World News Tonight (ABC) - 1985-02-25
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[0:00] Two clicks down the dial. March 4th
[0:07] >> from ABC. This is World News Tonight
[0:10] with Peter Jennings.
[0:11] >> Good evening. All that warm weather
[0:13] across much of the country is a reminder
[0:14] of something. If this were a normal
[0:16] year, by the end of this week, March the
[0:18] 1st, American farmers would have had
[0:20] their financing in hand for spring
[0:22] planting. But a large number do not. And
[0:24] President Reagan said on the weekend,
[0:25] "The American taxpayer must not be asked
[0:28] to bail out every farmer hopelessly in
[0:30] debt." Well, aid for the farmers is now
[0:32] a hot topic in Washington. Farmers and
[0:35] their state legislators have decided now
[0:37] is the time to make their case in
[0:39] person. As ABC's Chris Buri reports, the
[0:42] entire South Dakota state legislature is
[0:45] on its way to Capitol Hill this
[0:47] afternoon. They put aside their partisan
[0:49] differences, packed their bags, and
[0:51] boarded a plane for Washington. The
[0:53] entire South Dakota legislature, 82
[0:56] Republicans and 23 Democrats, is off to
[0:58] lobby for a farm state in trouble.
[1:01] >> I hope that we can get some early
[1:03] relief. Uh, and I'm talking about within
[1:06] the next 2 to 3 weeks to allow these
[1:08] people out here in South Dakota and
[1:10] throughout rural America to plant this
[1:12] year's crop. That's what we're really
[1:14] talking about.
[1:15] >> We aren't going there asking for any
[1:16] handouts or any bailouts. We're asking
[1:18] for only the opportunities that other
[1:20] businesses have had in the area of
[1:22] extended credit backed by government
[1:24] guaranteed procedure.
[1:26] >> Here in South Dakota, farmers in trouble
[1:28] are a minority, but they're a big
[1:29] minority. The state says one in three,
[1:32] 11,000 altogether, are in danger of
[1:34] going under, and 1 in 10 will go
[1:36] bankrupt this year. Rick Whis is caught
[1:38] in the credit crunch. Last week, he sold
[1:41] off some of his livestock and equipment
[1:43] to pay off a loan, but he's still
[1:44] hundreds of thousands of dollars in
[1:46] debt. And the bank won't lend him more
[1:48] money unless the government guarantees
[1:50] the loan.
[1:51] >> There's no way I can put in a crop
[1:52] without finding someone to finance me
[1:54] because uh the bank holds a a lean on
[1:58] all my livestock. Uh you sell something
[2:01] and it's got your name and the bank's
[2:03] name on. Down the road, Rick's younger
[2:05] brother, Dennis, $200,000 in debt at age
[2:08] 24, was forced to sell out completely
[2:10] last week. Their father, Andy, is one of
[2:13] the legislators on his way to
[2:14] Washington. Makes me feel kind of
[2:16] helpless, but I'm still going to do
[2:18] everything I can to put those boys on
[2:21] that farm.
[2:22] >> Late today, a charter jet carrying Andy
[2:24] Whis and the rest of the legislature
[2:26] took off for Washington on a wing and a
[2:28] prayer, hoping to come back with
[2:30] something more. Chris Buri, ABC News,
[2:33] Pier, South Dakota.
[2:35] >> This is Britt Hume. The Constitution
[2:37] calls it petition for red address of
[2:39] grievances. Around here, though, they
[2:41] usually just call it lobbying. Right
[2:43] now, we need some uh short-term money.
[2:45] >> State legislators from all over the farm
[2:47] belt were all over Capitol Hill today,
[2:49] telling members like Senator Andrews of
[2:51] North Dakota here what he already knows,
[2:53] that small farmers are strapped and once
[2:55] more want Washington to help. 10 of the
[2:57] legislators testified at a joint house
[2:59] Senate committee where one of them in
[3:01] emotional tones read a letter to the
[3:03] president from a 15-year-old Iowa farm
[3:05] girl.
[3:06] >> Please lower interest rates. Quit
[3:09] importing meat from other countries. and
[3:11] most of all, save our farm. We need help
[3:15] now.
[3:16] >> Senate Democrats, meanwhile, were busy
[3:18] trying to prove they are the farmer's
[3:19] true friends. They coaxed some extra
[3:21] help out of the administration last week
[3:23] by filibusting the M's attorney general
[3:25] nomination. Today, they drafted an
[3:26] amendment for more farm credit relief,
[3:28] which they hope to attach to an Africa
[3:30] drought relief bill expected to pass the
[3:32] Senate tomorrow. But from the
[3:34] administration today came word to the
[3:36] legislators that further farm credit
[3:38] relief from Congress would not be
[3:39] welcome. It's time to get on with the
[3:41] show and make the program work.
[3:43] >> All of this is a devilish problem for
[3:45] Senate Majority Leader Dole of Kansas,
[3:47] who as a Farm State member is under no
[3:49] less pressure than anybody else, but who
[3:51] is trying to hold the line on spending
[3:53] in the hope he can pass a package of
[3:55] painful spending cuts to bring down the
[3:57] federal deficit.
[3:58] >> Now, we're going to have a lot of debate
[3:59] this week and going to be a lot of
[4:00] rhetoric and a lot of posturing. And
[4:03] when it's all over, I think we're going
[4:04] to be about where we are right now. The
[4:06] Democrats know Dole may be right, but
[4:08] either way, they think he's got a
[4:09] problem. If more Farm Aid passes, the
[4:11] Democrats look good. If it doesn't, the
[4:13] Republicans look bad. Brit Hume, ABC
[4:15] News, on Capitol Hill. Well, as some of
[4:18] the farmers are having a tough time in
[4:19] Washington, the nation's governors don't
[4:21] think they're getting a fair shake from
[4:22] the federal budget either. The governors
[4:24] are in Washington for their annual
[4:25] winter meeting. They do not like Mr.
[4:28] Reagan's figures on money to be turned
[4:30] back to the states, and they are unhappy
[4:32] with the amount being allocated to
[4:33] defense. Here's our White House
[4:35] correspondent, Sam Donaldson.
[4:38] >> The governors went to the White House in
[4:40] the mood to support a budget freeze,
[4:41] which would include their own favorite
[4:43] federal programs. And indeed, the
[4:45] president's note cards contain the key
[4:47] words.
[4:48] >> First, our administration proposes to
[4:50] freeze overall federal program spending
[4:54] at last year's level.
[4:55] >> But the freeze the governor's had in
[4:57] mind is one across the board, a freeze
[4:59] that includes defense and social
[5:01] security increases. Governor Cuomo made
[5:03] the point directly to Mr. Reagan, but
[5:05] the president was having none of that.
[5:07] Instead, the governors were lectured
[5:09] about reducing their own share of the
[5:10] federal pie.
[5:12] >> There's simply no justification, for
[5:14] example, for the federal government,
[5:16] which is running a deficit to be
[5:18] borrowing money to be spent by state and
[5:21] local governments, some of which are now
[5:23] running surpluses.
[5:24] >> Afterward, the Republican vice chairman
[5:26] of the governor's association recounted
[5:28] his reply to that.
[5:30] >> I said, "Mr. President, may I
[5:31] respectfully suggest that the surpluses,
[5:34] as you understand, don't have anything
[5:36] to do with the budget deficit, and it
[5:38] would be better if the members of the
[5:39] administration didn't use those terms.
[5:42] And the Democratic chairman of the
[5:43] association spoke to Mr. Reagan's
[5:45] refusal to freeze defense and social
[5:47] security.
[5:48] >> The biggest concern is that huge areas
[5:50] left off the table because without
[5:52] addressing that part of the table,
[5:54] they're not going to get the deficit
[5:55] down. The other governors pushed their
[5:57] way through a crowd of reporters on the
[5:59] White House lawn to find just the right
[6:00] news camera to carry their own
[6:02] suggestions on budget cutting back to
[6:04] home state voters. Confident their host,
[6:06] himself, a former governor, would
[6:08] understand.
[6:09] >> President says, "Fine, thanks for the
[6:10] contribution."
[6:11] >> Right. Sam Donaldson, ABC News, the
[6:13] White House.
[6:14] >> Two other notes from Washington. The
[6:16] country's 75th attorney general, Edwin
[6:18] Me, was sworn in today, 13 months after
[6:20] he was nominated by President Reagan. No
[6:22] television cameras were allowed inside
[6:24] to record the event. One of the most
[6:26] powerful men in Washington said today
[6:28] that 36 years was enough. The Democratic
[6:30] Senator Russell Long of Louisiana said
[6:32] he will not run for reelection in 1986.
[6:36] Later in this broadcast, arrest tonight
[6:39] in Mexico in connection with the
[6:41] kidnapping of an American drug agent.
[6:43] Our chief correspondent Richard Thrrell
[6:45] looks at the vigilante mood in America
[6:48] and a few small signs of movement
[6:50] towards overall peace in the Middle
[6:52] East.
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[8:01] There have been some important arrests
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[8:20] Shepard.
[8:20] >> Mexican authorities in Tijuana called in
[8:23] reporters today and announced the
[8:24] apprehension of three suspects in
[8:26] connection with the Karina kidnapping.
[8:28] One was said to be a former police and
[8:30] transport chief of Mexico City. Another
[8:32] a former agent for Mexico's top federal
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[8:38] knowledge of the disappearance of the
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[8:43] after an appearance by DEH Francis
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[8:52] suspects in the kidnapping to slip
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[8:56] >> I don't know if I would go so far as to
[8:58] say cover up, but uh there may be some
[9:02] complicity at the lower levels of the
[9:04] law enforcement. American drug
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[9:07] Washington said tonight they have no new
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[9:20] questioning. Gary Shepard, ABC News, San
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[9:24] Federal prosecutors are ready to begin
[9:25] an unprecedented attack on the New York
[9:28] mafia. This time, federal investigators
[9:30] in New York believe they have some of
[9:32] the biggest fish in their nets. Here's
[9:33] ABC's Michael Connor.
[9:36] >> In the past year, more than 300 alleged
[9:39] members of New York's organized crime
[9:40] families have been indicted on charges
[9:43] ranging from extortion to murder. But
[9:45] tomorrow could see the biggest bust of
[9:47] all. Law enforcement sources say the
[9:49] Justice Department will announce the
[9:50] indictment of those said to be the
[9:52] bosses of New York's five crime
[9:54] families. Anthony Fat Tony Solerno, boss
[9:57] of the Genevvisi family. Jerry Langella,
[9:59] acting boss of the Columbbo family.
[10:01] Antonio Tony Ducks Coralo of the Lucesy
[10:04] family, Philip Restelli, boss of the
[10:06] Banano family, and Paul Big Paul
[10:08] Castellano of the Gambino family. In New
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[10:14] The five and several under bosses are
[10:16] expected to be charged under a broad
[10:18] federal statute for operating a
[10:20] continuing criminal enterprise. In other
[10:22] words, for running the New York mafia.
[10:24] It will be the first time all five mob
[10:26] bosses have been indicted at the same
[10:28] time. US Attorney Rudolph Giuliani would
[10:31] not comment today, but in an interview
[10:33] last week, he said the government
[10:35] finally had a chance at beating the mob.
[10:37] >> This is exactly the right time to
[10:39] redouble the effort against the mafia
[10:42] because we have a chance of crushing
[10:43] them and we should maximize that
[10:45] opportunity.
[10:46] >> These latest charges stem from a New
[10:48] York State investigation which found
[10:50] evidence that the organized crime
[10:51] families had actually formed a
[10:53] commission to discuss and plan a wide
[10:55] range of criminal activities.
[10:57] Investigators say that by striking at
[10:59] that commission, they have their best
[11:00] chance yet of defeating the mob. Michael
[11:03] Connor, ABC News, New York.
[11:05] >> Elsewhere in the country, the weekend's
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[11:31] today, the Dow Jones Industrials moved
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[11:38] segment, did Pakistan try to get hold of
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[13:17] >> The State Department late today gave
[13:18] Poland 48 hours to recall its military
[13:21] attache from the United States and the
[13:23] US has also postponed indefinitely talks
[13:25] with Poland on science and technology.
[13:28] That is in reaction to Poland's decision
[13:30] to expel an American military atache.
[13:33] The Polish government says that Colonel
[13:34] Frederick Meyers and his wife were
[13:36] caught taking photographs in a
[13:38] restricted military zone. The New York
[13:41] Times reported this morning that the
[13:42] government of Pakistan had tried for 9
[13:45] months in this country to illegally
[13:47] obtain a device which is used to trigger
[13:49] nuclear weapons. As ABC's Dennis Trout
[13:52] reports from Washington, some people are
[13:53] very angry and others appear to have an
[13:56] excuse.
[13:58] Last June in Houston, federal agents
[14:00] arrested Nazir Akmed Ved, a Pakistani
[14:03] national. They'd caught him with 50
[14:05] cryons, timing devices for nuclear bombs
[14:07] in packing cases. I'm not trying to say
[14:10] that I'm innocent. I did commit a crime.
[14:12] I knew that this needed an export
[14:14] license,
[14:16] but I never knew its usage till I was
[14:18] arrested.
[14:20] So, I was used as a scapegoat. Vid had
[14:22] bought the nuclear triggers from
[14:24] manufacturers in Massachusetts who were
[14:26] so alarmed at the purchase they tipped
[14:27] off federal agents. Ved faced 12 years
[14:30] in prison, but federal prosecutors
[14:32] suddenly didn't about face. They let him
[14:34] off the hook with a lenient plea bargain
[14:36] and virtually no time in jail. He was
[14:38] quickly deported to Pakistan last
[14:40] November. Now, it appears that in
[14:42] settling the case, federal agents
[14:44] neglected or chose to ignore strong
[14:46] evidence linking VI to his government.
[14:49] Critics say the Reagan administration
[14:50] may be more interested in protecting
[14:52] Pakistan than in exposing the truth.
[14:54] >> Well, you can't deny that somebody
[14:56] dropped the ball and whether it was just
[14:58] negligent or whether there was some
[14:59] pattern behind it, I don't know.
[15:01] >> The Justice Department will not respond
[15:03] to charges it mishandled the VID case.
[15:05] The State Department insists it sought
[15:07] energetic prosecution. As for Pakistan,
[15:10] its ambassador to Washington says Ved
[15:12] was not a government agent. The law
[15:14] requires a cut off of US aid to
[15:16] governments trying to develop a nuclear
[15:18] bomb. But much potential for a case
[15:20] against Pakistan on that score
[15:22] disappeared with Mr. Ved. Dennis Trout,
[15:25] ABC News, the State Department.
[15:28] >> One other note about Pakistan. Today,
[15:29] the first national election since
[15:31] President Zia Al- Hook came to power in
[15:33] a 1977 coup. General Zia cast his vote
[15:36] for a national assembly, but his
[15:38] political opponents say the election was
[15:39] a fraud. At least six people have been
[15:42] killed and 40 injured during election
[15:44] day violence. Still overseas, Egyptians
[15:47] President Mubarak today said he may send
[15:49] a personal envoy to Israeli Prime
[15:51] Minister Shimon Perez to talk about ways
[15:54] to further the Middle East peace
[15:55] process. Mubarak has also offered either
[15:58] to host or take part in Middle East
[16:00] peace talks between Israel and a
[16:02] combined Jordanian Palestinian
[16:04] delegation. In Israel, Prime Minister
[16:06] Perez said he read Mubarak's statement
[16:08] with great interest and he promised
[16:10] further study. Now, that may not sound
[16:12] like much in the way of movement, but in
[16:14] the Middle East, where diplomatic
[16:15] advances are measured in millimeters
[16:17] rather than miles, it could be a sign.
[16:20] From Jerusalem, ABC's Bob Zelnik.
[16:23] This is the West Bank, captured by
[16:25] Israel in 1967. Now, the occupied
[16:28] territories have become the stakes in a
[16:30] frenzied game of diplomatic poker in
[16:33] which the area's big leaders are
[16:34] preparing to play their strong cards.
[16:37] October 9th, President Husni Mubarak of
[16:40] Egypt and Jordan's King Hussein meet in
[16:42] Aman, resuming diplomatic relations
[16:44] severed after Egypt's Camp David treaty
[16:46] with Israel. November 22nd, Yasa Arafat
[16:50] convenes the Palestinian National
[16:52] Council in Aman while rejectionist PLO
[16:54] factions backed by Syria stay away.
[16:57] Hussein invites the PLO to follow his
[17:00] lead in bargaining to recover Israeli
[17:02] occupied land. February 11th, President
[17:05] Reagan entertains Saudi King Fad, the
[17:08] first among several Arab leaders who
[17:09] will be asking the White House to press
[17:11] Israel into greater flexibility.
[17:14] February 13th, Arafat and Hussein
[17:16] announce accord. The PLO delegating part
[17:19] of its negotiating authority to Jordan.
[17:22] Arafat also accepting the land for peace
[17:24] formula embodied in UN Security Council
[17:27] resolution 242.
[17:29] Noting Hussein's refusal to negotiate
[17:31] directly and Arafat's continued
[17:34] reluctance even to accept Israel's
[17:36] existence, Prime Minister Shimon Perez
[17:38] first reaction is cautious. Something
[17:41] was done in order to form an Arab camp.
[17:46] Not enough was done
[17:48] to really suggest a real opportunity to
[17:52] solve the conflict.
[17:53] >> But Hussein interviewed this past
[17:55] weekend by ABC News insisted his accord
[17:58] with Arafat provides a narrow opening
[18:00] for peace.
[18:01] >> If this chance is lost, uh I believe
[18:04] that the chance for peace is lost in our
[18:06] area. February 24th, yesterday.
[18:09] Returning to the Camp David formula,
[18:11] Mubarak tells the New York Times he
[18:14] favors a team of Jordanians and moderate
[18:16] Palestinians, not necessarily members of
[18:18] the PLO, to negotiate directly with
[18:21] Israel.
[18:22] >> We should encourage this so as to start
[18:24] negotiations
[18:26] to reach some kind of solution for the
[18:28] problem of the Middle East.
[18:29] >> Perez calls the proposal an important
[18:32] step forward. Other Israelis are even
[18:34] more enthusiastic. It's a very
[18:36] straightforward positive statement from
[18:38] President Mubarak and I do hope that the
[18:42] reaction of the Israeli government will
[18:43] be similar. King Hussein triggered all
[18:46] this recent activity by closing ranks
[18:48] with Cairo and playing host to Yasa
[18:50] Arafat's PLO. Now the ball is back in
[18:53] his court. If Hussein wants to talk,
[18:56] Israel is ready. Bob Zelnik, ABC News,
[18:59] Jerusalem.
[19:00] In our next segment, another status
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[21:10] The US attorney in New York said today
[21:12] there will be no federal charges in the
[21:14] shooting of four young men by the subway
[21:15] gunman Bernard Gats. There was no basis,
[21:17] said the US attorney for believing that
[21:20] Gats had violated federal civil rights
[21:22] laws. That means in essence, Gats will
[21:24] not face any further criminal charges.
[21:27] Mr. Gets has become something of a
[21:28] celebrated figure in recent weeks and
[21:30] his behavior raises the question, is
[21:32] what he did any real answer to crime?
[21:36] with another status report on crime in
[21:38] America. Here's our chief correspondent,
[21:40] Richard Thrrell.
[21:46] When it comes to the problem of crime on
[21:48] our streets and subways, we're all
[21:50] experts of sorts. And as we've seen, not
[21:53] all of us are inclined to turn the other
[21:55] cheek.
[21:56] >> I hit one cheek, then the other will
[21:58] forget it because then it get pretty
[21:59] black and blue.
[22:01] >> We are certain about the problem, less
[22:03] so about the remedy. It's frustrating.
[22:06] It's frustrating and don't really know
[22:08] what to do about it and I don't have any
[22:11] solutions.
[22:12] >> It may frustrate you to know that the
[22:14] experts don't have any surefire
[22:16] solutions to the crime problem either.
[22:18] Most of them though would agree with
[22:20] what follows.
[22:21] >> By and large, the young men who commit
[22:23] more than half our violent crime share
[22:26] the same poor and violent backgrounds.
[22:28] In the words of Kenneth Clark, the
[22:30] sociologist, muggers come from mugged
[22:33] families, mugged schools, and mugged
[22:35] neighborhoods. Therefore, while it's
[22:37] true that violent criminals are black
[22:39] and Hispanic out of all proportion, it's
[22:41] equally true that so are their victims.
[22:45] And not all those young hoodlams are
[22:47] beyond salvage. We met Carlos Parkin,
[22:50] once a gang leader, now grown up and
[22:52] trying to salvage other bad kids.
[22:55] >> I let them tell me, "Hey, what's your
[22:57] problem right now?" you know what are
[22:59] you doing in life to help yourself
[23:01] >> and as a wise juvenile judge reminded us
[23:04] that's better than the alternative
[23:06] >> sure we can kill the kid and then what
[23:08] you going to do about the next kid uh
[23:10] that's going to come along but the next
[23:12] kid
[23:13] >> of course we keep breeding them the
[23:14] situations from which they come are
[23:16] breeding grounds for these kinds of kids
[23:18] so we got to deal with the situation
[23:19] from which to come
[23:21] >> yet Washington is spending less and less
[23:23] money to help cure those situations and
[23:26] what of crime victims More attention is
[23:28] being paid to them and that's healthy.
[23:30] Like the mother of a kidnapped child in
[23:32] Tucson, victims want to take action.
[23:35] >> You're not going to let them defeat you.
[23:38] You're going to fight back.
[23:40] >> Victim's rights groups are doing that
[23:42] all over the country. It's fast becoming
[23:44] a political movement. And there are
[23:46] those who think victim's rights is
[23:48] moving in the wrong direction.
[23:50] There's a tendency to use victims as a
[23:53] way of reestablishing law and order
[23:56] approaches to crime. Despite their
[23:57] persistent failure in the past, there is
[24:00] this sense that the only thing we can do
[24:01] for victims is to try to get tough with
[24:04] a criminal.
[24:06] >> And it's troubling to realize that what
[24:08] some people mean by getting tough with
[24:10] criminals is not justice or retribution,
[24:13] but simple revenge.
[24:14] >> Feel it was way too easy. Too quick, too
[24:17] easy. He didn't suffer no pain. My
[24:20] daughter had you.
[24:21] >> People think crime is getting worse and
[24:23] worse and nobody's doing anything about
[24:26] it.
[24:26] >> I feel that I am being intimidated
[24:30] almost on a daily basis and every night.
[24:33] That is your property and that is your
[24:35] life that's at stake.
[24:37] >> In fact, the federal government is
[24:39] trying to do something about it. Last
[24:41] fall, the president signed a big new
[24:43] crime bill to get tougher on criminals
[24:45] and give more help to police and crime
[24:47] victims. back up.
[24:49] >> Most important, the crime rate is
[24:51] dropping. The FBI's major crime index is
[24:54] down 13% since 1981. Not so much because
[24:57] of anything we've done, but because of
[24:59] demographics. There are fewer young
[25:02] criminals among us. To really stop
[25:04] crime, to make capture and punishment
[25:06] truly swift and sure, would require a
[25:09] vast amount of money and some tinkering
[25:11] with the Bill of Rights, sacrifices most
[25:13] Americans are not willing to make.
[25:16] It will not do to make a role model of
[25:18] Burnhard Gats, the so-called subway
[25:20] vigilante who's lately been paraded
[25:22] around by special interest groups to
[25:24] express his folk wisdom about the crime
[25:26] problem.
[25:27] >> The people will have to want fundamental
[25:30] change and the political leadership will
[25:32] have to show the guts to do that
[25:34] fundamental change.
[25:35] >> Even Gats has admitted that when he shot
[25:37] his young antagonists on that subway
[25:39] car, he became a monster, univilized
[25:42] like the criminals that threaten us.
[25:46] Mahatma Gandhi was once asked what he
[25:49] thought of civilization. He said he
[25:51] thought it would be a good idea despite
[25:53] the temptations we conserve that idea
[25:56] and ourselves best by treating the
[25:58] univilized among us in a civilized way.
[26:02] Richard Thrrell, ABC News, New York.
[26:05] We'll be back in just a moment.
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[27:39] >> Tonight on Night Line, when an entire
[27:41] state legislature prepares to assault
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[27:50] Finally, from here this evening, how to
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[27:54] child. His name is Chad Conigra, and he
[27:57] comes from Dayton, Ohio. He has bone
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[28:05] president. He did
[28:06] >> homework.
[28:08] >> This is Chad. Chad, hello there. Hear a
[28:11] lot about you and I'm very pleased and
[28:14] honored to meet you. Brave young man.
[28:17] >> Thank you, Mr.
[28:18] >> And they traded jelly beans. Chad's
[28:21] parents would obviously like a lot more
[28:23] for him, but it was a very special
[28:25] moment and for his sister as well.
[28:27] That's our report on World News Tonight.
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