Face the Nation (CBS) - 2008-11-30
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[0:00] Today on Face the Nation, the new
[0:02] administration and the issues it faces
[0:05] from international terrorism to the
[0:07] failing economy. Our annual books and
[0:10] authors show. He may have won a decisive
[0:13] victory, but as the news from India
[0:15] underlines, President-elect Obama faces
[0:18] a world already changed from election
[0:21] day. Today we ask the authors of four of
[0:24] the year's most important books to
[0:26] assess the problems the new
[0:28] administration will face. We'll talk
[0:30] with Bob Woodward, author of The War
[0:32] Within: A Secret White House History.
[0:35] Fared Zakaria, author of The
[0:37] PostAmerican World. Jane Mayer, author
[0:41] of The Dark Side, the inside story of
[0:44] how the war on terror turned into a war
[0:46] on American ideals. and Michael Eric
[0:49] Dyson, author of April 4th, 1968, Martin
[0:54] Luther King Jr.'s death and how it
[0:56] changed America. I'll have a final word
[0:59] on the dangerous world of bargain
[1:01] hunting. But first, the world and Barack
[1:04] Obama on Face the Nation.
[1:14] Face the nation with CBS News chief
[1:17] Washington correspondent Bob Schiffer.
[1:20] And now from CBS News in Washington, Bob
[1:23] Sheer.
[1:25] >> And joining us this morning, Bob
[1:26] Woodward, Michael Eric Dyson, Jane
[1:28] Mayer, and Fared Zakaria. Uh Fared, I
[1:31] want to start with you. Uh we've been
[1:34] spending so much time talking about the
[1:36] economy, but uh were we ever reminded uh
[1:40] this weekend uh that terrorism is still
[1:42] there and it still must be dealt with.
[1:45] Uh what is this all about? What has
[1:48] happened this weekend in India?
[1:50] >> Well, at at some level, I mean this is
[1:52] actually quite personal for me. My
[1:54] mother has an office at the Taj Hotel.
[1:56] She's the editor of the Taj magazine and
[1:59] the office is destroyed. Luckily, she
[2:01] wasn't there. Um but I think if you step
[2:04] back what's happening now is the
[2:06] problems of Pakistan, Afghanistan and
[2:08] India are bleeding into one another. So
[2:11] that what you have is a kind of South
[2:13] Asian terrorism where these groups are
[2:15] feeding off each other finding pockets
[2:18] where they can train in lawless parts of
[2:20] the of the country. And you really have
[2:22] to ask yourself if you are looking at
[2:25] this uh from Washington, what can we do
[2:28] about it? because in many cases these
[2:31] are parts of Afghanistan and Pakistan
[2:34] that those governments have not had
[2:35] control of for 200 years. But the key if
[2:39] there is a key is that the Pakistani
[2:41] military has created trained and
[2:44] sustained groups like this for three
[2:45] decades. I don't think the government is
[2:48] involved in this one the Pakistani
[2:49] government but they have to really
[2:51] reorient themselves strategically to say
[2:53] you know there are no good militants and
[2:55] bad militants. The Pakistani military
[2:57] used to feel the good militants are the
[2:59] ones that destabilize India and
[3:00] Afghanistan, which is good for Pakistan,
[3:03] and the bad ones are the ones that kill
[3:04] Pakistani citizens. The problem is
[3:06] they're all blurring into one another.
[3:08] And can we affect a strategic
[3:10] reorientation in Pakistan? There are
[3:13] some good signs. The Pakistani
[3:14] government seems more understanding of
[3:17] this reality than than in a long time.
[3:19] But that's the real challenge.
[3:21] >> What can we do or should we do? Well,
[3:23] we've given Pakistan 10 billion dollars
[3:25] of aid in the last over the last five or
[3:27] six years. We have close relations with
[3:29] the military. If any outside player can
[3:32] play a role here, uh it's us. And I
[3:34] think it would be to try to make the
[3:36] Pakistanis understand that you know it
[3:38] is not in their interest that
[3:39] Afghanistan be unstable, that India be
[3:42] on edge, that they will prosper as a
[3:45] nation. It's a sort of broader,
[3:48] you know, um, economic understanding of
[3:50] national security than a narrow
[3:52] competitive political military one. Uh,
[3:55] and it's a there's a really interesting
[3:57] question of can you get the Pakistani
[3:58] military to see their national security
[4:01] in this broader way. Bob Woodward. Uh
[4:04] the president, if all goes as expected,
[4:06] at 10:50 Eastern time tomorrow, will
[4:09] announce his new national security team
[4:11] to be headed by Hillary Rodm Clinton as
[4:15] Secretary of State.
[4:18] >> She never goes away. She and her
[4:20] husband. Uh it's it's an amazing
[4:23] national security team that Obama
[4:26] appears to have selected. Uh it it's
[4:29] kind of like Goldilocks in the Three
[4:31] Bears. You've got too cool, which might
[4:34] be or at least appropriately cool.
[4:37] General Jones is the national security
[4:40] advisor Gates is kind of just right uh
[4:43] in the middle and Hillary Clinton hot.
[4:46] Uh this is going to be a whole new
[4:48] center of gravity for the news media,
[4:51] for the world. Uh my assessment without
[4:55] having any knowledge really is that uh
[4:58] the economists and the economic team
[5:01] around Obama convinced him that the
[5:04] economic crisis is so deep and going to
[5:07] require so much time. Go ahead and give
[5:09] Hillary and Bill the world. Well,
[5:14] we all keep hearing that he read uh Darc
[5:17] Goodwin's book about team of rivals, but
[5:21] is there a danger that this could become
[5:23] rival teams? Because we saw something
[5:25] very much like that happen during the
[5:27] Bush administration as you chronicled in
[5:29] your four books.
[5:30] >> Uh yes. Well, I mean, it's going to be
[5:32] most interesting. And uh I I think
[5:35] General Jones is the surprise here. and
[5:39] Jones who was marine commandant, NATO
[5:41] commander, somebody who served as
[5:44] military, senior military uh aid to Bill
[5:48] Cohen when he was Secretary of Defense.
[5:50] So he knows all the pieces and Jones
[5:54] comes out of the Rumsfeld Pentagon is
[5:57] one of the renegades to a certain extent
[5:59] who would say publicly that Rumsfeld had
[6:02] emasculated the joint chiefs of staff.
[6:05] So, uh, Jones is strong and he he's
[6:10] going to be a voice. Uh, he obviously
[6:13] has established a relationship with
[6:15] Obama and I think Obama's got to be a
[6:18] voice. So, you know, what's Hillary's
[6:20] role?
[6:21] >> I I think the Jones choice is
[6:23] fascinating because Jones is a highly
[6:26] respected general. He's respected not
[6:28] just here, but he was an extremely
[6:30] popular NATO commander with the
[6:31] Europeans, which is actually a rare
[6:33] feat. Uh but it also I think signals
[6:36] that Obama wants somebody at the White
[6:38] House who can run the process very well
[6:40] but who will take charge and be very
[6:42] centrally involved in the two big
[6:44] problems he has immediately which are
[6:46] Afghanistan and Iraq. I think you're
[6:48] right. Hillary may get the world and
[6:50] there may be a certain amount of
[6:51] traveling but it certainly suggests the
[6:53] Jones appointment suggests that Iraq and
[6:55] Afghanistan will be managed out of the
[6:57] White House. Well, Jane Mayor, you know,
[6:59] let me just ask you about that because
[7:01] uh your fascinating book, The Dark Side,
[7:04] tells how the current vice president,
[7:07] uh, Richard Cheney, amassed power
[7:10] unknown to any vice president in our
[7:12] history. U, I'd like to ask you first,
[7:15] uh, how did he do that? And do you see
[7:19] Joe Biden having the kind of power? I
[7:22] would say that with the naming of
[7:24] Hillary Clinton, that was the strongest
[7:26] signal yet that President elect Obama
[7:29] will not have the kind of vice president
[7:32] uh that that we saw in the in the Bush
[7:35] administration.
[7:36] >> Right? Because one of the ways that
[7:37] Cheney amassed this power was that that
[7:39] President Bush when he came in gave
[7:41] President Vice President Cheney the
[7:43] national security portfolio and that is
[7:46] not happening here. You're seeing very
[7:47] strong players divvying up this national
[7:49] security portfolio. So, uh, that that
[7:52] that won't be. It takes a president like
[7:54] Bush to have a vice president like
[7:56] Cheney. Obama so far seems to be so much
[7:59] more um involved in the details and in
[8:01] kind of wanting to command the the
[8:04] policies all the way up and down really.
[8:06] Um, so I I don't see it repeating.
[8:08] Another difference that's very important
[8:10] is that that um both the president
[8:12] coming in and the vice president are
[8:14] lawyers and and one of the things that
[8:16] happened in the last administration was
[8:17] neither of them were they were not
[8:19] constitutional scholars and they enacted
[8:21] policies that including legalizing
[8:24] torture for all purposes um that really
[8:28] were not constitutional and I don't
[8:30] think we're going to see that again.
[8:31] This is a this is a a group of people
[8:33] who um in and and the secretary of state
[8:36] is also a lawyer now. These people
[8:37] respect the law. I think
[8:40] >> Michael Dyson, you have written a
[8:42] fascinating book about Martin Luther
[8:44] King Jr. and his death and what that
[8:47] meant to the civil rights movement.
[8:49] Obviously, I think it's fair to say had
[8:51] there not been a Martin Luther King Jr.,
[8:53] there would not have been a Barack
[8:55] Obama, at least not absolutely not in
[8:58] our lifetime.
[8:59] >> What is the fact that we will have our
[9:02] first African-American president?
[9:04] Obviously, that's historic,
[9:06] >> but what what impact do you think that
[9:09] that will have?
[9:10] >> Well, obviously Martin Luther King Jr.
[9:13] laid the predicate for the rise of
[9:15] Barack Obama, as did Jesse Jackson in '
[9:17] 84 and 88. Uh Jesse Jackson had to be
[9:20] the brutal linebacker who opened up the
[9:22] space for Mr. Obama to slither through
[9:25] with grace. And I think that uh he's
[9:27] been able to rise to the stature. He's
[9:29] been able to achieve as a result of the
[9:31] brutal battles and the Indonesian
[9:33] squables that were occasioned by civil
[9:35] rights battles that Mr. Obama himself is
[9:38] not implicated in the skirmishes that
[9:40] happened along the racial front. Mr.
[9:42] Obama is not implicated in. Therefore,
[9:44] he comes with a kind of clean portfolio,
[9:46] so to speak. So that when he stands to
[9:47] talk about race, he stands as a person
[9:49] who certainly is indebted to those
[9:51] traditions but not uh if you will
[9:53] blemished by them. And I think that that
[9:56] gives him a kind of moral purchase in
[9:58] the broader world as it occasion
[10:00] skepticism among those who were worried
[10:02] about whether or not he'll continue some
[10:04] of those civil rights trajectories. And
[10:05] I think he certainly will as a lawyer,
[10:07] as a person who's conscious, who's
[10:09] taught constitutional law, who deals
[10:10] with civil rights law, civil rights
[10:12] lawyer, and a community organizer. It
[10:14] may not be his race as much as his
[10:16] community organizing background that
[10:18] will play a significant difference here
[10:20] because a person who's organized poor
[10:22] people who's attempted to get their
[10:24] interests and concerns uh as part of his
[10:26] baywick will exert a profound influence
[10:29] over those issues when it comes to the
[10:30] economy when it comes to making America
[10:32] safe when it comes to protecting borders
[10:34] and when it comes to trying to
[10:35] articulate ideas that will resonate not
[10:38] simply with African-Americans but more
[10:39] broadly. I mean, the fact that you have
[10:41] a black first family, uh, two beautiful
[10:44] children, an intelligent and brilliant
[10:46] wife, and an intelligent and brilliant,
[10:48] uh, president, uh, does an enormous good
[10:51] to people. The psychological advantage
[10:53] of waking up every morning, seeing that
[10:56] this is the most powerful man in the
[10:57] world, does an incredible amount of good
[11:00] uh, to people who look on. But what he
[11:01] proves is that look, okay, that got me
[11:03] in the door in terms of my skill and
[11:05] talent, but now I've got to really go
[11:07] forward here and govern in a way that
[11:09] respects all Americans because all of
[11:11] America uh elected him president.
[11:13] >> Do you think having an African-American
[11:15] president will have more of an impact on
[11:17] black people or white people?
[11:20] >> Well, I think uh certainly for the
[11:22] broader society, the mainstream society,
[11:23] I think white Americans certainly uh
[11:26] probably never felt they'd see this day.
[11:28] They always say black people say, "Boy,
[11:29] I never thought I'd see the day that a
[11:31] black man would be in the White House."
[11:33] But many more white Americans perhaps
[11:35] felt the same thing. Uh, in realistic
[11:37] terms, black Americans don't expect much
[11:40] from an Obama presidency that
[11:42] specifically targets them. What Mr.
[11:44] Obama has shrewdly comprehended is that
[11:46] if we're going to help everybody, we if
[11:48] we're going to help African-American
[11:49] people, we have to help everybody so
[11:51] that his policies will be geared in a
[11:52] universal way uh in terms of affirmative
[11:56] action. and certainly he continues to be
[11:57] a supporter of that, but more in terms
[11:59] of class than in race. Uh he talks about
[12:02] policies for poor people that will
[12:04] benefit the working class and the
[12:06] working poor, but also the middle class.
[12:07] So I think that for white Americans to
[12:10] see an intelligent, articulate,
[12:12] sophisticated, cool black man whose
[12:14] feathers are not easily ruffled, who is
[12:17] able to carry himself with a matter of
[12:19] self-possession and confidence without
[12:21] bleeding into the Bush swagger that
[12:24] ended up being quite reckless. I think
[12:26] is an is a is a example that black
[12:29] people can when chosen perform a job and
[12:32] that then when they perform and execute
[12:33] that job they do so with passion and
[12:35] intelligence and I think that's a
[12:37] tremendous signal to the broader world.
[12:39] >> It certainly the rest of the world it it
[12:40] it sends a tremendous signal. I I I
[12:42] agree. I mean especially at a point
[12:44] where we're being accused in this
[12:45] country of not living up to our ideals
[12:48] because of things like Guantanamo and
[12:49] and blackside prisons. And so to have an
[12:52] election where it shows that democracy
[12:54] really works and there's a meritocracy
[12:55] in the country and racism isn't going to
[12:58] stop somebody from getting to the top I
[13:00] think has been a tremendously you know
[13:02] just liberating moment for the country
[13:04] and for the rest of the world to see
[13:06] this and it's totally discomforted
[13:07] al-Qaeda among others. I mean, you've
[13:09] got these bizarre sort of statements
[13:11] from Zawahheri, the spokesman for
[13:13] al-Qaeda, trying to sort of readjust
[13:16] himself and say that, you know, there
[13:18] it's America is still, you know, a
[13:20] racist country. He's he's kind of at a
[13:22] loss for how to deal with this. So, it's
[13:24] been very
[13:25] >> and there is all of this optimism and
[13:27] hope. I mean, it's running on eight
[13:29] cylinders at full speed. And uh if you
[13:33] go back eight years when Bush was coming
[13:35] in, there was optimism then.
[13:37] Compassionate, conservative, moderate,
[13:40] crackerjack national security team, $5.4
[13:45] trillion surplus. Remember that
[13:48] everyone's going to get a tax cut. 9/11
[13:51] came along, the reality of the economy.
[13:54] uh and the cracker jack national
[13:56] security team and Bush decided the
[13:58] solution to all of the problems is to
[14:00] invade Iraq.
[14:02] >> So uh I I think the chief operator in
[14:07] bringing the world down to the real
[14:10] level is going to have to be Obama. He's
[14:13] going to have to come out and say this
[14:14] is not a 100 day administration. This is
[14:17] something we're going to have to take
[14:19] our time on. Think strategically. the
[14:21] problems on his plate are monumental.
[14:24] >> I've heard I've heard he's worried about
[14:26] the expectations, but I've also heard at
[14:27] the same time I was talking to the
[14:29] pollster Peter Hart who said that his
[14:31] polls showed that that the the country's
[14:33] seems in a patient mood. It understands
[14:36] how terrible the the problems are
[14:38] particularly the economy. So they might
[14:39] give him a little more time than you
[14:41] than the 100 days.
[14:42] >> Well, you know, the the world is not in
[14:43] a patient mood. I think he's inheriting
[14:45] a very different world than George Bush
[14:47] did. I mean, George Bush came in at
[14:49] really the peak of American unipolarity.
[14:52] The world was his oyster. America had
[14:54] these monumental surpluses. Everything
[14:56] seemed to be going its way. Now you have
[14:59] a situation where Iraq has delegitimized
[15:02] American political and military power.
[15:04] Uh the financial crisis has
[15:06] delegitimized American economic power.
[15:09] And most importantly, this broad
[15:11] phenomena that has taken place, which is
[15:13] what I describe in my book as the rise
[15:14] of the rest. the rest of the world
[15:16] really feels empowered. If you look at
[15:18] trade negotiations, if you look at I
[15:20] mean, think about just this last summer,
[15:22] you have Russia attacking Georgia. You
[15:24] have India scuttling the the global
[15:27] trade talks, the Doha round. You have
[15:28] China spending $45 billion on an
[15:31] Olympics. None of this could have
[15:33] happened 10 years ago. These countries
[15:35] are powerful. They're confident. And
[15:37] dealing operating in that world is very
[15:40] different, I think, from the world we've
[15:42] known for the last six decades. But I
[15:43] think he's the perfect president for
[15:44] that because obviously without the kind
[15:46] of empire and imperialistic bluster of a
[15:49] Bush, but a person who forges
[15:50] connections among various
[15:52] constituencies, this team of rivals is
[15:54] not simply a domestic reality. It's a
[15:56] global one.
[15:56] >> All right, let's take a break right
[15:57] here. We'll talk about all of this some
[15:59] more when we come back in one minute.
[16:11] back again with our panel of
[16:12] distinguished authors. This campaign
[16:14] started out being about Iraq, suddenly
[16:17] it wasn't about Iraq anymore. It's about
[16:20] the economy. I want to talk about Iraqi
[16:22] in a minute, but Bob, the fact that we
[16:25] face these severe financial problems
[16:27] right now and this what looks like an
[16:29] economic downturn coming. Uh is this
[16:32] going to doesn't Obama have to set some
[16:36] priorities here? There just simply going
[16:38] to be some things he's not going to be
[16:40] able to do here in the beginning and let
[16:41] yet you have these pressing.
[16:43] >> Well, I mean you you talk about an
[16:44] economic downturn. I think it's really a
[16:47] crisis and the movement was to save the
[16:50] banks and the financial system now and
[16:53] what Obama has said in the I think the
[16:55] chief challenge he's got now is to
[16:58] prevent a further decline and then to
[17:03] deliver something to the middle class he
[17:06] talks about also the people who've lost
[17:09] jobs lost their homes I mean all of this
[17:13] trillions of dollars in you know,
[17:16] bailouts and guarantees and so forth. I
[17:18] mean, here just the other day, uh,
[17:21] Cityroup got a guarantee of over $300
[17:26] billion dollar of troubled assets.
[17:29] That's half the defense budget of this
[17:32] country. Uh so now the people who are on
[17:35] the line who are feeling the pain are
[17:38] going to have to in a you know the
[17:40] coming months feel ah this
[17:43] administration is delivering some
[17:45] protections and something for them in
[17:48] terms of jobs and and keeping their
[17:50] homes
[17:51] >> and Bob I think that you're you're you
[17:54] might actually be understating the
[17:55] problem because look this is a
[17:57] monumental economic challenge because
[17:59] first of all you have simultaneously a
[18:01] cyclical recession the meltdown of the
[18:03] financial system, a drying up of credit
[18:05] happening. Nobody knows what the right
[18:07] answers are. Let's let's focus on one
[18:09] thing. The bank bailout that, you know,
[18:11] that has been passed in Congress, it
[18:13] still hasn't worked. You know, you still
[18:15] do not have credit flowing easily around
[18:17] the country. You still do not have the
[18:20] availability of capital for all the
[18:22] businesses that need it. That has to,
[18:24] you know, we've got to figure out how
[18:25] that's going to work. Then you have the
[18:27] problem which the government has made
[18:28] all these guarantees from from the city
[18:30] group one to uh deposits that you and I
[18:34] have. When do when does it stop making
[18:36] those guarantees or is the government in
[18:38] perpetuity going to guarantee every kind
[18:40] of financial instrument?
[18:41] >> It's going to draw the line with the
[18:42] media. The media will get no bailout
[18:45] bailout. But all this you know is going
[18:47] to require I just wonder Obama is going
[18:49] to have to spend a lot of time figuring
[18:51] this stuff out, working on it and trying
[18:53] different things. Let's remember, you
[18:55] know, we we thought we were so superior
[18:56] to Japan. But Japan, after a couple of
[18:59] years of denying all its problems, it
[19:01] tried all this. It injected massive
[19:03] amounts of equity into the banking
[19:04] system. It spent massively on
[19:06] infrastructure projects and it lowered
[19:08] interest rates to zero. None of it
[19:10] worked.
[19:11] >> Jane
[19:13] will uh what happens to Iraq now? I
[19:16] mean, that's the one thing we haven't
[19:18] even talked about here except just to
[19:19] mention it. Is it in fairly good shape
[19:22] now? Is it or will George Bush leave
[19:25] Iraq a better place than he found it?
[19:27] >> You know, I think one of the smart
[19:28] appointments that that Obama has made is
[19:30] to keep Gates in at the Defense
[19:32] Department. So, whatever happens in Iraq
[19:34] at least is going to be seen as some
[19:36] kind of continuity with the problems
[19:38] from before and not a radical shift that
[19:41] will be kind of blamed politically on
[19:42] Obama. But, I you know, it's it's it's
[19:45] still very shaky obviously and and and
[19:48] um so I think that there's no guarantees
[19:50] there. I think you know some of you have
[19:53] been been spent more time probably
[19:55] covering Iraq in particular than I have.
[19:57] You've written a whole wonderful book on
[19:58] on the surge.
[19:59] >> We've got 140,000 of our fellow citizens
[20:03] there and their plans and talk of small
[20:06] draw downs and a long-term plan. But
[20:09] those people are essentially acting as a
[20:11] police force in an incredibly violent
[20:15] place. And uh you you see the violence
[20:18] every day. And so when we leave, does
[20:21] the violence go up? Do all the political
[20:23] problems increase?
[20:24] >> I mean, Obama Obama's basic point about
[20:27] the surge, I mean, everybody now says he
[20:29] was wrong about the surge. Fine, at some
[20:31] level it's true. But the basic point was
[20:34] you need political deals on the ground
[20:36] that will stick to make this work
[20:38] because at some point we're going to
[20:40] leave.
[20:40] >> Meanwhile, I mean,
[20:41] >> let me just ask Michael, just as a
[20:42] closer, we have about 30 seconds left.
[20:45] What do you want to hear Barack Obama
[20:47] say on election day?
[20:49] >> Well, obviously you have to address all
[20:50] these questions. You got to deal with
[20:52] Iraq. You got to deal with Afghanistan.
[20:53] You got to deal with that region, the
[20:55] promiscuous, the promiscuous forms of
[20:57] terror, the salvation terror that Reed
[21:00] talked about has to be addressed. But
[21:01] also domestically, our hopefulness and
[21:03] our anticipation that the American
[21:05] future will be brighter. And black
[21:06] people have dealt with cash poor credit
[21:09] and debt for a long time. To have a
[21:10] brother in the White House right now is
[21:12] a tremendous advantage right now. We can
[21:13] make a dollar out of 15 cents.
[21:15] >> All right. Well, I want to thank all of
[21:17] you. Great, great discussion. Back in a
[21:19] final, well, final word.
[21:28] Finally, today, this was not the
[21:30] happiest of Thanksgivings. A nation
[21:32] which was shaken by an economic crisis
[21:34] that no one seems quite certain how to
[21:36] repair was horrified again by the awful
[21:40] tragedy that unfolded in India. No
[21:42] matter how terrible, tragedy always
[21:45] seems more cruel on a holiday. Against
[21:47] that background came news on Black
[21:50] Friday that an angry mob pushed in the
[21:52] doors at a Walmart on Long Island and
[21:55] trampled a sales clerk to death. Bargain
[21:58] hunting on Black Friday has gotten
[21:59] dangerous in recent years. Pushing,
[22:01] shoving, the occasional fist fight, and
[22:04] injuries were reported at other stores
[22:06] on Friday. But the Long Island incident
[22:09] marked the first ever Black Friday
[22:11] shopping fatality. It made me wonder,
[22:14] what were they shopping for? Christmas
[22:16] gifts. They didn't show much Christmas
[22:18] spirit. When store officials ordered the
[22:20] mob out of the store because someone had
[22:22] died, many called it unfair because they
[22:25] said they had been waiting hours to
[22:27] shop. The terrorist attack in India will
[22:30] cause us to redouble our anti-terrorist
[22:32] efforts and economic rep recovery plans
[22:35] are already in the works. But shouldn't
[22:38] the death of that poor sales clerk give
[22:40] us some pause as well? If we have become
[22:43] a people so self-centered that we are
[22:45] willing to step over a lifeless body to
[22:48] get a bargain, we have problems that go
[22:50] beyond terrorists, a credit crunch, and
[22:53] bad mortgages. Surely we can do better
[22:56] than that. Back to you in a minute.
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