ABC News Special Report - 2006-11-30 - 3 a.m. (E) (partial)

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[0:00] host and a good neighbor

[0:03] and there was not part of our agenda a

[0:06] trilateral meeting. So there is no

[0:08] problem.

[0:13] >> Please

[0:17] network. Did you discuss with the

[0:19] president the Iranian influence that is

[0:22] expanding in Iraq

[0:24] [snorts] and how and the almost complete

[0:27] Iranian control over Baghdad as the uh

[0:31] press sources seems to indicate

[0:33] >> to ask you a question

[0:35] >> in Iraq did you broke this big wall

[0:38] between Iraq and Iranian so and are you

[0:43] going to to deal with I don't understand

[0:45] your first to deal with the Iranian

[0:47] directly Am

[0:49] I going to meet with the Iranians

[0:50] directly? Is that the question?

[0:51] >> And the question of Iraq? Yes.

[0:58] As far as the first question

[1:02] that was mentioned by the first question

[1:03] that was mentioned by the report, I

[1:05] think these are wrong and exaggerated

[1:07] information and are being used as one of

[1:10] the propaganda mechanisms to give the

[1:14] impression of sectarian strife so that

[1:18] we reach a point of a bad point of no

[1:21] return because we want to emphasize that

[1:23] we will not to allow anybody to exert

[1:26] their control over any part of Iraq. If

[1:29] there's any talk about intervention in

[1:30] Iraq

[1:33] and all the discussion, all the talks

[1:35] about people or other nations exerting

[1:37] control over Iraq, this is not true.

[1:40] This is a political process in Iraq. We

[1:43] want good relationships with our

[1:44] neighbors. We want complimentary

[1:47] relationships with our neighbors to pro

[1:49] to protect the region from tensions. But

[1:52] the main principle underlying all these

[1:55] is the respect of the Iraqi borders and

[2:00] the internal affairs of Iraq.

[2:07] >> Fear democracy democracy

[2:10] >> and that's why they destabilize

[2:11] >> and that's why they destabilize Lebanon

[2:14] >> uh Lebanon.

[2:17] Uh that's why they

[2:19] are worried about the establishment of a

[2:21] Palestinian state.

[2:25] Uh I

[2:27] appreciate the prime minister's views

[2:30] that the Iraqis are plenty capable of

[2:32] running their own business and they

[2:33] don't need foreign interference from

[2:34] neighbors that will be destabilizing the

[2:37] country.

[2:39] I am very worried as should the world

[2:42] about Iran's desires to have a nuclear

[2:44] weapon.

[2:47] and therefore will continue to work

[2:50] with the world to send a clear message

[2:53] to the Iranians, the Iranian government

[2:56] that uh that we will um you know they'll

[3:01] become more isolated. And my message to

[3:03] the Iranian people is we have

[3:06] no beef with the Iranian people. We

[3:08] respect their heritage. We respect their

[3:10] history. We respect their traditions. I

[3:13] just have a problem with a government

[3:16] that is isolating its people, denying

[3:18] its people benefits that could be had

[3:21] from engagement with the world.

[3:23] It's uh and I told the prime minister

[3:26] we'll continue to work to with the world

[3:29] community to to insist that Iran abandon

[3:32] its nuclear weapons programs and I have

[3:35] said that if they were to verifiably

[3:38] suspend their enrichment program, we

[3:40] would be a part of the EU3 plus Russia

[3:42] plus China discussions. They know how to

[3:44] get us to the table. The choice is

[3:46] theirs to make. It's the choice of the

[3:48] Iranian government as to whether or not

[3:52] they make uh make the right decisions

[3:55] for not only uh the sake of diplomacy,

[3:58] but for the sake more importantly for

[3:59] the sake of their people. Uh we might as

[4:02] well keep going. Prime Minister Richard,

[4:06] >> thank you.

[4:07] >> Please, sir. Please.

[4:09] >> Thank you.

[4:10] uh when we were in Baghdad 6 months ago,

[4:13] you expressed the same kind of

[4:14] confidence in the prime minister and his

[4:16] government that you've expressed today.

[4:17] Yet there have been repeated rounds of

[4:19] disappointments when it comes to the

[4:21] prime minister's Baghdad security plan

[4:24] uh with his plans for reconciliation.

[4:26] I'm wondering if anything I if you've

[4:29] had any doubts over the last six months

[4:31] about the strength of his government,

[4:33] about the prime minister's own abilities

[4:35] and and what gives you such confidence

[4:37] today to think that he can achieve what

[4:38] he hasn't done over the last 6 months.

[4:40] >> Yeah. Well, as you mentioned, he's been

[4:42] in he's been in power for 6 months

[4:45] and uh I've been able to watch a uh a

[4:48] leader emerge.

[4:51] The first thing that gives me confidence

[4:52] is that he wants responsibility.

[4:55] The sign of leadership is for somebody

[4:57] to say, "I want to be able to have the

[4:59] tools necessary to protect my people."

[5:01] One of his frustrations with me is that

[5:05] he believes we've been slow about giving

[5:07] him the tools necessary to protect the

[5:08] Iraqi people.

[5:11] And uh uh today we had a meeting that

[5:15] will accelerate the capacity for the uh

[5:18] prime minister to do the hard work

[5:20] necessary to to help stop this violence.

[5:23] No question. and it's it's it's a

[5:25] violent society right now. He knows that

[5:28] better than anybody.

[5:31] He was explaining to me that

[5:32] occasionally the house in which he lives

[5:34] gets shelled

[5:36] by terrorists who are trying to frighten

[5:38] him. And so the second point I make to

[5:40] you is that I I I appreciate his

[5:42] courage. You can't lead unless you have

[5:44] courage.

[5:45] And he's got courage and he's shown

[5:47] courage over the last six months.

[5:50] Thirdly, he has expressed a deep desire

[5:52] to unify his country. [clears throat]

[5:55] You hear all kinds of rumors about the

[5:58] politics inside of Iraq. I'm talking to

[6:00] the man face to face and he says that he

[6:04] understands that a unified government, a

[6:06] pluralistic society is important for

[6:08] success

[6:10] and he's making hard decisions to

[6:12] achieve that. No question has been

[6:14] tough. It would have been a lot easier

[6:17] had people uh not tried to destabilize

[6:19] the young democracy.

[6:21] His job would have been more simple had

[6:24] there not been terrorists

[6:27] trying to create sectarian violence. Now

[6:31] I want everybody to remember that it was

[6:34] Mr. Zarqawi of al-Qaeda who said let us

[6:37] bomb

[6:39] Shia in order to create the conditions

[6:42] necessary for sectarian violence.

[6:45] The Samar bombing started off this new

[6:47] phase of violence.

[6:50] The prime minister comes in about

[6:51] halfway through that phase in order to,

[6:54] you know, he he'd been selected and now

[6:57] he's dealing with, you know, a serious

[7:00] situation on the ground.

[7:02] And what I appreciate is his uh his

[7:06] attitude

[7:08] as opposed to saying, "America, you go

[7:10] solve the problem." We have a prime

[7:13] minister who's saying stop holding me

[7:15] back. I want to solve the problem.

[7:19] And the meeting today was to accelerate

[7:22] his capacity to do so.

[7:25] It's not easy for a military to evolve

[7:28] from ground zero.

[7:30] And I appreciate our forces and I

[7:33] appreciate General Casey who've worked

[7:35] very hard to train the Iraqis so that

[7:38] they become a capable fighting force as

[7:41] well as a unifying element for Iraq.

[7:44] But it's one thing to put people in

[7:45] uniform and another thing to have clear

[7:48] command structure or the capacity to

[7:50] move troops from point A to point B or

[7:53] the capacity to make sure that the troop

[7:55] carrier from point A to point B has got

[7:58] the necessary air in its tires or oil in

[8:00] its engine. In other words, this is a

[8:02] sophisticated operation to get a

[8:05] unifying army stood up.

[8:07] And one of the reasons I appreciate the

[8:09] prime minister is that he on the one

[8:12] hand sees that it's a sophisticated

[8:14] operation to get a military up from

[8:16] zero. But on the other hand is

[8:17] frustrated by the pace.

[8:20] And the reason why he's frustrated is

[8:22] because he wants to show the people who

[8:24] elected him that he is willing to take

[8:27] the hard tasks on necessary to provide

[8:29] security for the Iraqi people,

[8:32] such as hunting down those who are

[8:34] killing the innocent.

[8:36] And the reason I came today to be able

[8:38] to sit down with him is to hear the

[8:41] joint plans developed between the Iraqi

[8:44] government, the sovereign government of

[8:46] Iraq and our government to make sure

[8:49] that we accelerate the transfer of

[8:52] capacity to the prime minister.

[8:55] And uh I know he's looking forward to

[8:58] more capacity being transferred so he

[9:00] can do his job. Anyway, I he's the right

[9:02] guy for Iraq

[9:05] and we're going to help him and it's in

[9:07] our interest to help him for the sake of

[9:10] peace.

[9:19] You're

[9:19] >> a

[9:21] Uhhuh.

[9:23] What you advise

[9:28] Abu Maz

[9:30] to keep this new ceasefire agreement and

[9:35] what should be done within

[9:38] disagree with

[9:39] >> well first of all

[9:40] >> well first of all there's no question

[9:42] that um

[9:45] if we were able to settle the

[9:46] Palestinian Israeli issue it would help

[9:50] bring more peace to the Middle East

[9:53] and therefore our government is focused

[9:55] on helping to develop the two-state

[9:58] solution.

[10:00] Matter of fact, I was the our government

[10:03] strongly believes in the two-state

[10:05] solution and I believe it's in the

[10:06] Palestinian people's interest that they

[10:08] have their own state and I believe it's

[10:10] in Israel's interest that there be a

[10:13] democracy on our border and therefore

[10:16] we're working to that end. the um look,

[10:20] there are extremists who want to stop

[10:22] the development of a Palestinian state,

[10:25] just like there are extremists who want

[10:27] to destabilize Lebanon. And we're

[10:29] strongly in support of the Sonora

[10:31] government, just like there are

[10:32] extremists who want to destabilize this

[10:34] young democracy. Isn't it interesting

[10:36] that the radicals and extremists fear

[10:39] democracy so much that they're willing

[10:40] to kill innocent people? And the task at

[10:43] hand is to support moderate, reasonable

[10:47] people in their quest for free

[10:49] societies. And that means that Abu

[10:51] Mazin, who I believe wants there to be a

[10:54] Palestinian state living side by side

[10:56] with peace in Israel, deserves the

[10:58] support of the world. and he deserves

[11:00] support in peeling his government away

[11:02] from those who do not recognize Israel's

[11:05] right to exist. And therefore, Condisa

[11:07] Rice will be going to talk to Abu Mazin

[11:10] uh tomorrow as well as Prime Minister

[11:12] Omar, working with both parties together

[11:15] to see how we can advance the vision

[11:17] that the prime minister himself talked

[11:19] about earlier this week.

[11:23] >> My my advice is support reasonable

[11:26] people and reject extremists.

[11:29] understand that most people want to live

[11:31] in peace and harmony and security. It's

[11:35] very important for the American people

[11:36] to understand that most Muslim mothers

[11:40] want their children to grow up in peace

[11:42] and they're interested in peace. And

[11:44] it's in our interest to help liberty

[11:47] prevail in the Middle East, starting

[11:48] with Iraq. And that's why this business

[11:50] about graceful exit just simply has no

[11:53] realism to it at all. We're going to

[11:55] help this government. And I'm able to

[11:58] say that it is that we have a government

[12:00] that wants our help and is becoming more

[12:03] capable about taking the lead in the

[12:05] fight to protect our own country. The

[12:07] only way that Iraq is going to be able

[12:08] to succeed is when the Iraqis

[12:11] led by a capable person says we're tired

[12:14] of it. We don't want violence. We want

[12:17] the peace that our 12 million people

[12:19] voted for and it's in the world's

[12:22] interest that Iraq succeed.

[12:25] Mr. Prime Minister, you want to answer

[12:26] some more questions?

[12:30] >> You want more? Go ahead.

[12:32] >> Hold on for a minute. Hold on for a

[12:33] minute.

[12:38] >> Sixth question. No, this is the seventh

[12:39] and this is the eighth. Eighth

[12:41] questions,

[12:44] >> Mr. President,

[12:47] so to speak. You know

[12:49] >> which one, Mr. Prime Minister, would you

[12:50] mind calling on one of your press?

[12:54] >> Yeah, this guy. Okay.

[12:58] In light of the war that the United

[13:00] States is fighting against terror in

[13:02] Iraq, what has been accomplished? What

[13:03] do you expect to be accomplished after

[13:06] three-year confrontation? Another

[13:08] question. Other people are accusing

[13:11] United States of bringing terrorism to

[13:13] Iraq.

[13:15] And the proof is that what's going on in

[13:17] Iraq and what's going on in Afghanistan,

[13:18] the proof is that and and what's the

[13:21] biggest loser is the Iraqi citizen.

[13:24] >> That's an interesting analysis. The

[13:26] biggest loser for a free society is the

[13:28] Iraqi citizen when this society was just

[13:31] uh liberated from the uh grips of a a

[13:34] brutal tyrant that killed thousands and

[13:37] thousands of the Iraqi citizens. Uh I I

[13:40] I what has been accomplished is the

[13:43] liberation of a country from a tyrant

[13:47] who is now sitting in jail getting a

[13:50] trial that he was unwilling to give

[13:52] thousands of people he murdered himself

[13:54] or had murdered. Secondly, a this

[13:57] country has a constitution which is one

[13:59] of the most modern constitutions ever

[14:01] written in the Middle East. Uh this is a

[14:03] government that has been elected by the

[14:05] people. No question it's tough. But the

[14:08] reason why terrorists are trying to stop

[14:11] uh the advance of freedom in Iraq is the

[14:15] very reason why we need to help them

[14:18] because they can't stand democracies and

[14:20] they want to impose a hateful vision

[14:23] on as much of the world as possible.

[14:26] They want safe haven from which to

[14:28] launch attacks again. A safe haven in

[14:31] Iraq, a country that has got a lot of

[14:33] resources, would be very dangerous for

[14:35] America.

[14:37] It didn't take but 19 people who were

[14:40] trained in Afghanistan to get on

[14:43] airplanes and come and kill over 3,000

[14:46] citizens in my country.

[14:49] Threats that gather overseas must be

[14:52] taken seriously

[14:54] if we want to protect ourselves. And the

[14:56] best way to protect ourselves is to hunt

[14:59] down the terrorists and to help young

[15:01] democracy survive.

[15:04] Freedom and liberty is the great

[15:06] alternative to the hateful vision of

[15:09] those who are willing to murder innocent

[15:10] lives to achieve their objective.

[15:14] And so, you bet it's worth it in Iraq

[15:16] and necessary. And I was very proud and

[15:19] pleased to see 12 million Iraqis go to

[15:22] the polls

[15:24] to be able to express their desires,

[15:27] their wishes

[15:29] as they helped put a government in place

[15:33] now leads.

[15:38] >> Thank you very much.

[15:43] >> Thank you all. Good to see you. So,

[15:46] President Bush and Prime Minister Nuriel

[15:48] Maliki of Iraq, they're shaking hands

[15:50] after a press conference which amounted

[15:53] to a very strong vote of confidence by

[15:56] President Bush for this bleaguered Iraqi

[15:59] leader uh the leader of a nation at war

[16:02] with itself, a civil war by any measure

[16:05] really. President Bush calling him a

[16:07] strong leader who wants a free and

[16:08] democratic Iraq to succeed. And more

[16:10] informally, President Bush said he's the

[16:13] right guy for Iraq and we're going to

[16:15] help. And there were a couple of

[16:16] headlines out of this. First, President

[16:19] Bush said that this meeting essentially

[16:21] increased Prime Minister Maliki's power,

[16:24] his uh capabilities, his authorities, he

[16:27] kept saying it, to fight the war. One of

[16:28] the complaints the prime minister has

[16:30] had is he can't control his own army. It

[16:32] sounds like he will be able to give more

[16:34] orders on the battlefield. Both men came

[16:37] out strongly against any partition, any

[16:39] splitting up uh of Iraq. Uh and they

[16:42] both said that Iraq uh would essentially

[16:45] be for Iraqis, that there should be no

[16:47] meddling by uh neighboring countries.

[16:49] Let's go right now to Terry McCarthy,

[16:52] ABC's Terry McCarthy, our lead reporter

[16:54] in Baghdad, who's in Aman right now.

[16:56] Terry, you know, Prime Minister Al

[16:58] Maliki and you know Iraq as well. We

[17:01] heard a lot about uh reconciliation,

[17:04] about taking on the criminals. I just

[17:07] wonder how much of what you heard from

[17:09] these two leaders, how much does it bear

[17:11] on the reality of Iraq as you see it and

[17:14] experience when you report in Baghdad?

[17:18] Well, of course, the uh the main thing

[17:20] that came out of this press conference

[17:21] from Maliki's perspective is a

[17:23] commitment uh by President Bush to

[17:26] accelerate the handing over of security

[17:28] responsibilities to the Iraqi forces to

[17:30] the prime minister himself. And that of

[17:32] course is something that he has been

[17:33] saying for some time that for as as long

[17:35] as the United States is the primary lead

[17:38] in uh supplying security in Iraq, that

[17:40] actually makes the the problems worse,

[17:42] not not better. So, he would like to see

[17:44] uh more security uh responsibility on

[17:47] the Iraqi side, which would in his eyes

[17:49] at least take the heat out of the

[17:51] insurgency, take the heat out of the uh

[17:53] the problems his government is facing.

[17:54] Terry,

[17:56] >> and we're joined also by Martha Ratitz

[17:58] on the phone, who you heard her ask a

[18:00] question of the president of the United

[18:01] States. Martha, I want to ask you, uh,

[18:03] there's a lot of talk in Washington,

[18:05] around the country, uh, that the

[18:06] president after the November elections

[18:09] will be forced to set some kind of

[18:12] horizon in the Iraq war, tell the

[18:14] American people that he has a vision of

[18:16] the troops coming home. We didn't hear

[18:18] that from him in there at all.

[18:20] >> We certainly didn't hear that. And he

[18:22] said very strongly he was he had no

[18:24] plans to bring the troops home. He was

[18:27] setting no kinds of goals for Maliki. He

[18:30] said the goal is for them to get these

[18:32] Iraqi security forces working and up and

[18:35] moving as soon as possible. And that's

[18:37] all he kept saying over and over. Terry,

[18:39] in fact, I didn't think there was very

[18:41] much new in what they announced at all.

[18:43] We already knew about the Iraqi security

[18:45] forces and both wanted to accelerate uh

[18:48] the Iraqi security forces and the

[18:50] training and the equipping. And what he

[18:51] was talking about there was logistic

[18:53] support. Uh that's one of the things the

[18:55] Iraqi security forces have suffered

[18:56] from. they have not been able to go from

[18:58] one place to another without the help of

[19:00] US troops. I was also surprised that he

[19:02] said that US troops should be involved

[19:05] in sectarian violence, should be

[19:07] involved in separating these sides.

[19:10] >> There's a lot of question Martha as you

[19:12] know about the capabilities of those

[19:13] Iraqi troops. A lot of people think they

[19:15] simply are not ready for the task. But

[19:17] it sounds as if Prime Minister Maliki is

[19:20] going to get charge of them and send

[19:21] them into the fight if they'll go. Let's

[19:24] go to Baghdad now. Hillary Brown is

[19:26] there for us right now. And Hillary, I

[19:28] want to ask you as you listened and

[19:29] watched this press conference, you know,

[19:30] here in America, there was so much

[19:32] anticipation for this meeting as if

[19:34] something significant, a big change

[19:37] would come out of it. What's the feeling

[19:39] about this summit in Baghdad? And how do

[19:41] you sense the relationship between what

[19:44] we heard from these leaders and the

[19:46] reality on the streets there?

[19:50] >> Well, here in Baghdad, there wasn't a

[19:52] great deal of uh expectation. I mean

[19:55] there were no high hopes for the uh uh

[19:57] you know for this summit and of course

[19:59] as we know the um the Saturn block which

[20:01] is a very powerful political block in

[20:03] Mali's own government has suspended its

[20:05] participation uh because Maliki went uh

[20:09] the Shi want a timetable for US

[20:12] withdrawal and they want it now but on

[20:14] this question of the militias which came

[20:16] up in the news conference it's important

[20:19] I think for people to understand that it

[20:21] is very difficult for Maliki to crack

[20:24] down on the militias, notably the Matei

[20:26] army, because the Matei army is the

[20:28] military wing of the Solder Party, which

[20:32] is one of the most important parties in

[20:34] government and is a a crucial part of

[20:36] his own political base. And how is he

[20:40] going to take on the Mady Army? By the

[20:42] estimates are that it numbers now about

[20:44] 40,000 men, maybe maybe even as many as

[20:47] 60,000. Now, that is about five times

[20:49] the number of combat ready Iraqi troops

[20:53] now on the ground. So, what's left? Uh

[20:56] the police. Well, the police are

[20:57] notoriously infiltrated by the Shia

[21:00] militia. So, it's it's a kind of mission

[21:02] impossible for him.

[21:05] >> A private army there that he is expected

[21:08] to crack down on by President Bush.

[21:10] Let's go back to Terry McCarthy for a

[21:11] moment. You know, Terry, uh, President

[21:14] Bush just said that Nurio Maliki is the

[21:16] right guy for Iraq and that the United

[21:19] States would help him. And one of the

[21:20] things the United States is now

[21:22] expecting is that there will be some

[21:24] grand political bargain, some way of

[21:27] bringing all the waring parties together

[21:30] into a unity government, a political

[21:32] solution here. Is Al Maliki the guy to

[21:35] do that?

[21:38] That's of course the big question. And

[21:39] of course the uh leaked uh memo from

[21:42] Steven Hadley yesterday raised that

[21:44] question a new the American uh

[21:46] administration is is saying in public of

[21:48] Maliki is their man. But in private

[21:50] clearly they're having doubts and of

[21:52] course Maliki is uh is very nervous that

[21:54] he would be dropped by the Americans.

[21:56] That's why it was so important for him

[21:57] to get this endorsement by President

[21:59] Bush today. But behind the scenes

[22:01] clearly they're having very tough

[22:02] discussions and Maliki is not very

[22:04] happy. He's not happy that the sadder

[22:06] block pulled out of his government. He's

[22:07] also unhappy that this memo was released

[22:09] and he may be his position may be in

[22:11] jeopardy. Terry,

[22:12] >> right? Something of a contrast between

[22:14] the public and and private view of

[22:16] Maliki by the American government.

[22:18] Charlie Gibson, ABC News anchor of World

[22:21] News, is on the phone with us. He was in

[22:22] the room there. Charlie, I wonder uh

[22:24] what you make of the president's vote of

[22:26] confidence for the belleaguered Mr.

[22:29] Maliki.

[22:30] >> Well, it's interesting to what extent it

[22:32] was a an expression of confidence. They

[22:34] talked about adjustments. The president

[22:36] used that word adjustments of US

[22:38] strategy. He also talked about

[22:40] acceleration of of hurrying

[22:42] responsibility or greater transfer of

[22:45] responsibility to the Iraqi unity

[22:47] government. Um but there really I

[22:50] thought was sort of less than meets the

[22:51] eye out of this. You get some sense uh

[22:54] um that not a whole lot was achieved in

[22:56] that meeting. It's difficult to tell. we

[22:57] weren't a fly on the wall in that

[22:59] meeting itself. But uh uh other than the

[23:01] president's talk about adjustments and

[23:02] about acceleration, I don't think there

[23:04] was an awful lot that came out of this.

[23:06] Uh the president did say uh this talk of

[23:09] a graceful exit is just uh not real. And

[23:12] uh that was an endorsement. And I guess

[23:14] if you take anything out of this, it is

[23:16] uh um that while we wait for commissions

[23:19] and while we wait for various study

[23:21] groups to report on uh their feelings of

[23:24] what ought to be changed that uh the

[23:25] president doesn't envision much change,

[23:28] at least from what he said today.

[23:30] >> Absolutely. The bottom line that we

[23:32] heard from President Bush today did not

[23:35] differ that much from what he's been

[23:36] saying for a long time. He said, "The

[23:38] United States will stay in Iraq until

[23:39] the job is done, as long as the Iraqi

[23:42] government wants us there." One headline

[23:44] once again may be that it seems as if

[23:47] the Iraqi government will now have more

[23:48] control over the battlefield, the

[23:50] accelerating of authorities, as the

[23:52] president called it, command over Iraqi

[23:54] troops uh in the war, the civil war in

[23:58] Iraq. We're going to return now to our

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[24:04] Iraq. And in the meantime, you can

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