CBS / WFOR - Presidential Debate (post-debate) - 2004-09-30 - 4 of 5

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[1:45] >> Good evening. I'm Maggie Rodriguez.

[1:46] >> I'm Rob Hanahan at the University of

[1:48] Miami. We have reaction and an insider's

[1:50] perspective to the debate. Live team

[1:52] coverage next at 11.

[1:56] >> Well, who, if anybody won tonight's

[1:59] showdown in Florida? Our CBS News

[2:01] correspondents, John Roberts, who is our

[2:03] chief White House correspondent, and

[2:05] Byron Pittz from the Kerry campaign.

[2:08] We'll give us some analysis now looking

[2:11] at what happened tonight and looking

[2:13] ahead to the rest of the campaign.

[2:14] First, John Roberts. John. Well, Dan, I

[2:16] thought that tonight's debate or its

[2:18] joint appearance was as close to a draw

[2:19] as you could possibly come at one of

[2:21] these. Both candidates show that they

[2:23] understood the uh the issues very well.

[2:24] We saw in here the Bush strategy, of

[2:26] course, to hammer on John Kerry with the

[2:28] mantra, can't lead, can't lead, can't

[2:30] lead. You don't say things like wrong

[2:32] war, wrong time, wrong place if you're

[2:33] the commander-in-chief. President Bush

[2:35] saying, I'm the commander-in-chief. I

[2:37] know what it's like. I'm the one who

[2:38] talks to leaders all the time. I know

[2:40] what kind of resolve they're looking

[2:41] for, and they're not going to follow

[2:43] somebody whose core values keep

[2:44] shifting. I was a little bit surprised

[2:46] though off the top of the debate that

[2:48] the president seemed to stutter a little

[2:49] bit starting some of his answers

[2:51] particularly since much of what we heard

[2:53] tonight comes right off of his stump

[2:55] speech. I only counted one verbal

[2:57] convolution on the part of the

[2:58] president. That was when uh he

[2:59] apparently said or appeared to say at

[3:01] least that the uh the insurgents were

[3:03] fighting viciferously in Iraq. Viciously

[3:06] was probably the word that he wanted to

[3:07] make. And uh he said also that there's

[3:10] 100,000 trained troops in Iraq. But

[3:13] there's a Pentagon report out there that

[3:14] would seem to suggest that there aren't

[3:16] 100,000 fully trained troops. It's

[3:18] probably less than that. Uh the

[3:19] president uh did seem to pretty much uh

[3:22] I think comport himself the way that he

[3:23] was looking for though perhaps not as

[3:25] strongly as some people would have

[3:26] liked. It'll be interesting to see how

[3:27] he does next week. The town hall meeting

[3:30] a wide range of issues. That's a format

[3:31] that the president's very comfortable

[3:33] in. Dan

[3:33] >> Byron Pittz who covers the Kerry

[3:35] campaign. Byron.

[3:36] >> Well Dan, there's a lot of talk about

[3:38] who won. But consider this. Four years

[3:40] ago, the perception was that Al Gore won

[3:43] that debate that night. Two days later,

[3:45] that perception changed because of the

[3:46] spin. The spin is going on right now in

[3:48] this building and across the country.

[3:50] We've kept up now what's been happening

[3:52] on the web. Consider this. The

[3:54] Republicans responded to began spinning

[3:57] uh what John Kerry was saying 30 seconds

[4:00] into the debate. They updated their

[4:02] website 44 times. It took the Democrats

[4:04] about 20 minutes to respond and they

[4:07] updated their website only once. I think

[4:09] that's something we should look to in

[4:10] the coming days. As for John K's

[4:13] performance tonight, believing again he

[4:15] had to make his case to independence.

[4:17] John Kerry promised to do two things.

[4:19] One, to make the case that President

[4:21] Bush has not done a a good job in Iraq.

[4:24] The argument can be made he did that.

[4:25] Secondly, he promised to paint a clear

[4:27] picture of what he would do. Now, Dan,

[4:30] at 48 minutes into the debate, he was

[4:33] asked what he would do specifically. It

[4:36] took John Kerry another 20 minutes to

[4:38] finally answer that question. His only

[4:39] specifics were he would add two

[4:42] divisions and double the size of the

[4:43] special forces. So we'll have to see in

[4:45] the coming days how well this plays out,

[4:47] how much impact the spin will have. Dan

[4:50] >> Byron Pittz, Bob Schiffer. Byron makes a

[4:52] good point that in the first 12 to 24

[4:55] hours after debate, there is frequently

[4:57] one view of who got the best of it and

[5:00] in the next 24 to 48 hours, it sometimes

[5:02] changes. Would you expect that to happen

[5:04] this time? Uh well, I think uh I think

[5:07] people do like to think about these

[5:09] things a little bit before they just off

[5:10] the top of their head uh decide which

[5:13] one they like better. What we saw

[5:14] tonight, Dan, though, we saw two men who

[5:17] have very different views of how you

[5:20] fight the war on terrorism. Now, over

[5:22] the next couple of days, people will

[5:24] talk around the water coolers. They'll

[5:26] talk over their kitchen tables about

[5:28] which point of view they agree with, and

[5:30] that will be who won this debate. People

[5:32] vote for a president because it's the

[5:35] person they feel most comfortable with

[5:37] in a time of crisis. We saw two men with

[5:40] two very different approaches to how to

[5:42] do this. We'll see what people think

[5:44] about it. Bob Chief, thanks. So,

[5:47] American voters get to see for the first

[5:49] time the two major party candidates for

[5:51] president side by side, face to face. A

[5:54] chance to take their measure. From

[5:56] President Bush tonight, a vigorous

[5:58] defense of his policy in Iraq. He

[6:00] rejected Senator K's notion uh that

[6:03] going into Iraq had cost the United

[6:05] States something in the search for Osama

[6:08] bin Laden and the worldwide effort to

[6:11] route al-Qaeda. From Senator Kerry,

[6:13] tough criticism, saying it was the wrong

[6:15] decision to go into Iraq and that if

[6:17] elected, he will do it better and win.

[6:20] So, round one of the presidential joint

[6:22] appearances is over. Two more to come.

[6:24] But next will be the one and only vice

[6:27] presidential faceoff between Vice

[6:29] President Dick Cheney and Senator John

[6:30] Edwards next Tuesday in Cleveland. Then

[6:33] three days later, Friday of next week,

[6:36] Bush Carry round two, a town meeting

[6:39] with audience questions in St. Louis.

[6:42] Finally, the last Bush Kerry meeting

[6:44] back to the original format October 13th

[6:46] in Tempe, Arizona. The focus will be

[6:48] domestic issues. Bob Schiffer will be

[6:51] moderating that. There'll be more about

[6:53] tonight's event on your local news on

[6:55] this CBS station and tomorrow morning on

[6:57] the CBS Early Show. For now, Dan Rather

[7:00] with Bob Schiffer, Anthony Mason, Byron

[7:03] Pittz, and John Roberts. Good night

[7:06] everybody.

[7:24] Catch Jag Fridays on CBS. It's all here.

[7:29] >> I saw a poll that said uh uh the right

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[7:37] >> The right track. Americans are being

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[7:41] Over a thousand American soldiers have

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[7:51] Train Iraqis to protect themselves. John

[7:54] Kerry. A new direction in Iraq. I'm John

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[8:30] >> No one can tell him he's wrong. Even

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[9:32] Now live from the University of Miami.

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[9:38] Campaign 2004, the presidential debate.

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[9:46] the presidential candidates debate

[9:48] politics, war, and the politics of war.

[9:51] >> To hope that somehow resolutions and

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[9:58] He was hoping we'd turn away.