Nightly Business Report (PBS) - 2005-10-07
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[0:03] The latest snapshot of American
[0:05] employment shows a fuzzy picture. On one
[0:08] hand, fewer jobs than expected were lost
[0:10] last month. On the other, the
[0:11] unemployment rate jumped to its highest
[0:13] level since May.
[0:15] >> The Treasury Secretary says despite that
[0:17] jump in the jobless rate, the economy is
[0:19] still going strong. We sit down with
[0:21] John Snow to get his analysis of the
[0:23] September employment report and his
[0:25] upcoming trip to China.
[0:27] >> The growing threat of avian flu has the
[0:29] government and pharmaceutical companies
[0:31] working [music] overtime to come up with
[0:32] ways to fight it. We look at the
[0:34] challenge of finding a vaccine to
[0:35] prevent it and a treatment to cure it.
[0:38] >> And tonight's Market Monitor says he
[0:40] sees two things happening: higher
[0:42] interest rates and lower stock prices.
[0:44] He is Robert Morrow, editor of the
[0:46] Investment Advisory Service.
[0:48] >> I'm Paul Kangas.
[0:50] >> And I'm Jeff Yastine. Susie Gharib is
[0:52] off tonight. This is Nightly Business
[0:53] Report for Friday, October 7th.
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[1:47] >> Good evening, everyone. A
[1:48] better-than-expected employment report
[1:50] for September contains some
[1:52] better-than-expected news about the
[1:53] economy, especially in the wake of the
[1:55] hurricanes. While the US lost just
[1:58] 35,000 jobs in September, the job
[2:00] numbers for July and August were revised
[2:03] upward. As Scott Gerber reports, experts
[2:06] say that shows a labor market strong
[2:08] enough to withstand disruptions caused
[2:10] by the storms.
[2:12] >> The most important headline in today's
[2:14] report on employment in September is
[2:16] what it says about employment in the two
[2:17] previous months. The Labor Department
[2:20] added 35,000 to the payroll employment
[2:22] number for July and 42,000 to August,
[2:25] indicating a much stronger economy
[2:27] before the hurricanes hit. The number
[2:29] for September does show a 35,000 job
[2:31] decline, the first decline since 2003.
[2:34] But some forecasters were looking for a
[2:36] drop of as much as 150,000.
[2:39] The separate survey of households found
[2:41] the unemployment rate to be 5.1%
[2:44] up 2/10 of 1% from August. The Labor
[2:46] Department admits this report does not
[2:48] fully reflect the impact of the
[2:50] hurricanes. The reference period for
[2:52] both surveys occurred before Hurricane
[2:54] Rita struck, and difficulty in
[2:56] collecting data in the disaster areas
[2:58] meant lower than usual response rates.
[3:00] Most economists noted a negative impact,
[3:02] but focused on indications of strength
[3:04] rather than weakness.
[3:06] >> You can see very sharp drops in the
[3:07] retail sector, in the hotel and
[3:10] restaurant industries, and in important
[3:13] parts of the transportation sectors of
[3:15] the US economy. So there were a lot of
[3:17] people who couldn't work over the month
[3:19] of September because of the hurricanes.
[3:21] Those losses are likely to be temporary,
[3:23] and when we look at the broader picture
[3:25] of job creation in the economy net of
[3:27] that, it still looked like it was
[3:29] running at a very solid trend.
[3:31] >> Bond traders had little reaction to the
[3:33] report, although most Fed watchers think
[3:35] the data almost guarantees the Central
[3:37] Bank will continue its policy of raising
[3:39] interest rates well into next year.
[3:42] >> I think if anything the Fed is going to
[3:44] try and look through the storm effects.
[3:46] And if you look at all the labor market
[3:48] data we get,
[3:50] they actually look pretty strong. Um,
[3:52] especially when you extract the effects
[3:54] of the storm. So, whether it's jobless
[3:56] claims when you take out hurricane
[3:58] effects there, they look like they've
[4:00] fallen. All right, it looks like payroll
[4:01] employment, the pace of it has actually
[4:03] stepped up. Um Fed's going to keep
[4:06] hiking rates.
[4:07] >> The Fed has raised interest rates at
[4:09] each of its last 11 meetings. It meets
[4:11] next November 1st. Scott Gerber, Nightly
[4:13] Business Report, New York.
[4:15] >> That smaller than expected loss of jobs
[4:17] was a relief to investors, encouraging
[4:19] them to buy stocks depressed by this
[4:21] week's steep sell-off. At the outset of
[4:23] trading, the Dow rose 35 points, and
[4:24] Nasdaq was up 10.
[4:26] That tepid rebound disappointed many
[4:28] potential buyers, as did a comeback in
[4:30] the price of oil. So, the upturn
[4:32] flattened out this afternoon, and stocks
[4:33] ended with just modest gains. Dow
[4:35] Industrial Average up only 5.21 at
[4:37] 10,292.31.
[4:40] It was the Dow's only gain this week, as
[4:42] it fell 276.39
[4:44] points overall. The Nasdaq Composite was
[4:46] up 6.27, closing at 2,090.35 today. It
[4:50] rose twice and fell three times this
[4:52] week for a net loss of 61.34 points.
[4:55] Standard & Poor's 500 was up 4.41 today
[4:58] at 1,195.90.
[5:00] In the bond market, the 10-year note
[5:01] climbed 11/32 to 99 and 6/32, lowering
[5:05] the yield to 4.35%.
[5:08] By the way, the stock market is open,
[5:09] but the bond market is closed on Monday
[5:11] for the Columbus Day holiday.
[5:19] >> [music]
[5:33] [music]
[5:35] >> And back now to our top story,
[5:36] September's employment report. Treasury
[5:39] Secretary John Snow says the numbers
[5:40] show the fundamentals of our economy
[5:42] remain, quote, exceptionally strong, end
[5:45] quote. Washington Bureau Chief Darren
[5:47] Gersh sat down with Snow today and began
[5:49] by asking if the report gives us an idea
[5:52] of the full economic impact of Hurricane
[5:54] Katrina.
[5:56] >> Well, I think so. We're continuing to
[5:59] refine our assessments of it. It looks
[6:02] like most of uh
[6:04] of the negative
[6:07] economic news is in the region.
[6:10] And
[6:11] if it hadn't been for Katrina
[6:13] we would have had the very strong job
[6:16] numbers nationwide. I was
[6:19] never happy to see unemployment of
[6:21] course go up. But it's a tribute to the
[6:24] strength of the underlying economy that
[6:26] these numbers came in so far under the
[6:30] the estimates.
[6:31] >> Well, be a little more specific. What
[6:32] what strength are you seeing even in
[6:34] this week report? What what fundamental
[6:36] underlying strength does it show?
[6:37] >> Well, the the overall GDP growth I think
[6:41] is continuing to be well above
[6:43] trendline.
[6:45] And if we lost 300,000 jobs or so in the
[6:49] region
[6:50] and we only have unemployment down by 35
[6:56] thousand jobs, that suggests that lots
[6:58] of jobs are being created outside the
[7:00] region. So I'd point to that.
[7:03] >> Now, the Fed is concerned about
[7:04] inflation.
[7:06] Given what's going on in this report,
[7:08] are you worried about inflation?
[7:10] >> Well, I think we're going to continue to
[7:13] to have
[7:14] an overall
[7:17] non-inflationary environment or low
[7:19] inflation environment. That is, it looks
[7:21] to me as if inflation is is pretty well
[7:23] in check. We have some sectors, energy
[7:26] most notably, where prices have risen
[7:29] quite dramatically. But overall, we
[7:34] continue to benefit from a low inflation
[7:36] environment.
[7:37] The Fed's committed to to stable
[7:40] non-inflationary growth. They need to be
[7:42] vigilant. They are vigilant. Uh
[7:45] inflation is largely a monetary
[7:46] phenomenon. We We benefit from an
[7:49] economy that is so competitive. Uh with
[7:53] the rising productivity, with high
[7:54] productivity rates.
[7:56] >> One more Katrina question though. We're
[7:58] hearing these estimates out out of
[7:59] Capitol Hill that the spending by the
[8:02] federal government could go as high as a
[8:03] quarter trillion dollars.
[8:05] That seems like a very high number. Can
[8:08] you put some kind of cap on this? Is
[8:09] there going to be some kind of
[8:10] discipline
[8:11] >> Well, the president said
[8:13] and I reiterated it yes his comments
[8:15] yesterday in testimony before the
[8:17] finance committee that we are going to
[8:20] assist in the rebuilding of the region.
[8:22] And we are going to assist people in
[8:24] rebuilding their lives.
[8:26] Uh and we're going to do it in a
[8:27] fiscally responsible way. We're going to
[8:29] make sure that the money's that that are
[8:31] deployed are deployed in
[8:32] well, targeted well, and and spent well.
[8:36] And
[8:37] I think we can do that will be done, but
[8:39] it will be done in a way that
[8:42] that is far below those those outer
[8:45] outer level estimates that you're
[8:47] referring to.
[8:48] Yesterday the CBO
[8:49] >> 100 billion?
[8:50] >> Yesterday the CBO
[8:53] indicated they thought the number was uh
[8:55] uh was was closer to 100 and I think
[8:59] they had 150 billion.
[9:02] Uh
[9:02] which is a lot less than the 250 billion
[9:05] that others or 300 billion that others
[9:06] are talking about. I think it's going to
[9:08] be much closer to that low end of the
[9:10] low end of the range.
[9:12] >> You're going to leave for Asia tomorrow.
[9:13] You'll be talking with the Chinese. It
[9:15] looks like they gave you on paper
[9:17] a flexible exchange rate, but in
[9:19] practice have not.
[9:21] Are you disappointed?
[9:22] >> Well, we're going to we're going to
[9:24] continue to press for flexibility. We We
[9:27] of course
[9:28] were pleased to see that initial move
[9:31] which took the it took the yuan up 2.1%.
[9:35] Uh with a commitment to, uh, to move,
[9:39] uh,
[9:39] move forward to put in place greater
[9:41] flexibility and a commitment to use
[9:43] market forces. A commitment in their
[9:45] statement to use demand and supply.
[9:48] Uh,
[9:49] >> But why haven't they done it? Why
[9:50] haven't they moved more than 2%?
[9:52] >> We, uh,
[9:54] uh,
[9:54] are going to continue to press for
[9:57] greater flexibility. Uh,
[10:00] and I think quiet diplomacy, quiet
[10:02] outreach to them,
[10:04] uh, continuing to to to make it clear
[10:06] that this isn't just the United States,
[10:09] but it's the it's the IMF, and it's the
[10:12] World Bank, and it's the G7, and it's
[10:14] the G20, and it's the Central Bank
[10:16] Governor of, uh, the ECB, and it's
[10:19] virtually all the financial leaders of
[10:20] the world are saying it's time for China
[10:23] to move.
[10:24] >> Secretary Snow, thank you very much.
[10:25] >> Thank you.
[10:27] >> The White House said today President
[10:28] Bush hopes to choose a replacement for
[10:30] retiring Federal Reserve Chairman Alan
[10:32] Greenspan as soon as possible. The
[10:34] administration says that is a priority
[10:37] appointment and the president's staff
[10:38] has been looking at potential
[10:39] candidates. Greenspan's 18-year tenure
[10:42] at the Fed is slated to end January
[10:44] 31st.
[10:49] >> [music]
[10:56] [music]
[11:07] [music]
[11:16] >> Delphi Corporation is taking new steps
[11:18] to fight off bankruptcy. The auto parts
[11:21] maker sweetened the severance policies
[11:23] of 21 of its top officers to try to keep
[11:26] them loyal to the firm, but analysts say
[11:28] it's going to be an uphill battle.
[11:29] Delphi is desperately trying to cut
[11:31] costs, asking the United Auto Workers
[11:34] Union for huge concessions on cutting
[11:36] wages and health care costs. That help
[11:38] is critical, as is financial help from
[11:40] the company's former parent, General
[11:41] Motors. Delphi is working to get a
[11:43] restructuring deal in place before
[11:45] October 17th, when the bankruptcy laws
[11:48] change. And Paul late today, Standard &
[11:50] Poor's dropped Delphi from the S&P 500
[11:53] index. They'll be replaced with
[11:54] Patterson Companies.
[11:56] >> Well, Delphi stock fell almost 50%
[11:58] today, Jeff. It closed down $1.08 at
[12:02] $1.12 a share.
[12:04] Now, let's look at our other stocks in
[12:06] the news tonight.
[12:11] Big board volume leader on 19.9 million
[12:13] shares, General Electric up another 63
[12:15] cents, gained 91 cents yesterday after
[12:17] the company said third quarter earnings
[12:19] will be 44 cents, and that's at the high
[12:21] end of its previous
[12:22] estimates. Pfizer was down 26 cents.
[12:24] ExxonMobil bouncing back a dollar three.
[12:27] Lucent plus a penny and Taiwan
[12:29] Semiconductor up 13 cents. That was
[12:31] fifth in big board volume. Blockbuster
[12:33] up 97 cents, that's a 22% gain. Company
[12:36] said they'll meet its third quarter debt
[12:37] payments, contrary to speculation. It
[12:39] sees third quarter earnings being cut by
[12:41] only about two cents a share due to the
[12:43] hurricanes. Time Warner a 9-cent gain.
[12:45] CVS Corp, the drugstore chain, down
[12:48] another 72 cents. It was off a dollar 75
[12:50] yesterday when the company cut its third
[12:51] quarter guidance by two cents down to 29
[12:54] cents a share. Texas Instruments up a
[12:56] dime and SBC Communications lost 34
[12:58] cents. Accenture Limited rising a dollar
[13:01] 42. Good fourth quarter earnings, 38
[13:03] cents up from 30 cents last year.
[13:05] Revenues up 13%. Standard & Poor's
[13:07] repeated a buy recommendation. And
[13:09] Accenture did initiate a 30 cent per
[13:11] share annual dividend.
[13:13] Then we see Apria Healthcare Group
[13:15] losing $5.46.
[13:17] Company cut its 2005 revenue growth
[13:19] forecast from growth of 5 to 6% all the
[13:22] way down to just 2 to 3% growth. Cable &
[13:26] Wireless down a dollar 15, company sees
[13:28] first half 2006 revenues dropping 6% due
[13:31] mostly to poor results in its United
[13:33] Kingdom operations.
[13:35] Crimi Mae, up $4.19. This is a
[13:38] commercial mortgage lender. It's going
[13:39] to be acquired by CDB Capital Financing,
[13:42] a Canadian company. The price, $20 a
[13:44] share in cash.
[13:46] Oxford Industries, which makes men's and
[13:48] women's apparel, up $3.08. Big first
[13:51] quarter earning, 79 cents up from 36
[13:53] cents a year ago. Sales up 27%. Company
[13:56] comfortable with 2006 earnings estimates
[13:58] of $3.42 to $3.52 a share. Georgia Gulf,
[14:02] a chemical company, was up $2.23 after
[14:05] the Fulcrum Partners brokerage upgraded
[14:07] it from neutral to buy. And Perkin Elmer
[14:09] rising $1.44. The company's going to
[14:12] sell its aerospace unit to Eaton Corp
[14:14] for $333 million. Baird upgraded Perkin
[14:17] from neutral to outperform. And then
[14:20] Westlake Chemical up $1.59. Electric
[14:22] power has been restored to its Lake
[14:24] Charles, Louisiana petrochemical
[14:25] complex.
[14:27] Volume leader Google, up 24 cents on top
[14:30] of a good gain yesterday when UBS
[14:31] boosted its price target from 350 to 375
[14:35] dollars a share. Research In Motion down
[14:37] $2.42. Traded as low as 60 today. A US
[14:40] Appeals Court rejected the company's
[14:42] plea to challenge a ruling that its
[14:43] BlackBerry email device infringed on
[14:46] patents held by NTP Corp. Microsoft down
[14:49] 14 cents. 40 cent loss in Apple
[14:50] Computer. Dell, up 41 cents, fifth in
[14:53] dollar volume. Sandisk was up 84 cents.
[14:56] Intel a 6 cent gain. Amgen did well, up
[14:58] a dollar six. Cisco down a dime. And
[15:00] Qualcomm, tenth in dollar volume, was
[15:02] down 23 cents a share.
[15:04] UTS Starcom, $2.01 loss, about 26 and a
[15:08] quarter percent on the downside on news
[15:10] the SEC is probing the company's
[15:12] financial disclosures. The company did
[15:14] issue a third quarter revenue warning
[15:16] yesterday.
[15:17] And those are the stocks in the news
[15:19] tonight, Jeff.
[15:20] >> Well, Paul, uh
[15:21] from
[15:22] countries, international organizations,
[15:24] and drug makers are in Washington, D.C.
[15:27] today for talks about dealing with a
[15:29] possible spread of avian flu. Currently,
[15:31] the disease is mostly contained to Asia,
[15:33] but as Stephanie Do reports, the Bush
[15:36] administration wants to ensure it does
[15:37] not spread.
[15:39] >> Health officials say the US is not
[15:41] prepared for a bird flu pandemic. There
[15:44] is only one plan in the US making
[15:46] vaccine against the virus known as H5N1,
[15:49] which is believed to cause bird flu.
[15:51] Health and Human Services Secretary
[15:52] Michael Leavitt says the US is working
[15:54] on a comprehensive plan to deal with any
[15:57] potential flu outbreak.
[15:58] >> that this cannot simply be about
[16:00] preparation for H5N1.
[16:03] Uh we don't know if H5N1 virus will
[16:06] become a pandemic or not. What we do
[16:08] know is that someday there will be a
[16:10] pandemic, and our preparation is not
[16:13] adequate, and our purpose is to prepare.
[16:16] >> Years of low profits and manufacturing
[16:18] problems have driven most drug makers
[16:20] from the vaccine business. Current
[16:22] vaccine production uses 50-year-old
[16:24] technology with chicken eggs. Public
[16:26] health advocates say companies need to
[16:28] update their production methods.
[16:30] >> There are
[16:31] other technologies, cell-based
[16:33] technologies, and reverse genetic
[16:34] technologies that companies should be
[16:36] investing in, which would allow them to
[16:39] manufacture vaccine in a far more
[16:41] efficient way and do it year-round,
[16:43] which is something they cannot do right
[16:44] now.
[16:45] >> If there's an outbreak of bird flu in
[16:47] the US, analysts estimate there could be
[16:49] a billion-dollar market for a vaccine,
[16:51] but isolating the specific strains
[16:53] needed would take 6 to 9 months.
[16:55] >> The problem here is not so much as
[16:57] supply. I think there's going to be a
[16:59] lot of supply, particularly within the
[17:00] next year or so. The problem really is
[17:03] knowing what target we're aiming at, and
[17:05] we don't really know yet. That's what's
[17:07] going to take the time.
[17:08] >> Drug companies are also producing flu
[17:10] treatments. The administration is
[17:12] negotiating with the Swiss firm Roche to
[17:14] stockpile of
[17:16] Tamiflu. Individuals are also stocking
[17:18] up on the drug, but Roche warns
[17:20] consumers that Tamiflu sold over the
[17:22] internet could be fake. Stephanie Dhue,
[17:24] Nightly Business Report, Washington.
[17:27] >> Monday, one view of why the White House
[17:30] should be paying its bills.
[17:43] >> [music]
[17:48] [music]
[19:06] [music]
[19:12] >> Well, here's a look at what's happening
[19:13] next week. Our Friday Market Monitor
[19:15] guest is Sam Stovall, Chief Investment
[19:17] Strategist at Standard & Poor's. On the
[19:20] economic calendar, Thursday weekly
[19:21] jobless claims, the August trade gap,
[19:24] and uh September import prices. Friday,
[19:26] September consumer prices, retail sales,
[19:29] and industrial production and capacity
[19:30] utilization. As for earnings, Dow
[19:32] components Alcoa and General Electric
[19:35] report, as do Apple Computer and
[19:37] Harley-Davidson.
[19:43] >> My guest Market Monitor this week is
[19:44] Robert Morrow, editor of the
[19:46] Institutional Advisory Service and
[19:48] publisher of the monthly letter entitled
[19:50] the High-Tech Growth Forecaster. And
[19:52] Bob, welcome back to Nightly Business
[19:53] Report.
[19:54] >> Thank you very much, Paul.
[19:55] >> You've been saying for some time now
[19:56] that the stock market has seen its peak
[19:58] in this cycle and is headed lower. Why
[20:00] are you bearish and how much lower will
[20:02] it go?
[20:03] >> Well, the the numbers that I I had uh
[20:06] were 11,180.
[20:08] >> That was going to be the top.
[20:10] >> That could be the top, and the Nasdaq
[20:11] 2242,
[20:13] and 1267. It got within 1 or 2% of these
[20:16] numbers, and my trend models turned
[20:18] negative. So, from a technical
[20:19] standpoint, I think that we've seen the
[20:21] top of the market.
[20:22] >> How low can we go? And then let's say
[20:24] the Dow.
[20:24] >> The Dow I expect to be about 8700, the
[20:27] Nasdaq 1500.
[20:30] >> 870 you mean on the Dow?
[20:31] >> 870. And uh the S&P 500 would be
[20:35] uh 996.
[20:37] >> Ooh, well you are definitely bearish.
[20:39] And I know your indicators technically
[20:41] are are bearish. What what's What is the
[20:43] worst of them?
[20:44] >> Well,
[20:45] actually it's in I see inflation, I see
[20:48] high PE ratios, I see uh
[20:52] bullish sentiments way too high,
[20:54] complacency. I I think these will all
[20:56] blend into a bubble.
[20:57] >> you know, fundamental bearish things.
[20:58] And your And your all of your indicators
[21:00] technically are also bearish.
[21:02] >> That's right. Cycle and market um um
[21:05] uh pattern recognition.
[21:06] >> So, the fundamentals justify the
[21:08] pessimism of your technical indicator.
[21:10] >> They mesh very nicely now.
[21:11] >> How about a word about interest rates?
[21:13] Are we close to the top?
[21:15] >> Well, I think that we're going to go to
[21:17] uh
[21:18] 4 and 3/4 by the end of the year. I
[21:20] think we're going to see 5 and 1/4, 5
[21:22] and 1/2 in the first quarter of next
[21:24] year.
[21:24] >> Before they pause and then
[21:25] >> Right. And that'd be the 10-year note.
[21:26] >> Okay. And while we're talking about
[21:28] inflationary things, how about oil? Are
[21:30] we near a top?
[21:31] >> I I think we're in a range of 60 to 70.
[21:34] I don't have a better number than that.
[21:36] >> Okay, but uh it's going to stay up there
[21:38] pretty high.
[21:38] >> so.
[21:39] >> You know, on your last visit in late
[21:40] January, you recommended the purchase of
[21:42] three
[21:43] exchange-traded funds. Let's have a look
[21:45] at how they how they've done since then.
[21:47] Look at that energy spider of 36.1% at
[21:51] the beginning of this week before the
[21:52] market tanked, it was doing better,
[21:54] wasn't it?
[21:54] >> Right. 47.3%
[21:56] earlier.
[21:56] >> Wow. It's been a rough week for even
[21:59] energy. Utilities have done nicely. That
[22:01] spider up 17 and 1/2% since late
[22:03] January.
[22:04] >> Right. It is well on to 23.6.
[22:06] >> Mhm. On the plus side. Right on the plus
[22:08] And then there was one other that you
[22:09] had for our viewers last time, and that
[22:11] was the gold ETF.
[22:13] >> Right. I I thought it had a shot at 480
[22:15] this year and it went to 473 so far.
[22:18] >> Okay, so it's on track, so to speak.
[22:20] >> Exactly.
[22:22] >> Exactly.
[22:23] >> Do you have any new recommendations?
[22:25] >> Uh yes, the
[22:26] energy
[22:28] uh spider I still recommend.
[22:29] >> one you liked before.
[22:30] >> Exactly. I still like it. I like the uh
[22:32] utilities.
[22:33] >> Okay. Yeah, that's the same one that you
[22:35] recommended in late January, which has
[22:37] done well.
[22:38] >> And I'm repeating myself again on the
[22:39] gold. I like it, too.
[22:40] >> And the gold as well. Utilities puzzles
[22:43] me if you say interest rates are going
[22:45] to 5 and 1/4 short term, why would you
[22:47] like the utility index?
[22:49] >> I just look at it on a technical
[22:50] standpoint apart from the interest rates
[22:53] and I still think that they'll be a good
[22:55] defensive area to be in.
[22:56] >> Well, you are defensive in the in these
[22:58] different ETFs. Do you have a new new
[23:00] recommendation? You like the same three
[23:02] as you did in January. What about a new
[23:04] one?
[23:04] >> A new one is the consumer staples, the
[23:06] XLP spider.
[23:09] Um this would represent companies like
[23:11] Walmart and Procter & Gamble and
[23:13] Coca-Cola.
[23:14] >> Things that consumers have to buy in
[23:15] order to exist.
[23:16] >> Food, drugs, everything they need to
[23:18] buy.
[23:19] >> Okay, so another defensive issue.
[23:21] >> Right.
[23:22] >> But they've done very well in a rather
[23:24] negative market atmosphere, haven't
[23:25] they? And I guess that's why you like
[23:27] them.
[23:27] >> Right, exactly.
[23:28] >> Okay. And you know, the fourth quarter
[23:30] of most years the
[23:32] tech stocks do well and that's your
[23:34] specialty. You're not recommending any
[23:35] of those.
[23:36] >> Not at this point, but I think after the
[23:37] first quarter of 2006, I'm going to be
[23:40] in on tech in a very heavy way. I think
[23:43] it'll lead the market back in a very
[23:45] substantial way in a new bull market.
[23:46] >> Well, you certainly have given us some
[23:48] good ones like Apple in its heyday
[23:50] recently.
[23:51] Uh do you personally own any of the
[23:52] securities that you're recommending?
[23:54] >> No, I do not.
[23:55] >> Okay. Fair enough. Bob, I want to thank
[23:57] you very much for sharing your insights
[23:59] with us.
[24:00] >> Thank you very much, Paul.
[24:01] >> My guest, Robert Morrow of the
[24:02] Institutional Advisory Service.
[24:05] >> And recapping today's market action,
[24:07] stocks end the week with a day in the
[24:09] black, but not by much. The Dow gains
[24:11] five points, the Nasdaq gains six.
[24:14] To learn more about the stories in
[24:16] tonight's broadcast, go to nbr.com.
[24:20] And finally tonight, there are big
[24:21] houses and then there's David Duffield's
[24:24] house, or at least the house he wants to
[24:25] build. Duffield, you'll recall, made a
[24:27] mint last year selling PeopleSoft to
[24:29] Oracle. Now he wants to use some of the
[24:31] money to build a 72,000 square foot home
[24:34] in a tony suburb of San Francisco.
[24:37] That's 18,000 square feet bigger than
[24:39] the White House, 32,000 square feet
[24:41] bigger than Bill Gates' house, and
[24:43] almost 12,000 square feet bigger than
[24:45] the Hearst Castle at San Simeon. And
[24:48] Paul, that's not all. Duffield also
[24:49] wants 25,000 additional square feet for
[24:52] outbuildings that includes a stable and
[24:54] what, a 20-car underground garage? And
[24:57] the neighbors are not happy about the
[24:58] property.
[24:59] >> I'm not surprised. Trying to keep up
[25:00] with the Duffields is a real challenge.
[25:02] >> Very expensive.
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