Southwest Flavor Ep. 186 - John Winchester, Dr. Jesus Bernal, Melanie Morgan
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[0:16] >> Out here in the Southwest, every person
[0:18] has a story and every story has a little
[0:21] flavor. It's time to tune in now with
[0:24] host Ron Arinas as he sits down with the
[0:27] business owners, community leaders,
[0:29] local change makers, and everyday people
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[0:48] >> Good morning, everyone. Welcome to
[0:50] Southwest flavor. I am your host, Ron
[0:52] Arinas. We have our co-host, Will Peña,
[0:55] with us.
[0:55] >> Buenos días, amigos.
[0:56] >> Good morning. How are you doing?
[0:58] >> I'm doing good, man. What can I say?
[0:58] >> Good. Good. Thank you for for making the
[1:01] drive up the freeway and
[1:02] >> Thanks for Thanks for lowering your
[1:04] standards and allowing me to come in
[1:05] here.
[1:06] Appreciate that.
[1:07] >> It's in the contract.
[1:10] >> Yes, I've learned
[1:11] >> As we always say.
[1:12] >> Yes, it's in the contract. Yes,
[1:13] absolutely.
[1:14] >> And that other voice that we hear is the
[1:17] distinguished John Winchester.
[1:18] >> Distinguished. Wow. Thank you. Thank
[1:20] you.
[1:21] >> Well, you know, I had to give you the
[1:22] compliments to get you in the studio.
[1:23] So,
[1:24] I'll just continue keep you here for at
[1:26] least half an hour.
[1:27] And then and then we can get back to
[1:29] reality.
[1:30] >> And then
[1:30] the gloves come off, my friend.
[1:33] The gloves will come off.
[1:34] >> Let's go.
[1:34] >> Yeah.
[1:35] >> Thank you for coming in today.
[1:37] >> Thanks Thanks for letting me be the
[1:38] flavor of the day.
[1:39] >> Yeah, that's right.
[1:41] Tell us a little bit about yourself.
[1:43] >> I'm born and raised right here in
[1:44] Tucson. This is home. I've never lived
[1:46] anywhere else. Traveled a lot. Travel
[1:48] for work a lot, but Tucson's home.
[1:51] Um
[1:51] watched it watched it develop and change
[1:54] over the last, you know, 40 years, but
[1:56] >> Man, and it's changed so much.
[1:58] >> It certainly has. I I know
[2:00] it's it's always funny cuz I do quite a
[2:02] bit of a work with with folks from uh
[2:04] Pima Community College, and I grew up at
[2:05] Fourth Avenue and Second Street, so
[2:07] pretty close to their downtown campus.
[2:09] >> And I I remember I I always tell them
[2:12] like I remember when your marquee was uh
[2:14] Pizza Hut.
[2:15] >> Yes.
[2:16] Yes.
[2:16] >> Right there on the corner. We used to go
[2:17] there to get pizza.
[2:18] >> Yeah.
[2:19] >> And uh the rest of the downtown campus
[2:20] was trailers.
[2:22] >> Yes.
[2:23] >> Yeah, I went to the downtown campus.
[2:25] >> Yeah.
[2:25] >> Man, I
[2:26] >> When that Pizza Hut was there.
[2:27] >> That's right. So, it it it the the it's
[2:29] it's come a long way. Um
[2:31] >> Man, you guys are old.
[2:33] >> Hey, man.
[2:35] Only my wife can tell me that.
[2:38] >> Well, she told me this morning to tell
[2:39] you that.
[2:40] >> Damn, she called me a little while ago.
[2:41] >> She's like, just tell him.
[2:42] >> Yeah.
[2:43] >> Stick him with the truth.
[2:44] >> Tell him the truth.
[2:46] >> But yeah, I know Tucson's home. Um went
[2:48] to the Univer- UVA and Pima.
[2:51] >> Yeah.
[2:51] >> Um I grew up four blocks from the UVA,
[2:53] so being down there at Fourth Avenue and
[2:54] Second Street, I was I was on the street
[2:57] in '97 when the Wildcats won the
[2:59] national championship. So, I watched
[3:01] them burn that bar down.
[3:03] >> My mom
[3:04] >> Please tell me you watched, right?
[3:05] >> Just watched. Just I was not involved,
[3:07] but I did see the smoke. Uh no, my mom
[3:10] my mom was a cardiac ICU nurse, and she
[3:12] worked nights, so she was not home.
[3:15] >> And so how that's why I was where I was
[3:16] not supposed to be.
[3:18] Um but uh but yeah, man, um grew up grew
[3:22] up uh hanging out on campus. I know UVA
[3:25] area really well. Time Pizza or Thai
[3:27] Market. Yeah, I used to get pizza a lot
[3:28] of time uh Thai Market. Um but this is
[3:31] home. This is home. My family lives
[3:33] here. My my siblings most of my
[3:35] siblings. I've got seven siblings. Uh
[3:38] six sisters.
[3:39] >> Wow.
[3:40] >> Yeah, I I appreciate I do that for the
[3:42] sympathy.
[3:42] >> Right.
[3:43] >> I do it for the sympathy.
[3:44] >> Oh, yeah.
[3:44] >> Uh so, I got I have six sisters.
[3:46] >> How many bathrooms did you guys have?
[3:48] >> Not enough.
[3:48] >> Right.
[3:49] >> Let me tell you, not enough.
[3:51] Uh but uh but and most of my family
[3:53] still lives here, my cousins, my aunts
[3:55] and uncles and so this is this is home.
[3:57] My brother lives right next door to me
[3:58] with his kids. We're raising our
[3:59] families
[4:01] right next door to each other just right
[4:02] around the corner from here.
[4:03] >> Yeah.
[4:04] >> Um and so this is home.
[4:07] Uh we we love it here
[4:09] and just trying to work to make it the
[4:11] best place it can be.
[4:12] >> Awesome. All right. And then you decided
[4:14] to run this year.
[4:15] >> Yeah. Running for office that's part of
[4:17] trying to make make my community the
[4:19] best it can be.
[4:20] You know, I've been involved in the
[4:21] community for a long time. I got
[4:23] involved in politics when I was younger
[4:25] high school.
[4:26] Um I worked all you know, worked a lot
[4:28] of campaigns through college but once I
[4:30] started working for a living I couldn't
[4:31] I couldn't work campaigns as much and
[4:34] and then was really just kind of MIA and
[4:36] from politics once I got started having
[4:38] kids.
[4:39] >> Sure.
[4:40] >> So like a lot of other working families,
[4:42] you know, you're just focused on going
[4:44] to work and providing a living and
[4:46] raising raising kids.
[4:47] >> Yeah.
[4:48] >> So
[4:49] but I got back in and I through my job I
[4:53] I work a lot in public policy and and
[4:55] manage a lot of relationships down here
[4:57] and I sit on public policy committees
[4:59] for
[5:00] the chambers and for the Southern
[5:02] Arizona Leadership Council and and
[5:03] several other organizations and we look
[5:05] at what are the drivers? What are the
[5:07] things that are
[5:09] that that we can do or what are the
[5:10] things that are keeping Tucson from
[5:12] becoming its best self
[5:14] from a from a government standpoint and
[5:15] how can we work to to change those
[5:17] things? So the interest has been there
[5:19] for a long time. I wasn't trying to
[5:22] run right now.
[5:24] But the opportunity came and after you
[5:27] know, talking about it with my wife we
[5:28] decided that this is this is the time to
[5:29] pull the trigger. So that's what we're
[5:31] doing.
[5:32] I
[5:33] I want to
[5:34] you know, at the legislature serve serve
[5:37] the state. Um but Tucson Tucson's you
[5:40] know, the second largest city the
[5:42] region's got over a million people
[5:44] in the in the greater region and so it
[5:47] has a huge impact on on the direction
[5:49] and the success of the state and and
[5:51] Southern Arizona is not doing great.
[5:54] So I hope to be able to be make things a
[5:57] little easier for families and and we do
[5:59] that by supporting the economy.
[6:01] >> Right. Exactly. I mean as you know and
[6:03] both of us are business owners, you know
[6:05] as you know a healthy
[6:07] business population just helps the whole
[6:11] population in total.
[6:12] >> No it is everything it's it's
[6:15] Communities are symbiotic. It's not like
[6:16] you can like cut parts of them out.
[6:19] It all works together.
[6:20] >> Right.
[6:20] >> And when you have a strong business
[6:23] community you have a strong tax base.
[6:25] You have strong
[6:26] the abilities for families to earn
[6:28] higher wages. So they have discretionary
[6:30] income. The government can take what
[6:32] they need to do to provide for public
[6:34] safety and schools and infrastructure
[6:36] and all of those things and and then
[6:38] those
[6:39] as you have vibrant families and you
[6:40] have good
[6:41] public education, public safety
[6:44] and and public infrastructure that all
[6:46] feeds back into helping businesses stay
[6:49] strong and grow and prosper. So it's a
[6:51] symbiotic relationship and I but I in
[6:54] Southern Arizona I think we've skipped
[6:56] the part of really supporting business.
[6:57] >> Yeah.
[6:58] >> And you know we know that businesses are
[7:02] the key element of a community because
[7:04] we got a lot of ghost towns in in
[7:06] Arizona.
[7:07] >> yeah.
[7:07] >> And that's where the business dried up.
[7:08] That's where that's where
[7:10] industry couldn't couldn't keep going.
[7:12] >> we see a lot of mining towns that you
[7:14] know the
[7:14] >> And that dries up.
[7:16] >> Yeah.
[7:16] >> There's nothing left. The town goes with
[7:18] it. There's nothing left. And so we need
[7:21] we need a healthy vibrant
[7:24] economy so that all all phases of the
[7:27] community can can properly function. And
[7:30] that's where it starts.
[7:32] Communities are built primarily even
[7:33] even if you think about like frontiers
[7:35] and things. When people showed up here
[7:37] it was for trading. It wasn't because it
[7:38] was a nice strong government.
[7:41] >> It wasn't for the beach either.
[7:43] >> It wasn't either. So, the people come to
[7:45] Tucson, Southern Arizona because of
[7:47] trade. So, business is always the
[7:50] foundation and if you don't take care of
[7:52] it and that and that feeds into what are
[7:54] the needs of of business? You need a
[7:55] good education system because you need
[7:57] people you need to create people that
[7:59] have skill sets so they can go out and
[8:01] earn a living, but also industries need
[8:03] to hire people with good skill sets to
[8:06] to keep their businesses running and and
[8:08] you need that public public safety. We
[8:10] were just talking about on the show
[8:11] earlier. I don't know if you guys heard
[8:12] it, but uh the state is sending state
[8:14] troopers down here, state police to come
[8:16] down here and and and and uh subsidize
[8:19] because of crime, violent crime. And and
[8:22] it's like, well, yeah, this has been
[8:23] going on a while. Why did it take so
[8:24] long?
[8:25] That's unhealthy for businesses because
[8:27] people don't want to go out. People and
[8:29] businesses have all of the you're an
[8:31] HVAC and how many systems have you had
[8:33] to fix or replace because the copper was
[8:35] completely stripped out of it. You know,
[8:37] it's and how how have insurance has
[8:39] insurance gone up because of all of it?
[8:41] So, it's all it's all self-inflicting
[8:44] and and we need to just secure our
[8:46] communities and have good roads and and
[8:48] good education system. That's what we
[8:49] need. So, those are the things that I'm
[8:51] I work on. Those are the that's the
[8:52] space that I currently work in and I'm
[8:55] excited. I I Tucson's a wonderful place
[8:57] and it's got a lot of opportunity and I
[9:00] want to see it
[9:01] achieve that, so.
[9:03] >> Yeah, you know, I think that
[9:05] you know, a lot a lot needs to be done
[9:07] in Tucson. It's you know, speaking of
[9:10] you know, the troopers coming down to
[9:12] help out, you know, local PD. I mean,
[9:15] it's just
[9:16] >> The burden is too big for them.
[9:18] >> Yeah, absolutely.
[9:19] >> underfunded and not just in personnel. I
[9:22] I found out during this you find out all
[9:24] kinds of stuff when you run for office
[9:25] and one of the things I found out that
[9:27] Tucson police only 8% of their budget is
[9:30] operations. Now, we're already know that
[9:32] they don't have enough police officers,
[9:33] but 92% of their budget is personnel.
[9:37] That is wild because they are they are a
[9:39] um a uh
[9:41] equipment heavy
[9:42] depar- uh uh
[9:44] you know, department. They require you
[9:45] got vests, you've got firearms, you've
[9:47] got uniforms, you've got cars, you've
[9:49] got helicopter, whatever whatever it is
[9:51] that they're doing, they need to have a
[9:53] tons of They have high equipment needs
[9:54] to help them do their job. Right. And 8%
[9:58] of their budget, like that is wild to
[10:00] me.
[10:00] >> Yeah.
[10:00] >> It is absolutely wild to me. And
[10:02] even at the YMCA where I was running,
[10:04] usually you know, your personnel is like
[10:06] 70 to 75 and then the rest is like
[10:09] >> 8% 8% is is crazy.
[10:12] >> It seems like an afterthought at that
[10:13] point.
[10:13] >> At that point it is it is exactly right.
[10:15] It's like, well, you don't need these
[10:16] other things. Like we realize at some
[10:18] point that police need we the reason
[10:20] they have all this equipment is cuz they
[10:21] need all this equipment. And And what's
[10:23] sad, it should be heartbreaking for
[10:24] people, is that we have we rely on
[10:26] nonprofits to raise money to get police
[10:28] equipment. We rely on the federal
[10:30] getting federal dollars to come back and
[10:32] pay for police equipment. And
[10:34] Tucson
[10:35] should be able to pay for that. Like we
[10:37] we shouldn't be leaving our officers in
[10:39] the lurch.
[10:39] >> Right.
[10:40] >> And so you think about why in the world
[10:41] we have to have state troopers coming
[10:43] down here to secure our community and
[10:45] our inner city. And it's a will it's a
[10:47] choice. It is an absolute choice that we
[10:50] have not funded our police officers. And
[10:52] by the way, I'll throw this out there
[10:53] since I am running for the state
[10:54] legislature, our state troopers are
[10:56] underfunded.
[10:57] >> Yeah.
[10:57] >> And they need support from the state uh
[10:59] to to get funded properly and so that
[11:01] they can recruit more officers. They're
[11:02] under uh throughout the state of
[11:04] Arizona, it's chronic. We have we have
[11:06] we have departments that are completely
[11:07] undermanned and underfunded. Um and and
[11:10] we've got to stop that if we want the
[11:12] economy to keep going.
[11:14] >> Yeah.
[11:14] >> Uh because they safety and security is
[11:16] the best way to do business.
[11:18] >> Yeah, no, absolutely.
[11:19] >> Right.
[11:19] >> Yeah. Yeah, I mean, you know, with my my
[11:22] insurance business and being in in the
[11:24] south side, you know, it the the
[11:26] definitely the crime in the area
[11:28] definitely affects our business.
[11:30] >> Yeah.
[11:30] >> Um it's
[11:32] you know getting getting walk-ins and
[11:35] then telling us you know
[11:37] sometimes we're afraid to come here
[11:38] because
[11:39] you know
[11:40] a lot of homeless on the streets or you
[11:42] know in in the parking lots and
[11:44] you know so it's it's one of those
[11:46] things that you know
[11:48] you know we we we we call the police for
[11:49] something and unless it's you know
[11:51] they're brandishing a weapon or
[11:52] something they're not showing up
[11:54] they don't have the
[11:58] >> And we're right our office is right by
[12:00] the UofA and it's affected our business
[12:02] you know several times just by people
[12:05] you know doing stuff.
[12:07] >> Yeah I mean it's it's terrible honestly
[12:10] and there's no need for it. It's it is
[12:11] self-inflicted. It is a choice. What we
[12:14] have in Tucson is a choice. It's not an
[12:16] accident and and that's the other thing
[12:18] part of the reason I've decided to run
[12:20] is because I'm sick and tired of elected
[12:22] people acting like
[12:24] they don't like
[12:26] this just happens to us. This is part of
[12:29] a national trend.
[12:30] I'm like no take ownership and fix this.
[12:33] We can fix this. We can solve
[12:35] homelessness. We can solve crime. We can
[12:38] solve all of these things. We need it's
[12:40] just a choice. We have to choose to want
[12:42] to do it and and and and we're just we
[12:44] have chosen to not for whatever the
[12:48] varieties I'm sure there are varieties
[12:49] of reasons. We've chosen to not and
[12:51] that's why it's here.
[12:53] Tucson is just we're just not in a good
[12:55] place and and we can get there. Tucson's
[12:57] a great place. It's outside still has
[12:59] the best
[13:00] >> Oh they do.
[13:00] >> Oh yeah I mean
[13:01] I tell everybody that yeah.
[13:03] >> Oh my god like it's still the best food.
[13:05] That 12th Avenue corridor yeah that's
[13:07] where it's all at. It's so good and and
[13:10] we have rich and vibrant communities
[13:11] here. There's so much to celebrate.
[13:14] >> And multi-generational
[13:16] families have been here for years and
[13:18] years and years yeah.
[13:19] >> Tucson's Tucson is a great place. I was
[13:22] just talking to an old a friend of mine.
[13:23] He had moved away and he's
[13:25] to for work. You know a lot of lot of
[13:28] young people.
[13:29] I'm I'm I'm
[13:30] I'm blessed to have a job, but my job is
[13:32] based in Phoenix.
[13:33] >> Yeah.
[13:34] >> Because there's not for for folks who
[13:36] are I'm not an entrepreneur like you
[13:38] guys. I don't have my own business. I
[13:40] don't have any desire to start my own
[13:42] business.
[13:43] But
[13:44] no, I think that there that's a special
[13:47] that's a special skill set that that you
[13:49] have to be able to say, "Hey, this is
[13:52] what I want to do." and
[13:53] I don't have that. I'm not an
[13:54] entrepreneur. But my business but the
[13:57] the job availability for young people
[13:59] and I'm still they call me old earlier.
[14:01] So I'm young people.
[14:04] >> Who did that?
[14:05] >> I'm not saying.
[14:08] >> Your wife.
[14:09] >> Your wife did that.
[14:10] >> That's right.
[14:11] >> But for young people we bleed young
[14:14] people. Those people that are in their
[14:15] late 20s, early 40s looking for their
[14:18] mid-career jobs. We just don't have them
[14:20] here and they leave.
[14:22] >> Yeah.
[14:22] >> So I was talking with I had lunch with a
[14:23] friend my friend yesterday and he's
[14:24] like, "I'm trying to find a way to come
[14:25] back. I'm trying to find a way to come
[14:27] back." He's trying to figure out how he
[14:28] can move back because we love Tucson.
[14:30] Like this is home.
[14:31] >> Right.
[14:32] >> Like we love love the community. We love
[14:34] the vibes, but we we've got to fix some
[14:36] things so that families can afford to
[14:38] stay here because if it's not if you
[14:41] people in mid-career can't stay here.
[14:42] That's the family reason.
[14:43] >> Mhm.
[14:44] >> Right.
[14:44] >> Those are the time that's the times when
[14:46] your people are building families and if
[14:48] they can't do it then then they won't.
[14:50] >> Right.
[14:50] >> And so we need to secure that. Like that
[14:52] that has to be a top of mind top
[14:55] priority.
[14:55] >> Yeah.
[14:56] Yeah, in that age rate age range, you
[14:59] know, if you don't have that mid-career
[15:01] family
[15:03] that next generation's not going to be
[15:04] here either.
[15:05] >> No.
[15:05] >> You know, so you're looking at future
[15:07] losses in our population in Tucson.
[15:09] >> Continue. I mean our population has been
[15:11] flat.
[15:11] >> Yeah.
[15:12] >> Like the from one census I think in the
[15:15] when we did the census in 2020 2021,
[15:19] our population was flat. We didn't grow.
[15:21] >> Right.
[15:21] >> Yeah. And and I mean
[15:24] People are leaving because we have
[15:26] population that's moving in.
[15:27] >> Yeah.
[15:27] >> But the population that's at their
[15:28] working years, child-rearing years, uh
[15:31] family-raising years,
[15:32] >> Yeah.
[15:32] >> they're they're they're going. They're
[15:33] going elsewhere.
[15:34] >> Right. And talking as old guys, you
[15:36] know, we need that next generation cuz
[15:38] those are our future workers, our future
[15:39] voters, our future business owners,
[15:42] >> our future customers,
[15:43] >> customers, yeah.
[15:44] >> Yeah, homeowners and everything.
[15:46] >> But it's also I mean it's like we we
[15:49] live we grew up here.
[15:50] >> We stayed here.
[15:50] >> Mhm.
[15:51] >> But there's a lot of folks that just
[15:52] aren't.
[15:53] >> Yeah.
[15:53] >> And and you know, there's something
[15:55] maybe it's old-timey, maybe I'm a little
[15:56] too romantic on this issue, but like
[15:58] there's something cool about living in
[16:00] the town. My kids are going to the same
[16:01] school that I went to.
[16:02] >> Oh, wow. Cool.
[16:03] >> some of the same teachers.
[16:04] >> So I told you I'm not old.
[16:06] >> Wow.
[16:07] >> some of the same teachers. They're old.
[16:10] >> Yeah.
[16:11] >> They're old though.
[16:11] >> That's actually that's truth, man. It
[16:14] happens so fast. I don't know. I
[16:15] remember my my boy was so small and now
[16:17] he's a giant. I'm just I don't
[16:18] understand it.
[16:20] >> But like there's something cool about
[16:22] that. There's something really like
[16:23] intergenerationally connected
[16:25] >> Right.
[16:26] >> to a place um and to a to a community. I
[16:28] think that's that's beautiful.
[16:30] >> Right.
[16:30] >> Uh and it's not common these days.
[16:32] >> No.
[16:32] >> Um but in Tucson it's exacerbated by the
[16:34] fact that a lot of people have to leave
[16:36] to go find work elsewhere.
[16:37] >> Right.
[16:38] >> Um so it's it's uh you know, we we can
[16:41] we can do this. We can do this. I'm not
[16:43] despondent. The opportunities for Tucson
[16:45] are great. It's a great place to live.
[16:47] >> It's going to take a lot of hard work.
[16:48] >> But it takes it it's going to take some
[16:49] work.
[16:50] >> A little bit of pain. A little bit of
[16:51] pain.
[16:52] >> A little bit of sacrifice.
[16:53] >> Yeah.
[16:53] >> But we're we're paying the price one way
[16:55] or another by doing nothing or by doing
[16:57] something. Well, there's a price to be
[16:58] paid.
[16:59] >> Right.
[16:59] >> So at least let's try to move the ball
[17:00] forward.
[17:01] >> Yeah.
[17:02] >> Absolutely.
[17:02] >> Let's let's talk a little bit before our
[17:04] time's up. Um
[17:06] the ticket, you know, because there's
[17:07] there's several people for LD 17. We
[17:11] want to make sure that people know who
[17:13] to vote for because
[17:14] >> Absolutely.
[17:15] >> there's there's two votes. You get two
[17:17] votes in there.
[17:18] >> the house and one in the Senate. So, the
[17:19] way So, not federal
[17:21] uh
[17:22] our the way that the state system is is
[17:24] that every district, whatever everybody
[17:27] lives in a district,
[17:28] uh has two house seats and one Senate
[17:30] seat to vote for. And um
[17:33] we are I'm running as a Republican for
[17:35] those people who who who who don't know.
[17:38] Um I'm running as a Republican. I I
[17:40] believe in the principles of
[17:42] Republicanism. I'm not just because I
[17:44] was raised as a Republican or whatever.
[17:45] Like, I believe in the principles of
[17:47] limited government. Uh personal
[17:49] responsibility. Um and uh uh uh the
[17:52] protection of liberty. I I want to be
[17:54] free. I don't I don't need people, you
[17:56] know, I don't need a nanny state.
[17:57] >> Yeah.
[17:58] >> So, um I believe in those things and
[18:00] that's why I'm a Republican in a very
[18:02] traditional sense. Uh but the
[18:04] Republicans have been uh you know, the
[18:06] power at the legislature for years. And
[18:10] that is being threatened. And so, that's
[18:13] one of the reasons that got me in. The
[18:14] thought of living We have the Democrats
[18:16] are
[18:18] you know, we've got the DSA that's
[18:20] involved and that's deeply involved in
[18:22] the party power structure and not just
[18:24] it locally but but statewide.
[18:26] And I'm not interested in that form of
[18:28] government. I'm not interested in in the
[18:30] government taking on more
[18:31] responsibilities. The government is
[18:32] strangling us down here right now. And
[18:35] so, my push has always been if you don't
[18:36] like Tucson and the way that Tucson's
[18:38] being managed, don't send that same set
[18:41] of ideas up to the state to take over
[18:42] the rest of the state. We don't need
[18:44] that. We don't need it at all. We don't
[18:46] need the government trying to control
[18:47] the economy, trying to
[18:49] We just we need the government to focus
[18:51] on public safety, public education,
[18:54] roads, infrastructure,
[18:56] and making sure that our water and
[18:58] energy future is secured as well as
[19:01] land management. Those are There's some
[19:03] very key things in there.
[19:05] >> Yeah.
[19:05] >> Um and I I you know, affordability The
[19:08] Democrats in in southern Arizona have
[19:10] driven up cost through rule making
[19:13] regulation and all of those things and
[19:15] now they're complaining about
[19:16] affordability. And I'm like, well, you
[19:18] guys drove up the cost. You're the ones
[19:19] forcing people to home builders to put,
[19:22] you know,
[19:23] EV chargers in every new build.
[19:26] Commercial buildings the same and things
[19:29] like that. Like you're the one driving
[19:31] up the cost and now you're complaining
[19:33] that costs are too high. You're the one
[19:35] restricting home builders and how and
[19:37] and and and land use and water and all
[19:39] of these things so that we don't we're
[19:41] not building we're still not building at
[19:43] the same level as we were in 2019. We're
[19:45] still not in Tucson.
[19:46] >> Oh, wow.
[19:47] >> And that's because of the difficulties
[19:48] of building in this region. It has
[19:50] nothing to do with the state, has
[19:51] nothing to do with the president, has
[19:53] nothing to do with the other things. I
[19:55] mean, maybe some of those things trickle
[19:56] down, but the vast the primary issues
[19:59] are locally managed and we can fix those
[20:02] things and we can drive down costs. So,
[20:04] I'm running as a Republican. There are
[20:06] two other Republicans running. Chris
[20:08] King is running for the Senate
[20:10] and Rachel Keshall and I are running for
[20:11] the house and we are running to
[20:14] you know, to to keep the legislature in
[20:16] Republican hands. Republicans aren't
[20:17] perfect. We're not.
[20:19] >> Right. Sure.
[20:20] >> We screw up. There are things that we
[20:21] don't pay attention to enough, but what
[20:22] we don't do is what we have a tendency
[20:24] to undershoot meaning
[20:26] the government, you know, we we could do
[20:28] more to to
[20:30] realign government towards its
[20:32] priorities, but we're not taking
[20:34] government to the next overshoot which
[20:36] is government doing too much.
[20:38] We have that see that in the city of
[20:40] Tucson. All of us in LD 17, we don't
[20:43] want city of Tucson. We don't want to
[20:45] live in the city of Tucson. We don't
[20:46] like the management, but don't so don't
[20:47] elect people that are going to take that
[20:50] same kind of management to the state
[20:51] level, that same kind of control, that
[20:53] same kind of regulation. So, I always
[20:54] tell people you get two votes in the in
[20:56] the house. Please execute both of them,
[20:58] myself and Rachel Keshall and then for
[21:01] the Senate it's Chris King because the
[21:03] legislature's got to hold it down. It's
[21:05] the rule making body for the leg- the
[21:06] state, and we've got to hold down the
[21:08] fort. Um we've already seen price
[21:10] controls, rent controls,
[21:12] uh Second Amendment rights violated. Um
[21:15] just And these are bills that didn't
[21:16] pass, but they were proposed in the last
[21:19] session. Um those bills will become a
[21:22] reality uh if if we if if we uh lose
[21:25] this one.
[21:26] >> Yeah.
[21:26] >> So, that's what I always I try to
[21:28] encourage folks. The the Republicans on
[21:30] the ticket, it's there's only two
[21:32] options. It's Republicans or or
[21:34] Democrats. And uh vo- please vote
[21:36] Republican because we need to keep our
[21:37] state state safe from that kind of
[21:40] legislation for the next 2 years.
[21:42] >> Perfect. Well, thank you for coming on
[21:43] today. It's always a pleasure.
[21:45] >> I appreciate you guys.
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[25:19] another guest coming on.
[25:21] >> We do, man. We have one of my good
[25:22] friends here. Dr. Bernell is with us
[25:24] today.
[25:26] >> Welcome.
[25:26] >> Good morning. Thank you.
[25:28] Thank you. It's great to be back.
[25:30] >> Yeah. Thank you for coming back.
[25:32] >> It's cool that Will's here, too.
[25:33] >> Yeah. Yeah.
[25:33] >> Last time I was here, Will wasn't here,
[25:35] so that's cool.
[25:36] >> Yeah. Well, you know, the rating the
[25:37] ratings were falling, so he brought me
[25:39] back.
[25:40] >> So, he brought me back up.
[25:42] >> The way that I heard it was the other
[25:44] way around, because there's
[25:47] >> Yeah, you know, people talk.
[25:51] >> But we always have a great conversation
[25:53] when you're on here. Yeah. So, tell us
[25:55] tell us what's
[25:56] new with you.
[25:57] >> Okay, let me see.
[25:59] The what's new that's been in the works
[26:02] actually probably for a couple of years
[26:03] now is that we're ever closer to
[26:06] starting our 10-week assisted stretch
[26:09] therapist certification program. I
[26:12] really I really want to get that going.
[26:15] One of the advantages of assisted
[26:17] stretch is that it's a therapy that
[26:20] somebody could
[26:21] literally just, you know, study, get a
[26:24] certification,
[26:25] set up a sign, and you have your own
[26:27] business. So, I love that.
[26:29] >> Wow.
[26:29] >> And in addition to that, it's something
[26:31] that can be an added tool for say
[26:33] massage therapists or for personal
[26:35] trainers or
[26:38] for example, some athletic team coaches
[26:41] or whatnot. They can do some of that
[26:42] stretching on some of their athletes.
[26:44] So, I like that, and because I have so
[26:46] much experience, I mean, over 20 years
[26:48] as a chiropractor now,
[26:51] almost 6 years as a an assistant stretch
[26:55] therapist certified with multiple
[26:57] certifications.
[26:59] I'm very proud to brag that for example
[27:01] I've trained my son, I've trained a
[27:03] couple other people and
[27:06] and so it it's working real well, but I
[27:08] want to make it so that I can
[27:11] do more work indirectly. In other words,
[27:14] if I can teach some of my skills, some
[27:16] of the philosophy, some of the science
[27:19] and anatomy behind the assisted
[27:22] stretching. I think that would be
[27:23] fantastic and again and it's a 10-week
[27:26] program. And there are some shorter
[27:28] programs out there, but I think based on
[27:31] the research that I've done
[27:32] >> Mhm.
[27:33] >> a good two and a half three month
[27:35] program would be ideal to get somebody
[27:37] enough training to be able to kind of
[27:40] assess a new client just having them
[27:42] from the street and be able to say, "Hey
[27:44] look, I can help you." Or look, "You
[27:47] know what? What you have is beyond what
[27:48] I can do. You need to go somewhere
[27:50] else." And once they do help to be able
[27:53] to assess and say, "Hey look, we're
[27:54] making progress. Let's keep going." Or
[27:56] hey look, "You know what?
[27:57] This is not being as helpful as I hoped
[28:00] it would. You got to go somewhere else."
[28:02] >> Okay.
[28:03] >> That's the goal. So that's the newest
[28:04] thing.
[28:06] Other than that, just you know, the
[28:08] usual family stuff and
[28:10] lots of hard work.
[28:12] >> Yeah, absolutely. So
[28:15] being a a patient of yours myself
[28:17] >> Yes.
[28:17] >> Um
[28:20] how important is the consistency of
[28:24] of not just going to get the stretch and
[28:27] going that but
[28:28] to also follow the directions that you
[28:30] give in between those stretches.
[28:33] Speaking of someone who
[28:35] who you know
[28:37] who says, "Doc, this isn't working." And
[28:39] it's you know, it's it's six weeks later
[28:40] and I haven't done a darn thing.
[28:42] You know.
[28:43] >> Well
[28:44] >> probably really common.
[28:45] >> It is common and
[28:47] for starters right away I want to make
[28:49] sure I say a stiff spine makes a tired
[28:53] mind. So no matter what's going on if
[28:55] you're stiff, if you're not moving, then
[28:58] your mind's not going to be at its peak.
[29:01] And so that's where we come in. For
[29:02] example,
[29:04] um
[29:05] when you go to the gym and you work out,
[29:07] it takes willpower, it takes strength,
[29:10] it takes, you know, guidance.
[29:12] When you come to us,
[29:14] you essentially just relax. We are, you
[29:16] know, doing some
[29:18] active dynamic stretches where you have
[29:20] to resist or move and whatnot, but the
[29:22] whole point of that is that
[29:24] when
[29:26] you are forced to do something, I'll
[29:28] tell you a quick case that came in
[29:29] yesterday. The wife came in with the
[29:31] husband and she says, "Well, I tell him
[29:33] to move. He's He's gaining weight.
[29:35] That's why he hurts and that's why too
[29:37] much weight on his knees. That's why
[29:38] they hurt."
[29:40] And and I told her I said,
[29:41] "You know what?
[29:43] Uh it's very difficult for somebody in
[29:46] pain to move, number one.
[29:48] >> Sure.
[29:49] >> Number two, once you're not moving as
[29:51] much, your metabolism goes down. So now
[29:54] you gain weight.
[29:55] >> Mhm.
[29:55] >> So now anytime you do actually move,
[29:58] you're hurting again. And so it's a
[30:01] vicious cycle that we put it that we put
[30:03] a stop to. We we cut it at the root and
[30:06] we make sure we help you. And yes,
[30:09] I think part of the issue is that
[30:12] consistency is key, but one of my goals
[30:15] and one of the things that I like to do
[30:16] and actually Will, you helped me with
[30:18] some of these things. Um
[30:20] uh for example,
[30:21] uh simple phrases like walk tall so you
[30:24] don't fall. When you're walking looking
[30:26] at the floor to, you know, just be more
[30:29] careful,
[30:30] >> Right.
[30:30] >> you don't realize it, but you're
[30:31] bringing your head forward. That forward
[30:33] head posture makes you feel heavier and
[30:35] you're more likely to trip and fall.
[30:37] >> Yeah.
[30:37] >> But if you stand up tall as you walk,
[30:39] then you're less likely to fall. And
[30:41] Will actually coined that phrase. He
[30:44] said, "Walk tall so you don't fall." So
[30:46] I was like, "Yeah, that's good. I'm
[30:47] stealing that." He said, "So George, you
[30:49] can have it."
[30:50] >> But you do see a lot of elderly people,
[30:53] more elderly than us, that that are
[30:55] hunched over and looking and kind of
[30:57] shuffling their feet, you know? And And
[30:59] part of that is that they're afraid to
[31:02] fall.
[31:02] >> Yes, and and again, it's
[31:04] counterintuitive.
[31:05] But what I like to tell people is this,
[31:07] our feet are like the antennae for an
[31:11] insect, you know? An insect walks around
[31:12] and they may have poor vision, but those
[31:14] antennae feel the temperature, feel
[31:17] vibrations, feel objects when there's an
[31:19] obstacle. So for us, our feet do that.
[31:23] That's why it's important to have
[31:24] healthy feet, you know, healthy toes,
[31:27] because and and comfortable shoes. I
[31:29] feel bad for women sometimes, the shoes
[31:31] and
[31:32] and high heels and stuff that they wear.
[31:34] >> That's why Will doesn't wear them
[31:35] anymore.
[31:36] >> You stopped wearing your high heels?
[31:40] I'm glad you listened to that part.
[31:42] Don't worry about high heels anymore.
[31:45] But anyways, yeah, so that's what
[31:46] happens. So I we teach our clients, make
[31:49] sure that you are standing upright when
[31:52] you walk, and every step you take, you
[31:54] know, be aware, be cognizant, get in
[31:57] tune with the way your toes are, where
[31:59] what's there, cuz your toes will tell
[32:01] you, your big toe especially will tell
[32:03] you, say for example, if you're going on
[32:06] an incline, the big toe has little nerve
[32:08] endings called proprioceptors, that as
[32:10] they get pulled up and back, it sends a
[32:13] message to the brain, "Hey, you're going
[32:14] uphill."
[32:15] >> Oh.
[32:16] >> And and vice versa, if you're like on a
[32:17] on a ledge or cliff, and your big toe is
[32:19] able to go down, it says, "Heads up. You
[32:21] don't want to move any further because
[32:23] there's a ledge here."
[32:24] >> here, yeah.
[32:25] >> Correct. And so then that's what
[32:27] happens.
[32:28] But unfortunately, what has happened is
[32:30] for particularly for elderly people, and
[32:32] and the other thing that I've noticed
[32:33] and
[32:35] for a long, long time, I used to brag at
[32:37] my clinics that we took care of young
[32:39] people. We don't take care of old folks.
[32:41] But ever since I guess I started, you
[32:43] know, getting my gray hair and and
[32:46] becoming one of the and I like to say
[32:48] this cuz we are all in there. We are in
[32:50] the freshman class of the senior
[32:52] citizens.
[32:52] >> Oh, there you go. Yeah. All right.
[32:55] >> So, ever since I became a freshman in
[32:57] that category,
[32:59] you know, I have taken care of a lot of
[33:01] people and I'm a little bit more
[33:03] empathetic and conscientious of how, you
[33:06] know, things can deteriorate and how
[33:08] we're more vulnerable sometimes.
[33:12] Again, to give you an example, our last
[33:14] trip that we took together to go
[33:15] mountain biking, I've taken some spills
[33:17] on bikes before. I've taken some spills
[33:19] on, you know, snowboarding,
[33:21] you know, trips and whatnot. But this
[33:23] last trip really freaking caused a lot
[33:25] of damage. Had a bunch of fractures and
[33:27] thank God everything is okay. But um
[33:30] the idea is that yes, older people are
[33:34] more careful because usually they've
[33:36] fallen and so they want to look down.
[33:39] But I tell people all the time, wherever
[33:41] you look, that's where you go. So, you
[33:42] want to look up. You want to look
[33:44] straight ahead. Wherever you look,
[33:46] that's where you go. And so, that's key
[33:48] and particularly for older people, a
[33:50] last comment that I want to say is this,
[33:53] that some people say, "Oh, no, Grandpa,
[33:57] just stay there. Let me get that for
[33:59] you." Or "Grammy,
[34:01] don't don't lift that, whatever."
[34:03] >> What are you looking at? Are you looking
[34:04] at the granny?
[34:06] >> It's just the stilettos, huh?
[34:07] >> It was. It was the high-heeled thing.
[34:09] >> The high-heeled, right?
[34:10] >> I'm not looking at you for any reason,
[34:11] but but the idea is you're doing your
[34:14] grandma or your grandpa or your very
[34:18] burly, manly, you know, senior citizen,
[34:20] uncle, whatever,
[34:22] you're doing them a disservice when you
[34:24] tell them, "Oh, no, let me get that for
[34:26] you. Oh, don't move. Oh, just sit down.
[34:27] I'll get it for you." On the other hand,
[34:29] you should be saying things like,
[34:31] "Grandma, let's go outside. Let's go for
[34:33] a walk. Grandpa, take a Grandpa, take
[34:35] off your shoes and let's walk in the
[34:36] grass.
[34:38] Here, let's do this together. Can we
[34:40] lift this up together?" And believe it
[34:42] or not, yes, some people will criticize
[34:45] you and say "Oh, you know, you could
[34:46] have picked that up yourself. Why did
[34:47] you make your grandpa do anything?" But
[34:49] you are doing your grandpa a great
[34:51] service. You're making him stronger.
[34:52] You're making him feel better. You're
[34:54] making him feel independent. I'll see if
[34:56] I can say this quickly. They actually
[34:58] did a study on people that were ages 75
[35:01] to 85 and they put them in a like a week
[35:03] retreat where the whole environment was
[35:06] like 50s and 60s
[35:09] decorations, 50s and 60s cars. On the
[35:12] TV, all they could access was black and
[35:14] white channels with 50s programming.
[35:17] >> Mhm.
[35:17] >> They were obligated to have
[35:19] conversations in the present tense like
[35:21] as if they were in the 1950s or 60s. And
[35:24] so like let's say it was three of us and
[35:26] >> Yeah.
[35:26] >> well, some of us were not around in the
[35:28] 1950s, but but the point is uh let's say
[35:32] >> Which one of us were?
[35:33] That's what I want to know.
[35:35] >> So let's say for us, they would have
[35:37] done that and they would have said "We
[35:38] can only have conversations like oh
[35:39] yeah, you know, so I I work at the mine
[35:42] and hey, I work at the you know, car
[35:44] factory, whatever." So after a week of
[35:47] these conversations and seeing all
[35:49] these, you know, things from when they
[35:51] were young
[35:52] these gentlemen and ladies were having
[35:55] improved memory, improved vision, even
[35:58] their hearing was improving. And what
[36:00] that proved is that our environment and
[36:05] the things that we say to ourselves and
[36:06] the things that people say to us like
[36:08] "Oh, no Ron, you don't need to lift
[36:09] that. Let me get that for you." So
[36:11] subconsciously,
[36:12] Ron thinks
[36:13] >> I can't.
[36:14] >> I can't.
[36:14] >> Yeah.
[36:15] >> I'm an old man and oh here, let me let
[36:17] me read that for you. I'll read that for
[36:19] you. You
[36:19] don't have to get your glasses. So you
[36:21] think oh,
[36:22] I'm dependent. You know, it's either
[36:24] glasses or somebody reads for me. So
[36:26] that takes a definite toll on your body
[36:29] and that's why I want to make sure that
[36:31] we say that, hey look, let's stay
[36:32] active, get our parents and grandparents
[36:34] to stay active because movement is life
[36:37] and the quality of your life is directly
[36:39] related to how you move.
[36:40] >> That's right. That's right. So it helps
[36:42] keep your mind sharp also.
[36:43] >> Absolutely. Absolutely. Your emotions
[36:45] too.
[36:46] One of my favorite clients lately came
[36:48] in because he said, hey, you know what?
[36:50] I saw that you said something like if
[36:52] you've been grumpier lately, it might be
[36:54] in your hips. And as I tried to move, I
[36:56] noticed my hips are really tight. And
[36:58] night and day difference. He says his
[37:00] wife and his kids are so happy because
[37:03] again, your hips affect your mood. It's
[37:05] crazy how that works, but your emotions,
[37:08] your energy, your vitality, your memory,
[37:10] like I said, a stiff spine
[37:13] makes for a weak and tired mind.
[37:15] >> Mhm. Really, I mean
[37:17] any part of your body that's not feeling
[37:19] well, whether it's
[37:20] muscles, whether it's ligaments, whether
[37:24] you know, whether it's just
[37:26] what I call your innards. You know, your
[37:28] you know, your your stomach, all that.
[37:30] If you're not feeling well, that affects
[37:33] you know, your mind.
[37:34] >> Absolutely. Yeah, and think of a person
[37:37] who's depressed and you picture him,
[37:39] they're usually shoulders down, head
[37:41] forward, face droopy. Think of a person
[37:44] that's, you know, young, you know, and
[37:47] vital and sexy and happy. They're
[37:50] usually shoulders
[37:50] >> about us.
[37:52] I don't know if he's not looking at me
[37:53] at all.
[37:54] >> You know, you know, shoulders back, big
[37:57] smile, happy. And and and really that's
[37:59] what it is too. That's one of my biggest
[38:02] I think
[38:04] methods of convincing
[38:07] women to continue their sessions cuz
[38:09] they're like, yeah, the pain is gone,
[38:10] but I'll just come back when it hurts.
[38:12] And we don't recommend that. You want to
[38:14] prevent the pain,
[38:15] but I tell them I ask them, what have
[38:17] people told you about your posture
[38:19] lately? Oh well, they say I look
[38:20] younger. I'm like, there you go. Let's
[38:23] keep it that way. So then they keep
[38:24] their appointments.
[38:25] >> Sure, definitely.
[38:27] It's like chiropractic also, you know,
[38:28] you you go there and I mean, sometimes
[38:31] they call it a tune-up, you know, you
[38:32] just do your your monthly or your
[38:34] bi-weekly tune-up, you know, to keep you
[38:37] where you want to be, you know, and it's
[38:38] the same with stretching.
[38:39] >> Absolutely. Yeah, it's a great
[38:41] compliment. I and I love that you
[38:42] mentioned chiropractic. I know you're a
[38:43] very, very consistent client or patient
[38:46] of chiropractic. And what it is is it's
[38:50] a a way of kind of resetting your body.
[38:53] >> Right.
[38:54] >> And yes, chiropractic goes more along
[38:56] the lines of like you need to have a
[38:58] diagnosis, you need to have a specific
[39:01] movement. With us and with stretching,
[39:03] it's more general. It's more broad, you
[39:05] know, you don't have to have a diagnosis
[39:07] to start taking care of your body. You
[39:09] don't have to wait till there's a
[39:11] significant or serious problem
[39:13] >> Yeah.
[39:14] >> to start addressing it. Again, the way
[39:16] you move is the way you feel and we help
[39:18] people move better. We don't want to
[39:20] take anything out or put anything in. We
[39:22] just want to work with whatever you got
[39:24] and make sure that it's working better.
[39:26] And and I love it because
[39:28] unlike say certain professions or
[39:30] certain specialties,
[39:33] let's say you wanted to go to an
[39:35] orthopedic surgeon right now.
[39:37] Number one, they wouldn't take you.
[39:38] You're perfectly healthy, you're doing
[39:40] great, there's no need. You'd be wasting
[39:42] his time and your money.
[39:43] >> Mhm.
[39:43] >> Um
[39:44] and um
[39:46] and on the contrary, no matter where
[39:49] you're at, even if you're feeling great
[39:50] and like a champ, you could always come
[39:52] in, get a posture assessment, see what's
[39:55] going on and even if it's just to relax,
[39:56] we could help, you know, so that you're
[39:58] feeling
[39:59] better, help the circulation because one
[40:02] of the things that happens, especially
[40:04] again, and I'm not trying to speak ill
[40:05] of any orthopedic surgeon or anything,
[40:07] you know, Dr. Klein, I have a lot of
[40:09] respect for you.
[40:11] But
[40:12] but the idea is this
[40:14] that when
[40:16] you know, you're
[40:18] feeling great and going to see a stretch
[40:21] therapist, um
[40:23] there's a hands-on approach. We
[40:25] literally we we put our hands on you in
[40:28] a respectful, professional way. And um
[40:31] again, you go to an orthopedic surgeon
[40:34] and yes, I know that there's exceptions
[40:36] and some doctors always do, but even
[40:38] some medical doctors, you go to a
[40:39] medical doctor visit and they say,
[40:41] "Yeah, we saw your results. This is what
[40:42] you need. Here's a prescription. Come
[40:44] back in 2 weeks." And that's it. Never
[40:46] once do they put their hands on you.
[40:48] Yeah. And what happens is this, and
[40:50] again, these are things that sometimes
[40:51] people forget about. They don't realize.
[40:53] We are human beings. We are emotional
[40:57] beings. If somebody puts a hand on your
[40:59] shoulder, if somebody, you know, shakes
[41:01] your hand, um it makes a huge
[41:03] difference.
[41:05] Uh skeletal system, a muscular system
[41:08] will not ever be as healed or as
[41:12] recovered without the nervous system
[41:15] first being relaxed. And we always do
[41:17] that. We always down-regulate the
[41:19] nervous system. We always tell people,
[41:21] "Look, we're going to, you know, have
[41:23] our hands on you. It's going to feel
[41:24] comfortable. It's going to feel
[41:25] relaxing. Yes, sometimes, you know,
[41:27] you're going to feel the stretch where
[41:28] it's right on the verge of
[41:31] pain or discomfort, but never past that,
[41:34] you know, boundary. Right. And so,
[41:36] that's the difference that when you come
[41:37] with us, you know, it's always hands-on.
[41:39] It's not just looking at test results
[41:41] and oh, we did we saw your posture
[41:42] pictures. You have a forward head
[41:44] posture and your left shoulder is up.
[41:46] You know, so, we're going to do some
[41:47] stretches or go and do these exercises
[41:49] at home.
[41:50] You know, and again, I have respect for
[41:52] all professions, you know. There are
[41:54] some great people that just give you the
[41:56] exercises, you take them, and that works
[41:58] for you. And if that's what's best for
[42:00] you, hey, have at it, you know,
[42:02] congratulations. There are some people
[42:04] that don't even tell you to do
[42:05] exercises. They just tell you to take
[42:07] some pills and that makes the pain go
[42:10] away or makes your mood kind of come up.
[42:13] Hey, if that's what works for you,
[42:15] again, I respect everybody's opinions
[42:18] even if they're wrong.
[42:20] >> No, I agree with you. I agree with you.
[42:22] I mean, it's it's a band-aid, you know?
[42:25] And you know, when you're taking And
[42:26] sometimes you have to take pain
[42:27] medicine, you know, if you have a cute
[42:29] injury, you know, a car accident or a
[42:32] bike accident or something, and you need
[42:35] to take that that short-term pain
[42:37] medication,
[42:39] basically what you're doing is you are
[42:41] blocking those pain receptors
[42:43] telling your brain, "Hey, this There's
[42:45] something wrong here." You know, there's
[42:47] something that's not right and and I'm
[42:49] feeling pain, but it's not helping it to
[42:51] heal.
[42:52] >> On the other hand, and I love that you
[42:54] said that and and again, I'm the prime
[42:55] example. When I had that biking
[42:57] accident, had some fractures, I needed
[42:59] that. There was There was no way that I
[43:00] could survive without it. Even breathing
[43:02] was painful. So, again, that was for a
[43:04] short very very short-term. And in
[43:07] addition to that, and I'm very very
[43:08] lucky. I got to give a little bit of
[43:10] love to Mr. Jim Toomey.
[43:13] That gentleman was one of the key
[43:14] providers, Dr. Sal Vankatishnan,
[43:17] Dr. Ornelas.
[43:19] I I have great friends. And so,
[43:21] literally, the days after my biking
[43:24] accident, there was never a single day
[43:26] for the first 10 days where I was not
[43:28] being
[43:29] attended to by a physician, a therapist,
[43:32] you know, you know, a chiropractor. So,
[43:35] again, I was able to recover super
[43:37] quickly. I'm very fortunate. But here's
[43:39] the deal. You mentioned Well, when you
[43:41] take pain pills, that's not helping you
[43:43] heal.
[43:44] On the other hand, what it does is this,
[43:47] particularly when you take certain
[43:48] anti-inflammatories.
[43:51] If you take anti-inflammatories of a
[43:53] certain type, yes, they take away the
[43:56] inflammation. Let's say you have all
[43:58] these fibers in a soft tissue, and when
[44:01] you take anti-inflammatories, yes, they
[44:03] get the inflammation goes away, but you
[44:05] also lose some of the fibers. So, now
[44:07] that what used to be this thick with all
[44:10] those fibers becomes really thin. And
[44:12] that's why That's why they tell you,
[44:14] "Oh, we gave you this injection, but you
[44:17] can only get it one more time or you
[44:19] can't get it again."
[44:21] Um
[44:21] And lastly, they help you gain weight,
[44:24] which also makes it harder on your
[44:25] joints. So, imagine your joint is
[44:27] getting weaker, you're gaining weight,
[44:29] it's you know, it's not helping you
[44:32] heal. And with other pain, you know,
[44:34] pain uh medications, uh they're like
[44:37] COX-2 inhibitors. They are certain
[44:39] enzymes that help you heal. So, yes, you
[44:42] don't feel the pain, but you're also
[44:44] inhibiting the enzymes that repair the
[44:46] damage.
[44:47] >> Right, right. That blood flow is key to
[44:49] uh to healing. And when you when you are
[44:52] inflamed, you have more blood flow
[44:54] there.
[44:55] >> That's right. That's right.
[44:56] >> of your your healing process.
[44:57] >> you take an anti-inflammatory,
[45:00] you're not healing. You can have You can
[45:02] have
[45:03] inflammation without healing, but you
[45:07] can never ever have
[45:09] healing without inflammation.
[45:11] Yeah.
[45:12] So, I mean, you know, life is movement.
[45:14] The body heals with movement and and I
[45:16] love what we do. I love, you know, the
[45:18] clients that we take care of. And I
[45:20] mentioned you heard this. We missed you
[45:21] on on Tuesday. Where were you?
[45:25] Okay, don't tell me. Don't tell me.
[45:27] But uh But on Tuesday, I mentioned that
[45:29] one of the biggest um
[45:31] approaches that we're taking right now
[45:32] is that I don't want to sell just uh a
[45:35] product or a service. I want to sell an
[45:37] image. If you come to Muevete Flex, if
[45:40] you're a client of Dr. Bernard's, you're
[45:42] the person that says, "Yeah, let's go."
[45:44] You know, it's not a matter of like,
[45:45] "Oh, do you want to go for a hike?" No,
[45:47] you guys go ahead. You're not the you
[45:49] guys go ahead type. You're like, "Yeah,
[45:51] heck yeah, let's go." I'll give you a
[45:52] quick example. And I'm going to put you
[45:53] on the spot. Next time you have a trip
[45:56] to go biking, uh-huh, even if Will Peña
[45:59] is not going to get on a bike, but he's
[46:00] going to be out there with us hiking a
[46:02] little bit, hanging out with us. I love
[46:04] that, you know? Instead of like, "No, I
[46:06] don't want to go." or "No, no, you guys,
[46:08] you know, stay I'll stay back."
[46:09] >> What if I just don't like you guys?
[46:14] >> Now we know.
[46:16] >> Like Dave Chappelle when he was talking
[46:17] about one of these guys in the industry
[46:21] that was in trouble for bad things and
[46:24] and whatnot. He's like, "Hey, and
[46:24] everybody all these celebrities were
[46:26] saying that they got invited they got
[46:27] invited." And I realized I never got
[46:29] invited. I just realized I'm freaking
[46:32] ugly.
[46:35] But of course not. You better like us.
[46:39] >> No, but you know, mobility is
[46:41] everything. And as you get older, when
[46:43] you lose your mobility, you know, your
[46:46] your um
[46:48] your life just isn't, you know, the the
[46:50] um I'm looking for I'm looking for the
[46:52] word, but
[46:53] >> The freedom.
[46:54] >> The freedom, yeah.
[46:55] >> to do whatever you want to do.
[46:56] >> Right. Right. Yeah.
[46:57] >> and that's the image that we portray. If
[46:59] you want to be that person that, you
[47:01] know, is free to move, independent, you
[47:04] don't have to have somebody help you get
[47:06] on the toilet or you don't have to have
[47:07] somebody help you get dressed, then you
[47:09] come to us. That's the people that we
[47:11] take care of. And and the idea that
[47:14] getting older is not synonymous, it
[47:16] doesn't have to mean getting, you know,
[47:19] you know, old and, you know, grumpy and
[47:22] and and stiff and not be able to move.
[47:24] That's not true at all.
[47:25] >> Right.
[47:25] >> I tell people our oldest client is 98.
[47:29] Our youngest
[47:30] is 0. 4. 4.
[47:34] Something like that. Because we take
[47:36] care of people of all ages, all fitness
[47:39] levels, and that's the one difference
[47:41] compared to other stretch clinics that
[47:43] are very good in our town. We're blessed
[47:45] to have wonderful facilities.
[47:47] But what makes us, you know, different
[47:50] is that we
[47:51] cater our service to you. Even a session
[47:54] for Will is almost never going to be the
[47:56] same exact session
[47:58] >> Mhm.
[47:59] >> Sure.
[47:59] >> We take your body where it is now and we
[48:02] help you take it to where you want to
[48:04] have it tomorrow.
[48:04] >> Mhm.
[48:05] >> That's what we do.
[48:06] >> Right.
[48:07] >> Yeah.
[48:07] >> Yep.
[48:07] >> Yeah, I can attest to that because
[48:09] >> Yes, sir.
[48:10] >> cuz you know, every time I go in it's
[48:11] always a little bit different. You just
[48:13] you assess where I'm at at that point.
[48:15] >> Yeah, and in other places, you know,
[48:17] they have like a certain protocol.
[48:18] They're like, okay, now let turn around.
[48:20] Now let me pull here, let me pull there.
[48:22] Okay, you're all set. And then the next
[48:23] one, okay, turn around. Let me pull
[48:24] here, let me pull there. And again,
[48:26] >> turn key kind of thing.
[48:28] >> and that works and that's why they have,
[48:29] you know, huge facilities and that's why
[48:32] they have, you know, clinics in the best
[48:34] shopping towns because it works. And if
[48:37] again, if that works for somebody, have
[48:39] at it. You know, we love that you're
[48:41] taking care of yourself.
[48:42] >> Yeah.
[48:42] >> It The idea is not that everybody comes
[48:44] to me, you know, even if everybody
[48:46] wanted to come to me, I can't take care
[48:48] of everybody. But the idea is that
[48:50] people take care of themselves.
[48:51] >> Yeah.
[48:51] >> And there's going to be people that, you
[48:53] know, gravitate towards doesn't say, "I
[48:55] like that guy. He's kind of funny."
[48:57] There's going to be people say, "Oh my
[48:58] god, that guy talks too much. I don't
[48:59] want to be there."
[49:00] You know, and and they want and that's
[49:01] okay. I think that's perfect. As long as
[49:03] people are having better health, better
[49:05] movement, that makes me happy.
[49:07] >> Well, think about on the on the
[49:09] big, big picture, healthier people
[49:12] cost less.
[49:13] >> 100%.
[49:14] >> Yeah. We none of us like our health
[49:16] insurance. None of us like the cost of
[49:18] our health insurance.
[49:20] So, the healthier you can be going into
[49:22] our older years
[49:24] is less strain on the whole system.
[49:27] >> Absolutely, and it is such a it's such a
[49:30] slippery slope. And and I want people
[49:33] that are watching and listening right
[49:35] now to think about that.
[49:37] It's such a dangerous situation. Um
[49:41] probably shouldn't even talk too much
[49:42] about my dad, but my dad is very
[49:45] rambunctious. He's hard working and he
[49:46] does a bunch of stuff and he he always
[49:49] laughs at me and says, "Yeah, safety
[49:50] first. Safety first." And I'm like,
[49:52] "Come on, Dad, take care of yourself."
[49:53] Well, you know, he's climbing up on a
[49:55] roof and doing stuff, fell off a roof
[49:57] and fractured his foot.
[49:59] >> Ooh.
[49:59] >> And still, my dad is the guy that when
[50:02] they told him he had COVID, he said,
[50:04] "COVID my butt, you know, let me get out
[50:06] of here."
[50:07] And uh and the doctor told him, "We you
[50:09] have pre-diabetes." And he's had to
[50:12] switch primary care doctors because he
[50:14] told the primary care, "Do I have
[50:15] diabetes or not?
[50:17] What is this pre-diabetes? Are you
[50:18] pre-pregnant?
[50:20] There's no such thing." So so my dad,
[50:22] even with his, you know,
[50:24] you know, go get 'em, you know,
[50:27] type of attitude, he said, "Oh, he'll
[50:28] fast from this, you know, fracture." And
[50:31] he like had a comminuted fracture. It
[50:32] was like his calcaneus was in like
[50:35] eight or nine different pieces, yeah.
[50:37] But
[50:38] >> Wow.
[50:38] >> did not need surgery, did not need
[50:40] anything, he healed on his own.
[50:42] But what he's not realizing, and I told
[50:44] him, I said, "Dad, yeah, that's awesome,
[50:46] no surgery, thank God, and you're
[50:47] recovering, but um
[50:50] I I said, "You know, these setbacks, you
[50:52] know, they hold you back." And And what
[50:55] happens is where normally he would do a
[50:57] bunch of stuff and he'd be welding stuff
[50:59] and doing concrete at his house and you
[51:02] know, going to his other properties in
[51:03] Mexico that that he works on. And he's
[51:06] like, "Oh, I haven't been to Mexico in,
[51:08] you know, 3 weeks, you know, this damn
[51:10] foot." And
[51:10] >> Yeah.
[51:10] >> And I was like, "Try to lift things now,
[51:12] I got to take it easy." And I'm like,
[51:13] "That's what I told you, you got to take
[51:14] care of yourself." And so that's the
[51:15] key. It's a vicious cycle. You might
[51:18] think, like my dad, "Oh, I'll recover
[51:19] from this, you know, fast. Who cares if
[51:22] I'm, you know, hurt? No big deal." But
[51:25] what about the time between your injury
[51:27] and your recovery that you're you lost
[51:30] muscle mass, you know, because after 10
[51:33] days of inactivity, your muscles start
[51:35] wearing out.
[51:36] >> Hmm.
[51:37] >> Absolutely. Every 10 days of inactivity,
[51:39] muscles atrophy, they wear out. And so
[51:42] not only do muscles wear out, but your
[51:44] balance, you you gets affected, your
[51:46] coordination gets affected, you know,
[51:48] and and your mind, you know, because
[51:50] again, you know, you you're not doing
[51:51] the things that you love to do.
[51:53] >> Yeah.
[51:53] >> So, now you become a cranky person and
[51:56] people that used to invite you, "Hey,
[51:58] come hang out with us." They're like,
[51:59] "Oh, he might be cranky. Let's wait till
[52:01] he gets better."
[52:02] >> So.
[52:02] >> You can't get time back. So, make sure
[52:06] that you prevent injuries, make sure
[52:07] that you maintain your mobility, find
[52:09] somebody that you trust, somebody that
[52:11] you like, somebody that is effective at
[52:14] keeping you mobile, and you'll be
[52:15] healthier and you won't cost your
[52:17] family, uh society, health care, health
[52:20] insurance, uh because it's hard. It It's
[52:23] really really hard. Uh and even though
[52:25] my dad, thank god, has insurance and has
[52:27] he does well for himself, but even
[52:29] still, the complaints, you know, come up
[52:32] and he would say, "Well, yeah, we had to
[52:34] go do this and can you believe that the
[52:36] consultation cost this much? And that
[52:37] doctor only spent like 2 minutes with
[52:39] me. He didn't even touch me. He didn't
[52:40] even look at my foot."
[52:41] >> Yeah.
[52:41] >> I'm like, "Dad, well, you know, he
[52:42] looked at the studies and as long as
[52:44] you're good, you know, you're you're
[52:46] ready to go." Our physical therapist
[52:47] said, "Can you believe it? I was in
[52:48] physical therapy. They were making me
[52:50] move my foot up and down like this for
[52:51] 15 minutes. What is that
[52:54] And I'm like, "Dad, you know, you have
[52:55] to recover, you know, you can't just
[52:57] jump and, you know, start jogging on the
[52:59] trail after
[53:00] >> therapy is very important to just to do
[53:02] everything that they tell you to do.
[53:04] >> It It is. And the thing is,
[53:05] >> your mobility back.
[53:06] >> And what I'm trying to explain is that
[53:08] you have to go through all that stuff
[53:10] that seems unnecessary,
[53:11] >> Right.
[53:12] >> whereas if instead, if you take care of
[53:13] yourself, you know, keep yourself
[53:15] flexible, keep yourself well,
[53:17] practice safety when you're doing work
[53:19] on a ladder, on a roof. Dad,
[53:23] you know.
[53:23] >> All of us, yeah.
[53:24] >> Yeah, we have to we have to take care of
[53:26] ourselves.
[53:26] >> That's why I don't get on ladders
[53:27] anymore.
[53:28] >> That's good. You should Hey, remember I
[53:29] told you about that. You were trying to
[53:30] get on a ladder when you when you were
[53:32] doing the uh
[53:32] >> Oh, you're painting, weren't you?
[53:34] >> Yeah, yeah.
[53:36] When I took you that garlic, honey,
[53:39] >> Well, tell us tell us where you're
[53:40] located and how people can can get a an
[53:43] appointment set up.
[53:44] >> Absolutely, happy to help. So, our phone
[53:46] number is really easy. It's
[53:47] 520-377-BACK,
[53:50] 377-2225.
[53:53] And we're on 12th Avenue. So,
[53:57] if anybody's familiar with town, the
[53:58] south side where Pueblo High School is,
[54:00] where all the Sonoran hot dogs are,
[54:03] really close to Estrella Insurance.
[54:05] We're on the our major intersection
[54:07] that's nearest by is Ajo Way and 12th
[54:11] Avenue. 3225 South 12th Avenue. And we
[54:15] also have a website at mueveflex.com.
[54:17] That's m u e v e the word flex .com.
[54:22] mueveflex.com and people can book
[54:23] online.
[54:24] >> Awesome.
[54:24] >> All our schedule availability is on
[54:26] there and they can text us at that
[54:28] number and we'll be happy to help.
[54:31] >> Any specials going on right now?
[54:33] >> Right now, the main thing that we have,
[54:35] we started a family flex package where
[54:37] before if somebody bought like a bundle
[54:39] of sessions like you used to do,
[54:42] you those are for you only. But now we
[54:44] have a family flex package where like
[54:46] let's say if Ron and Janay and the boys
[54:49] wanted to come in, you know, you guys
[54:50] could use something like that. And it's
[54:52] it's a way lower rate,
[54:55] but but it's more convenient because
[54:57] it's way more visits and and everybody
[55:00] wins. And I I'm working on
[55:03] a little
[55:04] philosophy write-up right now and one of
[55:06] the things that they asked is well,
[55:09] some of the people that you train,
[55:11] how would they know if they just sell
[55:14] one visit or they should sell a bundle
[55:16] and when you know, when would it be okay
[55:19] to offer a bundle
[55:21] so that the client feel feels
[55:22] comfortable. And my answer was this,
[55:25] we had to make it clear that just like
[55:27] Picture Rocks, you know, heating and
[55:29] cooling, just like Estrella Insurance,
[55:32] Mueve Flex is a business too. So, of
[55:33] course we have to charge. There's
[55:35] there's a fee. We are going to try to
[55:37] sell you visits. Um however, this is the
[55:40] key.
[55:41] Number one, if somebody is doing so
[55:43] well, like let's say Will Peña's feeling
[55:45] great now and he's got no pain and he's
[55:47] like, "Yeah, I just come in, you know,
[55:49] every other month for a tune-up."
[55:51] Why in the hell would we sell you a 20
[55:53] visit package that expires in 6 months?
[55:55] >> Yeah.
[55:55] >> That would be unethical of us. So, we
[55:57] would never do that. Or let's say
[55:59] somebody that says, um well, yeah, I'm
[56:02] in a lot of pain and last time I came in
[56:04] and got a stretch, it felt good, but the
[56:06] next morning I woke up kind of in pain
[56:08] again. So, uh not enough pain for me to
[56:10] take a pill or go to the doctor, but
[56:12] just not comfortable. But, the stretch
[56:14] really helped. And uh why would we just
[56:16] tell you, yeah, keep paying us, you
[56:18] know, uh just per visit? Uh we we we're
[56:21] going to make it we're going to make it
[56:22] so that it's something that is
[56:24] beneficial to you. Never sell it just
[56:26] for the financial gain, but it's
[56:28] important to let people know, of course,
[56:29] we're going to make it so that if you
[56:31] have, like the gym, if we have a gym
[56:34] membership, you're more likely to go. If
[56:36] you have to be pulling out your wallet
[56:38] and paying at the gym every time, it
[56:39] it's that friction that makes it harder
[56:41] for you to go. So, of course, we are
[56:43] going to offer packages. We have the
[56:45] family flex. We have even for just
[56:48] people that are like, "Well, I'm not
[56:49] sure. I'm only in town for the weekend
[56:51] or or XYZ. I just need to get ready for
[56:53] the Tour de Tucson. Can you give me a a
[56:56] few sessions?" We have packages for as
[56:58] little as like three sessions that are,
[57:00] you know, you save yourself like, I
[57:01] don't know, 30, 40 bucks. But, um but
[57:04] the most important thing is that um
[57:06] number one, we want people to feel that
[57:09] when they're in our office, they're the
[57:10] most important people in the world to us
[57:12] at that moment. That's one of our core
[57:13] philosophies. And uh and we want to make
[57:15] sure that they always feel like they
[57:17] were catered to specific to their needs
[57:20] at that time. That's what we do.
[57:22] >> Perfect. Well, hey, thanks for coming in
[57:24] today. Always a pleasure.
[57:26] >> I love Southwest flavor and you guys are
[57:27] doing a great job. Keep up the good
[57:29] work. And uh
[57:31] and uh hit me up again when it's time to
[57:32] do another sponsorship. I'd love to, you
[57:34] know, contribute. And uh other than
[57:36] that, thanks a lot. We love you guys. Um
[57:39] Move Betta Flex is here to help. Move
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[57:43] >> There you go. We are going to take
[57:44] another sponsor break. We will be back
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[61:35] And now, back to our show.
[61:38] >> All right, we are back. We have another
[61:41] guest coming up and her name is Melanie
[61:43] Morgan and she is with Friends of Pima
[61:45] County Library.
[61:46] >> Yeah, thank you for having me this
[61:47] morning.
[61:47] >> Yeah, thank you for coming in. So, tell
[61:49] us a little bit about the organization
[61:51] that you're with.
[61:52] >> So, um I think the most important thing
[61:54] to note is that Friends of the Pima
[61:56] County Library supports the entire Pima
[61:58] County Library system. So, they have
[62:01] special programs that are not publicly
[62:03] funded that the funds that we provide
[62:06] support.
[62:07] >> Oh, okay. All right.
[62:08] >> Yeah, and we do so by selling used books
[62:11] and records,
[62:13] >> Okay.
[62:13] >> CDs, DVDs, and other materials. We have
[62:17] a once-monthly public sale and it's
[62:19] really fun to come to. You can get some
[62:21] really great deals at our
[62:23] >> once a month? I didn't know that. I
[62:24] didn't realize that.
[62:25] >> Yeah, well, in the summer we take a
[62:26] little bit of a break because um air
[62:28] conditioning is very expensive, but
[62:33] But we so we really try to conserve
[62:34] every dollar that we can so that we can
[62:36] provide as much funding as possible to
[62:38] the Pima County Public Library system.
[62:40] So, I do think it's really important to
[62:42] note that
[62:43] when a kid goes and enjoys story time
[62:47] and if you ask them what their favorite
[62:49] thing about story time is, they don't
[62:51] say a group of volunteers got together
[62:54] to sell books
[62:56] and donors got together to donate books
[62:58] to provide these funds so that we could
[63:01] have story time. They're not thinking
[63:02] about who funded story time.
[63:04] >> at all.
[63:04] >> Doesn't matter to them. Right. It did
[63:06] The parents don't even know in a in a
[63:08] lot of cases.
[63:09] >> You're completely behind the scenes.
[63:10] >> Yeah, yeah. Um but, you know, it's funny
[63:13] because
[63:14] so many people come together. We had
[63:17] volunteers donate just shy of 50,000
[63:21] hours last year, the equivalent of
[63:24] basically 24 full-time employees
[63:27] to do this work so that these really
[63:30] important programs can be funded.
[63:33] >> Wow.
[63:34] And I should know this, but how many
[63:36] libraries are there in Pima County?
[63:38] >> Um I believe it's 26 libraries in Pima
[63:41] County. I could be wrong, could be 27. I
[63:44] would have to check my stats, did not
[63:45] bring my laptop and open it, so
[63:48] >> That's fine.
[63:49] >> Um but, you know, it's all of Pima
[63:51] County, so we're talking all the way
[63:52] from Ajo
[63:53] and Green Valley
[63:55] Yeah, um it's basically the size of a
[63:57] New England state.
[63:58] >> Yeah. It is. Wow. So, do you have to
[64:01] travel to Ajo sometimes?
[64:02] >> Um no, I have not been out to the
[64:04] library there. We actually have our main
[64:06] warehouse um in Tucson.
[64:08] >> Mm, okay.
[64:09] >> And then, um we have and of course our
[64:11] main sales operation, but we do have
[64:14] sales operations in Green Valley. We
[64:16] have two sales operations in Green
[64:17] Valley, too. Um and they transfer used
[64:21] books back and forth between Tucson and
[64:24] Green Valley. And so, um we do have We
[64:27] try to have those sales operations
[64:28] available for every It's important to
[64:30] note that we don't run any programs at
[64:32] the library, we just fund them.
[64:34] >> You help fund them. Right. Okay. The
[64:37] library is very good at running their
[64:39] own programs.
[64:40] >> All right, very good.
[64:42] And the where
[64:45] the books that you guys sell, where do
[64:46] you get these books from? Is it just
[64:48] like books that the library is not going
[64:50] to carry anymore, or are they donations
[64:52] or
[64:52] >> Yeah, so it's actually both. Um so, the
[64:55] library, when they basically, for lack
[64:58] of a better term, decommission a book,
[65:01] they do generally give those books to us
[65:04] to sell to the public. Um but, also
[65:09] we have a huge donor base of just
[65:11] individuals that are coming to us to
[65:13] donate books.
[65:14] >> Mhm.
[65:14] >> And it's really important to note that
[65:16] people drive out of their way to our
[65:19] warehouse in Midtown to make sure that
[65:22] the books that they're donating go to
[65:25] support the library and that's just
[65:26] wonderful. Um we are open for donation
[65:29] between 9:00 and noon Monday through
[65:31] Saturday.
[65:32] >> Mhm.
[65:33] >> But this Saturday we're also having a
[65:36] book drive at the University of Arizona
[65:38] campus.
[65:39] >> Mhm.
[65:40] >> part of UA Cares um and United Way's
[65:43] Days of Caring
[65:45] and Eller Make a Difference Day and we
[65:47] will be out in front of Eller College of
[65:49] Management collecting books from the
[65:52] public. So if anybody wants to look at
[65:55] their bookcase. I know the weather's
[65:56] beautiful and you want to get outside,
[65:58] but if you want to look at your bookcase
[66:00] and think you know, I don't need this,
[66:03] you know, these few books anymore this
[66:05] box of books. That would be great.
[66:06] >> Yeah.
[66:07] >> It's really important to note that we
[66:09] sell used books. So please don't go to
[66:12] Barnes & Noble and buy a book to donate
[66:16] to us because we are going to sell that
[66:18] at a discount price. Please do support
[66:20] Barnes & Noble because they support us.
[66:23] But um
[66:25] pick out a book that you've already read
[66:27] and it's a used item. Look through your
[66:29] vinyl. Are there records that you don't
[66:31] listen to anymore because people have
[66:34] some amazing vinyl collections and
[66:35] there's some stuff in there that's just
[66:37] not serving them. And vinyls are really,
[66:40] really popular item at our sales.
[66:43] >> It has really made a comeback.
[66:45] >> It has and people are collecting DVDs
[66:48] and CDs again, too.
[66:49] >> Really? Wow.
[66:50] >> amazing. So those are also really
[66:51] popular. So if you got CDs collecting
[66:54] dust and you've gotten rid of your CD
[66:56] player, which a lot of people have or
[66:58] you sold your car and it doesn't take
[67:00] the new one doesn't take CDs, please
[67:02] think about donating those to us
[67:03] especially if they're still in really
[67:05] good condition.
[67:06] >> Oh, wow.
[67:06] >> We don't want to see those things going
[67:08] into the landfill. Being eco-friendly is
[67:10] a big part of the reason that we do
[67:13] this. Um and so and there's a market for
[67:16] those things. I mean, even if that CD
[67:18] only sells for a dollar,
[67:20] that dollar combines with everybody
[67:22] else's donation and it goes to support
[67:25] these library programs. So.
[67:27] >> for cassettes to come back.
[67:29] >> I'm so waiting for them.
[67:30] >> it's happening. People have come in
[67:33] requesting cassettes and they have come
[67:35] in requesting
[67:37] um
[67:38] videotapes.
[67:39] >> Oh, wow.
[67:40] >> VCR tapes. Yes, VHS tapes.
[67:43] Um so, yeah, we get those donated and
[67:46] and again, we don't want to see them go
[67:47] into the landfill, either. The one thing
[67:49] with tapes that makes it complicated
[67:51] though is I don't know if you remember
[67:53] back in the day, your tapes used to get
[67:56] eaten.
[67:56] >> Yeah.
[67:57] >> So, it's hard to guarantee that those
[68:00] tapes after all these years are going to
[68:02] be in good condition.
[68:03] >> Yeah. Well.
[68:05] >> But people come in looking for them.
[68:06] >> cuz yeah, you I mean,
[68:07] it could happen.
[68:08] >> Yeah, it could happen and you know, so
[68:12] um
[68:12] you know, we we do sell some other
[68:15] things too like sheet music,
[68:16] collectibles.
[68:18] People bring their collectible items to
[68:20] us and we're able to sell a lot of those
[68:22] as well. So, if you're thinking of
[68:24] donating it, it's not clothing or shoes,
[68:27] it might be something that we take. We
[68:29] even take Pyrex.
[68:30] >> Oh.
[68:30] >> There's a big market for that.
[68:32] >> Hm, okay.
[68:33] >> Yeah. So,
[68:34] there's a variety of directions that it
[68:37] could go when it enters the facility and
[68:40] what we do is we sort of assess it and
[68:42] make a determination about which
[68:44] direction should it be sold online to an
[68:46] international audience, should it be
[68:47] sold publicly in our store. We really
[68:50] only sell the books, the the vinyl, the
[68:53] DVDs and the CDs and sheet music in our
[68:56] store.
[68:57] But occasionally we have an oversized
[68:59] item that gets donated that we cannot
[69:02] ship. We So, we sold Last year, we sold
[69:05] a Victrola.
[69:07] >> Mhm.
[69:08] >> I didn't really even know what a
[69:10] Victrola was.
[69:11] >> No, can you tell us?
[69:12] >> Um so, it's like an old-timey record
[69:14] player that only plays records for
[69:17] Victrolas. And so, we had had a variety
[69:20] of Victrola records donated.
[69:22] >> Uh-huh.
[69:23] >> And so, we were able to bundle the
[69:25] Victrola with those. I think they were
[69:26] classical. Um and uh so, it's just a
[69:30] different way to play music.
[69:31] >> Yeah, I think for a collector, that
[69:33] would be really
[69:33] >> Yeah, that would be really cool. Yeah.
[69:35] >> So, somebody bought it for their mom.
[69:37] >> Yeah.
[69:38] >> And And it was a valuable item. So, but
[69:40] definitely could not be shipped off.
[69:42] >> No.
[69:43] >> Yeah, it was very large, very heavy oak
[69:46] Victrola.
[69:47] >> Oh, wow. Okay.
[69:48] >> like a
[69:50] >> Oh.
[69:51] >> Yeah. Okay.
[69:52] >> floor to
[69:52] >> Yeah, a big cabinet
[69:54] >> It was on wheels, so you could roll it.
[69:56] >> Okay.
[69:57] >> It wasn't Yeah, like you think of a
[69:58] record player
[69:59] >> Uh-huh.
[69:59] >> Back then, record players were massive.
[70:02] So, I guess something between a
[70:04] photograph and a current vinyl system.
[70:07] Whatever had happened in between them.
[70:10] Um
[70:10] So, yeah. But um yeah, so I I think the
[70:14] main reason I wanted to come on today
[70:16] was to talk to the public about
[70:18] donating.
[70:20] We
[70:22] need thousands of books
[70:25] to make this program happen.
[70:27] >> Okay.
[70:28] >> And so, um if they want to come out to
[70:30] Eller um this weekend on Saturday for UA
[70:33] Cares and donate to us, 8:00 to noon,
[70:36] um it would be wonderful
[70:40] again, if people would just take a look
[70:42] and see if there's anything that they
[70:43] would like to give. We're really excited
[70:45] about this drive. We're really excited
[70:46] that the University of Arizona has
[70:48] partnered with us to do this.
[70:49] >> Is this the first year?
[70:51] >> This is our first year. This is our
[70:52] first year that we're doing this, and we
[70:54] want to see if the public comes out.
[70:55] But, if you can't make it to that drive,
[70:57] you can always swing by our location,
[70:59] which is actually not that far from
[71:01] there on Country Club Road.
[71:02] >> Oh, okay.
[71:03] >> Um and donate to us between 9:00 and
[71:06] noon, Monday through Saturday.
[71:09] Um
[71:09] so, we have a wonderful customer base.
[71:12] If you've never been shopping at the
[71:13] store before, there are fantastic deals
[71:16] to be had on books and CDs, everything,
[71:19] so on and so forth.
[71:20] Um
[71:21] and you know, just look at our website,
[71:23] pimafriends.com, for the public sale.
[71:27] But, also keep us in mind for donations
[71:31] all month long.
[71:32] >> Sure.
[71:33] >> Yeah.
[71:34] >> Yeah, you know, um I'm on the board of
[71:35] directors for Southern Arizona Book
[71:37] Heroes.
[71:38] And um
[71:40] you know, we get donations and we we
[71:42] basically only take new books for this
[71:45] program. But, we get a lot of donations
[71:47] and we get used books, also. So, it'd be
[71:50] good to make that connection so that you
[71:52] know, if we actually end up donating
[71:53] those for
[71:55] >> Yes, please donate them to us. We want
[71:57] them. And this is
[71:59] This is also really important. If you
[72:01] have more than 10 boxes, we will do a
[72:03] pickup.
[72:05] So,
[72:07] >> we get you know, people you know, will
[72:09] get estates where they'll
[72:11] >> Oh, yeah.
[72:11] >> just give us all their books and you
[72:13] know, and
[72:14] So, yeah, well, definitely, you know,
[72:16] we'll exchange information and stuff so
[72:17] that we can I can get that to uh
[72:20] >> For sure, because we have some
[72:22] organizations that we go back and forth
[72:25] with, like Tucson Our Treasures for
[72:27] Teachers, those kinds of organizations.
[72:29] >> We work with Treasures for Teachers many
[72:31] times, yeah.
[72:32] >> Wonderful. So, we get a lot of items
[72:34] because when you're donating books, you
[72:36] might also want to donate, you know,
[72:38] pencils, file folders,
[72:41] extra paper, you know, all kinds of
[72:43] things that teachers need that we
[72:44] ultimately have at a limited use for in
[72:47] the office.
[72:48] >> Yeah.
[72:49] >> Um but, they'll they use that stuff in
[72:51] bulk.
[72:53] So,
[72:53] >> donated to them. anytime we can make a
[72:56] connection with another nonprofit who's
[72:58] getting things that we need and maybe we
[73:00] are getting something it sounds like you
[73:01] only get new books.
[73:02] >> Yeah, we new books, you know, we do you
[73:05] know, new crayons or not crayons but
[73:07] colored pencils and
[73:09] >> Mhm.
[73:10] >> you know, plushies, things like that.
[73:11] But everything's new that we
[73:13] >> Yeah. Yeah, we don't
[73:16] we don't really
[73:18] know if anything that's donated to us is
[73:20] ever new. And you know, this is really
[73:22] important, too. People can donate money.
[73:25] So, if you're thinking, "Oh, I want to
[73:26] donate to this drive
[73:28] and but I
[73:30] don't have any books that I want to give
[73:32] away right now." And they're thinking,
[73:33] "Let me go to the store and buy a book."
[73:35] It would be more appropriate for your
[73:37] organization to receive something like
[73:39] that.
[73:40] >> Right.
[73:40] >> But people, if they want to support
[73:42] Friends of the Library, they can they
[73:44] can donate money as well. We we love
[73:46] that. Yeah.
[73:47] >> Yeah. Well, you guys can use that money
[73:50] and really and
[73:53] get more value out of it,
[73:55] you know, with the buying power.
[73:56] >> Yeah, it just expands our program and
[73:59] it's really important. These volunteers,
[74:01] they love sorting the books and
[74:02] everything like that, but any cash
[74:04] donations that we receive just allow us
[74:06] to expand our program, allows us to
[74:08] improve our facilities to do this work
[74:11] and then, of course, allow us to donate
[74:13] more to the library.
[74:14] >> Right.
[74:15] >> So.
[74:16] >> Very cool. How long has the program been
[74:17] around?
[74:18] >> It was established originally in 1969.
[74:22] So, before I was actually born.
[74:24] >> Yeah.
[74:25] >> Not that I'm doing an advertisement for,
[74:28] you know, being born in the '70s, but
[74:32] >> I was one
[74:34] year one in '69.
[74:35] >> I wasn't born yet in '69.
[74:38] >> Um so, it's it's interesting to be
[74:41] running a program that's been around
[74:43] longer than than I have.
[74:46] Um but, you know, it's been well-run
[74:47] over the years. They became a 501c3
[74:50] nonprofit, I believe, in '73.
[74:53] >> Oh, wow. Okay.
[74:54] >> so, it's Yeah.
[74:56] >> has a long history.
[74:57] >> around in this in this town for more
[74:59] than 50 years. Originally, it was
[75:01] established as a scholarship program to
[75:03] fund
[75:05] >> Hm.
[75:05] >> for someone to go to school for library
[75:07] science.
[75:08] >> Oh.
[75:09] >> And then eventually, it morphed into
[75:11] supporting programs at the library
[75:13] because they need those
[75:15] >> Hm.
[75:15] >> funds. There's all kinds of programs it
[75:17] supports. It's not just story time,
[75:19] English as a second language programs,
[75:22] workforce development programs, uh, STEM
[75:25] programs, and art programs for kids. Um,
[75:29] there's a program called Ready, Set,
[75:31] Read that it funds for children, so on
[75:34] and so forth. And summer reading is a
[75:36] big one.
[75:36] >> Yeah.
[75:37] >> Over 2,000
[75:39] children finished the summer reading
[75:41] program in Pima County over the summer.
[75:44] So,
[75:45] >> Wow.
[75:45] >> that kids are reading, it's encouraging
[75:47] kids to read, and, you know, they're
[75:50] making use of the library.
[75:52] I remember one time my my own daughter
[75:54] wrote this essay about how,
[75:57] you know, other people's parents were
[75:59] taking them to the movies and this and
[76:00] that and the other, and I was always
[76:01] dragging her to the library to pick out
[76:03] books.
[76:04] I was like, "It's true."
[76:06] I was.
[76:07] >> I I as a youth, I spent a lot of time in
[76:10] the library, in the Pima County library,
[76:12] cuz I grew up here.
[76:13] >> You grew up here. Okay, yeah.
[76:15] >> So, I I read all the books.
[76:18] >> That's right. That's right, without even
[76:19] realizing it.
[76:20] >> it. Yeah.
[76:21] >> Yeah.
[76:22] >> Yeah. So, um, so that's really cool, and
[76:24] especially in the summer,
[76:26] >> Mhm.
[76:26] >> when it's hot, the library is a
[76:28] wonderful place to go to.
[76:29] >> go to. Yeah.
[76:32] But yeah, they they also have a lot of
[76:34] programs, you know, like you said,
[76:35] there's there's story time for the
[76:37] smaller kids and everything like that.
[76:39] >> Yeah, and you know, there's programs for
[76:41] teens, there's all kinds of fun stuff
[76:43] and they're always coming up with new
[76:44] things. I think we recently funded a
[76:46] program that had an escape room.
[76:48] >> Oh, wow.
[76:49] >> You know, so really staying relevant to
[76:51] what people are doing these days is a
[76:53] really great way. They they keep the
[76:55] programs really really fresh all the
[76:57] time and you know, they really look at
[77:00] the community's need and make sure that
[77:03] those are being met through these extra
[77:04] programs. Um,
[77:06] you know, I and I do think that people
[77:08] think of the library as fully publicly
[77:11] funded.
[77:12] >> Yeah.
[77:13] >> Yeah, absolutely.
[77:13] >> Um, you know, but they do so much extra
[77:16] and it's really a natural place because
[77:19] people are going there for information
[77:21] anyway. They're going there to access
[77:23] services. They're going there maybe to
[77:25] you know, use some free internet or you
[77:27] know, use a computer, obviously check
[77:29] out a free book. It's a natural
[77:31] progression into other services that
[77:34] would be helpful to them and the
[77:36] library's really great at staying
[77:39] relevant and making sure to think of
[77:40] everything.
[77:42] >> Yeah.
[77:42] >> So.
[77:43] >> And there's nothing like just holding a
[77:45] book in your hand, you know, not not the
[77:46] Kindle or whatever, but just holding a
[77:49] a book and turning the pages.
[77:51] >> Yes. You know.
[77:52] >> Yeah, I've never really been able to get
[77:54] into reading on a screen in the way that
[77:56] >> No, neither have I.
[77:57] >> Yeah, I don't care for it much, but the
[78:00] library does allow you to check out
[78:02] books for your Kindle.
[78:03] >> Yes, my wife does it all the time.
[78:04] >> Really?
[78:04] >> Yeah.
[78:04] >> All the time. That's where she gets
[78:06] >> Mhm.
[78:07] >> She gets her her a lot of her Kindle
[78:09] books are from the library.
[78:10] >> Mhm. Yep, and they let you check out
[78:11] audiobooks, too.
[78:12] >> And she yeah, and we know when we go on
[78:14] road trips, we go to the
[78:16] Now, we live in Sahuarita, so we go to
[78:17] the one We actually like going to the
[78:19] older one like the Green Valley one.
[78:21] >> Oh, the um, Joyner, I believe it's
[78:23] called.
[78:24] >> Yeah, I don't remember what it's called,
[78:25] but it's I we know it's it's the Green
[78:27] Valley Library that's Yeah, it's the one
[78:29] in Green Valley.
[78:31] >> one of our stores is actually in that
[78:32] library. Yeah.
[78:35] >> Okay,
[78:35] >> Yeah, we
[78:36] Yeah, we'll go there and we'll get our,
[78:38] you know, our audiobooks there for the
[78:39] road trips.
[78:40] >> Yeah.
[78:41] >> You know, so that's that's always pretty
[78:42] cool and um
[78:44] you know, I know my wife really enjoys
[78:46] the
[78:47] um at the new library out there in
[78:48] Sahuarita
[78:50] the um being able to get the books like
[78:53] in the lockers.
[78:54] >> Okay.
[78:55] >> so you can check it out and they'll put
[78:56] it in a locker for you.
[78:57] >> Yeah, you or, you know, check it out
[78:59] online.
[78:59] >> Yeah, yeah.
[79:00] >> You know, and they'll put it in the
[79:01] lockers for you when it's available. You
[79:02] know, and a lot of times the books that
[79:04] she wants aren't available, but they'll
[79:05] let her know when they are available.
[79:06] >> on a waiting list.
[79:07] >> Basically, yeah. So, it's pretty
[79:08] >> I use that program constantly because I
[79:11] never ever go to the library and just
[79:13] pick out a book. I do it for I did it
[79:15] for my daughter when she was young, but
[79:17] I go online. I look and see what they
[79:19] have. I order it. It comes to the
[79:21] library within a few days usually. And
[79:24] then I'm able to go check it out. So,
[79:26] yeah, I'm a big library fan. I I I'm
[79:29] excited that I was invited to run this
[79:31] organization because it's it's just a an
[79:34] organization I that I
[79:37] I love everything that we do and I love
[79:39] our associations and I love how it's
[79:41] supportive the library is of us. The um
[79:44] head librarian for the Pima County
[79:45] Library is actually on our board.
[79:47] >> Oh, nice.
[79:47] >> Okay.
[79:49] >> Yeah, so it's a really really amazing
[79:51] partnership.
[79:51] >> Yeah. Yeah.
[79:53] Our last show on Tuesday, we were
[79:55] talking we're talking about scary
[79:56] movies, but we were talking about kind
[79:58] of a little bit of it of of the books
[80:00] versus the movies, you know, and just
[80:03] how books can, you know, let your
[80:05] imagination run wild, you know. And it's
[80:08] just a it's just a cool thing and just
[80:10] growing up, you know, that way of
[80:11] reading the books and
[80:13] >> Yeah.
[80:13] >> kind of, you know, having those
[80:14] adventures in your mind.
[80:16] >> Yeah, yeah, I I really So, if there's a
[80:19] book, I prefer to read it and then
[80:22] sometimes I'll watch the movie
[80:23] afterwards and
[80:25] >> Movies are always so disappointing.
[80:26] >> yeah.
[80:27] >> Yeah, because it's not what you imagine.
[80:29] >> Yeah.
[80:29] >> And um we actually have a bumper
[80:31] sticker. We have an old bumper sticker.
[80:33] We should reprint it with our new logo
[80:35] on there that says never judge a book by
[80:38] its movie.
[80:38] >> Yes.
[80:41] I remember one of the first times I ever
[80:42] did that it was I was reading a John
[80:44] Grisham book.
[80:44] >> Mhm.
[80:45] >> And then I read the book and then the
[80:48] movie came out. I remember I don't
[80:49] remember exactly which one it was.
[80:51] And I was waiting for a specific scene
[80:53] that was in the book.
[80:55] >> It wasn't there.
[80:55] >> And it wasn't in the movie. I was so
[80:57] disappointed.
[80:58] >> No.
[80:59] >> So that was the the first time I really
[81:01] like you know what? The books are so
[81:03] much better.
[81:03] >> Yeah.
[81:04] >> Yeah and it just didn't happen on there
[81:06] and
[81:06] >> Just so much more detail in the books.
[81:08] Yeah.
[81:09] >> Plus you know that's your you know
[81:11] you're reading and then I don't know how
[81:13] you guys are but when I'm reading a book
[81:15] like that and I'll end up like just
[81:17] stopping and I'll just start thinking
[81:19] about like watching it in my head.
[81:20] >> Yeah.
[81:21] >> Exactly. What does that character look
[81:23] like and what does their voice sound
[81:25] like?
[81:26] >> funny because like my wife and I will
[81:27] will read the same books.
[81:28] >> Uh-huh.
[81:29] >> You know and then we'll discuss it and
[81:30] like and then we'll say well who do you
[81:32] who do you picture playing that part?
[81:34] Who do you picture? And you know we're
[81:36] always like the ethnicity and different
[81:39] you know
[81:39] >> Because a lot of time like you'll
[81:41] picture a specific Hollywood actor or
[81:44] you know to play it it's in your it's in
[81:47] your
[81:48] it's in your mind in the book.
[81:50] And yeah it's fun because then when
[81:53] someone plays them that you're like oh.
[81:55] >> Yeah.
[81:56] >> I'm not going to see that.
[81:59] >> But isn't it just funny how two people
[82:00] could read the same book and have just a
[82:02] different view of
[82:04] who who who they're picturing while
[82:06] they're while they're reading it.
[82:08] >> Yeah.
[82:08] >> Yeah and it's interesting to me too. One
[82:11] of the things that I've experienced a
[82:12] little bit of
[82:14] as as a parent is
[82:16] my daughter watched one of The Hunger
[82:18] Games movies or she might have watched
[82:20] the entire series of them and I'm not
[82:22] really sure when she was younger and
[82:24] then
[82:25] she read the books after Because she
[82:28] enjoyed the movies so much that she
[82:30] wanted to read the books. And so it's
[82:33] interesting to be able to talk to her
[82:35] about that because I haven't read The
[82:37] Hunger Games. I've watched maybe one of
[82:38] the movies. You know, it's not really my
[82:39] demographic.
[82:41] Um
[82:42] and I asked her who her favorite
[82:44] character was in in the first book and
[82:46] she was like Rue. I was like, "Okay,
[82:49] that's an interesting choice." I cuz she
[82:51] was kind of a minor character in the
[82:53] movie.
[82:55] You know, so they must have gone more
[82:56] into it but she's read all of the books
[82:58] because of that and you know, gets in
[83:00] gets really into that you know, type of
[83:03] dystopian
[83:04] YA kind of book and so it's really
[83:07] interesting to me to to see what she
[83:09] reads more than it's you know, people
[83:11] ask me what I read and I'm like, I read
[83:12] all over the place.
[83:14] >> So do I.
[83:15] >> Yeah, so
[83:16] >> you want to take your brain in a
[83:17] different direction, you know?
[83:19] >> Yeah, or and sometimes you think you're
[83:20] really going to like something. I want
[83:22] to I really wanted to get into sci-fi as
[83:26] a genre and I think I picked up the
[83:27] wrong thing and read it. And I was like,
[83:30] "I'm not reading this again."
[83:34] But I but you know, I've talked to a few
[83:35] people about it and they're like, "Try
[83:36] this book instead." And so I have a list
[83:38] now that I'm going to try it.
[83:42] >> Yeah, you know, my daughter she's uh
[83:45] she works out at the U of V but you
[83:47] know,
[83:48] what got her reading was Harry Potter.
[83:51] >> Okay.
[83:51] >> You know, that's when she started that
[83:54] the Harry Potter series and she was
[83:57] about 7 8 years old at the time and
[84:00] I think that really that those that
[84:02] series just boosted her into just
[84:05] reading and
[84:06] >> You get excited about reading.
[84:09] >> early 30s now and
[84:11] and you know, she's still still reading
[84:13] reading reading. I can remember we'd be
[84:15] taking road trips and she'd be in the
[84:16] back of the truck and we'd have to get
[84:18] her a flashlight so that she could read
[84:20] at night so she could read her
[84:21] >> Yeah.
[84:22] >> her book. amazing kids have this amazing
[84:24] ability not to get car sick when reading
[84:26] in the car.
[84:26] >> Yeah. Oh, I know.
[84:28] Yeah, I can't
[84:30] Yeah.
[84:30] >> I can't even look at my phone.
[84:31] >> Yeah.
[84:32] I have to have my phone up, you know.
[84:34] >> Yeah. Yeah, I see a lot of people do
[84:36] that.
[84:36] >> gets in the way the steering wheel.
[84:38] >> Yeah.
[84:40] You're like, I was going to look at the
[84:41] watch the road, but the phone is in the
[84:44] way. So, now it's like you got to bat it
[84:46] down.
[84:48] >> Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely. And I you
[84:50] know, I love the way that you know, it
[84:51] gets passed down. You know, cuz my
[84:53] wife's a big reader and my daughter's a
[84:54] big reader. You know, she has a
[84:56] 6-year-old um boy and he's they've read
[85:00] to him since he was
[85:03] still in her stomach. They They started
[85:05] reading to him and still every day
[85:07] before every night before he goes to
[85:08] bed, he's they have to read him three
[85:10] books.
[85:11] >> Oh.
[85:12] >> You know, three kids books yeah, every
[85:14] night and he cannot go to sleep until
[85:15] he's read them and he picks out which
[85:16] ones he wants and he loves going to the
[85:19] library.
[85:20] >> That's a lot of reading at night. I I
[85:22] feel like we limited it to one, but we
[85:24] read we read during the day, too.
[85:26] >> Yeah.
[85:27] >> Yeah. One of the first things my
[85:28] daughter did when she started to crawl
[85:30] was she crawled over to her bookcase and
[85:31] picked up a book and I was like, "Oh my
[85:33] god,
[85:34] I'm doing a good job."
[85:35] >> Right.
[85:36] But, isn't it amazing how how it it
[85:38] improves their vocabulary at such a
[85:40] young age?
[85:40] >> Yeah. Yeah.
[85:41] >> Well, you talk to teachers and I mean,
[85:43] if if a kid is good at reading,
[85:46] everything else is easier. Yeah.
[85:48] But, if they have a lot of problems
[85:49] reading, you know, all the other
[85:51] subjects are harder, yeah.
[85:53] >> Yeah, because they can't they can't do
[85:54] the reading.
[85:55] >> comprehend, you know, what they're
[85:56] what's on paper, you know.
[85:57] >> I have some dyslexia in my family and
[85:59] that's, you know, that is a big
[86:01] challenge for some people who are really
[86:03] smart people. They just can't
[86:05] >> Yeah.
[86:06] >> get through the material fast enough.
[86:08] And and I would describe myself as a
[86:10] slower reader, you know. I mean, I read
[86:12] a lot and I really enjoy it, but I don't
[86:15] I'm not the kind of person who can read
[86:17] a 300-page book in a day.
[86:19] >> Oh.
[86:20] >> You know. And so, you know, I've always
[86:23] been kind of jealous of people who can.
[86:25] >> Well, that's also That's also a time
[86:26] thing, too. You
[86:27] >> Yeah. I know. There's that.
[86:29] >> It's how fast you can read, I guess.
[86:30] >> Yeah.
[86:31] >> But, yeah.
[86:32] >> Yeah, but definitely like being in the
[86:33] business, people think I have read every
[86:35] book.
[86:38] >> That's all you do.
[86:39] >> Yes.
[86:40] >> That's all you do is read books.
[86:40] >> It would be It would be cool if that was
[86:42] what I did.
[86:44] But, um I used to run Festival of Books,
[86:46] as well. And
[86:48] um people definitely thought that I had
[86:50] read
[86:50] >> every book.
[86:51] >> every book that was there. And you know,
[86:53] we're talking 360 authors. Just the
[86:57] presenting authors. There were
[86:58] independent authors, as well. Just the
[87:00] presenting authors, 360 of them with
[87:02] multiple books. And so, people really
[87:04] believed that I had read
[87:06] But, there was a whole 45-person
[87:08] committee who programmed those authors.
[87:10] And they did a wonderful job. And so,
[87:12] you know,
[87:13] every once in a while, I got to take
[87:15] credit for something that I didn't
[87:16] actually do. And But, um but they they
[87:19] read all those books. So,
[87:22] >> that was fantastic.
[87:23] >> Awesome. So, can you tell us the address
[87:26] of
[87:27] >> Oh, yeah.
[87:28] So, So, this weekend, um Eller College
[87:30] of Management. It is between It's just
[87:33] It's on the northern side of the
[87:34] university, actually north of Speedway.
[87:37] Um it's between Mountain and Park.
[87:40] >> Okay.
[87:41] >> So, a little bit of a description of
[87:42] where it is. It's I believe it's 111
[87:45] East Helen Street.
[87:46] >> Oh, okay.
[87:47] >> Um so, Helen is basically one street
[87:50] north of Speedway, between Mountain and
[87:51] Park. And um there's If anyone Most
[87:54] people, I think, have actually seen
[87:56] Eller before. There's those big giant
[87:58] steps leading up to the building itself.
[88:01] We're going to be parked out front. And
[88:03] there's like a little parking space. So,
[88:04] people can just drive up and drop.
[88:06] >> Oh, cool.
[88:07] >> Um we're going to have volunteers there
[88:08] to pick up the books for them. And
[88:10] again, it's between 8:00 a.m. noon on
[88:12] Saturday. So, please, you know,
[88:15] please come by noon.
[88:17] >> What about if they can't make it on
[88:18] Saturday?
[88:19] >> Um if they can't make it on Saturday,
[88:20] they can drop off anytime at our
[88:23] physical location. It's 2230 North
[88:25] Country Club, which is just south of
[88:28] Grant.
[88:28] >> Okay, yep.
[88:29] >> It's actually they've they've taken away
[88:32] a lot of the construction cones. So, a
[88:34] lot of people use Country Club as their
[88:36] north-south route. So, they're driving
[88:38] by our building without even re-
[88:40] realizing it. Um but yep, swing by, drop
[88:43] them off sometime when you're in
[88:44] midtown, 9:00 to noon, Monday through
[88:46] Saturday. That those Saturday donation
[88:48] days are great for people who work 9:00
[88:51] to 5:00.
[88:52] >> Yeah.
[88:52] >> So.
[88:53] >> Very good. Well, thank you so much for
[88:54] coming in today.
[88:55] >> Well, thank you for having me. I really
[88:57] appreciate it. And, you know,
[89:00] um
[89:01] let me know about your nonprofit as
[89:03] well, so that we can we'll exchange some
[89:05] information. Okay.
[89:06] >> Absolutely fantastic.
[89:07] >> Great.
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[93:16] >> Who wants to start? Hey there. We are
[93:18] back.
[93:22] Caught me in a mid-conversation there
[93:24] with with young William.
[93:26] So.
[93:27] >> Yeah.
[93:27] >> Yeah.
[93:28] >> was a That
[93:28] >> That was a good conversation.
[93:29] >> It was. I enjoyed that.
[93:31] >> Yeah. Yeah. I grew up my mom took me to
[93:33] library all the time and she read to me
[93:35] and stuff. So, I was always a couple
[93:38] grade levels above my on my reading
[93:42] and comprehension and all that. So,
[93:44] believe it or not.
[93:45] >> I really ever went to the library. I
[93:46] just
[93:47] you know, I was an athlete.
[93:48] >> Oh, okay.
[93:49] >> so we're always out playing. I mean, all
[93:51] my older bro you know, I had a lot of
[93:52] older brothers. So, we were always out.
[93:54] >> Oh, yeah. Yeah, we were always outside
[93:56] riding our bikes and stuff, too, but
[93:58] yeah.
[93:58] >> Definitely definitely during the summer
[94:00] we probably take a weekly trip to the
[94:02] library.
[94:02] >> Really?
[94:03] >> Mhm.
[94:03] >> No, I don't think we ever
[94:04] >> Which is nice and when it's 110° or 115°
[94:07] outside and you go to the library, it's
[94:08] 75° inside there and
[94:10] >> Yeah.
[94:11] >> pretty nice.
[94:12] >> Yeah.
[94:12] >> Yeah.
[94:13] >> But it was good. That's a that's a great
[94:15] uh
[94:15] >> Yeah.
[94:16] >> organization that they have there. I
[94:17] don't know how the library got in there.
[94:18] >> They have a lot of cool programs.
[94:20] Uh you know, I've been I've been a poll
[94:22] worker for the last 16 years working
[94:25] elections.
[94:26] >> Oh, like that poll worker.
[94:27] >> Uh not
[94:28] >> Not not the dancer one.
[94:29] >> Not the dancer one, but but you know
[94:31] with inflation, you never know. You
[94:33] know, that
[94:33] we might start that.
[94:34] >> Yeah, inflation and inflammation.
[94:38] >> Keep us mobile, right?
[94:39] >> Absolutely.
[94:40] >> I'm sure Dr. Brunel can help me with
[94:42] that.
[94:44] No, but um
[94:45] >> Uh pictures in my head.
[94:47] >> Oh.
[94:49] Where were we?
[94:50] We used to We used to have some of the
[94:52] elections in the in the libraries. And
[94:55] um
[94:56] when we're in there
[94:58] we would see this huge big fluffy white
[95:02] dog.
[95:02] >> Okay.
[95:03] >> And they'd bring him in every week for
[95:05] story time with the little kids. And the
[95:07] little kids just loved and he just the
[95:08] big dog just went and laid down in front
[95:11] while someone read a story to them.
[95:13] >> Nice.
[95:14] >> But he was like the main character of,
[95:15] you know, of that story time.
[95:17] >> Yeah.
[95:18] >> So that was always really cool.
[95:19] >> Yeah.
[95:20] >> Yeah.
[95:20] >> That's awesome.
[95:20] >> So we got to see that. So what you got
[95:22] going on?
[95:22] >> Well, let's see. What do we have going
[95:24] on? Um you know,
[95:28] you know, you guys preparing for the the
[95:30] big race coming up here?
[95:31] >> Yeah.
[95:32] >> Right?
[95:32] >> Yep.
[95:33] >> You know, so we've been doing uh you
[95:34] know, doing some sponsorships for uh
[95:37] >> Yep. Yes, and thank you.
[95:38] >> your for your team there.
[95:39] >> Right. Right.
[95:40] >> You know, so that's great. Um Track
[95:42] Ranch, we just had the
[95:43] >> the grand opening.
[95:44] >> opening and you know, it was very
[95:47] >> It was good.
[95:47] >> We were there the for the grand opening
[95:49] night. We weren't there for the uh
[95:51] >> Right.
[95:52] >> for the big uh party.
[95:53] >> Yeah.
[95:54] >> But
[95:54] >> Yeah, we missed the party,
[95:55] unfortunately, but I was out of town, so
[95:58] >> and I was working, so
[95:59] >> And you were working, yeah.
[96:01] >> But um no, no, it's a great time out
[96:03] there, you know, um
[96:04] I think it's uh
[96:06] Well,
[96:07] >> just a a great organization and a great
[96:10] facility, too.
[96:11] >> I mean, they cleaned everything up and
[96:13] because you got to think about it, it's
[96:15] a working ranch. It's an actual working
[96:16] ranch with all those animals and stuff
[96:18] gets dirty quick and stuff breaks and so
[96:21] they're on top of it just to to make
[96:23] everything nice and pretty for the
[96:25] >> all the poop.
[96:27] Someone's got to take care of all the
[96:28] poop.
[96:29] >> That's right. That's right.
[96:30] >> yeah, it's definitely a working ranch
[96:32] and it was
[96:33] yeah, it was great. I mean, the animals
[96:35] were were were awesome, you know, the
[96:37] kids seemed to be having a really good
[96:38] time out there. I was I was a little
[96:40] surprised. I mean, I I I knew there'd be
[96:42] kids out there, but there were a lot of
[96:44] kids.
[96:44] >> Yeah. Yeah.
[96:45] >> You know, which was awesome, you know,
[96:47] so
[96:48] >> Yeah.
[96:49] >> Yeah, they they did a great job out
[96:50] there, so yeah, Track Ranch, great
[96:52] organization and uh
[96:53] >> Right.
[96:53] >> you know, our our buddy um you know,
[96:55] Cowboy Tilly
[96:56] >> Mhm.
[96:57] >> um you know, does a great job on that
[96:58] >> He does. He does. And he has a lot of of
[97:01] really good help, too.
[97:02] >> Yeah, well, you know, he's got such an
[97:04] amazing board of directors.
[97:06] You know, I heard it just improved, too,
[97:08] so
[97:10] >> I'm talking about the people that
[97:11] actually work at the ranch, but
[97:12] >> Well, they're all right, too, but you
[97:14] know, no, they're they're great, yeah,
[97:15] they're yeah, everyone's so friendly.
[97:17] >> Yeah.
[97:18] >> You know, that's the thing that caught
[97:20] me uh
[97:21] >> Really?
[97:21] >> you know, I've gone there and uh taken
[97:23] my grandson and
[97:24] just walk around and everybody's so
[97:26] nice, the volunteers and also the ones
[97:28] that actually work there.
[97:29] >> Right. Right.
[97:31] >> You know, helpful and they'll stop and
[97:33] talk to you and talk to you about the
[97:34] animals.
[97:35] >> Yeah.
[97:36] >> You know,
[97:36] >> There's a lot of animals out there.
[97:37] There's more than people realize.
[97:38] >> Yeah.
[97:39] >> Yeah. I think Scott said there's around
[97:41] 65
[97:42] >> Wow.
[97:42] >> animals out there, so
[97:44] >> Yeah.
[97:45] >> That's a lot of mouths to feed.
[97:46] >> You're right, yeah.
[97:47] Yeah, even the chickens were out like
[97:50] you know, they they were out there in
[97:51] full display and
[97:53] you know, so it was it was pretty cool.
[97:54] >> Yeah.
[97:55] >> Yeah.
[97:55] >> Yeah, very good.
[97:56] >> Yeah, so you know, we've been kind of
[97:57] doing a lot of that stuff, a lot of our
[97:58] our our
[97:59] nonprofit stuff has been going on.
[98:01] >> Mhm.
[98:02] >> You know, uh
[98:04] >> Both you and I are involved in a lot of
[98:05] nonprofit throughout the community.
[98:07] >> Yeah. And you know, it's so fun. It's
[98:09] just I wish we had more time to do more.
[98:11] >> Sure.
[98:12] >> but you know, unfortunately, you know,
[98:13] we
[98:14] >> We've got to work hard.
[98:15] >> to make a living, you know.
[98:16] >> Yeah.
[98:17] >> but yeah, it's always a lot of fun. Um
[98:20] Let's see, what else has been going on?
[98:22] Not, you know, just work. Just
[98:24] >> Mhm.
[98:25] >> you know, insurance has been busy.
[98:26] >> Right. That's good.
[98:28] >> it's our it's our busy time. So, it's
[98:29] you know, we've been I've been spending
[98:30] a lot more time at the office. So,
[98:33] you know, taking care of our clients.
[98:34] So, doing a lot more commercial type
[98:36] policies.
[98:37] >> Okay.
[98:38] >> You know, I've been kind of doing a lot
[98:39] >> this more of a busy time of the year?
[98:42] >> Well,
[98:43] typically our policies run in 6-month
[98:45] terms.
[98:46] >> Oh, okay.
[98:47] >> So, what makes this
[98:49] this
[98:51] time busy
[98:53] is that
[98:54] you know,
[98:56] >> 6 months goes tax season.
[98:58] >> Well, March and April
[99:00] >> Mhm.
[99:01] >> are busy months. You know, February,
[99:03] March, April really are our busy months.
[99:05] >> Okay.
[99:06] >> Um because of taxes. That's when people
[99:07] are getting their tax money back.
[99:09] So, we're writing policies at that point
[99:11] and then 6 months later they're
[99:13] renewals. So, here we are in
[99:14] >> Sure.
[99:15] >> September, October, you know, November.
[99:17] So,
[99:17] >> Yeah.
[99:18] >> You know, and and you know, there's
[99:19] always people buying cars right now. You
[99:20] know, sure.
[99:21] >> Sure.
[99:21] >> You see a lot of cars for sale now, a
[99:24] lot of used cars and they're they've
[99:26] been pretty affordable now. So, people
[99:28] do seem to be buying a lot more
[99:30] >> That's good.
[99:30] >> used cars and you know,
[99:32] you know, so insuring them. So, it's
[99:34] been busy, you know.
[99:35] >> Yeah.
[99:35] >> You know, doing that stuff, but
[99:37] you know, what I've been spending a lot
[99:39] of more of my time now is is education.
[99:42] >> Mhm.
[99:43] >> You know, is actually sitting with my
[99:45] clients and and really explaining
[99:46] coverages and not just
[99:49] you know, everybody wants to come in and
[99:50] just get the cheapest insurance. They
[99:52] just want it's all price. It's all and I
[99:54] understand that.
[99:55] >> Yeah. No one wants to spend money on
[99:56] insurance.
[99:57] >> Right.
[99:58] >> Right.
[99:58] >> But
[99:59] >> you need it.
[99:59] >> Yeah.
[99:59] >> Right. But they need it and
[100:01] you know, they'll come in after, you
[100:03] know, an accident or something and
[100:05] they'll I'll they'll be like, you know,
[100:07] how come I'm not covered for this? Why
[100:09] wasn't I covered for that?
[100:10] >> Yeah.
[100:11] >> Like, well, we talked about it. You
[100:12] know, we've talked about it and
[100:14] you know, so it's tough to
[100:17] you know, make the clients, you know,
[100:19] understand how important it is to have
[100:21] the proper coverage just to have
[100:23] coverage.
[100:24] >> Sure.
[100:24] >> Not just because the law requires.
[100:26] >> Right.
[100:27] >> You know, um how important it is to have
[100:29] it. Um but, you know, again, I can also
[100:31] understand that, you know, people
[100:34] you know, they're living paycheck to
[100:35] paycheck and
[100:36] >> There's only so much money that they can
[100:38] afford.
[100:38] >> that extra 20, 30 dollars a month to you
[100:42] know, upgrade their insurance a little
[100:43] bit and
[100:44] >> Right.
[100:44] >> And so, I tell them, you know, you can
[100:45] do it in little steps. You don't have to
[100:47] like go from minimum coverage to
[100:49] 100,000, you know,
[100:52] >> Yeah.
[100:53] >> liability. We can take it up to the next
[100:55] to the next level, you know, just a
[100:56] little bit.
[100:57] >> Yeah.
[100:57] >> So, you know, I've been kind of just
[100:58] educating. That that's one of my biggest
[101:00] things right now.
[101:01] >> Sure.
[101:02] >> You know, um
[101:04] you know, I I think if they fully
[101:05] understand what it is, then they'll I
[101:08] may not get them to upgrade it at that
[101:10] point, but at least it's in their mind
[101:12] now.
[101:13] >> Sure. Of course. Yeah.
[101:14] >> know, they may come back and say, "Okay,
[101:15] now I'm ready for
[101:17] >> Right.
[101:17] >> for something like that."
[101:18] >> Yeah. What about I and I think you
[101:20] touched on it today or yesterday about
[101:23] um
[101:24] taking an inventory of your
[101:26] of what you own.
[101:27] >> Oh, yeah. Absolutely.
[101:28] >> Yeah.
[101:29] >> Well, I mean, we talked about it. I
[101:30] mean, we talked about it.
[101:31] >> So, for your personal insurance at your
[101:33] >> know, if if you don't really know,
[101:35] remember, you know, have a list,
[101:37] pictures, serial numbers, things like
[101:40] that of what you have. You know,
[101:41] something could happen, whether it's,
[101:43] you know, a a burglary or your house
[101:45] could burn down.
[101:46] >> Yeah.
[101:47] >> You know, um you have to have proof
[101:49] >> kind of flood, you know, where
[101:51] >> A lot of things can happen. Really any
[101:53] any claim that you may have, you know,
[101:55] some sort that
[101:56] >> you know,
[101:58] when you're making your claim, you want
[101:59] to know what you had in there so that
[102:01] you can
[102:02] get,
[102:03] you know, reimbursed for it.
[102:05] >> Mhm.
[102:05] >> um
[102:06] you know, get some of that money back to
[102:07] try and replace some of that stuff. And
[102:09] if you don't remember what it is, I
[102:11] mean, you you can't remember everything
[102:12] that's in your home.
[102:13] >> No, especially in that time when when
[102:16] you're dealing with everything, you
[102:17] know.
[102:18] >> you know, my you know, I I have a watch
[102:20] collection. I mean, they're not
[102:21] expensive watches, you know, they're
[102:23] they're really not, but, you know, I
[102:24] have about 25 watches.
[102:27] Um I use one. So,
[102:28] you know, it's just time different times
[102:30] of my life I bought a watch bought a
[102:32] watch and, you know, this and you know,
[102:33] I have a nice but
[102:35] you know,
[102:36] unless I have a picture of them, I'm I'm
[102:38] not going to remember, you know, the
[102:39] values. You know, I have a list of
[102:41] pictures. You know, I have everything
[102:43] saved on a on a jump drive.
[102:45] >> Oh, okay.
[102:45] >> You know, and I keep everything that way
[102:47] and uh
[102:48] you know, with my wife's jewelry, with
[102:50] um
[102:50] >> Mhm.
[102:52] >> you know, my
[102:54] >> Yeah, if you have any collectibles or
[102:56] firearms, cameras, and stuff like that.
[102:59] >> Yeah.
[103:00] >> that that's of value. You know,
[103:01] obviously I don't take pictures of like,
[103:02] you know, my my silverware or anything.
[103:05] I mean, you know, we all have knives and
[103:06] forks and stuff. Unless unless it's like
[103:08] a collectible type stuff.
[103:09] >> Yeah, yeah.
[103:10] >> But yeah, it's really important that you
[103:12] you make you keep an inventory and, you
[103:14] know, and don't keep it where in the
[103:15] house where it could get damaged as
[103:17] well.
[103:17] >> Right. Yeah.
[103:18] >> You know, um that's something that
[103:19] should be kept, you know, in some type
[103:20] of a safe.
[103:21] >> Mhm.
[103:22] >> Um
[103:23] you know, maybe uh
[103:25] >> If you had a safety deposit box at the
[103:26] bank, that would be a perfect place to
[103:28] to have it.
[103:29] >> Yeah.
[103:29] >> Yeah.
[103:30] >> Yeah, so it's uh you know, one of those
[103:32] things that you know, we advise all the
[103:33] time.
[103:34] >> Sure.
[103:34] >> Yeah. Well,
[103:35] >> Sure. Well, the insurance wants some
[103:37] kind of proof or you know, you're not
[103:41] going to just go to them and say, "Hey,
[103:42] I had
[103:42] >> I had a Rolex
[103:43] >> 80 Yeah, 80 Rolexes in the house and and
[103:46] now, you know, the fire took them out or
[103:47] whatever. Yeah.
[103:48] >> Yeah, and I mean, you know, we actually
[103:50] have a fire box that we keep, you know,
[103:53] where I keep all my, you know, like if I
[103:56] make a major purchase, that's where the
[103:57] receipts go.
[103:58] >> Yeah.
[103:59] >> You know, just so that it's it's in
[104:00] there and out. Not only do I keep, you
[104:02] know, the receipt, I make a photo copy
[104:03] of the receipt and put the photo copy
[104:05] with it.
[104:05] >> Oh, nice.
[104:06] >> Because a lot of these receipts now,
[104:07] they disappear you know, it's that
[104:09] thermal paper. So, they'll start to you
[104:11] know, disappear.
[104:12] >> Yeah.
[104:12] >> You know, so I kind of staple it to an
[104:14] actual photo copy of it. So, that's
[104:16] >> Smart.
[104:17] >> that's I picture them both, but they'll
[104:19] also be in a lock box with, you know,
[104:21] fire box that I keep.
[104:23] You know, so it's good and safe. So,
[104:25] yeah, just
[104:25] >> Very smart.
[104:26] >> little things like that that you know, I
[104:27] try to talk about with my
[104:29] >> to protect yourself and protect your
[104:30] assets.
[104:31] >> Yeah, and and the you know, I pass on
[104:32] information to my clients so that you
[104:34] know,
[104:34] >> Yeah.
[104:35] >> they can uh
[104:36] you know, do the same way.
[104:37] >> Right. And you don't have to be a
[104:39] homeowner for that. You could be a
[104:39] renter. That's what Exactly the thing I
[104:41] was going to say. So, good. Yeah.
[104:43] >> renter's insurance, it's the same thing.
[104:45] You're you know, you're you're covering
[104:46] your property that's in
[104:48] >> in that house or apartment or whatever
[104:50] it is. Yeah.
[104:50] >> You know, as a renter as a renter, you
[104:51] know, you should have, you know, rental
[104:53] insurance because that's what protects,
[104:55] you know, your your not only your
[104:56] property, but any liability that may
[104:58] happen inside the home.
[104:59] >> Yeah.
[105:00] >> You know, if a guest is over or
[105:01] something and gets hurt and
[105:03] you know,
[105:04] >> Right.
[105:04] >> you don't want to get sued by Aunt Susie
[105:06] and
[105:07] you know, so
[105:08] >> Right. Aunt Susie's never coming back
[105:09] again.
[105:10] >> Right, exactly. Yeah.
[105:11] >> She falls down every time she gets over
[105:13] here.
[105:13] >> Yeah, yeah. So, so yeah, I mean, that's
[105:15] kind of kind of what we've been doing a
[105:16] lot at the office now is
[105:17] >> Yeah.
[105:18] Just educating people.
[105:19] >> Yeah. I mean, you know, I have I have my
[105:22] my office manager and also my wife that,
[105:24] you know, they take care of most of the
[105:26] selling and
[105:27] you know the day-to-day type stuff on
[105:29] that. You know so I concentrate a little
[105:31] bit more on
[105:32] on commercial insurance and
[105:34] and and the education part of it.
[105:36] >> All right, cool.
[105:37] Okay, let's see.
[105:38] >> Are you seeing a lot more opportunities
[105:39] for the commercial insurance?
[105:40] >> Yeah, yeah surprisingly
[105:43] yes yes a lot of small businesses a lot
[105:46] of you know
[105:50] places that have had trouble getting
[105:52] insurance. I mean there's a there's a
[105:53] lot of
[105:54] interesting businesses that are coming
[105:56] out.
[105:56] >> There is yeah.
[105:57] >> I mean and then then and you know
[106:00] God bless them you know that if it's
[106:02] you know if if there's you're going to
[106:03] make a business out of something
[106:05] >> Right.
[106:05] >> you know a legit business out of
[106:07] something then then go for it you know
[106:09] if it's going to make you some money and
[106:11] you know just as long as you're doing it
[106:12] the right way you know getting it
[106:13] insured and
[106:14] >> And sometimes insurance has to act like
[106:17] the underwriter or whatever has to
[106:18] figure out how they're going to insure
[106:20] that right?
[106:20] >> Sure not and you know not only that and
[106:22] then like what category they're going to
[106:23] put in you see and I have sometimes like
[106:26] the one I'm working on right now
[106:28] I've gone through like six carriers
[106:30] already to to try and find somebody that
[106:32] will
[106:33] will be able to do this type of
[106:34] business.
[106:35] >> Right.
[106:36] >> But you know and then as a broker you
[106:37] know I can I can do that I can work with
[106:39] a
[106:40] with something like that.
[106:41] >> Yeah.
[106:42] >> So yeah.
[106:42] >> Fantastic.
[106:43] >> Yeah it's
[106:44] >> Awesome man.
[106:45] Well let's let's wrap it up and cuz
[106:49] the next guys that are coming you know
[106:51] they they want to get in here and and
[106:53] have a great show.
[106:54] >> You know how they are you know what
[106:55] though they love to talk sports.
[106:57] >> Do they?
[106:57] >> Yeah.
[106:58] >> All right well let's we'll stick around
[107:00] and we'll listen to them.
[107:00] >> Yeah we'll we'll sit over there on the
[107:01] white couch.
[107:04] >> All right that is another episode of
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