Wake Up Live W/ Christopher DeSimone Ep. 430 - Mark Van Buren

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[0:57] Uh, the crew is this this this this

[1:00] place is like Santa's workshop in

[1:03] December. Uh, Shay and Tony, both in

[1:06] their, you know, early 20s, were here

[1:08] before I was. Well, that needs to happen

[1:10] anyway. But we we we we got to go this

[1:13] this we got a remote tomorrow at the

[1:15] Morirana pumpkin patch. Um, I got to

[1:18] start crocheting little pumpkin uh

[1:21] microphone cozies. It's It's a thing.

[1:25] It's a thing. I want to thank uh Shelly

[1:28] and Ted for filling in for me uh

[1:29] yesterday. It worked out great. Went up

[1:32] to Phoenix and had some meetings and

[1:34] then had uh dinner with my son and Dave

[1:38] Slavven and then we went uh to the Beat

[1:41] the Music of King Crimson concert at

[1:43] Celebrity Theater which was amazing.

[1:47] Amazing.

[1:50] Um, and then, uh, David worked out some

[1:53] backstage passes,

[1:56] so I got to geek out with a couple of my

[1:59] guys, which was fun. As my son said as

[2:01] he was following me around talking to

[2:03] these guys, he goes, "It was like

[2:04] watching a walking talking uh, wakeup

[2:07] show, but you were geeking out with your

[2:09] progressive rock guys." So, I said,

[2:11] "I'll I'll take that." So, Tony Leven

[2:14] was great., Adrien Belaloo was amazing,

[2:16] and also Terry Bozio, the drummer. I

[2:18] didn't get to talk to Steve Vi. We kind

[2:21] of did the yo, but he was busy with a

[2:24] bunch of other people on the other side

[2:25] of the little room we were in. So, and

[2:27] it was 11 o'clock and my son had to go

[2:29] to work the next day. So, we're like,

[2:30] but it was nice staying at his place

[2:32] instead of doing the I've done the drive

[2:34] down the Tucson after

[2:37] uh after the after a show in Phoenix.

[2:39] And I know a bunch of you have. So, uh

[2:43] you know, D Simone falls asleep by the

[2:44] time he gets to Eloy.

[2:47] No gratzi. No, no gratzi. So, um,

[2:51] anyway, Shelley and Ted were great. Uh,

[2:53] I watched the interview with Hassam. I

[2:56] watched part of David's. And then I

[2:57] watched a little bit of John that I had

[2:59] to get going. But um I did have I did

[3:02] have coffee long coffee with David on

[3:05] Wednesday

[3:07] um at the old um what the old Chompies

[3:10] on Shay and we had a good discussion

[3:14] about upcoming elections debrief on

[3:16] stuff. It was it was very very good. So

[3:20] thank you again for everyone who helped

[3:22] out and uh it was a good show. Mark will

[3:24] be here in a little bit. aerial combat

[3:26] movies.

[3:28] And we got a lot of stuff to cover

[3:30] today. I don't know if we're going to

[3:31] get to it all. Um, good morning to Big

[3:33] Dave, Mona, motherucker, Billy Beard,

[3:36] Murf, and Holden. Uh, no wind at Raccoon

[3:40] Ranch. Cloudy 67. Good morning to Jamie.

[3:44] Uh, I forgot to take down my stupid

[3:46] windchime this morning, so that's what

[3:47] woke me up at 3:55 this morning. So,

[3:52] it happens. It happens. Remember Dave's

[3:54] show is coming on after me, followed by

[3:56] Bob Elliot. Pat, good morning. Pat

[3:59] Hirsch, good morning. Um, I got to get

[4:02] into before Mark gets here and we

[4:04] lighten our load with stuff here a

[4:07] little bit.

[4:08] 425

[4:11] 425

[4:13] 425

[4:16] That is the Puma County expenditure

[4:18] limit thing.

[4:21] And it has been fascinating to watch the

[4:24] yes side on this. And I'm going to tell

[4:26] you why it's fascinating

[4:29] because they have no real spokesperson

[4:32] other than Taxosaurus Rex. Oh, Damn it.

[4:36] I forgot that. I So we we went to a

[4:42] Rex's last town series of town halls he

[4:45] ever did in his life. And I'm I'm tell

[4:48] and we were very respectful, but he he

[4:50] crumbled under questioning on property

[4:52] taxes and I'm sure he went I am never

[4:55] doing that again. Uh let's see. Tax uh

[5:00] taxosaurus

[5:03] rex. I got to find the picture. That was

[5:06] that was one of my that was one of my

[5:07] best homemade signs. Oh, there it is.

[5:11] Thank god I got to get this to shape.

[5:14] Sh, I'm gonna send this to you and then

[5:16] I just want you to kind of split screen

[5:19] me in this picture if you can. Okay,

[5:20] please for this segment. Uh, Shay Shay

[5:26] Shay

[5:27] Shay. Uh, this is one of my best This is

[5:31] one of my best homemade p uh artwork.

[5:34] I've done some good ones.

[5:36] This one's

[5:38] This one's pretty hot. So, um,

[5:43] so for some reason, Taxosaurus Rex is

[5:46] the is the only person out there talking

[5:50] about yes vote. They can't even find a

[5:53] stoogge to do it. But you know what

[5:55] we're going to do? Of course,

[5:58] look, then we got to get to the campaign

[6:00] finance report,

[6:02] which is

[6:07] super hot.

[6:10] super super super hot. So

[6:14] this thing

[6:18] is um

[6:21] move Puma County forward. Oh, that's

[6:24] beautiful. Shay, this is Let's Let's get

[6:26] that beautiful taxosaurus Rex. Look at

[6:29] him crushing fixed income seniors there

[6:31] with his with his paws.

[6:34] More tax money. He He loves it.

[6:38] Feed it with a shovel. It's a poor tax.

[6:48] Don't give me movies yet. Give me movies

[6:50] when he's on. Uh, Bobby Watson, Patrick,

[6:54] morning. Saw a lot of video of the beat

[6:56] concert. It was awesome, Patrick. It was

[6:59] awesome. Dr. Neil 59. Visibility under

[7:02] mile. You could I could see driving down

[7:04] um aa the the the dust is out there my

[7:08] friend. So if you're dust sensitive

[7:11] be ready. Be ready. Now let's get to the

[7:17] campaign finance reports. So there's no

[7:19] ch there's no um there's like no

[7:23] spokesperson chairperson, right?

[7:28] And then the campaign treasurer is some

[7:31] lady. She doesn't Janet Marquott.

[7:35] Okay.

[7:37] And Janet,

[7:41] I think, is part of the group that's

[7:44] spending the money, I think. Let's see.

[7:46] I want to make sure I got this right.

[7:48] Which I always uh Oh, she was the W Oh,

[7:52] sorry. Y So, YWCA,

[7:55] she's an Arizona listister. YWCA

[7:59] director for 25 years.

[8:03] So, Arizona list is the um kill every

[8:07] unborn baby you can kind of place.

[8:12] So, let's see what what's what's Janet?

[8:14] Let me get Janet real quick. Uh uh work

[8:17] for racial justice.

[8:20] Um create she created a hate crimes task

[8:23] force.

[8:26] She joined Fred Duval's campaign staff

[8:28] to lead uh his campaign efforts.

[8:33] Let's see. She's um

[8:38] of course on the board of Planned

[8:40] Parenthood Advocates for Arizona

[8:44] for this amazing Oh, she was the Arizona

[8:47] list like woman of the year. Perfect,

[8:49] perfect, perfect, perfect. All right, so

[8:53] that's Janet now. Let's get to Let's get

[8:57] to that big fat money. You know, I just

[9:00] saying crazy trading money.

[9:05] Here we go. Let's get to the fat. And

[9:07] here's the best part. There is recycled

[9:10] tax dollars paying for a Let's increase

[9:15] the ability to tax the living crap out

[9:17] of you.

[9:18] Okay,

[9:21] here we go.

[9:24] Jan, now this is the best part. Jan

[9:26] Leer, outgoing county administrator,

[9:29] current county employee,

[9:32] thousand bucks. Even Huckleberry

[9:35] wouldn't donate to uh crap like this.

[9:38] But she's like, "Ah, it gets better,

[9:40] though." Uh, old Francisco Garcia,

[9:43] retired assistant Puma County

[9:45] administrator,

[9:47] 250.

[9:49] Chad Casmar, you know, the the the shine

[9:53] keeps coming off Chad more and more.

[9:55] 500,

[9:59] Bobby Gino.

[10:01] Um,

[10:02] you know, I I thought you're not

[10:03] supposed to take donations from a

[10:06] company, right? But it says Guino and

[10:09] Mortimer gave them $1,000.

[10:12] Is that only for regular candidates?

[10:13] Bill Beard, help me out. Phil Swain,

[10:16] Swain Associates architect, $1,000.

[10:20] Fletcher McCusker, $1,000.

[10:24] Uh Carrie Silvin, $1,000. It's all the

[10:28] typical characters. This is this is not

[10:30] even close. Rick Price, real estate.

[10:33] He's he's he's in with the whole crew

[10:35] over there. $1,000.

[10:37] Sylvia Lee, beer thrower at uh BYU um

[10:42] basketball players. $1,000. I mean,

[10:45] Larry Hecker, let's go. 250.

[10:50] Jennifer Allen, 500.

[10:53] Brad Lloyd, Lloyd Construction,

[10:59] 10,000 bucks.

[11:02] Mama mia.

[11:04] I I assume Lloyd Construction builds

[11:06] buildings for the county. Uh, Katherine

[11:09] Morton, owner of Homestyle Galleries,

[11:14] 2500 bucks.

[11:18] I think I'd think twice about going to

[11:20] Homestyle Galleries. Uh, Michael Rossi,

[11:24] uh, 500 lobbyist for the county. Uh, the

[11:28] Chamber of Southern Arizona. Now,

[11:31] remember, they get $600,000 from the

[11:34] county, 2500 from the pack.

[11:39] Oh, but wait,

[11:42] there's more. Diamond Ventures 3500

[11:47] Raffle Hospital. This is TMC

[11:51] again. Don't buy the raffle.

[11:56] They keep saying, "Oh, we need your

[11:58] money.

[12:00] We could We're going to save children

[12:03] 25,000 bucks to shove 425 down your

[12:06] throat. 25g's

[12:10] as we say in Monty Python. Do you think

[12:12] you could buy a machine that goes bing

[12:15] for 25 G's instead of giving it to these

[12:18] people? Tucson Electric Power $15,000.

[12:23] visit Tucson,

[12:25] which is mostly tax dollars through bed

[12:27] tax.

[12:28] 40,000 bucks.

[12:31] They have become a cash cow for the

[12:34] local electeds.

[12:36] Well, they're already do given 2 million

[12:38] towards the crime bus. What's 40 G's for

[12:41] this piece of crap?

[12:44] Banner Healthcare, $25,000.

[12:48] Southern Arizona Homebuilders

[12:49] Association, $2500.

[12:53] Let's see what's our dispersements here.

[12:56] Kathleen Turney, she's a campaign

[12:59] consultant for $16,000.

[13:02] Kathleen Turney, $16,000.

[13:05] Kathleen Turney,

[13:08] uh oh, sorry, she was f that was her

[13:10] cumulative amount was $16,000. Sorry. Uh

[13:13] what else? Havalina Consulting,

[13:18] $28,000.

[13:23] Got to keep going. A lot of Havalas,

[13:24] Kathleen. Uh, they sent $800 to the

[13:28] Arizona Democrat party.

[13:32] So, here's the best part. Think about

[13:34] even the chamber. Well, they say it's

[13:35] back. So you have tax dollars going to

[13:38] visit Tucson

[13:40] that goes into this and then goes to the

[13:42] Arizona Democrat party.

[13:46] What happened?

[13:49] Uh Anna do fine. Kathleen Turney

[13:54] Havalina Havalina Havalina Havalina

[14:02] man.

[14:04] Who owns Havalina Consulting? That's got

[14:07] to be fun. Hold on.

[14:10] Who owns Havalina

[14:14] Consulting

[14:17] in Tucson? A

[14:23] Katherine Alonzo, Bill Shield, and David

[14:26] Wade. Why do I know Bill Shield? That

[14:28] sounds familiar.

[14:31] Katherine Alonszo.

[14:33] Katherine Alonszo. Okay, real quick. I

[14:36] just I got to just see who Catherine

[14:39] I want to see if she has like Raa Romero

[14:42] underus and u business or something like

[14:46] Katherine Alonszo Tuso. What does she

[14:49] do?

[14:51] Hope it's with a Z. Okay, we got that.

[14:54] Katherine Alonszo.

[14:57] What is this picture? Who are these

[14:59] people? Katherine Alonzo. Is this her?

[15:03] Arizona Pure Career Consulting.

[15:08] Oh, there's her. Let's see. Hold on.

[15:10] We're almost there. Katherine Alonzo,

[15:12] Belief Action.

[15:15] Oh my god, she's got she in Phoenix.

[15:22] Oh my god, she's a Sunundevil.

[15:27] That's perfect. We're sending money to

[15:28] sunundevils in the Arizona Democrat

[15:30] party through taxpayer dollars getting

[15:33] put through ch move Pima County forward.

[15:35] Love it. So anyway, so Rex's been out

[15:38] there as the only spokesperson for this,

[15:43] right? So then there's a young man named

[15:47] Steve Christie

[15:49] and I want to give kudos to Stephen for

[15:52] his um and thank you for Billy number

[15:56] two for sending this to me. I would

[15:57] never pay for the Arizona Daily Star.

[16:00] We'll get to the the Arizona Daily Star

[16:02] has now uh all 13 employees have now

[16:05] unionized with the Communication Workers

[16:07] of America, which actually it's just

[16:10] another we'll get to that later. All

[16:13] right. I love Steve is hilarious in this

[16:17] uh in this piece. He says,

[16:20] uh the opening line is so good. As sure

[16:23] as the full foliage on Mount Lemon each

[16:27] year, the county tax statements land in

[16:30] the mailboxes.

[16:32] And we get a bunch of calls from

[16:35] constituents expressing dismay, that's

[16:38] putting it lightly, about the bottom

[16:39] line with good reason.

[16:42] This year, variables of the equation

[16:44] used to calculate tax the amount

[16:46] increased.

[16:48] Assessed values rose primary primary

[16:51] property tax approved by the board of

[16:52] supervisor rose.

[16:55] That's even better. They I mean even uh

[16:58] you know they came and go well you know

[16:59] we dropped off we dropped your now

[17:01] they're just like screw you. We we we we

[17:03] just want your dough right. Um

[17:08] Kachansky good morning. What the hell

[17:10] happened to Kasmar? How much did SALC

[17:13] kick in for the they didn't kick in

[17:14] anything for the escrowd? Remember

[17:16] they're they're their their proud

[17:18] statement is they're not taking a uh

[17:20] position on it.

[17:24] So there is no SLC money in the Yes. You

[17:27] know Kasmar likes being a bureaucrat.

[17:31] And you know it's funny PTO is better

[17:33] than Kasmar is what we're learning.

[17:36] Kasmar is the one who shoved Jamie Voss

[17:38] in the corner and took one of the best

[17:40] street cops off the street and they kept

[17:42] them there, kept them there, kept them

[17:44] there because he wrote a letter saying

[17:47] maybe we should keep these people uh off

[17:49] the streets for a few days so they can

[17:50] clear their minds. That became he became

[17:52] enemy number one for the mayor. But

[17:54] anyway, all of a sudden Monica becomes

[17:56] the chief and Vos is out on the streets

[17:58] doing his job. How's that for crazy?

[18:02] So yeah, Chad Chad Chadster talks a good

[18:06] game. Now, is he better than Chris

[18:08] Magnus? Hells to the Yeah, hell's to the

[18:13] But is that a low bar?

[18:16] Hells to the air. There is a gangbanger

[18:18] outside banging the best thump thumping

[18:20] base right now out there. It is awesome.

[18:23] Uh now,

[18:26] um let's get back to Steve Christie. He

[18:29] goes, "Um, now bear in mind there are a

[18:31] number of taxing entities. Um, but

[18:34] here's four controlled directly by the

[18:36] board of soups. There's the Puma County

[18:38] Primary, County Bonds Debt Service,

[18:40] Flood Control, and then there's Library

[18:43] District." Okay.

[18:46] The impact of rising raising the prop

[18:49] primary property tax cannot be

[18:50] overstated.

[18:52] Um

[18:56] any property value increase set by the

[18:58] county assessor can be neutralized or

[19:00] even reduced by the board of sus by

[19:03] lower lowering the primary rate to

[19:04] offset the rise in value. This is being

[19:07] called ne revenue neutral which I

[19:09] advocate for every year and instead my

[19:11] board colleagues on the board vote to

[19:12] raise the rate even higher than before.

[19:16] Why did the primary tax rate need to go

[19:18] up? Let me get a little screen. Need to

[19:20] go up. That's air quotes for you video

[19:22] watchers.

[19:24] Um, some might call this the year

[19:27] reality set in. Uh, era money u co

[19:30] money's gone such as opera carares and

[19:32] other social services sent to FEMA

[19:34] County has expired or been expanded.

[19:38] However, as the case with one-time

[19:40] funding, there's continued demand and

[19:42] for these social service programs.

[19:45] My colleagues voted for much for their

[19:47] continuence and the funding source local

[19:49] property tax increases for projects such

[19:52] as supercharging prek education and

[19:55] daycare with $10 million

[19:59] as well as $9 million in subsidized

[20:02] public housing.

[20:04] $10 million for daycare.

[20:08] Okay,

[20:10] which leads me to urge you to vote no on

[20:13] Prop 425.

[20:16] The problem the proposition claims to

[20:18] address a highly technical and in the

[20:20] weeds challenge that dates back to the

[20:21] 80 80s. It was the Arizona version of

[20:25] legend California's legendary pop prop

[20:28] 13. In fact, if 425 passes, it would

[20:32] revise the 80 voter improved base limit

[20:34] by $70 million. an addition in 2026 of

[20:39] $610

[20:41] million and raise the spending limit to

[20:45] 1.43

[20:46] billion,

[20:48] an amount that will then be adjusted

[20:50] upward each year.

[20:54] I love that Taxosaurus Rex is the only

[20:56] one out there. And again, for all of you

[20:59] who think Rex is moderate, he is not. He

[21:02] is a leftist. I've been telling you that

[21:05] for years.

[21:10] Remember, he was the one who got put at

[21:12] the front of the line at the Cat

[21:13] Foothills schoolboard meeting because he

[21:16] does he doesn't What was the thing about

[21:18] the kids that want to like uh change

[21:20] their sexuality without telling their

[21:23] parents or their pronouns or whatever?

[21:25] He was right out there. T Rex is a

[21:28] leftist

[21:30] and for some reason he loves data

[21:32] centers.

[21:35] So for all you lefties that hate data

[21:37] centers, Texosaurus Rex because he wants

[21:39] that that tax dollars from the data

[21:42] center. That was more important than

[21:43] anything you you data sater haters hate.

[21:47] Okay. Um the problem comes down pure and

[21:51] simple to the spending history and

[21:52] priorities of the board of soups. Have

[21:54] we heard that before? This is Steve

[21:56] Christiey's oped in the dead star.

[21:59] We cannot risk the amount of um this

[22:02] amount of taxpayer dollars being handed

[22:04] to a supermajority of this board.

[22:08] Um if there was guard rails in the

[22:10] proposition to ensure core county

[22:12] functions, then passing 425 could make

[22:15] some sense.

[22:18] From the imagination of a 10-year plan

[22:20] to repair all our roads to good

[22:22] condition to engaging in uh buying up uh

[22:26] land and buildings, engaging in costly

[22:28] lawsuits, vilifying businesses and

[22:30] economic development and forever social

[22:32] service grants to unaccountable NGO

[22:35] NOS's.

[22:36] That's unbelievably true. As we uh and

[22:39] we hear that if it doesn't pass, the

[22:41] county won't be able to spend all the

[22:42] money it collects. Here's a radical

[22:45] thought. Why don't we lower the property

[22:46] taxes and collects less?

[22:49] When evaluating 425, it's worthwhile to

[22:52] ask two questions. One, are we better

[22:55] off as a region and is our quality of

[22:57] life higher with spending priorities of

[22:58] the curtain board of supervisors? And

[23:01] number two, can Pima County home and

[23:03] business owners afford this board of

[23:04] supervisors? The answer is uh of course

[23:08] no to both those. I think reasonable

[23:10] answer is that we all must vote no to

[23:12] 425. The voters got it right back in

[23:15] 1980.

[23:19] I mean,

[23:21] this is this one's so this one's so

[23:23] hilarious. Even the people that have

[23:25] funding it, they're doing it at a

[23:28] gunpoint is what I would say

[23:32] because they won't even put their face.

[23:34] Remember in the old days they'd have

[23:36] Huckleberry and all have them in a

[23:37] kumbaya moment and go, "We need to pass

[23:40] bonds."

[23:42] So when you go to yes on425.com

[23:45] and you go oh who's supporting this pig

[23:49] there's three people there's three ent

[23:51] there's one person

[23:53] okay

[23:55] and two entities that have that will put

[23:58] their name on this publicly

[24:01] Adalina Graalva

[24:03] the Puma Democrat party and the Chamber

[24:07] of Southern Arizona.

[24:09] That is the best. That's it. That is the

[24:13] best. Well, Snell's like, "But they're

[24:14] giving me 600,000. That's my salary. We

[24:18] can't We can't We can't say no to these

[24:20] people."

[24:22] I mean, Joe Snell is sticking it. And

[24:24] Felipe Garcia, I I I tried to be nice

[24:28] with them, but Felipe and his board have

[24:30] screwed the tourists in this town, the

[24:33] restaurants, the funders.

[24:36] They've screwed them.

[24:44] $40,000 of tourism dollars to go to

[24:47] shove this sucker down your throat.

[24:51] When does his board find some hueos?

[24:55] That's what I'd like to know. They got

[24:57] none. They will not protect the tourism

[25:01] uh business owners and the restaurant

[25:03] owners of this town at all. Ever.

[25:06] Ever.

[25:08] So,

[25:10] um, let's uh Oh, sorry. I opened up

[25:14] something that I got to hear my own

[25:15] voice. All right, let's go to Let's go

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[30:47] Oh, hello there. Oh, hi Chris Smith.

[30:52] Good morning to you all. Uh we're

[30:54] hanging out with our good friend Mark

[30:56] Van Beern. Dr. Van Nostrin, good

[30:58] morning.

[30:58] >> Good morning, my friend.

[30:59] >> And how are you, sir?

[31:00] >> I am well. That's good.

[31:01] >> I am very well. I was just uh we were

[31:03] just talking about we're you know, we're

[31:05] former hotel guys, so we talked tourism

[31:07] and stuff like that.

[31:08] >> Um we're talking about certain rates at

[31:11] hotels, right? We're talking about So,

[31:12] first of all, we're talking about fall

[31:13] foliage when you had a hotel. Yeah.

[31:16] >> Where was this hotel that

[31:17] >> uh in White River Junction, Vermont, I

[31:19] was a regional. We had a Hampton in in

[31:22] in this and it was it's uh as as the

[31:25] crow flies probably 10 miles from

[31:27] Dartmouth.

[31:28] >> Beautiful place. Oh yeah. But but I mean

[31:31] there was really not an awful lot of

[31:33] business around there, but it was off a

[31:34] major highway and everything. And uh we

[31:37] were projecting rates they were going to

[31:39] run probably around a hundred bucks,

[31:40] right? And this is 20 years ago. And we

[31:43] opened up right in the middle of fall

[31:45] foliage and we were getting $400 a

[31:48] night. It was crazy.

[31:50] >> This was it was like 20 years ago.

[31:52] >> And uh it was it was crazy. And and uh

[31:55] the owner is just happy and he's calling

[31:58] me. He goes, "This is fantastic." And I

[32:00] go, "Yeah, yeah." So So like a month

[32:02] goes by and all of a sudden all the

[32:04] leaves fell off the tree. Yeah. And and

[32:07] it's like uh they're running a $98 rate

[32:10] and he calls me up and he goes, "What

[32:11] happened?" I go, "Come on. You know what

[32:13] happened? The leaves fell off."

[32:15] So, I was telling Mark, I think the most

[32:17] profitable hotels in Arizona

[32:19] >> Yeah.

[32:20] >> might be the two Marriotts. There's a um

[32:24] it's a courtyard and the residents in

[32:26] they're right next to each other in

[32:27] Sedona.

[32:28] >> Yeah.

[32:29] >> They're south of the junction.

[32:31] >> Sure. Oh, okay. Yeah.

[32:32] >> All right. They're not up in the They're

[32:34] south. It's They have a great view. The

[32:36] uh the courtyard actually has a little

[32:38] sky deck.

[32:39] >> Okay.

[32:39] >> Right. That you And we've actually

[32:41] gotten like dinner to go.

[32:43] >> Yeah. and a bottle of veno or a couple

[32:45] of beers and just sit on that sky deck.

[32:47] It's better than most restaurants. Yeah.

[32:48] Right.

[32:49] >> So, just to let you know from a couple

[32:51] of weeks from now, right?

[32:52] >> Yeah.

[32:52] >> So, if you want to stay at the

[32:53] courtyard, which is the the slumier of

[32:55] the the places,

[32:57] >> it's 607 a night

[32:59] >> out the door.

[33:00] >> See, I got to tell you, Chris, uh I was

[33:02] up there uh when did we go up there? I

[33:05] think April, and we had a great time,

[33:07] but I rented a house and a lot cheaper

[33:10] than that. Uh the residence in where you

[33:13] can get your breakfast included.

[33:14] >> Yeah.

[33:15] >> Uh 687.

[33:17] >> Okay.

[33:17] >> It's nuts.

[33:18] >> And then I forgot that they have the

[33:20] Skyrock Sedona. It's their one of their

[33:22] portfolio hotels.

[33:23] >> Oh yeah.

[33:24] >> It's one of those It's one of those cool

[33:26] It's one of those cool things. It's like

[33:27] a It's like a Zack Yenser drug dream,

[33:29] right? Um 758 a night.

[33:36] Do you like,

[33:37] >> you know, the thing is when when I go to

[33:39] a place like Sedona, I'm I sleep in the

[33:42] hotel

[33:43] >> and I'm out the rest of the day, right?

[33:45] I'm going to restaurants. I'm going to

[33:47] tourist attractions and whatever. So,

[33:48] you're paying that kind of money

[33:52] >> for what? I don't It's a bed.

[33:54] >> Agreed. Uh good morning to uh Mike and

[33:58] Ron and Maryanne who are said good

[34:01] morning in our Facebook live chat. Uh,

[34:04] start thinking about um start thinking

[34:06] about um aerial combat movies for Mark.

[34:09] We're going to get there in a second.

[34:11] Um, hang on to your hats, Cowboy Tilly.

[34:14] You better believe it. It's windy right

[34:16] now out there.

[34:17] >> I know. That's why I put this on because

[34:19] it's just like uh I love the

[34:21] temperature, but when the wind's blowing

[34:22] like that, it's actually a little cool.

[34:24] But uh yeah, what they're saying like 50

[34:27] to 60 mph winds. So, batting down the H,

[34:30] you know, and I know there's people that

[34:32] decorate it for Halloween. You better

[34:33] You better uh

[34:34] >> I hope it knocks over every one of your

[34:36] giant skeleton pieces of crap

[34:38] >> and your devils and demons out there.

[34:41] >> It's going to be risky.

[34:44] >> Um, so Mike said that the Dead Star put

[34:47] the Christy oped about no on 425 behind

[34:50] the pay wall, but Rex's yes, they did

[34:53] not.

[34:56] >> Wow.

[34:57] Um, you're a big fan of of newspapers.

[35:00] Well, you used to be.

[35:01] >> I used to be. I mean, it's it's so sad

[35:04] for me because I had a morning ritual

[35:06] even when I was working where, you know,

[35:09] I read the paper from cover to cover

[35:11] every day. And uh I got to the point

[35:14] where after listening to you influencing

[35:16] me a little bit, but also, you know,

[35:19] really thinking about it myself. I was,

[35:21] you know, I had a subscription to the

[35:23] Death Star for quite some time. Yeah.

[35:25] And I just got so tired of it because

[35:27] there was no new news in it, right? It

[35:30] it was two days old. And uh and quite

[35:33] frankly, listen to people like Stellar

[35:35] who who was a one-sided, you know, uh

[35:39] you know, speaker for uh mayor and

[35:42] council, you just get tired of it. And

[35:44] and it's just like and and they did

[35:46] everything they possibly could do to

[35:49] alienate who their clients were. Okay,

[35:52] I'm a senior citizen. And uh what did

[35:54] you do? You shrunk the paper. I don't

[35:56] like that. I like a bigger paper. Right.

[35:58] You shrunk the paper. You you you uh

[36:01] shrunk the comics. You you shrunk all

[36:03] the editorial stuff. And there's really

[36:06] nothing in there. But but AP stories.

[36:09] And it and it's ridiculous.

[36:11] >> The final straw is when they got rid of

[36:13] Hagar the Horrible.

[36:14] >> Actually, you know what the final straw

[36:16] was for me? And it wasn't it wasn't a

[36:18] comic, but that sticker that goes on

[36:23] that sticker that goes for advertisement

[36:25] that goes on the front page and usually

[36:27] covers up the date or whatever it is.

[36:29] >> Actually, it's better than that. It

[36:30] usually covers up the ad of someone who

[36:31] bought the top.

[36:33] >> There you go. But I hate that sticker so

[36:36] much and I went out of my way to not do

[36:38] business with anyone who ever advertised

[36:40] on something like that. I just hated it.

[36:42] >> So the dead star, all 13 employees.

[36:45] Oh,

[36:46] >> Shay, can you put that picture up real

[36:47] quick? 13,

[36:48] >> I think. We We'll get our fingers out

[36:50] and count together.

[36:52] >> That's pretty sad.

[36:53] >> And they were talking about how they

[36:56] were so excited. Taxasaurus Rexes.

[37:00] >> I like that.

[37:00] >> It's one of my favorites. More tax

[37:03] money. Ra.

[37:05] >> I didn't raise your taxes.

[37:10] >> That's it. They joined the They finally

[37:13] have unionized.

[37:15] This was their This is the union.

[37:17] >> Looks like 12.

[37:18] >> There's little Timmy behind the guy with

[37:20] the glasses.

[37:21] >> He's not wearing his stupid hat, so you

[37:23] can't recognize him.

[37:24] >> Oh, I I recognize him.

[37:26] >> So, this is their celebration of they

[37:28] finally have unionized

[37:32] >> what with 12 employees. Come on.

[37:36] That's a powerful.

[37:39] Now, the best part about the

[37:40] >> Did the managers sign up for the union?

[37:43] >> What? The one guy?

[37:44] >> One guy.

[37:45] >> I mean, how many managers they got over

[37:47] there?

[37:47] >> Well, that's true. Do you have an HR

[37:48] department?

[37:50] >> They have an AI HR person someplace back

[37:52] at the USA Today.

[37:54] >> That's terrible.

[37:55] >> So, this is your Arizona Daily Star

[37:57] staff. Okay. And at the same time, um,

[38:02] it's important that they unionize under

[38:04] the Communication Workers Association.

[38:07] And I'm going to tell you this is this

[38:08] is my little cliff Clayven, right?

[38:11] >> Yeah.

[38:11] >> It's a little known fact, Normy. Right.

[38:13] >> Okay.

[38:14] >> Well, it's not. So, the communication

[38:16] workers is one of the unions that is

[38:19] hip-to-hip with the local political

[38:22] machine,

[38:23] >> right? They've unionized the office

[38:25] workers. Well, that makes sense. Yeah.

[38:26] So, now

[38:28] >> finally

[38:29] they are now part of the union that's

[38:31] part of the that is one of the

[38:33] supporters of the machine. So now

[38:34] there's no even there's not even hiding

[38:36] it anymore, which I

[38:37] >> It'll be interesting when they do go out

[38:39] of business, and they're going out of

[38:40] business, right? When they do go out of

[38:42] business, what is the union stance on

[38:44] that going to be?

[38:46] >> I mean, they're going to lose 13 dudes.

[38:47] How much are they charging these? Look

[38:49] at these. Look at the Look at the kids

[38:50] on the bottom right. What are they

[38:52] making? They making 10 bucks an hour.

[38:55] >> You can make more. You can make it more

[38:57] at In-N-Out, baby.

[38:58] >> That's what I'm Whatever the minimum

[38:59] wage that those poor girls on the bottom

[39:01] right are making, right?

[39:03] I assume Timmy's the highest paid there,

[39:06] which is of course a joke and a half,

[39:08] but

[39:08] >> oh my god, he is so terrible. Every once

[39:11] in a while, he'll cross my feed on

[39:13] something and it's just like it's always

[39:15] the same slant. It's always pro mayor

[39:18] and counsel and it's just sickening.

[39:21] >> Again, that's that's why I I I I had to

[39:23] give props to our boy Josh Jacobson.

[39:26] Just crushed him in that debate on Bucky

[39:28] a couple of Fridays ago.

[39:30] >> Josh is killing it, man. It's just like

[39:32] he ought to run for political office,

[39:33] but

[39:34] >> Oh, he's asked many a time.

[39:35] >> He's uh he's really something. I re I

[39:37] really admire him. I think he's doing a

[39:39] great job.

[39:40] >> Josh Jacobson versus Rex Scott in 2028.

[39:43] >> I'd love to see it.

[39:45] >> That's what I would do.

[39:46] >> The only The only thing that's

[39:47] disheartening

[39:48] >> Josh is literally throwing crap at his

[39:50] whatever he's listen his phone probably

[39:51] right now. Go to hell decent. What's

[39:53] disheartening though, Chris, is is just

[39:55] like this voting populace keeps voting

[39:57] for the same people over and over again

[39:59] and then they complain about the way

[40:01] things are here. Well, why do you think

[40:03] that is? You you're you're voting for

[40:05] people who don't give a darn about you

[40:07] and they want to keep you in poverty and

[40:09] that's what they're doing.

[40:10] >> Yep.

[40:11] >> Yeah. I mean, but we we were talking

[40:12] about this before coming on the air,

[40:13] right? When you have this bad of a

[40:16] public school, right? We were talking

[40:17] about Adelita Grahalva is like a

[40:19] tornado, right? everything and where she

[40:21] goes, there's a wreck in her wake.

[40:23] >> Yeah.

[40:24] >> Right. So, TUSD,

[40:26] >> she destroyed it.

[40:27] >> Destroyed it. Right.

[40:28] >> You know what I You know what I always

[40:29] think about? Those kids that were

[40:30] chained to their desk over Mexican

[40:32] American studies. I remember that. You

[40:33] remember that? That was disgusting. I

[40:35] remember it's just like, wait a minute.

[40:36] The kids can't do math.

[40:39] >> They they can't write or read and you

[40:42] know, but but we're we're we're standing

[40:44] on that hill, right? It's just like for

[40:47] Mexican-American studies. Wow. Really?

[40:49] Well, I remember they were so they were

[40:51] so um strident violent about it, right?

[40:54] So, Miguel Quas was one of the board

[40:56] members and he wrote an oped because

[40:58] what the idea was they wanted the

[41:00] Grahalves wanted to replace American

[41:01] history with this

[41:03] >> perfect this thing, right? Yeah.

[41:04] >> But they didn't want to do it for

[41:06] Asian-American or African-American

[41:08] studies, just Mexican American studies,

[41:11] >> which is, you know, let's go down that

[41:13] narrow path,

[41:14] >> right? The rest of you really can go to

[41:16] hell. Okay. Uh and so uh Miguel wrote an

[41:20] op-ed

[41:22] >> basically saying why he was a he was

[41:24] going to vote no basically against

[41:26] Graalva on this.

[41:27] >> Oh,

[41:28] >> right. And then all of a sudden like at

[41:30] his mom's house there's like protesters

[41:32] cursing cursing and sign.

[41:35] >> They don't even know what they're

[41:36] protesting. It's just oh it's just it's

[41:39] mindboggling. It really is. And so and

[41:42] then you know um the people you know um

[41:46] she was people that I know that were in

[41:47] the meeting. Yeah.

[41:48] >> She was coordinating on her cell phone

[41:51] when the when they released the kids,

[41:54] >> right?

[41:54] >> Released. Oh yeah.

[41:55] >> And then the other guy that was what was

[41:57] his name? You guys could help me out. He

[41:59] was the guy from Colorado, the bad

[42:01] professor

[42:03] who he's the guy um after 911 he called

[42:06] all the people that died little Ikeman's

[42:09] is what he called him. What was that

[42:11] guy's name? You guys got to help me out.

[42:12] Hold on. Hold on.

[42:14] >> That's terrible.

[42:15] >> Uh he was like an Adalita like hero.

[42:18] Colorado professor. I want I can't

[42:22] believe I'm forgetting his name. This is

[42:23] for Little Ikeman's. Hold on.

[42:28] What was his name? Ward Churchill.

[42:32] >> I remember

[42:33] >> Ward Churchill.

[42:34] >> Ward Churchill. Good name.

[42:36] >> He referred to World Trade Center

[42:38] victims of September 11th as little

[42:40] Ikeman's comparing them to Nazi war

[42:42] criminal a

[42:43] >> Did he keep his job?

[42:44] >> Of course. Probably got a promotion. Um

[42:49] sad.

[42:50] >> So anyway, he was I think he was in the

[42:52] audience. So like they were showing off

[42:53] the ward. I mean

[42:55] >> or Churchill

[42:56] >> but again so if you take TUSD

[42:59] >> right

[43:00] >> Sunnyside right the part of AI

[43:04] >> right Murf got there ward 80 W Churchill

[43:07] thank you buddy um

[43:10] >> how many

[43:12] um uninformed voters were we cranking

[43:14] out at a at a graduation every May

[43:17] >> right yeah

[43:18] >> for 20 30 years

[43:20] >> well and that's what you had that's

[43:22] who's voting now and and that's what's

[43:23] scary about the whole thing because they

[43:25] can't connect the dots. They can't

[43:27] understand why, you know, there there's

[43:29] not a lot of good job opportunity in in

[43:32] Tucson, but you keep voting for the same

[43:35] people. Hello.

[43:38] >> Connect the dots, baby.

[43:39] >> So, I I want to tell you, as I

[43:41] unexpectedly, I've told Mark, I've and

[43:43] I've talked to you, my film scholarship

[43:45] this year, uh once in a while, is Jason

[43:47] Stathitha movies, right? Because they're

[43:50] so amazingly bad.

[43:52] >> Yeah. But but I I I always say this

[43:55] about Jason Staithm movies. There are

[43:57] scenes in those movies that you really

[44:00] like.

[44:00] >> I understand

[44:01] >> you just like when like in the beekeeper

[44:03] when he goes and and he's you know

[44:06] security stops him stops him. He's got

[44:08] two gas cans. He's going to torch the

[44:10] building. Right. I remember. And they

[44:13] >> scenes in the movie.

[44:14] >> Yeah. They come out there and they go,

[44:16] "You're not going anywhere." And he

[44:17] goes, "Really?" He goes,

[44:19] >> "Now remember the question is uh you

[44:21] know what do you want?" or whatever,

[44:22] right? and he goes, "I'm going to burn

[44:23] it down.

[44:24] >> I'm going to burn the place down."

[44:26] >> I mean,

[44:27] >> so

[44:28] >> I mean, I think everybody kind of has

[44:30] that thought process in their mind in a

[44:32] J Jason Staithm movie. So,

[44:34] >> so part of my um

[44:38] um

[44:40] my Halloween this year. I usually don't

[44:42] dress up for Halloween

[44:43] >> really,

[44:44] >> but

[44:45] >> I don't either.

[44:46] >> We're going to do a beekeeper Halloween

[44:48] this year.

[44:49] >> Love it.

[44:50] >> All right. Uh, I'm going to have I have

[44:52] some like these LED spotlights, right?

[44:54] >> I'm going to go to home I'm going to go

[44:55] to Hobby Lobby, get some of the gold

[44:57] cellophane. Y

[44:58] >> So, when you walk up to the house,

[45:00] >> it's got the yellow honey look to it.

[45:03] >> Got it.

[45:04] >> I'm going to be giving out honey, a bit

[45:05] of honeys and picking out people's kids

[45:08] fillings

[45:09] >> left and right.

[45:11] >> And I haven't I haven't gotten the I I

[45:12] have I have a beekeeper shirt.

[45:14] >> There you go.

[45:15] >> But I do have

[45:17] >> Oh, I like it. It's perfect. Perfect.

[45:21] >> We're ready to go.

[45:23] >> It fit my head, too, which is a miracle.

[45:27] >> Amazon.

[45:27] >> You got any audio?

[45:29] >> Oh, we're gonna So, my my one buddy's

[45:31] like, you know, maybe you should do like

[45:32] uh cuz I always play like a music list.

[45:35] >> Yeah, but we're going to we're going to

[45:35] do it. We're going to do buzz a buzzing

[45:37] bee sound and freak everybody out. Yeah,

[45:39] I I I don't know if you've ever seen a

[45:41] swarm like that, but I've been on a

[45:42] couple of golf courses here uh in town

[45:45] where uh all of a sudden you see these

[45:47] swarms and that that noise is very

[45:50] frightening. There's no question about

[45:51] it.

[45:52] >> I actually saw a landing of a h of a

[45:54] whole a moving of a hive.

[45:56] >> Wow.

[45:56] >> So, uh up in Catalina there's that

[45:59] little Super Eight hotel. Used to be a

[46:00] Super Eight hotel

[46:01] >> and I was doing some consulting with the

[46:03] guys who own that one and several other

[46:05] e economy hotels across the state. And

[46:08] it just happened to be there's like a

[46:10] little meeting room that overlooks

[46:13] >> right

[46:14] >> the front drive. Yes, Flight of the

[46:16] Bumblebee. You are correct, Bill. We're

[46:17] going to be cranking the crap out of

[46:19] that. Absolutely.

[46:21] >> That and the Ingve Momstein version on

[46:23] guitar. We're going to do it all. So,

[46:25] um, we're sitting there and they have

[46:27] that overhang over the thing, right?

[46:30] >> And all of a sudden, we had the window

[46:32] open. It was like a beautiful And you

[46:33] could hear this sound.

[46:35] >> Yeah.

[46:36] >> What is that? Right. Well, we know what

[46:38] happens is that if you don't notice the

[46:39] worker bees are prep that have been

[46:42] preparing the spot for months, weeks or

[46:45] months, right?

[46:46] >> Well, they didn't notice it could so

[46:47] high up, right? Right.

[46:48] >> So, what happened was the whole swarm

[46:52] >> they just

[46:52] >> they found a little crevice.

[46:54] >> Yeah.

[46:54] >> In that porticochet up there. And so all

[46:57] of a sudden these thousands and

[46:58] thousands of bees covering the whole

[47:01] place, flying around.

[47:03] >> Then the queen gets moved in,

[47:05] >> right? And then all of a sudden like 80%

[47:08] of them disappear into the hole.

[47:10] >> Yeah. It's amazing, isn't it?

[47:12] >> It was. It was

[47:12] >> Well, we had uh at the Marriott, this is

[47:15] kind of weird, but on our top floor, we

[47:17] have an overhang over all the all the

[47:19] balconies up there, right?

[47:20] >> And uh a hi, same thing. We had a hive

[47:25] in a day appeared and it was crazy. I

[47:28] mean, there's all kinds of bees there.

[47:30] So, I had to call an exterminator and

[47:31] this guy's out on the ledge spraying

[47:33] them and all the bees are falling down.

[47:34] But it Yeah, it was bad.

[47:36] >> Yeah, it's a it's a it's a pain in the

[47:37] ass in any day, but it's pain in the ass

[47:39] when it's on the seventh floor of the

[47:40] hotel.

[47:40] >> Yeah, big time. Big time.

[47:42] >> Uh, anything in the world of movies uh

[47:44] that you've seen or I know we're both

[47:46] waiting for Jimmy Stewart.

[47:47] >> Wait, waiting for the Jimmy Stewart

[47:49] movie. Like I said, I wanted to see the

[47:50] Stathithm movie, but but it's not in the

[47:52] theaters anymore.

[47:54] >> Well, uh Oh.

[47:57] >> Huh.

[47:57] >> Are we I know. Are we allowed, David, if

[48:00] you're watching, are we allowed to show

[48:01] a movie trailer? Because Beekeeper 2

[48:03] just came out. The trailer really

[48:05] >> is coming out on uh

[48:06] >> Wow.

[48:07] >> And they brought Jeremy Irons back.

[48:09] >> Really? There you go.

[48:10] >> So he he does shove a flamethrower in a

[48:12] guy's mouth,

[48:14] >> burns it up, and then he looks right at

[48:16] the screen and goes,

[48:19] >> "Why are you being so hotheaded?"

[48:22] >> There you go, man.

[48:24] >> Um

[48:26] he's just got such a persona. Have you

[48:28] seen a couple of the ads that he's done?

[48:29] >> Of course. you know, and and even those,

[48:32] you know, are really kind of funny.

[48:34] >> So, part of my Stathithm scholarship has

[48:36] been there's these movies, action movies

[48:38] that I find that are interesting but

[48:41] also funny at times.

[48:42] >> Sure.

[48:42] >> Right. So, Taken, of course, is one of

[48:44] the great comedy comedic trilogies.

[48:47] >> Yeah.

[48:47] >> Ever. All right.

[48:50] >> We can play it or David or we should or

[48:52] or we can't play it. He just put Yes,

[48:55] we can play it. Well, because it's a

[48:58] trailer. So maybe I'm going to send it

[49:00] to Shay cuz Staithm, it's all about

[49:02] Staithm.

[49:03] >> Yes.

[49:03] >> Um, so what happened was that um

[49:08] um then I got to the Equalizer films.

[49:12] >> And I love

[49:13] >> I love the equal I'm sorry. Don't don't

[49:15] be throwing equalizer on your bus cuz I

[49:18] love I love when he grabs that guy's

[49:20] hand and he goes, "This is a three."

[49:25] >> I'm just saying.

[49:26] >> Yeah. that. Um, let me let me send this

[49:29] over to Shay real quick. Uh, let me let

[49:32] me know when you're ready to play the

[49:34] Beekeeper 2. Um, so um,

[49:39] but the that's kind of the the the the

[49:42] some of the deaths.

[49:44] >> Oh, that was quick.

[49:45] >> Wow, that's fantastic.

[49:52] >> I love that he killed What's his nuts?

[49:54] Pedro Pascal in the second one. Yeah.

[49:56] >> Right. But then I get to the Sitha

[49:58] movies and I watched the I never watched

[50:00] the Meg movies until the last 30 days.

[50:03] >> Yeah.

[50:04] >> That is

[50:06] the funniest crap people. So just put

[50:09] your headphone up to your ear.

[50:12] >> And it's part of a year of scholarship

[50:14] of Jason Staithm movies.

[50:16] >> Beekeeper 2. Let's go.

[50:22] Watch this. This is B on his finger.

[50:23] Watch this. This is awesome.

[50:26] Uh, see,

[50:27] >> you were the most dangerous operative

[50:29] they've ever created.

[50:30] >> Hello, little bee.

[50:32] >> But now the beekeepers have gone rogue.

[50:36] >> And you're the only one who can stop

[50:38] them.

[50:42] >> The beekeepers want complete control of

[50:44] the government, and they're prepared to

[50:46] kill anyone that gets in the way.

[50:50] >> Oh, that's going to hurt.

[50:51] >> If we're going to go up against the

[50:52] beekeepers, we're going to do it my way.

[50:54] I would hope for nothing less.

[50:56] >> Yeah.

[50:59] >> I got you a car.

[51:02] >> 1969 Dodge Super B.

[51:05] >> Super.

[51:06] >> Fully loaded with Stinger.

[51:12] >> Oh,

[51:16] you got a machine gun mounted on. Yes.

[51:18] Thank you.

[51:19] >> Welcome back.

[51:24] Watch this.

[51:29] >> Next time, don't be so hotheaded.

[51:36] >> Now, if you guys want to make this a

[51:37] viewer event where you come with me and

[51:39] Mark to the Beekeeper 2.

[51:41] >> Now, we could do that.

[51:42] >> We can guarantee the Beekeeper 2 will be

[51:44] much better than Asteroid City.

[51:46] >> Oh, for sure. There's no question about

[51:49] that.

[51:49] >> Now, the Meg 2, and if you haven't seen

[51:50] it, I'm sorry. The what? One of the

[51:52] great Have Have you seen the Meg movies?

[51:54] >> Yeah.

[51:55] >> When he kills the Meg with the broken

[51:58] helicopter rotor.

[51:59] >> Yeah.

[52:00] >> And he just makes the shark come at it

[52:01] and then he puts it in the and impales

[52:03] itself.

[52:03] >> Yeah.

[52:04] >> Come on. That's

[52:05] >> It's It's sweet.

[52:06] >> He makes J John Wayne look like a wuss.

[52:08] >> Like a big giant wuss. So, uh maybe

[52:12] before the show's over, we'll play the

[52:13] the uh the the most the last Jimmy

[52:16] trailer, too, now that I know I can do

[52:18] trailers and I get

[52:18] >> Yeah, that'd be kind of cool.

[52:19] >> If Samaro doesn't get arrested.

[52:21] >> Yeah. So, aerial combat movies.

[52:23] >> Aerial combat movies. And And this is

[52:25] something that's been near and dear to

[52:27] me for a long time because as a kid, I

[52:29] used to watch all these all these war

[52:32] pictures and and I loved the aerial

[52:34] ones. Um, like Dawn Patrol is not on my

[52:38] list, but uh I loved Aerrol Flynn and

[52:40] and I thought that was a very very good

[52:42] movie. It didn't make my list because I

[52:45] was really trying to concentrate on the

[52:47] aerial scenes um on this list, but um

[52:51] you know, I just I just fell in love

[52:54] with it. But I did a little bit of

[52:56] research on um

[52:59] things that were going on. These planes

[53:00] were so rickety like in World War I for

[53:02] example, you know, they were flying by

[53:05] planes. Did you ever notice, Chris?

[53:07] >> Yes, sir. that the the gun for uh the

[53:12] the American pilots and the Allied

[53:15] pilots was mounted right in front of the

[53:19] pilot. Okay.

[53:20] >> So, how did it not propeller, right? Do

[53:23] you know the answer?

[53:24] >> Did they they they basically coordinated

[53:26] it that

[53:27] >> Well, listen to this. So, how they how

[53:29] they did it originally, they didn't even

[53:31] think about it. They just did it. Okay.

[53:33] So, guys were shooting up their

[53:35] propellers. So then the first thing they

[53:37] did was they put these deflectors on the

[53:42] on the uh deflector shields on the

[53:44] props.

[53:46] Okay, that sounds like a good idea, but

[53:49] the ricochets could actually come back

[53:53] to the pilot and kill him. So they they

[53:56] thought, well, that's not a very good

[53:57] plan. So what they did is they came up

[53:59] with these gear synchronization things

[54:02] where where basically uh the the um it

[54:06] was geared toward u the bullets flying

[54:09] through the empty space in the prop. But

[54:12] I mean think about that technology to be

[54:14] able to do that in in a very infancy

[54:17] stage of aviation. They came up with

[54:20] this plan and it worked and and it's

[54:22] amazing. But again, here we when in

[54:26] World War I, you're you're looking at

[54:27] Germany having superior uh planes and

[54:31] super it it was it was amazing how much

[54:34] better they were. Our planes were so

[54:36] rickety and everything. It was just

[54:37] amazing.

[54:38] >> I love the fact that you had um like

[54:40] really the beginning of uh probably

[54:42] aerial combat was probably throwing

[54:44] bombs off of zeppelins andor planes.

[54:46] >> Well, zeppelins zeppelins were a big

[54:48] thing. And as a matter of fact, uh, in

[54:50] one of the movies I'm going to talk

[54:51] about, they attack a Zeppelin and and

[54:54] it's it's amazing because, uh, these

[54:56] things were pretty effective at dropping

[54:58] bombs, um, you know, until they came up

[55:01] with a technology where they could wipe

[55:03] them out pretty easily. But, uh, amazing

[55:06] stuff.

[55:06] >> So, um, the movie I caught on TCM in the

[55:10] last two months was called Zeppelin.

[55:11] >> Oh, really?

[55:12] >> Right. Jan Michael Vincent. No, Michael

[55:14] York. Michael York.

[55:15] >> Michael York. You can't Michael Vincent.

[55:17] We're doing something else.

[55:20] >> Forgive. Forgive. Uh Michael York. And

[55:23] it's the idea that the Germans are using

[55:26] and and the way they say that the

[55:28] Zeppelin can get high enough.

[55:29] >> Yeah.

[55:29] >> That they couldn't hit it with whatever

[55:31] guns

[55:31] >> anti-aircraft they had at the time kind

[55:33] of thing. So

[55:34] >> amazing.

[55:35] >> And of course it's got the overly

[55:36] dramatic

[55:37] >> theatrical poster. It's Zeppelin, you

[55:40] know, and

[55:41] >> it's it's good.

[55:42] >> It is good.

[55:43] >> It's good. Uh we will play I I sent I

[55:45] did send Shay Jimmy but we'll we'll do

[55:47] it before you you leave today. So cool.

[55:49] So and and the other thing about aerial

[55:50] combat I just want to say too, right?

[55:52] >> Sure.

[55:53] >> There's something inherently cool about

[55:56] watching a well choreographed

[56:00] aerial combat scene. Right. And it was

[56:04] really and then it's multiplied if you

[56:05] really think about Star Wars.

[56:07] >> Yeah.

[56:08] >> Right. and all those aerial combat. And

[56:10] George Lucas will tell you Yeah. that

[56:12] when he did Star Wars, he was think I

[56:15] leaned back on her, sorry. Um he was

[56:18] thinking World War II.

[56:19] >> Yeah.

[56:20] >> Uh airplanes.

[56:21] >> Well, if you you might be too young to

[56:24] even remember this, but uh the um 12:00

[56:27] high series that was on on ABC was

[56:31] pretty phenomenal. And they had some se

[56:34] because the these predominated with B-52

[56:37] bombers. And again, you had the tail

[56:39] gunners in the back. You had the bubble

[56:41] underneath and the bubble above. And the

[56:43] bubble underneath that that guy was just

[56:47] he was Yeah. I mean, he was locked in

[56:49] down there. You know how many times a

[56:51] guy got wounded and they couldn't even

[56:52] get him out. You know, it was it was

[56:54] just brutal. But um fantastic aerial

[56:58] battle scenes with in 12:00 high. 12:00

[57:01] High was before my time. Yeah.

[57:03] >> And I didn't really But I It was in

[57:04] black and white,

[57:05] >> but I was old enough to watch Baba Black

[57:07] Sheep.

[57:08] >> Loved it.

[57:09] >> Black Sheep Squadron, whatever that one.

[57:11] >> Yeah. Well, I I think they It was called

[57:13] both of those things.

[57:14] >> Bobby Conrad.

[57:15] >> I love Robert Conrad. He was a tough son

[57:17] of a gun, man. Why? Wild Wild West, man.

[57:19] >> Yeah. The Wild Wild I can still watch

[57:21] Wild Wild West.

[57:21] >> Wild Wild West. I love Absolutely. a

[57:24] great But but Bob Black Sheep was great.

[57:26] Papy Py Boington.

[57:29] Um, think about how just again

[57:32] interesting if it's got a good script.

[57:34] >> Yep.

[57:34] >> It doesn't matter.

[57:36] >> It doesn't,

[57:36] >> right? That's why those some of those

[57:38] old Star Treks hold up pretty well

[57:39] >> to me. Writing's everything. It really

[57:41] Yeah, because when you look at the

[57:42] special effects, some of the Star Trek

[57:44] stuff was a little bit lame, but the

[57:45] writing was so good on those darn

[57:46] things.

[57:47] >> That's why I like all the sta movies is

[57:48] all

[57:49] >> I don't think so, but

[57:52] >> All right. What's your first

[57:54] >> one is uh first one is the first Academy

[57:56] Award winner for best picture. wings. It

[57:59] was done in 1927. Mama.

[58:01] >> It's a World War uh World War I. Uh it's

[58:04] about these two fighter pilots uh who

[58:06] are very good friends and then fall in

[58:08] love with the same girl, but it really

[58:10] is centered on the the dog fights that

[58:13] they have. And it's amazing. This is a

[58:16] silent movie and it is amazing. It still

[58:19] holds up. I watched some scenes of it

[58:21] last night and it's amazing. I mean,

[58:23] what they were able to do. Think about

[58:25] this. in 1927. They're they're they're

[58:28] shooting dog fight scenes. I mean, it's

[58:31] amazing. It it was really really well

[58:33] done. And it stars Clara Bo and uh uh

[58:36] Charles Buddy Rogers, but it 94% by the

[58:40] experts on Rotten Tomatoes. They just

[58:42] think it's great. 79% by the audience.

[58:44] So, that's saying a lot because usually

[58:47] silent films just get get destroyed in

[58:50] the ratings and this one still holds up.

[58:52] So, the first Academy Award-winning film

[58:55] Wings. Yeah.

[58:56] >> Um, do you uh what's I don't know if

[58:59] it's on your list, so I don't want to

[59:00] like cramp your style,

[59:01] >> but it it's related to this, right? So,

[59:03] what's the what's the Howard Hughes

[59:04] film?

[59:05] >> Is that Hell's Angels?

[59:07] >> It's the one.

[59:07] >> Uh, it's not on my list, but I I don't

[59:10] remember.

[59:10] >> Howard I think someone just put it

[59:12] Howard. And the reason I bring this up

[59:13] again is the idea that it was that early

[59:16] film.

[59:17] >> Yeah.

[59:17] >> Right. Uh, about planes. Okay. Hold on.

[59:21] It's got to be Hell's Angels, isn't it?

[59:22] >> Yeah, it's Hell's Angels.

[59:24] >> Okay. And so the reason I want to bring

[59:25] this up real quick is just the idea that

[59:28] Howard

[59:29] >> had the money

[59:31] >> to do something like this,

[59:33] >> right?

[59:34] >> He had the money to do a lot of stuff.

[59:35] >> Absolutely.

[59:36] >> The the what it was the Spruce Goose.

[59:38] >> Yeah. Spruce Goose. But it was the idea

[59:40] that he was so and you'll see it in the

[59:43] movie The Aviator, right, with with

[59:44] Leonardo DiCaprio.

[59:46] >> He was so obsessed. Yeah. at that time

[59:50] that he wanted and he did it. He had

[59:52] guys on

[59:54] >> he's coordinating like your wings movie,

[59:56] right? Right.

[59:56] >> Guys flying around in other planes with

[59:59] these oldtime cameras.

[60:00] >> I know. Thinking it's amazing

[60:02] >> this kind of stuff.

[60:03] >> Yeah, it was really really something.

[60:05] >> Anyway, so I just cuz someone brought up

[60:06] Hell's Angels in the list uh Oh, Holden.

[60:10] Um but it it just made sense after your

[60:12] wings thing. So

[60:13] >> yeah, sure.

[60:13] >> And then Rex says, "As a kid, I had a

[60:15] Steve Canyon helmet." Is that the guy?

[60:18] >> I love Steve Canyon, man. I I had I had

[60:21] all the the books.

[60:22] >> He's He was uh I think it was Air Force.

[60:25] Uh

[60:28] >> I don't remember exact. This is a long

[60:29] time ago, but I Yeah,

[60:32] >> that was a long time ago. Steve Canyon.

[60:36] What? Who was you? Classic Cold War era

[60:40] military adventure television series

[60:43] from It was on from 58 to 50 58 to 59.

[60:47] >> I always look but but they showed it

[60:48] later on too. But but the thing is those

[60:51] were kind of like propaganda.

[60:54] Uh and as a as a little kid at that

[60:57] time, you know, you looked at something

[60:59] like that and it was almost like hero

[61:00] worship, you know.

[61:02] >> Absolutely. Uh, let's see. Uh, he was

[61:04] the commander of the Big Thunder Air

[61:06] Force base and an all-around military

[61:08] troubleshooter.

[61:09] >> There you go.

[61:10] >> Dean Frederick's played I don't even

[61:11] know what a Dean Frederick is. God bless

[61:13] him. But the premise is Canyon travels

[61:15] to different bases to handle high stakes

[61:17] missions, test flights, and crisis

[61:19] management while balancing everyday

[61:22] military and personal challenges.

[61:24] >> I had a couple of his Steve Canyon

[61:26] books, too.

[61:27] >> And it also is based on a popular comic

[61:29] strip.

[61:30] >> Yeah.

[61:30] >> Created by Milton. See, I'm learning

[61:32] today. I love I love Look at me. I'm

[61:34] learning. Be similar. I love learning.

[61:36] Love learning. Hey, we got to go to

[61:37] break. It's 7:01. We're hanging out with

[61:39] our good friend Mark Van Beern.

[61:40] >> Nine more to go.

[61:41] >> Absolutely. David Samarano a show 8:00.

[61:44] He's got a I think he's got one of the

[61:46] Morirana K9 officers. The dog better be

[61:48] here. Samano, we better have the dog

[61:50] here. And then Edgar Sodto, who I have

[61:52] to talk to Edgar on the show next week.

[61:54] He wanted to come on after I went after

[61:56] him. And I like Edgar, but his attacks

[61:58] on Chris King about public safety were

[62:01] mildly pathetic.

[62:02] >> But that's the way the game's played

[62:03] now.

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[66:02] >> You're listening to Wake Up with

[66:04] Christopher D. Simone on the Live the

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[66:23] I I love my new my new graphic there.

[66:24] looking off into the future.

[66:27] >> That's the Barrymore. That's the

[66:28] Barrymore pose.

[66:29] >> That's right.

[66:30] >> Don't you remember Curly and the Three

[66:32] Stooges? He he he's got this one profile

[66:34] picture and he goes, "Mo, I'm looking

[66:36] more like my like more and more like

[66:37] Barrymore." And he goes, "No, you're

[66:39] not."

[66:41] Well, welcome back. It's a Friday. I

[66:43] want to thank Ted and Shel for filling

[66:45] in for me yesterday while I was up in

[66:47] Phoenix. And then tomorrow is our live

[66:51] remote at the pumpkin patch in Morirana.

[66:54] >> Yep. So, we're praying that the winds

[66:55] will die down hopefully overnight. It

[66:57] should be a little breezy. Supposed to

[66:59] be overcast and like 72 tomorrow or

[67:01] something crazy like that.

[67:02] >> Yeah. I just wonder the winds die down.

[67:04] Is it

[67:05] >> supposedly overnight we're supposed to

[67:06] So hopefully we'll be good. But it'll

[67:08] still be great. So come out and see us

[67:10] at the pumpkin patch 9 to 11. Ron's

[67:12] going to be with me. Ron Arenas and then

[67:14] Sisammani is going to pop in by John

[67:17] Post cuz he owns the place will kick off

[67:19] the show with us. And Clint's coming on

[67:22] at 10 cuz him and Tammy are helping them

[67:24] with their food operations. He's going

[67:26] We're going to do like a food Saturday

[67:27] of the stuff that they have

[67:28] >> at the pumpkin patch. So,

[67:30] >> can you reveal any of the things that

[67:31] he's making or what's

[67:32] >> Well, they're doing like this. They're

[67:34] doing like smash burgers now out there.

[67:36] Okay.

[67:36] >> And then they're making these homemade

[67:38] like pumpkin pie tartlets that are

[67:40] supposedly

[67:41] >> pretty amazing.

[67:42] >> So, I do not want the wine slushie

[67:45] though. I will not.

[67:47] >> Do you remember? Well, you might be

[67:49] young young and remember this, but when

[67:51] I first started drinking when I was 18

[67:53] in New York, um sangria was the thing

[67:56] everybody did. Sangria. Oh, you got to

[67:57] have sangria. You go to a party and

[67:59] there sangria with all the fruit thrown

[68:00] in it and stuff and I go, "This is

[68:02] awful. I never liked it."

[68:04] >> So, you'll you'll you we're going to go

[68:06] back on the way back machine. We'll

[68:07] never get to these damn movies today. Uh

[68:09] Beef Steak Charlie's. Remember Beef

[68:12] Steak Charlie?

[68:12] >> I do. Actually, that was the first

[68:15] restaurant I ever went to in New York

[68:17] City.

[68:18] We I visited with with a a couple of

[68:21] college classmates and we were down

[68:22] there. We went to Beef Steak Charlie's

[68:24] and I'll never forget it. Listen to

[68:26] this. So, we were young kids.

[68:28] >> They were big on sangria.

[68:29] >> Yeah. But we were young kids and we

[68:31] didn't know what the hell we were doing.

[68:32] So, basically, we came up and so the

[68:34] server comes back with with our bill. Uh

[68:38] my buddy hit gave him a credit card and

[68:41] uh she goes, "I put 20 oh I think it was

[68:44] 15%. I put 15% down uh for a tip. I

[68:48] mean, she she was that forward about the

[68:50] whole thing. And we were just sitting

[68:51] there going like, "What?"

[68:53] >> So, we went to the first and last time

[68:55] we went to a beef steak Charlie's cuz

[68:57] they were known for their salad bar and

[68:59] all you can eat shrimp.

[69:00] >> Yeah.

[69:00] >> Right. And so, we get up there and you

[69:02] put a hurt on them.

[69:03] >> It's the No, it's the smallest shrimp.

[69:05] Whatever the the shrimp that's the next

[69:07] size above a big

[69:08] >> I make I make like a shrimp salad and I

[69:10] I buy those little shrimp and that's

[69:12] pretty good. But yeah, I know what

[69:13] you're talking about.

[69:14] >> Do you know that the shrimp rings now

[69:15] have blue? Uh

[69:16] >> I do. I do. I every every time I see

[69:19] something new with the shrimp ring, I I

[69:21] take a picture and send it to you.

[69:23] >> It's part of the lore of this show.

[69:24] People said he'd be shrimping. Uh Bruce

[69:27] Ash, Steve Canyon was awesome. He flew

[69:29] an F1 F104 and based on a comic strip.

[69:33] >> Yeah,

[69:34] >> let's just pull the band-aid off. Sorry

[69:35] that your Dodgers suck so bad against

[69:37] the

[69:37] >> That was a very bad showing. But I'll

[69:40] tell you what, the Brewers are the real

[69:42] deal, man. I I I look for them to win

[69:44] the whole thing. They they are really

[69:46] they won more games than anybody in

[69:47] baseball and they're they were solid. I

[69:49] >> I think it was I think it was on Mad

[69:50] Dog. They were talking about the Dodgers

[69:53] starting P staff makes $90 million a

[69:55] year and the total, right, and the

[69:58] Brewers makes $3 million. Well, you

[70:00] know, there's probably going to be a

[70:00] lockout next year and the the the bone

[70:03] of contention for that is um the owners

[70:06] want a salary cap, a hard salary cap.

[70:09] And and the players like, "Why do you

[70:11] want a hard salary cap?" He goes,

[70:13] "You're probably going to have two teams

[70:15] in the World Series this year that have

[70:18] some of the lowest payrolls and they're

[70:20] able to win when you got the Dodgers and

[70:22] the Mets and the Yankees all sitting on

[70:24] the outside." So, it's just like, why

[70:26] would you want to do that? Well, the

[70:29] reason football works so well, the NFL,

[70:32] because there's parody built into the

[70:34] thing. And the fact of the matter is

[70:35] there is a hard salary cap and you can't

[70:38] go over it. And so that works. Um, and

[70:41] it really evens the playing field. So,

[70:43] >> non-g guaranteed contracts in the NFL is

[70:45] also part of their Now, they pay crazy

[70:47] salaries for some of these quarterbacks,

[70:49] but if you suck, they just got to wait

[70:51] till the end of the year and they can

[70:52] get rid of you.

[70:52] >> Yeah, I know. It's just it's crazy. So,

[70:55] it it's

[70:56] >> no Bobby Bonia deals in the NFL.

[70:58] >> No. And and the other sport news I'll

[71:00] give you is that I just read this coming

[71:02] in where uh 24 um uh it looks like the

[71:06] NCA is going to come up with a 24 and I

[71:09] said this I said this like 10 years ago.

[71:11] They they're going to come up with a 24

[71:14] uh playoff team concept. And I said they

[71:16] should have done that a long long time

[71:18] ago.

[71:18] >> I did see the u

[71:20] >> Yeah.

[71:20] >> Uh the Billboard when I was in Phoenix.

[71:22] >> Yeah. Uh uh Bidwells, please sell the

[71:25] Cardinals.

[71:26] >> They raised enough money on a GoFundMe

[71:28] to buy the the billboards. So, it'll be

[71:31] fun. They'll get there one day. Uh

[71:32] anyway, I don't think so.

[71:33] >> We're doing aerial combat movies with

[71:35] our friend

[71:35] >> and I just the the next one I'm excited

[71:37] about because I saw it this week and uh

[71:40] it's called Fly Boys. It stars James

[71:43] Franco. Again, another World War I film

[71:48] about dog fights. Um I loved it. You can

[71:51] see it on Tuby and it's basically uh

[71:54] what what happened is in World War I a

[71:58] lot of the allies including France were

[72:00] getting wiped out like all these guys

[72:02] were dying. So the America wasn't in the

[72:05] war yet. So they were trying to recruit

[72:07] Americans to come over and they they

[72:08] they show advertisements in movie

[72:11] theaters and they put ads in newspapers

[72:13] and stuff. Well, James Franco's one of

[72:15] these guys. He's he's in Texas and uh

[72:18] his ranch is getting repossessed. So he

[72:20] decides, you know what? I'm going over

[72:22] to France and I'm going to learn how to

[72:24] fly. So these guys come over and uh the

[72:27] the name of the group, it's it's a real

[72:30] a real group was Lafayette Escadril.

[72:34] And these guys go over there, learn how

[72:36] to fly, and then they put them up. And

[72:39] their first mission is abt intense. I

[72:43] mean, they're in this dog fight. They

[72:44] got anti-aircraft uh you know, things

[72:47] being shot at them. It's it's absolutely

[72:50] amazing. And the story is really good,

[72:52] too. Uh there's a little bit of romance

[72:54] in it, but uh these guys were absolutely

[72:56] amazing. And again, you're you're

[72:58] looking at very new technology and you

[73:01] know, and the equipment just wasn't that

[73:03] good. And and one of the things they

[73:05] used to do with the pilots is they would

[73:08] hand them a hammer and they would give

[73:10] them a revolver. And so the new guys are

[73:13] asking, "Well, what's this for?" And

[73:15] they said, "Well, the the hammer is

[73:17] sometimes your bullets gets gets locked

[73:20] up and you got you got to bang on the uh

[73:22] you got to bang on the machine gun to to

[73:24] to loosen it up

[73:26] >> um so it'll work." And they go, "What's

[73:28] the revolver for?" And they go, "Well,

[73:30] you know, if you get hit and you're

[73:32] wounded and your plane's on fire and

[73:34] you're, you know, you're 3,000 ft in the

[73:36] air, um

[73:37] >> blow your brains out."

[73:38] >> Yeah. Yeah. That's what it is. I mean,

[73:41] think about how precar think about how

[73:44] precarious it is to do fight any sort of

[73:46] aerial combat even today.

[73:48] >> Mhm.

[73:49] >> When you're in these rickety old pieces

[73:51] of crap,

[73:51] >> it was unbelievable. It really these

[73:53] guys were true heroes. And for them to

[73:55] go up over and over and over again, it

[73:58] was amazing. And one of the guys

[74:00] actually, you know, he he comes down

[74:02] with he's having fits and he can't go up

[74:04] anymore because it's just like the

[74:05] stress level is like it's it's

[74:08] incomprehensible. It's unbelievable. You

[74:10] know, for some of you, you're saying

[74:11] your introduction to this was like the

[74:12] Steve Canyon thing when you were a kid.

[74:14] For me, it was Snoopy flying a Soph

[74:17] camel. Just let everyone know that. So,

[74:19] back to the classics, baby. What's your

[74:21] next one?

[74:22] >> Uh, the next one is Tuskegee Airman and,

[74:25] uh, this is this is a Lawrence Fishburn

[74:29] film and it was released in 1995. You

[74:32] can see it on Max. Um, what I love about

[74:34] all these films, you can almost see them

[74:36] on everything. There's they're streaming

[74:37] on everything. And um it was 88% on

[74:40] Rotten Tomatoes and ju just a great uh

[74:43] documentary and I think they do a great

[74:45] job, you know, really depicting what

[74:48] these guys went through. They they they

[74:50] train in Tuskegee, Alabama. Um obviously

[74:54] there's a lot of prejudice because

[74:55] they're all black Americans and that

[74:57] type of thing and they didn't think they

[74:58] could fly planes and these guys ended up

[75:00] being heroes and really, really, really

[75:03] good pilots and uh I think they do a

[75:05] great job with this film.

[75:06] >> It's interesting. So, this is HBO Fleck

[75:08] originally. Okay.

[75:10] >> But I'm looking at the um

[75:13] the cast.

[75:15] >> I kind of know like almost everyone in

[75:17] this cast, right?

[75:18] >> From like they were either a star

[75:20] before. So, Malcolm Jamal is in this,

[75:22] right?

[75:23] >> But Courtney Vance, right? So, Courtney

[75:25] Vance is one of the DAs on Law and

[75:27] Order. He was the preacher and the

[75:29] preachers's wife with Denzel Washington.

[75:31] >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[75:31] >> Right. Yeah. Andrea Brower, of course,

[75:34] was on uh that that comedy show with

[75:37] Andy Samberg and the Chief, the other

[75:40] one. Uh Christopher McDonald, of course,

[75:43] is Shooter McGawan for

[75:45] >> Oh, that's right. That's right. Yeah,

[75:47] you're right.

[75:48] >> Uh Mecky Feifer, I think that's uh Bubba

[75:51] Gump, right? Lithggo, and then Cuba

[75:53] Gooding Jr.'s in this. Yeah, I think

[75:56] Cuba Gooding Jr. It is a good cast, but

[75:58] it it it I read a lot of different

[76:00] reviews and they just said, "Geez, they

[76:02] really really captured what what these

[76:04] guys went through, you know, it's

[76:06] amazing."

[76:07] >> Always fascinated, you know, when I when

[76:09] we talk about this any of these movies.

[76:11] >> Yeah.

[76:12] >> And now I was looking at Fly Boys and it

[76:15] reviews are mixed on Fly Boys.

[76:17] >> I you know what though, and I'm I'm

[76:18] being really honest. I didn't look at

[76:20] the reviews. I just watched the movie.

[76:22] That's what I want.

[76:22] >> And I love I I absolutely love the film.

[76:25] And they can criticize it all they want.

[76:27] The the the the aerial scenes are

[76:30] phenomenal. And I I like the story. I

[76:33] thought the story was really good.

[76:34] >> The um I wanted to um

[76:38] >> when we look I always love the

[76:39] difference between the uh fans and the

[76:41] we always the fans and the critics. So

[76:43] >> uh not too bad on Tuske Tuskegee. Uh 88

[76:47] on the review.

[76:48] >> 79. Yeah.

[76:48] >> 79. So

[76:50] >> yeah. Um, I I like it. I like this movie

[76:52] a lot.

[76:53] >> I like it a lot, too.

[76:54] >> What's your next one? Ne

[76:54] >> next one I also like a lot. I saw it the

[76:57] opening week that it came out was

[76:58] Dunkirk. And uh you don't really think

[77:00] of it as an aerial film because it was

[77:02] about these guys being, you know,

[77:04] trapped. Uh but it was an aerial film

[77:07] because they needed to have they needed

[77:09] to to protect these guys from uh the

[77:12] Luftwaffa in World War II. they had

[77:15] because they would have just taken them

[77:17] out on the beach um you know with with

[77:20] all these strikes and uh and so the RAF

[77:23] and the Americans were uh protecting

[77:25] them you know from above and uh really

[77:28] really good movie uh you know I I just

[77:32] was really I actually saw that movie

[77:34] twice because I I liked it that much. I

[77:37] thought it was really a good depiction

[77:39] of what was going on at that time. And

[77:41] of course, everybody was really um I

[77:44] think when you watch the film and

[77:45] realize that all these fishing boats and

[77:48] everything came to rescue these guys, uh

[77:50] civilians and stuff, it was pretty an

[77:52] amazing film.

[77:53] >> So, this is a Christopher Nolan,

[77:55] >> right,

[77:56] >> film.

[77:56] >> Yep.

[77:57] >> And what's really awesome about this um

[77:59] I I was just reading that it was the

[78:02] until they call, of course, Oppenheimer

[78:05] a World War II movie, which is also his

[78:06] a Nolan film, right?

[78:08] >> Yeah. Yeah,

[78:08] >> but World War II movie. This was the

[78:11] highest grossing

[78:13] >> World War II movie at the time.

[78:15] >> Yeah.

[78:16] >> I said until Oppenheimer came around,

[78:18] right? So, this made a half of $530

[78:20] million worldwide, making the highest

[78:23] gross until that. And

[78:25] >> this was I remember seeing the trailer

[78:27] and being pumped.

[78:28] >> Yeah. It's it's one of those movies that

[78:30] really makes you feel good about what

[78:32] what we were doing over there and and

[78:35] how everybody came together and, you

[78:37] know, it wasn't just a military thing.

[78:39] Like I said, a lot of civilians got

[78:40] involved with the thing and um it really

[78:43] it made you feel good about what they

[78:45] were doing.

[78:46] >> I thought um Mark Ryance, right, he was

[78:50] the dad

[78:51] >> with a with the boat.

[78:52] >> Yeah.

[78:53] >> I mean, he was

[78:54] >> Yeah, pretty bad. It was a very moving

[78:57] film and and you can see this on Apple

[78:59] TV right now. So,

[79:00] >> well, the other thing too is right is

[79:01] Nolan's very doesn't like to use a lot

[79:03] of uh CGI in his stuff.

[79:06] >> So,

[79:06] >> which I I admire that too because I I

[79:09] think that's the easy way out a lot of

[79:10] times. And I and I think when when

[79:12] you're really trying to shoot live film,

[79:15] um it really shows up well on the

[79:17] screen.

[79:18] >> Uh the other thing is Tom Hardy is one

[79:20] of the pilots. I don't think you ever I

[79:22] don't think his mask ever comes off his

[79:24] air mask. Yeah, it's kind of tough to

[79:26] recognize who it is,

[79:27] >> which is okay. I mean, I like the idea

[79:28] that they were

[79:30] >> I saw the same thing in Fly Boys. A lot

[79:32] of times I go, is that James Franco or

[79:33] not? I can't tell because he's got the

[79:35] mask on and everything. So,

[79:36] >> Yep. So, again, uh you can't you can't

[79:39] go wrong with uh D.

[79:40] >> Oh, another thing about the M on the

[79:42] research. So, when these guys wore the

[79:44] mask, they they had it wasn't plastic,

[79:46] so they had glass uh over the thing. And

[79:50] a lot of times what would happen if

[79:51] there was an explosion of some sort on

[79:54] the the glass would break and blind

[79:57] them. You know, it it's just it was so

[79:59] perilous for these guys. It was just

[80:01] amazing. They were true heroes.

[80:02] >> I'm sure there's got to be some good

[80:04] documentary series on that was done by

[80:07] about the kind of the history of the

[80:09] development of aerial combat over the

[80:11] years.

[80:11] >> But when you think about it, it came

[80:13] fast and furious. I mean, can you

[80:15] imagine they just put a machine gun on

[80:16] there and said, "Well, the propeller

[80:19] will be okay."

[80:20] >> Really?

[80:21] >> Uh Pat Hirs, I remember Steve Canyon. Uh

[80:24] Murf 88. He I don't think this is on

[80:26] your uh list. He has Dr. Strange Club.

[80:29] >> No, it didn't make the list.

[80:31] >> Slim Dickens and a B-52 Strato Fortress.

[80:33] Reading the contents of his survival

[80:35] kit. Quote, "Fella could have a heck of

[80:37] a time in Vegas." And he says,

[80:38] "Honorable mention." Uh Pat, hold on.

[80:42] Um,

[80:43] umpire John, our A-10 pilot, 12:00 high,

[80:46] was used by the Air Force to train

[80:49] leadership.

[80:50] >> I actually uh taught service classes and

[80:53] management classes for Marriott. I went

[80:55] around the whole country and did that

[80:57] and really enjoyed it. And the the

[81:00] number one aid I had was showing clips

[81:03] of 12:00 High because it has some of the

[81:06] best leadership

[81:08] um examples there possibly could be. And

[81:10] I'm going to talk about that film

[81:11] because it is on my list.

[81:14] >> Um, just on the on the FA, I just want

[81:16] to catch up on live chat. Bev, yes. On

[81:18] Josh running against Rick Scott. Uh,

[81:20] Mike, uh, they keep dumbing down our

[81:22] education system. Kids can't budget,

[81:23] can't think for themselves, and are more

[81:25] and more entitled.

[81:27] Yes.

[81:30] And then, Bev, I have the DVD for 12:00.

[81:32] There's some good things happening in

[81:34] education in the country though because

[81:36] I told you about Louisiana and I believe

[81:38] Alabama are both uh putting some new

[81:41] things in their curriculums and they

[81:43] have seen some miraculous improvement.

[81:46] And so I think everybody needs to start

[81:49] taking a look at that kind of stuff and

[81:50] and get back to the basics.

[81:52] >> It's about the will.

[81:53] >> Yeah.

[81:54] >> To go back to the basics and admit maybe

[81:57] this is the hard part, right? Because

[81:58] pride's a hell.

[81:59] >> We were wrong.

[82:00] >> Yeah. You know, and to me talking about

[82:02] leadership again, isn't a great leader

[82:05] one of those people that can say, you

[82:07] know what, I made a mistake or there's a

[82:10] better way to do this and let's go in

[82:13] that direction. And that takes a real

[82:15] leader to be able to do that. And

[82:16] unfortunately, we have a lot of people

[82:18] in polit politics today that are not.

[82:21] >> I remember uh old tourism commission. I

[82:24] don't remember there. Anyway,

[82:26] >> what's your next movie? Uh, next one up

[82:28] is uh, Behind Enemy Lines. And this was

[82:30] kind of as a sleeper for me. I I

[82:32] remember seeing it. Um, the reviews

[82:34] aren't the greatest on this, but I I

[82:36] actually think Owen Wilson is in this

[82:38] and is probably his best movie. And I'm

[82:41] not a big fan of his. Right. What? But,

[82:43] but I think Owen Wilson is very good in

[82:46] this. He plays a pilot, a US Navy pilot

[82:48] in World War II. and uh he gets shot

[82:52] down uh over Bosnia and he has to make

[82:55] it back to um he has to make it back uh

[82:59] to survive, right? And Gene Hackman uh

[83:03] is is going against orders and he's

[83:07] trying to rescue this guy. And uh it's

[83:10] it's an amazing film. I I really really

[83:12] like it a lot. Uh you can see it on

[83:14] Paramount Plus. the um so of course Jean

[83:18] Hackman

[83:20] >> Jean Hackman is just I I think he's

[83:22] solid in almost anything I've ever seen

[83:24] him in when you really when you go back

[83:26] to French Connection and Hooers and all

[83:28] that stuff. He's just a really

[83:29] >> I know we've done a Gene Hackman day.

[83:31] >> Yeah, we did. And

[83:33] >> it's hard to find a film that he's bad

[83:34] in. I

[83:35] >> I don't think he is bad because he could

[83:37] be in a bad film but be good in it.

[83:39] >> I mean he's the guy who classes up the

[83:41] Superman movie with Christopher Ree.

[83:43] >> Oh, big time. Yeah, I agree.

[83:45] >> Right. Christopher Reeve was an

[83:46] excellent Superman, don't get me wrong,

[83:48] but I'm just saying

[83:48] >> yeah,

[83:49] >> Jean Hackman was he's just always so

[83:51] good. And um

[83:53] >> and so it's interesting. So very I mean

[83:55] this is I mean it was it was it was

[83:57] timely, right? It's the idea that um the

[83:59] Bosnian war was still fresh in people's

[84:02] memory, right? And there really aren't

[84:03] that many movies about Americanmade

[84:06] movies at least about anything related

[84:08] to the Bosnian war.

[84:09] >> No.

[84:10] >> Right. What was the year?

[84:11] >> This came out in 2001.

[84:12] >> Yeah.

[84:13] >> Yeah.

[84:13] >> Right. So a few years later this thing

[84:15] come and again Owen William Owen will

[84:18] Wil Wilson

[84:19] >> I I think he's one of the most overrated

[84:21] actors there is like I said I think he's

[84:23] good in this but I have seen him and on

[84:25] many things and I'm always dis like I

[84:27] I'll give you another example Marley and

[84:29] me I think he was so miscast for that

[84:31] movie it was unbelievable just just

[84:34] terrible but um like I said he was very

[84:37] good in this

[84:38] >> never act with dogs I think WG's animals

[84:40] and kids

[84:41] >> well that's a WC Fields thing yeah you I

[84:43] think uh if I if I was going to tell you

[84:45] right now um an Owen Wilson role that I

[84:49] like him in.

[84:49] >> Okay.

[84:50] >> And there aren't that many.

[84:51] >> Shoot.

[84:51] >> It's um it's it's a Wes Anderson. It's

[84:54] the one Life Aquatic where he plays Oh,

[84:56] yeah. Bill Murray's uh

[84:58] >> Possible Son.

[85:00] >> They're kind of funny together. So that

[85:02] that's all I'll say there. So,

[85:04] >> uh let's do one more and then we got to

[85:05] go to break.

[85:05] >> All right. Top Gun Maverick. I had to

[85:07] put these in there. U actually we can do

[85:10] them both. Top Gun and Top Gun Maverick.

[85:11] You put them in as separate.

[85:13] >> Yeah, I put them in a separate. But but

[85:15] the thing is you can see Top Gun

[85:16] Maverick on Netflix and uh Top Gun

[85:18] Paramount Plus. Top Gun I loved because

[85:21] of the time that it came out. It came

[85:23] out in '86 and I I was really pumped

[85:26] watching it. I I probably seen it a half

[85:28] a dozen times. I thought it was just a

[85:30] really really good film about about uh

[85:34] Tom Cruz plays Pete Mitchell and uh he

[85:37] he's uh his the guy he goes up against

[85:41] all the time is Val Kilmer because Val

[85:42] Kilmer is this coolcom collected pilot

[85:45] and and uh and and Maverick is is play

[85:49] played by uh played by Cruz is this guy

[85:52] who's reckless abandoned and doesn't

[85:55] always follow the rules and that type of

[85:57] thing. But it really I think I think the

[85:59] fight scenes in it are the yeah the

[86:01] aerial fight scenes in it are very very

[86:03] good and uh it always gets me pumped. I

[86:06] think the music in it is also very very

[86:08] good. It's 83% on Rotten Tomatoes by the

[86:10] audience and I just uh I really liked it

[86:12] a lot. Kelly McGillis was the uh was the

[86:16] romantic um person in it with Tom Cruz.

[86:20] >> This movie

[86:21] >> Yes. just hit there's like there there's

[86:24] a there's um

[86:25] >> there's a know your audience timing

[86:28] Yeah.

[86:29] >> like thing here, right?

[86:30] >> It's perfect.

[86:31] >> You're right.

[86:32] >> So, we got Reagan.

[86:34] >> Yeah.

[86:34] >> Right. We're coming out of the demise,

[86:36] the the the the 70s and the Carter crap,

[86:39] right?

[86:40] >> People are making money. We got a cold

[86:43] war thing going on, right? Yeah.

[86:47] >> America

[86:48] >> against Russia. USSR,

[86:51] right? The the the country national

[86:53] pride was hot and heavy

[86:55] >> big time,

[86:55] >> right? But then you said about the the

[86:57] soundtrack was very important, right?

[86:59] >> It was fantastic.

[87:00] >> So I mean, yes, did Kenny Loggins do

[87:03] some great songs. It's true. But this

[87:06] song defined the movie,

[87:09] >> right? And it got you pumped for the

[87:11] movie.

[87:12] >> No question about it.

[87:13] >> Right. Whoever Whoever I'm sure Kenny

[87:15] wrote it, he writes a lot of his own

[87:16] songs, but you never know. Yeah. But

[87:18] even just the beginning 10 seconds of

[87:21] Danger Zone, right? But then all the mu

[87:24] that that soundtrack sold a truckload.

[87:26] >> Oh, big time,

[87:27] >> right? Yeah.

[87:28] >> And then even the Top Gun Anthem, you

[87:30] know, with the guitars with Harold

[87:32] Fultmire. Yeah.

[87:34] You're like, "Yeah, let's go." Right.

[87:37] >> Everything about the movie I just really

[87:39] love. And and a couple of years ago, we

[87:40] were on a cruise and this guy that was

[87:42] giving some talks on the cruise was was

[87:44] basically the uh production manager uh

[87:48] on on on tours for Fleetwood Mack. Very

[87:52] interesting guy. Had very had several

[87:55] conversations with him. But guess what

[87:58] he said? Bringing it back to Top Gun.

[88:01] The house that Tom Cruz pulls up in his

[88:04] motorcycle

[88:06] with to meet Kelly McGillis, she's

[88:08] living there, is that guy's house, the

[88:11] actual guy. And he said, he goes,

[88:14] "That'll be," he goes, "That's one of

[88:15] the most popular movies there is." And

[88:17] so many people have come to me and

[88:18] wanted to buy my house, and I'll never

[88:20] sell it. So, it was just kind of cool

[88:22] for me, but just a great movie.

[88:24] >> So, my before we go, so Maverick.

[88:26] >> Yeah.

[88:26] >> Right. Again, timing is everything.

[88:29] >> Yeah. They delayed the release of this

[88:32] movie.

[88:32] >> Uhhuh.

[88:33] >> Right. Because it was COVID time, right?

[88:36] >> But we were just kind of coming out of

[88:37] CO. This was like the first movie that I

[88:40] went to go see.

[88:41] >> Oh, in the movie theater. Yeah. Yeah.

[88:43] Yeah. Yeah. So, I I think actually this

[88:46] movie is the Maverick movie is rated

[88:48] higher. Um I think some of the

[88:51] maneuverability and the the the the

[88:53] things the stunts that they had to do

[88:55] going through the mountains and all that

[88:56] kind of stuff was just really really

[88:58] interesting for a lot of people. And I

[88:59] think those scenes that the way they

[89:01] shot them were it was fantastic.

[89:02] >> The story is actually worse in Maverick

[89:05] than the first one. I think personally

[89:07] >> I

[89:07] >> Right. It's so trit. Right. The idea of

[89:10] going Think about this. They got to go

[89:12] down a canyon.

[89:13] >> Yeah.

[89:13] >> And they have to make an impossible

[89:15] missile hit into a hole.

[89:16] >> Right. And then they got to climb out

[89:19] without hitting a mountain.

[89:20] >> Episode 4, the first Star Wars.

[89:22] >> Well, right. I'm not of course.

[89:26] >> Here's the other thing about Maverick.

[89:27] >> Yeah. and the culture. All right.

[89:30] >> Yeah.

[89:30] >> We were getting so sick of the DEI of

[89:34] Hollywood.

[89:35] >> Right.

[89:36] >> Right. This ignored all that.

[89:38] >> Right.

[89:39] >> Right. There were white guys running

[89:41] around on blowing up crap on planes.

[89:44] >> Right.

[89:44] >> Right. Which after Marvel and Star Wars

[89:47] was feminizing, deeying everything,

[89:50] okay, there was part of America that

[89:51] said, "I just want to watch guys in

[89:53] planes blowing crap up." Well, there you

[89:57] go. That's what it is.

[89:58] >> And that's what happened.

[89:59] >> And people loved it.

[90:01] >> So, all right.

[90:01] >> 99% by the audience

[90:04] >> for Maverick.

[90:05] >> Yes.

[90:05] >> That's insane.

[90:06] >> Yeah. And only 83% for Top Gun. But,

[90:09] >> uh, holidays today, it's, uh, National

[90:13] Mamography Day.

[90:14] >> Mimography Day.

[90:16] >> Get your mamogram.

[90:16] >> Yeah.

[90:17] >> Uh, National Department Store Day.

[90:20] >> Yeah. Good luck with that.

[90:23] >> National Dictionary Day. Good luck with

[90:25] all that.

[90:26] Hey, I still pull mine out every once in

[90:28] a while.

[90:29] >> National Learn a Word Day

[90:32] and World Bread Day.

[90:36] >> Like bread.

[90:38] >> Wish I didn't like it so much, but you

[90:40] know,

[90:40] >> as Jacqu Pap once said, the French chef

[90:43] guy.

[90:44] >> Yeah, love him.

[90:45] >> There's nothing better than a really

[90:46] good baked bread with just butter on.

[90:48] >> I don't know if you've seen his I don't

[90:49] know if you've seen his videos on

[90:50] YouTube. He's fantastic. the I watched

[90:54] him make an omelette the other day and

[90:56] it was just like so simple and so well

[90:58] done and it's just like yeah that's the

[91:00] way it is.

[91:01] >> Jaca, he's fantastic chef.

[91:03] >> All right, we're going to go to break.

[91:04] Uh Bruce, thanks for rubbing it in. The

[91:06] positive way is the UFA game started at

[91:08] 808 last night. Thank you. With his

[91:11] Dodgers getting rolled by a bunch of

[91:14] >> they got rolled

[91:14] >> beer drinkers. Hey, you can't win them

[91:16] all, man. Two in a row they won, you

[91:18] know.

[91:18] >> Well, the best team money could buy, as

[91:20] we like to say.

[91:21] >> Absolutely. All right, another segment

[91:22] with our good friend Mark. And uh

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[95:45] Oh,

[95:48] perfect words just said. Mark looks like

[95:50] Bennett surf from

[95:53] >> I mean I've seen some clips of Kitty

[95:55] Carile and you know uh what the hell was

[95:58] his name?

[96:01] >> I don't know who that is.

[96:03] >> I

[96:09] don't know who that is though.

[96:10] >> That's Bennett Surf.

[96:11] >> No, I know. What the Who was he?

[96:14] >> Bennett Surf. I don't know either.

[96:16] >> He's a high society guy or something.

[96:18] American writer. Oh, co-founder of uh

[96:22] Random House Books.

[96:24] >> Oh, okay. 1898 to 1971.

[96:28] Bennett Surf. I think you're much more

[96:30] handsome than

[96:30] >> Carly Simon was uh came from a very

[96:33] wealthy family in publishing. So,

[96:36] >> I think you're much regularly more

[96:38] handsome.

[96:38] >> Thank you.

[96:39] >> Than this Bennett surf. But thank you

[96:42] for bringing that to us, our lovely

[96:44] viewers and listeners. Uh, do you have

[96:47] uh Battle of Britain on your list?

[96:49] >> No, I got three left.

[96:50] >> I was going to say Battle of Britain's

[96:51] coming up hard several times.

[96:53] >> I can see that. Like I said, I I tried

[96:56] to focus in mostly on the aerial scenes,

[96:59] right? Yeah. So, uh, my next one up is

[97:01] Memphis Bell. And this is a this is a

[97:03] B17 bomber film about, uh, basically the

[97:07] Memphis Bell, kind of a based on a true

[97:09] story type thing where, uh, they've

[97:12] they're on their 25th mission, which is

[97:14] going to be the last mission before

[97:15] they, uh, before they retire.

[97:18] >> This was the picture I used to promote

[97:19] this on Facebook today, was Memphis.

[97:22] >> Okay. All right. Well, it's a good

[97:24] flick. Uh, stars Matthew Modí. It came

[97:26] out in 1990 and Eric Stoultz is in it as

[97:30] well. DB Sweeney, one of my favorites. I

[97:33] I was looking at this and I go, DB

[97:35] Sweeney is just one of those guys. I

[97:36] wish he had done more things because I

[97:38] think he was a very talented actor, but

[97:40] it just never materialized for him, I

[97:42] guess. But, you know, he he he's kind of

[97:45] like uh Ben Affleck without being a

[97:47] jerk, right? You know, he's got he looks

[97:50] good. He's got a good he's got a good

[97:52] onscreen presence. And he does. If you

[97:54] said Chris, what's the last movie you

[97:55] remember DB? I I forgot he was even in

[97:57] Memphis.

[97:58] >> Ice skating movie,

[97:59] >> right? Cutting edge.

[98:00] >> Yeah. Yeah. Which I liked, but you know,

[98:02] like I said, I think he's a talented.

[98:03] But this is about their la their last uh

[98:06] their last mission and uh you know, it's

[98:08] perilous and they have this bombing

[98:10] mission and it's very strategic and

[98:12] they're getting a lot of pressure from

[98:14] the brass to make sure that this is a

[98:16] successful thing. And it's uh it's a

[98:18] pretty amazing film. this uh I remember

[98:21] when this movie ca came out it was very

[98:23] very big and it had a hell I mean with

[98:26] this cast again there's John Lithkow

[98:29] again he's he's always in those days he

[98:31] was playing every military uh colonel

[98:33] and who's

[98:34] >> he's just got he's got that kind of

[98:35] charisma you know

[98:36] >> so Stoultz Sean Aston right and Sam Gam

[98:40] >> Oh yeah yeah

[98:40] >> Harry Kik Jr. It had to be you.

[98:44] Wonderful you.

[98:47] >> Tate Donovan Lithkow, DB Sweeney, Billy

[98:49] Zayn.

[98:52] This movie was this this this movie is a

[98:54] banger, right?

[98:55] >> It is.

[98:56] >> And you were talking about being the guy

[98:59] in the bottom bubble of these bombers.

[99:03] >> I like I said, that's almost like a

[99:06] death mission. It's just like that's

[99:08] terrible because I mean like you're a

[99:10] focal point for any any fighter jet any

[99:13] fighter plane going in and attacking the

[99:16] plane. It's it's the uh there's one of

[99:19] these suckers at the it's the one that's

[99:22] inside the building at Puma Airspace.

[99:26] Has its own building. It's like the

[99:27] 390th Fighting Squad one or whatever.

[99:29] >> Yeah.

[99:29] >> And in those days I got to crawl through

[99:32] it once cuz a buddy of mine worked

[99:34] there.

[99:34] >> Yeah. Let you go in it.

[99:35] >> Okay. First of all, it's not that big

[99:38] >> cramp, baby. And you're a big guy. Can

[99:40] you imagine being down in that thing?

[99:42] >> You

[99:42] >> It's claustrophobic.

[99:43] >> Yeah. You gotta be It's better if you're

[99:45] a widow fella in there than First of

[99:48] all, not just, you know, D Simmons big,

[99:50] but just the height thing.

[99:52] >> Yeah. It's No. And but I don't like the

[99:54] fact that you're locked in. That's just

[99:56] that, you know, I I'd rather be a tail

[99:58] gunner. I know those guys were kind of

[99:59] like fodder at times, too. But at least

[100:02] you're moving around. I think this movie

[100:03] now there's other movies that have

[100:04] talked about these kind of bomber

[100:05] missions and the dynamic. I thought this

[100:08] was the best in um

[100:11] um just the dynamics of what goes down

[100:13] in one of these like the reality of it.

[100:16] >> I thought this was the best film that

[100:18] depicted that. So

[100:19] >> I agree. This is definitely got to be I

[100:21] understand why it's in your top three.

[100:23] So

[100:23] >> what's your next one?

[100:24] >> Next one up is Tora Tora.

[100:26] >> This has been mentioned multiple times.

[100:27] 81% on Rotten Tomatoes and uh you know

[100:31] uh directed by Richard Flecher uh

[100:33] released in 1970. Martin Balsam and

[100:36] Joseph Cotton

[100:37] >> Martin Jason Roards I mean it's a good

[100:40] cast and you know it's it's uh you know

[100:44] it's it's about the events leading up

[100:48] into Pearl Harbor and how the Japanese

[100:51] were able to surprise us completely. And

[100:54] uh I think the reason I like the film so

[100:57] much, it isn't one-sided. So many times

[100:59] when you see a military film, it's just

[101:01] shot from the American perspective

[101:03] because it's an American film and you

[101:05] don't really get to see what the other

[101:07] guys are thinking and and quite honestly

[101:10] uh this one does a good job of giving a

[101:13] balanced approach to the whole thing and

[101:14] I think they did a really nice job with

[101:16] it. So

[101:17] >> again, one of the nice parts of Longest

[101:19] Day, right, is you're seeing it from the

[101:21] German perspective also. Absolutely.

[101:23] >> In German.

[101:25] >> Well, yeah. But but see that's the thing

[101:27] and like dos boots too. Same kind of

[101:29] thing. You see see both sides and it's

[101:32] kind of interesting to look at it from

[101:33] that perspective because we have a

[101:35] tendency of thinking well we're right

[101:37] because we're the Americans and we're

[101:38] going to win the war and all this stuff,

[101:39] but what about the other guys and what

[101:41] about you? But anyway, it's it's it's an

[101:44] interesting uh take on the whole thing

[101:47] and uh um certainly uh I think worth

[101:51] worth a view.

[101:53] >> Again, another again, Joseph, I forgot

[101:55] EG Marshall was in this too and James

[101:57] Whitmore.

[101:58] >> Yeah. I mean, you know, it's loaded with

[102:00] very talented actors.

[102:02] >> The uh what year was this again?

[102:03] >> 1970.

[102:04] >> It's got the classic Jerry Goldsmith

[102:06] soundtrack, so that makes total sense.

[102:08] >> Yep.

[102:09] >> I love it.

[102:10] >> Yeah.

[102:11] >> Very very cool. What's your number one?

[102:12] >> Top one is 12 o'clock high 96% on Rotten

[102:16] Tomatoes and just an absolutely great

[102:18] film. Gregory Peek, Dean Jagger, Gary

[102:22] Merrill. Uh just fantastic done in 1949.

[102:26] >> Dean Jagger, the inkeeper from White

[102:28] Christmas.

[102:29] >> Bingo. You're right. Uh another military

[102:32] kind of a military film. So, uh, and

[102:35] directed by Henry King, but it is, um,

[102:39] like I said, this this is the epitome of

[102:42] a leadership, uh, example of a a great

[102:46] leader. Gregory Peek comes in and this

[102:49] squadron is demoralized. They they've

[102:52] lost a lot of people. They they've

[102:54] almost like they've given up. They go

[102:56] into these pre-flight meetings and

[102:58] they're just kind of like dragon tail

[103:00] and just they're not happy. They're they

[103:02] feel just really really bad. Well, uh,

[103:06] Gregory Peek comes in and he goes,

[103:09] "That's enough of this stuff. We're

[103:11] going to follow the rules and

[103:12] regulation." He's very strict. And they

[103:15] initially they resent the heck out of

[103:17] him, right? But what happens is all of a

[103:20] sudden he starts getting him to conform

[103:22] and act like a real squadron again. And

[103:25] now and and he he puts the screws to him

[103:28] and he gets he gets the most he could

[103:30] possibly get out of a group and he turns

[103:32] it totally around and it is so good and

[103:35] uh it is definitely worth a watch it

[103:38] it's a life lesson thing and you can I

[103:41] think when you watch the film and you

[103:43] look at it from a leadership perspective

[103:45] what happens is you realize that I have

[103:48] worked for some people like that and

[103:50] then I have worked for people who were

[103:51] horrible leaders right and and So, um I

[103:55] I it is it is a great film. Even though

[103:58] it's 1949, it holds up. Uh the bombing

[104:01] missions are really really good and and

[104:04] again uh there's a lot of great scenes

[104:06] with tail gunners in this thing and uh

[104:08] it's definitely worth a view. So, when

[104:11] you said when you were teaching classes

[104:13] >> and you would show scenes from

[104:16] >> Yeah.

[104:16] >> 12:00 high, right? What are me give me

[104:19] one or two things that was like the that

[104:22] you remember that's a lesson from

[104:25] this the Gregory Pre character.

[104:27] >> It's just I I think what what came

[104:29] through loud and clear is you can't let

[104:33] people in these roles do whatever they

[104:35] want to do. Right? So you'll see that a

[104:38] lot in workplaces where people go,

[104:39] "Well, I do it this way." Well, no. this

[104:42] is the way we do it because this is how

[104:44] I want you to do it and we're going to

[104:46] do it this way from now on. And when you

[104:48] come on and and hit them with this and

[104:51] say you have the freedom to do other

[104:53] things with other but as far as this one

[104:56] thing I want you to do it this way and

[104:58] and the thing is that to me brings

[105:01] people more in line. And that's what's

[105:03] super about the military because when

[105:05] they give you an order like this and

[105:08] you're working in an environment like

[105:10] that, you uh you follow the rules, you

[105:13] know, and and I think that was the

[105:14] overwhelming thing for me is is just

[105:17] that there are certain ways that we do

[105:19] things and you're going to do that way.

[105:22] >> The um so

[105:24] there's a lot of quote leadership

[105:26] lessons articles about this on the

[105:29] interwebs. Oh, the military still uses

[105:32] it.

[105:33] >> So, it says, "Prioritize the long-term

[105:35] goal and survival of the group over

[105:37] short-term popularity or individual

[105:39] culture."

[105:40] >> Yeah. It's not about the individual.

[105:41] It's about the group. You know,

[105:43] >> uh when the team is failing due to

[105:44] laxity or excuses, the leader must reset

[105:47] the baseline performance, discipline,

[105:50] and demand personal responsibility.

[105:52] >> Yeah. And when you first do it, Chris,

[105:54] you're not g This is not going to be a

[105:56] popularity contest. They hated this guy

[105:58] when he came in because the previous

[106:00] leader um basically let him do whatever

[106:03] they wanted to, but this guy came in and

[106:05] said, "You're going to do it this way."

[106:07] >> So, I was looking at one of them, which

[106:08] is addressing underperformance

[106:10] transparently.

[106:11] >> Right now, if you did what Gregory Peek

[106:14] did now, even in the military, you'd

[106:16] probably be in trouble, right?

[106:17] >> Yeah, you probably would be.

[106:18] >> So, he isolates the chronic slackers

[106:21] into the group called the leper colony.

[106:24] >> Yeah. to confront them directly,

[106:26] challenge their pride, and motivate them

[106:28] to turn the performance around.

[106:29] >> It's one of one of those almost closed

[106:32] door things where I used to call them

[106:34] closed door meetings when you have a

[106:35] person who's underperforming and you

[106:37] just say basically, uh, we have a

[106:39] situation here and you're not performing

[106:42] to the standard that we need. And if you

[106:44] don't want to do that, um, you won't you

[106:46] won't survive here. And you're not

[106:48] supposed to do those things. I

[106:49] understand that. Um, but in reality, you

[106:52] do them. Another one is talking about

[106:54] hidden cost of command. Extreme

[106:56] leadership places massive psychological

[106:59] burden on the commander.

[107:00] >> Oh, there's no question about it.

[107:02] >> And then uh must recognize limits

[107:04] avoiding destructive isolation but also

[107:06] building support. Yeah. Strong support

[107:08] networks.

[107:09] >> Yeah. Gregory Peek does a magnificent

[107:12] job in this movie. I mean he I I've

[107:14] always liked him but he is so good in

[107:16] this. It's incredible. What's your best

[107:18] turnaround hotel or project you ever had

[107:20] to do where you almost were the Gregory

[107:22] Peek of hospitality?

[107:25] I

[107:25] >> actually the the the most because there

[107:29] was stress involved but it was also fun

[107:31] at the same time. When I took over uh

[107:33] when I took over uh a casino in St.

[107:36] Lewis, basically everybody was focused

[107:39] on themselves.

[107:41] And what we were able to do in a

[107:44] six-month period of time is to turn and

[107:47] and I we're building a hotel at the same

[107:49] time, but what we were able to do is

[107:51] turn that around and be more guest

[107:53] focused. So, in other words, on a

[107:56] blackjack game, uh on an empty game,

[107:59] you'd see you'd see uh dealers like

[108:01] this. Okay, how inviting is that?

[108:04] >> Right? instead what we had because I

[108:07] could go down the lane and watch people

[108:10] uh because of the way that we trained

[108:11] them. It was just like they'd start

[108:13] conversations with people as they were

[108:15] walking by. Hey, would you like to play

[108:16] blackjack? You know, I'm a little lonely

[108:18] over here or whatever and just have a

[108:20] conversation with people. And we did

[108:22] that in every facet of we did it in the

[108:24] hotel. We did it in the casino. But

[108:26] casinos for the longest time and the

[108:27] reason I think I got hired was um

[108:30] casinos for the longest time was just us

[108:32] against them mentality. They don't need

[108:34] that because the fact of the matter is

[108:36] casinos have the math working for them.

[108:38] Okay? The percentages are on their side.

[108:40] They don't need to do that. So, the the

[108:43] bottom line is, you know, be more uh

[108:46] hospitalitydriven. And and it worked. It

[108:48] was fantastic. I I really really enjoyed

[108:50] that gig. I'm still always fascinated

[108:53] right now in 2026, right? Where it seems

[108:56] like the

[108:57] >> I guess I'm starting to sound like the

[108:59] grumpy old guy, right? Yeah. that the

[109:01] young kids don't get hospitality

[109:03] like they used to, but maybe they I feel

[109:05] like there's there's a gap there

[109:07] somewhere. I feel like some of the

[109:08] younger kids are pretty good.

[109:09] >> But you know what I think it is? I think

[109:11] I I think if you have parents that are

[109:13] communic communicative with their kids

[109:17] and and encourage that as opposed to

[109:20] letting them just be on their phones all

[109:22] the time. I think that that that leads

[109:25] itself to being to be able to be

[109:28] hospitable. And and the thing is that's

[109:30] what's lacking now because I I can't

[109:32] tell you how many kids I interviewed,

[109:34] college kids and interviewed for jobs at

[109:36] the Marriott and and it's just like they

[109:38] couldn't even look at me. I mean,

[109:39] they're looking at the floor the whole

[109:41] time and it's like what is going on

[109:42] here?

[109:43] >> Look at the floor and they say, you

[109:44] know, I'm a people person, Mr. Van

[109:45] Beerren.

[109:45] >> Yeah.

[109:47] >> Um Grant Grant and I have talked about

[109:48] this a little bit too, right? Where um

[109:52] >> in this world of technology and autom

[109:54] automization start to sound like George

[109:56] Bush. Um

[109:59] uh automation. Yeah. Um

[110:01] >> is there and the is the opportunity

[110:05] >> like your niche for your restaurant or

[110:07] your hotel or whatever that you actually

[110:09] still consistently do good in-person

[110:14] guest service. Is that I mean like

[110:16] In-N-Out might be the I feel like part

[110:18] of that, right? So McDonald's has gone

[110:20] to kiosks.

[110:22] >> Yeah. And I think that's a mistake um

[110:25] where you don't really give them much of

[110:27] an option to do the counter, you know,

[110:29] and and I see it all the time because I

[110:31] go in for a coffee once a week in

[110:33] McDonald's because their coffee is

[110:34] actually it used to be terrible. It's

[110:36] good now. But the thing is I'll go in

[110:38] there and I'll sit and I'll just watch

[110:39] and I'll see older people especially go

[110:42] up to the kiosk and they don't know how

[110:43] to do it and they they're frustrated and

[110:45] they want and and that's creating a

[110:47] really bad negative and it's just like

[110:48] just have that person there if if you

[110:51] know guy who ignores the kiosk and I

[110:53] just stand at the counter until someone

[110:55] deals with me.

[110:56] >> How long do you wait?

[110:57] >> It matters, but it's still worth it.

[110:58] >> Yeah, but how long do you wait?

[110:59] >> It could be for a few minutes at once.

[111:01] >> I know it's pretty bad,

[111:02] >> but I'm I'm I'm not in that big of a

[111:03] rush. Yeah. Right. And then when you

[111:05] look at when they've done testing of

[111:07] what's on the kiosk screen at McDonald's

[111:10] >> in relation to foreign

[111:12] >> and worse, right?

[111:13] >> Uh yeah. Hello.

[111:14] >> There's something that rhymes with eco

[111:16] adder on the touchcreen.

[111:20] >> That's true.

[111:20] >> Right. Yeah. And so I I I always got So

[111:23] uh my daughter and I were going through

[111:25] the four corners to go to Colorado to

[111:26] visit a buddy.

[111:27] >> Yeah.

[111:28] >> Mickey De's in Cayenta up in the Navajo

[111:30] reservation.

[111:31] >> Okay.

[111:31] >> And they got three kiosks.

[111:34] >> Yeah.

[111:34] >> And there's a line for the kiosks.

[111:36] >> Yeah.

[111:37] >> Right. And I just walk right up to the

[111:39] door to the counter. Two minutes later

[111:41] I'm like

[111:43] And there were still people waiting

[111:45] online because they didn't want to

[111:46] >> I know

[111:46] >> have the the thing of talking to

[111:48] somebody. It was really

[111:49] >> But see, that's the thing though, too.

[111:51] We're we're creating these people that

[111:52] don't know how to interact with one

[111:53] another and it and it's just really kind

[111:55] of sad. It really and truly is.

[111:57] >> So, uh, Brother Joe was um I don't know,

[112:01] cancelling or

[112:02] >> switching his XM radio from one vehicle

[112:04] to the other.

[112:06] >> So, he calls me up and he goes, "I just

[112:08] had a wonderful experience with XM

[112:10] radio." And I go,

[112:11] >> "What? Get out of here.

[112:12] >> How did that happen? They got rid of

[112:14] their Bombay facility. AI person only.

[112:20] >> Really?

[112:21] >> Hello. Blah blah blah. I'd like to Yes.

[112:23] What vehicle? Here's the number. Blah

[112:25] blah blah. He said it was like better

[112:27] than half the Americans talked to on the

[112:29] way.

[112:29] >> They got it right. Good for them.

[112:31] >> That's wild. Uh Umpire John, we used to

[112:33] host a weekend battle uh event for the

[112:35] Battle of Britain Fighter Association

[112:37] when the few were quote in their 70s. Um

[112:41] let's see. Uh Jay Allen uh many ball

[112:46] turret gunners didn't wear parach this

[112:48] gets better, right? The ball didn't wear

[112:50] parachutes because they couldn't fit in

[112:52] the spot with the par.

[112:53] >> Well, they also couldn't get out.

[112:54] >> Well, that's I mean, you know, putting a

[112:57] parachute on a guy in a in a locked

[112:58] cage.

[112:59] >> Uh he or she is saying that Alan McGee

[113:01] was a ball gunner who fell over 20,000

[113:04] feet without a shoot and somehow

[113:06] survived.

[113:07] >> Wow. That's amazing.

[113:10] >> That's amazing. Amazing.

[113:11] >> Yeah. So, all right. Great job as

[113:15] always.

[113:15] >> Thank you. Enjoyed it.

[113:16] >> Uh, we got I I sent it to Shay. We'll

[113:19] watch it another day. The Jimmy Stewart

[113:20] films coming out the first week of of

[113:24] November.

[113:24] >> He was a true American hero and just a

[113:27] grounded guy, right? I I I don't think

[113:30] he put himself up on a pedestal like so

[113:33] many people do, like I'm so much better

[113:35] than everybody else. It's just like

[113:36] because I shoot movies. It's just like

[113:38] he was a wonderful man. You know what

[113:40] movie I finally watched is uh Complete

[113:42] Unknown about Bob Dylan. I finally

[113:44] watched it.

[113:45] >> Did you?

[113:45] >> Okay.

[113:46] >> Did you like it?

[113:48] >> It's okay. Okay. I think they captured

[113:50] the whole thing.

[113:52] >> I'm not a Dylan guy, but I think they

[113:54] did a great job capturing what who he

[113:56] was. And he's not a real I would say

[113:59] he's not a very likable guy by any

[114:02] stretch of the imagination, but I think

[114:04] they captured it pretty well. I really

[114:06] do. I I Katherine read the other day and

[114:09] she told me about it. She said uh

[114:11] McCartney wanted to do a duet with Bob

[114:15] Dylan,

[114:15] >> right?

[114:16] >> And he said it probably never will

[114:18] happen, but I'm pretty intimidated by

[114:20] the guy, too. He was such a talent as

[114:22] far as a songwriter goes. I I was, you

[114:25] know, I think his voice is a little

[114:26] sketchy and everything, but but as far

[114:28] as a a talent as far as songwriting,

[114:31] Wow. Just

[114:32] >> So, is he one of the top five American

[114:34] songwriters of all time? Could be.

[114:35] Absolutely. I'm going to go absolutely.

[114:37] Right.

[114:38] >> But this idea that so some of his songs

[114:40] worked okay in the old days.

[114:42] >> Yeah.

[114:44] >> Well, and as he got older, that twangy

[114:47] stuff got even more intense. And it's

[114:49] just like when you look at his really

[114:51] early stuff, there wasn't a lot of that

[114:52] in there.

[114:53] >> But it was to me it was the idea that I

[114:55] didn't I could never get past the voice.

[114:58] >> You know what? You know what song really

[115:00] bothered me when they did that? We are

[115:01] the world, you know. And when he would

[115:03] Oh,

[115:09] >> yeah. Exactly. What?

[115:12] >> I need somebody to run the lines below

[115:13] the what he's singing because I I don't

[115:15] know what he's saying.

[115:15] >> Every time I sing uh We Are the World,

[115:18] I'm thinking of Billy Crystal doing

[115:20] Sammy Davis Jr. singing

[115:22] >> We are the world.

[115:22] >> We are the world. Then at the end where

[115:24] he goes, "We can make a brighter day."

[115:26] And then he goes, "Mack the night." Oh,

[115:30] I thought you were going to do Candyman.

[115:31] But anyway,

[115:32] >> on that note, David Samano is coming up.

[115:35] He's got uh K9 units. There better be a

[115:38] dog here. Edgar Sodto running for LD17.

[115:41] My plan is to have Edgar on sometime

[115:43] next week. Him and I just have to figure

[115:44] out the date. And then uh Bob Elliot

[115:47] show after that. So,

[115:48] >> excellent.

[115:49] >> Have an amazing weekend. Keep your hat

[115:51] attached to your head. It's going to be

[115:52] windy out there.

[115:53] >> It's going to be very windy down the

[115:54] hatches.

[115:55] >> Can't wait to see you guys tomorrow.

[115:56] Morirana and we'll be on live everywhere

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