World News Tonight (ABC) - 1999-07-11

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[0:00] on News 2.

[0:03] >> On World News Tonight this Sunday, to

[0:06] the South Pole and back,

[0:09] a mission of mercy accomplished.

[0:12] New hope for peace. A whirlwind round of

[0:15] diplomacy by Israel's new prime

[0:17] minister. And women's sports may never

[0:21] be the same.

[0:23] The legacy of the World Cup.

[0:31] From ABC,

[0:34] this is World News Tonight Sunday. Good

[0:38] evening. I'm Carol Simpson. The US Air

[0:41] Force is calling it one of the most

[0:42] challenging peacetime missions it has

[0:45] faced. A journey of more than 6,000

[0:48] miles from New Zealand to the South Pole

[0:51] in the dead of winter and in total

[0:53] darkness. All for the sake of a

[0:55] 47year-old woman in need of medical

[0:58] treatment, but stranded at the bottom of

[1:00] the earth. A risky mission that today

[1:03] went off without a hitch. Here's ABC's

[1:05] Beth Nissen.

[1:07] The weather was good for the South Pole

[1:10] in Winter. The US Air Force crew that

[1:12] took off from Christ Church, New Zealand

[1:13] last night flew into clear Arctic air

[1:16] that was only 70° below zero. It can be

[1:19] a far more dangerous 100 below at this

[1:21] time of year. In 7 hours, the mission

[1:24] crew was straining to see through night

[1:26] vision equipment the remote Antarctic

[1:29] research station, a tiny speck in the

[1:31] black of a sunless winter on a sea of

[1:34] white ice.

[1:35] >> That was one of our biggest challenges

[1:36] was identifying the drop zone in the

[1:38] white wastelands of the South Pole. The

[1:40] drop zone was marked by smudge pots that

[1:42] the scientists had put out to help us

[1:44] identify the drop area.

[1:46] >> The drop had to be precise. Those on the

[1:48] ground didn't have much time to find and

[1:51] pick up the bundles after they were

[1:52] parachuted onto the ice.

[1:54] >> We estimated 5 to seven minutes uh

[1:56] before the extreme cold would start to

[1:58] degrade the medical equipment and drugs

[2:01] that were inside the pallets.

[2:03] >> Medical equipment and drugs to help a

[2:05] 47year-old woman at the base who has a

[2:07] lump in her breast and can't be

[2:09] evacuated for diagnosis or treatment

[2:11] until October when the Arctic winter

[2:13] breaks. In two passes over the drop

[2:16] site, the crew pushed out bundles packed

[2:18] with ultrasound and video conferencing

[2:20] equipment to help the base doctor

[2:23] diagnose the woman's breast lump and

[2:25] medicines and drugs that could be used

[2:27] to treat her once a diagnosis is made.

[2:29] Several of those who flew the mission

[2:31] told officers on the ground that they

[2:33] couldn't help but think about the cold

[2:35] fear that their own wives or sisters or

[2:37] mothers would feel if they thought they

[2:39] might be sick and were frozen a world

[2:42] away from standard medical care.

[2:44] >> Our crews were very personally involved

[2:47] uh in this drop. They uh included a

[2:50] bouquet of flowers, a get well card, and

[2:52] a picture of themselves so that uh the

[2:54] lady would know who her deliverers were.

[2:57] After pushing the bundles into the icy

[2:59] night, the crew huddled and waited for

[3:01] word from the ground. The news was good.

[3:04] >> One of the uh morale bundles had

[3:06] included some fresh fruit and mail that

[3:08] sustained some damage on impact, but

[3:10] about 90% of the material inside

[3:12] survived unscathed, and our initial

[3:14] reports are that all the medical

[3:16] equipment has survived.

[3:17] >> Air Force officials are calling the

[3:19] South Pole airdrop one of the most

[3:20] challenging peacetime missions they've

[3:22] ever attempted. Crew members who flew

[3:25] last night's mission simply hope they've

[3:26] brought one worried woman some peace of

[3:29] mind. Beth Nissen, ABC News, New York.

[3:33] >> In the Middle East, new hope for the

[3:35] peace process. Israel's new prime

[3:38] minister, Ahood Barack, met with

[3:40] Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat today.

[3:43] It was Barack's second meeting with an

[3:45] Arab leader during his first week in

[3:47] office. ABC's Klay Scott reports.

[3:52] Only 5 days after Israel's new prime

[3:54] minister took office, this symbolic

[3:56] handshake, one that Palestinians and

[3:58] Israelis hope will mark a new chapter in

[4:00] their history.

[4:01] >> Both sides have suffered enough. It's

[4:05] about time to find a way to nurture

[4:10] mutual respect.

[4:11] >> After three years of Benjamin

[4:13] Netanyahu's reluctant peacemaking, Yaser

[4:15] Arafat welcomed Ahoud Barack's words of

[4:18] reconciliation.

[4:20] It's time to put an end to the cycle of

[4:22] violence and terror, he said. But he was

[4:24] wary of Barack's offer to implement last

[4:26] year's Y River Accords, handing over

[4:29] more territory to the Palestinians. The

[4:31] agreements have to be implemented fully,

[4:33] he said. We can't wait forever. Nowhere

[4:36] is that frustration more apparent than

[4:38] here in Gaza, a narrow, overcrowded

[4:40] strip of sand that most residents have

[4:43] never been allowed to leave.

[4:44] Demonstrators today called for the

[4:46] release of hundreds of Palestinians from

[4:48] Israeli jails, a halt to Jewish

[4:50] settlements, and the building of a

[4:52] corridor for safe passage between Gaza

[4:54] and the West Bank. All three things,

[4:57] they say were promised to them by

[4:58] Netanyahu's government.

[5:02] >> So far, Barack hasn't shown us anything

[5:04] new, says this man. We've heard it all

[5:07] before. We have to restore a partnership

[5:10] that has been shattered over the last

[5:11] few years and that we've got to both

[5:14] Israeli people and Palestinian people

[5:16] have got to get in their mind that peace

[5:17] is not a zero sum game.

[5:19] >> Barack will fly to Washington later this

[5:21] week to meet with President Clinton. In

[5:23] the meantime, he cautions the

[5:24] Palestinians should not expect too much

[5:26] too soon. For now, he says it's enough

[5:29] that the two sides are talking again.

[5:32] Klay Scott, ABC News, in the Gaza Strip.

[5:35] Now turning to US politics, some good

[5:38] news for presidential candidate Bill

[5:40] Bradley, delivered by his opponent's

[5:42] campaign. Adviserss to Vice President Al

[5:45] Gore said New York Senator Daniel

[5:48] Patrick Moyahan is expected to endorse

[5:50] Bradley. Another sign that the former

[5:52] senator from New Jersey may be gaining

[5:55] some ground. Here's ABC's Jamie Floyd.

[5:59] Bill Bradley loosened up his image, if

[6:01] not his tie, with an appearance on NBC's

[6:04] Tonight Show Friday.

[6:05] >> Bill Bradley is so boring. His Secret

[6:08] Service code name is Al Gore.

[6:10] >> Having a good time, perhaps because in

[6:12] recent weeks, Bradley has become

[6:14] something few expected, a real

[6:16] contender.

[6:17] >> He's in the game. He's a player.

[6:19] >> One reason, money.

[6:21] >> And here's Bill Bradley. Everybody's all

[6:24] America choice. Bradley, who played for

[6:26] Princeton and then the New York Knicks,

[6:28] is now mining those old sports contacts

[6:30] for cash. LA Lakers coach Phil Jackson

[6:33] has hosted fundraisers for his former

[6:36] teammate. And superstar Michael Jordan

[6:38] is also a contributor. Bradley is

[6:41] getting less support from former

[6:43] colleagues in his other career, the

[6:45] Senate, where most Democrats are backing

[6:47] Al Gore. Still word today from the Gore

[6:50] camp that they expect New York Senator

[6:52] Moahan to endorse Bradley.

[6:55] >> So far, only Democratic senators Bob

[6:58] Kerry of Nebraska and Paul Wellstone of

[7:00] Minnesota have endorsed Bradley.

[7:02] >> I think Bill can help revitalize

[7:04] democracy in our country.

[7:06] >> Bill Bradley built an 18-year career in

[7:09] the Senate, but for a former basketball

[7:11] star, some say he wasn't much of a team

[7:14] player. And when he left the Senate,

[7:16] Bradley did not hide his frustration

[7:18] with politics or his disappointment with

[7:21] some of his colleagues.

[7:22] >> Neither political party speaks to people

[7:26] where they live their lives.

[7:27] >> The way he went out of the Senate says a

[7:29] lot about Bradley, and it's it's one of

[7:31] the reasons there's there's some

[7:32] resentment from about him in Democratic

[7:34] quarters. Now,

[7:35] >> even if Bradley's parting shot then cost

[7:37] him some support in the Senate, for

[7:40] American voters who are disillusioned

[7:41] with Washington, it may help position

[7:44] Bradley as the outsider in the race

[7:46] against insider Al Gore. Jamie Floyd,

[7:50] ABC News, Washington. Still ahead on

[7:53] World News Tonight this Sunday, the

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[7:58] High-tech thieves skimming millions from

[8:00] unsuspecting customers. A controversial

[8:03] history lesson evoking strong feelings

[8:06] about slavery. And the US women's soccer

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[10:24] >> That's because one of the waiters using

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[10:28] scammed customers out of nearly a

[10:30] quarter of a million dollars. Management

[10:32] wants to make sure nobody's able to do

[10:34] that again.

[10:35] >> You always think it can't happen to me,

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[10:40] establishment that accepts credit cards,

[10:43] this could happen to you. Here's how you

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[11:18] >> You might have a card skimmed in New

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[11:28] >> The Secret Service says skimming is the

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[11:45] >> The Secret Service says there's not a

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[11:53] O'Brien, ABC News, Washington.

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[14:23] slavery. At Virginia's Colonial

[14:26] Williamsburg, a new tourist attraction

[14:28] is eliciting a strong reaction from

[14:31] visitors. ABC's Carla Davis reports.

[14:37] >> The scenes are complete with bright

[14:39] colonial costumes and period music.

[14:45] But this year, for those who choose to

[14:47] listen, there is a dissonant chord.

[14:53] >> Sweet Jesus.

[14:54] >> Here, actors recreate an all too real

[14:57] part of American history.

[14:59] >> It's one thing to read about it. It's

[15:01] another thing to see this happening to

[15:02] people. It tore my guts apart.

[15:04] >> What can I do?

[15:07] AIN'T I A MAN JUST LIKE HE IS?

[15:09] >> The program called Enslaving Virginia

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[15:14] from the whitewashed version of history

[15:16] depicted in colonial Williamsburg for

[15:18] decades. Visitors often use one word to

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[15:24] disturbing aspect of the program is a

[15:26] positive good because uh many times

[15:28] people come here with certain

[15:29] perceptions of the past that have been o

[15:31] overromanticized and glorified.

[15:34] >> In this narrative, a slave wrongly

[15:36] accused of trying to escape is lashed 39

[15:39] times.

[15:40] >> I couldn't help but related to the

[15:42] incident in New York City when the man

[15:44] was shot 42 times by the New York City

[15:47] police. That's all I kept thinking of

[15:49] every time they said how they lashed

[15:50] that man 39 times. And I kept thinking

[15:53] how things change but they don't.

[15:55] >> The plot twists when it is also revealed

[15:57] that the foreman is a slave.

[15:59] >> The master had threatened to sell his

[16:01] wife and ordered him to whip his fellow

[16:04] slave.

[16:05] >> I couldn't I couldn't control myself.

[16:08] I hated him. I hated master. I hated

[16:11] this place.

[16:12] >> There was some scenes that uh sort of

[16:15] upset me. But then we have our children

[16:20] that need to know the history also.

[16:23] >> Providing both communities with a

[16:24] different perspective is the whole point

[16:26] of this living museum while expressing a

[16:29] new kind of patriotism. One colored red,

[16:32] white, blue, and black. Carla Davis, ABC

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[16:39] Still ahead, from the ivory tower to

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[18:52] Tonight, another first. Americans of a

[18:54] certain age might remember the

[18:56] television series The Man from Interpol.

[18:58] It was based on the international

[19:00] criminal police organization known as

[19:03] Interpol. But the real Interpole has

[19:06] outlasted the TV show.

[19:09] Created 75 years ago, it operates as a

[19:13] crime fighting cooperative with its 177

[19:17] member countries. Among the fugitives

[19:19] Interpol has helped bring to justice,

[19:22] Chile's president, Agusto Pinoche, and

[19:25] Ira Einhorn, known as the hippie killer.

[19:28] Now, for the first time in Interpol's

[19:30] history, an American is poised to fill

[19:34] its top position.

[19:36] Ron Noble, a law professor at New York

[19:38] University and a former federal

[19:40] prosecutor, has just been named

[19:43] Interpol's new Secretary General

[19:45] designate. ABC's Aaron Brown sat down

[19:48] for a conversation with Ron Noble.

[19:52] >> Businesses are embarking on

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[20:07] each other in order for criminals not to

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[20:13] next.

[20:14] >> You're not just an American going to do

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[20:19] It's not lost on me that I'm an

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[20:51] beginning how did you end up with this

[20:53] job? um father was in the army as you

[20:55] said a master sergeant became a janitor

[20:57] but he used to look in the walls of the

[20:59] lawyer's offices and doctor's offices

[21:00] will he clean the floors he'd say if you

[21:03] have a degree like that you'll have

[21:05] people doing for you what I'm doing for

[21:07] them complicated crimes money laundering

[21:10] involved swindles involved securities

[21:14] fraud involved is innerpole

[21:18] technologically sophisticated enough in

[21:20] 1999

[21:22] to deal with those kinds of crimes.

[21:24] >> Interpole is not where it should be

[21:26] technologically speaking. It's behind

[21:29] the curve. In 1985, it was its greatest

[21:32] moment when it moved from index cards to

[21:34] a computerized system. When it moved

[21:36] from before that from Morris code to

[21:38] another form of communication, but the

[21:40] internet pole is just just beginning to

[21:44] understand it and if it doesn't get up

[21:47] to speed fast, it's going to become

[21:48] irrelevant.

[21:49] >> Is that a financial deal?

[21:51] >> Are you kidding me? The Interpol's

[21:52] budget is a joke when you think about

[21:54] it. That they have $25 million to $30

[21:57] million budget. It's a joke.

[21:59] >> What does that tell you about the

[22:00] commitment of countries to this? It

[22:03] tells me that they don't understand. If

[22:05] we don't have well-trained, well

[22:07] equipped, educated, honest, hardworking

[22:10] police officer is properly equipped

[22:12] throughout the world. And when that

[22:13] crime happens, whether it's an embassy

[22:15] bombing or a business bombing, we're

[22:16] going to be in trouble.

[22:18] Ron Noble is expected to be confirmed as

[22:20] Interpol secretary general this fall.

[22:23] Still ahead, nerves of steel and a

[22:25] powerful kick clenched the World Cup. It

[22:28] may have transformed more than just the

[22:31] sport.

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[24:06] >> Tonight on 2020 Mosquito Misery.

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[24:26] >> Now we go to ESPN Sports Center for a

[24:29] quick look at the day sports highlights.

[24:31] Here's Kenny Maine. Kenny.

[24:32] >> Carol, thanks. Some rough news today for

[24:34] Jose Cano of the Tampa Bay Devil Race.

[24:36] He's going to miss Tuesday's All-Star

[24:38] game in Boston. And in fact, his entire

[24:40] season is now in question. Conco is

[24:42] undergoing back surgery today in Miami

[24:44] on a herniated disc. Cano was to be in

[24:47] his first All-Star game since 1992. He

[24:50] left Friday's game with back stiffness.

[24:52] In fact, he's had a history of back

[24:53] trouble. He was off to a great start

[24:55] this season, leading the American League

[24:57] in home runs with 31. Yanks suck

[24:59] preserve their New York City manhood,

[25:00] avoid the sweep against the Mets. This

[25:02] helped Rick Le has reached the 18 to 24

[25:05] year old target audience. with a

[25:06] three-run homer, 3-2 lead on the way to

[25:08] a six-3 Yankees win. In Cleveland, the

[25:10] Reds came from behind to beat the

[25:11] Indians. But Cleveland's Manny Ramirez

[25:13] is the one to catch in the RBI race. His

[25:15] two-run double in the first gives him 96

[25:17] RBI, third highest total ever at the

[25:20] All-Star break. To the tour to France

[25:22] now in a comeback story in more than one

[25:24] way. American Lance Armstrong won the

[25:27] eighth of 20 stages in this race. This

[25:29] puts him in the yellow jersey as the

[25:31] overall leader. And Carol, it continues

[25:34] Armstrong's bold return to the top of

[25:36] the racing game three years after being

[25:37] diagnosed with testicular cancer that

[25:40] had threatened his life. On a good note,

[25:41] that's your sports and brief.

[25:43] >> Thank you, Kenny Maine of ESPN Sports

[25:45] Center. Finally tonight, the US women's

[25:48] soccer team celebrated its World Cup

[25:50] victory today at Disneyland, the theme

[25:53] park owned by ABC's parent company. The

[25:56] women's victory is being called a

[25:58] defining moment for women athletes. One

[26:01] day later, we're still celebrating the

[26:03] big win. But as ABC's Judy Mueller tells

[26:05] us, it was all about teamwork, and the

[26:08] impact of that may be felt for years to

[26:11] come.

[26:12] The game may be over, but the stories

[26:15] got legs.

[26:17] >> This team on this day in this place

[26:20] forever changed the way we think about

[26:22] women in sports. to young girls. It said

[26:26] it's okay to be aggressive and

[26:28] competitive and strong. In fact, it's

[26:30] better than okay. It's glorious. And

[26:33] >> that's really something that we're very

[26:34] proud of doing for young girls across

[26:36] this country is giving them someone to

[26:38] look up to because we didn't have

[26:40] someone to look up to uh when we were

[26:42] growing up.

[26:42] >> To young women of color, it said you too

[26:45] can be the one who saves the day at the

[26:48] end of a very long day, at the end of a

[26:51] very long road. I've had somewhat of a

[26:54] rocky road getting here. You know, I

[26:55] wasn't, you know, your your all American

[26:57] girl and I had to come through the back

[26:59] door, so to speak. And so, I just want

[27:00] them aware that even if they don't, you

[27:03] know, get in through the front door, the

[27:04] windows in the back door always open.

[27:05] >> To those who want to rescend Title 9,

[27:08] the law requiring equal funding for

[27:10] girls sports and schools, it said, "Not

[27:13] so fast, buddy. I think that we've shown

[27:15] that we can fill stadiums and that the

[27:18] Title 9 legislation was something that

[27:20] initiated change and acceptance of women

[27:22] in sport. So that's why this tournament

[27:24] means so much

[27:25] >> to men and boys, fathers and brothers.

[27:27] It said we speak the same language even

[27:30] if we say it with high fives and kisses

[27:33] and a victory dance to boot.

[27:35] >> Watch the USA celebrate. And to everyone

[27:38] regardless of gender or age or athletic

[27:41] ability, it said you can't win this game

[27:44] alone.

[27:45] >> Off the corner from China.

[27:48] PENN SAVED UP THE LINE. REBOUND WAS

[27:50] CLEARED. THE BALL WAS HEADED FOR GOAL.

[27:54] >> There's 20 individuals, but at the end

[27:56] of the day, it's the team that comes

[27:57] first. And I think that's a great

[27:58] message.

[27:59] >> A great message that transcends a great

[28:02] moment. Judy Mueller, ABC News, Los

[28:05] Angeles. And it was a great moment.

[28:08] That's our report for tonight. Be sure

[28:09] to watch 2020 Sunday later and tomorrow

[28:12] on Good Morning America, the US Women's

[28:15] World Cup soccer team. I'm Carol

[28:17] Simpson. From all of us here at ABC

[28:19] News, have a good week and good night.

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