Inside Track Ep. 73 - Warren Peterson & Heather Henderson

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[15:18] today, GOP nominee for Arizona Attorney

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[15:54] votes in next month's election. Uh if

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[15:58] until it's too late. If you vote in

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[16:05] candidates up and down the ballot. We're

[16:07] going to review my choices later. Uh and

[16:10] uh believe me, I'll be voting Republican

[16:12] up and down uh voting no also on some of

[16:15] these uh propositions. Joining us now is

[16:18] Warren Peterson. Uh he's a uh Republican

[16:21] member of the Arizona State Senate

[16:23] representing District 14 where he serves

[16:25] as president of the Arizona Senate. He

[16:28] formerly was a state representative,

[16:29] also representing District 12. He was

[16:32] elected by his peers as House Majority

[16:34] Leader there in 2018 to 2019. And as I

[16:38] said, he is the Senate President at this

[16:41] time. Warren

[16:44] career at the legislature uh and he's

[16:47] now President Peterson has advocated for

[16:49] limited government, reduced regulations,

[16:51] fiscally conservative additions, low

[16:53] taxes, and free market principles. He

[16:55] has received several awards and

[16:57] recognitions

[16:59] for protecting religious freedom, free

[17:01] markets, small business, and individual

[17:03] rights, including the Silver Beaver

[17:05] Award. That's an interesting name. uh

[17:07] for a distinguished service to youth. Uh

[17:10] service in the legislature has included

[17:12] house majority leader, rules chair,

[17:14] commerce chair, judiciary chair, and

[17:16] ethics committee. President Peterson is

[17:19] a Gilbert residence and a graduate of

[17:21] Gilbert High School. He received his

[17:23] bachelor's degree from that junior

[17:26] college sort of uh up the road, Arizona

[17:28] State University, and got his jurist

[17:30] doctor from ASU Law. Uh, hey, uh,

[17:34] Warren, when you graduated from Gilbert

[17:36] High as a young, uh, teenager, did you

[17:39] ever thought one day you'd be running

[17:41] for the biggest law firm in Arizona?

[17:45] >> No, not at all. I didn't even I I didn't

[17:48] even uh think I'd be the Senate

[17:50] President. That never had crossed my

[17:52] mind either. So,

[17:53] >> it's kind of amazing how things work

[17:54] when when you work hard for a long time

[17:57] and achieve uh lots of good stuff.

[18:00] Yeah, that's right. I think, you know,

[18:02] work hard and uh opportunities arise.

[18:06] >> You bet. So, you've had a solid record

[18:08] serving in both the House and now in the

[18:10] state senate. You've earned praise and

[18:12] respect from other members, and you've

[18:14] been honored for your work protecting

[18:16] life, a voice for small business, named

[18:18] hero of the taxpayer, and friend of the

[18:20] family. So, tell the audience why you've

[18:23] decided to run for attorney general. Was

[18:27] this was this based upon your

[18:28] observations of the current attorney

[18:30] general? Uh do you think that you could

[18:32] do it better?

[18:34] >> Yeah. So, first of all, I love Arizona.

[18:37] Um I want to keep it safe. I want to

[18:39] keep it prosperous. Our current attorney

[18:41] general is taking us towards California.

[18:44] Um her top two priorities have been

[18:46] political lawfare and environmental

[18:48] radicalism. as Senate President, uh, I

[18:51] uniquely have standing, uh, equal

[18:54] standing that she has to defend

[18:56] constitutional and statutory law here in

[18:59] the state of Arizona. That has kind of

[19:01] been a dormant thing, you really haven't

[19:03] seen Senate presidents um, use that. But

[19:06] because she is so

[19:09] liberal, reckless, rogue, um anti-law

[19:13] enforcement, anti-defending our common

[19:15] sense laws. Um as Senate President, I'm

[19:18] now u managing over 130 cases or briefs

[19:22] that are on the other side of her common

[19:24] sense laws like no boys and girls

[19:26] sports, protecting Arizonans from sex

[19:29] offenders, enforcing the Border Security

[19:32] Act, and on and on. I have about a 100

[19:35] cases people can look at on my website

[19:38] where um I'm into cases that Chris Mays

[19:40] is on the other side.

[19:42] >> So talk for just a second about her

[19:44] environmental radicalism.

[19:47] >> Yeah. Well, one thing that she did is um

[19:50] she allowed uh Michael Bloomberg to uh

[19:54] have uh attorneys hired and uh work out

[19:58] of her office that he was paying for.

[20:00] Now, my second year or maybe my third

[20:02] year as Senate President, we were able

[20:04] to negotiate with the governor to end

[20:07] that. Um,

[20:10] but uh uh she she you know, she has has

[20:15] these environmental lawyers working out

[20:17] of her office hired by Michael Bloomberg

[20:19] and um really they're not

[20:22] environmentalists. I mean, you mentioned

[20:24] some my uh some of my scouting awards

[20:26] earlier. I'm I'm a Boy Scout. I protect

[20:29] the environment. But what we really see

[20:31] is a lot of this environmentalism is

[20:33] actually used for power and money. It's

[20:36] not about protecting the the

[20:38] environment. It's about um it's about

[20:41] making money or it's about, you know,

[20:44] controlling the economy.

[20:47] And where does Attorney General Bae

[20:50] stand on protecting females uh against

[20:54] men um competing in sports and and

[20:56] sharing locker rooms and bathrooms uh

[20:59] with with students?

[21:01] >> Yeah, she's with 20% of the uh of the of

[21:05] the public who think that that's okay uh

[21:08] to let boys and girls sports and let

[21:10] them in the bathroom. So 5 years ago, we

[21:12] passed a law that said no boys and girls

[21:14] sports or locker rooms. Currently,

[21:16] there's a proposition um that's going to

[21:19] be voted on here soon by everybody to

[21:21] not allow them also in private spaces.

[21:24] It it's voter protecting the sports law,

[21:26] but it's also adding private spaces. She

[21:29] is opposed to that. Um there were two

[21:32] boys who think they're girls. They sued

[21:34] the state of Arizona against our Save

[21:36] Women Sports Act law. Says no boys in

[21:38] girls sports. Chris May said, "I'm not

[21:40] going to defend that law as a proud

[21:42] LGBT. I'm not going to defend that law."

[21:44] So, that is one of the laws out of the

[21:46] 130 cases that I am defending or that I

[21:49] defended. I took it all the way to the

[21:50] US Supreme Court. I was actually in the

[21:52] US Supreme Court in January. They ruled

[21:55] on it about three months ago. We won,

[21:57] thank goodness. Uh uh Arizona, West

[21:59] Virginia, and Idaho. We uh all won. And

[22:03] that case affected the whole nation. and

[22:06] uh girls, you know, you can ban uh boys

[22:09] from playing in girls sports now. Um all

[22:12] those laws are are have been upheld.

[22:16] >> So, she uses her own personal feelings,

[22:19] her personal beliefs. They really

[22:22] instruct her what she's doing as

[22:24] attorney general, whether or not it

[22:27] conforms with the will of the public or

[22:30] in some cases even established law. Am I

[22:34] getting that right?

[22:36] >> Absolutely. That's one of the big

[22:38] differences. I mentioned this during our

[22:39] debate between Chris Mays and myself is

[22:42] that I will defend the law whether I

[22:44] agree with it or not. And if I don't

[22:46] agree with it, I will go down to the

[22:48] legislature and have the legislature

[22:50] change it. Um I've been, you know,

[22:53] obviously 14 years at the legislature. I

[22:55] know how that process works. It's kind

[22:57] of like she wants to be the legislature.

[22:59] She wants to be the governor. She wants

[23:01] to be the corporation commission. She

[23:04] [snorts] really seems in doing

[23:05] everybody's job except for her own. But

[23:07] as attorney general, your job is to

[23:09] defend the laws, execute the laws. Um

[23:12] she has not been doing that. It's based

[23:14] off of her emotion or you know whether

[23:17] she likes a law or not. She'll choose

[23:20] whether to enforce it or not.

[23:23] That's not the that's not not the mark

[23:24] of success and it certainly isn't good

[23:26] for for residents here in Arizona. Uh

[23:30] you have just recently um revealed a

[23:33] poll which shows essentially an even

[23:36] race between you and uh and the current

[23:39] office holder. Talk about that and what

[23:41] that means between now and election day

[23:43] next month.

[23:45] >> Yeah, basically we're neck and neck.

[23:47] We're tied. Um so every vote absolutely

[23:49] mattered. I liked hearing you tell

[23:51] people to get out to the polls. Um there

[23:54] is a website called Stealth Analytics.

[23:57] Everybody can go on and they are

[23:59] tracking the returns on that website. Um

[24:02] currently just the first few days of

[24:04] voting, there's really only one 1% of

[24:06] the vote is in so far and uh the

[24:09] Democrats have returned more ballots

[24:11] than the Republicans. So, you know,

[24:13] we've got our work cut out for us.

[24:15] Republicans tend to vote a little later

[24:16] and they dominate election day. But we

[24:20] do need this is a race. It's an election

[24:22] month. It's not election day anymore.

[24:25] It's election season and we have to win

[24:27] every single day because just like a

[24:29] race you run, you can't let the other

[24:31] people start running before you. And you

[24:33] know it's going to be decided by

[24:34] milliseconds or seconds. It's going to

[24:36] be a very close race. This this race was

[24:39] decided by 280 votes,

[24:41] >> right,

[24:41] >> four years ago. and she didn't exactly

[24:44] have a mandate in that last election and

[24:46] and the and the policies and her actions

[24:49] uh now in office uh would lead somebody

[24:52] to think that she had a landslide

[24:53] victory, but that's just not the case

[24:55] here.

[24:56] >> Yeah, exactly. You would to think she

[24:58] would have moved out of all the

[24:59] statewide candidates, you would have

[25:01] thought she would have moved to the

[25:02] middle because she had the closest race.

[25:04] The irony is she has she's the furthest

[25:07] left of everybody. She's even to the

[25:09] left of Katie Hobbs, which is hard to

[25:12] do. But Katie Hobbs rebuked her for her

[25:15] comments on shooting law enforcement,

[25:18] told her to retract her comments. Um,

[25:21] she got called on by the legislature to

[25:23] resign. Three uh public safety

[25:26] organizations rebuked her. And uh in

[25:30] case you know your listeners don't know,

[25:32] in January Chris Maize basically gave

[25:34] legal advice on how to shoot law

[25:36] enforcement and get away with it. And

[25:39] there was a huge backlash from the

[25:41] community from even de I mean even

[25:44] Democrats um you know Katie Hobbs said

[25:47] you know retract your words.

[25:51] I I watched portions of the debate that

[25:53] you recently had uh with uh Miss May

[25:56] Maize um and unfortunately I missed that

[25:59] part of it. What was her reaction uh

[26:01] when when that topic came up or did it

[26:04] end up being discussed in the debate?

[26:07] >> Yeah. No, I brought it up. Uh she just I

[26:09] think there were a few times during the

[26:11] debate where she just looked like she

[26:12] was seeing stars. Um, some people I got

[26:17] text messages saying I think she was

[26:19] intoxicated at some point. She looked

[26:22] like she was intoxicated. Um, I knew

[26:25] when she showed up without any notes

[26:26] that she was going to struggle. Uh, I

[26:29] think she came very unprepared. I think

[26:31] she just thought, "Oh, I just walk on

[26:32] the stage and whatever." But, um, she

[26:35] just hurled insults. She was

[26:36] condescending. Eric, I mean, you watched

[26:38] it. Um, you know, I I just tried to uh

[26:43] make sure I stuck to the facts and uh we

[26:45] got out pretty much everything we wanted

[26:47] to share the contrast between herself

[26:50] and myself. Um, so I feel I feel good

[26:53] about the debate.

[26:54] >> And to the audience here, if you haven't

[26:57] watched this uh debate, it's it's

[27:00] online. Uh, you can pick it up easily on

[27:03] your laptop or on your desktop uh uh uh

[27:07] computer. It is a stunning um debate and

[27:10] it really shows the stark differences

[27:13] between the current attorney general and

[27:15] uh Warren uh when he's elected as

[27:18] attorney general. Warren, you also serve

[27:21] uh as rules chair in addition to being

[27:23] uh president of the Senate. I have some

[27:25] experience in this area myself. Um tell

[27:28] us why being rules chair is perhaps the

[27:31] most critical job in the legislature and

[27:35] your success in that position.

[27:37] Yeah, 100%. And it's a great uh preper,

[27:40] you know, one of the good preparation

[27:43] positions to be an attorney general. So,

[27:45] the rules chairman, as you know, is um

[27:48] reviews every single bill for

[27:50] constitutionality

[27:52] visav the state constitution and the US

[27:55] constitution. So, you know, it's funny.

[27:57] You'll talk to people and they'll say,

[27:59] "Man, we should make sure bills are

[28:00] constitutional." Well, we actually do.

[28:03] [laughter]

[28:03] and uh we have a committee dedicated to

[28:06] that. So, we'll scour through thousands

[28:08] and thousands of bills. We'll read them

[28:10] all. We'll um match them up to the

[28:12] Constitution, make sure they're, you

[28:14] know, they flesh out constitutionally.

[28:17] One of the changes I made um as Senate

[28:19] President was I brought in a um new

[28:23] rules attorney because I think our rules

[28:26] attorney was giving more of like a if

[28:29] you're looking at a Supreme Court, more

[28:30] of like sodaor opinions. And so I I

[28:34] brought in somebody who is uh who would

[28:36] give us more uh Clarence Thomas opinions

[28:39] and uh you know that has been a really

[28:42] important thing.

[28:44] >> So let's get back to Chris Maize. I've

[28:45] known Chris long enough to know uh when

[28:49] she was a rather weak uh GOP corporation

[28:52] commissioner. She always struck me as

[28:55] being a weakling. But it sounds like

[28:57] she's developed an uncharacteristically

[29:00] foul temper, not befitting the chief law

[29:03] enforcement officer of the state. We saw

[29:06] it in the uh uh in the debate uh just

[29:09] recently. Talk about that because she is

[29:11] not she does not come across as a nice

[29:14] person at all.

[29:16] >> No, she she does not have the

[29:18] temperament for this office. Um just

[29:21] yesterday I heard from somebody who said

[29:23] that somebody in her off she had

[29:25] somebody in her office call somebody and

[29:27] intimidate him and said since they were

[29:29] supporting me uh they wouldn't forget

[29:31] about it. They would not forget that she

[29:33] was support. So she throws out this

[29:35] intimidation all over the place. Um she

[29:39] was at a high a law enforcement uh

[29:41] meeting with sheriffs with federal

[29:43] officials. She was screaming the f-word,

[29:46] yelling at them uh insulting people. She

[29:50] held a meeting with a a constituent

[29:53] meeting with a supervisor and a business

[29:56] owner. They came in to meet with her

[29:58] about a problem and at some point she

[30:01] lost her temper, slammed her fist on the

[30:03] table in front of both of them and said,

[30:05] "I'm the effing ag." And just shocked

[30:08] them. They were just stunned um that

[30:12] this is the kind of behavior. And I I

[30:14] hear about this all the time. Um it's

[30:17] amazing. You know, the media has given

[30:18] her cover. If you ever heard of me, I

[30:21] mean, I do, you know, eight meetings a

[30:23] day. We do 15 minutee meetings

[30:25] backtoback all day long down at the

[30:26] Capitol. If you heard about me slamming

[30:29] my fist and saying I'm the effing Senate

[30:31] President, I mean, that would be

[30:32] headlines 247.

[30:35] Um, some for somehow and some reason the

[30:38] media has given her a pass on this and

[30:41] many other things. I mean, just the fact

[30:43] that this is the first time in Arizona

[30:45] history that a challenger has received

[30:47] every major law enforcement endorsement.

[30:50] She's the top law enforcement officer.

[30:52] No support from law enforcement. I have

[30:54] all the support from law enforcement.

[30:56] [snorts] If the if this was flipped

[30:58] around if the Democrat received that

[31:00] kind of support, you would see this in

[31:02] the media headlines 247. There has not

[31:05] been one story that says, you know,

[31:08] Warren Peterson received all has

[31:10] received all of law enforcement uh

[31:13] endorsements. And you know, Chris Maze,

[31:15] the reality is this. The fact is this,

[31:17] Chris Maize is a pariah in the law

[31:20] enforcement community. Uh everybody

[31:23] knows that and and the fact that the

[31:25] media has not reported that is uh it's a

[31:29] real shame. It it really is. I would be

[31:31] winning this race by 10 to 20 points if

[31:34] our mainstream media was was telling you

[31:37] what was what was really going on in

[31:39] this race.

[31:40] >> So, let's get back talking uh about uh

[31:43] in 2026 what Maze uh faced significant

[31:47] backlash from police organizations about

[31:49] the about the you know the logistics and

[31:52] so on of shooting a law enforcement

[31:54] official. Where does this come from?

[31:57] >> How did she get away with this? And and

[32:00] yeah, did she ever take those words

[32:02] back?

[32:04] >> No. You know what's crazy is she doubled

[32:06] down on it. Um that everyone called on

[32:07] her to retract it, even Hobbs. Then she

[32:10] holds another press conference on a

[32:12] Sunday. You know, it's a real, you know,

[32:15] you know, somebody is in crisis mode

[32:18] when they hold a press conference out of

[32:20] their office on a Sunday. But um what

[32:23] hap here's what happened if you want to

[32:25] we'll kind of dig into the weeds here.

[32:27] Chris Mays hates the second amendment.

[32:30] So what she was doing was during the ICE

[32:32] there was this I you know there was ICE

[32:35] um uh

[32:37] >> arresting raising something.

[32:38] >> Yeah. Yeah. Ri I guess rioting is

[32:40] probably the right word. there's like

[32:42] rioting going on with ICE in Minnesota

[32:44] and she hates the Second Amendment and

[32:47] she was conflating that with her hate

[32:50] hatred of federal law enforcement and

[32:52] ICE and she says, you know, Arizona's

[32:56] second amendment laws are so combustible

[32:59] was the word she used. And she she's

[33:01] referring to stand your ground law. She

[33:03] said, "You know, you could shoot an ICE

[33:05] agent and uh uh if if they if they, you

[33:09] know, showed up with a mask on because

[33:11] of our stand your ground laws, they're

[33:13] so combustible." And so what was really

[33:16] going on if if you if you kind of know

[33:18] that know the inside scoop is that she

[33:21] doesn't like the Second Amendment laws

[33:23] and uh she doesn't like law enforcement

[33:26] agents. and she she kind of conflated

[33:29] those two together and uh that's that's

[33:32] when she made these statements that just

[33:34] earned her, you know, the legislature

[33:36] called on her her to resign. That's

[33:38] never happened before. You've never

[33:40] they've never they didn't call on Hobbs

[33:42] to resign. They didn't call on Fontes to

[33:44] resign. They only called on Chris Mays

[33:46] uh to resign. And again, the media lack

[33:49] of coverage on this. It's it's it's a

[33:52] real shame. Arizona is is uh in the dire

[33:57] straits it's in right now politically

[33:59] because we have a media that is not that

[34:01] is uh likes to make Republicans look

[34:04] like they're stupid and Democrats are

[34:06] brilliant.

[34:07] >> So, let's talk about something else uh

[34:09] that concerns me as as a uh citizen here

[34:12] in Arizona. um how how her office has

[34:16] also faced scrutiny over a roughly

[34:18] $300,000

[34:20] no bid contract awarded to political

[34:22] consultant Stacy Champion, a longtime uh

[34:26] political associate and friend of Maize.

[34:28] May's office has defended the

[34:30] arrangement saying the contract complied

[34:32] with state procedure procurement uh

[34:35] requirements and that champion was

[34:37] qualified to do the work. Don't you

[34:40] think that controvers this kind of a

[34:42] controversy raises a broader question

[34:45] about her judgment and her exercise of

[34:48] power?

[34:50] >> 100%. First of all, Stacy Champion,

[34:53] >> it's unbelievable. I mean, this is

[34:55] again, this should be headlines all over

[34:57] the place. If I did this, it would be

[34:59] headlines all over the place, but she

[35:01] can do it because she's a Democrat and

[35:03] the media loves Democrats. Uh, the fact

[35:05] is this, she's very close friends. so

[35:07] close. In fact, Stacy Champion posted on

[35:10] FA on social media. She's so close with

[35:12] Chris May. She does her makeup for her.

[35:15] Um, so th this is uh, you know, to give

[35:18] somebody like that a no big contract.

[35:20] And and here's the crazy part. Again,

[35:23] Chris May, the top law enforcement

[35:25] officer. Stacy Champion, her PR person,

[35:29] has social media posts that say defund

[35:32] the police. Her PR person is a defund

[35:35] the police person. This is why her chief

[35:38] liaison uh law enforcement liaison quit.

[35:41] This is why she has low morale in her

[35:43] office. You literally have a top law

[35:45] enforcement officer that is anti-law

[35:48] enforcement. Um and yeah, this was

[35:51] totally shady to bring on your buddy,

[35:53] give him a 300k no bid contract. Um you

[35:57] know, some people there's supposedly

[35:59] rumors that they're amorous with each

[36:01] other. I don't you know, they have

[36:03] denied that. Those are the rumors

[36:04] though. And I mean, Chris Maize is o

[36:07] openly openly lesbian, but um so we we

[36:11] don't know that. But I mean, that would

[36:13] make it even worse if you have, you

[36:15] know, a person that you're very close to

[36:17] and you're giving them $300,000

[36:21] contract. Obviously, that

[36:23] >> no bid contract as well.

[36:25] >> No bid contract. Yeah, that'll that's

[36:27] gonna, you know, obviously you could use

[36:29] that to benefit yourself. So, it stinks

[36:31] to high heaven. Um, and uh, there this

[36:34] stuff just goes on and on. I mean, I'll

[36:37] guarantee you I'll get in there and

[36:38] we'll find out about a hundred other

[36:40] things that we haven't even heard about

[36:43] that are completely unethical. So

[36:45] Warren, we know how she doggedly uh

[36:48] persecuted through her prosecutions

[36:51] electors, breaking many of them both

[36:54] economically and and spiritually by the

[36:57] way that she she was just on them and

[36:59] and would not would not let loose of

[37:02] that uh particular uh charge um on

[37:06] immigration in sanctuary cities. She

[37:08] seems to re to resemble a nullifier.

[37:11] Okay. Basically flaunting federal

[37:14] control. She says that she works with

[37:15] DEA and HSI and blah blah blah, but

[37:19] she's a nullifier.

[37:22] >> To me, this is very troubling. What What

[37:24] are your thoughts and what would you do

[37:25] to clean that up at the AG's office when

[37:28] you're elected?

[37:29] >> Yeah. The irony here is someone who this

[37:32] the appeals court said she broke the

[37:34] law. She broke our public records laws.

[37:38] She doesn't work well with federal law

[37:40] enforcement. They complain about her.

[37:41] The local law enforcement complains

[37:43] about her. And here she is harassing

[37:47] political opponents, these alternative

[37:49] electors. She's lost in court over and

[37:51] over again. She's trying to start the

[37:54] process over after she lost every in

[37:58] every step. I mean, who does that? Who

[38:01] wastes resources on something like that?

[38:05] Um, it just shows you this is an

[38:07] extremely this is the most

[38:09] unprofessional

[38:11] attorney general that has ever been in

[38:14] office in in Arizona history. Um, she's

[38:18] wasted over $3 million on lawsuits

[38:20] against President Trump. That's $3

[38:23] million that could go to fighting to

[38:26] keep Arizona safe, to fighting

[38:28] criminals. Um, Chris Mays is, you know,

[38:32] best buddies. Uh, criminals love Chris

[38:35] Mace because all of her attention is

[38:38] going to fighting political enemies

[38:41] instead of crime.

[38:42] >> So, we're just we're just about uh at

[38:44] the end of our time today. Uh, Senator,

[38:48] in the debate she accused you and

[38:50] Republicans about ignoring ESA fraud.

[38:53] Uh, but it isn't the amount of so-called

[38:56] e

[38:58] it's not the amount of so-called ESA

[39:01] fraud. It's almost non-existent here in

[39:03] Arizona. Um, talk about the political

[39:06] reasons that she is against ESA and

[39:10] parental choice for their children.

[39:12] >> Well, she hates school choice. She wants

[39:14] her kids to just go to district schools

[39:16] and that's it and they have no other

[39:18] choice. Now, my kids go to district

[39:20] schools, but I believe that parents, not

[39:23] government, should decide where to send

[39:25] their kids. So I support all options,

[39:27] district, ESA, private, homeschool,

[39:30] parents and students should decide. She

[39:33] believes and on everything. This is why

[39:35] the business community supports me. Big

[39:37] and small business have endorsed me, not

[39:39] her, because she thinks government

[39:42] should decide your education. She thinks

[39:45] government should control your business.

[39:48] Um, it it's unreal. And as far as ESA

[39:51] fraud, guess what? There's a cap on it.

[39:53] It's 7500. It's the max that can be paid

[39:56] out. She meanwhile she's allowing

[39:58] unlimited Medicaid fraud, unlimited SNAP

[40:01] fraud, unlimited, you know, that's

[40:04] unlimited. There is no cap. Um so, and

[40:07] when there is ESA fraud, I will

[40:09] absolutely prosecute it, especially when

[40:11] you have um ghost students. I mean,

[40:14] that'll be my top priority is, you know,

[40:16] fake students. But when you have a real

[40:18] student and all these things, she's

[40:20] making stuff up where she's just

[40:22] literally harassing people to try to

[40:24] shut the program down because she hates

[40:26] school choice. Has nothing to do with

[40:28] fraud.

[40:29] >> Warren Peterson, he's the GOP nominee

[40:31] for attorney general. Uh to our

[40:34] audience, this is an election where

[40:36] facts matter and truth matters. The

[40:38] election is about getting our biggest

[40:42] law firm back doing the work uh for the

[40:45] people's business, protecting the

[40:47] public, working closely with law

[40:49] enforcement, and truly looking out for

[40:51] our citizens as specified in the Arizona

[40:54] Constitution. Uh Warren, thanks for

[40:56] joining us today. Maybe we'll try to get

[40:57] you back on. This is an election we

[40:59] cannot afford to lose and we hope that

[41:02] you are successful and work hard all the

[41:04] way through to election day.

[41:06] >> Thank you so much. appreciate your

[41:07] support. Um, with your help, we're going

[41:10] to win this thing.

[41:11] >> All right, just one one last plug. Your

[41:13] uh how do people get uh money to you?

[41:17] >> Um, peterson4ag.com

[41:19] or if you Google Warren Peterson, my

[41:21] website should be one of those top uh

[41:25] results. Peterson is with an E.

[41:27] Peterson4ag.com.

[41:28] Thank you, Bruce.

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[47:34] we get on with uh the doom scrolling and

[47:36] everything else, when you've recruited

[47:39] talent for Visa, Accenture, Google, and

[47:41] Uber, what the hell does that mean?

[47:45] >> So, I was tasked with going out to

[47:47] universities to find the next generation

[47:50] of top talent. So, I would go out and I

[47:52] would speak with students on campus and

[47:55] then I'd run them through the interview

[47:56] process. And the best part of the job

[47:58] was giving students their first career

[48:02] job. They've never had an offer. Um, so

[48:05] it was really exciting. But I was also

[48:07] at the forefront of technology because I

[48:09] was working with the people who were

[48:11] building the apps you know and love.

[48:13] >> So my broadcast partner Bruce tells me

[48:16] that he wastes many hours every weekend

[48:19] watching Facebook reels, posts on X,

[48:22] Instagram and other sites as well as

[48:24] reading and sending texts. He said he's

[48:27] sort of addicted. I'm gonna say he's

[48:29] really addicted. Uh any advice for him?

[48:33] >> So, first of all, it would be asking

[48:35] yourself why you're reaching for your

[48:38] device in the first place. Oftent times

[48:40] when we utilize our technology, it's

[48:42] actually because we're trying to meet

[48:44] very human needs. And so oftent times

[48:46] it'll be distraction. We're looking for

[48:49] distraction from, you know, our lives.

[48:52] The world is a very hard place to be

[48:54] right now. And so having that

[48:55] distraction can actually be positive as

[48:58] long as you're choosing it and as long

[48:59] as you're aware. Maybe you're looking

[49:01] for connection or growth. There's so

[49:04] many different reasons why we might

[49:05] reach for technology. The whole premise

[49:08] of reclaim is having a conversation with

[49:11] yourself as to why. So I would invite

[49:13] Bruce to ask them himself like did I

[49:16] choose this or was this chosen for me?

[49:20] So when [clears throat] you say was it

[49:22] chosen for me, talk about that.

[49:26] >> So I think people are pretty familiar

[49:28] with this idea of the algorithm, but I

[49:30] don't know if they're fully aware of how

[49:32] much the algorithm plays a role in what

[49:35] they're seeing every single day. And it

[49:37] goes beyond just social media. There's

[49:40] also algorithms with online grocery

[49:42] shopping, with which news you see. And

[49:45] so when you start to feel like you're no

[49:48] longer in control where you know you're

[49:51] being served ads based off what you said

[49:54] yesterday or you are seeing things that

[49:57] maybe somewhat align but you weren't

[50:00] aware of a product yesterday and now

[50:03] today you feel like you couldn't live

[50:04] without it and you're kind of being

[50:07] pushed in a way that you're no longer

[50:10] really in control. And I think the best

[50:12] way to put it is we're handing over our

[50:15] our agency in order to have more ease in

[50:18] our lives. And so understanding that

[50:21] give and take is something that's really

[50:23] important, especially in the world of

[50:26] algorithmic uh concerns.

[50:28] >> So you're talking about the

[50:30] >> so annoying.

[50:31] >> Well, it is.

[50:31] >> It's so annoying.

[50:33] >> You're talking about the algorithms and

[50:35] everything else. saw so many Americans

[50:37] wake up and immediately check their cell

[50:40] phones only be bombarded by bad news,

[50:44] political outrage and predictions of

[50:46] disaster uh which we only used to see in

[50:48] the newspapers and and on street corners

[50:51] uh end of the world is coming. What is

[50:54] happening to us psychologically and when

[50:56] does staying informed become an

[50:59] unhealthy obsession?

[51:02] >> So right now we are overwhelmed. There

[51:04] is so much information being thrown at

[51:06] us all the time. So, like you said,

[51:10] before you'd have to wait for the news

[51:11] cycle or you'd wait for the newspaper to

[51:13] arrive. Now, it's in the palm of your

[51:15] hand. And if you wake up in the middle

[51:17] of the night at 3:00 a.m., like a lot of

[51:19] insomniacs do, you are just doomcrolling

[51:22] that over and over. And it gets it to

[51:24] the point where you can't almost look

[51:26] away. And I think what is happening

[51:28] really is this idea of overwhelm. and

[51:32] the fact that you're not overwhelmed,

[51:34] you're actually overstimulated. And so

[51:37] when you don't take a break from

[51:38] technology, you're constantly running in

[51:42] this cycle and your nervous system can't

[51:45] keep up. So what we see is that people

[51:47] actually go into fight orflight mode

[51:50] where they feel like if they look away,

[51:52] it might cause more danger. And so when

[51:56] we are thinking about taking that pause,

[52:00] I think having that conversation of why

[52:03] am I reaching allows you to have a break

[52:06] in that behavior that feels safe where

[52:08] it feels like you can actually have a

[52:10] conversation with yourself as opposed to

[52:13] really living in this cycle of guilt and

[52:15] shame. I think that many of us know that

[52:18] our devices have kind of taken over

[52:20] certain aspects of our life, but until

[52:22] we can get through that guilt and shame

[52:25] and realize we're all struggling with

[52:27] this. It doesn't matter if you're a CEO

[52:29] or a student, this is something that we

[52:31] are dealing with. And until we can start

[52:33] talking about it with ourselves, with

[52:35] each other, uh we're going to live in

[52:37] that that state of overwhelm.

[52:40] that end I read that after a decade of

[52:42] inside uh Google, Uber and other major

[52:45] tech companies, you found yourself

[52:47] hiding behind a potted plant at Google

[52:50] struggling to breathe. What happened?

[52:53] >> Yes. So, I had a stress induced asthma

[52:57] attack. Um and it was something where I

[53:00] was working in this very fast-paced

[53:02] environment. I mean, it's Google, right?

[53:04] So, you are giving everything to the job

[53:06] because you made it and you feel very uh

[53:10] there's a lot of pride. You want to make

[53:12] sure that you're giving your best that

[53:14] you're putting your best foot forward.

[53:16] And a lot of times what I've seen is

[53:18] high performers actually end up in this

[53:20] cycle more often than not. And so what

[53:22] happened was I was constantly on my

[53:25] computer when I wasn't working. I was

[53:28] deep into reels. I was always reading

[53:31] like I take the corporate shuttle

[53:32] sometimes two hours a day. Um and so

[53:36] what happened was I just I burned out. I

[53:38] broke down. And I think at that moment

[53:42] it wasn't just what I was experiencing.

[53:44] I was also sitting on the Google bus and

[53:46] watching every single person on that bus

[53:49] bent over a screen almost like the

[53:52] zombie apocalypse. And I realized

[53:55] that potted plant was a line in the sand

[53:58] of this is too much. I have given too

[54:02] much of myself and now I need to dial it

[54:04] back and figure out what a healthy

[54:07] relationship with technology is and even

[54:09] within the workplace, right? Because I

[54:11] think so often we think about healthy

[54:13] technology within our personal lives,

[54:16] but oftentimes it's actually within our

[54:18] work lives as well. So to that end, is

[54:22] big tech profiting from our anxiety?

[54:28] >> You know, you've you've worked in these

[54:30] companies. Uh how intentionally and uh

[54:33] are these technology platforms designed

[54:35] to capture our attention and uh polarize

[54:38] us politically and everything else?

[54:41] >> They're absolutely tuned to do that. I

[54:44] think that that is something that we

[54:46] struggle with every single day. Uh but

[54:49] really what we're seeing especially in

[54:53] the news is that these companies are

[54:55] finally being held accountable. In March

[54:57] 2026, we saw a lot of litigation come

[55:00] down saying that they were aware that

[55:04] the design that they had created was

[55:07] creating addiction. And I think what

[55:10] came to me because this this actually

[55:12] happened after the book went to print.

[55:14] But it was this realization that finally

[55:16] people are waking up to say yes they're

[55:19] designing the different platforms and

[55:22] technologies to keep you logged on and

[55:26] silent. And once that came through it

[55:29] was like design does matter and how

[55:32] they're designing matters. And now I

[55:33] think they're finally being held

[55:34] accountable. And so it can shift from

[55:37] being a personal situation where you

[55:39] have to step up and say, "I don't know

[55:41] if these companies are ever going to do

[55:42] anything to now seeing that the

[55:45] government is stepping in and they're

[55:47] actually going to start having more

[55:48] guard rails."

[55:50] >> Let me ask a couple of questions. These

[55:53] may sound like goofy or far-fetched um

[55:57] so but I'll just try it anyway. People

[56:00] have speculated that since co there's

[56:03] been a a very significant change in the

[56:07] the mood and the tenor of society, not

[56:10] just here in the United States, but all

[56:12] around the world. We find a lot more

[56:14] unrest and and disqu in in the in the

[56:18] polit in the public square, the

[56:19] political uh realm uh than than it seems

[56:22] like we've had in in a long long time,

[56:24] probably going back to to the late60s.

[56:27] How much of what you write about in

[56:30] Reclaimed about our reliance on uh

[56:34] electronic devices and our attention to

[56:36] them has maybe had an adverse impact on

[56:40] society and and you know maybe

[56:43] unintended uh about how society is so

[56:46] upset and and angry all the time and how

[56:49] that has changed our lives.

[56:53] >> I think it's a really fair point. COVID

[56:55] changed everything. When we look back on

[56:58] precoid versus postcoid, we can really

[57:01] see a difference because I think we're

[57:03] really still living in these six-foot

[57:05] bubbles and people aren't really talking

[57:06] about it enough of, you know, we got so

[57:10] comfortable being siloed. And at the

[57:13] same time, there were all of these major

[57:17] tech products being launched, right?

[57:19] Instagram reels, for example, wasn't

[57:21] launched until August 2020 during the

[57:23] peak of the pandemic. Uh we look at

[57:26] other platforms like Uber Eats that

[57:28] didn't really shoot up until after like

[57:31] during the pandemic because people

[57:32] needed groceries and food delivered. So

[57:35] we got really comfortable with these

[57:36] technologies. A lot of these

[57:37] technologies had to be launched uh to

[57:41] the public very quickly in order to meet

[57:44] a need that we had never seen before.

[57:46] And so as we got more and more

[57:48] comfortable with these technologies, we

[57:51] started to outsource different things.

[57:53] So we started to outsource uh the need

[57:55] for connection and we got really

[57:57] comfortable with communicating with

[57:59] people via Zoom. Um we got very

[58:01] comfortable sitting in online chat rooms

[58:04] and I think the more we kind of gave to

[58:08] the products and services the more

[58:12] siloed we actually became. So when you

[58:14] think about it, the algorithm is serving

[58:16] you what's going to keep you logged on

[58:17] and silent. It's not going to serve you

[58:19] what's going to be best for your

[58:20] community or best for your health. And

[58:23] so understanding that with COVID, we

[58:27] slowly and slowly became more siloed.

[58:29] And now we're living in this place where

[58:32] nobody else knows your digital life but

[58:34] you. Nobody knows what you're being

[58:36] served on a day-to-day basis. But that

[58:39] is actually pretty dangerous because

[58:40] when you think about it, it's

[58:43] reinforcing what you already believe or

[58:46] what upsets you. And so that's just

[58:49] creating more anger, more angst, more

[58:52] division among humans. And I think that

[58:55] that's where the dangerous pieces.

[58:57] >> Well, to that end, u you know, are we

[59:00] losing the ability to think for

[59:02] ourselves when people spend hours

[59:04] consuming commentary, viral clips, and

[59:06] social media arguments? Um, how does

[59:09] that affect our independent thinking,

[59:12] critical thinking, and the ability to

[59:13] distinguish facts from emotional

[59:16] manipulation?

[59:18] >> I think that it really hinges on

[59:20] confirmation bias because it's just

[59:22] confirming what we already believe. And

[59:24] so that can be very dangerous because

[59:26] it's not showing us any outside

[59:30] perspective. It's not showing us the

[59:32] other side of the story, right? And it

[59:36] makes it so we just live in this well

[59:39] what I think is right. And I have

[59:42] whether it's a video or like a feed that

[59:45] shows you it over and over and over

[59:47] again. I see this a lot with

[59:49] relationships. What is being showed to

[59:51] women is very different than what is

[59:53] being shown to men. And so it creates

[59:55] this major divide of you saying like no

[59:58] well this is what I believe and I've

[60:01] seen over a hundred videos uh that say

[60:04] the same thing. And so you're wrong

[60:06] because I'm being shown this. Or when we

[60:09] think about AI, right? People are having

[60:11] parasocial relationships with their AI.

[60:14] And that again, they show like 40% of

[60:16] the time it is agreeing with you whether

[60:18] or not you're right or wrong. And so

[60:21] that's where it starts to feel like

[60:23] we're more and more living in our own

[60:25] dimensions and we are less open to

[60:30] exploring other ideas to having an

[60:33] actual conversation with another human

[60:35] because we're constantly be being told

[60:37] we're right. And so when we enter that

[60:39] conversation with another human being,

[60:41] it can feel very exhausting because

[60:43] you're like, why can't you just agree

[60:45] with me? Like my AI thinks I'm the

[60:47] smartest person in the room. And so

[60:49] understanding that that is by design and

[60:53] the more we can talk to other humans the

[60:56] more we can engage the more we can grow

[60:58] together because it's not being exactly

[61:01] like the person sitting next to you.

[61:03] It's having that humanity piece to be

[61:06] able to have the conversation to be able

[61:08] to understand what is it like to walk in

[61:11] your shoes? Why do you have this

[61:13] perspective? Because I think when we

[61:15] think about it, it's like what is the

[61:17] lived experience versus the AI response

[61:22] that is just scraped from the internet.

[61:24] So to that end, it's uh also costing us

[61:28] in our family relationships. When

[61:30] parents are more concerned about looking

[61:32] at their phones and ignoring their kids

[61:34] and ignoring their spouses, it's putting

[61:36] marriage at risk. It's putting their uh

[61:38] family dynamics completely at risk and

[61:41] uh basically uh sacrificing simple joys

[61:45] of life for this doom scrolling that

[61:48] you're talking about. So how do we get

[61:51] away from that?

[61:53] I think it's through intentional

[61:57] experiences. So I think oftentimes we

[62:00] all have somebody in our life that

[62:02] happens to look at their phone more

[62:03] often than we'd like in our

[62:05] relationship. And a lot of us can feel

[62:07] the difference, right, over the last 5

[62:09] to 10 years, sometimes even two years,

[62:11] right? And when we are able to identify

[62:14] it in somebody else, we're able to then

[62:17] reflect on ourselves. And so I always

[62:19] say that if you have somebody in your

[62:21] life like that, how do you create an

[62:23] intentional experience to be able to

[62:25] pull them back into the real world? So

[62:27] that could be your child, but for me

[62:29] it's actually my mom. And so figuring

[62:31] out when she's doomscrolling, how can I

[62:34] bring her back in? How can I have a

[62:38] conversation? And oftentimes, believe it

[62:40] or not, it starts with talking about

[62:42] their feed, about the videos because you

[62:45] are then bridging the gap between what

[62:48] are they so um into right now? Like what

[62:52] are they what are they like doom

[62:54] scrolling and how can you then bring

[62:55] that back? So I always find like cooking

[62:58] videos because then can go out into the

[63:00] real world and actually cook together.

[63:02] So we follow like the same people who do

[63:04] like cooking demonstrations. Um, there's

[63:07] also so many different things like if

[63:09] you have a different hobby because I

[63:10] think when we think about the idea of

[63:14] human experience, it's not just watching

[63:17] somebody else doing what you want. It's

[63:20] watching what they're doing and then

[63:22] applying that to your real life and then

[63:25] saying, who else can I bring along with

[63:27] me on this journey? And so having that

[63:30] conversation, I think, is super helpful.

[63:32] Um, you talk about in the book uh having

[63:37] presence in your life

[63:40] and that's not p r e s n ts it's p r e n

[63:44] c e presence if I if I spelled that

[63:47] right. Um, have you discovered presence

[63:50] and what does that look like for you?

[63:53] I have and for me it is being open to

[63:59] not being productive of being fully in

[64:02] the moment and not worrying about my

[64:04] to-do list, not worrying about what I

[64:07] need to accomplish today to feel like

[64:10] enough. It's sitting down with myself

[64:12] and checking in and saying, "How do I

[64:15] feel today? What do I actually need

[64:17] today?" And so I do that in the first 10

[64:20] minutes. And I also do it whenever I'm

[64:22] feeling overwhelmed. I'll just go

[64:24] outside and sit in nature and not feel

[64:28] like every moment has to produce

[64:30] something because I think that that's

[64:32] where we start to feel like we're not

[64:35] enough. Um I also find that when I am

[64:38] watching my reals and my videos instead

[64:41] of saving like a million, oh that's a

[64:44] good idea, I'm going to save that. Oh,

[64:46] that's a great idea. I'm going to save

[64:47] that. applying what I call the onetoone

[64:49] rule where it allows me to say this is a

[64:52] really cool idea and I'm going to take

[64:54] this and I'm not going to consume any

[64:55] more content until I take action in real

[64:59] life on this piece. And so the reason I

[65:02] say that is because when we're watching

[65:05] different content, our brain is actually

[65:08] tricked into believing that we did that.

[65:10] So if we watch somebody working on their

[65:13] life, if we watch somebody building

[65:14] their business, we become almost like

[65:17] watchers of their success and our brain

[65:20] kind of calculates that as our own

[65:22] success. So stopping that pattern and

[65:24] saying this is the one thing I'm going

[65:26] to take action on before I consume

[65:28] anything else.

[65:29] >> Give me an example of that.

[65:31] >> So for me, I'm a personal development

[65:34] like I'm a devote there. I love watching

[65:38] different uh people and so I think for

[65:41] me it's saying

[65:43] what's this one piece? So it's like

[65:45] let's see a good example of this would

[65:47] be watching like anything by Brennan

[65:49] Buchard uh where he has different

[65:52] examples of things you should do every

[65:53] morning or things that you could apply

[65:56] to your life. So watching a personal

[65:58] development guru in a way and then

[66:00] applying that to your specific life. Um,

[66:03] so he's actually the one who got me off

[66:05] my phone first thing in the morning. Um,

[66:07] so I will use that example. This is

[66:09] before I wrote the book. Um, and so

[66:11] saying to myself like I'm gonna

[66:13] challenge myself to do this as opposed

[66:15] to every morning waking up and watching

[66:18] like 15 minutes of personal development

[66:20] content. How can I actually apply the

[66:22] development content that I have already

[66:26] before I consume more?

[66:29] Well, you know, u speaking of our

[66:32] addictions, uh I have to sit here and uh

[66:35] the clock says it's 9:03 and we have to

[66:38] close up for the day. Sadly, this has

[66:40] been this been fascinating. Heather

[66:42] Henderson, her book is Reclaimed. How uh

[66:45] how to stop scrolling through your life

[66:47] and start living it. How does our

[66:49] audience get your book?

[66:51] >> So, it is available everywhere books are

[66:53] sold um and on Amazon as well. I think

[66:56] it's a great read for me for [laughter]

[66:58] for starters.

[66:59] >> And Heather, my phone doesn't have apps

[67:02] on it. [gasps]

[67:03] >> Oh, I love that.

[67:05] >> So

[67:06] >> that's why that's why it was a special

[67:08] person. Well, thanks very much, Heather.

[67:10] Appreciate you joining us today.

[67:11] >> It's been great.

[67:12] >> Sadly,

[67:14] >> sadly, it's time for us to close up shop

[67:16] for the day. Thanks so much for spending

[67:18] time with us. and our guest on Inside

[67:21] Track, Senate President and GOP nominee

[67:24] for Arizona Attorney General, Warren

[67:25] Peterson, and author of Reclaimed.

[67:28] That's Heather Henderson. How to stop

[67:29] scrolling through your life and start

[67:31] living it. All of our Inside Track

[67:34] episodes are available on Live the Dream

[67:36] Media, Facebook live page, YouTube, and

[67:39] Apple and X. So again, we're promoting

[67:41] the same thing that that Heather's

[67:43] against.

[67:44] >> Exactly. Sorry, Heather. We're going to

[67:46] be doom scrolling again. Please uh tune

[67:48] in again next week. We've got another

[67:50] action-packed show planned for you

[67:52] talking about energy. Until then, this

[67:54] is Ed Wilkinson

[67:55] >> and Bruce Ash.

[67:56] >> See you again in 167 hours.

[67:58] >> Checking your damn phone.