Nightline (ABC) - 1999-05-28

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[0:01] Earlier this week, we told you about an

[0:03] Iowa college student and his attempt to

[0:05] build the world's largest house of

[0:06] cards. Well, he did. And so today on

[0:09] live television, with the help of a leaf

[0:11] blower, that house of cards came

[0:14] tumbling down.

[0:20] After all that work, is there

[0:21] satisfaction in doing this? Brian Berg

[0:23] used 1,500 decks of cards to build his

[0:27] 25 foot tall tower. Wow. There it goes.

[0:31] All those hours, all that painstaking

[0:33] work. Now, Berg is already thinking of

[0:35] building yet another card tower for the

[0:37] record books. What? One record's not

[0:39] good enough. He says the next one would

[0:41] be 75 to 100 ft tall. And that one would

[0:44] take him about 6 months to build.

[0:48] >> And they're still playing 52 card pickup

[0:50] there.

[0:50] >> [laughter]

[0:51] >> 52,000 card pickup.

[0:53] >> How about a last look at the forecast?

[0:54] >> I think it would have been more fun if

[0:55] he just sort of like ran into that

[0:57] house.

[0:57] >> I was thinking that. Yeah. Well, this

[0:59] weekend going to be a great time to get

[1:01] outside. Few clouds tomorrow morning,

[1:02] but then sunny skies, highs by late

[1:04] afternoon tomorrow into the lower 70s.

[1:06] We'll be in the 70s still Sunday and

[1:09] Monday. Enjoy it. [music]

[1:10] >> All right, we're out of here. Have a

[1:11] terrific holiday weekend.

[1:13] >> Good night.

[1:21] >> [music]

[1:21] >> Fisher broadcasting.

[1:28] >> This is a Night Line Friday night

[1:30] special.

[1:32] >> Day after day, she wrote down what she

[1:35] saw.

[1:38] >> Even if they killed me,

[1:40] >> someone might find it and know about

[1:42] what the Serps have done to us

[1:44] Albanians. her struggle for survival.

[1:48] >> They started burning most of the

[1:49] village. We heard them singing and

[1:52] shouting that they will burn us all. We

[1:55] stayed silent. If they heard us, they

[1:58] will kill us.

[2:03] >> And the constant reminder of the pain.

[2:05] >> Daddy was taken away at 12:00 noon. He

[2:09] was taken toward the schoolhouse.

[2:12] We were crying. A policeman told us,

[2:16] >> "Don't worry. We are just going to

[2:18] question him. We will not kill your

[2:20] father."

[2:21] >> Tonight, to Huda's diary, a young woman

[2:25] bears witness to the terror of Kosovo.

[2:31] [music and bell]

[2:32] From ABC News,

[2:37] [music] this is Night Line.

[2:40] Reporting from Washington, Ted [music]

[2:42] CP.

[2:46] >> Most of us are destined not to leave any

[2:48] monuments behind. In truth, when you

[2:51] consider what time, the weather, and

[2:53] pigeons do to monuments, and how rarely

[2:55] most passers by pay any attention to

[2:57] them, you may wonder why people care so

[3:00] much about them. The fact is that most

[3:03] of us want to be remembered at least by

[3:05] our families, our own communities. Even

[3:07] if there was never much about us worth

[3:09] memorializing, if nothing else, we want

[3:12] to carve our initials into the walls of

[3:14] time. Something that says we were here.

[3:18] That is probably why a lot of people

[3:20] keep diaries, recording the mundane and

[3:22] the interesting, sometimes so close to

[3:25] both, that they cannot tell the two

[3:27] apart. Every once in a while, a diary

[3:30] becomes a totally unexpected amalgam of

[3:33] history, optimism, and courage. An

[3:36] account that is written without much

[3:37] hope of ever being read. A small, clear

[3:40] voice in the midst of chaos and madness.

[3:44] That is what we offer you tonight. A

[3:47] young woman's diary written in terrible

[3:49] times and conditions. If it brings to

[3:52] mind echoes of Anne Frank's famous

[3:54] diary, you should know that in all

[3:56] probability, our heroine tonight has

[3:58] never even heard of it. Her story is

[4:01] reported by ABC News correspondent Mike

[4:03] Lee.

[4:06] 20-year-old Tahuda Spihu is but one of

[4:08] the estimated 800,000 ethnic Albanians

[4:11] who've been forced out of Kosovo along

[4:13] with her family. In one sense, her story

[4:16] is like so many others.

[4:19] Before the war, a happy life among loved

[4:22] ones in a small mountain village. Four

[4:24] generations taking care of one another,

[4:27] minding their cattle and crops, building

[4:29] a new house as the family expands, a

[4:32] well full of water.

[4:34] Life was good.

[4:37] Now, after weeks of hiding and on the

[4:40] run, the loneliness, the helplessness

[4:42] over relatives and friends murdered and

[4:44] missing, and the terror that lingers

[4:47] long after escaped from Kosovo. But

[4:50] there's also something about Tahuda

[4:52] Spehu, which makes her different. The

[4:55] moment the Serbs forced her and her

[4:56] family from their home, this peasant

[4:59] girl, who has never seen much of the

[5:01] outside world, took it upon herself to

[5:03] become a war correspondent of sorts, not

[5:06] knowing if she would ever have an

[5:07] audience, yet writing down what was

[5:10] happening around her. First in a small

[5:13] book, then later on larger pages.

[5:16] Friday, March 25th, the second day of

[5:18] the NATO bombing campaign.

[5:22] It was 5:00 in the morning. There were

[5:25] nine of us in our family in our village

[5:27] of Castriot.

[5:29] We heard the Serbs coming. So we were

[5:32] forced to leave and go to a safer house.

[5:35] We looked back and saw the Serbs burning

[5:37] down our village. And so her journey had

[5:40] begun. The diary gradually became a

[5:42] narrative of the war as seen and felt by

[5:45] one victim with pen and paper. Along the

[5:48] road, we saw many dead people, women,

[5:51] children, and old people. Parts of their

[5:55] bodies had been cut into pieces by the

[5:57] Serb bombs.

[5:58] >> Moments ago, they were sleeping in their

[6:00] beds. Now, they were refugees. Dahuda

[6:04] says she usually wrote in her diary

[6:06] after midnight when the Serbs were not

[6:08] around, using candle [music] light and

[6:10] blacking out her windows with blankets.

[6:15] I decided to make a diary to remember

[6:17] what the Serbs did to write and not

[6:20] forget. Even though it was a difficult

[6:23] time, I wanted to write.

[6:26] Even if they killed me, someone might

[6:28] find it and know about what the Serbs

[6:31] have done to us Albanians.

[6:35] So, as the world watched the big story

[6:37] unfold,

[6:39] from Belgrade,

[6:45] from US warships and from the borders of

[6:48] surrounding countries,

[6:52] there were inside Kosovo thousands of

[6:54] unreported stories unfolding, many of

[6:57] them in the ethnic Albanian region of

[6:59] Drenita and one of them in the village

[7:01] of Kodonita, recorded by Tahudas Bahu.

[7:05] Saturday, March 26th.

[7:08] >> At daylight this morning, the Serbs

[7:10] began to bomb Cla

[7:13] where we have now come in hopes of

[7:15] hiding. The Serp infantry entered the

[7:18] village 7:00 a.m. Some of them had

[7:20] colored their faces with green and black

[7:23] paint and looked like monkeys. Others

[7:26] were wearing masks.

[7:29] They did not know we were in the house.

[7:32] They began shooting and the bullets

[7:34] broke our windows. Then the Serbs came

[7:37] into the garden and threw a grenade into

[7:40] our room. We froze. We were waiting for

[7:44] it to explode when I shouted to Debbie

[7:47] that there was yet another danger. Our

[7:51] gas stove was on and the townhouse will

[7:54] blow up. Daddy said, "Don't talk. The

[7:58] Serps will know we are here and slit our

[8:00] throats.

[8:02] We held our breath and waited to die

[8:04] from the grenade. But somehow daddy

[8:07] turned off the grenade. The serps were

[8:10] suddenly distracted by noises and

[8:12] another house and ran away. They started

[8:16] burning most of the village. We heard

[8:18] them singing and shouting that they will

[8:21] burn us all. We stayed silent. If they

[8:24] heard us, they will kill us.

[8:27] >> Day after day, Tahjuda wrote it all

[8:29] down. Sunday, March 27th, the Serbs

[8:33] stole our tractor. Monday, March 28th,

[8:36] the Serbs bombed our village again.

[8:38] Later, they came right past our window,

[8:40] but God somehow made their eyes blind

[8:42] and their ears deaf. Other refugees came

[8:45] to our house tonight. Some had been

[8:47] beaten and were starving. We shared our

[8:50] food with them in secret. And there was

[8:53] the moment on Wednesday, March 30th,

[8:55] when she realized that in war, some

[8:57] people will do almost anything to save

[8:59] themselves, even if it means sacrificing

[9:02] others. Today, we discovered that some

[9:05] of our own Albanian neighbors are spies.

[9:08] They told the Serbs where to find our

[9:09] young men and were laughing while some

[9:12] were beaten. Then on Monday, April 12th,

[9:15] as bad as things have been so far, they

[9:18] were about to become worse for the Spahu

[9:20] family.

[9:37] My brother was taken away today.

[9:40] The Serb police came to our house and

[9:42] just took him. Throughout Kosovo, there

[9:45] had been reports of young Albanian men

[9:47] like Issach being taken prisoner by the

[9:49] Serbs and that many of them had been

[9:51] executed. Tahjuda had no way of knowing

[9:54] what would happen to her brother. The

[9:57] next day, April 13th, the police came

[9:59] again.

[10:00] >> Daddy said,

[10:02] "I'm ready to die for the Albanian's

[10:05] nation. But with God's help, your

[10:08] children will have a long life." As soon

[10:11] as daddy spoke those words, the serps

[10:14] gun then appeared.

[10:15] >> Her father, 57year-old Reysus Bih who

[10:18] was a popular teacher in an elementary

[10:20] school.

[10:23] >> Daddy was taken away at 12:00 noon. He

[10:27] was taken toward the schoolhouse.

[10:30] We were crying. A policeman told us,

[10:34] "Don't worry. We are just going to

[10:36] question him. We will not kill your

[10:38] father.

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[13:25] her Kosovo diary would be an emotional

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[13:30] decisive moments of her life and of

[13:33] those she loves. Tuesday, April 13th.

[13:38] Daddy forgot to put on his shoes, so I

[13:41] gave them to him because the Serps

[13:43] orders us to come out of the house. It

[13:46] was 12:00 noon. They separated Daddy

[13:50] from all the others.

[13:59] I saw the Albanian woman who was spying

[14:01] for the Serbs. She was smoking with the

[14:04] Serbs and laughing.

[14:07] I closed my eyes and I saw in my mind

[14:10] Daddy being massacred even though he was

[14:12] still standing there. I fainted and fell

[14:16] down to the ground.

[14:18] When I woke up, daddy was close to me

[14:20] with a bucket of water and he said,

[14:23] "Don't be afraid, my daughter. They will

[14:26] not kill [music] me."

[14:27] >> Then, writes to Huda, an argument broke

[14:30] out among the Serb gunmen. Some of them

[14:32] wanted to release her father. But the

[14:34] ethnic Albanian she called a spy

[14:37] gestured to take him away.

[14:40] >> After daddy disappeared, more Serbs

[14:42] came. They had taken drugs and had black

[14:46] paint on their faces with axes and

[14:50] sticks and guns in their hands. They

[14:53] ordered us to put our hands up, then

[14:56] shouted to us, "Go to NATO."

[15:00] They began shooting towards us, just

[15:03] missing our heads and our feet. They

[15:05] told us to stay in the house or we will

[15:08] cut you up and burn you. For nearly 4

[15:12] hours, Tahjuda and her family waited

[15:14] inside the house, surrounded by Serb

[15:16] gunmen, not knowing what was happening

[15:18] to her father, Risa. Finally, they heard

[15:21] the Serbs leave the village, and they

[15:22] went out to search. When we arrived at

[15:26] the schoolhouse,

[15:28] Daddy was there.

[15:30] He was lying down with his eyes open and

[15:33] his right hand extended like he wanted

[15:36] to tell me something.

[15:38] I said,

[15:40] "Daddy is not dead." I rushed over to

[15:43] him. I touched his hands and legs and

[15:46] they were okay. Then my younger brother,

[15:49] Castrio, put his hand on Dy's chest.

[15:56] >> There was no sign of a bullet in his

[15:58] head. I thought he had just fainted. I

[16:02] opened his coat and shirt. I put my hand

[16:05] inside his body and my hand was full of

[16:08] blood.

[16:13] >> We saw a big hole made by a bullet

[16:17] through his heart.

[16:20] >> Tahuda wrote that she was determined her

[16:22] father's body would not be lost among

[16:24] the thousands buried in mass graves. His

[16:27] story is the story of Kosovo and must be

[16:30] remembered, she said.

[16:39] Someone left a wheelbarrow at the

[16:42] school. Castrid and me put daddy in it

[16:46] and pushed him to the house where we

[16:48] were staying.

[16:57] After

[17:19] that, we opened the grave and buried

[17:23] that inside.

[17:30] I wrote my daddy's name on a piece of

[17:32] wood in order that the grape of my daddy

[17:37] does not get lost

[17:39] because there have been so many victims.

[17:47] >> She has fainted several times since her

[17:50] ordeal in Kosovo. Exhaustion and

[17:52] emotional stress.

[17:55] Tuta concludes her diary and I'll be

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[21:04] says there are thousands of ethnic

[21:06] Albanians like her, youngsters who've

[21:08] suddenly been forced to become heads of

[21:10] their families.

[21:16] Toyota now takes care of her

[21:18] grandparents who can hardly walk.

[21:21] >> Her mother in such a state of shock she

[21:24] hardly talks

[21:26] and her younger brother and sister

[21:28] 15year-old Castriot and 12year-old

[21:30] Blerta

[21:35] is more important than ever to us now

[21:38] because she's in charge.

[21:42] She did something very important for me.

[21:46] >> She made sure no one could tell lies

[21:48] about how he died.

[21:53] >> Blerta, inspired by her sister's diary,

[21:56] has also begun writing a poem to her

[21:59] father.

[22:04] >> My daddy, somewhere far he has gone.

[22:08] Somewhere far he remains for Koso he

[22:11] died. I turned my head back and your

[22:14] grave I see the bullet in your heart I

[22:17] will never forget. My dear daddy I love

[22:20] you so much. All my life I will never

[22:23] forget you. I write for my daddy who

[22:27] gave his life for freedom.

[22:31] >> Jesus by who also gave his children the

[22:34] love of writing. He kept a diary of his

[22:37] own. It is buried with him.

[22:41] Tuda says that when Kosovo is free

[22:44] again, she will have her father's body

[22:46] moved to a cemetery in their home

[22:48] village. But before he's rearied, she

[22:51] will reach inside her daddy's coat one

[22:53] last time.

[22:57] >> I hope that the diary of my daddy is not

[23:00] ruined. I hope that I find it. Tahuda

[23:05] continues to write down the details she

[23:07] remembers about their ordeal. The story

[23:09] of Kosovo as experienced by one family

[23:13] through the eyes and heart of one young

[23:15] woman who says in only a few weeks she

[23:18] has aged many years. How has this

[23:22] experience changed you?

[23:38] It's changed me very much.

[23:52] And Mike Lee joins us now from London.

[23:54] Mike, uh, you said at the end that she

[23:56] is still continuing to write her

[23:58] recollections. Is she still keeping a

[24:00] diary of what is happening to them now?

[24:04] >> Both, Ted. She's keeping a diary of

[24:06] what's what they're going through in

[24:08] Durus, a town near Albania, but also

[24:11] every day she says she remembers more

[24:12] and more details of those horrible days

[24:15] leading up to and including her father's

[24:17] murder. And in fact, she's written a

[24:19] diary that never made it out of Kosovo.

[24:22] her original notebook, much like the

[24:24] small black one you saw, when she got to

[24:26] the border, the Serbs were taking

[24:28] documents off of people, and she was

[24:29] afraid that if they found that diary

[24:31] with all those things in it, that she

[24:33] and an entire her entire family would

[24:35] would be killed on the spot. So, she

[24:37] tore it up and found a well right near

[24:39] the border and quickly um put it down

[24:41] the well and that's where it is now,

[24:42] probably never to be found again.

[24:44] >> Has she modified her views of why she is

[24:47] keeping it that way? Did you talk to her

[24:49] about that at all?

[24:51] No, it's been consistent. She just

[24:53] wanted to remember her father and she

[24:57] wanted her family and anyone else

[24:58] interested in reading it to know what

[25:01] she says the Serbs had done to her.

[25:02] >> Tell me a little more about about her

[25:05] educational background. Uh she writes

[25:07] well. How how much education does she

[25:09] have?

[25:10] Well, a a normal uh high school

[25:13] education as it were, but keep in mind

[25:14] that in Kosovo over the last few years,

[25:16] Albanians had set up their own schools

[25:19] are alternative to the Serb schools and

[25:21] they were forced to do that because the

[25:22] Serbs withdrew their formal education.

[25:25] And also her father was a high school

[25:27] teacher, a literate man. In fact, the

[25:29] whole family seemed to be literate. And

[25:31] another point about the the fact that

[25:34] they were so articulate is they'd always

[25:36] talk to each other. her her father had

[25:38] instilled that as well as writing. And

[25:41] even in this this adversity and in exile

[25:44] where they have no television and no

[25:46] radio, they talk to each other all the

[25:48] time. And I think that's number one why

[25:50] they're such a a close-knit family and

[25:52] number two why they're so articulate.

[25:54] >> Her mother, I mean, you say articulate,

[25:56] her mother is is in a sense paralyzed by

[25:59] the memories of what she's just endured.

[26:01] Uh you think the family is beginning to

[26:04] come out of it a little bit?

[26:06] >> I don't think so. I think it's going to

[26:07] be a long time. Her mother used to be a

[26:09] teacher, by the way. She does have

[26:11] relatives in in Europe who send a little

[26:12] bit of money for the rent that they're

[26:14] paying and they're outside the system.

[26:15] They're not in refugee camps, so they

[26:17] need that kind of shelter and

[26:18] protection. And I'm I worry about them.

[26:20] I tried to get them into a tent camp,

[26:22] but they had heard so many horror

[26:23] stories about uh refugee camps. Rightly

[26:26] or wrongly, they felt that that they

[26:28] would be [music] abused, possibly even

[26:30] by the local Albanians or possibly even

[26:33] raped. So, they've chosen to stay where

[26:34] they are. I know you have said that uh

[26:37] it is her intention at least their

[26:39] intention to go back home again because

[26:41] she wants to reberry her father. She

[26:43] wants to retrieve his diary. Do they

[26:46] want to live in Kosovo again?

[26:49] Absolutely. No no no question about it.

[26:51] I mean it's it's possible that that a

[26:53] lot of urbanites that were ethnic

[26:55] Albanian in Kosovo may get abroad and

[26:57] not want to go back. But these people

[26:59] Tuda and her family they were very much

[27:01] tied to the land. They lived on the

[27:03] land. They were peasant people who lived

[27:05] in the mountain and that's all they can

[27:07] think about right now is getting back.

[27:08] And I tell you, if that road were open,

[27:10] no matter what they thought the dangers

[27:12] were, if there was a chance of getting

[27:14] back, I'm sure they would try. But I

[27:16] really I'm very concerned about what

[27:18] kind of life that her and her family are

[27:20] going to have. She is the leader of that

[27:22] family now. Most of the the men are

[27:24] either in Europe, they they have to work

[27:26] to send money to her. Her father, of

[27:28] course, is dead. and her older brother

[27:30] um Essat is is missing and quite

[27:33] possibly may be dead. So, it's going to

[27:34] be very very difficult for them when

[27:37] they go back no matter what NATO or the

[27:38] West does for them.

[27:40] >> Mike Lee, thank you very much for

[27:41] bringing us that story. I'll be back in

[27:44] a moment.

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