CNN - Republican National Convention - 2000-08-01 (partial)
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[0:00] from the August 3rd Democratic primary.
[0:03] >> CNN, America's campaign headquarters.
[0:14] From the deck of the most decorated
[0:16] battleship in US naval history, a
[0:19] decorated general, Norman Schwarzoff,
[0:21] will tell Republican delegates the state
[0:23] of national defense.
[0:26] Inside the hall in Philadelphia, the
[0:28] party faithful gets set to hear from the
[0:31] conductor of the Straight Talk Express.
[0:35] Tonight from Philadelphia, the 37th
[0:38] Republican National Convention, 2,000
[0:41] delegates, 10,000 volunteers, and 15,000
[0:45] media members have converged on the
[0:48] cradle of American democracy for the
[0:50] nomination of the GOP candidates for
[0:53] president and vice president of the
[0:55] United States. In this grand old city,
[0:58] the grand old party of Lincoln,
[1:01] Eisenhower, and Reagan starts its quest
[1:04] for the White House, led by a man with
[1:07] Texas roots and a president's name. Now,
[1:10] from Philadelphia's First Union Center,
[1:13] here are CNN's Bernard Shaw, Judy
[1:16] Woodruff, and Jeff Greenfield.
[1:21] And welcome on this night number two.
[1:23] Judy Jeff, Republicans have been
[1:25] maintaining that the Clinton Gore
[1:27] administration under that
[1:28] administration, national defense has
[1:30] weakened.
[1:31] >> That's right. And the theme tonight, you
[1:33] might say it's a little bit wordy, but
[1:35] what they're calling it strength and
[1:36] security with a purpose, safe in our
[1:39] homes and in the world. But it's the
[1:41] world that they're mainly focusing on
[1:42] tonight.
[1:43] >> It is the world they're focusing on, but
[1:44] with a decided subtext. Two of them, I
[1:47] would suggest. We're going to hear
[1:48] tonight from proh George W. Bush's
[1:51] principal foreign policy adviser,
[1:53] Condisa Rice, associated with the last
[1:55] Republican administration, not so
[1:57] incidentally, a relatively young
[1:59] African-American woman, not the sort of
[2:01] face we associate with defense and
[2:02] policy. And then they're going to look,
[2:04] I would suggest, back back to the
[2:06] primary season, because they are
[2:07] featuring Senator John McCain, who
[2:09] provided the most interesting storyline
[2:12] of this election year with his straight
[2:14] talk express and his shocking New
[2:16] Hampshire victory. And yes, John McCain
[2:18] will be talking about the world, the
[2:19] challenges, patriotism, sacrifice, but
[2:21] he is also telling the delegates and
[2:23] more importantly America. I am
[2:25] wholeheartedly with George W. Bush a
[2:27] message the Bush campaign is, one might
[2:29] say, more than happy to hear.
[2:32] >> That's right. Because he gave him a
[2:33] healthy challenge. He was in there,
[2:35] scared him mightily in New Hampshire. As
[2:37] Jeff points out, Michigan was another
[2:40] scare. I mean, there are several states
[2:41] down there where a majority of the
[2:43] delegates were originally for John
[2:44] McCain.
[2:45] >> Indeed. Also on the floor, still
[2:48] reverberating the words heard last night
[2:50] from among other people, former Army
[2:53] General Coen Powell, former chairman of
[2:55] the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Let's check
[2:57] in with our correspondents first to the
[2:59] podium, Wolf Blitzer. The mood on the
[3:01] floor and the mood based on last night's
[3:04] There's no doubt, Bernie, that everyone
[3:06] here is energized. They're pumped up.
[3:09] They smell victory. They think uh it
[3:11] it's going to be a big success and
[3:13] they're energized in part in perhaps in
[3:15] large part because of the message
[3:17] delivered by General Powell last night.
[3:19] He spoke for some 25 minutes. He was
[3:22] very very warmly received enthusiastics
[3:24] enthusiastically received and uh people
[3:27] all over this convention whether very
[3:29] very conservative uh uh Republicans or
[3:32] more moderate Republicans, they seem
[3:35] pumped. They seem ready to go.
[3:36] organizers here say that they got their
[3:39] point across to the millions of
[3:40] Americans uh who were watching on
[3:42] television last night. They're
[3:44] encouraged by the numbers they're
[3:45] getting and how many people actually
[3:47] watch the speeches and watch at least
[3:49] part of this Republican convention
[3:51] because this so-called new face of the
[3:53] Republican party, the outreach to
[3:55] minorities, African-Americans, Latinos,
[3:58] and others seems to be exactly the
[4:00] message that they wanted to project.
[4:02] Let's go to the floor and our senior
[4:04] political correspondent Candi Crowley
[4:06] for more reaction. Candi,
[4:08] >> no one was happier about the speech from
[4:10] Coen Powell than George W. Bush on route
[4:13] here uh through six swing states. Uh
[4:16] Bush was asked about the speech this
[4:17] morning. Uh he noted that both he and
[4:20] Powell had talked in the morning before
[4:22] the speech and when Coen Powell told
[4:25] Bush uh what he would say, Bush said,
[4:27] "Please do." Uh so this speech came with
[4:30] the express permission and approval of
[4:32] George W. Bush which is not to say that
[4:34] on the specifics Bush agrees with Coen
[4:37] Powell particularly on affirmative
[4:38] action. Uh Powell who made a very strong
[4:41] statement about the Republican party
[4:43] criticizing it for its criticism of
[4:45] affirmative action. Uh Bush prefers the
[4:48] term affirmative access. Uh the best
[4:50] example they give of that is that in
[4:52] Texas schools, in high school, the top
[4:54] 10% in any high school class is
[4:57] guaranteed admission to a Texas state
[4:59] school. As a matter of fact, the Bush
[5:02] campaign doesn't even mind that it
[5:03] disagrees with Coen Powell on
[5:05] affirmative action, at least in the
[5:07] specifics, nor does it ma matter that
[5:10] they disagree with him on abortion. In
[5:11] fact, they believe that Powell was
[5:13] up here speaking about these issues,
[5:15] only proves the point that this is a big
[5:17] tenth party. None of my colleague Frank
[5:19] says no.
[5:20] >> Reaction within the African-American
[5:22] community is decidedly mixed. Those
[5:24] African-American delegates here are were
[5:26] deeply appreciative of Colon Pal's
[5:28] remarks. Candy saying at least it's a
[5:30] start, but recognizing the party has a
[5:32] very long way to go. Outside of this
[5:34] convention hall, it was altogether
[5:36] different. I spoke with the Reverend
[5:37] Jesse Jackson, civil rights leader, just
[5:39] a little while ago, and he said, "Where
[5:41] the rubber meets the road, Coen Powell
[5:43] and George Bush are way far apart
[5:45] because Powell was in effect calling for
[5:46] more spending on things of concern to
[5:49] black voters such as schools, jails, the
[5:51] war against drugs, and that sort of
[5:53] thing." Jackson also says there's a
[5:55] gigantic disconnect between the people
[5:57] in this hall, in the Congress, and the
[5:59] money folks up in the sky boxes here in
[6:02] terms of who's making the decisions. He
[6:03] said they're virtually all white.
[6:05] Quaisian Fume, head of the NAACP, wanted
[6:08] to address this group. He was turned
[6:10] down. Clearly, there's a lot of work
[6:11] still to be done. Gene Merk now,
[6:17] >> New Jersey Governor Christy Todd Ritwin
[6:19] spoke today to the Black Republican
[6:20] Leadership Council and said to them it
[6:23] was time for police departments around
[6:25] the country to end racial profiling.
[6:27] This another attempt by the Republicans
[6:28] to reach out to African-Americans. But
[6:31] let me tell you, this party is not in
[6:32] fantasy land. It knows that despite its
[6:35] multi-U presentation here and aggressive
[6:37] outreach efforts in the states, it is
[6:40] unlikely that large numbers of
[6:41] African-Americans are going to come
[6:43] flocking to this party. But that is not
[6:45] really the point. What they are trying
[6:47] to do is reach out to the swing voters,
[6:49] the independents, the in the women in
[6:51] states like Illinois. These are people
[6:53] who in the past have been turned out by
[6:55] what turned off by what they perceive as
[6:57] the exclusionary tone of the Republican
[7:00] party. But there's a rub here. There's a
[7:02] problem. They have to appeal to those
[7:03] people in the middle without alienating
[7:06] the people on the right, the
[7:07] conservatives that have been the bedrock
[7:08] of the party. But they are holding their
[7:10] criticism in the interest and unity in
[7:13] the hope of victory. Now for Democratic
[7:15] reaction to John King in Tennessee.
[7:17] >> Well, Jean, thank you. We're standing
[7:19] here in front of the Tennessee
[7:20] delegation, a group of Republicans who
[7:22] hopes to send Al Gore back home to
[7:23] Tennessee from the Gore campaign today.
[7:26] No reaction directly from the vice
[7:27] president as his tradition he is
[7:29] vacationing during the Republican
[7:31] convention. His campaign though did put
[7:33] out a piece of paper and his aids making
[7:35] the case verbally that that speech you
[7:37] heard from Coen Powell on the podium
[7:38] last night would not be a speech
[7:40] approved of by most of the delegates on
[7:42] the floor here of the Republican
[7:43] convention. For example, they noted
[7:45] General Powell said that every child in
[7:47] America should have healthcare.
[7:49] According to the Gore campaign, Governor
[7:50] Bush has no plan to do that. They also
[7:53] said that the vice president has a much
[7:55] better plan to get all the education
[7:57] priorities outlined by General Powell.
[7:59] Again, the vice president, as is
[8:00] tradition, keeping relatively low-key,
[8:02] but a very unusual development these
[8:04] past few days. The president of the
[8:06] United States, Bill Clinton, on several
[8:08] occasions has pointedly criticized
[8:10] Governor Bush and has suggested on one
[8:12] occasion that Governor Bush is
[8:14] benefiting simply from being the son of
[8:15] a former president. Today, on his way
[8:17] here to Philadelphia, the man who will
[8:19] become the Republican nominee two nights
[8:21] from now, George W. Bush decided it was
[8:23] time to fire back.
[8:26] >> You know something, I welcome President
[8:27] Clinton's criticism. It's amazing to me
[8:30] that the president of the United States
[8:31] would would um would would spend time
[8:35] trying to be a political pundit. He is
[8:37] so desperate to have his legacy intact
[8:39] by getting Al Gore elected. He'll say
[8:41] anything just like Al Gore will. And I
[8:43] welcome his I welcome into the arena. He
[8:45] was criticizing Dick Cheney the other
[8:47] day. I noticed and u you know it's it's
[8:51] his prerogative. It's uh I'm not the
[8:54] least bit surprised though. Now, as the
[8:57] Republican convention continues, the
[8:58] Democrats making their case not so much
[9:00] in front of the cameras with
[9:01] politicians, but with television ads on
[9:03] in 17 battleground states criticizing
[9:06] Governor Bush's record in Texas. In the
[9:07] next few days, those ads will switch to
[9:09] another subject, healthcare. Back to you
[9:11] in the booth.
[9:12] >> It's interesting to me, Judy, and Bernie
[9:14] Middle, that while we talk about the
[9:16] scripted convention and the one message,
[9:18] look what they're doing the first two
[9:19] nights. the first night they put on
[9:20] General Powell who flatly disagrees with
[9:22] his own presidential nominee on
[9:24] affirmative action and the role of
[9:25] lobbyists. And tonight we're hearing
[9:26] from the man who tried to deny George W.
[9:28] Bush the nomination. So it seems to be
[9:31] pretty clear that they're saying there's
[9:32] room for a lot of people, even people
[9:34] who disagree with the governor on basic
[9:35] issues.
[9:36] >> That's true. That's true. But they're
[9:37] clearly on board in terms of who the
[9:39] nominee is and so forth. But it is
[9:41] interesting. I think that this these
[9:42] notes from the Democrats are the first
[9:44] sort of tension that we've gotten out of
[9:46] this very very love of a convention.
[9:50] Well, two of the main speakers this week
[9:52] were out there checking out the
[9:54] microphones at the uh on the convention
[9:56] floor and the podium today. One of them
[9:58] uh Dick Cheney uh well, here's here's
[10:01] John McCain who of course is the one of
[10:03] the main speakers tonight. Dick Cheney
[10:06] was also there testing the microphone,
[10:08] checking out that lectern where he will
[10:10] be speaking uh later on this week. But
[10:13] it is McCain who speaks tonight and he
[10:15] is just one part of a full schedule this
[10:17] Tuesday evening.
[10:22] Here's a look at this evening, the
[10:24] second night of the Republican National
[10:26] Convention, Tuesday, August 1st. At the
[10:29] end of the 8:00 hour, retired Army
[10:31] General Norman Schwarzoff addresses the
[10:33] convention via satellite, but his stage
[10:36] will be the deck of the Navy ship, the
[10:38] USS New Jersey. Schwarzoff will discuss
[10:41] military readiness as part of tonight's
[10:43] theme, strength and security with a
[10:46] purpose, safe in our homes and the
[10:48] world. Former Senator Bob Dole will lead
[10:51] a salute to US military veterans,
[10:54] especially those who served in World War
[10:56] II, as he did. In the 10:00 hour,
[10:59] Condisa Rice talks about international
[11:02] relations, an expertise she used as an
[11:04] adviser to former President Bush. She
[11:08] continues in that role with his son, the
[11:10] presidential candidate. Former
[11:13] presidential candidate Elizabeth Dole
[11:15] will return to a recurring theme of the
[11:17] convention and the party. She'll discuss
[11:20] strength through compassion. Former
[11:23] presidential challenger John McCain, who
[11:25] spent 5 and a half years as a Vietnamese
[11:28] prisoner of war, discusses the
[11:30] importance of military strength in the
[11:33] closing minutes of Tuesday, August 1st.
[11:39] Well, it is almost certain that if
[11:41] George Bush becomes president, he will
[11:42] listen to Condisa Rice. And it is it is
[11:45] possible that he might be listening to
[11:47] John John McCain as a member of his
[11:49] cabinet. But the broader question is who
[11:51] else does George W. Bush, a potential
[11:52] president, listen to? We're going to
[11:54] take that up when we come back. Will you
[11:56] stay with us?
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[13:38] for the 1924 Republican convention in
[13:41] Cleveland. People interested in hearing
[13:43] the proceedings no longer needed a
[13:45] ticket. Four years earlier, people in
[13:47] Pittsburgh had heard the result of the
[13:49] presidential election on the new fangled
[13:51] radio. Now listeners in 12 cities could
[13:54] be part of the process itself as AT&T
[13:57] put together a 16st station radio
[13:59] network to broadcast the conventions, a
[14:02] major feat of engineering. Orators used
[14:05] to wandering around the stage had to
[14:07] stay inside a railing to keep them in
[14:09] the general vicinity of the microphone.
[14:11] Radio would play a big part in the
[14:13] campaign to follow, though one magazine
[14:15] predicted that by 1928 the broadcasting
[14:18] fad would be over.
[14:27] One of the things about radio in the old
[14:28] days was you had to speak with
[14:30] authority. At the podium, Wolf Blitzer
[14:33] has a man who speaks with authority.
[14:35] He's also the permanent chairman of this
[14:37] convention. House Speaker Dennis
[14:39] Hastard.
[14:40] >> Thank you, Bernie. Uh Mr. Speaker, when
[14:43] you take a look at the news of the day
[14:44] so far, this uh exchange, the verbal
[14:47] exchange between President Clinton and
[14:48] George W. Bush, is this politics as
[14:50] usual or is there something going on
[14:52] that's not so it's not so usual?
[14:54] >> Well, actually, I've just never seen
[14:55] this ever happen before in a in a
[14:57] campaign and when you're going through
[14:59] your convention and having the other
[15:01] side weigh in. Usually, it's been a good
[15:03] time to hands off, let the party have
[15:05] its day, you know, lay out its vision
[15:09] and without the other side weighing in.
[15:10] So, it's not very unusual, I think.
[15:12] >> Well, why do you think they're doing it?
[15:14] >> Well, I think it's one of the reasons is
[15:15] the the Democrat party's behind. They
[15:17] are worried about it and uh they're
[15:19] doing everything which is typical of
[15:21] their style of fighting back. They're
[15:23] fighting back right away. They're not
[15:25] waiting.
[15:25] >> You're going to bring down the gavvel
[15:27] shortly here. What do you hope what do
[15:28] you one of the organizers hope to
[15:30] achieve on this second night of this
[15:32] convention?
[15:32] >> Well, I think we started laying out the
[15:34] vision of the Republican party well last
[15:36] night and Mrs. Bush and uh General
[15:39] Powell did a very excellent job I think
[15:41] of of be beginning that. We're going to
[15:43] have a little tribute of our past uh
[15:45] presidents and our people who were the
[15:46] leaders of the past kind of go back and
[15:48] step what are the roots of this party
[15:50] what did people bring to this party and
[15:52] then we're going to turn around look at
[15:54] the future what are our responsibilities
[15:55] national defense Norman Schwarzoff and
[15:58] then you know have the other side of the
[16:00] story and John McCain here tonight I
[16:02] think that brings people together and
[16:04] saying you know this party has something
[16:05] we uh are vital we're going to move
[16:08] forward and really get our story out
[16:09] there
[16:10] >> Mr. Speaker, thank you so much for
[16:11] joining us. I know you'll be back
[16:12] tomorrow in another capacity, but we'll
[16:14] save that for our audience. Thank you so
[16:16] much for joining us. Back to the booth,
[16:17] Jeff.
[16:18] >> Thank you, Wolf. We're reminded that
[16:20] Dennis Hastard was a wrestling coach,
[16:22] which seems like a pretty good piece of
[16:24] training to be speaker of the House of
[16:25] Representatives. Now, when we talk about
[16:27] a president, we're also talking about
[16:29] the men and women around that president.
[16:31] Think of John Kennedy in the Cuban
[16:32] Missile Crisis. Think of Roosevelt
[16:34] trying to combat the depression or
[16:35] Ronald Reagan planning what to do about
[16:37] the Soviet Union. As governor, George W.
[16:40] Bush has set a distinct and very
[16:42] significant governing style. He sets the
[16:44] broad policies, but he leaves the
[16:46] details of the implementation to the
[16:47] others. Who might those others be in the
[16:49] White House? Our Candy Crowley takes a
[16:51] look.
[16:58] >> I heard scream was moratorium.
[17:00] >> Where does George Bush go for advice?
[17:02] Everywhere. He's obviously got a staff
[17:04] and he relies upon advice and counsel
[17:06] from the staff, but he's also got a wide
[17:08] range of friends and acquaintances from
[17:09] around the country. He's keeps a very,
[17:12] you know, sharp ear open for advice and
[17:15] counsel from people.
[17:16] >> Who does George Bush listen to? How long
[17:19] have you got?
[17:20] >> He's a tremendous listener. He reaches
[17:22] out to former schoolmates, former
[17:25] classmates, former coworkers, people
[17:28] he's been in business with. So I think
[17:30] in that sense there is an unofficial
[17:32] kitchen cabinet.
[17:33] >> But in the traditional sense there is no
[17:35] kitchen cabinet in the Bush campaign. No
[17:37] small cadre of unofficial advisers who
[17:39] sit around a table and chew over details
[17:41] of strategy and policy. There is rather
[17:44] a larger group many called from the
[17:46] platinum rolodexes of the Reagan and
[17:48] Bush administrations. Names who are from
[17:50] time to time called upon for input. But
[17:53] on a regular basis some are more called
[17:56] upon than others. Condisa Rice and Larry
[17:59] Lindseay and Steve Goldsmith are three
[18:02] names of people that have come since the
[18:04] campaign got started. I trust their
[18:06] judgment.
[18:08] A clear Bush favorite, Condisa Rice is
[18:11] the marquee player on international
[18:12] policy. The top Soviet expert on
[18:15] President Bush's national security team,
[18:17] Rice helped formulate US-Russian policy
[18:19] in the postcold war era. A former
[18:21] governor at the Federal Reserve, Larry
[18:23] Lindseay serves as Bush's mainstay
[18:25] economic adviser. and domestic policy
[18:28] falls into the bayick of the former
[18:30] mayor of Indianapolis, Steven Goldsmith.
[18:34] On the staff side, Bush relies on a
[18:36] tightlyk knit trio of political and
[18:38] strategic adviserss.
[18:39] >> Karen Hughes, Joe Abar, Carl Ro are
[18:42] three names of people that have been
[18:44] with me ever since I ran for governor of
[18:46] Texas. They're extremely close. They're
[18:48] also friends.
[18:50] >> They are the iron triangle. They hate
[18:52] the name because they think it makes
[18:53] them sound too exclusive, too
[18:55] protective. They are all Texas and all
[18:58] loyal. All have been with him seven
[19:00] years or more. Hughes runs a
[19:02] communications operation. Rove is the
[19:04] top political strategist. Alba makes the
[19:06] place work. They report to Don Evans.
[19:10] >> Don Evans
[19:11] uh is a friend of mine that is that is
[19:14] for me for the right reason.
[19:16] >> The next president of the United States.
[19:17] >> Evans says his conversations with Bush
[19:19] range from how the message is going
[19:21] across in the country to the activities
[19:23] of old friends from Midland. Evans is a
[19:26] successful businessman who is smart and
[19:28] knows how to raise money. He is a loyal
[19:30] decadesl long Bush friend. He is not a
[19:33] political pro, but he's learning.
[19:35] >> He does have a kitchen cabinet. It's the
[19:38] American people.
[19:41] >> To a person all of those who are closest
[19:43] to Bush say he takes some advice. He
[19:45] discards other advice and in the end the
[19:48] decision is his alone. Judy.
[19:51] >> All right. Candy Crowley. Advice on
[19:52] matters domestic and international.
[19:54] Tonight the focus is international and
[19:56] for that Bill Schneider joins us to tell
[19:58] us a little bit what Americans think
[20:00] about things international.
[20:02] >> Exactly. That's the theme for tonight.
[20:03] It's world affairs. Now that's strange.
[20:06] Who's concerned about world affairs?
[20:08] Where are the voters? Well, the voters's
[20:11] big concerns this year are education,
[20:14] healthcare, social security. World
[20:16] affairs ranks very low. And don't forget
[20:18] that famous pop quiz when a sneaky
[20:20] reporter asked Governor Bush to name
[20:22] some world leaders. Well, duh. Why would
[20:25] the convention want to call attention to
[20:27] Bush's weakness? Well, surprise. World
[20:30] Affairs is not Bush's weakness, at least
[20:33] not in the voters's perception.
[20:34] International policy is the area where
[20:37] Bush has his strongest lead over Al
[20:39] Gore. Now, why do voters think the
[20:41] governor of Texas is so good on world
[20:44] affairs? Because he's seen as a stronger
[20:47] leader than Al Gore. And because world
[20:50] affairs was his father's strong suit.
[20:52] Young Bush has signed on several major
[20:55] advisers on international policy from
[20:57] his father's administration, including
[20:59] Dick Cheney. Thanks, Dad. And one more
[21:02] thing, tomorrow is the 10th anniversary
[21:05] of the Iraqi invasion of Q8. Someone is
[21:08] bound to point that out, but Saddam
[21:10] Hussein is still in power. I don't think
[21:12] anybody's going to point that out.
[21:14] >> You don't think so?
[21:14] >> I don't think so.
[21:15] >> He might be watching our convention
[21:17] coverage, you know.
[21:18] >> That's right. That's right. Does this
[21:19] suggest to you that in the absence of of
[21:22] any interest in international affairs
[21:24] that it might be an actual advantage to
[21:26] Al Gore if foreign policy came to the
[21:29] surface in the fall if there was some
[21:30] kind of foreign policy issue even a
[21:33] crisis that would focus attention? Do
[21:34] you think
[21:35] >> it might well because uh he is seen as
[21:38] having more direct personal experience
[21:40] in international affairs and it
[21:41] generally uh acrru to the benefit of the
[21:44] incumbent. Now he's not the incumbent
[21:45] president, he's the incumbent vice
[21:47] president. But if people want a sure and
[21:48] steady hand, the vice president is
[21:50] someplace they might turn.
[21:51] >> But it is significant that they did
[21:52] decide to devote virtually this entire
[21:55] night to international affairs. I mean,
[21:57] they could have done it some other way,
[21:58] but they chose to talk about it.
[22:00] >> Yes. And an an issue that ranks very low
[22:02] in voters concerns this year, unlike
[22:04] most elections of the past 30 years.
[22:06] >> Well, who is whispering into this man's
[22:08] ear? Candy told us a little bit. More on
[22:11] the advisers of George Walker Bush.
[22:13] Let's go down to the floor and Candy
[22:15] Crowley. I'm sure a lot of people
[22:16] >> I'm sorry Jean Missourier
[22:18] >> that's okay Bernie happy to be mistaken
[22:20] for candy down here right now with
[22:22] Governor John Angler of Michigan who has
[22:24] known the governor for more than 10
[22:26] years and has supported his candidacy
[22:28] when it comes to international affairs.
[22:30] Does Governor Bush have what it takes?
[22:32] >> Well, I think he certainly does.
[22:34] Interestingly, he comes with a set of
[22:35] experiences that are certainly far
[22:37] greater than Bill Clinton, for example,
[22:39] had when he arrived at the presidency.
[22:41] being a governor on international border
[22:43] with Mexico, he's long had relations
[22:46] with the Mexican governors and the
[22:48] Mexican government as well as in Central
[22:50] and South America. So, there's a there's
[22:52] a side there uh without mentioning all
[22:54] of the other background that he's had
[22:56] just through association. I thought the
[22:58] pick of Dick Cheney was very interesting
[23:00] because he said, you know, I'm willing
[23:02] also to put somebody on this ticket
[23:05] whose uh strengths complement my
[23:07] strengths and uh we've got a really
[23:08] great team. Are there areas where the
[23:10] governor has less knowledge than he will
[23:13] need? Specifically, I'm thinking in
[23:14] terms of of Asia, of China, where
[23:17] there's going to be a big challenge in
[23:18] the next administration.
[23:19] >> Well, uh, no question about that, I
[23:22] suppose. But, you know, the one
[23:23] strength, the one, uh, cardinal virtue
[23:26] that you have to have in negotiating
[23:27] with foreign leaders is being a person
[23:30] of great integrity, whose word means
[23:32] exactly what you say. uh somebody who's
[23:36] not going to use the international stage
[23:38] as a way to try to get well back home to
[23:41] fix domestic problems. And I think
[23:43] George Bush has a great sense about
[23:45] people and a great ability to listen and
[23:48] I think that's another skill that
[23:49] sometimes is in short supply.
[23:51] >> Governor John Angler, thanks so much for
[23:52] joining us here today. And now back to
[23:54] the booth.
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[25:32] >> She was kidding about college in Hawaii.
[25:35] >> Thank you, Payne Weber.
[25:39] Tonight,
[25:43] live from the GOP convention, the Bush
[25:45] Cheney ticket. Minorities and our youth
[25:47] when George P. Bush joins Larry King
[25:49] Live tonight, 9 Eastern on CNN.
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[26:54] >> CNN, America's campaign headquarters.
[27:07] The convention will now come to order.
[27:10] >> At the 1948 Republican convention in
[27:13] Philadelphia, delegates had to deal with
[27:16] something new. Television. For the first
[27:18] time, the events were broadcast live to
[27:21] the East Coast. Party leaders told
[27:23] delegates to be aware of the TV cameras,
[27:25] telling them, "Don't take off your shoes
[27:28] and take the toothpick out of your
[27:29] mouths." Illinois Governor Dwight Green
[27:32] was the keynote speaker.
[27:33] >> We shall not deceive you, as did the
[27:36] Democrats before two world wars by
[27:40] crying peace when there was no peace.
[27:44] >> Green had prepared for the harsh
[27:45] television lights by tanning under a sun
[27:48] lamp.
[27:57] Wish I had done that. Now, we know in
[27:59] the streets of Chicago, we know in the
[28:01] streets of Seattle that sometimes events
[28:03] outside the hall can influence what has
[28:05] happened inside the hall. On the streets
[28:07] of Philadelphia today, more than a 100
[28:09] demonstrators have been arrested. Our
[28:10] Charles Berbower has been covering that
[28:12] story.
[28:14] Jeff, perhaps emboldened by what did
[28:16] happen in Seattle. demonstrators and
[28:18] police have been uh facing offing all
[28:21] afternoon here in downtown Philadelphia.
[28:23] These are live pictures we're going to
[28:25] be looking at now just outside of city
[28:28] hall. CNN can confirm that at least 113
[28:32] demonstrators have been arrested. I
[28:34] myself have seen perhaps 20 of those
[28:36] most around city hall where young people
[28:38] sat down in the street linked to arms
[28:40] and uh defied police to arrest them in
[28:43] this act of civil disobedience. There
[28:45] are several demonstrations that
[28:47] converged in the course of the
[28:48] afternoon. Their causes are multiple.
[28:50] Economic injustice, racial injustice,
[28:53] they say, police brutality, they
[28:55] contend, and the death penalty, which
[28:58] they raise both in the context of Texas,
[29:00] where Governor George W. Bush has uh in
[29:04] many cases refused to stop executions,
[29:07] and also in a very localized context in
[29:10] the behalf of Mumia Abu Jamal. He is a
[29:12] black Philadelphiaian on death row here
[29:14] in Pennsylvania. But this is not
[29:16] entirely aimed at the Republicans. In
[29:19] one part of the demonstration, uh a
[29:21] speaker was advocating an act of civil
[29:24] disobedience by saying, "Let's use our
[29:27] right not to vote and suggesting not
[29:29] voting for either party." Uh this was uh
[29:32] relatively calm in spite of all the
[29:35] commotion. I asked one police captain,
[29:37] he said, "Well, you'd have to define
[29:39] relatively calm." I said, "I've seen
[29:41] worse." He said he had as well. Judy.
[29:44] >> All right, Charles Berbower, thanks for
[29:46] that report. Well, whatever is going on
[29:48] in the streets of Philadelphia for
[29:50] public consumption, this convention is
[29:52] all about openness, about opening this
[29:55] party to new faces, to new
[29:57] constituencies. But, you know, there's
[29:59] another whole set of meetings going on
[30:01] in this city between the politicians and
[30:03] the lobbyists. And there, the doors are
[30:06] most definitely closed. Brooks Jackson
[30:09] has that.
[30:11] This part of the convention they don't
[30:13] want you to see. Can we not block the
[30:16] sidewalk? Huh? You see?
[30:18] >> I know. Don't worry. Anybody here?
[30:20] >> Corporate parties, whining, dining,
[30:23] entertainment.
[30:25] This rock and roll bash, to which we
[30:27] were politely disinvited, is for
[30:29] Congressman Mike Oxley of Ohio. He wants
[30:32] to be chairman of the House Commerce
[30:34] Committee. The event reportedly cost
[30:37] $400,000 and we're told it was paid for
[30:40] by trade associations for the insurance
[30:42] industry and electric utilities
[30:44] industries overseen by the commerce
[30:46] committee. Inside the convention hall,
[30:49] it's all scripted, produced, made for
[30:51] TV.
[30:54] This is the third time I've been checked
[30:55] in.
[30:56] >> Outside, it's a lobbyist ball. General
[30:59] Motors put on this event for lawmakers
[31:01] in states where it has factories. Here's
[31:04] Senator Fred Thompson. And here's
[31:06] Tennessee's other senator, Bill Fris.
[31:09] Business is spending millions on these
[31:11] parties. Nobody knows how many millions.
[31:14] There's no disclosure required. Lobbyist
[31:16] by the train load. The Union Pacific
[31:19] actually laid half a mile of new track
[31:21] and brought 30 gleaming rail cars here
[31:23] to entertain lawmakers and delegates.
[31:25] They call it marketing, an educational
[31:28] tool.
[31:28] >> We have dinners, breakfast, lunches,
[31:30] receptions. There are lounge cars,
[31:33] dining cars, cooking cars.
[31:35] >> Um, we're going to be having uh New
[31:38] Orleans style barbecue shrimp.
[31:40] >> The lobbying or marketing or education,
[31:42] whatever it is, is bipartisan. Many of
[31:45] these cars will soon head for Los
[31:47] Angeles for the Democratic convention.
[31:49] >> There's going to be plenty of plenty of
[31:51] parties at this uh at these both parties
[31:53] conventions. Uh they don't call them
[31:55] party conventions for nothing,
[31:59] >> but it's partying with a purpose.
[32:02] Daimler Chrysler, now based in Germany,
[32:04] is here selling itself as a
[32:06] compassionate American corporation. The
[32:09] cost, they say, not so much.
[32:11] >> Basically, the cost of doing a show like
[32:14] this, an exhibit like this, um is less
[32:18] than doing a a Super Bowl spot.
[32:20] >> And look who's saying the same thing.
[32:23] one of the lawmakers being honored by
[32:25] Daimler Chrysler.
[32:26] >> You know, the same organization that's
[32:28] doing this interview uh would charge
[32:31] about uh for a Super Bowl would charge
[32:33] about $1.2 million for a 30 secondond
[32:37] commercial. $1.2 million for a 30se
[32:40] secondond commercial.
[32:41] >> Super Bowl not on CNN.
[32:47] >> Wants was confused, possibly distracted
[32:50] by all that corporate partying. Brooks
[32:52] Jackson, CNN, following the money in
[32:55] Philadelphia.
[32:58] >> I guess we're not going to be covering
[33:00] the Super Bowl. Brooks is right. Um, now
[33:03] all through this convention week, we
[33:05] have been giving you quizzes to test
[33:07] your political knowledge, and we're
[33:08] going to do three more of them now.
[33:10] Please get out your pencils and paper.
[33:11] Do not call. We have nothing to give you
[33:13] but our admiration if you get these
[33:15] right. First, which presidential
[33:17] election winner earned the highest
[33:19] electoral vote total in history? Was it
[33:22] Ronald Reagan in 1984, Richard Nixon in
[33:25] 1972,
[33:27] Abraham Lincoln in 1864,
[33:29] Franklin Roosevelt in 1944? The correct
[33:33] answer, Judy Bernie.
[33:35] >> Was it Roosevelt?
[33:37] >> No, sorry. You'll have to leave the
[33:39] booth. It was Ronald Reagan in 1984. He
[33:42] carried everything but Minnesota and the
[33:44] District of Columbia. Right.
[33:46] >> Right. Okay. Well, let's try this next
[33:48] one. Prescott Bush, the grandfather of
[33:51] Texas Governor George W. Bush, served as
[33:53] United States Senator for which state
[33:56] was it? Maine. B. Texas. No. C. Florida.
[34:00] D. Connecticut. And the answer,
[34:01] gentlemen and lady, is
[34:03] >> Connecticut.
[34:04] >> This is correct. Connecticut Yankee.
[34:07] Okay, last question. Who of these
[34:11] presidential candidates carried 27
[34:14] states the most ever in a losing
[34:16] campaign? Was it Richard Nixon in 1960?
[34:20] Was it George Bush in 1992?
[34:22] Was it Tom Dwey in 1948? Or Gerald Ford
[34:26] in 1976?
[34:28] >> Gerald Ford.
[34:29] >> Bernie.
[34:31] >> Jerry Ford.
[34:32] >> We got two experts. You don't want to
[34:34] call a friend to use that lane
[34:36] reference.
[34:37] >> Okay. It was Jerry Ford in 1976. And in
[34:40] fact, if he carried New York State,
[34:41] >> my reputation's intact. If he carried
[34:44] New York State, which he almost did, he
[34:46] would have been elected president with a
[34:47] minority with a popular vote, with fewer
[34:49] popular votes than Jimmy Carter, and
[34:51] then we would have had a gusto up. Lee,
[34:53] we will take a break now and we'll be
[34:55] back with much more in a moment.
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[37:00] the auditorium here in Philadelphia. The
[37:03] delegates are filing in. The buses are
[37:05] bringing them from their downtown
[37:07] hotels. And in about 10 minutes, things
[37:10] will get underway for night number two.
[37:12] Joining us now, CNN commentator and
[37:15] former White House press secretary for
[37:17] President Clinton. That gentleman on the
[37:19] left, Mike Mccur. And from CNN's
[37:21] Crossfire, Mary Mataline
[37:25] might Mary, what is President Clinton
[37:28] trying to do? Is he in the position of
[37:31] lobbing a grenade across the stage,
[37:33] trying to go governor Bush by these
[37:36] comments he's made about the governor
[37:39] being the son of a president, etc.,
[37:41] etc., etc. Mike? Well, you know, Bernie,
[37:46] he loves politics. I don't think there's
[37:47] ever been anyone who has played at this
[37:50] level who really enjoys the give and
[37:52] take of politics as much as he does. And
[37:54] my guess is it just is constitutionally
[37:56] incapable for him to stay out of the
[37:58] fray. Now, very interestingly, he he
[38:00] feels almost paternal to the Gore
[38:02] campaign at this point. If you think of
[38:04] the other side of this race, it really
[38:06] is a question of paternity. And and I
[38:08] suspect you're going to see a lot more
[38:09] of this. It was very clear today that
[38:11] Governor Bush got drawn into this debate
[38:14] very very quickly. you know, since
[38:15] defending his father's entry into the
[38:18] race. President Bush this morning was on
[38:20] television calling the opposition
[38:22] research division at the Democratic
[38:24] Committee a bunch of nerds. I mean, sort
[38:26] of strange language in a way uh for a
[38:28] former president. But if you think about
[38:30] it, Bill Clinton gets drawn into it
[38:33] easily, too, because he feels so
[38:34] intensely about Al Gore and the job he's
[38:37] done. And I I suspect this is the first
[38:39] moment of this convention that looked
[38:41] like it was off script for the
[38:42] Republicans. I don't know if Mary would
[38:44] agree with that, but I think uh this was
[38:46] not according to the program. They
[38:48] didn't want to have this excursion into
[38:50] a debate between two presidents today.
[38:52] >> Well, I'm I'm sure that it wasn't
[38:54] according to plan, but I think American
[38:57] voters uh Bernie make the difference
[38:59] between paternity between two political
[39:02] addicts, that would be the president and
[39:03] the vice president, and a real father
[39:05] and a real son. Yes. Uh, Governor Bush
[39:07] has has said that he gets more upset by
[39:09] attacks on uh, his father and the father
[39:12] said he gets more upset by the attacks
[39:14] on his son than being attacked
[39:15] individually. And I think voters
[39:16] recognize that. But the problem with
[39:18] what President Clinton is doing, which
[39:19] is unprecedented. It has never happened.
[39:22] Reagan didn't do it. This this term for
[39:25] uh, Gore is analogous to ours in ' 88.
[39:28] Reagan did not overshadow uh, Vice
[39:31] President Bush when it was his time to
[39:33] show his leadership skills. And this is
[39:34] a particular vulnerability for Al Gore
[39:36] who has a 20point deficit on leadership.
[39:39] He's not going to get there if Clinton
[39:41] keeps bigfooting it. Also, they this
[39:43] attack on the daddy daddy's boy.
[39:46] President Bush has a 74% job approval
[39:49] rating. People liked that time. They
[39:51] liked that man. It's just a it's a just
[39:53] a this is a three cushion shot that's
[39:55] just not working for them. And I suspect
[39:56] the Gore campaign has not sent the
[39:59] president out there to uh to shake this
[40:01] thing up. Mary, let me take some issue
[40:03] with you on this, though. Tonight is
[40:05] going to be a night devoted to the
[40:07] considerable achievements of President
[40:09] Bush in the foreign policy arena. You're
[40:11] going to hear a lot of attacks about uh
[40:13] where the Clinton stewardship of the US
[40:16] military has been. For example, charges
[40:18] that, by the way, I think are wrong
[40:19] because I think they've got their facts
[40:20] wrong. But you know in a way this
[40:23] highlights the problem uh for Governor
[40:25] Bush because associating the memory of
[40:28] that uh victory in the Desert Storm war
[40:31] that retinue of people including Dick
[40:33] Cheney who are there emblematic of the
[40:35] stewardship of President Bush in office
[40:38] is just a reminder to the whole country
[40:41] that maybe the son is not quite the
[40:43] equal of the father. I I think there's a
[40:45] inherent tension in this and we're going
[40:46] to see it over and over in this
[40:47] campaign.
[40:48] >> So Mary go ahead. Well, that I'm not
[40:51] sure that's what's clearly what they're
[40:53] trying to do tonight, but that is a
[40:54] reminder of something that people look
[40:56] at uh favorably. What they're trying to
[40:58] point out tonight is how the military
[40:59] under the Clinton stewardship is
[41:01] underpaid, undertrained, demoralized.
[41:05] >> They had the largest increase in pay for
[41:07] the US military and and you know, the
[41:09] cuts that they're going to talk about
[41:11] tonight began under President Reagan.
[41:13] Why? Because the Cold War came to an
[41:15] end. It was natural to sort of downsize.
[41:18] Jud Mike uh you know just picking up on
[41:21] this theme I mean it's not just
[41:23] President Clinton who's making these
[41:24] comments Hillary Clinton in New York
[41:26] talking about you know political amnesia
[41:30] taking a shot not just at Lazio but this
[41:32] whole Republican convention at George W.
[41:34] Bush does do you really believe Al Gore
[41:37] is pleased to have this going on by his
[41:40] president his boss and by the the first
[41:42] lady running in New York? I I think uh
[41:45] to be honest with you, Judy, I think Al
[41:47] Gore's probably happy he's on a beach
[41:49] somewhere in North Carolina right about
[41:50] now. They look at in fairness to Mrs.
[41:52] Clinton, she's a candidate for office in
[41:54] which there are very high stakes being
[41:56] raised by this convention for her own
[41:58] race. Now, this again is going to be
[42:00] part of the tension of having the
[42:02] existing first family in the middle of
[42:04] politics in this very political season
[42:07] that we're entering into. I don't see
[42:09] any other way the Gore campaign is going
[42:11] to have to successfully navigate around
[42:13] it. And they're going to have to take
[42:14] that moment that comes in Los Angeles to
[42:17] really put him center stage so that it
[42:20] becomes his convention, his party, and
[42:23] really his vision of the future that we
[42:24] argue about going ahead.
[42:26] >> But it's going to be Jimmy, it's going
[42:28] to be very difficult for the vice
[42:29] president to do that if for no other
[42:31] reason. Even if there's some way to
[42:32] control an uncontrollable president here
[42:34] who is a political addict, you he cannot
[42:36] wipe from the stage this very
[42:38] high-profile in many cases more
[42:40] high-profile race in New York, which uh
[42:43] obviously is the first lady's which
[42:45] brings us to last night. Laura Bush was
[42:47] an she gave a wonderful speech. Her
[42:50] teleprompter broke. you didn't miss a
[42:51] beat, but it was an for Republicans and
[42:53] I think the country a very interesting
[42:55] contrast with this sitting first lady
[42:58] and a positive uh to the positive for
[43:01] the Bush campaign.
[43:02] >> Mary and Mike, let me just put something
[43:04] on the table for you. Don't both these
[43:05] candidates in a sense have the same
[43:08] problem? That is Gore wants to associate
[43:11] himself with Clinton but doesn't want
[43:13] Clinton to overshadow him? George Bush
[43:15] wants to W. Bush wants to kind of be
[43:17] associated with the with the better
[43:19] feeling about his father, but doesn't
[43:20] want his father to make him look like
[43:22] daddy's boy. I mean, isn't this a rather
[43:23] unusual, almost unprecedented kind of
[43:26] presidential campaign in both campaigns?
[43:28] It
[43:28] >> it has to be by definition unprecedented
[43:31] because we've never been in a situation
[43:32] where a first lady was taking such an
[43:34] active role in politics. But, you know,
[43:36] in a way, it's part of the drama that
[43:38] plays out. This is a very uh human
[43:42] campaign season that we're into. And it
[43:44] it is going to be the human emotions are
[43:46] going to be just beneath the surface
[43:47] here. I I saw the clip today of Governor
[43:49] Bush as he reacted and and you could
[43:52] tell that was the anger of a son coming
[43:54] to the defense of his father. This is
[43:56] going to be a very strange campaign for
[43:58] this reason because you're going to see
[44:00] more of it. I suspect that Democrats
[44:02] learned something valuable today. They
[44:05] found out that you can really rattle
[44:07] Governor George Bush by talking about
[44:09] his father. Jeeoff, one reason this
[44:11] isn't going to be a problem for the
[44:12] governor, forget the drama. People, I
[44:14] don't think people object to being a son
[44:16] being rattled by tax and his father, but
[44:18] George Bush is changing the face of the
[44:21] Republican party. This is a 21st century
[44:23] Republican party. This this convention
[44:25] is a reflection of him. The Bill Clinton
[44:28] has already moved his party to the
[44:29] center in 1992. That's what George Bush
[44:31] is doing. And reminding people of the
[44:34] civility and the dignity of his
[44:35] president of his father's term is can
[44:37] only be a positive, I think.
[44:40] Okay, Mary Matlin, Mike Mccur, thanks
[44:42] very much. Senator John McCain, it's his
[44:45] night tonight. And also, the delegates
[44:47] continue filing into the hall. They're
[44:49] getting ready to get started very
[44:50] shortly. When we come back, Mrs. McCain
[44:53] and a look at the second night at the
[44:55] Republicans convening here in
[44:57] Philadelphia.
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[46:37] >> will be presented tonight by the joint
[46:40] services color guard. As the colors come
[46:42] forward at the invitation of House
[46:45] Speaker Master,
[46:47] >> the pledge of allegiance is going to be
[46:49] given by Everett Alvarez,
[46:52] >> a man who was a prisoner of war. Judy,
[46:54] >> that's right. The first American pilot
[46:57] shot down in North Vietnam in 1964.
[47:02] He was uh spent 8 years in uh in Vietnam
[47:06] as a P.
[47:08] He was captured and taken to the
[47:10] infamous Hanoi Hilton. For the first
[47:12] year and a half, he spent in solitary
[47:15] confinement.
[47:16] >> And I think we see a rather deliberate
[47:19] precursor here to the featured speaker
[47:21] of the night, John McCain, who spent 5
[47:23] and a half years in North's business.
[47:25] some of that in that same infamous
[47:27] annoying
[47:29] >> that music from Bridge Over the River
[47:32] Climb, Colonel Bogi's March, and of
[47:34] course that movie about prisoners of war
[47:40] brings back memories.
[47:44] It's a good feeling to hear this tune
[47:46] when you're free.
[47:49] Of course, behind bars and when you're
[47:52] captured uh these dreams might go
[47:55] through your head quite a bit. They
[47:57] certainly might have gone through the
[47:58] head of the man from Arizona, John
[48:00] McCain. It's a really good point. It's
[48:02] amazing how everything fits together.
[48:05] We talk perhaps too much about to use
[48:08] the cliche the scripted convention. But
[48:10] here you have the leader of the pledge
[48:12] of allegiance, the music picked for him,
[48:14] the featured speaker of the night,
[48:16] condor rice telling us how future
[48:18] Vietnams are going to be avoided. One
[48:19] assumes all part of a common theme. Uh
[48:22] uh the contrast between conventions of
[48:24] old when they couldn't even tell the
[48:26] president of the United States what time
[48:27] in the morning he was going to speak and
[48:29] a convention like tonight is highlighted
[48:31] even at the very start of this kind of
[48:33] convention
[48:34] >> and from the decks of the most decorated
[48:37] battleship in United States naval
[48:39] history tonight. Stormman Norman
[48:41] Schwarzkoff
[48:43] >> that's right to led the United States
[48:45] led the allies in in the Gulf War 10
[48:48] years ago. a man who uh really came to
[48:52] symbolize this at at a point when people
[48:55] had had some doubts about the American
[48:57] military, just what the American
[48:59] military was capable of.
[49:01] >> It looks calm on the floor, but it's
[49:03] noisy. It's warm, sometimes hot. Candy
[49:06] Crowley, you're down there. What does it
[49:07] feel like?
[49:09] >> Bernie, it's getting very crowded down
[49:11] here. This is still a very excited
[49:12] group. I think it's going to take 4 days
[49:14] to wear them down. Um they are now just
[49:17] as you came to me of course they quieted
[49:19] down for the pledge of allegiance as you
[49:21] know this is a military night and uh
[49:24] they will be
[49:27] >> here's the pledge of allegiance now
[49:38] by the way of John McCain in the
[49:41] primaries. I pledge allegiance to the
[49:44] flag of the United States of America and
[49:48] to the republic for which it stands, one
[49:51] nation under God, indivisible, with
[49:55] liberty and justice for all.
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[50:09] >> Doesn't he look fit?
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[50:14] >> And once again, uh, at the risk of
[50:17] repeating myself, the thematic unity of
[50:19] this convention, yes, the P who
[50:22] supported John McCain in leading us to
[50:24] the pledge of allegiance
[50:26] to set up the featured speaker of the
[50:28] night, John McCain. And we'll be back in
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[54:37] This is John McCain's night. He is the
[54:39] featured speaker. He was the person who
[54:41] injected genuine uncertainty into into
[54:44] the primary process that was supposed to
[54:45] be in his words of Bush coronation. But
[54:48] that campaign effectively ended March
[54:50] 7th. So, Bill Schneider, what remains of
[54:53] the McCain phenomenon? Is there a
[54:54] political impact of the senator's role
[54:56] even now and into the fall?
[54:58] >> No question was the biggest story this
[54:59] year. But as they say in Hollywood, does
[55:01] this story have legs? Well, where are
[55:03] the voters? Twothirds of Republicans
[55:06] have a favorable opinion of John McCain,
[55:08] but so do a majority of Democrats and
[55:11] independents, which is why some
[55:13] Republicans didn't trust him. Why did
[55:15] McCain become such a sensation? Here's a
[55:17] clue. The name of his bus, the Straight
[55:19] Talk Express. Straight Talk. That's
[55:22] exactly what a lot of voters were
[55:23] looking for. Why? Because they didn't
[55:25] think they were getting it from Bill
[55:26] Clinton. What are the most memorable
[55:28] things Clinton has said? I did not have
[55:30] sexual relations with that woman. I
[55:32] didn't inhale. It depends on what the
[55:34] meaning of is is. McCain argued that the
[55:38] Republican party cannot win simply as a
[55:40] conservative party. It has to offer
[55:42] something more. He wanted to turn it
[55:44] into a reform party. But McCain's
[55:46] argument goes up in smoke if Bush wins.
[55:50] But he still has to play the good
[55:52] soldier. We'll make that the good sailor
[55:54] because he was actually in the Navy if
[55:56] he wants to have a future in the
[55:57] Republican party.
[55:59] >> Well, to play the good sailor, he's got
[56:01] to have troops and ranks marching lock
[56:04] step as he supports George Bush. Let's
[56:07] look some of these McCain delegates in
[56:09] the eye. Down on the floor, John Keaton.
[56:12] >> Bernie, I'm standing in the Wyoming
[56:14] delegation. This is Dick Cheney country,
[56:16] but standing here with the one McCain
[56:17] delegate in the Wyoming delegation,
[56:19] Clark Stit. Clark's been telling us that
[56:21] he was never involved in presidential
[56:23] politics before, never active in a
[56:25] campaign before. He was in this campaign
[56:27] for John McCain. Clark, tell us why.
[56:30] John, the American people need to have
[56:32] confidence in their government. And it's
[56:34] only when we break the iron triangle of
[56:36] money, legislation, and lobbyists that
[56:39] we'll be able to have confidence in our
[56:40] government. And that's why I believe
[56:41] campaign finance reform is so important.
[56:44] Are you concerned now that Governor Bush
[56:46] has not put campaign finance reform at
[56:48] top his agenda and that the McCain
[56:49] voters like yourself and perhaps those
[56:51] not as closely affiliated with the
[56:53] Republican party might stay home or look
[56:54] elsewhere in November? Well, I believe
[56:57] that the issue is confidence in
[56:58] government and with Governor Bush, Dick
[57:00] Cheney, and Coen Pal at the helm, I
[57:02] believe Americans will have confidence
[57:04] in that government. What is your sense
[57:06] of the commitment of the government to
[57:08] that specific issue though, campaign
[57:09] finance reform? Well, I hope he has the
[57:12] power to make it a priority upon uh
[57:15] getting into the White House. It's not
[57:17] something he campaigned upon, but I
[57:18] believe it's something he could evolve
[57:20] toward. The state where John McCain put
[57:23] this issue on the map and first stunned
[57:25] Governor Bush was New Hampshire. Of
[57:26] course, Senator McCain launched his
[57:28] presidential effort with a big win in
[57:30] the New Hampshire primary over in the
[57:32] New Hampshire delegation or Frank Sesno.
[57:34] >> Thanks, John. And boy, they haven't
[57:35] forgotten John McCain in this
[57:37] delegation. He trounced George W. Bush
[57:39] in New Hampshire. I'm with two delegates
[57:41] here. They're McCain delegates. Kathy
[57:43] Flora, a state representative. Also,
[57:45] Richard Brothers. You're also a McCain
[57:47] delegate and a state representative.
[57:49] Kathy, let me start with you. You signed
[57:50] a piece of paper, your delegation today.
[57:53] What was that all about?
[57:54] >> This morning, we had to give our votes
[57:56] to George W. Bush and Dick Cheney.
[58:00] Sunday night, Senator McCain released
[58:01] his delegates. My heart when I came here
[58:05] still was tied to Senator McCain. When
[58:07] he released us, we all came on board
[58:09] with George W. Bush.
[58:10] >> Little difficult today signing that
[58:12] piece of paper.
[58:12] >> It was tough, but I wanted to pull
[58:14] together with my delegation at the same
[58:16] time. Senator McCain would want that
[58:18] from us.
[58:18] >> Richard, you were a very strong McCain
[58:20] backer. Do you see enough of a footprint
[58:22] here?
[58:23] >> Well, John McCain set our hearts on fire
[58:26] in New Hampshire. Those embers are still
[58:28] burning pretty brightly. Uh we'll we'll
[58:31] support George Bush because that's what
[58:32] John McCain has asked us to do. But we
[58:35] will forever love John McCain.
[58:37] >> And you were telling me a little while
[58:39] ago that among some Republicans in New
[58:41] Hampshire, they're not forgetting and
[58:42] they may not come November either.
[58:45] >> There are some Republicans that I have
[58:46] spoken to in in my hometown of Bedford
[58:50] who are telling me they're going to
[58:51] write in John McCain. We can't seem to
[58:54] shake it. There was a passion in New
[58:56] Hampshire. There still is a passion for
[58:58] reform in New Hampshire. And a lot of it
[59:00] has to do with that man.
[59:01] >> How are they going to vote? They may
[59:03] write in John McCain
[59:04] >> in the general election. Very
[59:06] interesting. Kathy Flora Richard, thanks
[59:09] very much. Let's go across the floor now
[59:11] to Gene.
[59:14] >> Frank, thank you. With me is Chris
[59:15] Healey. He was field director for the
[59:17] McCain effort in Connecticut. Chris, I
[59:19] can't help but notice you still have
[59:20] McCain buttons here on your shirt. Does
[59:22] that signify that your loyalty is still
[59:25] with John McCain?
[59:26] >> No, it's just a sign of respect. Um, all
[59:28] McCain delegates are committed to George
[59:30] Bush and we're committed to working just
[59:31] as hard for him as we did for John
[59:33] McCain and his platform.
[59:35] >> A lot of voters in Connecticut and
[59:37] elsewhere had real passion for McCain
[59:39] during the primary season. Can that sort
[59:41] of passion be easily transferred to your
[59:43] book?
[59:44] >> Absolutely. I mean, John McCain did this
[59:46] party in this country a great service. 5
[59:48] million people respond to that message.
[59:51] I believe those same 5 million are be
[59:52] just as working hard for uh George
[59:55] Bush's reform program because Al Gore is
[59:58] a clear and present danger. We're
[59:59] working today. We're going to be there
[60:01] for him in November.
[60:02] >> Chris Hilly, thanks so much for joining
[60:04] us. And now back up to the booth.
[60:06] >> Thank you very much. Gene reserve and
[60:08] you Cindy McCain were just smiling and
[60:12] empathizing with these people you
[60:14] obviously know down there in the floor
[60:16] just interviewed by our intrepid floor
[60:18] correspondents. They're all good friends
[60:20] of ours. They're very good friends.
[60:21] >> Now, let's be upfront.
[60:24] You say that you support George Bush.
[60:27] >> Absolutely.
[60:29] >> But is John McCain the better man?
[60:33] >> The primary process and the decision of
[60:35] the voters, the Republican voters made
[60:37] the decision to put George Bush as a
[60:39] nominee. And we support that because
[60:41] we're a part of the process and we
[60:43] respect the primary process. But I I
[60:45] mean as his wife in my heart I'm sure
[60:47] you understand where I come from. What
[60:50] are the delegates saying to you Cindy
[60:52] McCain when you talk to these people who
[60:55] originally were supporting what are they
[60:56] saying to you about the fact that
[60:58] somebody else is going to get this
[60:59] nomination. People are very supportive.
[61:02] Hundreds thousands of people have come
[61:04] up to me and said we we love the job
[61:06] that you did. We respect everything that
[61:08] you did. You did a great job. We loved
[61:09] your message of reform. Thank you for
[61:11] what you did. And I really appreciate
[61:13] that because that's part of what this
[61:15] process is about and that's part of the
[61:16] message that we tried to portray during
[61:18] the campaign.
[61:19] >> Do you want them to vote for him in
[61:20] November as it looks like some of them
[61:22] may be?
[61:22] >> Absolutely. We've spoken to all of those
[61:24] people personally and we asked them
[61:26] personally to please cast their vote for
[61:28] George Bush. But it was interesting