Zapier Co-Founder on AI Agents and the Path to AGI | Mike Knoop (Zapier)
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[0:00] I think there's like two kind of broad
[0:02] categories of automation one is API
[0:05] based Automation and then there's
[0:06] another type of automation that is
[0:08] what's called like robotic process
[0:10] automation is the industry name for RPA
[0:13] it's basically keyboard and mouse
[0:14] automation if you want to think about
[0:15] them and they have tra they have like
[0:16] pros and cons uh the API based
[0:18] automation this is what zappier does
[0:20] it's very permission oriented right you
[0:22] have to go get API Keys um but it's also
[0:24] way more reliable the API space is much
[0:27] smaller so it's simpler to create
[0:28] automations over and this is app without
[0:31] any AI to date or was able to sort of
[0:33] get as many users as we did the the
[0:35] downsides of it are that the API is
[0:37] limited um and this is where RPA kind of
[0:39] like gets you know P exciting just due
[0:41] to the sort of nature of the technology
[0:43] without any AI it tends to be very hard
[0:45] to set up because you have to like
[0:46] literally like you know oh follow my
[0:48] mouse and keyboard and copy this
[0:50] sequence of patterns and so I think
[0:51] that's why generally like zapier and the
[0:53] API base has sort of won the day so far
[0:56] now importantly I've sort of described
[0:58] the world without AI I do think that
[1:00] like this RPA based sort of future is a
[1:03] much better one if we can figure out how
[1:05] to get it to work because you get
[1:07] anything that a sort of human could do
[1:08] with a given piece of software my belief
[1:10] today is that we need weak forms of AGI
[1:13] in order to get um the reliability and
[1:16] the setup ease of use high enough on
[1:19] let's call it the RPA style