NBC Nightly News - 1988-03-30
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[0:00] magazine.
[0:03] >> Attorney General Mi says he won't quit.
[0:05] Jimmy Swagger defies his church and a
[0:08] bloody day on the West Bank in Gaza.
[0:13] >> NBC Nightly News with Tom Bro.
[0:17] >> Good evening. I'm Connie Chung sitting
[0:18] in for Tom Brokaw who is off tonight.
[0:21] Embattled Attorney General Edwin Me
[0:23] tonight is defying all calls for him to
[0:26] resign despite increasing pressure and
[0:28] scathing criticism from not only
[0:30] Democrats on Capitol Hill, but also from
[0:32] some members of his own party. President
[0:35] Reagan today stood behind his friend of
[0:37] 20 years. But as NBC's White House
[0:39] correspondent Chris Wallace reports, Mie
[0:41] is now fending off mounting attacks
[0:44] sparked by yesterday's dramatic
[0:45] resignation of two senior Justice
[0:47] Department officials.
[0:49] It was a determined Edmise who met with
[0:51] reporters late today, making it clear he
[0:53] won't be forced out by the resignation
[0:55] of top aids.
[0:57] >> Are you thinking about calling quit,
[0:58] sir?
[0:58] >> No, not at all. There's no reason to.
[1:00] The management team is very strong and
[1:02] everything's going along well. So, uh,
[1:04] business is is operating as usual at the
[1:06] Justice Department.
[1:07] >> But Misa's statement did nothing to
[1:09] silence the steady drum beat of calls
[1:11] for the attorney general to step down.
[1:13] On Capitol Hill, Democrats attacked with
[1:15] a vengeance. If the top people in
[1:17] justice no longer trust Mr. Me, how can
[1:20] the American people?
[1:21] >> I think it's only a matter of time
[1:24] u before the attorney general uh will
[1:26] leave office.
[1:27] >> Senate Majority Leader Bird was even
[1:29] tougher, calling me the crown jewel of
[1:31] the sleeves factor in Reagan
[1:32] administration history. And Republicans
[1:35] were also dismayed by the spectacle of
[1:37] conservative me appointees suddenly
[1:39] bailing out. The real issue is whether
[1:43] the Justice Department can fulfill its
[1:45] function and do its job.
[1:47] >> But me continues to have support where
[1:49] it counts. The president making it clear
[1:51] he has no intention of asking the
[1:52] attorney general to leave.
[1:54] >> I have every confidence in him. He's
[1:55] been a friend for 20 years and I'm not
[1:58] going to comment any further on what is
[2:00] going on there.
[2:00] >> Reagan aid say the president's support
[2:02] is rock hard. But despite yesterday's
[2:04] resignation by conservatives, Mr. Reagan
[2:07] believes the opposition is basically
[2:09] political. Reagan sees Edm as a
[2:12] fellow conservative, a soulmate. And
[2:15] finally, Reagan sees Edm as a target, as
[2:18] as a as a victim from some of the same
[2:21] people who are heaping abuse on Ed me
[2:23] are also the president's enemies.
[2:25] >> Still, some of the president's men say
[2:27] privately they'd love to see me go and
[2:29] hope the attorney general will give in
[2:31] to the mounting pressure, removing a
[2:32] tough issue for Republicans in the 88
[2:34] campaign. Today, Democratic candidate
[2:37] Jesse Jackson condemned
[2:38] >> the growing sleas fact in this
[2:40] administration with uh Mr. Me going back
[2:43] and forth to court every day as a
[2:44] defendant as opposed to a prosecutor.
[2:46] >> And Vice President Bush, who has already
[2:48] said he's tired of being embarrassed by
[2:50] government scandals, did not sound happy
[2:52] about Misa's latest troubles.
[2:54] >> It seems to me that the Justice
[2:55] Department has to be above reproach. It
[2:59] it troubles me. No question about that.
[3:03] Me came to the White House late today to
[3:05] meet with Chief of Staff Howard Baker.
[3:07] But officials here say they discuss
[3:08] routine business, not Meis's troubles,
[3:11] and that unless he's indicted, Me will
[3:13] stay on. Connie,
[3:16] >> thank you, Chris. Edwin Me has been
[3:17] reeling in controversy ever since he
[3:19] first came to Washington. As NBC's law
[3:22] correspondent Carl Stern reports, it is
[3:24] one man in particular who has been at
[3:26] the root of his latest troubles. Carl
[3:29] >> Connie, when criminal division chief
[3:30] William Weld quit yesterday, he told
[3:32] staff members privately, his first
[3:34] reason was the attorney general's
[3:37] relationship with Bob Wallak.
[3:39] >> It is Mis's friends who have gotten him
[3:41] into trouble, not his enemies. Mis's
[3:44] dealings with University of California
[3:45] Law School classmate E. Robert Wallak is
[3:47] his biggest problem. According to
[3:49] Justice Department officials, it was
[3:51] Wallak who allegedly used his friendship
[3:53] with me to get contracts for and money
[3:56] from the scandalridden Wedtech
[3:57] corporation. Me at Wallak's request
[4:00] promoted an Iraqi oil pipeline deal,
[4:02] even though a note to me implied that
[4:04] illegal bribes might be paid. And Wallak
[4:07] set out to raise money for Me himself,
[4:09] including a stock account that me knew
[4:11] was growing faster than his own share
[4:13] could reasonably generate. Special
[4:16] prosecutor James McKay regarded that as
[4:18] a possible bribe. McKay has been within
[4:20] an inch of seeking Mis's indictment for
[4:22] that, according to officials. Meanwhile,
[4:25] the attorney general's wife is being
[4:27] investigated in connection with a
[4:28] $40,000 a year job as a development
[4:31] director with the Multiple Sclerosis
[4:32] Society. Investigators want to know
[4:35] whether the salary is being subsidized
[4:36] by Mis's friends and a contractor who
[4:39] may have done business with the Justice
[4:41] Department. A lawyer for the foundation
[4:43] that employs Ursula says it's all
[4:45] perfectly proper.
[4:47] >> She could have gotten many jobs in this
[4:50] town without any difficulty at all, but
[4:53] MS wanted her because of her experience
[4:55] in this field and her record as a good
[4:58] worker.
[4:59] >> Me has been in trouble since his
[5:00] confirmation was delayed more than a
[5:02] year while a special prosecutor
[5:04] investigated complaints that Me found
[5:06] government jobs for people who had
[5:08] helped him out of personal financial
[5:09] scrapes. Independent council Jacob Stein
[5:12] declined to prosecute, but said he would
[5:14] not comment on Mis's ethics, propriety,
[5:16] or fitness for office. Since then, Mis
[5:19] has also been in hot water for failing
[5:21] to fill out financial disclosure forms
[5:23] properly, failing to get rid of stock he
[5:25] was supposed to, and according to some,
[5:27] giving Oliver North time to shred vital
[5:30] evidence in the Iran Contra scandal.
[5:32] Those who quit yesterday said the
[5:34] cumulative weight of all this had just
[5:37] become too much. Connie
[5:39] >> Carl, thank you. Later on NBC Nightly
[5:42] News, John Chancellor will have some
[5:43] thoughts about Ed Me and the man he
[5:45] works for and Robert Bazelle's special
[5:48] segment. Is alcoholism really a disease?
[5:52] >> Your daughter's wedding
[5:53] >> at last.
[5:54] >> And you've got dirty dentures.
[5:56] >> I just soaked them.
[5:57] >> Soaking's not enough. Brushing with
[5:59] denture cream denture toothpaste cleans
[6:01] almost twice as clean.
[6:02] >> Twice as clean.
[6:03] >> Brush with denture cream or denture gel.
[6:07] Does car shopping confuse you? If you've
[6:10] shopped, and I have, you'll find the one
[6:12] place where the confusion ends is your
[6:14] Buick dealer. That's why I just bought a
[6:16] brand new Buick Regal. Regal is actually
[6:18] priced under T-Ird and Cougar. The new
[6:21] Regal just looks like it costs thousands
[6:23] more. So, don't get confused. Shop where
[6:26] you like, but start at your Buick
[6:28] dealer. The car is regal, but the price
[6:30] sure isn't
[6:32] >> great.
[6:36] This Easter you can send flowers in
[6:38] another green glass vase or send
[6:41] something worth keeping. Teleaf flora's
[6:43] ceramic spring basket bouquet. Gorgeous
[6:46] flowers in a charming ceramic basket. To
[6:48] send one anywhere, just call your
[6:49] florist and say, "Tell flora."
[6:53] Jimmy Swagard has decided to defy the
[6:55] national leaders of the Assemblies of
[6:57] God church one day after they barred him
[6:59] from preaching for at least one year. As
[7:02] NBC's Kenley Jones reports, Swagger
[7:04] plans to resume preaching only 3 months
[7:06] from the February day he stepped down
[7:08] from the pulpit after confessing what he
[7:10] called a moral failure.
[7:13] >> His he is anticipating being in the
[7:15] pulpit on May the 22nd. That's correct.
[7:17] >> Swagger's lawyer, William Tribe, said
[7:19] the evangelist's decision is based on
[7:22] the belief that his fellow ministers in
[7:24] Louisiana had the authority to suspend
[7:26] him for 3 months instead of a year. So
[7:29] you have a question of the proper
[7:30] interpretation of the constitution and
[7:32] bylaws.
[7:33] >> But last year there was no question in
[7:35] Swagger's mind about what punishment Jim
[7:37] Baker should be given for sexual
[7:39] misconduct.
[7:40] >> Well, with anyone and these symptoms of
[7:42] God has nothing to do with Jim Baker.
[7:43] It's with anyone myself, whomever it may
[7:45] be. Our rulings are that he place
[7:49] himself if he wants rehabilitation. He
[7:51] places himself under or he is placed
[7:54] under another minister. He does not
[7:56] preach for the period of a year.
[7:58] >> If um Jimmy Swagger is not able to
[8:01] preach for a year, obviously the
[8:04] ministry is built around him and the
[8:06] ministry would certainly suffer.
[8:08] >> The ministry has already suffered. More
[8:11] than 100 employees have been laid off
[8:13] and all construction at the complex
[8:15] stopped because of uncertainty over the
[8:17] ministry's future.
[8:19] >> I would like for you to sit down and do
[8:20] the very best that you can do
[8:22] financially. I want you to write the
[8:25] largest check that you can.
[8:27] >> Swagert's son, Donnie, has made
[8:28] fundraising appeals on the ministry's
[8:30] television program while his father has
[8:32] been absent, but the audience appeal of
[8:34] the program is questionable without the
[8:36] elder Swagard's presence. He needs to
[8:39] get back on the air as soon as possible.
[8:41] Swagard's problem is that television
[8:43] stations may not be anxious to carry the
[8:45] program if he withdraws or is expelled
[8:48] from the Assemblies of God church. uh he
[8:50] should not be on the air uh May 22nd. I
[8:54] my feeling is that he should have
[8:56] submitted himself to the uh the decision
[8:59] of the Assemblies of God.
[9:04] >> Swagger says the ministry is not his but
[9:06] God's. He says he has faith that it will
[9:09] survive no matter what. Kenley Jones,
[9:11] NBC News.
[9:14] With the solid victory of Michael
[9:15] Dukakus over Jesse Jackson in
[9:17] Connecticut's primary, Dukakus has
[9:19] pulled ahead in the delegate count. Even
[9:21] though he has not pushed Jackson out of
[9:23] the spotlight, the NBC News delegate
[9:25] count shows Dukakus with 676
[9:29] to Jesse Jackson 652. On Monday, they
[9:32] were tied. Albert Gore is third with 369
[9:36] delegates and Paul Simon has 187.
[9:39] Today, Jackson met in Washington with 50
[9:41] of the party's top leaders at his
[9:43] request. He talked about his campaign
[9:46] and his plans for a Jackson
[9:47] administration. And as NBC's Ken Bod
[9:50] reports tonight, the party leaders
[9:52] listened to what he had to say
[9:54] respectfully.
[9:56] >> Jackson is seeking to raise what he
[9:58] calls the comfort level of the
[9:59] Washington Democratic establishment,
[10:01] which is nervous at the prospect that he
[10:03] might be nominated. It's also to get
[10:05] more support and uh and more help in
[10:09] critical policy areas. After all, I'm
[10:11] preparing to to govern. Today's meeting
[10:14] included members of previous Democratic
[10:16] administrations from Truman to Carter.
[10:18] Among those invited, former Secretary of
[10:20] Defense Clark Clifford, a pillar of the
[10:22] Washington establishment. Not all
[10:25] supporters. Jackson characterized some
[10:27] as advisers, others just came to listen.
[10:30] Some experienced and skeptical Democrats
[10:32] say the press and his opponents have
[10:34] been treating Jackson too gingerly.
[10:36] >> He has not been asked uh the tough
[10:39] questions. What what did he mean when he
[10:41] said Viva Castro? Viva Java. To my
[10:44] judgment, he has never even backed off
[10:45] of his support for Louis Farrakan.
[10:48] >> Others have suggested that Jackson's
[10:49] past won't bear scrutiny. Former
[10:51] Democratic chairman John White, who has
[10:53] signed on to help with Jackson's
[10:55] convention operations, addressed that.
[10:57] You can vote against Jesse Jackson
[10:59] because you don't agree with his
[11:00] positions,
[11:02] but you shouldn't vote against him for
[11:04] some heddup reason that he's got
[11:06] something in the past that we don't know
[11:08] about. Because if he's got anything in
[11:10] his past, it would be in front of us
[11:12] now.
[11:13] >> Warming up for next month's New York
[11:14] primary, where he will portray Jackson's
[11:16] Middle East policies as outside the
[11:18] party's mainstream. Albert Gourd Jr.
[11:21] nominated himself as the man to take off
[11:23] the gloves on Jackson
[11:25] >> government. He hasn't served a single
[11:26] day in the national government uh or had
[11:30] a single day's experience in foreign
[11:32] policy.
[11:33] >> Gore's charge of inexperience made its
[11:36] way to Jackson's meeting.
[11:37] >> Reverend Jackson can bring to his
[11:41] administration, should it turn out to be
[11:44] a Jackson administration, the best
[11:46] brains that the party and the country
[11:49] have to offer. Clifford made it clear he
[11:52] has not endorsed Jackson, but has been
[11:54] talking about defense policy with him
[11:55] for some time.
[11:56] >> I haven't uh been particularly surprised
[12:00] by any position that I've read about in
[12:02] his attitude toward defense.
[12:05] >> Times are changing for Jesse Jackson. As
[12:07] a serious potential nominee, his
[12:09] policies, his background, his experience
[12:12] will undergo a greater scrutiny. Jackson
[12:15] hopes to use the attention he has now to
[12:17] cross a threshold of acceptability
[12:18] within the Washington beltway where in
[12:20] some precincts there is still abject
[12:22] fear that his nomination would cause
[12:24] defeat for the Democrats from the White
[12:26] House through the Congress to the
[12:28] courouses. Ken Bod, NBC News,
[12:30] Washington.
[12:32] >> It was 20 years ago that members of the
[12:34] Kerner Commission wrote a report saying
[12:36] the United States was moving toward two
[12:38] separate but unequal societies, one
[12:41] black, the other white. Today in
[12:43] Memphis, four members of the commission
[12:45] had a reunion and they agreed that after
[12:47] 20 years, that conclusion holds true
[12:50] today.
[12:52] In North Carolina, Honda lawnmowers are
[12:55] assembled from the wheels up, then the
[12:57] final critical step, the Clara Johnson
[13:00] test. If Clara pulls and it starts, it's
[13:04] a Honda.
[13:05] >> Ship it.
[13:07] I can't marry you.
[13:09] >> Why? I'm only 6 years younger. Oh, I
[13:11] don't care about that.
[13:12] >> What do you care about? My hair, my tie,
[13:15] >> your breakfast.
[13:16] >> This?
[13:17] >> Yeah, it's oldfashioned.
[13:19] >> Hey, I'm an old guy.
[13:20] >> All those years of sugar and
[13:21] preservatives.
[13:24] >> You're right.
[13:24] >> Neutrorain whole wheat flakes. No sugar
[13:26] added, no preservatives.
[13:29] >> That's good. Now, will you marry me?
[13:31] >> I thought you were 5 years younger.
[13:34] >> Dedicated to the
[13:36] >> Walter. This is mother.
[13:41] Mother wants to use the phone. Fine.
[13:44] Right there.
[13:46] >> Second class. They're making
[13:50] phones. Oh, that silly phone. Use our
[13:53] AT&T phone in there.
[13:56] >> For phones that work like phones are
[13:58] supposed to work. Stick with the first
[14:00] class phones of AT&T.
[14:02] >> It's okay. It works.
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[14:09] spices, and fruit meant just for
[14:11] chicken.
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[14:19] chicken any way you make it.
[14:22] >> A bloody day of protest on the occupied
[14:25] West Bank and Gaza Strip. Four
[14:27] Palestinians were killed, 50 wounded.
[14:29] NBC's Martin Fletcher reports on today's
[14:31] widespread demonstrations.
[14:35] The toughest ever Israeli clampdown on
[14:37] the occupied territories didn't work.
[14:39] The day's violence ended with one of the
[14:41] uprising's highest tolls of dead and
[14:43] wounded on the Gaza Strip. These are the
[14:46] only pictures available because Israel
[14:48] closed the area to all reporters except
[14:50] those escorted by the army. No Arab was
[14:53] allowed to leave his house. Arrest
[14:56] continued, a thousand in the past week,
[14:58] many without charges. the aim to stop
[15:02] widespread violence by Palestinian Arabs
[15:04] in support of Israeli Arabs who held a
[15:06] general strike today and widespread
[15:09] demonstrations of their own. For the
[15:11] Israeli Arabs, it's land day, a protest
[15:13] against Israeli confiscation of Arab
[15:15] land 12 years ago. And this year,
[15:18] they're supporting the Palestinian
[15:19] uprising. There's been a debate among
[15:22] Israeli Arabs for weeks about how to
[15:24] demonstrate in support of the uprising,
[15:26] peacefully or violently.
[15:30] The young wanted violence to support
[15:32] openly the PLO with the PLO flag. Older
[15:35] Arabs forced the young to obey Israeli
[15:37] laws. Israeli Arabs live a dilemma.
[15:40] >> You know, it's difficult to live the two
[15:44] kinds of life. We must feel like them.
[15:46] We must go with them. We must uh uh cry
[15:50] and support them. Another blow to the
[15:52] Palestinian movement came today when
[15:54] police closed the Palestinian press
[15:56] service for 6 months, silencing an
[15:58] alternative source of information from
[16:00] the occupied lands. Gula Cohen has long
[16:03] called for limiting press freedom.
[16:05] >> I'm not for freedom of the press. I'm
[16:07] for the freedom of Israel.
[16:11] >> Support is increasing in Israel for
[16:13] tougher measures to end the uprising.
[16:15] Martin Fletcher, NBC News, Tyber,
[16:18] Israel.
[16:19] Israel's ambassador to the United
[16:21] Nations, Benjamin Netanyahu, resigned
[16:23] today. He said the AmericanIsraeli
[16:25] alliance, often demonstrated at the
[16:27] United Nations, had been shaken.
[16:29] Netanyahu cited a meeting last Saturday
[16:32] between Secretary of State George
[16:33] Schultz and two American Palestinians.
[16:36] He said that meeting effectively
[16:38] breached a US commitment not to
[16:39] negotiate with the PLO.
[16:42] Sources in Panama tell NBC News that the
[16:45] government of General Manuel Noriega has
[16:47] just received a muchneeded infusion of
[16:49] $5 million in cash. The money, taxes,
[16:52] and other fees came as routine payments
[16:54] from American corporations. Noriega used
[16:57] the money to pay the army and civil
[16:59] servants. In Panama, supermarkets
[17:02] reopened today, the first major break in
[17:04] a 10-day old general strike aimed at
[17:06] forcing Noriega to resign. The
[17:08] opposition said the strike would
[17:10] continue against other businesses, but
[17:12] more economic relief is in sight. Banks
[17:14] are scheduled to reopen for limited
[17:16] withdrawals in 9 days.
[17:19] In Washington, the House of
[17:20] Representatives tonight approved a $ 48
[17:23] million package of non-lethal aid for
[17:25] the Nicaraguan Contress. It was
[17:27] described as a show of support for last
[17:29] week's temporary truce and for talks to
[17:31] achieve a permanent ceasefire. The vote
[17:33] was 345 to 70. And the Senate Foreign
[17:36] Relations Committee today recommended
[17:38] full Senate ratification of the Soviet
[17:40] American Treaty on medium-range
[17:42] missiles. The committee vote was 17 to2
[17:45] with Helms of North Carolina and
[17:47] Pressler of South Dakota voting against.
[17:50] Senate debate on the treaty is scheduled
[17:51] to begin in midappril.
[18:00] >> Come on. Got a lot of eggs there.
[18:03] >> Oh, you know what I always say. Easter
[18:05] ain't Easter without eggs.
[18:08] >> Just look at this day. This will be a
[18:10] real great Easter.
[18:11] >> Smoke all these yourself.
[18:12] >> You know what I always say? Easter ain't
[18:14] Easter without a ham? Hey, didn't I put
[18:16] my eggs there?
[18:18] >> That's the FTD Easter Basket Bouquet.
[18:20] >> Real nice. You know what I always say?
[18:22] >> Easter ain't Easter without flowers.
[18:25] >> The FTD Easter Basket Bouquet. Bright
[18:27] spring flowers in a colorful Easter
[18:29] basket. These mountains exist only in a
[18:32] computer. They were created from nothing
[18:34] but numbers using a special kind of
[18:37] mathematics called fractal geometry.
[18:39] Developed at IBM Research, fractals give
[18:42] scientists a new way to look at nature
[18:45] to study longrange pollution patterns or
[18:47] explore the Earth's oil reserves.
[18:49] Fractal geometry, another innovation
[18:52] from IBM that helps people understand
[18:55] how the world adds up.
[19:00] Mom sure know how to make life easier.
[19:03] Mine was always there for me. Like
[19:05] another mom I know. This mom. Philips
[19:08] Milk of Magnesia. M O M. The laxative
[19:12] that helps your body work naturally for
[19:14] easy overnight relief. Would mom be
[19:17] harsh? No. And mom's even easier to take
[19:20] with this dosage cup. See, mom knows
[19:23] just what you need. So, when you run
[19:24] into trouble,
[19:26] remember, nobody treats you better than
[19:29] mom.
[19:30] >> How many days a week do you take it?
[19:32] >> I take aspirin twice a week. I have a
[19:34] touch of arthritis, so I take it often.
[19:36] >> My doctor told me to take aspirin.
[19:38] >> For the millions who take aspirin more
[19:40] than once a week and are concerned about
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[19:57] aspirin more than once a week.
[20:01] >> Since President Reagan took office, 59
[20:03] administration officials have resigned
[20:05] after being linked to scandals. They
[20:07] were among more than 110 senior
[20:10] administration officials who have been
[20:11] accused of unethical or illegal
[20:14] activities. So, Attorney General Edwin
[20:16] Meis may not be unique, but as John
[20:18] Chancellor notes in his commentary
[20:19] tonight, Me's relationship with the
[20:21] president is John.
[20:23] >> Connie, you know, you can understand why
[20:25] Ronald Reagan is standing by Ed Me.
[20:27] They're old friends. It is much harder
[20:30] to understand why Ed me is sticking to
[20:32] Ronald Reagan. Much harder to understand
[20:34] why one old friend would do so much
[20:36] damage to another. The final months of
[20:38] the Reagan administration are being
[20:40] dishonored by Ed Mis's continuing
[20:42] troubles. It's a terrible embarrassment
[20:44] and some people close to both the
[20:46] president and me are saddened by it. The
[20:49] San Diego Union is a powerful newspaper
[20:51] which has always been a friend of Ronald
[20:53] Reagan's. Last month it said, "Given the
[20:55] dismal litany of poor judgment and
[20:57] ethically questionable activities
[20:59] disclosed by current and previous
[21:01] investigations, how can Mr. Meis
[21:03] continue to carry out his duties
[21:05] effectively even if he is exonerated of
[21:07] any criminal misconduct? Would not the
[21:10] president and the nation be served by
[21:12] Mr. Me is stepping down. When a paper as
[21:14] supportive of Mr. Reagan as the San
[21:16] Diego Union says that, you've got to pay
[21:18] attention. Yet there sits Ed Me. The
[21:22] president is being humiliated. The
[21:23] Justice Department is being destroyed.
[21:26] And the Democrats have a campaign issue
[21:28] against the Republicans, which will last
[21:29] all year. Ed me owes his whole career to
[21:33] the loyalty of his old friend, Ronald
[21:34] Reagan. There is one last thing he could
[21:36] do for his benefactor. He could resign
[21:39] now before the law works its way through
[21:41] his tangled affairs. That gift from an
[21:44] old pal would give the president some
[21:46] peace in his final months of office.
[21:50] >> Oh, look at the time. I got to get some
[21:53] Z's.
[21:54] >> Nightall will help you get your Z's.
[21:57] >> Nighthall helps you feel drowsy so you
[21:59] can get your Z's.
[22:01] >> Nightall will help you get your Z's.
[22:05] There's a big company that makes these
[22:07] and a small one that makes these. Why
[22:09] would they both do business with IBM?
[22:11] Well, the company that makes these wants
[22:14] a computer company big enough to get
[22:15] them where they want to go. Bone voyage,
[22:17] kiddo. And the company that makes these
[22:19] needs a company with an eye for the
[22:20] smallest details. Small businesses have
[22:23] big reasons for calling IBM. Big
[22:25] businesses even have small reasons to
[22:27] call IBM.
[22:29] But smart businesses have every reason
[22:30] to call IBM.
[22:32] IBM the bigger picture.
[22:36] >> I'm Brian Gumble. Tomorrow morning on
[22:38] today we'll check out the Justice
[22:39] Department problems of Ed Me.
[22:40] >> I'm Maria Shrivever. Also Sophia Lauren
[22:42] and do me more.
[22:43] >> Join us tomorrow morning on Today.
[22:47] I've been writing a lot of stories about
[22:48] aspirin lately. But if you think you've
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[23:11] >> a better aspirin formula.
[23:15] >> What's the best kind of fruit? The kind
[23:17] that's fresh, moist, and plump. That's
[23:20] why sunsweet are my favorite kind of
[23:22] pitted prunes. Moist, plump, and fresh.
[23:26] Sunsweet because the best prunes are
[23:28] fresh prunes.
[23:31] On special segment tonight, alcoholism.
[23:34] Is it a disease? If not, what is it? For
[23:37] 30 years, alcoholism has been widely
[23:39] considered a disease in the United
[23:41] States. But some experts disagree, and
[23:44] the issue even has been raised in a case
[23:46] now before the Supreme Court. NBC's
[23:48] Robert Bazelle examines the scientific
[23:50] evidence in a controversy that could
[23:52] affect the treatment of many of the
[23:54] nation's 10 million alcoholics.
[23:56] >> He throws it away. Chris Mullen plays
[23:58] basketball for the Golden State
[23:59] Warriors. After alcoholism threatened
[24:02] his career, he talked about the
[24:04] difficulty of entering treatment. I
[24:06] learned now that it was mostly my
[24:07] disease speaking. All the negative
[24:09] points was my disease telling me not to
[24:11] go.
[24:11] >> The disease is a family disease.
[24:14] >> Actress Suzanne Summers on the Donghue
[24:16] show introduced her father, sister, and
[24:19] two brothers as recovered alcoholics.
[24:21] This disease tried to ruin this family
[24:23] and it individually tried to kill
[24:24] everyone who's sitting here and almost
[24:26] succeeded.
[24:27] >> The idea that alcoholism is a disease as
[24:29] opposed to problem behavior is
[24:31] widespread in the United States. The
[24:34] American Medical Association called it a
[24:35] disease in 1956.
[24:38] But a small but growing number of
[24:39] researchers say it is not. And they say
[24:42] that calling it a disease may be
[24:43] harmful. The idea that alcohol can take
[24:46] control of your body no matter what you
[24:49] do, no matter what choices you make, can
[24:51] be a self-fulfilling prophecy and can
[24:53] make it more likely that this will
[24:54] occur.
[24:56] >> Alcoholics. May I help you?
[24:58] >> Much of the American view that
[25:00] alcoholism is a disease comes from
[25:02] Alcoholics Anonymous.
[25:04] >> Well, you're not a bad person. You're a
[25:06] sick person. You want to be well person.
[25:08] >> There has never been scientific proof
[25:10] that alcoholism is caused by some
[25:12] malfunction of the body. Several studies
[25:14] have suggested there is an inherited
[25:16] factor that makes some people more
[25:18] susceptible to alcoholism.
[25:20] >> If the risk for alcoholism in men in the
[25:22] general population is about 10%, then
[25:24] the risk for sons of alcoholics is
[25:27] perhaps as high as 40ish%. In his
[25:29] laboratory, Dr. Shucket is trying to
[25:31] find out what might be inherited to put
[25:34] some people at higher risk of
[25:35] alcoholism. Young men, some the sons of
[25:38] alcoholics, drink measured amounts of
[25:40] alcohol, then perform a series of tasks.
[25:43] Shucket says the sons of alcoholics have
[25:45] a different response than the others.
[25:47] >> It appears as if they're not feeling as
[25:49] much effective booze.
[25:52] >> Shucket and other scientists say that
[25:54] while this genetic evidence indicates
[25:56] alcoholism might be a disease, it does
[25:59] not prove it. In many countries,
[26:01] alcoholism is not considered a disease.
[26:04] Many British doctors say it is more a
[26:05] matter of choice.
[26:07] >> It's a bit like cigarette smoking. We
[26:09] don't consider cigarette smoking a
[26:10] disease. We know that cigarette smoking
[26:13] and dependence on cigarettes can cause
[26:15] lung cancer, can cause a bronchitis, can
[26:18] cause heart attacks. But we don't say
[26:20] that people have got cigarettitis in the
[26:22] way that we say that people have got
[26:24] alcoholism.
[26:25] >> Treating alcoholics in the United States
[26:27] has become a big business. At St.
[26:30] Joseph's Hospital in Burbank,
[26:31] California. Patients are charged $12,000
[26:35] for a 4-week course of alcoholism
[26:37] treatment, which includes exercises,
[26:39] psychotherapy, and lectures, usually
[26:41] insurance pays. This billion dollar a
[26:44] year industry could shrink drastically
[26:46] if alcoholism were not regarded as a
[26:48] disease. Proponents of the disease
[26:50] approach say such a change would
[26:52] discourage alcoholics who need treatment
[26:54] from getting it. If you view this thing
[26:56] as a moral matter u and approach it as
[26:59] though you are blaming somebody or
[27:02] finding them guilty of some act some
[27:05] criminal act that this the practical
[27:08] effect of this in the real world is to
[27:10] stiffen their resistance to getting
[27:12] well.
[27:13] >> This is a group of compulsive shoppers.
[27:15] The idea that problem behavior can be a
[27:17] disease has spread recently from
[27:19] alcoholism to many other areas.
[27:22] Compulsive gamblers have created a mo an
[27:24] organization modeled exactly on the
[27:26] basis of AA. People get up and say I'm
[27:29] out of control of my gambling and I've
[27:30] got a disease. So my question is is that
[27:32] inherited? Um should that be treated
[27:35] medically? So a major part of the debate
[27:37] about alcoholism is if it is considered
[27:39] a disease, what other behavior should
[27:42] also be considered diseases and at what
[27:45] cost to society?
[27:47] Robert Bazelle, NBC News, New York.
[27:51] And that's our news. I'm Connie Chung in
[27:53] New York. I'll see you again tomorrow
[27:54] night. Thank you for joining us. And for
[27:56] all of us at NBC News, good night.
[28:15] Tonight
[28:28] on Aaron's Way, Aaron wants a driver's
[28:30] license. The problem is
[28:31] >> I do not have any identification.
[28:32] >> How do people know who you are?
[28:33] >> I tell them that I am Aaron Bell.
[28:36] >> Then on a special Highway to Heaven, Bob
[28:37] the Angel Hope guest stars. Going be a
[28:39] tough assignment. You're the angel. Wing
[28:41] it. And the Bronx premieres at its new
[28:43] night in time to end an exciting evening
[28:45] of drama tonight.