Nightline (ABC) - 1999-06-07

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[0:00] Finally tonight, a graduation day with a

[0:03] decidedly different look. Students at

[0:05] the Cincinnati Zoo Academy received

[0:06] their diplomas from one of its most

[0:08] dapper residents, an elephant named Mai.

[0:11] The polished packaderm sported a custom

[0:13] top hat and cuff links to commemorate

[0:16] the occasion. Now, the students seem to

[0:17] like the special guest. Their reactions

[0:19] range from a kiss on my Tai's trunk to a

[0:22] high five. The academy is a vocational

[0:25] school for young people interested in

[0:27] careers as zookeepers. Of course, then

[0:30] they make peanuts. So,

[0:31] >> hey, that's a ceremony to remember. That

[0:33] was really good. By the way, that's it

[0:35] at 11. Good night.

[0:36] >> Thanks for joining us.

[0:41] >> Fisher Broadcasting,

[0:48] June 7th, 1999.

[0:52] >> Could you trust Mallosvich's word? The

[0:55] administration hopes up. and we're

[0:57] hopeful, but we need to see real action

[0:59] here.

[1:00] >> But ask Americans if Meloich would

[1:02] comply. 19% say yes. 73% say no. It

[1:08] seems the American people were right.

[1:11] >> We have been down the road uh with

[1:12] Malloich before. We understand uh some

[1:16] of the tactics that he employs from time

[1:18] to time.

[1:19] >> Now NATO intends to send him a message.

[1:22] the uh air campaign will intensify and I

[1:25] anticipate that you'll see an

[1:27] intensification over the next few days.

[1:29] >> Tonight, is Mallich stalling for time or

[1:32] will he make good on his work?

[1:38] From ABC News,

[1:43] this is Night Line. Substituting for Ted

[1:46] Cppel and reporting from Washington,

[1:49] Chris Wallace.

[1:51] >> A NATO spokesman put it simply today. An

[1:54] agreement without implementation is not

[1:56] an agreement. 4 days after Yugoslav

[1:59] President Malloich agreed to a peace

[2:01] plan, he still has made no move to pull

[2:03] his troops out of Kosovo. And so, 4 days

[2:06] after there seemed to be a settlement,

[2:08] NATO jets are still bombing. The central

[2:12] question tonight is where does the peace

[2:14] process stand? Is Mallosvich maneuvering

[2:17] to try to get a slightly better deal or

[2:19] is there a bigger breakdown over major

[2:22] issues? In Germany today, there was a

[2:24] meeting of the foreign ministers of the

[2:26] seven leading industrial nations and

[2:28] Russia to try to work things out.

[2:31] Western officials said that Russia

[2:32] supporting Melvich wants an early end to

[2:35] the bombing and wants any peacekeeping

[2:37] force to be under UN control, not NATO.

[2:41] In other words, there seem to be some

[2:42] key questions that must still be

[2:44] resolved. Where does the peace process

[2:47] go from here? ABC's Sheila McVicker

[2:49] begins our coverage tonight, reporting

[2:52] from Macedonia.

[3:01] The British were ready.

[3:06] >> The Germans were checking their

[3:07] equipment one more time.

[3:12] >> The US Marines floating off the coast of

[3:14] Greece were all packed.

[3:16] >> Where is airborne?

[3:19] >> After 2 and 1/2 months of NATO bombing,

[3:22] peace and the deployment of these

[3:24] peacekeepers seem so close. It's a very,

[3:26] very dynamic situation

[3:28] >> for the Marines. The amphibious landing

[3:30] that would launch them was just hours

[3:32] away.

[3:34] >> It's kind of hard. You get everything

[3:35] packed and you're ready to go and then

[3:36] they say, "Well, you're not going right

[3:37] now."

[3:38] >> I was I was ready to go. I mean, being

[3:39] on ship for about 2 months now, it it

[3:43] kind of gets a little confining.

[3:44] >> They will be confined longer until there

[3:47] is a peace agreement. The Greek

[3:49] government, the shakiest of the NATO

[3:50] allies, said these Marines weren't going

[3:53] anywhere through its territory.

[3:56] And all that military hardware and the

[3:59] thousands of troops planned for Kosovo

[4:02] were left waiting as once again

[4:04] President Mallosvich played for time.

[4:07] >> If there was uh yesterday a breakdown of

[4:10] the talks, it was because of

[4:12] Mallosovich.

[4:13] It's clear that's where the

[4:14] responsibility lies.

[4:16] >> It was just last Thursday when Mr.

[4:18] Mallosovich seemed to finally feel the

[4:21] effect of thousands of NATO bombing runs

[4:23] and agreed to the alliance's conditions.

[4:28] Despite the relief, NATO leaders sensed

[4:30] the need for caution.

[4:32] >> It took a long time for him to get the

[4:34] message that NATO was not going away.

[4:38] And I say this to him today, NATO will

[4:40] not go away until those words are

[4:43] translated into actions. It seemed that

[4:47] NATO had proven that air power alone

[4:49] could achieve victory

[4:53] without a single NATO battle casualty.

[4:56] All that was left was the fine print.

[4:59] That was to be resolved here on Saturday

[5:02] morning. For their first meeting with

[5:04] Serb generals since the war began, NATO

[5:07] pointedly picked an ethnic Albanian

[5:09] restaurant close to the Macedonian

[5:12] border. It started badly. The Serbs were

[5:15] late. They didn't like the location.

[5:18] There were frantic phone calls.

[5:20] >> As we all know, it didn't happen at 9:00

[5:23] and it has still not happened.

[5:25] >> When the Serbs did arrive 3 hours after

[5:27] they had been expected, there were

[5:28] clearly problems. The American general

[5:31] monitoring the talks was on the phone.

[5:33] The Serbs caucused in back of the

[5:35] restaurant. The meeting dragged on. The

[5:38] discussions described as serious until

[5:40] the Serb general said they could go no

[5:42] farther without consulting Belgrade.

[5:45] Saying they would be back in an hour,

[5:47] they climbed into their cars and headed

[5:49] across the border to make a phone call.

[5:51] On Saturday night, NATO officers were

[5:53] very confident that when the Serbs came

[5:55] back, they'd be ready to sign the deal.

[5:58] But the Serbs didn't come back. And when

[6:00] they finally did show up on Sunday

[6:02] morning, the mood was very different.

[6:07] So was the location. This time a French

[6:10] air base.

[6:11] >> Mr. Jackson, are you hopeful?

[6:13] >> The NATO commander already knew the

[6:15] Serbs had problems with the timetable,

[6:18] but no one expected them to bulk. NATO

[6:21] logistics experts were brought in. The

[6:23] Serbs were saying they couldn't withdraw

[6:25] on the seven days suggested by NATO.

[6:27] They had no gas. Vehicles have broken

[6:30] down and some of the roads have been

[6:32] made impassible by NATO bombing. Each

[6:34] time progress was made, there was a new

[6:37] issue until finally the Serbs seemed to

[6:40] be challenging the whole basis of the

[6:42] peace plan.

[6:43] >> Well, you'll have to speak to the

[6:44] Yuguslavs about the problems. They have

[6:46] not signed the document.

[6:47] >> The talks were suspended and late last

[6:49] night, the Serbs finally left. NATO

[6:52] confirmed the Serbs had not signed what

[6:54] was supposed to be a straightforward

[6:56] document. NATO deployment could not

[6:59] begin. The Yuguslav

[7:02] delegation

[7:04] presented a proposal that would not

[7:08] guarantee the safe return of all the

[7:11] refugees

[7:14] or the full withdrawal of Yuguslav

[7:18] forces.

[7:20] NATO therefore has no alternative

[7:22] but to continue and indeed intensify the

[7:25] air campaign.

[7:28] Today NATO left no doubt about its

[7:31] intentions.

[7:33] But on the ground, it was not the only

[7:35] organization brought to a halt by the

[7:37] Serb about face. 36 hours ago, the UN

[7:40] World Food Program responsible for

[7:43] delivering tons of humanitarian aid for

[7:45] the hundreds of thousands of

[7:46] homewardbound Kosvars was frantically

[7:49] calling up truck drivers willing to make

[7:51] the journey into Kosovo. the food in the

[7:53] warehouses like the refugees now

[7:55] stranded by the latest twist in the

[7:58] conflict.

[7:59] >> We right now have enough food to feed

[8:00] 800,000 people um for the next 2 months.

[8:03] The question is how long we're going to

[8:05] be outside Kosovo when we're moving in.

[8:07] >> We're in a stage of sort of motion

[8:09] sickness. One minute you're ready to go

[8:12] in, the next minute you're preparing for

[8:13] more people to come out.

[8:16] Even in the growing heat of summer, what

[8:18] is on everyone's mind here is the coming

[8:20] cold of the Balkan winter. And so there

[8:23] is pressure, military and humanitarian,

[8:26] to get the agreement with Mr. Mallosvich

[8:28] back on track. At the press room of

[8:30] Kohi, the Kosvar Albanian newspaper now

[8:34] published in exile in Macedonia.

[8:36] Tomorrow's headline about Mr. Mallosvich

[8:39] reflects the mistrust rife within the

[8:41] refugee community. At the Macedonian

[8:43] border today, a few more exhausted

[8:45] ethnic Albanians struggled out of

[8:47] Kosova. They said they did not believe

[8:50] there would be peace soon.

[8:53] >> Mallovich has broken many agreements in

[8:55] the past, said Miffar Raki. It will

[8:58] probably take a lot longer, but who

[9:00] knows?

[9:02] And of course, for the 500,000 ethnic

[9:04] Albanians who remain inside Kosovo whom

[9:06] we cannot see. And now for the Serb

[9:09] civilians who are also reported to be

[9:11] going hungry. There will be no

[9:13] improvement in conditions until NATO can

[9:15] deploy and the humanitarian agencies go

[9:18] in. Chris

[9:20] >> Sheila, if they can make a deal, how

[9:22] quickly are NATO forces prepared to move

[9:24] in.

[9:25] >> NATO wants to move in as quickly as it

[9:28] possibly can. They were talking about

[9:29] even 24 hours after the first Serb

[9:32] withdrawal began. that could have meant

[9:34] if they had signed on Sunday night as

[9:36] early perhaps as tomorrow morning. Now,

[9:39] that of course is not going to happen

[9:40] now and we'll just have to wait and see

[9:43] when that can take place.

[9:44] >> Let me ask you about one of the other

[9:45] issues, Sheila, that came up this

[9:47] weekend. How concerned is NATO about

[9:49] landmines and that moving into Kosovo

[9:52] will be a very dangerous business?

[9:54] >> You're right. They are very concerned.

[9:55] They do think it will be a very

[9:57] dangerous business. They know that there

[9:58] have been literally thousands of mines

[10:00] sewn throughout the province by Serb

[10:02] forces, both the regular army and

[10:04] paramilitaries and also by the Kosovo

[10:06] Liberation Army. Now, under the terms of

[10:09] the peace agreement, the Yugoslavs were

[10:11] to tell NATO where they had put their

[10:13] minds and in fact give them maps such as

[10:15] they exist. Yesterday, the Serbs were

[10:18] saying that not until the agreement was

[10:20] signed were they prepared to tell NATO

[10:22] where those mines were.

[10:23] >> So, they are going to make the landmines

[10:25] one more bargaining chip in all of this.

[10:27] Sheila,

[10:28] >> they were trying to do that. NATO, of

[10:30] course, says that that's not what you

[10:32] signed on to in Belgrade in the 12-point

[10:34] plan. You agreed to tell us where they

[10:36] are, and you must tell us where they are

[10:38] before this agreement is signed.

[10:40] >> Sheila McVicker reporting from

[10:41] Macedonia. Sheila, thanks. When we

[10:44] return, two former Clinton

[10:45] administration officials experienced in

[10:48] the frustrations of the Balkans.

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[13:17] >> Joining us in our Washington bureau,

[13:19] Robert Hunter, US ambassador to NATO

[13:21] from 1993 to 1998. Now a senior adviser

[13:25] at the Rand Corporation, and Evo Dalder,

[13:28] who coordinated Bosnia policy for the

[13:30] National Security Council in the Clinton

[13:32] White House. He's now a visiting fellow

[13:35] at the Brookings Institution. Mr.

[13:37] Douler, let's start with a question a

[13:39] lot of people are asking tonight. What

[13:41] is Lobodon Mallosvich up to?

[13:43] >> Well, uh, of course, nobody really

[13:45] knows. We'll have to wait and see, but

[13:48] it's clearly he's trying at the very

[13:50] least to get a better deal than the one

[13:52] he signed last Thursday. uh he's trying

[13:55] to nibble at the edges in order to uh

[13:58] weaken the NATO presence there and

[14:00] weaken the NATO command and control to

[14:02] increase the amount and and and time

[14:04] that the Serbs can be there to reduce

[14:06] the likelihood of refugees to return so

[14:09] that he can claim victory or worse he is

[14:12] what he's really trying to do is try is

[14:14] is using the the acceptance of the peace

[14:18] deal as a way to separate the West from

[14:20] each other to separate the West and the

[14:22] Russians to split again that

[14:24] international uh uh coalition that had

[14:27] isolated him or seemingly isolated him

[14:31] uh last Thursday in the hope that he can

[14:33] actually outlive not only a further

[14:35] bombing campaign but perhaps even this

[14:37] war.

[14:37] >> But 10 weeks of NATO bombardment brought

[14:40] Mallowvich to the bargaining table and

[14:42] to the acceptance of this peace deal,

[14:44] however sincerely he meant it. Aren't

[14:46] there internal political dangers to

[14:48] prolonging the suffering of his people?

[14:50] >> Oh, absolutely. And one of the pressures

[14:52] that probably led him to the table and

[14:54] to the acceptance was the belief that if

[14:57] he continued a war uh even possibly with

[15:00] ground troops uh on the horizon uh that

[15:03] he may well uh look at his own people

[15:05] who would turn against him and that he

[15:06] would lose power. But make this guy tick

[15:09] is power and nothing less. He wants to

[15:11] maintain power and at the moment he

[15:13] believes that peace is the better way to

[15:15] maintain power, he'll sign on. If he

[15:17] believes that a continuation of the war

[15:19] is a better way to maintain power as

[15:21] perhaps the Yugoslav military is telling

[15:23] him, uh then he'll continue the war.

[15:26] That's uh that's the one ingredient that

[15:28] will tell us else where he's going to

[15:29] go.

[15:30] >> Ambassador Hunter, are you surprised by

[15:32] what Mr. Mallosvich is doing?

[15:34] >> I think the big surprise was last Friday

[15:37] when he accepted the deal or seemed to

[15:40] uh without making changes. Uh that

[15:42] wasn't classic Mallosich. what is

[15:44] classic Melovich is now trying to pull

[15:46] apart what was put down on the piece of

[15:49] paper. Uh in the midst the kind of

[15:52] euphoria that we're finding all over

[15:54] NATO that it looks like the air campaign

[15:56] has succeeded. He will now uh step by

[15:59] step along with his Russian friends try

[16:02] to pull apart what NATO has done and and

[16:05] get people to say, well, you know, I

[16:06] guess it isn't so bad. Maybe we can give

[16:08] a little here and give a little there.

[16:09] But we got to wind this thing up. The

[16:11] problem is that NATO has to be firm, has

[16:14] to realize that time is on NATO's side

[16:16] and not to be in such a hurry. Uh

[16:19] otherwise, Malloich will gain some

[16:21] things that that might actually turn out

[16:22] to be critical.

[16:23] >> What you seem to be suggesting, Mr.

[16:25] Ambassador, is that he very consciously

[16:27] accepted, made the deal, and then

[16:29] started negotiating afterwards.

[16:31] >> Well, I think that's what he did. He

[16:32] said, "Let let's have a little added

[16:34] drama. Let's try to get control of the

[16:36] psychology." Uh now of course he's going

[16:38] to try to have a few more of his people

[16:40] get to stay. He he wants to move as much

[16:42] of of as possible of this to the United

[16:44] Nations where he has two votes to start

[16:47] with the Russians and the Chinese. He'd

[16:50] like to weaken the control of NATO in

[16:52] the country and very important to him to

[16:55] pin down the sovereignty of Serbia over

[16:58] Kosovo. He wants to be able to show his

[17:00] people who care very deeply about

[17:02] retaining this province uh no I haven't

[17:05] haven't lost it. And if he does that,

[17:07] well, maybe not so many of those

[17:08] refugees will come home. Uh, and that's

[17:10] what he was trying to achieve in the

[17:11] first place, to to reduce the number of

[17:14] Albanians that live in that place.

[17:15] >> Uh, clearly what Melvich wants is to

[17:18] have the current status quo, which is

[17:21] many many Albanians out of the country

[17:23] remain. and in fact to have the

[17:25] international community recognize that

[17:28] Kosovo is a part of Serbia, will always

[17:30] be a part of Serbia, won't won't leave

[17:33] Serbia, and that the Albanians in fact

[17:35] uh are in the country that that the

[17:37] Serbs told them to be in their own

[17:39] Albania, not in Kosovo.

[17:40] >> All right, we have to break in here, but

[17:42] when we return, I want to ask both of

[17:44] you about some other reasons why the

[17:45] peace plan may have been delayed,

[17:47] including to hide evidence of war

[17:49] crimes. And we'll continue our

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[20:41] And we're back now with Robert Hunter,

[20:43] the former ambassador to NATO, and Evo

[20:45] Dalder, a former National Security

[20:47] Council official in the Clinton

[20:49] administration. Ambassador Hunter, there

[20:51] has been a lot of speculation today

[20:53] about why Mallosovich is stalling. And

[20:55] one suggestion has been that the longer

[20:57] he delays, the harder it will be for

[21:00] NATO to maintain the option of deploying

[21:03] ground forces. Do you buy that? Uh, no,

[21:05] I don't because NATO is at the moment

[21:08] building up to the 50,000 troops that uh

[21:11] are going to be necessary to go in with

[21:13] the uh the peacekeeping force, the

[21:15] so-called K4. If if we come to that, I

[21:18] think Malloich is really trying just to

[21:20] get a better deal to water down the NATO

[21:22] role, to pin down his sovereignty, and

[21:24] to get the UN to uh to be the place

[21:27] where the Russians help him out. But

[21:29] NATO really has to stand very firm on

[21:32] the idea of this being NATO command and

[21:34] control because there's one test of

[21:38] success here and that's whether these

[21:40] refugees are willing to go home and

[21:42] unless that happens uh nobody is going

[21:45] to be willing to go back to the tender

[21:47] mercies of the Serbs or or of the United

[21:50] Nations. But

[21:50] >> but one of the issues NATO has to face

[21:52] now while we're in this kind of limbo

[21:54] period is the idea of reigniting the the

[21:57] air war. for instance, do they go back

[21:59] and start hitting quote civilian targets

[22:02] like power stations, things that have a

[22:04] general effect on the public? What what

[22:06] should NATO do there? I think NATO

[22:08] should hit the Serbs very heavy and very

[22:11] hard to bring home to Malloich and to

[22:14] his people uh that there is no respit

[22:16] and that if they don't follow through on

[22:18] signing on the dotted line, this is what

[22:20] they have uh in for them. If Mallosvich

[22:22] has been trying to hold out to his

[22:24] people that he'll be able to negotiate a

[22:26] better deal, they need to be disabused

[22:28] immediately.

[22:29] >> Mr. Dalder, the British defense

[22:31] secretary today raised an intriguing

[22:33] idea for why there may be a delay and

[22:35] that it allows the Serbs to destroy

[22:38] evidence of war crimes. Do you think

[22:40] that's a possibility?

[22:42] >> Uh they they'll need more than a couple

[22:44] of days to do that. uh any look even

[22:46] from the air that we have had from

[22:48] satellite pictures of Kosovo and what we

[22:51] see from reports reporters who have been

[22:53] there uh is that the entire province of

[22:56] Kosovo is one big piece of evidence

[22:58] about war crimes villages raised people

[23:01] murdered large amounts of of mass graves

[23:04] uh they'll need more than a couple of

[23:05] days in order to solve that problem let

[23:08] me help us if you will Mr. dollar on the

[23:10] issue of the Russians who seem to be

[23:11] playing a very confusing role in all of

[23:13] this. We're told that at the foreign

[23:15] minister's meeting in Germany today,

[23:17] they raised some key objections to the

[23:19] NATO plan. But when the president talked

[23:21] on the phone, President Clinton to

[23:23] President Yelen, Yeltson indicated to

[23:25] him he's going to move the process

[23:27] along. What's the Russian game here, do

[23:28] you think?

[23:30] >> Well, it's twofold. One, and the most

[23:32] important game the Russians are playing

[23:33] has nothing to do with Kosovo. It has

[23:35] nothing to do with us or NATO. that has

[23:37] everything to do with domestic politics.

[23:39] Uh that is the arena in which all these

[23:41] people are playing. Uh Yeltson may well

[23:44] tell Bill Clinton that he wants this uh

[23:46] this deal settled and and he may in fact

[23:48] instruct his foreign minister to do so.

[23:50] Uh but in the end the Russians want to

[23:53] be seen as as supportive of the of the

[23:56] Slavic brothers uh who are under attack

[23:58] here of NATO by NATO and more

[24:00] importantly to oppose NATO. That is

[24:02] where the domestic political uh value

[24:05] lies in for for for the Russians and

[24:07] they will be a thorn in our uh in our

[24:10] eye for uh for a very long time.

[24:12] >> I think the Russians are actually

[24:13] looking at it slightly differently. On

[24:15] the one hand, they want to be

[24:17] sufficiently cooperative so they're not

[24:19] isolated and also so they will be

[24:20] eligible for a lot of that financial aid

[24:23] that they're going to need. Uh right now

[24:26] they are servicing debt uh with the

[24:28] total amount of revenue that the

[24:29] government takes in the in in a year.

[24:31] The other thing is a long-term game. Uh

[24:34] the Russians want to reduce the role of

[24:36] NATO in European security. Uh they want

[24:39] to uh block further expansion. They they

[24:41] want to show that NATO can't run Kosovo

[24:44] all by itself. This is something that

[24:46] means an awful lot to the Russians and

[24:48] the very fact that we wouldn't risk

[24:49] casualties, we wouldn't put in ground

[24:51] forces, meant that we had to turn to the

[24:53] Russians to help us out, maybe even to

[24:55] rescue us on diplomacy. And they're

[24:57] playing it for all it's worth.

[24:58] Ambassador Hunter, uh there seems to be

[25:01] a lot of discussion today on the issue

[25:03] of the bombing pause, whether it comes

[25:05] simultaneous with the withdrawal of

[25:07] forces, whether it can come a little bit

[25:09] later, and there was some indication out

[25:11] of the the foreign minister's meeting

[25:12] that there might be some leeway that we

[25:14] might move up the bombing bombing pause

[25:15] to make it in effect almost coincidental

[25:18] with the first troops leaving. Does that

[25:20] concern you at all? I think that after

[25:22] what Mallosvich has done, uh, we need to

[25:25] be extremely careful before we give any

[25:27] bombing pause or or halt anything like

[25:29] that, until we have incontrovertible

[25:32] evidence that his people are moving out

[25:34] in mass. Uh, otherwise, he is just going

[25:36] to diddle NATO once again. Uh, I know

[25:38] it's more risk for the troops that are

[25:40] leaving, but unless they do the right

[25:42] thing, unless they're moving, the

[25:43] bombing must continue.

[25:44] >> All right, we have a little bit over a

[25:46] minute left. I'm going to ask you both

[25:47] to kind of sum up here, if you will. Let

[25:49] me start with you, Mr. Dollar. What's

[25:50] your gut tell you? Is this just a

[25:52] temporary setback? Are we looking at a

[25:54] major breakdown in the peace process?

[25:56] No, my gut is that it's a temporary

[25:58] setback that if NATO stays firm on the

[26:01] fundamental goals that it has had, which

[26:03] is NATO in, Serbs out, and to do so by

[26:07] by continuing the pressure through an

[26:09] intensification of the bombing campaign,

[26:11] and I would add to continue the

[26:13] preparations on the ground in order to

[26:15] at at some point give us the option to

[26:17] go in on the ground, uh, Malloich will

[26:20] will cave. It will take a couple more

[26:21] days, but in the end, we will get what

[26:23] we want if we stay firm. But days, not

[26:25] weeks. You're saying

[26:26] >> days but not weeks.

[26:27] >> And Ambassador Hunter, same set of

[26:29] questions to you.

[26:30] >> I think if NATO holds firm, we will

[26:33] prevail. And that's the real test. And

[26:35] so far, the alliance is passing that

[26:37] test more than a lot of allies thought

[26:40] and certainly more than Mr. Mallovich

[26:42] thought. So, let's roll the the scenario

[26:45] back to last Thursday, pick up right

[26:47] where we were, and persevere until we

[26:49] get it done and get it done right.

[26:51] >> Gentlemen, we're going to have to leave

[26:52] it there. Ambassador Hunter, Mr. Dalder,

[26:54] thank you both very much for joining us

[26:55] this evening and I'll be back in a

[26:57] moment.

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