock

[36:41] indices fell sharply again today, the

[36:43] third straight day of steep declines.

[36:46] Dow Jones Industrial Average gains for

[36:48] the year have now been almost entirely

[36:51] wiped out. Many analysts expect gas

[36:53] prices to rise sharply over the next two

[36:55] weeks. And just a short while ago, the

[36:57] head of one major US energy company

[36:59] reportedly warned US consumers not to

[37:02] expect gas prices to drop after the high

[37:04] demand of the summer passes. Wol

[37:07] >> Fred, thank you very much. We'll come

[37:09] back to you shortly. Just ahead, Israel

[37:12] targeted by Hezbollah fighters firing

[37:14] right back on Lebanon and the militant

[37:16] group stronghold. We'll get the former

[37:18] Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's take

[37:20] on the escalating violence and how and

[37:22] if it will end. And up next though, in

[37:26] the current Middle East crisis, do all

[37:27] roads lead to Iran and its radical and

[37:30] unpredictable president? Stay with us.

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[40:12] reports live from Israel as tensions

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[40:24] >> Welcome back. Iran's president is

[40:26] blasting what he calls the Zionist

[40:28] invasion of Lebanon, and he's expressing

[40:30] support for the Lebanese people and

[40:32] their Syrian allies. Our senior

[40:34] political analyst, Bill Schneider,

[40:36] joining us now with more on the Iranian

[40:38] connection to this current conflict in

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[40:42] East crisis involves Israel, Lebanon,

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[40:48] believe Iran.

[40:52] Do all roads lead to Tehran? In Iran,

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[41:15] supporter of Hisba.

[41:16] >> The Israelis say so.

[41:18] >> They want to see a Middle East which is

[41:22] under the influence of Iran.

[41:26] >> Israelis believe Hezbollah is trying to

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[41:42] Iran is the dominant power in the Gulf.

[41:45] Iran's influence in the Middle East has

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[41:48] Iranians are not Arabs. They're Persians

[41:52] and Shiites. They find a natural ally in

[41:55] Hezbollah, a radical Shiite group based

[41:58] in Lebanon. The Iranians have nurtured

[42:01] Husbollah and and helped them put all

[42:03] these rockets in place in Lebanon.

[42:06] >> For years, Iranians have tried to assert

[42:08] their leadership of the Palestinian

[42:10] cause.

[42:11] >> Iran since the revolution, since Ayati

[42:15] has highlighted the question of

[42:16] Palestine, particularly the question of

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[42:22] >> That's the danger. It may be working.

[42:25] Iran, which is not a natural ally and

[42:27] certainly not one that Arabs have held

[42:30] as a model, is finding resonance in this

[42:33] environment.

[42:35] It's also a big risk for Iran. Hezbollah

[42:38] could end up defeated or weakened. Many

[42:40] Arab governments do not want this war

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[42:44] Hezbollah and Iran in provoking it.

[42:48] Wolf.

[42:48] >> All right, Bill. Good analysis. Thank

[42:50] you very much. Bill Schneider reporting.

[42:52] Coming up, we're keeping tabs on all the

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[45:34] >> Middle East on the brink this hour with

[45:36] Hisbala's leader declaring what he calls

[45:38] open war on Israel. And in other new

[45:40] developments, Israeli jets destroyed

[45:43] Hisbala headquarters in Beirut and an

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[45:54] 25,000 US citizens from Lebanon if

[45:57] necessary.

[45:59] Moving on to some other news and

[46:01] including a glimpse into the CIA leak

[46:04] controversy from the former operative

[46:06] whose cover was blown. Valerie Pla

[46:08] Wilson spoke out today with tough words

[46:10] for the Bush administration officials.

[46:12] She's trying to hold legally responsible

[46:15] for what happened to her. Our Brian Todd

[46:17] is following all of these developments

[46:19] from the newsroom. Brian

[46:20] >> Wolf, a sweeping legal action as you

[46:22] mentioned and a dramatic public

[46:24] appearance today by the woman at the

[46:26] heart of that CIA leak scandal.

[46:29] >> 3 years to the day after a newspaper

[46:32] column revealed her classified identity,

[46:34] we hear former CIA operative Valerie Pla

[46:37] Wilson's voice for the first time.

[46:39] >> I and my former CIA colleagues trusted

[46:43] our government to protect us as we did

[46:45] our jobs. on why she's suing some of the

[46:48] most powerful people in the Bush White

[46:50] House.

[46:51] >> That a few reckless individuals within

[46:53] the current administration betrayed that

[46:56] trust has been a grave disappointment to

[46:59] every patriotic American. Wilson and her

[47:01] husband, former ambassador Joe Wilson,

[47:04] accuse Vice President Dick Cheney, his

[47:06] former top aid Lewis Scooter Libby,

[47:09] Deputy White House Chief of Staff Carl

[47:11] Rove, and 10 unnamed John Doe's of

[47:14] conspiring to destroy their careers. The

[47:16] suit claims they did this after Joe

[47:18] Wilson wrote an op-ed piece questioning

[47:21] President Bush's case for the Iraq War.

[47:23] >> I would much rather be continuing my

[47:25] career as a public servant than be a

[47:27] plaintiff in a lawsuit. Representatives

[47:29] for Cheney and Libby won't comment on

[47:31] the lawsuit. A spokesman for Rove says,

[47:34] quote, "The allegations are absolutely

[47:36] and utterly without merit." Legal

[47:38] experts say the White House will fight

[47:40] hard not to get Cheney and the others

[47:42] deposed out of concern sensitive

[47:44] information would get out. And they say

[47:47] the Wilsons have other hurdles.

[47:49] >> Public officials come with a number of

[47:52] immunities and privileges that apply to

[47:55] their official conduct. You can lose

[47:57] those if you engage in unlawful conduct

[48:00] or you act with malicious intent, but

[48:03] it's a tough thing to prove.

[48:06] Tough to prove, tough to win damages,

[48:08] even if they do prove a conspiracy,

[48:10] according to our experts. As for other

[48:12] legal matters involving these

[48:13] defendants, the Wilson's attorneys say

[48:15] the prosecutor's decision not to indict

[48:17] Carl Rove played no part in this, and

[48:20] they say they don't want to interfere in

[48:21] the criminal case against Scooter Libby.

[48:23] Wolf

[48:23] >> Brian Todd, thanks very much. You never

[48:25] know where these lawsuits are going to

[48:27] wind up? Just remember what happened to

[48:29] Bill Clinton when he faced a lawsuit as

[48:32] well. Up next, with the Middle East

[48:34] boiling over, can Americans get out of

[48:36] the hot spots if they need to. We'll

[48:38] take a closer look at the Pentagon's

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[48:42] That's coming up. And are Republicans in

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[51:43] >> Here's a look at some of the hot shots

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[51:59] barrier. Beirut, a Lebanese woman walks

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[52:09] soldier Nimrod Cohen. He was killed in

[52:11] Isbala's crossber raid in which two

[52:13] other Israeli soldiers were kidnapped.

[52:16] And on the border of Lebanon and Syria,

[52:18] a massive traffic jam as people try to

[52:21] flee Lebanon. some of today's hot shots.

[52:24] Pictures often worth a thousand words.

[52:28] Let's go to CNS Frederick Whitfield.

[52:30] She's joining us with another close look

[52:32] at some other stories making news. Fred,

[52:34] >> hello again, Wolf. UN diplomats are at

[52:37] this hour working to hammer out

[52:38] differences over a security council

[52:39] resolution on North Korean missile

[52:41] testing. The US and Japan are said to be

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[52:46] resolution calling for mandatory

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[52:52] has joined with Russia in proposing a

[52:54] rival resolution that does not include

[52:57] sanctions. Unrest in Pakistan after the

[52:59] death of a prominent Muslim cleric

[53:01] today. A suicide bomber killed the

[53:02] Shiite cleric outside his home in the

[53:05] southern city of Karach. After the

[53:07] attack, hundreds of the cleric's

[53:09] youthful supporters rioted, setting fire

[53:12] to a gas station and damaging shops and

[53:14] businesses. Authorities in Karach say

[53:16] they've deployed extra police and

[53:18] paramilitary patrols at this hour. Back

[53:20] in America now, Massachusetts Governor

[53:22] Mitt Romney is taking over an inquiry

[53:25] into a major tunnel project in the

[53:27] state. Earlier this week, a woman was

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[53:33] riding in. Since then, more than 200

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[53:40] And more legal setbacks for gay marriage

[53:42] advocates in Nebraska. A federal appeals

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[53:49] years ago. And in Tennessee, the state

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[53:53] block a ballot initiative asking voters

[53:55] to outlaw gay marriage. Wolf

[53:58] >> Fred, thank you. Still to come here in

[54:00] the situation room, the former prime

[54:02] minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu,

[54:04] on his nation's new offensive against

[54:06] Hisbala as it fights to get its captured

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[57:09] >> CNN tonight at 10. With the M East so

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[57:14] reports live from Israel as tensions

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[57:22] Eastern.

[57:26] >> Check back with Jack right now. He's got

[57:28] the Caffrey foul. Jack

[57:29] >> Wolf, a new AP Ipsis poll shows 68% of

[57:32] Americans think Congress is doing a

[57:34] lousy job. I'm surprised the numbers

[57:37] that low given the fact that both houses

[57:39] of Congress are now controlled by

[57:41] Republicans. The question is, are they

[57:43] Republicans in jeopardy of losing

[57:45] control of the Congress in November?

[57:48] Here's some of what you've written us.

[57:49] Brian in Galveston, Texas. Even though

[57:51] I'm a conservative at heart, my vote

[57:54] will be against the incumbent,

[57:56] Republican or Democrat. Andrew Pamis,

[57:58] New Jersey, Congress has surrendered its

[58:00] oversight role and has become a lap dog

[58:03] for the Bush White House. I predict the

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[58:07] actions of Bush Cheney will vote more

[58:09] for reigning in an outofc control White

[58:11] House than vote for the Democratic party

[58:13] per se. Phil says, "No, I don't believe

[58:15] the Republicans will lose control of

[58:17] Congress or the Senate. First off, I

[58:19] think your prejudice makes the polls

[58:21] come out however you want them to. And

[58:23] secondly, I think the big majority of

[58:25] people in this country know George Bush

[58:26] is really doing a good job." Scott

[58:29] writes, "The ideal situation would be if

[58:31] the Republicans and Democrats would lose

[58:34] to some commonthinking independents who

[58:36] would lead us in a muchneeded new

[58:38] direction and try to build our standing

[58:40] back up in the world." Tom, in Gastonia,

[58:42] North Carolina, the clowns that

[58:44] currently inhabit the media are worse

[58:46] than the elected clowns. I'd like to see

[58:48] a poll indicating how disgusted

[58:50] Americans are with the media. I bet the

[58:52] approval numbers would be a single

[58:54] digit. And Rob in Cullen, Louisiana,

[58:56] Jack, I hope the Republicans lose. And

[58:58] the Democrats don't win. This weekend on

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[59:24] >> Jack, thank you. And to our viewers,

[59:27] you're in the situation room where new

[59:28] pictures and information are arriving

[59:30] all the time. Standing by, CNN reporters

[59:33] across the United States and around the

[59:34] world to bring you today's top stories.

[59:37] Happening now, a vow of open war.

[59:40] Hisbala vows war against Israel, saying

[59:43] it will take the fight to Hifa and

[59:45] beyond. Israel is not backing down,

[59:48] bombing the home of Hisbala's leader and

[59:51] trying to seal off Lebanon from the

[59:52] outside world. Israel wants back two

[59:55] Israeli soldiers held captive in

[59:57] Lebanon. But Hisbala says no matter how

[60:00] long Israel attacks, it will not give

[60:02] back the soldiers. I'll speak with the

[60:04] former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin

[60:06] Netanyao at this hour and James Zagby of

[60:09] the ArabAmerican Institute about these

[60:12] escalating tensions. And it's 2 p.m. in

[60:15] California where two wildfires have

[60:17] burned 61,000 acres. Now they're on the

[60:20] verge of a merge. both of these

[60:23] wildfires. I'm Will Blitzer. You're in

[60:25] the situation room.

[60:42] We're following major new developments

[60:44] this uh today in the growing Middle East

[60:47] crisis. Among the latest, fresh Israeli

[60:50] air strikes in Lebanon, including again

[60:52] at Beirut's international airport and at

[60:55] Hzbollah's headquarters in southern

[60:57] Beirut. Shortly afterward, a defiant

[61:00] televised message from the group's

[61:02] leader pledging quote, "Open war against

[61:05] Israel." And in an exclusive interview

[61:07] with CNN, Lebanon's prime minister says

[61:10] this should be a wake-up call to address

[61:12] the Israeli Palestinian conflict once

[61:14] and for all.

[61:17] Why we are being asked to stopah but at

[61:21] the same time nobody is putting the

[61:23] necessary pressure on Israel to resolve

[61:25] the problem. I mean the problem the

[61:28] problem is causing the presence ofah

[61:31] let's get rid of the problem and will

[61:34] not won't be there. It will be a

[61:35] political a political party. President

[61:38] Bush has been working the phones talking

[61:40] to the Lebanese Prime Minister Fuat

[61:41] Seora and other leaders in the region.

[61:44] But the crisis is already shaking the

[61:47] oil markets. Crude oil is at another

[61:49] record high, settling at more than $77

[61:53] a barrel, and it hit $78 earlier in the

[61:56] day. We're covering all angles of this

[61:58] very fastmoving story with

[62:00] correspondents in all the key locations.

[62:04] CNN's Allesio Vinci is joining us uh

[62:06] from Beirut. He's watching what's

[62:08] happening there. CNN's John Voss is in

[62:11] northern Israel. Uh our White House

[62:13] correspondent Suzan Malvo is in St.

[62:16] Petersburg, Russia traveling with the

[62:18] president who's at the G8 summit. Our

[62:20] senior Pentagon correspondent Jamie

[62:22] McIntyre is looking at contingency plans

[62:24] for the US military. But let's begin in

[62:27] the Lebanese capital where Israeli air

[62:29] strikes have occurred once again today.

[62:32] Allesia Vinci has the latest from there.

[62:34] Allesia.

[62:36] >> Hello, Wolfe. Earlier this evening, we

[62:38] witnessed an extraordinary rapid

[62:40] succession of events that really

[62:41] indicates how quickly the violence here

[62:43] can escalate. First, Israeli gunship

[62:45] hitting hard in the southern outskirts

[62:47] of Beirut, specifically targeting the

[62:49] Hezbollah headquarters led by Shik

[62:53] Hassan Naza, destroying his home and

[62:56] office and his residence there. No

[62:58] casualties there reported but certainly

[63:00] heavy damage. Now moments later after

[63:03] that attack he made an audio appearance.

[63:05] The shake Nazara made an audio

[63:07] appearance saying first of all that he

[63:09] was fine. Him and his families were fine

[63:11] and then as you mentioned declared all

[63:12] at war against Israel. He called on on

[63:15] his people to resist the attacks against

[63:18] Lebanon and vowing to achieve victory.

[63:21] Here's a portion of what he said.

[63:23] >> You wanted war, an open war. It will be

[63:25] an open war.

[63:28] You want your government to do to change

[63:30] the rule of the game. Did they change?

[63:33] This game will change. Now you know who

[63:37] you're fighting with.

[63:40] At the end of the this taped message

[63:43] that was broadcast live or on tape on

[63:47] not just the Almanar television station

[63:48] that belongs to Hezbollah here in

[63:51] Lebanon but in many other television

[63:53] networks here. Uh the Shahik Nazar made

[63:56] another statement and basically saying

[63:58] that he warned that the Israeli ship

[64:00] that had hit the southern district of

[64:03] Beirut would burn and sick and sink with

[64:05] tens of sailors. And then moments later

[64:09] uh we heard some celebratory gunfire

[64:12] shooting in the air in that area of uh

[64:15] Beirut. And the IDF confirmed that one

[64:17] of its ship that is uh uh enforcing a

[64:20] naval blockade off the coast of Beirut

[64:23] had been slightly uh damaged by what

[64:26] appeared to be a rocket. Now meanwhile a

[64:28] later development here we understand

[64:30] from local television stations including

[64:32] Lebanese television station that

[64:34] according to them according to their

[64:36] sources Israel now is looking for four

[64:38] missing sailors. Uh this is an

[64:40] information that we have been unable to

[64:42] confirm either with the IDF or with our

[64:45] independent sources here in Lebanon.

[64:47] Wolf.

[64:47] >> All right, Allesio, we'll get stay in

[64:49] touch with you. Stand by. We're going to

[64:51] come back to you. Allesio Vinci joining

[64:53] us from Beirut. Let's go to northern

[64:55] Israel right now. John Voss is watching

[64:58] a very very tense situation from his

[65:00] vantage point only a few miles from the

[65:03] Lebanese border in the Israeli town of

[65:04] Naharia. John,

[65:08] >> hello Wolf. Normally, this town of Nahar

[65:09] would be buzzing at this time of the

[65:11] evening, 1:00 in the morning. It's a

[65:12] holiday town, but essentially this city,

[65:15] like so many others in northern Israel,

[65:17] has been locked down. It is tonight. It

[65:19] has been that way for most of the day

[65:21] after Hezbollah militants fired more

[65:23] than 90 kushes today. More than 300 in

[65:25] the past 48 hours. The Israeli military

[65:28] says another two Israeli civilians have

[65:31] been killed. a woman and her

[65:33] four-year-old grandson died when their

[65:35] home took a direct hit in the small

[65:37] farming village of Mount Maron. Now,

[65:39] here in in this tourist town, uh there

[65:43] have been another Kusha attacks, one in

[65:45] the morning, one in the evening. Here,

[65:47] 30 people have been wounded. And also in

[65:50] Sephed, at least another dozen people

[65:52] have been hurt. Israelis living close to

[65:54] the border, about 14 miles away, have

[65:56] now been advised to take cover in bomb

[65:59] shelters as well as safe rooms in their

[66:01] homes. And about 30 miles away from the

[66:03] border, the military is advising

[66:05] residents there that they should stay

[66:06] off the streets. They should go home,

[66:08] avoid windows and open doors. And that

[66:10] includes residents of the coastal city

[66:13] of Hifer. The Israeli military now

[66:15] saying that the two rockets which hit

[66:17] Hifer on Thursday evening were not the

[66:19] usual Kusha rockets fired by Hezbollah.

[66:22] They had a much longer range. Israeli

[66:24] officials saying those missiles were

[66:25] manufactured in Iran, but so far there

[66:28] has been no proof of that given by the

[66:30] Israelis. Wolf

[66:31] >> John Voss, I wanted you to stand by as

[66:33] well because we're going to be checking

[66:34] back with you throughout these coming

[66:37] hours. John Voss in Naharia. Meanwhile,

[66:39] the border between Gaza and Egypt is

[66:42] open again. Hamas militants used rocket

[66:45] propelled grenades to blast open a gate

[66:47] that had been locked since the start of

[66:49] the current crisis more than two weeks

[66:51] ago. CNN's Ben Weedderman, who's on the

[66:54] scene for us in Gaza, reports hundreds,

[66:56] perhaps thousands of people streaming

[66:59] back into Gaza from Egypt. We're going

[67:01] to go to him in our 700 p.m. Eastern

[67:04] hour. President Bush, meanwhile, is

[67:06] working the phones and urgent talks with

[67:08] regional leaders. He's in St.

[67:10] Petersburg, Russia right now for the G8

[67:12] summit. Let's bring in our White House

[67:13] correspondent, Suzan Malvos. He's

[67:15] traveling with the president. uh update

[67:18] our viewers, Suzanne, how the Bush White

[67:20] House is dealing with this crisis.

[67:24] >> Well, Wolf very interesting. President

[67:26] Bush was all set to put Iran and North

[67:28] Korea at the top of the G8 agenda. But

[67:30] the person who actually sets that

[67:31] agenda, the host, Vladimir Putin,

[67:33] officially announcing today that there

[67:35] is a new priority, and that is the

[67:37] Middle East crisis.

[67:40] President Bush arrived in St. Petersburg

[67:42] two days ahead of the G8 summit to have

[67:44] what aids call private and frank

[67:46] discussions with someone he calls an old

[67:48] friend, Russian President Vladimir

[67:50] Putin.

[67:55] But it's the crisis in the Middle East

[67:57] that has now taken center stage. Before

[68:00] his arrival aboard Air Force One, Mr.

[68:02] Bush called key allies in the region,

[68:04] the leaders of Egypt and Jordan, to

[68:06] press them to use their influence with

[68:08] Hezbollah to get the Israeli soldiers

[68:10] released. He also called Lebanon's Prime

[68:12] Minister Fouad Sonora to reiterate his

[68:15] belief that Israel has the right to

[68:17] protect itself against Hezbollah, but

[68:19] should try to spare the innocent and

[68:21] respect Sonora's authority.

[68:23] >> Whatever Israel does, though should

[68:24] should not weaken the Sonora government

[68:26] in Lebanon.

[68:27] >> White House officials denied that Mr.

[68:29] Bush was calling for Israel to stop its

[68:31] attacks, saying that was a matter for

[68:33] the Israeli military to decide. But Mr.

[68:36] Bush has not spoken to Israel's Prime

[68:38] Minister, Ahud. That task has been left

[68:41] to his secretary of state Condisa Rice.

[68:44] >> Um we just continue to ask that the

[68:47] Israelis exercise restraint, be

[68:49] concerned about civilian casualties, be

[68:51] concerned of course about civilian

[68:53] infrastructure and uh that's been the

[68:55] nature of our conversations.

[68:59] >> And Wolf, it is really far from clear

[69:01] whether or not the leaders at the G8

[69:02] summit are going to be able to come up

[69:03] with some sort of unified response to

[69:05] the Middle East crisis. Already you have

[69:07] a split, not surprising. Russia and

[69:09] France saying they believe Israel has

[69:11] overreacted. United States and Germany

[69:13] disagreeing. Wolf

[69:14] >> Suzan, thanks very much. Uh, on one side

[69:18] of the conflict is Israel. The other

[69:20] side right now, Hisbala in Lebanon, but

[69:22] might innocent Americans somehow be

[69:24] caught in the middle. The State

[69:26] Department is telling Americans to leave

[69:28] Lebanon if they can? Our senior Pentagon

[69:31] correspondent Jamie McIntyre has

[69:33] details. Jamie. Well, Wolf, at this

[69:35] point, the open warfare between Israel

[69:37] and Hezbollah has essentially trapped

[69:40] some 25,000 Americans in Lebanon.

[69:44] The State Department says all US

[69:45] citizens except essential embassy

[69:47] personnel should consider leaving what

[69:50] has become a war zone. The American

[69:52] embassy in Beirut has put an authorized

[69:54] departure policy in effect, but with no

[69:57] safe way out for now, most Americans are

[70:00] on their own. conditions permitting, uh,

[70:02] we have urged American citizens

[70:06] to leave, consider leaving Lebanon. But

[70:09] again, they have to take into account

[70:10] their own personal security. That's

[70:12] going to be a decision that they have

[70:13] that they have to make themselves. With

[70:15] Beirut's main airport cratered by

[70:17] Israeli bombs, the usual manner of

[70:19] evacuating Americans, chartering

[70:21] commercial aircraft is not an option.

[70:23] Although under a brief ceasefire, Israel

[70:26] allowed Lebanon to move five airliners

[70:28] to safety and also permitted the former

[70:31] Lebanese prime minister's private plane

[70:33] to take off before the runway was bombed

[70:35] again. Pentagon sources say the US

[70:38] military is considering a number of

[70:39] options if an emergency evacuation is

[70:42] ordered. The nearest US ships with

[70:44] helicopters are part of a seven ship

[70:46] task force headed by the Euoima, which

[70:49] is in the Red Sea. It would take several

[70:51] days though for it to move back through

[70:53] the Suez Canal to the Mediterranean

[70:55] because it would first have to collect

[70:56] many of its 2200 Marines who are ashore

[71:00] in Jordan on an exercise. Another option

[71:03] would be to move helicopters to the

[71:04] nearby island of Cyprus, roughly 150 mi

[71:07] from Beirut. Close enough for unrefueled

[71:10] helicopter runs back and forth. And

[71:13] Wolf, it's also possible the US may work

[71:15] out another ceasefire to be able to use

[71:17] the Beayroot International Airport given

[71:19] its close ties with Israel. But Wolfe,

[71:21] whatever the United States does, it

[71:23] won't be entirely in secret. The last

[71:25] thing they want to do is send in

[71:27] evacuation helicopters that be could be

[71:29] confused with Israeli helicopter

[71:32] gunships. Wolf.

[71:33] >> All right, Jamie, thank you very much.

[71:34] Jamie McIntyre reporting. State

[71:36] Department, by the way, has set up two

[71:38] phone numbers for American citizens in

[71:40] Lebanon or for families who have

[71:42] children there. They can get information

[71:44] on security, ways to leave and other

[71:46] matters. The overseas number is this

[71:48] 01202501444.

[71:55] Uh here in the United States, there's

[71:57] another number uh and let me read it to

[71:58] you. 888-47-47447.

[72:04] State Department says these hotlines

[72:06] concern uh trying to get people out of

[72:08] Lebanon and they are not for checking on

[72:11] people's well-being, but those are the

[72:13] numbers in case you need to know. Let's

[72:15] check in with Jack Caerty. He's in New

[72:17] York with the Caferty file. Jack,

[72:18] >> thanks. Well, a couple of things to

[72:20] think about as conditions in the Middle

[72:21] East continue to deteriorate and the

[72:23] whole situation gets a little scarier as

[72:25] we go along. Israel says the long range

[72:28] missiles fired at Hifa from Lebanon were

[72:31] made in Iran. Hezbollah guerillas have

[72:34] denied firing those two rockets at Hifa.

[72:36] But nevertheless, Israel is blaming that

[72:38] group for the attack. In the past,

[72:40] Hezbala has fired hundreds of the

[72:42] shorter range Kusha rockets at Israel.

[72:45] Meanwhile, Iran's president is warning

[72:47] Israel not to attack Syria, another

[72:49] country that has Israel is accused of

[72:51] sponsoring terrorism in the past.

[72:54] Makmoud Akmad says if Israel goes after

[72:57] Syria, it will be quote equivalent to an

[72:59] attack on the whole Islamic world

[73:01] unquote and Israel will face a crushing

[73:04] response. So here's the question. What

[73:07] does it mean if Iran is supplying

[73:09] missiles to Hezbollah? Email your

[73:11] thoughts to Caertifile at CNN.com or go

[73:14] to CNN.com/cafertyfile.

[73:17] Wolf

[73:17] >> Jack, thank you. Uh, and if you want a

[73:19] sneak preview, by the way, of Jack's

[73:21] questions, plus an early read on the

[73:23] today's political news and what's ahead

[73:24] in the situation room, sign up for our

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[73:28] cnn.com/situation

[73:31] room. Up ahead, the Middle East crisis

[73:33] about to hit home for all of us. Crude

[73:36] oil prices spiking to a record high.

[73:38] CNN's Ali Veli standing by with the

[73:40] latest on that front. Also, the former

[73:42] Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin

[73:44] Netanyao. He'll join us in the situation

[73:46] room to talk about the escalating

[73:48] violence. And we'll also hear from James

[73:50] Zagby of the ArabAmerican Institute,

[73:53] complete coverage of the Middle East

[73:54] crisis. Stay with us. You're in the

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[76:49] Welcome back. We have the latest

[76:50] developments on the escalating tensions

[76:52] in the Middle East right now. Hisba

[76:54] vowing an allout war against Israel,

[76:57] saying it will take the fight to Hifa

[77:00] and beyond. Israel is not backing down,

[77:02] bombing the home of Hzbollah's leader

[77:04] and trying to seal off Lebanon from the

[77:06] outside world. Meanwhile, Lebanon's

[77:08] prime minister today says Hisbala's

[77:10] decision to kidnap two Israeli soldiers

[77:13] was irresponsible. But the Lebanese

[77:15] prime minister also calling Israel's

[77:17] response disproportionate. The

[77:19] Associated Press reports Israel is

[77:21] saying one of its warships was hit by an

[77:23] unmanned Hisbala aircraft rigged with

[77:26] explosives. There are conflicting

[77:28] reports on the severity of the damage.

[77:30] Pentagon is drawing up plans for a

[77:32] possible evacuation of as many as 25,000

[77:35] US citizens living in Lebanon.

[77:38] Perhaps forgotten in the conflict are

[77:40] the many innocent civilians caught up in

[77:42] the crossfire. How might Israel ensure

[77:45] they are not unduly punished?

[77:49] And joining us now is the former prime

[77:51] minister of Israel, Benjamin Natanya. He

[77:53] now leads the opposition in the Knesset.

[77:56] Prime Minister, thanks very much for

[77:58] coming in on such a hectic day. Uh this

[78:00] is a a little war right now, but is it

[78:02] about to become a bigger war?

[78:05] >> Well, it has to be a successful battle

[78:08] to uh stop the rocketing of Israeli

[78:11] towns and cities by the criminaliz

[78:15] terrorist organization. Uh I think that

[78:17] if we don't stop it then Kizbala will

[78:19] arm itself with still longer range

[78:21] missiles, deadlier projectiles uh to

[78:23] wreak more havoc and more death on

[78:26] innocent civilians. And coincidentally

[78:28] it will also visiate completely Lebanon

[78:30] sovereignty. Uh Lebanon is not now a

[78:33] sovereign country. It has a state within

[78:35] a state, a criminal organization that is

[78:38] controlled and directed by two foreign

[78:40] states, Iran and Syria. uh and it's

[78:42] doing is doing whatever it pleases on

[78:44] Lebanon's soil. So destroying's

[78:48] fighting ability, which is what UN

[78:49] resolution 1559 stipulated when Israel

[78:53] left Lebanon, I think is important for

[78:55] our security and for the hopes of

[78:57] millions of Lebanese that they'll regain

[78:59] their country. Since the Lebanese

[79:00] government is uh incapable or unwilling

[79:02] to take on Hisba, as you point out right

[79:05] now, is that Israel's military objective

[79:07] right now to destroy Hisbala's military

[79:10] capability?

[79:12] >> I I think it should be and I believe it

[79:14] is. U but of course you'd have to ask

[79:16] that of the government. What we've done

[79:18] in Israel is to close ranks behind the

[79:20] government when our country is being

[79:22] attacked by these wanted savage uh

[79:25] rocket attacks. Why why punish so many

[79:29] innocent people in Lebanon? Many of whom

[79:31] may be sympathetic, maybe critical

[79:33] themselves of Hisbala's role in Lebanon.

[79:36] Why go after the innocents uh in Lebanon

[79:39] who are being punished in effect by some

[79:42] of the Israeli strikes for example on

[79:44] the Beirut International Airport?

[79:47] The Beirut International Airport uh like

[79:49] the Damascus International Airport is a

[79:51] source of uh conduit for uh weapons, for

[79:54] material, for weapons, and for other

[79:56] things that has been using as is the

[79:59] Beirut Damascus highway. These targets

[80:01] have been hit not to punish Lebanese,

[80:03] but to interdict uh capabilities. Uh you

[80:07] know, the terrorists are very clever. I

[80:08] mean, as we speak, uh rockets are being

[80:11] fired by from crowded neighborhoods. Uh

[80:14] what they're doing is targeting

[80:15] civilians in Israel and hiding behind

[80:17] civilians in Lebanon in the hope that

[80:19] they'll purchase immunity. No sane

[80:21] government would give the terrorist such

[80:23] immunity as they rocket uh our

[80:25] population. But what a responsible

[80:27] government tries to do is try to

[80:29] minimize civilian casualties as we

[80:31] target the the terrorists and this is

[80:33] being done uh again as we speak by

[80:37] America and Britain and others in uh in

[80:40] Iraq in their battle against terrorism.

[80:42] Let me interrupt for a moment and read

[80:44] to you what the president of Iran,

[80:46] Mahmud Ahmedinad, said yesterday. He

[80:48] said, "If the occupying regime of

[80:50] Jerusalem attacks Syria, it will be

[80:52] equivalent to an attack on the whole

[80:54] Islamic world and the regime, namely

[80:56] Israel, will face a crushing response.

[80:59] Do you take a threat like that from the

[81:01] Iranian leader seriously?"

[81:04] Oh, I take all his threats seriously

[81:06] because uh when a a person says that he

[81:08] is while denying the Holocaust uh is

[81:12] openly saying that he's preparing a new

[81:13] holocaust by developing atomic bombs

[81:16] which he says openly he will use against

[81:18] Israel. Yes, I take uh the rantings of

[81:22] of a person like that uh seriously, not

[81:24] because they're uh sane, but because he

[81:27] may actually mean it. So um yes I take

[81:29] Iran seriously but at the same time I

[81:31] also know that Syria harbors terrorists

[81:34] Khaled Mashal the uh controller of the

[81:38] kamas terror organization sits openly in

[81:41] Damascus and in Damascus there are

[81:45] the Syrian government itself is

[81:48] controlling and directing.

[81:50] >> So should the Israeli military go after

[81:52] targets in Syria and or Iran? I think

[81:57] what we should do is get the

[81:58] international community to press Syria

[82:00] and Iran rather than pressing Israel

[82:02] which is merely fulfilling UN

[82:04] resolutions. Israel which vacated

[82:06] Lebanon completely uh with a promise of

[82:09] a UN resolution that it will not be

[82:11] attacked from Lebanon and that Kbala

[82:13] would dismantle there is merely filling

[82:15] uh fulfilling forcibly trying to force

[82:18] fulfill the international resolution

[82:20] that Lebanon has failed to fulfill. So

[82:22] Israel, the last thing the international

[82:24] community should do is press on Israel.

[82:27] It should press on Syria and Iran for

[82:29] condoning this criminal activity in

[82:31] violation of international law and

[82:33] common sense.

[82:34] >> One final question. Uh I know you're

[82:36] supporting the position of the Israeli

[82:38] government right now. You're the leader

[82:39] of the opposition. Is this a moment that

[82:41] the LE could come back into the

[82:43] government and there should be a

[82:44] national unity government encompassing

[82:46] almost all of the major political

[82:48] parties in the Knesset? There's national

[82:51] unity right now in the mere fact that

[82:53] I'm here and talking to you and

[82:54] defending the government tells you that

[82:56] we've all closed ranks. I'm not sure

[82:58] that this translates into a political

[83:00] shift because we're not on the eve of

[83:02] the six- day war or uh the eve of the

[83:04] Omipur war. Uh this is not on that

[83:07] magnitude. There is a need to take

[83:09] forceful action. The government uh

[83:11] regrettably delayed taking this action

[83:13] for a long time and the terror forces

[83:15] were emboldened to increase their

[83:17] aggression. Uh but I think right now I

[83:20] and so many others are supporting the

[83:22] government precisely because it's doing

[83:24] late but not better late than never.

[83:26] It's doing the right thing. Uh I think

[83:28] that I can fully support this without

[83:30] having a seat around the government

[83:32] table. I can do that from my seat in the

[83:34] just as well.

[83:35] >> Benjamin Netanyahu, the former prime

[83:37] minister of Israel. Thanks very much for

[83:38] coming in.

[83:40] >> Thank you. And joining us now is James

[83:42] Zagby, the president of the ArabAmerican

[83:45] Institute, a longtime observer of this

[83:47] region with deep personal roots in the

[83:49] in Lebanon as well. You you were telling

[83:51] me you have a nephew who's sort of

[83:53] stranded in in we're in Beirut right

[83:55] now.

[83:55] >> Stuck in uh in Lebanon because the

[83:57] highway's gone, the airport's gone, and

[83:59] um he was just on a rotary fellowship to

[84:03] the American University of Beirut and

[84:05] was about to come home when uh when this

[84:07] hit.

[84:07] >> Have you heard from him?

[84:08] >> We have. We've we've spoken with them.

[84:10] Although right now it's difficult

[84:11] because you know the cell towers have

[84:12] been bombed so you can't get cell phone

[84:14] calls in easily. Uh some areas of the

[84:17] country are okay but apparently there's

[84:19] not a communications

[84:21] uh not an ease in communications right

[84:23] now.

[84:23] >> Was it wrong for Hezbollah to go across

[84:26] that line and go into Israel, kill and

[84:29] kidnap those Israeli soldiers?

[84:30] >> I think many Lebanese agree uh that it

[84:32] was wrong. Uh it was provocative and it

[84:34] was reckless. Um but I agree with the

[84:37] Lebanese prime minister that Israel's

[84:39] response to this has been wholly

[84:40] disproportionate in a form of collective

[84:42] punishment. Um uh frankly uh Lebanese

[84:45] have seen this time and time again. What

[84:48] happens is that um uh moderate forces

[84:51] end up losing out in a situation like

[84:53] this because anger uh rules the street.

[84:56] Um, at some point, uh, Israel, uh, and

[84:59] the United States, uh, have to begin to

[85:01] get it, uh, that these kinds of

[85:03] responses don't end up defeating

[85:05] extremism, they end up fueling the next

[85:07] round of extremists.

[85:09] >> What should Israel have done when this

[85:11] very provocative act occurred? How how

[85:14] should Israel have responded?

[85:15] >> Let's not forget the context in which it

[85:17] occurred. I understand that people are

[85:18] pointing the finger at Iran, but the

[85:20] timing of this, no doubt, um, had to do

[85:23] with the fact that, uh, there was the

[85:25] situation going on in Gaza and the Arab

[85:28] street throughout the Arab world is

[85:30] inflamed by what is happening in Gaza.

[85:32] And right now, we in the United States

[85:34] have forgotten about it. Our attention

[85:35] is focused to in another place.

[85:37] >> We haven't totally forgotten. We have

[85:38] Ben Weedman, our reporter there, and and

[85:40] we're watching the situation.

[85:41] >> 1.4 million people are are are under

[85:43] siege and have been under siege now for

[85:45] many, many months. uh no access or

[85:48] egress, vegetables rotting at the at the

[85:50] uh the exit points and uh and and

[85:53] medicines are in short supply etc. In

[85:56] that context, let me just interrupt both

[85:58] opportunity.

[85:59] >> In that in that context though, there

[86:00] was there were acts that those rockets

[86:02] coming into Israel from Gaza clearly a

[86:05] provocative.

[86:05] >> There's been a cycle. There are

[86:07] pathologies on all sides here. Uh there

[86:09] were assassinations of Palestinian

[86:11] leaders. There were the families that

[86:12] were killed, the one on the beach, the

[86:14] the one in the home. Um there were

[86:17] literally scores of Palestinian

[86:18] civilians killed in the period leading

[86:20] up to this as well as these Kasim

[86:23] rockets. So the cycle is there.

[86:26] The assault on Gaza is there and

[86:28] Hezbollah takes advantage of that in

[86:30] order to play to the Arab street and say

[86:32] we defend honor.

[86:33] >> Is this a Hezbollah decision in and of

[86:36] itself or as so many US officials and

[86:39] Israeli officials and other observers

[86:41] insist this is really Hisbala dirty

[86:44] doing the work of Iran which is trying

[86:46] to change the subject from the pressure

[86:48] on it to because of its nuclear program.

[86:50] >> There is no question that Iran and

[86:52] Hezbollah have close ties. There's no

[86:53] question that they're funded, no

[86:55] question that they're armed, and no

[86:57] question that to some extent there may

[86:58] be direction. But there's also a more

[87:00] immediate context here in which

[87:03] Hezbollah found uh that it could act at

[87:07] this time in the context of what was

[87:09] going on in Gaza and play to Arab

[87:12] support.

[87:12] >> So is Hamas and Hezbollah are they now

[87:15] in effect in an alliance?

[87:16] >> Well, the the alliance is the fact that

[87:20] uh both are fighting uh the same enemy.

[87:22] both are uh groups that have found

[87:25] common cause um and a common timing for

[87:29] their cause. But because they have

[87:32] defined the game doesn't mean we had to

[87:35] play. And when the president of the

[87:37] United States ends up appearing more

[87:38] like a coat holder or a cheerleader

[87:41] instead of uh someone who can both talk

[87:43] about restraint, act on restraint, and

[87:45] send a mediator who will actually begin

[87:48] to unravel this situation. We're in

[87:50] danger here of having this spin out of

[87:51] control. And let's remember precisely

[87:53] because Hezbollah and Iran are as close

[87:55] as they are. We happen to be right now

[87:57] in Iran's backyard. We have soldiers at

[88:00] risk in a very volatile region and we

[88:02] have to be careful here how we operate.

[88:04] >> Who could the president be sending to

[88:06] the region right now? There's some

[88:07] suggestion former President Bill

[88:09] Clinton, former President George Herbert

[88:12] Walker Bush. What do you think? Closer

[88:14] to home to him is James Baker, who's

[88:16] defended him and helped launch his

[88:18] presidency in 2000 to the dismay of some

[88:21] um a skilled negotiator. And let's not

[88:23] forget George Mitchell, who worked

[88:25] wonders in Ireland, produced a brilliant

[88:28] document that could have, if it had been

[88:30] listened to by this administration,

[88:32] helped restore and move us back to the

[88:34] peace process, but it wasn't. Uh I think

[88:36] that there's plenty of great people

[88:38] going around. The problem is this. If

[88:39] the president appoints, he has to fully

[88:41] empower and back up and not undercut as

[88:44] we've seen too often in the past. But if

[88:45] we don't act now, the danger is that the

[88:48] pathologies playing out on both sides

[88:50] will spin out of control. And God forbid

[88:53] if Syria and Iran are involved in some

[88:55] way by Israel and respond in kind, the

[88:59] destabilization

[89:01] that we will encounter, we'll be living

[89:03] with the consequences for a long time to

[89:05] come with 130,000 American soldiers

[89:07] trapped in the middle of this game.

[89:09] >> James Zagby, the president of the

[89:11] ArabAmerican Institute. Let's hope your

[89:13] nephew and everyone else survives this

[89:15] current escalating tense situation in

[89:18] the region. Appreciate you coming in.

[89:20] The crisis is sparking a war of words

[89:22] over at the United Nations. Our senior

[89:24] UN correspondent Richard Roth is joining

[89:26] us live with more on that. Richard,

[89:28] frustration and anger wolf here at the

[89:31] UN boiling over on the world stage.

[89:36] >> Instead of across their own borders,

[89:38] Mi's neighbors Israel and Lebanon lobbed

[89:40] accusations and denunciations over the

[89:43] Security Council table. What Israel

[89:47] is undertaking

[89:49] is an act of aggression and devastation

[89:53] aimed at bringing Lebanon to its knees

[89:56] and subverting it by any means. Having

[89:58] shown unparalleled restraint for six

[90:02] years while bearing the brunt of

[90:04] countless attacks, Israel had to respond

[90:06] to this absolutely unprovoked assault

[90:09] whose scale and depth was unprecedented

[90:12] in recent years. Lebanon appealed for

[90:15] help in stopping Israeli attacks.

[90:17] >> International community is called upon

[90:20] as represented by the security council

[90:22] to take an immediate clear decision

[90:26] calling for comprehensive immediate

[90:29] ceasefire, a lifting of the air and sea

[90:34] blockade imposed upon Lebanon and

[90:37] calling for an end of Israeli

[90:39] aggression. You know deep in your heart

[90:43] that if you could, you would be sitting

[90:46] here, right next to me right now because

[90:49] you know that we are doing the right

[90:51] thing

[90:53] and that if we succeed,

[90:55] Lebanon will be the beneficiary.

[90:58] >> The US blasted Syria and Iran for having

[91:00] a hand in the missile attacks on Israel.

[91:02] The Syrian ambassador said he was denied

[91:04] permission to respond inside the

[91:06] Security Council. The security council

[91:09] only produced a short statement

[91:11] welcoming the visit to the Middle East

[91:13] by three UN advisers sent there at the

[91:16] behest of Kofanan and Condisa Rice Wolf.

[91:19] >> Thanks very much for that. Richard Roth

[91:21] reporting for us from the United

[91:23] Nations. As Israeli forces attempt to

[91:25] cut off Beirut's roads, ports, and

[91:27] airport, people in the embattled city

[91:29] are turning to the internet to try to

[91:31] connect with the outside world. Our Abby

[91:33] Tatton is standing by with details. Abby

[91:35] >> Wolf, this is the view from the kitchen

[91:37] window of one South Beirut resident.

[91:40] Teacher Musa Bashia has been updating

[91:42] this website almost hourly in the last

[91:44] couple of days despite power outages

[91:47] that he is reporting. He said this

[91:49] morning that explosions kept us awake

[91:51] last night. He went out and recorded the

[91:54] results of those explosions today. These

[91:56] just a few hundred feet from his house.

[91:59] Other Beirut residents reporting that

[92:01] people are stockpiling food. pictures of

[92:03] a local supermarket here showing that

[92:05] the shelves are empty. But it's not just

[92:07] reports from Beirut that we are getting.

[92:10] This is a kibutz just over the border

[92:12] into Israel just a couple of miles from

[92:14] the Isra the Lebanese border there. It's

[92:16] called Kibutz Matsuba and residents

[92:19] there have been posting online the

[92:21] warnings that they're getting from the

[92:22] local TV. This one warning residents to

[92:24] get into shelters. Wol.

[92:26] >> All right, Abby, thank you very much.

[92:28] Coming up, could the crisis spread

[92:30] across the broader Middle East? We're

[92:32] going to show you some disturbing

[92:33] scenarios. Tom Foreman standing by. Stay

[92:36] with us. Plus, a leading American

[92:38] evangelical leader invited to North

[92:40] Korea. CNN's Zayn Burgie is now in South

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[94:49] The latest on the Middle East right now.

[94:50] Hisbala vowing an allout war against

[94:53] Israel. Israel though is not backing

[94:55] down by any means. Bombing the home of

[94:57] Hisbala's leader and trying to seal off

[95:00] Lebanon. Meanwhile, Lebanon's prime

[95:02] minister says Hisba's decision to kidnap

[95:04] two Israeli soldiers was irresponsible,

[95:07] but he's also calling Israel's response

[95:09] disproportionate. Lebanese officials

[95:11] tell CNN the fighting has already cost

[95:13] some 63 Lebanese lives. Meanwhile,

[95:16] Israel says one of its warships was

[95:18] damaged by an unmanned Hisbella aircraft

[95:21] rigged with explosives. And the Pentagon

[95:24] right now drawing up plans for a

[95:26] possible evacuation of some 25,000

[95:29] American citizens living in Lebanon. So,

[95:32] what happens if the current crisis

[95:34] spirals out of control? CN Tom Foreman

[95:37] has been investigating that awful

[95:39] scenario. Tom,

[95:40] >> what I'm hearing is a tremendous,

[95:42] tremendous number of widely ranging

[95:45] opinions about that. But let's start

[95:47] with the basics. If you're having

[95:48] trouble keeping up with all of this,

[95:50] let's look. We're talking about north of

[95:52] Africa. Basically, here this is the area

[95:53] that we're talking about. And here are

[95:55] the basics. This is the border. Israel's

[95:58] down here. Lebanon's up here. The

[96:00] southern part of Lebanon is largely

[96:03] controlled by Hezbollah, which is this

[96:06] internationally recognized terrorist

[96:07] group. It's been attacking Israel across

[96:09] this border for a long time. They

[96:10] kidnapped the soldiers here. And now

[96:13] Israel is just raining down upon them as

[96:16] much as they can in this attack. Take a

[96:17] look at what happened today. We had more

[96:18] attacks in southern Beirut. They

[96:20] attacked the headquarters of these

[96:22] folks. They uh hit the airport road out

[96:24] here. They hit a lot of different

[96:25] places. And they still have a blockade

[96:27] in place out here. And this is where we

[96:30] had the ship that we mentioned a moment

[96:31] ago that was attacked um apparently with

[96:34] a a drone of some sort that flew out of

[96:36] this area. They're surrounding Hezbollah

[96:38] down here and trying to contain them.

[96:40] The big question is this is an area only

[96:42] about the size of Maryland. But will

[96:44] this battle get much, much bigger?

[96:49] Israel is making its position clear?

[96:51] Every hour that Hezbollah holds on to

[96:54] the captured Israeli soldiers, Israeli

[96:56] forces will hammer Hezbollah's home base

[96:59] in Lebanon. For years, the

[97:01] internationally recognized terrorist

[97:03] group has attacked Israel from across

[97:05] the Lebanese border. Now, Israel is

[97:08] going after Hezbollah's headquarters,

[97:10] communications lines, and weapons. They

[97:13] have already demonstrated that they're

[97:15] having a pretty good level of success of

[97:18] slamming into Hezbollah and bringing

[97:20] some great wrath down on Hezbollah that

[97:22] is long overdue.

[97:24] >> But with each hour, the conflict is also

[97:26] threatening to grow. Hezbollah is

[97:29] mocking Israel's efforts to rescue the

[97:31] kidnapped soldiers.

[97:33] >> You want an open war? We will go to the

[97:36] open war and we are ready for it.

[97:40] So, how could this expand to other

[97:42] bigger countries? One theory is simple.

[97:45] Iran and Syria are longtime supporters

[97:48] of Hezbollah. If Israel expands its

[97:51] efforts to include attacks on Syria,

[97:54] that country could be drawn into the

[97:56] battle. The United States and other

[97:57] countries are already concerned about

[97:59] the possibility of regional warfare. The

[98:02] threat posed by Iran's nuclear program

[98:04] has been temporarily overshadowed, but

[98:07] it now stands accused of being the

[98:09] supplier of the missiles being used

[98:11] against Israel.

[98:14] >> So, this is just a measure of this

[98:16] unbelievable uncertainty going on over

[98:18] there right now. What we've got is a lot

[98:21] of power, a lot of people very upset in

[98:23] a very volatile part of the world. Take

[98:25] a real quick look at this if we can, if

[98:27] I can get this uh back where we want to.

[98:28] Here. Over here is where we would find

[98:31] Iran. It's not that far away.

[98:36] And this has been the big concern for

[98:38] the US. Right next door to it is where

[98:40] we have Iraq, where we have a lot of US

[98:42] troops. All the people I talked to today

[98:44] could reach no conclusion as to how all

[98:46] these forces might come together. But

[98:48] what they're saying is there are a lot

[98:49] of big powers that are very angry and

[98:52] very concerned and they're all swirling

[98:53] around each other and in this region.

[98:56] That's why people think it could expand

[98:58] even if they don't know quite how.

[99:00] >> It's so unpredictable and I've spent a

[99:02] lot of time in that part of the world.

[99:04] Totally unpredictable. Thanks very much

[99:06] for that, Tom.

[99:07] >> Coming up, oil turmoil. If the Middle

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[99:12] oil prices even higher, making that $3 a

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[101:02] we're continuing to watch the escalating

[101:04] situation in the Middle East right now.

[101:06] We're going to go back there

[101:07] momentarily. But there's some other

[101:09] important news happening here in the

[101:10] United States as well, including the

[101:12] heat that's dogging some 3,000

[101:14] firefighters working two major blazes in

[101:17] Southern California. They're simply

[101:19] burning out of control right now, and

[101:21] they're threatening to merge into one

[101:23] giant wildfire. CN Chris Lawrence is

[101:27] joining us now from the fire lines with

[101:29] the latest. Looks awful that smoke

[101:31] behind you, Chris.

[101:33] >> It does, Wolf. But there was a worst

[101:35] case scenario that this fire would move

[101:37] into a heavily populated tourist area

[101:39] surrounded by forest. Big bear officials

[101:42] now tell us that it is very very

[101:44] unlikely that it will move into Big

[101:46] Bear. Take a look at what we're dealing

[101:48] with here. This is the Sawtooth Fire

[101:49] here burning across the mountain here in

[101:52] the Morango Valley, California. People

[101:54] here have been keeping a close eye on it

[101:56] because as you said it could merge with

[101:58] another smaller fire. Officials say

[102:00] right now uh their last count it was

[102:03] within a half a mile, but they say the

[102:05] two fires may have already merged.

[102:07] There's so much smoke over the area

[102:08] where they would come together, they

[102:10] can't be sure, but it is either within a

[102:12] half a mile or it has already merged.

[102:15] Now, you can see this area is under

[102:17] mandatory evacuation. The sheriff told

[102:19] everyone living here to get out of this

[102:22] area. Right now, we are seeing the

[102:24] sheriff come down the street literally

[102:26] with a bullhorn. Uh if you can see this

[102:28] truck telling people to get out of the

[102:30] street that it's time to get out of this

[102:31] area, but a lot of people have not

[102:34] listened. We can pan over. You can see

[102:36] some of the folks here on the house

[102:37] right next to us have been just standing

[102:39] there and watching this fire burn. Uh a

[102:42] lot of the folks here tell us they feel

[102:44] the firefighters have been able to keep

[102:45] this fire on the mountain. They have

[102:47] refused to evacuate their homes even as

[102:50] the sheriff is coming by telling people

[102:52] that it is time to go. Wolf,

[102:55] >> we'll continue to watch this fire

[102:57] together with you, Chris. Thanks very

[102:59] much. Good luck to all the folks out

[103:01] there. And still to come here in the

[103:02] situation room. It's happened for a

[103:04] second day in a row, a record high for

[103:06] oil prices. If the Middle East crisis

[103:08] continues, and it looks like it's going

[103:10] to continue, at least in the short term.

[103:13] Might oil prices reach even higher

[103:15] levels, higher levels than ever seen

[103:17] before? Jack Caerty also wants to know

[103:20] this. What does it mean if Iran is

[103:22] giving missiles to Hisbala? Jack will be

[103:25] back with your email. Stay with us.

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[105:16] >> Welcome back. It's just after midnight

[105:18] uh in Beirut, Lebanon. I want to go back

[105:20] there. Our correspondent, Allesio Vinci,

[105:23] is on the scene for us. These have been

[105:25] incredibly difficult days for you and

[105:27] all of our colleagues there, but the

[105:28] people in Beirut are suffering clearly

[105:30] as well. Update our viewers on what we

[105:32] know right now. Allesia.

[105:35] >> Hello, Wolf. A quick update on that

[105:37] Israeli ship that has struck that has

[105:41] hit several targets in in the southern

[105:43] Beirut area here. We understand from the

[105:46] IDF now that contrary to earlier report

[105:49] that ship was being hit by what appeared

[105:52] to be a rocket and only slightly

[105:54] damaged. We understand now from an IDF

[105:57] spokesman that is quoted by the Harets

[105:59] newspaper in Jerusalem that that ship

[106:02] actually has received more damage than

[106:05] originally planned and that ship

[106:07] actually has been recalled and brought

[106:08] back to uh to Israel and we understand

[106:11] from that report that the ship is now on

[106:14] fire. Now, this is a ship according to

[106:16] reports here that has hit the Hezbollah

[106:18] headquarters here in southern uh Beirut

[106:22] and you remember the Hezbollah leader

[106:25] Shahik Hassan Nazallah making

[106:27] inflammatory remarks regarding that very

[106:29] specific ship saying look at your your

[106:31] window and and look at it will sink

[106:33] before your eyes and then moments later

[106:35] that that ship was hit by what believed

[106:37] to be a rocket. Now we understand it

[106:39] might have been a Hezbollah drone

[106:41] hitting that uh that ship. Wolf

[106:43] >> Allesio, thank you very much. We're

[106:45] going to continue to check back with

[106:46] you. This story not going away. His

[106:49] references to the IDF, the Israel

[106:50] Defense Forces, that's the name of the

[106:53] Israeli Army. Lou Dobs getting ready for

[106:55] his program that begins right at the top

[106:57] of the hour. He's standing by to tell us

[106:58] what he's working on. Lou,

[107:00] >> well, thank you. Coming up at 6 p.m.

[107:02] Eastern here on CNN, we'll be reporting

[107:04] all of the latest developments on

[107:06] Hzbollah's declaration of open war

[107:08] against Israel as Israel and Hzbollah

[107:11] escalate their conflict. We'll be live

[107:13] with those reports in Beirut, northern

[107:15] Israel, and at the Pentagon. The Israeli

[107:18] ambassador to the United Nations, Dan

[107:19] Gillerman, joins us. And radical

[107:21] Islamist terrorists trying to enter the

[107:23] United States could be receiving help

[107:26] from the government of Hugo Chavez in

[107:28] Venezuela. will have that special

[107:30] report. And communities all across this

[107:32] country so fed up with the federal

[107:34] government's failure to stop illegal

[107:36] immigration, they are taking matters

[107:38] into their own hands. We'll be talking

[107:40] with the mayor of of Hazelton,

[107:42] Pennsylvania, who has successfully put

[107:45] together the strongest legislation and

[107:47] ordinances in the country. We hope

[107:49] you'll be with us at the top of the hour

[107:51] here on CNN for that and a great deal

[107:53] more. Wolf, back to you.

[107:54] >> Thank you very much, Lou. We'll be

[107:56] watching. Let's check in on the price of

[107:58] oil right now. CNN's Ally Veli is in New

[108:01] York with the bottom line. How bad is

[108:03] it, Ally?

[108:04] >> Well, it's pretty bad, uh, Wolf. We

[108:06] never really want to be talking about

[108:07] money when all this stuff is going on.

[108:09] But the reality is what's going on in

[108:10] the other side of the world if it

[108:11] doesn't have some personal connection to

[108:12] you. It's pretty soon going to have one.

[108:14] That's the new uh, settling price of oil

[108:16] in New York, $77.3. It's the highest

[108:18] that's ever been exchanged for a barrel

[108:20] of oil. Now, of course, taking inflation

[108:22] into account and you go back to the 80s,

[108:24] oil would have to be around $90 to be an

[108:26] all-time high. One thing to remember,

[108:27] Wolf, is despite everything that's going

[108:29] on in the Middle East today, there's no

[108:31] less uh oil production in the world.

[108:33] This is the fear that it could be,

[108:35] particularly if Iran gets dragged

[108:37] further into this matter and cuts off a

[108:39] lot of the oil supply. So, we are

[108:40] looking at a very high price for oil.

[108:41] We've talked to some experts who say you

[108:43] will see this at the gas pump within a

[108:44] few days, 8 to 12 cents higher probably.

[108:46] We're looking at markets that got

[108:47] affected by this, too. The Dow down

[108:49] almost 107 points to 10,739.

[108:52] The Nasdaq off 16 to 20037. Wolf

[108:56] >> Ally, thank you very much for that.

[108:58] Coming up, more on the crisis in the

[108:59] Middle East. Also, Arzane Verie is right

[109:02] now in South Korea tracking a story

[109:04] involving the author of the best-selling

[109:06] book, The Purpose Live Life, and his

[109:09] plans to visit North Korea. We'll update

[109:11] you on what's going on on that front.

[109:13] And in our 700 p.m. Eastern hour,

[109:15] there's a new chapter in the Valerie

[109:17] Plame affair. The audited CIA officer is

[109:19] speaking out about what happened and her

[109:21] new lawsuit. Stay with us.

[109:26] >> Too often political correctness is all

[109:28] about controlling language. We have to

[109:30] tell it like it is.

[109:31] >> Lou Dobs tonight. CNN coming up next.

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[112:32] >> Wolf, it's off for now. Pastor Warren

[112:35] was invited by North Korea at a

[112:37] politically delicate time between

[112:39] Pyongyang and Washington, but at the

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[112:45] Evangelical Pastor Rick Warren's trip to

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[112:52] church leaders. His planned trip to

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[112:56] bigger news, more controversial, and

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[113:01] North Korea test fired seven missiles

[113:04] over a week ago, rattled its uneasy

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[113:15] Dr. Warren's plans off track. His

[113:18] spokesperson told CNN they were informed

[113:21] that the planning meeting scheduled for

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[113:25] postponed, perhaps to be rescheduled

[113:27] later in the week. He went on to say the

[113:30] invitation still stands for Dr. Warren

[113:32] to preach in Pyongyang next year. But

[113:35] with North Korea, nothing is ever

[113:37] guaranteed.

[113:38] For weeks, the author of the

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[113:44] just peace, and a chance to preach.

[113:50] Significant because the isolated country

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[114:00] The only worship openly embraced is the

[114:02] adoration of the country's leader, Kim

[114:04] Jong-, and his late father, Kiml Sun.

[114:08] North Korea has a history of engagement

[114:10] with American religious leaders. The

[114:12] Reverend Billy Graham was the first

[114:14] American to preach there since the

[114:15] country was divided in 1945.

[114:18] The Reverend Son Myang was also there.

[114:22] The North Koreans have hosted the most

[114:24] unlikely of guests.

[114:30] Roger Clinton, former President Bill

[114:32] Clinton's brother, strutted his stuff at

[114:34] a rock concert in Pyongyang.

[114:38] Regional experts say Warren's invitation

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[115:01] >> Zayn Vie reporting. Thank you very much.

[115:03] Shenzay's going to have a series of

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[117:56] >> Israel says the long range missiles that

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[118:00] made in Iran. Hezbollah guerillas have

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[118:05] nevertheless for the attack. The

[118:07] question is, what does it mean if Iran

[118:09] is supplying missiles to Hezbollah Mark?

[118:11] In Oklahoma City, it means the US,

[118:13] Israel, and all non-Muslim nations

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[118:27] throw at Israel. Katie in Baton Rouge,

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[118:42] innocent people. Matt in Dallas, Jack,

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[118:52] have no desire for peace. John in

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[118:58] ahead with a massive response against

[119:00] the Hamas Hezbollah terrorists and Syria

[119:03] and Iran, the terrorist states that pull

[119:05] their strings. It's the trigger event we

[119:07] should use to wipe out radical Islam.

[119:10] David in Wimberly, Texas, it means we

[119:12] screwed up big time by neutralizing the

[119:14] counterbalance against Iran, which has

[119:17] always been Iraq. The real sponsors of

[119:19] terrorism were always in Thrron, not

[119:22] Baghdad. Ian in Toronto. The rockets

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[119:26] bombs that Israel drops are made in the

[119:28] US. So shut up. And finally, if you

[119:31] didn't see your email here, you can go

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[119:38] Wolf.

[119:38] >> And we'll have a lot more in 1 hour,

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[119:43] situation room weekday afternoons from 4

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[119:50] then, thanks very much for joining us.

[119:52] Let's go to New York. Lou Dobs tonight

[119:54] starts right now. L's there. Lou,

[119:56] >> thank you Wol. Tonight, the radical

[119:58] Islamist group Hzbala declares open war

[120:01] on Israel. As Israel and Hezbollah

[120:03] escalate their rocket and missile

[120:05] barges, the Israeli ambassador to the

[120:07] United Nations, Dan Gilmer joins us. And

[120:10] the United States is preparing plans to

[120:12] evacuate tens of thousands of Americans

[120:14] from Lebanon. The USS Wujima and other

[120:17] warships on standby. We'll have that

[120:20] special report here tonight.

[120:27] >> This is Lou Dos Tonight. News, debate,

[120:30] and opinion for Friday, July 14th, live

[120:33] in New York. Lou Dobs.

[120:36] >> Good evening everybody. Israel and the

[120:38] radical Islamist terrorist group Hisbala

[120:40] tonight are at war. The leader of Hzbala

[120:43] today declared open war against Israel.

[120:46] The Israeli Prime Minister, Ahoud Omar,

[120:49] said that Israel will not stop

[120:50] bombarding Lebanon until Hezbollah is

[120:53] disarmed. At least 12 Israelis have been

[120:56] killed in the past 3 days. More than 60

[120:58] Lebanese have been killed. The United

[121:01] States is preparing tonight to evacuate

[121:03] up to 25,000 Americans from Lebanon.

[121:06] Seven US warships are already in the

[121:09] region. Allete Oveni reports from Beirut

[121:12] on Israel's tightening blockade on

[121:14] Lebanon. John Voss reports from northern

[121:16] Israel on the escalating Hezbollah

[121:18] rocket attacks on Israeli border towns.

[121:21] And Jamie McIntyre reports from the

[121:23] Pentagon on the military's preparations

[121:25] for a possible evacuation of American

[121:27] citizens from Lebanon. We turn first to

[121:30] Allesio Vinci. Allesio

[121:34] >> Lou, extra extraordinary series of

[121:36] events here in the last few hours in

[121:38] Beirut. First, the Israeli gunship

[121:40] enforcing a blocket off the coast of

[121:43] Beirut, hitting hard at the Hezbollah

[121:45] headquarters in the southern part of

[121:48] Beirut and the um

[121:52] yeah

[121:56] destroying destroying the home office of

[121:58] the militia group leader. No casualties

[121:59] there there but heavy damage. Moments

[122:02] later, the Hezbollah leader, Shik Hassan

[122:04] Nazullah, made an audio tape appearance

[122:07] declaring all out war against Israel,

[122:09] called on the people to resist Israeli

[122:11] attacks and vowing to achieve uh

[122:14] victory. And then very at the very end

[122:15] of that videotape, the Shahik actually

[122:18] called on his people to look at the ship

[122:19] that had just attacked the Hezbollah

[122:22] headquarters and basically said, "It

[122:23] will burn and sink before your very

[122:25] eyes." And moments later, the IDF

[122:27] confirming that one of its ship had been

[122:29] has been hit by what appeared to be

[122:31] initially a uh a rocket and slightly

[122:34] damaged that ship. Now, we understand

[122:36] from the IDF that that ship actually has

[122:38] been heavily damaged and and is on its

[122:40] way back to Jerusalem. In the meantime,

[122:43] into Israel. In the meantime, all this

[122:44] is happening while this morning again,

[122:46] the Israeli forces pounded the uh

[122:48] international airport here in Beirut.

[122:50] First, they allowed one of the runways

[122:52] that had been destroyed the day before

[122:53] to be patched up. Five Middle Eastern uh

[122:57] MAA aircraft

[123:00] airliners belonging to the national

[123:03] airline here were allowed to leave and

[123:05] after that the Israeli forces pounded

[123:07] again that same runway that had been

[123:09] repaired including the uh parking lot

[123:12] nearby. So Israel really on an allout

[123:14] attempt here to completely isolate

[123:17] Lebanon from the air the sea and the

[123:18] landlioe

[123:22] we appreciate it. We'll be going back

[123:24] for further reports uh on this

[123:26] escalating and widening conflict.

[123:28] Radical Islamist terrorists today fired

[123:30] more than 50 rockets at communities

[123:32] across northern Israel. Two more

[123:34] Israelis were killed in those attacks

[123:36] more than 200,000

[123:38] Israelis living near the border tonight

[123:40] are bracing for more attacks. John Vos

[123:43] reports from one Israeli community just

[123:45] 10 miles from the Israel Lebanon border.

[123:47] John

[123:49] >> Lou, it is eerily quiet here tonight

[123:51] with many residents taking cover in bomb

[123:54] shelters and other safe rooms in their

[123:56] homes. The Israeli military now says

[123:58] Hezbollah has fired more than 90 Kusha

[124:01] rockets today. More than 300 in the past

[124:04] 48 hours. Today another two Israeli

[124:06] civilians died. A woman and her grandson

[124:09] were killed when their house took a

[124:11] direct hit from a Kusha rocket. Here in

[124:14] Naharia, there have been two rounds of

[124:16] Kusha attacks. Hezbollah seems to be

[124:18] sticking to a pattern. Attacks in the

[124:20] early morning and then again in the

[124:22] early evening. At least 30 people have

[124:24] been wounded here. At least a dozen more

[124:27] have been hurt in the town of Sped along

[124:29] the Israel Lebanon border. A warning for

[124:31] Israeli residents living within 14 miles

[124:34] of Lebanon to stay inside bomb shelters

[124:37] and safe rooms. and also for residents

[124:39] 30 miles away, including those who live

[124:42] in the major port city of Hifur, a

[124:44] warning from the military to stay off

[124:46] the streets and to stay indoors. There

[124:48] is also growing concern among Israeli

[124:50] military officials that Hezbollah may

[124:52] have long range missiles. The two

[124:55] rockets which hit hyper on Thursday

[124:57] evening, according to the the Israeli

[125:00] military, not typical KU Kushas. They

[125:03] have a much longer range. And once

[125:04] again, quoting Israeli military

[125:06] officials, those two rockets were made

[125:08] in Iran. Lou,

[125:10] >> John, thank you very much. John Vos from

[125:12] the northern uh uh border with Lebanon.

[125:16] Israel tonight is also maintaining a

[125:18] tight blockade of Gaza. Israeli troops

[125:20] have destroyed key transportation

[125:22] facilities in Gaza in an effort to

[125:24] secure the release of a kidnapped

[125:26] Israeli soldier. Israel has also closed

[125:29] key crossing points into Gaza. Today,

[125:31] Palestinians blow a hole in a border

[125:33] fence with rocket propelled grenades and

[125:35] hundreds of Palestinians immediately

[125:38] crossed into Gaza from Egypt. Ben

[125:40] Weedman reports from Gaza on the

[125:42] showdown between Israel and the

[125:44] Palestinians radical Islamist

[125:46] government.

[125:49] >> The bullhorn is blaring in Gaza. Hamas

[125:52] is on the march. The radical Islamic

[125:55] group, which has held one Israeli

[125:57] soldier for almost three weeks,

[125:59] organized rallies all over Gaza in

[126:01] support of Hezbollah, which is holding

[126:03] two Israeli soldiers.

[126:06] Hisbala's yellow flag flies next to

[126:08] Hamas's green banner.

[126:12] "God willing, everything will come down

[126:14] on the heads of the Jews, and we'll

[126:15] defeat them," says Hamas supporter Abu

[126:18] Mujahed.

[126:19] Little chance of that happening. But the

[126:21] fighting in Lebanon has ignited passion

[126:24] among the militants and their supporters

[126:26] for a regional war against Israel.

[126:29] Gaza's misery, it appears, loves

[126:32] company.

[126:35] Addressing the crowd, Hamas spokesman

[126:37] Mushir al Masidi called on Arab and

[126:39] Islamic leaders to get off the sidelines

[126:42] and join the fight against Israel or

[126:44] face the anger of their people.

[126:49] But while Gaza's streets are noisy, its

[126:51] front lines have gone quiet. And Israel

[126:54] seems to have suspended most of its

[126:56] military operations in Gaza, if only for

[126:59] now. Shortly after dawn, residents in

[127:02] central Gaza returned to areas evacuated

[127:05] by withdrawing Israeli forces. They left

[127:07] behind destroyed roads and damaged

[127:10] houses.

[127:13] And early Friday, Hamas's military wing

[127:16] fired six Casam rockets on Israel. No

[127:19] injuries or damage were reported.

[127:23] >> Hamas's bark and bullhorns may be louder

[127:27] than its bite. Ben Weedman, CNN, Gaza.

[127:33] Agency plans to evacuate nearly 30,000

[127:35] Americans from Lebanon. One option is to

[127:38] send an amphibious task force led by the

[127:40] USS Wujima to the Lebanese coast. Jimmy

[127:44] McIntyre has the report from the

[127:45] Pentagon.

[127:48] The open warfare between Israel and

[127:50] Hezbollah has essentially trapped an

[127:52] estimated 25,000 Americans in Lebanon.

[127:55] The State Department says all US

[127:57] citizens except essential embassy

[127:59] personnel should consider leaving what

[128:01] has become a war zone. The American

[128:03] embassy in Beirut has put an authorized

[128:05] departure policy in effect, but with no

[128:08] safe way out for now, most Americans are

[128:11] on their own.

[128:12] >> Conditions permitting, uh we have uh

[128:15] urged American citizens

[128:18] to leave, consider leaving Lebanon. But

[128:20] again, they have to take into account

[128:21] their own personal security. That's

[128:23] going to be a decision that they have

[128:24] that they have to make themselves. With

[128:26] Beirut's main airport cratered by

[128:28] Israeli bombs, the usual manner of

[128:30] evacuating Americans, chartering

[128:32] commercial aircraft is not an option.

[128:34] Although under a brief ceasefire, Israel

[128:37] allowed Lebanon to move five airliners

[128:39] to safety and also permitted the former

[128:42] Lebanese prime minister's private plane

[128:44] to take off before the runway was bombed

[128:46] again. Pentagon sources say the US

[128:49] military is considering a number of

[128:50] options if an emergency evacuation is

[128:53] ordered. The nearest US ships with

[128:55] helicopters are part of a seven ship

[128:57] task force headed by the Euoima, which

[129:00] is in the Red Sea. It would take several

[129:02] days though for it to move back through

[129:04] the Suez Canal to the Mediterranean

[129:06] because it would first have to collect

[129:08] many of its 2200 Marines who are ashore

[129:11] in Jordan on an exercise. Another option

[129:14] would be to move helicopters to the

[129:15] nearby island of Cyprus, roughly 150 mi

[129:19] from Beirut. close enough for unrefueled

[129:21] helicopter runs back and forth.

[129:24] >> And given the close relationship between

[129:26] the US military and Israel, it's also

[129:28] possible the US could work out another

[129:30] brief ceasefire uh to use um uh to use

[129:34] the Beirut International Airport after

[129:36] some emergency repairs. But whatever the

[129:38] US does, it will not do in secret. The

[129:41] last thing the US military wants to do

[129:42] is send in evacuation helicopters that

[129:45] then draw fire because they're confused

[129:47] with Israeli helicopter gunships. Lou

[129:50] Jamie, thank you. Jamie McIntyre from

[129:52] the Pentagon. The continuing escalating

[129:55] violence in the Middle East today,

[129:56] leading to another increase in world

[129:58] crude oil prices. Crude oil rose 33,

[130:01] closing at a record high, $77.33

[130:05] a barrel. The price of oil has risen 26%

[130:08] so far this year. We'll have much more

[130:11] on the Middle East crisis ahead. Hisbala

[130:13] declares war on Israel. President Bush

[130:15] holds emergency talks in Russia. We'll

[130:18] have a report for you from St.

[130:19] Petersburg. At the United Nations calls

[130:21] for an immediate Israeli ceasefire,

[130:24] rebuffed. Our nation's closest allies

[130:26] are split on how to respond to this war.

[130:29] We'll be going live to the United

[130:30] Nations. And Israel says it won't stop

[130:32] its bombardment of Lebanon until Hezbala

[130:35] is disarmed. The Israeli ambassador to

[130:37] the United Nations joins us here

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[133:04] President Bush tonight is in St.

[133:05] Petersburg, Russia for the G8 meeting.

[133:08] The G8 countries are deeply divided over

[133:10] how to respond to the war in the Middle

[133:12] East. President Bush today made a series

[133:14] of telephone calls to Middle Eastern

[133:16] leaders. Suzan Malvo reports from St.

[133:19] Petersburg.

[133:21] >> President Bush arrived in St. Petersburg

[133:23] two days ahead of the G8 summit to have

[133:26] what aids call private and frank

[133:28] discussions with someone he calls an old

[133:30] friend, Russian President Vladimir

[133:32] Putin.

[133:36] But it's the crisis in the Middle East

[133:38] that has now taken center stage. Before

[133:41] his arrival aboard Air Force One, Mr.

[133:43] Bush called key allies in the region,

[133:45] the leaders of Egypt and Jordan, to

[133:47] press them to use their influence with

[133:49] Hezbollah to get the Israeli soldiers

[133:51] released. He also called Lebanon's Prime

[133:53] Minister Fouad Sonora to reiterate his

[133:56] belief that Israel has the right to

[133:58] protect itself against Hezbollah, but

[134:00] should try to spare the innocent and

[134:02] respect Sonora's authority.

[134:04] >> Whatever Israel does though should

[134:06] should not weaken the Sonora government

[134:07] in Lebanon. White House officials denied

[134:10] that Mr. Bush was calling for Israel to

[134:12] stop its attacks, saying that was a

[134:14] matter for the Israeli military to

[134:16] decide. But Mr. Bush has not spoken to

[134:19] Israel's prime minister, Ahoud Mer. That

[134:21] task has been left to his secretary of

[134:23] state, Condisa Rice. Um, we just

[134:27] continue to ask that the Israelis

[134:29] exercise restraint, be concerned about

[134:31] civilian casualties, be concerned of

[134:33] course about civilian infrastructure,

[134:35] and uh, that's been the nature of our

[134:37] conversations.

[134:38] >> Rice also called several regional

[134:39] leaders and the UN's Kofan. While other

[134:42] US officials in the region are making

[134:44] personal contacts, former Middle East

[134:46] envoy Dennis Ross says the US is being

[134:48] reduced to sitting on the sidelines.

[134:51] While others say the administration

[134:52] needs to better engage on all sides.

[134:55] >> Our peace process policy is in shambles.

[134:57] The road map of peace that President

[134:59] Bush articulated uh really doesn't exist

[135:02] anymore. We don't talk to Hamas. We

[135:04] don't talk to Hisbala. So to uh empower

[135:07] a few people to run around and try to

[135:09] make uh some progress without uh

[135:12] deciding uh what basis on which they're

[135:14] going to operate I think would be

[135:16] foolhardy.

[135:17] >> It's far from clear whether or not the

[135:18] G8 leaders at the summit will come up

[135:20] with a unified response to the Middle

[135:22] East crisis. Already there is a split

[135:24] with Russia and France saying they

[135:26] believe Israel has overreacted while the

[135:28] United States and Germany disagree.

[135:31] Suzan Malvo, CNN, St. Petersburg,

[135:33] Russia. The UN Security Council is also

[135:37] divided over this conflict. Countries

[135:38] that support Hzbala are trying to stop

[135:41] Israel's bombardment of Lebanon. Israel

[135:43] and its supporters are strongly

[135:45] defending Israel's right to defend

[135:46] itself against radical Islamist

[135:49] terrorism. Richard Roth reports from the

[135:51] United Nations.

[135:54] >> Instead of across their own borders, M

[135:56] East neighbors Israel and Lebanon lobbed

[135:58] accusations and denunciations over the

[136:00] Security Council table.

[136:02] >> What Israel?

[136:04] is undertaking

[136:07] is an act of aggression and devastation

[136:10] aimed at bringing Lebanon to its knees

[136:13] and subverting it by any means. Having

[136:16] shown unparalleled restraint for six

[136:19] years while bearing the brunt of

[136:21] countless attacks, Israel had to respond

[136:24] to this absolutely unprovoked assault

[136:27] whose scale and depth was unprecedented

[136:30] in recent years. Lebanon appealed for

[136:33] help in stopping Israeli attacks.

[136:35] >> International community is called upon

[136:37] as represented by the security council

[136:39] to take an immediate clear decision

[136:44] calling for comprehensive immediate

[136:47] ceasefire, a lifting of the air and sea

[136:52] blockade imposed upon Lebanon and

[136:54] calling for an end of Israeli

[136:57] aggression. You know deep in your heart

[137:01] that if you could, you would be sitting

[137:03] here, right next to me right now because

[137:06] you know that we are doing the right

[137:09] thing

[137:10] and that if we succeed, Lebanon will be

[137:14] the beneficiary.

[137:15] >> The US blasted Syria and Iran for having

[137:18] a hand in the missile attacks on Israel.

[137:20] The Syrian ambassador said he was denied

[137:22] permission to respond inside the

[137:24] security council. And the council

[137:26] president, the ambassador from France

[137:28] said it was too soon, Lou, to consider

[137:30] any ceasefire resolution. Lou,

[137:33] >> Richard, thank you. Richard Roth from

[137:34] the United Nations. Later here, I'll be

[137:36] talking with Israel's UN ambassador, Dan

[137:39] Gilerman. Also ahead tonight, three of

[137:41] the nation's best political analysts

[137:43] join us to discuss this worsening uh

[137:45] escalating conflict in the Middle East.

[137:47] and the government of Hugo, Chavez, and

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[137:58] we'll have complete coverage of Hzbala's

[138:00] declaration of war and what is an

[138:02] escalating crisis in the Middle East

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[140:51] >> Israel's ambassador to the United

[140:53] Nations, Dan Gilman, today said the

[140:55] Husbala terrorist group is an instrument

[140:57] of Syria and Iran. The ambassador said

[141:01] Hezbollah together with Hamas, Syria,

[141:03] and Iran constitute a new axis of

[141:06] terror. Israel today intensified its

[141:08] attacks on targets in Lebanon. One of

[141:10] those targets, the home of the leader of

[141:12] Hisbala. Meanwhile, Hzbala fired more

[141:15] rockets at towns in northern Israel. At

[141:17] least two Israelis, a woman and a child,

[141:19] were killed. Ambassador Dan Gilerman

[141:22] joins me here now. Good to have you with

[141:24] us.

[141:24] >> Good to be here, Lou. Ambassador, first

[141:27] uh there are reports that uh the

[141:29] missiles that were fired uh the two uh

[141:33] Kusha rockets with longer range than

[141:36] anyone had expected were manufactured in

[141:38] Iran. Uh can you confirm that here

[141:41] tonight?

[141:41] >> Yes, I can. We know for a fact that many

[141:44] of the long range missiles which

[141:47] thebalah has amassed over the last few

[141:49] years and the Kbalah has amassed over

[141:51] 10,000 rockets. that has fired 600 of

[141:54] them in the last 48 hours alone. Many of

[141:57] those were supplied by Iran, made in

[141:59] Iran. Iran funds the to the sum of $100

[142:03] million a year. This conflict is

[142:07] widening. Hezbollah has declared open

[142:09] war uh was the language on Israel. Where

[142:13] does this end?

[142:16] It ends when our soldiers are returned

[142:18] home. It ends when the rocketing of

[142:21] Israeli towns and villages stops. And

[142:24] hopefully it ends with Lebanon becoming

[142:26] a free country again after living under

[142:28] the strangle hold of terror both from

[142:31] tyrants in the north like Syria and

[142:34] terrorists from the south like the

[142:37] Lebanese people have been living under

[142:39] oppression for over 30 years. They

[142:42] deserve to be free as well. Uh the

[142:44] Lebanese prime minister uh Fouad Senora

[142:48] basically

[142:50] implied that Hezbollah had made a

[142:53] mistake. uh implied further that he

[142:56] could go no further than the statements

[142:58] he made uh which were critical of

[143:00] Hisbala and the tactics it was employing

[143:04] is his constraint and his off obvious

[143:07] discomfort

[143:09] a sign of just how intimidated the

[143:12] Lebanese are. Well, wouldn't you be

[143:14] intimidated if a word against the

[143:17] Syrians would blow your car up and uh

[143:20] blow you up to blitherines as they did

[143:22] to Rafi Khiri and to many of their

[143:23] opponents? Of course, they're

[143:25] intimidated. Syria regards Lebanon as

[143:27] southern Syria. Syria is still

[143:29] threatening Lebanon. The Lebanese are in

[143:31] fear both of Syria and of theaha. But I

[143:34] must say that over the last few hours,

[143:36] we've heard some brave statements from

[143:38] very courageous Lebanese, including

[143:40] parliamentarians and ministers. And I

[143:42] actually pointed out to my Lebanese

[143:44] colleague at the security council today

[143:46] that if he could, he would probably join

[143:48] those brave words which were crying out

[143:50] for the brink of the abbis and that war

[143:53] torn country and would be sitting next

[143:55] to me making exactly the same statement

[143:57] because he knows that what we're doing

[143:59] is the right thing and would actually

[144:01] benefit Lebanon in the long run.

[144:04] >> Hisbala, radical Islamist terrorism, a

[144:06] global war against radical Islamist

[144:08] terrorism. Is there any other end but

[144:12] conflict in this confrontation?

[144:15] >> Well, I very much hope so. I think that

[144:17] the world needs to mobilize in this war.

[144:19] This is no longer just a war against

[144:20] terror. This is, as you pointed out,

[144:23] Lou, a war against extreme

[144:25] fundamentalist Islamic terrorism. You

[144:27] know, while it may be politically

[144:28] incorrect and maybe even untrue to say

[144:30] that all Muslims are terrorists, it

[144:33] happens to be very true that nearly all

[144:35] terrorists are Muslim. So, this is not

[144:38] just Israel's war. This is the world's

[144:40] war. We are fighting it. We on the front

[144:42] line. But I can sense and I could even

[144:44] sense it at the security council today

[144:46] that the war the world understands that

[144:49] we are fighting its war. There are some

[144:51] who may find it in Congress. Ambassador

[144:54] uh that the United States government uh

[144:56] called uh Hazar of Egypt uh talk to

[145:01] other leaders in the region. When the

[145:04] number of deaths in Iraq are greater,

[145:06] the insurgency is widespread and

[145:09] obviously well supported both by Iran

[145:12] and Syria there as well. Does this

[145:15] conflict have to be resolved with Syria

[145:18] and Iran as the principal targets?

[145:22] There's no doubt that Sio and Iran are

[145:23] the principal targets. Hamas and

[145:25] thebalah are just the fingers on the

[145:29] bloody arms, the bloodstained arms of

[145:32] Iran and the twisted minds of Iran and

[145:36] and Syria. I mean, there's the president

[145:38] of Iran denying the Holocaust while

[145:40] preparing the next one and trying to

[145:42] amass nuclear weapons. The first thing

[145:44] those weapons will do, those dirty

[145:47] bombs, the nuc and weapons of mass

[145:49] destruction, is find their way their way

[145:52] back to Lebanon, back to the arms in the

[145:54] hands of the kamas and spread around the

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[146:00] pandemic ever.

[146:02] >> Israel tonight will accept nothing less

[146:04] than disarmament of Hezbollah before it

[146:07] ends its attacks.

[146:10] Israel tonight will accept nothing less

[146:12] than the safe return of its soldiers and

[146:14] the stopping of the shelling of its

[146:17] cities and towns. The disarming ofah is

[146:20] something the rest of the world has

[146:22] demanded for a long time. Security

[146:24] Council resolutions 1559 and 1680 have

[146:27] demanded that. It's the Lebanese

[146:30] government that has to exert its

[146:31] sovereignty over the whole of Lebanon

[146:33] and deploy its forces also in the south.

[146:35] We will do everything we can to allow it

[146:37] to do so. Ambassador Gilman, good to

[146:40] have you with us.

[146:40] >> Very good to have to be here. Thank you,

[146:42] D.

[146:42] >> Coming up next, much more of our

[146:44] coverage on this worsening conflict in

[146:46] the Middle East as the leader of Hisbala

[146:48] declares open war on Israel. Three of

[146:51] the nation's sharpest political analysts

[146:53] join us here to assess the events. And a

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[149:38] >> Isbala has declared war on Israel. The

[149:41] conflict tonight is widening. Joining me

[149:43] now to assess the events, former Reagan

[149:45] White House political director Ed

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[149:53] Hank, let me turn to you first. This is

[149:56] uh a reaction uh that some are saying uh

[149:59] friends of Hezbollah uh that is an

[150:02] overreaction on the part of Israel. Your

[150:04] assessment?

[150:05] >> The real enemy here is Iran. The real

[150:07] enemy is they are the people funding

[150:09] Hezbollah. what the Israelis do is

[150:11] impact will impact directly on the

[150:13] security of the United States of

[150:14] America.

[150:15] >> Is the United States be constrained in

[150:18] its options here in your opinion,

[150:20] Michael, because of the of the war in

[150:23] Iraq and the political mood in this

[150:25] country toward the Middle East?

[150:28] >> No. Well, so far I think the president

[150:29] has said the right thing, which is to

[150:31] basically say Israel has a right to

[150:32] defend itself. I mean, I think that is

[150:34] the clear statement of American

[150:36] principle here. and it's not one, it

[150:38] would seem so simple, but it's not being

[150:39] one that's shared around the world. So,

[150:41] it's important that America say that.

[150:43] Uh, after that, I think the president

[150:45] does have limited influence in the

[150:47] region. Certainly, we're no longer

[150:49] considered a broker, uh, honest or

[150:51] otherwise. So, I think that we're

[150:52] clearly on Israel's side, as we should

[150:54] be, and the rest of the world is going

[150:56] to have to figure its own way out how to

[150:58] deal with that. Germany, Japan, the

[151:00] United Kingdom siding, of course with

[151:02] Israel along with the United States, but

[151:04] Russia, China, a a host of major

[151:08] nations, uh, calling for ceasefire and

[151:11] obviously greater friends of Hzbala,

[151:13] radical Islamist terrorists, uh, than

[151:16] Israel.

[151:16] >> The important thing in this debate is

[151:19] the Congress and the president are all

[151:21] on the same side. Israel is our friend.

[151:23] It's a democracy that we've stood behind

[151:25] before. uh as much of a tinder box as

[151:27] this is, you're you're not going to have

[151:29] the partisan disputes that you're having

[151:31] on the other parts of the war. And so I

[151:32] think the president has to lead, has to

[151:34] do the right thing. And and even though

[151:36] our options may be somewhat limited by

[151:38] by Iraq involvement, uh uh we cannot

[151:41] forget uh our friends. Uh is anyone else

[151:44] struck by the fact that this

[151:47] administration is calling uh several

[151:49] leaders in the region uh to deal with

[151:52] this crisis but that we have not

[151:55] insisted upon aggressive vital support

[151:59] from Egypt, Saudi Arabia, uh Jordan in

[152:03] the war in Iraq? Can we continue this

[152:06] kind of uh uh lapsed uh nonstrategy in

[152:11] our dealings with the Middle East? very

[152:13] difficult to do over time. But the need

[152:15] for oil and the fact that we do not have

[152:17] a long-term energy policy that would

[152:19] make us oil makes us much more efficient

[152:22] and reduce our our dependence on foreign

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[152:30] us much more unlikely to take any strong

[152:32] gestures.

[152:33] >> We're watching world oil prices

[152:34] skyrocket. families in this country,

[152:37] working men and women are being hammered

[152:39] because we do not have in part because

[152:42] we do not have a reasoned uh in

[152:45] innovative energy policy our our

[152:48] strategy uh in part because we are

[152:50] permitting uh the Middle East and OPEC

[152:53] to drive prices and we can talk about

[152:55] speculators in the world oil market.

[152:57] Let's say it very clearly what it is. Is

[152:59] it time for the United States to insist

[153:03] on the support of those 22 Arab nations

[153:06] that are at the center of this conflict

[153:09] even though the absolute epicenter is

[153:12] Iraq?

[153:13] >> Uh Lou, I think it's probably not the

[153:15] right time for that. I think that right

[153:16] now they are all intimidated by the

[153:19] Islamic fanatics in their own countries.

[153:21] I think what is clearly now in America's

[153:23] interest, what we must do is find other

[153:26] sources of uh fuels. We have to be

[153:28] serious about that without question.

[153:29] Right. And I think this is during a war,

[153:32] we're not likely to get Egypt to stand

[153:34] up bravely. I think that those countries

[153:36] are all threatened from within.

[153:37] >> Uh they're threatened from within.

[153:39] >> But the United States, Western

[153:41] civilization is clearly threatened by

[153:43] radical Islamist terrorists. uh and to

[153:46] see uh uh Fouad Senora, the prime

[153:49] minister of Lebanon uh bravely speaking

[153:52] but still constrained by fear of Syria

[153:56] itself and Hisbala uh and Iran is should

[154:00] awaken every person in this world

[154:03] watching these events.

[154:05] >> There's there's no question it's it's

[154:07] time that we get very aggressive on

[154:09] whatever the strategy may be. uh we

[154:12] can't be held hostage uh by people we've

[154:14] protected for a long period of time and

[154:16] I'm not talking about the Israelis

[154:17] talking about the Saudis and everybody

[154:18] else and we if terrorism is here the

[154:21] rest of my life and my child's life

[154:23] terrorism is going to be a part of our

[154:25] existence unfortunately and I think that

[154:27] we basically have to decide who our

[154:29] friends are we have to develop an

[154:30] independent energy policy it may mean

[154:33] Americans making some very severe

[154:35] sacrifices beyond paying $3 a gallon for

[154:37] gasoline but at the end of the day if we

[154:39] don't take and be very strategic about

[154:41] this and put a 10-year plan together,

[154:43] uh, we're going to basically be caught

[154:45] just as we were 20 years ago.

[154:47] >> Let let me posit this possibility that

[154:50] it has been an an enormous mistake of US

[154:53] foreign policy to continue the long war

[154:57] uh, and to permit the Middle Eastern

[154:59] conflict uh, to exist for more than half

[155:02] a century between Israel and

[155:05] Palestinians. that the that the military

[155:07] strategy and our national security

[155:09] policy to permit our military to engage

[155:12] in long wars, including which they now

[155:15] admit Iraq, is an entirely wrong

[155:18] approach for the world's only

[155:19] superpower, and that we have to come to

[155:21] new terms to deal with this enemy,

[155:24] radical Islam. The world has to believe

[155:27] that there's a problem. The Europeans

[155:29] are asleep. They don't believe it. They

[155:30] need to believe it because the rockets

[155:32] that the Iranians may or may not have at

[155:34] their availability with nuclear weapons

[155:36] potentially can be sent just as sure as

[155:38] the Tel Aviv as they can be to the

[155:39] center of Europe. That's the problem.

[155:41] >> Well, and I think what's going on right

[155:42] now with with Hezbollah and and with the

[155:45] Iranians may actually uh work to

[155:47] convince more Americans of the danger of

[155:50] Islamic terrorism. I think that

[155:51] particularly the Democratic party is

[155:53] kind of asleep on this and doesn't know

[155:54] what to do about it. Hasn't figured out

[155:56] its own course. And so I think this kind

[155:58] of event where in fact Israel is is the

[156:00] canary in the coal mine. Israel is doing

[156:02] the dirty work of taking these groups on

[156:04] may this may convince more Americans

[156:06] that we must all stand up against this

[156:08] group.

[156:09] >> And Republican leadership in both the

[156:13] Congress and this White House uh sent

[156:16] troops, American troops into Iraq

[156:19] knowing full well Iran and Syria were

[156:21] supporting terrorism globally, radical

[156:23] Islamist terrorism. Uh did we go after

[156:26] the wrong country in your opinion?

[156:28] >> I personally have always thought we went

[156:29] after the wrong country. I always

[156:30] thought there were far greater potential

[156:32] uh in in in Iran. Uh there's a younger

[156:34] movement there. I thought I thought they

[156:36] were the greater threat. Uh everything

[156:38] we've read since we started the war. Uh

[156:41] Saddam wasn't the threat. Saddam was

[156:43] more worried about internal stuff. And I

[156:45] think I think we're now at a position

[156:46] where uh uh we have a very serious uh

[156:49] enemy there who is who doesn't feel

[156:51] threatened by us.

[156:52] >> You get the last word. Gilman said what

[156:54] he was just here a moment ago that Iran

[156:55] is spending $100 million per year to

[156:57] subsidize Hezbollah. You want to cut off

[156:59] the the head of the of the beast, you

[157:00] cut out the oil weapon and the hundred

[157:02] billion dollars won't be there. Right.

[157:04] And to put that into uh some context,

[157:06] the United States spending about a

[157:07] hundred billion dollars to carry out a

[157:09] war against an insurgency in a nation of

[157:12] 25 people Iraq.

[157:15] >> Thank you very much.

[157:16] >> Thank you, Ed Rollins, Michael Goodwin,

[157:18] Hank Shankoff. Up next, radical Islamist

[157:21] terrorists trying to enter the United

[157:22] States could be receiving help from the

[157:24] government of Hugo Chavez in Venezuela.

[157:26] We'll have that special report. And

[157:28] Hazelton, Pennsylvania Mayor Lou Barleta

[157:31] joins us. His town's crackdown on

[157:33] employers and landlords, hiring and

[157:36] housing illegal aliens, setting the

[157:37] standard nationwide. Stay with us.

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[160:00] >> The United States is warning tonight

[160:01] that Venezuela is now actively fueling

[160:04] this nation's illegal immigration crisis

[160:07] with the help of Fidel Castro's Cuba.

[160:09] Venezuela's counterfeit document

[160:11] industry could also be helping potential

[160:13] radical Islamist terrorists gain entry

[160:16] into this country. Bill Tucker reports.

[160:20] Terrorist groups like al-Qaeda, Hamas,

[160:22] and Hezbollah may be no further away

[160:25] than 1,400 miles from Florida with a

[160:28] front door to America open in Venezuela.

[160:31] In no uncertain terms, the State

[160:33] Department made it clear to Congress. It

[160:36] considers the increasing discovery and

[160:38] growing use of fraudulent documents

[160:40] bearing the state seal of Venezuela to

[160:42] be a serious threat to the United

[160:44] States. I would be willing to bet that

[160:47] just about anybody in this room except

[160:49] for me could probably obtain a

[160:51] Venezuelan passport, a legitimate

[160:54] Venezuelan passport

[160:56] uh within a short period of time in

[160:59] Venezuela.

[161:00] >> The implications were obvious to the

[161:02] committee's chairman. And let me just

[161:04] make the observation that news reports

[161:07] reflect that thousands thousands of

[161:11] Venezuelan identity documents are being

[161:13] distributed to foreigners from Middle

[161:15] Eastern nations including Syria,

[161:18] Pakistan, Egypt, and Lebanon. This is

[161:21] certainly not in the best interest of

[161:23] the United States.

[161:24] >> In the opinion of those concerned about

[161:26] security, this is a problem that will

[161:29] not go away until passports are made

[161:31] more secure. We have these threats all

[161:33] over the world in different ways with

[161:36] passports, with travel documents. We

[161:38] have not had a worldwide effort as of

[161:40] yet to go after the issue head on. And

[161:44] until we do, we will continue to have

[161:47] serious vulnerabilities.

[161:49] >> Neither the State Department nor the

[161:50] Department of Homeland Security will

[161:52] comment on the numbers of fraudulent

[161:54] documents they have discovered.

[161:57] Officials so far are also unwilling to

[161:59] say that the document fraud has the

[162:01] official blessing of Venezuelan

[162:02] President Hugo Chavez. But they do note

[162:05] with admitted concern that Venezuela has

[162:07] signed a contract turning over the

[162:09] office that issues those documents, the

[162:11] identity cards and the passports Lou to

[162:14] Cuba.

[162:16] >> Communist Cuba.

[162:17] >> Communist Cuba.

[162:18] >> Thank you very much, Bill Tucker.

[162:19] Appreciate it. Coming up next here, a

[162:21] look at your thoughts about my interview

[162:22] last night with Laorazza's CEO Janet

[162:25] Margia. Communities all across the

[162:27] nation so fed up with the federal

[162:28] government's failure to stop illegal

[162:30] immigration. They are legislating on

[162:33] their own. The city of Hazelton,

[162:34] Pennsylvania, leading the way, the mayor

[162:36] of Hazelton, Lou Barleta, is our guest

[162:39] next. Stay with us.

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[165:00] Tonight, illegal aliens are intensifying

[165:02] their attacks on new local ordinances

[165:04] that punish employers and landlords for

[165:07] hiring and housing illegal aliens. And

[165:09] the Senate's so-called comprehensive

[165:11] immigration reform bill once again being

[165:14] exposed as an allout assault on this

[165:16] nation's middle class and a sham. Lisa

[165:20] Sylvester tonight reports on a provision

[165:21] in the Senate Amnesty Bill that could

[165:23] force employers to pay guest workers a

[165:26] higher wage than US citizens. Kenny

[165:29] Pilgrim reports tonight as illegal

[165:31] aliens and their supporters protest the

[165:33] tough new illegal alien crackdown in

[165:35] Hazelton, Pennsylvania. We begin with

[165:37] Lisa Sylvester in Washington. Lisa,

[165:40] >> look. The Senate immigration bill was so

[165:41] massive that senators are only now

[165:43] beginning to get a full understanding of

[165:45] the legislation. There are provisions

[165:47] that were included that some Republicans

[165:49] find downright appalling.

[165:54] US construction employees working under

[165:56] a federal contract are guaranteed wages

[165:59] significantly higher than the minimum

[166:01] wage. These so-called prevailing wage

[166:03] rates are insured by what's known as the

[166:05] Davis Bacon Act. The Senate's

[166:07] immigration bill extends those

[166:09] protections to foreign laborers under a

[166:11] guest worker program. But it went a step

[166:14] further. It also guaranteed the

[166:15] prevailing wage to foreign workers even

[166:18] on private construction projects and in

[166:20] other professions. a benefit American

[166:23] workers do not have. The result, a

[166:26] system where foreign temporary workers

[166:28] could be paid a lot more than American

[166:31] workers.

[166:31] >> If a foreign worker on an immigrant

[166:34] permit were working on that job, they'd

[166:36] have to be paid $3027. Yet, an American

[166:39] citizen working for the same company

[166:41] would not. They might be paid $10 or $15

[166:44] or minimum wage for that matter. The

[166:47] provision was added as an amendment,

[166:49] ironically aimed at protecting job

[166:51] security of Americans.

[166:53] >> Immigrants, guest workers, illegals,

[166:55] what have you, could come in and work

[166:56] for less and undercut natives. This was

[166:59] a way of trying to deal with that. So,

[167:00] you can sort of see the thinking behind

[167:02] it. The problem is, of course, that then

[167:05] you get an outcome that doesn't seem to

[167:06] make any sense.

[167:08] >> Critics also point to the process. The

[167:10] Senate bill and its attachments are

[167:12] nearly 800 pages. Yet the full Senate

[167:14] devoted only 10 days for debate.

[167:17] >> A lot of things flew under the radar,

[167:19] but the brilliance of our system of

[167:21] government is it's takes a long time to

[167:23] get this done. And as people can read

[167:25] and pull back the the layers of the

[167:27] onion, if you will, they'll find some of

[167:29] these things.

[167:30] >> The Republican Policy Committee has

[167:32] highlighted this provision as one more

[167:34] reason why the Senate immigration bill

[167:36] should be defeated. Or at the very

[167:38] least, critics say the Senate bill

[167:40] should be rewritten with an emphasis on

[167:41] border security first. Senator Isacson

[167:44] today called on the White House to send

[167:46] an emergency supplemental to Congress to

[167:48] get additional money for border

[167:49] security. He added, "Everyone knows it

[167:52] is an emergency and needs to be done."

[167:54] Lou,

[167:55] >> it's just unbelievable who came up with

[167:57] the uh bright idea to do that. This was

[168:00] originally an amendment by uh Senator

[168:02] Barack Obama and as I said that he

[168:04] originally wanted this to be a job

[168:06] security amendment for Americans, but

[168:08] you know the road to hell is often paid

[168:09] with the best intentions. So,

[168:11] >> and and the Senate would send everyone

[168:13] in this country, every citizen on

[168:15] straight to hell if they had their way.

[168:17] They didn't read the legislation that

[168:20] they wrote. And this and it just keeps

[168:22] coming up creating the requirement to

[168:24] consult with the government of Mexico

[168:25] before building a fence. I mean, it's

[168:27] just one thing after another. If the

[168:30] Heritage Foundation doesn't get involved

[168:32] in this, the Senate would have approved

[168:34] a 100 million immigrants into this

[168:36] country in addition to what we have uh o

[168:39] over the next 20 years. I mean, they

[168:41] don't even know what they're doing.

[168:43] >> Lou, I'm I'm sure there will be more

[168:44] surprises, too, as the weeks go on.

[168:46] >> I'm sure you're going to share them with

[168:47] us here, Lisa. Thank you very much, Lisa

[168:50] Sylvester. Tonight, the US Senate is

[168:52] proving once again it isn't too serious

[168:54] about our border security. Just three

[168:56] months ago, the Senate agreed to build

[168:58] 370 mi of new fence along our border

[169:01] with Mexico. Yesterday, it voted against

[169:03] releasing$1.8 billion dollars to begin

[169:06] construction. This is the way your

[169:08] Senate works. The amendment to fund the

[169:10] new fencing introduced by Senator Jeff

[169:12] Sessions. It was defeated by a vote of

[169:15] 83-6.

[169:17] 34 senators who voted in favor of new

[169:19] border fences in May voted against

[169:22] funding them in yesterday's vote.

[169:24] Senator Sessions introduced a second

[169:26] amendment that would have made $85

[169:28] million available to hire 800 new

[169:30] immigration investigators. Senate killed

[169:33] that amendment as well. Now we have an

[169:35] idea of what the Senate means and this

[169:37] White House means when it says

[169:39] comprehensive. We all get that. Mr.

[169:42] President, Senator Fris, thank you very

[169:45] much. Illegal aliens and their

[169:46] supporters vowing to fight Hazelton,

[169:48] Pennsylvania's tough new illegal

[169:50] immigration ordinance signed into law

[169:52] today. Tensions in Hazelton were so high

[169:55] during last night's city council vote

[169:57] that police were out in force and Mayor

[169:58] Lou Barleta wore a bulletproof vest.

[170:01] Kenny Pilgrim reports.

[170:08] >> A divided and heated crowd outside the

[170:10] city hall in Hazelton. The city council

[170:13] passed an ordinance with harsh penalties

[170:15] for hiring or renting property to

[170:18] illegal aliens. Flag waving, chanting,

[170:20] and singing. God bless America.

[170:25] >> Illegal alien rights groups also

[170:26] gathered. The city council passed the

[170:29] measure 4 to one.

[170:31] >> The ordinance imposes strict fines of

[170:33] $1,000 per person per day to landlords

[170:37] not holding occupancy permits which

[170:39] prove a legal status of the renter. A

[170:42] 5-year ban on doing business with the

[170:43] city if you are found to employ an

[170:45] illegal alien. And a 10-year ban on

[170:48] those committing a second offense. The

[170:50] measure also declared English as the

[170:51] official language of the city.

[170:54] Mayor Lou Barleta received prolonged

[170:56] applause as he walked into the council

[170:58] meeting. He says he received 8,000

[171:02] emails from across the country in

[171:04] support of his approach. He defended his

[171:07] intentions, saying illegal aliens drain

[171:09] the city budget and have committed

[171:11] violent crimes. Over the past month or

[171:13] so, I have been accused of being racist,

[171:17] intolerant, and unfair.

[171:20] But let me repeat what I have been

[171:22] saying all along. Illegal is illegal.

[171:28] We do not care where they come from. We

[171:29] do not care what language they speak.

[171:32] But an illegal alien is not welcome in

[171:34] Hazelton.

[171:35] >> Some immigrant rights groups are livid.

[171:37] >> We will never convert ourselves into

[171:40] Anglo. We will acculturize.

[171:43] We will learn the language. We will

[171:46] learn the laws. We will follow the laws.

[171:50] But we will never assimilate. Protesters

[171:52] outside threaten legal action.

[171:54] >> The sad thing about it is that this city

[171:58] cannot afford the lawsuit that's going

[171:59] to come against them.

[172:00] >> Ed Rodriguez's father came to the United

[172:03] States legally in 1909. He supports the

[172:06] mayor. I'm not against people coming in

[172:08] this country, but to come in this

[172:10] country legally, not illegally.

[172:12] >> This former National Guardsman wants a

[172:14] safer town.

[172:15] >> A lot of vandalism in the city and

[172:17] gangs.

[172:19] >> Yes,

[172:20] something had to be done.

[172:22] >> Today, the mayor signed the measure into

[172:24] law. Now, the law will take effect in 60

[172:27] days. On a local level, the action is

[172:30] fast. The measure was first proposed

[172:32] only one month ago by the mayor. Lou,

[172:34] >> Mayor Lou Barleta moves quickly. Thank

[172:37] you very much, Katy Pilgrim. That brings

[172:38] us to the subject of our poll tonight.

[172:40] Do you believe your community should

[172:41] follow the example of Hazelton,

[172:42] Pennsylvania in cracking down on those

[172:44] who hire and house illegal aliens? Yes

[172:46] or no? Please cast your vote at

[172:48] ludobs.com. The results here later in

[172:50] the broadcast. Hazelton Mayor Lou

[172:52] Barleta joins me now. Good to have you

[172:54] with us, Mr. Mayor.

[172:56] >> Thanks, Lou. Glad to be here today.

[172:58] >> Uh, I thought it was interesting your

[173:00] opening speech. You said that you have

[173:02] been accused of racism, but what you're

[173:04] doing is protecting a community uh that

[173:07] has been overwhelmed. Uh what do most of

[173:10] the residents in Hazelton feel about

[173:12] this new ordinance?

[173:15] >> Well, obviously they're very supportive,

[173:16] Lou. Uh and that's what I was elected to

[173:18] do to defend the people, all the people

[173:21] here in the city of Hazelton. And that's

[173:23] the legal residents that have a right uh

[173:25] to uh to the quality of life that uh

[173:28] they have enjoyed here for so many

[173:30] years.

[173:31] >> I want to uh if I may share a sound

[173:34] bites. Uh Anna Aras, the president of

[173:37] the Hazelton Area Latino Association uh

[173:40] strongly opposed of course to the

[173:41] audience uh ordinance. She said this, if

[173:44] we could hear that please.

[173:46] >> To me this is very discriminatory.

[173:49] This is very bigot and racist crime

[173:55] is not committed by undocumented people

[173:57] in Hazelton.

[173:59] Is committed by criminals.

[174:02] The mere fact that someone is an

[174:05] undocumented does not turn anyone into a

[174:08] criminal.

[174:09] >> Mr. Mayor, what's your response?

[174:11] >> I'm very disappointed in Anna and Dr.

[174:14] Lopez uh who who said that they will

[174:16] never become Angalo. And I'm not asking

[174:18] them to to become Anglo. I'm asking them

[174:20] to become Americans. Uh you know, we had

[174:23] a 29year-old as as reported who was shot

[174:26] in the head. Four illegal aliens. A

[174:28] 14-year-old shooting a gun at the Pine

[174:29] Street playground. Illegal alien. And

[174:32] today, Lou, right before I came on, we

[174:34] arrested four more for selling drugs on

[174:36] that very same playground. And our

[174:38] detectives are now are spending hours in

[174:40] trying to find out if one of these

[174:41] individuals are also illegal. I've had

[174:43] enough. Uh the tax dollars that the

[174:45] people here in Hazelton pay to us should

[174:48] be used on them and there will be law

[174:49] and order back in the city of Hazelton.

[174:52] >> Thank you very much. We appreciate it,

[174:54] Mr. Mayor. And uh we wish you all the

[174:56] very best.

[174:57] >> And coming up at the top of the hour

[174:58] here on CNN, the situation room with

[175:00] Wolf Blitz or Wolf.

[175:01] >> Thanks very much, Lou. We're following

[175:03] breaking news out of the Middle East,

[175:05] the new Israeli missile strike in Gaza.

[175:07] Plus, Hisbala's vow of allout war

[175:09] against Israel as His Bala promises to

[175:12] take the fight to Hifa and beyond.

[175:14] Israel continues its strikes in Lebanon.

[175:16] Meanwhile, Israel is fighting on another

[175:18] front against Palestinian militants in

[175:20] Gaza. Our reporters are tracking all the

[175:23] angles throughout the Middle East and

[175:25] I'll speak one-on-one with the former

[175:26] Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin

[175:28] Netanyahu and James Zagby of the

[175:30] ArabAmerican Institute. Lots of new

[175:32] developments coming up this hour. Luke,

[175:34] >> well, thank you very much. Look forward

[175:36] to it. Still ahead, the results of our

[175:37] poll. A look at some of your thoughts,

[175:39] in particular on the National Council of

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[178:02] >> Mayor Barleta was talking about a number

[178:04] of the people in Hazelton uh

[178:07] Pennsylvania calling him a racist for uh

[178:10] uh for actually putting together the

[178:12] ordinance that was passed last night uh

[178:14] cracking down on illegal immigration.

[178:17] Uh, these are protesters outside Time

[178:19] Warner down with Lou Do's immigrant

[178:22] basher. In point of fact, I'm

[178:24] pro-immigrant, calling for more legal

[178:27] immigration. I am very much opposed to

[178:30] illegal immigration. Uh, these uh these

[178:33] folks waving signs and uh protests um

[178:37] about 30 of them uh outside the the the

[178:42] May 1st coalition they're calling

[178:44] themselves. And uh we just wanted to be

[178:46] sure that uh freedom of speech and

[178:47] assembly was respected on this broadcast

[178:49] as we try always. The results of our

[178:52] poll tonight, 96% of you say your

[178:54] community should follow the example of

[178:56] Hazelton, Pennsylvania, and cracking

[178:58] down on those who hire and house illegal

[179:01] aliens. 96%.

[179:03] A look now at some more of your

[179:05] thoughts, Hank in South Carolina. Hey

[179:06] Lou, my daughter just got married and

[179:08] went to the Social Security office to

[179:10] have her card changed to her married

[179:12] name. She couldn't do it because she

[179:14] didn't have her parents' social security

[179:15] numbers. However, an employer came in

[179:18] with eight Mexican workers and they were

[179:20] issued a card without a problem. What's

[179:22] up with that? And Daisy in California,

[179:25] can you please stop inviting the LaZa

[179:27] representatives to appear on the show?

[179:29] If I wanted to hear a whole lot of

[179:30] nonsense, I would listen to the

[179:32] president. Marcelo in Illinois, please

[179:34] advise Ms. Margia that comprehensive is

[179:37] code for amnesty and citizenship only

[179:40] slightly delayed. Send us your thoughts

[179:42] at ludoms.com. We thank you for doing so

[179:44] and we thank you for being with us here

[179:46] tonight. For all of us, have a great

[179:48] weekend. Thanks for watching. Good night

[179:49] from New York. The situation room begins