We're Talking Sports Ep. 24 - John Wilfert
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[2:00] >> ALL RIGHT. WELCOME TO another edition of
[2:03] We're Talking Sports with Will and Ron.
[2:05] >> Good morning.
[2:06] >> Here with my good friend Ron.
[2:08] >> Yeah.
[2:08] >> How are you, bud?
[2:09] >> I'm doing good.
[2:09] >> Yeah, long time no see.
[2:10] >> Yeah, yeah.
[2:11] >> Yeah. You look different for some
[2:13] reason.
[2:13] >> Oh, yeah?
[2:13] >> Yeah.
[2:14] >> I'm relaxed. I'm in the the co-pilot
[2:16] chair.
[2:17] >> chair?
[2:17] >> Yeah.
[2:18] >> Yeah, you're just enjoying the ride and
[2:19] >> Just enjoying the ride, yeah. I don't
[2:21] have to think about anything or
[2:23] >> Yeah. Yeah, so before we introduce our
[2:25] guest here, I just want to say
[2:27] um take a a moment of silence because
[2:29] today may be my last
[2:33] baseball season day.
[2:34] >> Yeah, yeah.
[2:36] >> Yeah, yep. Today my Dodgers may be
[2:38] swept.
[2:39] >> Yeah.
[2:40] >> Swept. I hope not.
[2:41] >> Swept. Swept, yeah. Swept Milwaukee.
[2:44] >> Okay.
[2:44] >> So, you know, what was I'm I'm hoping
[2:46] not.
[2:47] >> Okay.
[2:48] >> we don't get swept and we could take at
[2:49] least today's game and maybe one more.
[2:52] >> Okay.
[2:52] >> But, you know, I'm I'm
[2:56] >> I've got a little tear.
[2:58] >> Yeah.
[2:58] >> You might be on vacation after this.
[3:00] >> Yeah, that's what you're saying.
[3:01] >> I may have to start watching that
[3:02] football stuff now.
[3:04] >> Well, that's good. Yeah. Now, we'll
[3:06] we'll have something to talk about.
[3:08] >> have something to talk about. Now, we
[3:09] can do a real a real sports podcast.
[3:11] >> There you go, yeah.
[3:12] >> Yeah.
[3:13] >> Yeah. Hey, speaking of real sports
[3:15] podcast,
[3:16] we got a guy here who could probably
[3:18] just host his own his own show
[3:20] somewhere, you know?
[3:21] >> Yeah, yeah.
[3:22] >> Yeah.
[3:23] >> He's a good guy to have on.
[3:24] >> He is, you know, we we refer to him as
[3:25] coach.
[3:26] >> Mhm.
[3:27] >> Um coach John as a matter of fact.
[3:28] Coach, welcome to the program.
[3:30] >> Well, thank you so much and thanks for
[3:31] the introduction. I don't know if I need
[3:32] to pay you now to be my agent or pay you
[3:34] later, but anyhow, I enjoy the
[3:36] introduction and I always enjoy your
[3:37] show and it's always a lot of fun.
[3:39] >> Well, you know, I prefer you pay me now.
[3:40] >> Okay. That's always insurance guys. They
[3:42] want the money up front, right? And then
[3:44] the deductible comes later.
[3:46] >> Right. Absolutely, yeah.
[3:48] Yes, sir.
[3:49] >> You know how he works, yeah.
[3:50] >> I know exactly how insurance people
[3:51] work. They're all the same. They want
[3:53] the money up front and then you never
[3:54] see them when there's ever a problem.
[3:56] >> You know what? You could see me all the
[3:57] time.
[3:57] >> No, I see you. You're one of the good
[3:59] guys. We like you because you're
[4:00] actually around when we do need help.
[4:02] And we appreciate that.
[4:04] >> Well, thank you for the kind words.
[4:05] We're even now.
[4:06] >> Okay, we're even. We're even. Okay.
[4:08] >> There'll be no more discussions.
[4:08] >> have you can have your agent talk to my
[4:10] agent and we'll see what we can get
[4:11] done.
[4:11] >> Well, we'll we'll we'll see about that.
[4:13] Yeah, but hey, thanks for joining us
[4:14] again as as you know
[4:16] a real friend of the program.
[4:18] >> Mhm.
[4:18] >> Um
[4:19] >> Yeah.
[4:19] >> you know, you covered for me a couple
[4:20] weeks ago when I was out. Uh
[4:22] So yeah.
[4:23] >> I enjoyed it. I don't know if I can
[4:24] cover for you, but I definitely stepped
[4:26] in and tried. So that's for sure. But I
[4:27] do feel your pain tonight a little bit
[4:29] with the Dodgers, but we are at home. So
[4:31] we're hoping that maybe you know that
[4:33] 0-3 we can get on the win column and
[4:35] kind of get on
[4:36] >> home last night, too. So
[4:37] >> Yeah, that that didn't quite turn out
[4:39] the way we wanted, but uh
[4:40] >> the first pitch of the game is a home
[4:41] run
[4:42] >> Oh, yeah. That doesn't That doesn't
[4:44] happen very often, but yeah, that's not
[4:45] the exactly the way you want to start a
[4:47] game is throwing the first pitch. I
[4:49] don't know I think maybe he should have
[4:50] warmed up a little bit more.
[4:51] >> I I I think he probably just should have
[4:53] thrown it down the middle. You know,
[4:55] that's what I'm thinking. A fastball
[4:57] down the middle probably isn't the best
[4:58] pitch to open the
[5:00] >> I don't think you're going to see that
[5:01] tonight. I think the first pitch
[5:02] probably going to be a curveball slider
[5:03] or something inside, but it's not going
[5:05] to be a fastball down the middle.
[5:06] >> it's something high and tight, you know.
[5:09] Just something right inside that's going
[5:10] to, you know, make them duck or
[5:12] something. Just to
[5:12] >> Yeah, put a little fear back into them.
[5:14] I don't think that they're I don't think
[5:15] their batters are actually fearing the
[5:17] pitching right now at all. And we
[5:18] obviously have slow bats. So we got to
[5:21] do something to kind of get things
[5:23] rolling in our direction. So think maybe
[5:25] a little few inside pitches to get back
[5:27] them off a little bit.
[5:28] >> sorry. Hold on one second. Ron, we're
[5:29] talking baseball right now.
[5:30] >> Oh.
[5:31] >> Just so you Just so you know, we're
[5:32] talking baseball.
[5:33] >> I I didn't understand anything, yeah. I
[5:35] thought you still talking about
[5:36] insurance or something.
[5:37] >> Foreign language, I know.
[5:39] >> No, yeah. So we'll see how today's game
[5:40] go. I mean, it's uh
[5:42] you know, there's been a lot of
[5:44] a lot of talk about, you know, cuz
[5:46] Ohtani's obviously been struggling big
[5:48] >> big time. I mean, you know, he's hurt.
[5:50] >> You know, he's
[5:51] >> He's hurt. I think that people don't
[5:52] understand that. They're trying to
[5:53] They're professional athletes and they
[5:54] try to play through it, but they you
[5:56] know, they're still nagging injuries and
[5:57] things that that affect you and and I
[5:59] don't know if everybody always
[6:00] understands that.
[6:01] >> Right. And everyone's calling that, "Why
[6:03] why aren't they benching him? Why aren't
[6:05] they, you know, I mean, how do you bench
[6:06] somebody like that though?" You know
[6:07] what I'm saying?
[6:07] >> know if you can bench somebody. First of
[6:09] all, a lot of people pay, first of all,
[6:10] to come see him and so that's part of
[6:12] it. Back in like when Michael Jordan was
[6:14] playing and you know, even when there's
[6:15] games when he wasn't feeling well,
[6:17] they'd still put him in to play because,
[6:19] you know, people want to pay a lot of
[6:20] money for those tickets. They want to
[6:21] see him, but also, he's still probably
[6:24] hurt. He's still probably better than a
[6:25] lot of guys. So, you got to think about
[6:27] what's best. I mean, obviously you don't
[6:29] want to jeopardize
[6:30] a season-ending injury or anything like
[6:32] that, but if it's a nagging injury and
[6:34] they can play through it, you know,
[6:35] sometimes it's worth it to try to put
[6:37] them out there and let them see what
[6:37] they can do because they do have
[6:39] explosive power. It only takes one or
[6:41] two swings of the bat and bang, you you
[6:43] you know, you got two three four runs on
[6:45] the board.
[6:45] >> And that could change the series.
[6:46] >> Yeah, that changes it. A little momentum
[6:48] here and there is is you know,
[6:50] baseball's a game of all all sports are
[6:51] game of momentum.
[6:52] >> Yeah.
[6:52] >> And so you just got to get a swing here
[6:54] or there and, you know, somebody throws
[6:55] a softy up there to the plate and he
[6:57] whacks it out of there with a couple
[6:58] guys on base and you never know what's
[6:59] going to happen after that.
[7:01] >> Yeah, no, I got you. All right, let's
[7:02] include Ron in the conversation.
[7:04] >> I'm enjoying the conversation.
[7:05] >> go to Should we go to football then? Or
[7:07] I mean, what's like What's great about
[7:08] this time of year is you got you got the
[7:11] WNBA finals going on. You got the NBA
[7:13] starting. Got
[7:15] uh you got the hockey season going. You
[7:16] got baseball going and you got the NFL.
[7:18] >> Yeah.
[7:18] >> So, you got all six things going on
[7:20] right now. This is the only time of year
[7:21] right now
[7:22] and college football, which is yeah, I
[7:24] call college football. I mean, college
[7:25] football is just off the chart
[7:27] >> Yeah.
[7:27] >> I mean, you know, the rivalry games that
[7:30] are coming up, the you know, the
[7:31] notoriety, the TV exposure. I mean, just
[7:34] good games. You know, early in the
[7:35] season you got, you know, you got the
[7:37] ABC team, Northwest Directional team
[7:39] playing Alabama, but now you got Georgia
[7:41] versus Alabama. You got some good games
[7:43] You got conference games are solid, so
[7:45] yeah, we love it.
[7:46] >> This is the time of year when the the
[7:48] the college football
[7:51] games are like you want to watch them.
[7:53] >> Yeah.
[7:53] >> And the problem is that you want to
[7:54] watch all of them. And when they're
[7:56] playing against each other, you need one
[7:58] of those multi-screen TVs,
[7:59] >> Right. Yeah.
[8:00] >> to try and watch that because there's
[8:02] some really good games happening.
[8:03] >> Sure. Oh, there's some great games. And
[8:04] like you said, multi-screen TVs, that's
[8:06] why I think a lot of people go to the
[8:07] bars cuz they can see like seven
[8:08] different TVs and things like that
[8:10] because they just, you know, there's too
[8:11] many great plays going on all at one
[8:13] time, you know, with too many good
[8:14] teams. I mean, you got 20, 25 really
[8:17] talented teams that are are fighting for
[8:19] 12 spots to get into the playoffs this
[8:21] year. It's going to be interesting cuz
[8:22] that's the first time we're uh
[8:24] >> Let's talk about that. Let's talk about
[8:25] the playoffs.
[8:25] >> Yeah, 12-team tournament playoffs. So, I
[8:27] don't know who you guys think are going
[8:28] to get in, but uh I am hoping our
[8:30] Wildcats can get in there.
[8:31] >> Yeah, that would be great.
[8:32] >> That'd be really good, yeah.
[8:33] >> You know, they got two opportunities.
[8:34] They can either go in as a There's you
[8:36] know, they take the they take the
[8:37] conference winners
[8:39] >> Mhm.
[8:39] >> and then they take the best at-large
[8:41] non-conference power team, and then that
[8:43] makes up that makes up a part of it. And
[8:45] then the other s- those That's five, and
[8:47] then the other seven are are drafted.
[8:49] They got a committee now that drafts
[8:51] basically the other seven teams. So,
[8:53] there'll be 12 teams going to the
[8:55] playoffs. And uh that's going to be kind
[8:57] of interesting cuz this is the first
[8:59] year that they're going to use some of
[9:01] the bowl games as uh opportunities for
[9:03] these teams to play at. Obviously, the
[9:05] first four teams, I don't know how well
[9:07] you guys know the playoff system yet,
[9:08] but
[9:09] >> It just came out.
[9:10] >> four teams are all going to get byes.
[9:12] So, whoever However the seeding
[9:13] committee, the NCAA tournament committee
[9:15] decides the first four teams are, they
[9:18] will get a bye in the first round, and
[9:20] then teams five through 12 will play
[9:22] each other. And five through 12 will
[9:24] play each other at the home site, the
[9:25] higher team's home site. So, seed number
[9:27] five, six, seven, and eight will all
[9:30] have home games against obviously five
[9:32] will play 12,
[9:34] >> Yeah.
[9:34] >> you know, six will play 11, seven
[9:36] >> cool. Yeah, that's an opportunity to
[9:38] have another home game.
[9:39] >> Yeah, it's a great opportunity for
[9:40] another home game. And and I think you
[9:42] know, it's kind of they took a little
[9:43] bit of the basketball, you know,
[9:44] philosophy with March Madness and they
[9:46] kind of incorporated a little bit with
[9:47] football. So, yeah, I I'm excited. I
[9:49] think this is the first time we're
[9:50] really going to have a chance to say
[9:52] we've gotten, you know, we went through
[9:53] an actual playoff system that was really
[9:55] legit with a lot of good teams in it cuz
[9:57] you know,
[9:58] >> we've had four in the past, but this
[10:00] time we got 12 really good teams. I'm
[10:01] sure there's going to be arguments just
[10:03] like even like in basketball when you
[10:04] get 68 teams, you know, there's still
[10:06] those 60 69, 70, 71, 72, 73 that are all
[10:10] arguing that they should be in.
[10:11] >> Sure.
[10:11] >> We're going to have number 13, 14, 15 to
[10:13] 25 still arguing that they should be in.
[10:15] >> yeah.
[10:16] >> But they're going to use the bowl games,
[10:18] um, obviously to, uh, for the teams that
[10:22] not the first round. The first round,
[10:23] like I said, the first round games will
[10:24] all be at the home team's site. But then
[10:27] they're going to use the Peach, the
[10:28] Orange, and the Rose Bowl. And those top
[10:31] four teams, the number one team will get
[10:32] to pick their location of where they
[10:34] want to play. Number two will get to
[10:35] pick their spot. Number three will get
[10:36] to pick their spot. Number four will get
[10:38] to
[10:38] >> That's really different that they
[10:38] actually get to pick.
[10:39] >> Yeah, that's going to be interesting how
[10:41] that turns out because obviously
[10:43] location, I mean, you know, um, you
[10:46] location has a little bit to do with it,
[10:47] I would think. Obviously, if you're a
[10:48] West Coast team, I would think you'd
[10:50] probably want to play in the Rose Bowl,
[10:51] you know.
[10:52] >> Yeah.
[10:52] >> If you're from Atlanta or Georgia, you
[10:54] probably want to play
[10:55] >> in the Peach Bowl.
[10:55] >> Peach Bowl probably. So, yeah, so
[10:57] there's a little bit of that going on, I
[10:59] think, you know. So, we'll see how the
[11:00] dynamics all play out, but
[11:02] >> Right.
[11:02] >> what an exciting time of year this year
[11:04] right now with all the sports going on
[11:06] and like you said, football right now is
[11:07] just off the chart with the great games
[11:09] that are going on out there.
[11:10] >> Yeah, I don't even know, like, who to
[11:12] watch.
[11:14] >> Well, you watch them all. That's the
[11:15] thing is you get consumed by all of
[11:17] them.
[11:17] >> Mhm.
[11:18] >> Yeah, absolutely. And you start clicking
[11:19] through and okay, in that back channel
[11:22] to see what, you know, what the other
[11:24] team is doing and yeah, there's nothing
[11:26] I mean, there's nothing like college
[11:27] football.
[11:28] >> Oh, yeah.
[11:28] >> Love it.
[11:29] >> Yeah, that that is It's great, you know.
[11:30] >> Yeah.
[11:31] >> But uh, so let's talk a little bit about
[11:33] um
[11:34] uh of A football, man. So, they had a
[11:36] great game last week, right?
[11:37] >> did. They did, yeah.
[11:39] >> Yeah. Uh you were able to see the game?
[11:40] >> I wasn't able to see the game, and I I
[11:43] actually I didn't record it. I was going
[11:44] to record it, and I just didn't. So,
[11:46] >> Okay.
[11:46] >> yeah.
[11:47] >> So, like me, you caught the highlights.
[11:48] >> Saw some highlights, yeah. Listen some
[11:50] stuff, read some stuff, but yeah. Yeah,
[11:52] what a offensive output that they had.
[11:54] >> Yeah, that that was crazy when I when I
[11:56] checked into it at uh
[11:58] you know, just before the half, I was
[12:00] like, "Wow."
[12:00] >> Yeah.
[12:02] >> They uh they were just
[12:03] >> just exploded, yeah.
[12:05] >> Yeah. So, um Coach John, I know that
[12:07] you're you know, you really studied this
[12:09] game and
[12:09] >> you're exactly right. I think you hit
[12:11] the nail on the head. I mean, we're
[12:12] really explosive offense. We have a lot
[12:14] of Noah can really Noah creates a
[12:16] problem for a lot of teams because you
[12:18] can't just blitz him because he's got
[12:20] speed, he can run. We've got speed on
[12:22] the outside with our receivers, so it
[12:24] makes it really tough for teams to
[12:26] decide what they're going to do. So, our
[12:27] offense of explosiveness through the
[12:29] passing game is off the charts. And one
[12:31] of the things I think that makes us
[12:33] really, really competitive this year
[12:35] compared to years in the past is our
[12:38] third down efficiency this year is
[12:40] almost 60-some percent. So, we're we're
[12:43] killing it when it comes down to third
[12:44] down conversion. So, um we're holding
[12:47] our opponents to under 40%, and we're
[12:50] we're over 60, almost 65%
[12:53] >> Wow.
[12:53] >> down conversion. So, that's a lot of
[12:55] good play calling, plus that's also
[12:56] putting us in probably good situations.
[12:59] A third and three is a lot different
[13:00] than a third and 10
[13:01] >> Exactly. If you can
[13:02] have a manageable
[13:03] >> We can have a manageable yards and down
[13:06] situation, it obviously makes it a lot
[13:08] better. But, our explosiveness on
[13:10] offense, I mean, we're averaging 35.7
[13:12] points per game, and we're only you
[13:14] know, we're giving up 19. So, and you
[13:17] know, Danny Gonzales on the defense,
[13:19] they've made a lot of adjustments. If
[13:20] you look at our stats over the last, you
[13:23] know, all the games so far this year,
[13:25] you know, he's very rarely let a team
[13:27] even score a touchdown in the second
[13:28] half. So, I think they've only scored
[13:30] one touchdown against us in the second
[13:32] half. I mean, he's made adjustments at
[13:33] halftime, and I think that's a lot of
[13:35] credit to our coaching staff. Our
[13:36] coaching staff has really made some
[13:38] adjustments and everything. We've kind
[13:40] of started out slow sometimes, you know,
[13:41] even even with Northern Illinois, we
[13:44] kind of got behind early, and we we've
[13:46] started out slow in a couple games. And
[13:48] then we've obviously, you know, kind of
[13:49] figured things out. We've made
[13:51] adjustments. Halftime has come along,
[13:53] and then we've just turned the
[13:54] afterburners on second half and kind of
[13:56] with our explosive offense and the
[13:57] ability to pass now. It's going to be a
[13:59] little bit different against Iowa State
[14:01] cuz they're kind of a run team. So,
[14:02] we're going to have to be able to stop
[14:03] them because, you know, obviously, when
[14:05] you're dealing with run teams, you you
[14:07] give up a little bit more time of
[14:09] possession, and so that's the problem.
[14:11] So, we don't want our defense out there
[14:13] long periods of time to wear out and
[14:15] things like that. So, it's going to be
[14:16] our offense
[14:17] basically passing game against their
[14:19] running game. So,
[14:20] >> Yeah. So, you know, you talk about the
[14:23] Arizona's passing game.
[14:25] But, they have a pretty good running
[14:27] game as well.
[14:28] >> Yeah, we do. I mean, we're not we're not
[14:29] shabby in that category at all. I mean,
[14:32] you know, we're we're we're we're able
[14:33] to hold our own for sure, but it really
[14:36] comes down to our passing game that
[14:37] opens up our running game. So, but yeah,
[14:40] I agree with you. Our our running game
[14:42] is good, too, and and so, you know,
[14:44] that's what makes us so good. That's why
[14:45] we're five and one, and we're two and
[14:46] one in the Big 12, and you know,
[14:48] obviously, you know, we had a loss to
[14:49] BYU, and we still got we still got a
[14:51] couple tough games. This Iowa State team
[14:53] was really good at the beginning of the
[14:54] year. I mean, they're three and three
[14:55] right now, but they were they were
[14:57] picked pretty high at the beginning of
[14:59] the year, and we still got a couple
[15:00] tough ones left, you know, we still got
[15:01] some top 20 teams we still got to play,
[15:03] you know, we still we still got Utah on
[15:05] the schedule, Texas Tech on the
[15:07] schedule, and then you never know what's
[15:09] going to happen on a rivalry game with
[15:10] ASU. I mean, those are always, you know,
[15:12] pick 'em games.
[15:13] >> don't count.
[15:14] >> in those games don't count at all.
[15:16] >> Yeah.
[15:16] >> We are playing that one at home this
[15:18] year, though.
[15:18] >> We are.
[15:18] >> That has helped. There's no doubt. I
[15:20] love it, and you know, it doesn't mean
[15:21] that there's not going to be a bunch of
[15:23] ASU fans in there.
[15:24] >> crowd
[15:25] >> Let's let's talk a little bit about that
[15:27] home field advantage that we should
[15:28] have, um, coach.
[15:29] >> Mhm.
[15:30] >> Um
[15:31] you know, I've gone to a couple of
[15:32] games, you know, that Ron's invited me
[15:34] to and uh
[15:36] you know, one thing I've noticed is that
[15:38] the fans here in Tucson don't seem to
[15:40] really represent that well.
[15:42] >> Well, I think yeah, I don't know what it
[15:45] is. I know coach is really trying to get
[15:47] a lot of fans out there and we're we're
[15:49] fourth or fifth overall in the Big 12 in
[15:51] attendance. So, we're averaging I I
[15:53] looked it up last night about 42,000 or
[15:56] something like that. Our stadium holds
[15:57] about 50, a little over 50. So,
[15:59] obviously we'd like to see it packed,
[16:01] but um I think a little bit of that is
[16:03] you know, we're so used to like in
[16:05] basketball winning that we don't
[16:07] sometimes get so excited about I mean
[16:10] we're just in basketball we're our
[16:11] tradition has just been winning and we
[16:12] get a lot of older gray-haired people
[16:14] sometimes that come to the game and I
[16:16] think they're just used to like, you
[16:18] know, the golf clap, you know, you they
[16:20] you they're they're really where where
[16:21] you get, you know, some people that are
[16:23] really excited, they have a tendency to
[16:25] jump up and down and scream and yell.
[16:26] But our atmosphere, I went to the last
[16:28] game, I was sitting uh about four or
[16:30] five rows up on on the home side um at
[16:33] this last game at home and I'll tell you
[16:35] I did see a lot of people start to get
[16:37] really excited. So, I'm hoping some of
[16:38] that energy and synergy is coming back
[16:40] because we could really use it against
[16:42] Iowa State. if we can make this a tough
[16:44] tough tough place to play, you know, we
[16:46] get it's going to help. It help the kids
[16:47] want to kids want that. Kids want to
[16:49] When they recruit want to come here, you
[16:51] know, when they come here on a
[16:52] recruiting trip cuz you know, there's
[16:53] going to be kids here the next few home
[16:55] games, recruit recruits and everything,
[16:57] they're going to want to see how our
[16:58] fans react and I tell you, we do have
[17:00] great fans and we've had great fans for
[17:02] years and years and years. We just got
[17:04] to get them out there and and kind of
[17:05] get that excitement going.
[17:06] >> Yeah. Yeah. And as far as like the the
[17:08] student body there
[17:10] >> Oh.
[17:11] >> Yeah.
[17:11] >> You know, you know, I
[17:14] years ago, I used to go to you know, I
[17:17] lived in Austin and I used to go to
[17:18] Texas games.
[17:19] >> Yeah.
[17:19] >> And I mean the student that'd be more
[17:21] students there than probably, you know,
[17:25] parents, you know, students and and then
[17:26] parents, stuff like that.
[17:28] >> Yeah.
[17:28] >> You know, here you don't see like the
[17:30] student section isn't a big section.
[17:33] >> No, it's not and I don't know why that
[17:36] is. I guess
[17:37] um you know, we have so many things to
[17:39] do. We're not the only only thing going
[17:41] on for students. I mean obviously, you
[17:44] know, they have they have um hiking and
[17:45] biking outdoor activities, things like
[17:47] that. Um we also have a tendency because
[17:50] of the weather, we play a lot of late
[17:52] night games and students have a tendency
[17:55] to pre-party and so that I think they
[17:57] start with good intentions of part
[17:58] pre-partying and
[18:00] then they don't make it. I think it's
[18:01] part of it. So, you know, because of the
[18:03] weather situation,
[18:03] >> I
[18:05] don't know why this is a great question.
[18:07] Well, I don't know why we don't take
[18:08] more advantage. Um we practice in the
[18:10] heat all the time. You know, you talk
[18:12] about teams that, you know, the Boston
[18:13] Garden back in the day, they would turn
[18:15] the heat up in there. They would do
[18:17] things for home field advantage. We
[18:18] absolutely do nothing to try to Now,
[18:21] part of that is for our fans because if
[18:22] you play an afternoon game in 110°
[18:25] weather, some of our fans probably
[18:26] aren't going to show up. So, I I kind of
[18:29] get both sides of it, but for a player's
[18:30] perspective, what a home field advantage
[18:33] if we're practicing every day at 3:00,
[18:35] 4:00 in the afternoon in the heat,
[18:37] >> Right.
[18:37] >> we could definitely you play a team
[18:39] from, you know, way up north and they're
[18:41] not used to that heat. They come in here
[18:43] and play a 1:00 game.
[18:45] >> Yeah.
[18:45] >> They're going to be like gasping and
[18:46] they're going to be sweating and you
[18:48] know, that's a huge home home field
[18:50] advantage. But then again, as from an AD
[18:52] perspective, what are you doing to your
[18:54] fans, you know, how many fans want to
[18:56] want to Now, I I worked at I worked at
[18:59] Washington State and was in their
[19:00] athletic department. We had to play
[19:02] afternoon games because our students
[19:04] would absolutely party way too hard and
[19:06] if we played a night game, we had way
[19:07] too many arrests and problems like that.
[19:09] So, so there's a kind of a balance that
[19:11] have to kind of really think about that.
[19:13] I mean, I don't think the average person
[19:15] thinks about all the dynamics that go
[19:17] into that because I mean, there's some
[19:18] advantages to playing an afternoon game
[19:20] in the heat, but you know, for your
[19:21] fans' perspective, that's maybe not
[19:23] ideal. But you play a night game and
[19:25] then you run into the student
[19:27] perspective where they have a tendency
[19:28] to have too much fun before the game and
[19:30] then not show up. So, there's a little
[19:32] bit of a dynamics on both sides.
[19:34] >> Yeah.
[19:35] >> Well, that's interesting.
[19:35] >> Yeah.
[19:36] >> Yeah.
[19:37] Yeah. I mean,
[19:37] >> I'm sure they've done some research.
[19:39] >> They have. I mean, a lot of people We
[19:40] did a lot of research when I was at
[19:41] Washington State because you know, like
[19:43] I said, we we wanted to have night
[19:45] games, but we just found out there was
[19:46] just too many police reports and arrests
[19:49] and things like that because there was
[19:50] just too much time for those kids to
[19:52] >> anything else to do in Pullman?
[19:53] >> Yeah, there's nothing else to do in
[19:54] Pullman. You are right about that. There
[19:56] was not a lot to do in Pullman. So, here
[19:58] they got a lot more options. It's a lot
[20:00] It's a lot different.
[20:01] >> There is a lot to do in Austin, too.
[20:03] >> Yeah.
[20:03] >> You know, I mean, there there is a lot
[20:05] to do in Austin, but it just seems like
[20:07] and even even even now, you you see in
[20:09] in maybe it's just the illusion of how
[20:11] they're shooting the the the TV shots,
[20:14] but you know, when you see like the
[20:15] College Game Day,
[20:17] >> Mhm.
[20:17] >> you know, and they're doing you know,
[20:19] they're they're before the games,
[20:21] they're you know, there seem to be a lot
[20:22] of
[20:23] >> thousands
[20:24] >> of people out there, right?
[20:25] >> And then also during the games and they
[20:27] they show you know, the stadium. I mean,
[20:29] it's just packed. You know, they do the
[20:31] up close up close stuff of the of the
[20:33] student body and they're they're all
[20:35] just going crazy. They're in face paint.
[20:37] They're in you know, in their colors,
[20:40] you know,
[20:41] >> Right.
[20:41] >> I'd love to see Arizona like that.
[20:43] >> Oh, yeah.
[20:44] >> to see that.
[20:45] >> But here, Will, think about this, too,
[20:46] okay? So, I mean, you take Texas, okay?
[20:48] Who'd they play in the preseason? They
[20:50] played Ohio State, right? We're playing
[20:52] like an NAU and some schools like that.
[20:55] And we're doing it obviously because
[20:56] we're not quite at that level yet. So,
[20:58] we Coaches are scared to lose a bunch of
[21:00] non-conference games because you're
[21:02] going to It's going to affect your, you
[21:04] know, whether you keep your job, a lot
[21:05] of different factors. So, there's a lot
[21:07] of things that go into that because, you
[21:10] know, I Austin I don't think, you know,
[21:12] Steve's going to be worried about losing
[21:13] his job at Texas if he loses a
[21:15] non-conference game or even, you know,
[21:17] that type of thing because he's still,
[21:18] you know, a national powerhouse team.
[21:20] Now, he's taking some heat right now
[21:21] from losing to Oklahoma this last week,
[21:23] but but, you know, I mean, if had he
[21:26] lost to Ohio State, lost to Oklahoma,
[21:29] he'd be taking a lot more heat. So, I
[21:31] think who you play in the preseason has
[21:33] something to do with that, too. I don't
[21:34] know how many people, you know, are even
[21:37] knew what Northern Illinois' nickname
[21:39] was and where they're located. You know
[21:41] much of anything about it. So, so it's
[21:43] hard to get fans excited about something
[21:46] they don't know something about. Does
[21:47] that make sense? I mean, if you're
[21:48] playing Ohio State, I mean,
[21:50] you're Are you calling Are you calling
[21:52] them The Ohio State or are you calling
[21:54] them Ohio State based on, you know, your
[21:56] background and things like that, right?
[21:58] So, there's a big difference in in in
[22:00] preseason and who you're playing. Now,
[22:01] sometimes we have to pay teams to come
[22:03] in here and play us because we you know,
[22:05] we need wins and then the Board of
[22:06] Regents, which is great and has done a
[22:09] phenomenal job, but we're required to
[22:11] play NAU every other year. So, there's
[22:13] one game right there that, you know, I
[22:15] don't know how much our fans are going
[22:17] to get excited about, you know, watching
[22:19] us play NAU. Now, NAU did beat us a few
[22:21] years ago.
[22:22] >> They did. They did.
[22:24] I was there. Yeah.
[22:25] >> Yeah, and so it does happen, but but I
[22:28] don't know I think to your point, Will,
[22:29] I think, you know, University of Texas
[22:31] is playing people that are, you know,
[22:33] household names and Arizona maybe
[22:35] playing like NAU and
[22:36] >> All right. So, so what big names do we
[22:38] have coming into town?
[22:40] >> Well, the rest of the teams are
[22:41] conference games.
[22:42] >> games now. So, we have conference the
[22:44] rest of the way. I mean, we still have
[22:45] some great conference opponents. We got
[22:47] Iowa State coming up. We got a bye this
[22:48] week. Then we got Iowa State coming up,
[22:50] but we still got Utah who's ranked in
[22:52] the top 10 20 and we still got we still
[22:55] got Texas Tech who's loaded and so we
[22:58] still got some tough ones at home. I
[23:00] mean, Texas Tech is on
[23:01] Excuse me, Texas Tech is on the road but
[23:04] um but yeah, we still got some tough
[23:06] ones. That's for sure.
[23:07] >> Okay.
[23:07] >> Yeah, we have TCU coming up.
[23:09] >> TCU, yeah.
[23:10] >> Um
[23:11] Do we have Baylor at home? I'm not sure.
[23:13] >> No, I don't think we have Baylor. I have
[23:14] to look real quick but I
[23:17] but we still got you know, we still got
[23:18] Arizona State, we got TCU, we got Utah
[23:21] and we got Texas Tech and Texas Tech and
[23:24] Utah like I said before were they're
[23:26] both ranked and then obviously you throw
[23:27] out the rankings anytime you play ASU
[23:30] because you know, it's just a rivalry.
[23:31] >> So I guess my next question would be
[23:32] then during rivalry game.
[23:35] >> Sure.
[23:35] >> ASU.
[23:37] I I have not been to
[23:38] >> Uh stadium will be full.
[23:39] >> The stadium will be packed.
[23:41] Unfortunately part is we can't control
[23:44] all the tickets in that situation. So
[23:46] there are and in those situations okay,
[23:49] we would probably sell it out by
[23:50] ourselves but unfortunately a lot of ASU
[23:52] people come down by our tickets.
[23:54] >> That's That's fine. That's You still
[23:56] should have the majority of you know
[23:58] >> Yeah, yeah, we'll have we'll have
[23:59] majority people and they'll be going
[24:01] crazy and it'll be the atmosphere for
[24:02] that game is unbelievable. That's That's
[24:04] the atmosphere like you're talking about
[24:06] like Texas
[24:07] >> what that's what I would that's what I
[24:08] would love to see
[24:10] every game, you know. I mean regardless
[24:12] of who you're playing to get
[24:14] Don't get excited for who they're
[24:15] playing. Get excited for your team.
[24:17] >> Yeah, I agree but remember also ASU's
[24:19] bringing down probably 5 6 7 8,000
[24:22] people and if we're averaging 43 and
[24:24] they're bringing seven that fills our
[24:26] stadium where you play NAU or NIU
[24:30] >> Northern Illinois whatever it is.
[24:32] >> You know, they're only bringing like 200
[24:33] people, you know.
[24:34] >> Yeah, but
[24:35] from what I've seen and again you the
[24:37] average you said is how much is their
[24:39] attendance?
[24:39] >> We're averaging about 43,000 I think
[24:41] right now.
[24:41] >> is that paid attendance or that actually
[24:43] showing up?
[24:43] >> I don't know that.
[24:44] >> You know, that's paid attendance. That's
[24:46] not what's actually showing up. I see
[24:49] in these games that I've gone to I've
[24:51] seen a lot of empty seats.
[24:53] >> You do. You have a lot of corporate
[24:54] tickets that don't get filled all the
[24:55] time.
[24:56] >> Correct. And you have students that come
[24:57] for the first, you know, quarter. I
[24:59] watch the student section and they'll
[25:00] come for the first quarter and then
[25:01] they're gone.
[25:02] >> Yeah.
[25:02] >> You know, I mean,
[25:04] the AD a few year burns and live and
[25:05] good, those guys have tried to do some
[25:07] things to they give away incentives now
[25:08] for the students if they stay till the
[25:10] >> to have fourth quarter incentives, yeah.
[25:11] >> incentives where they give them, you
[25:13] know, Walkman, iPads, all these things,
[25:15] but, you know, it still doesn't keep
[25:16] them from it just still doesn't keep
[25:18] them from partying and leaving early.
[25:20] >> Yeah.
[25:21] >> Yeah.
[25:21] >> Well, that's a shame.
[25:22] >> It is a shame.
[25:23] >> It is.
[25:23] >> Because, you know, you want those kids
[25:25] to have an environment to play. As an
[25:27] athlete and a former player, I loved a
[25:29] full house. I didn't care if I was
[25:30] playing on the road or at home, I loved
[25:32] a full house. That the excitement is
[25:34] there, the enthusiasm there. We're we're
[25:36] able to also, I think one of the things
[25:38] that's that's different is some remember
[25:40] right now, sometimes even our our games
[25:42] on TV sometimes are on like Peacock and
[25:45] on on different channels. So, sometimes
[25:47] it's hard for people to follow us and
[25:49] get to know our players and everything
[25:51] when you're when you you maybe you don't
[25:53] have the Peacock channel. When we used
[25:54] to have
[25:55] >> Yeah.
[25:55] >> you're on ABC, NBC, CBS, ESPN, you know,
[25:58] like Texas is on almost every week on
[26:00] ESPN. All the alumni guys can follow
[26:03] Everybody knows who their players are
[26:04] cuz they can see them every week.
[26:06] >> Yeah.
[26:06] >> We have a different thing with our with
[26:08] our TV package and we get, you know,
[26:10] we're sometimes we're on Peacock. Like I
[26:12] I had a hard time I had to go to one of
[26:13] the bars one time to watch the game cuz
[26:14] I was like I didn't even have that
[26:16] channel.
[26:16] >> Yeah.
[26:16] >> And so that makes a big difference where
[26:18] in Texas every one of their games is on
[26:20] a national channel.
[26:21] >> Yeah.
[26:22] >> So, that makes a little bit of a
[26:23] difference because once the familiarity
[26:25] Once you get to know, you know, the
[26:27] running backs and the wide receivers
[26:29] >> Start cheering for them more, yeah.
[26:30] >> You feel that you feel that you feel
[26:32] that impact with them and you feel that
[26:33] emotional attachment to that person.
[26:35] >> Right.
[26:36] >> And we don't necessarily always have
[26:37] that because we're not always on
[26:39] national TV. So, basketball does cuz
[26:41] they they get quite a few national TV
[26:43] games and people and there's just more
[26:44] games. That's the other thing,
[26:46] basketball has more games, so.
[26:47] >> All right.
[26:48] >> Cool. Well, we're going to take a break
[26:49] right now and then when we come back
[26:51] we're going to switch over to the
[26:53] the basketball that we're talking about
[26:54] here. All right. All right, we'll be
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[29:38] >> All right, welcome back to We're Talking
[29:39] Sports with Will and Ron. Now, we're
[29:41] talking with our good buddy here Coach
[29:43] John.
[29:44] And who pretty much knows everything U
[29:48] of A.
[29:48] >> Yeah.
[29:49] >> Right? And college
[29:50] >> about everything.
[29:51] >> I don't know. I wish you guys were
[29:53] right, but I tell you what, I'll pay you
[29:54] each later, so that's for sure.
[29:56] >> Excellent. The plan is working, Will.
[29:58] >> We're further than now.
[29:59] >> Like I said,
[30:00] I know insurance guys want the money
[30:02] right now. I get it. I get it.
[30:03] >> Absolutely, yeah. Yeah, so coach, let's
[30:05] turn this a little bit over here to some
[30:07] U of A basketball.
[30:09] Um you know, the preseason has started.
[30:11] >> Yeah, we started off. We had a big win
[30:13] against San Francisco the other night.
[30:15] Obviously, a lot of young new faces that
[30:16] are out there and Tommy's done a great
[30:19] job of kind of blending the old and the
[30:21] new and I don't think you're going to
[30:23] see I mean, we're preseason number four
[30:26] right now. So, I think, you know, people
[30:28] are going to be pretty excited off after
[30:30] going to the final four last year and
[30:32] all the kids that are back this year and
[30:33] the new guys that are coming in. The
[30:35] guard play this year was phenomenal the
[30:36] other night against San Francisco. So,
[30:38] >> Oh, yeah.
[30:38] >> I think you know, our our athleticism
[30:42] our and our ability is there. Now,
[30:45] whether or not we gel at the right time,
[30:46] we you know, basketball is a long
[30:48] season, so you got to worry about
[30:49] injuries and and that type of thing, but
[30:51] Tommy has done just a phenomenal job
[30:54] ever since he's got here about building
[30:56] that program and I mean, he's kind of
[30:58] been able to blend, you know,
[31:00] international players with American
[31:01] players with, you know, just the right
[31:03] combination of kids to make the right
[31:05] things happen.
[31:06] >> Yeah.
[31:06] >> Okay. And from what I heard
[31:08] last week is that we lost a couple of
[31:10] recruits. Is that
[31:12] >> Well, I mean, you always lose recruits,
[31:14] you know, I mean, you know, you always
[31:16] lose some guys, you always gain some
[31:18] guys, you know, I don't know if I take a
[31:20] lot of stock in that cuz I don't know,
[31:22] you know, one kid affects two or three
[31:24] other kids sometimes and so I mean,
[31:26] Tommy knows what he wants. He usually
[31:28] gets what he wants, so I'm not too
[31:30] concerned about, you know, anything like
[31:32] that, especially nowadays with, you
[31:34] know, the transfer portal. So, you know,
[31:36] before when you were basically relying
[31:38] on high school kids, you know, if you
[31:40] lost one, then it was tough because, you
[31:42] know, but now with the way the transfer
[31:44] portal A lot of times people don't even
[31:45] start recruiting until season's over
[31:47] with and the transfer portal portal
[31:49] opens up and then they start going and
[31:50] getting, you know, fifth-year kids. And
[31:53] and this is the biggest difference and
[31:54] this is what this is what college
[31:55] basketball has to be a little bit leery
[31:57] of now is the fact that, you know, kids
[31:59] are there for five, six years and you're
[32:01] got a 23, 24-year-old now playing
[32:04] against an 18-year-old. So, there's a
[32:06] big difference in strength and size when
[32:08] you're talking about six, seven, eight
[32:10] years at that year at that level at that
[32:12] age because the development is just so
[32:14] much different.
[32:15] >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So, when when's the
[32:17] season starting? When when's
[32:19] >> Well, they've already started. They play
[32:20] Samford
[32:20] >> talking about the the regular season.
[32:22] >> Oh, the regular season won't start until
[32:24] I think our first game is in January. We
[32:26] may have a not
[32:27] >> Well, the conference. That's the
[32:28] conference
[32:28] >> game.
[32:29] >> I mean, the the regular season starts
[32:31] I'm thinking about 2 weeks.
[32:33] >> Yeah. Yeah, we have these exhibition
[32:35] games and then I think we start in
[32:37] about, yeah, probably not. Usually it's
[32:39] at the end of this month.
[32:40] >> usually a tournament that starts the
[32:42] >> No, I mean we we go to some tournaments
[32:44] sometimes like the Maui Classic and
[32:46] things like that.
[32:47] >> thinking about. I know they've gone to
[32:48] Hawaii.
[32:48] >> But yeah, but they aren't they aren't
[32:49] always at the beginning of the season.
[32:50] Sometimes those are usually based around
[32:53] Thanksgiving and Christmas because those
[32:55] tournaments they want to make sure the
[32:56] kids don't miss class. So a lot of those
[32:58] tournaments are based around
[33:00] um the non-class time for kids. So it's
[33:04] not necessarily. There is always a
[33:05] kickoff tournament with one or two
[33:07] teams, but the ones that we go to are
[33:09] usually the Maui Invitational, which I
[33:11] believe we're playing in this year.
[33:13] >> It's usually every four years that we go
[33:14] to it.
[33:15] >> Yeah, you get an exemption tournament.
[33:16] The way it works is you get an exemption
[33:18] tournament every four years and you can
[33:20] go to basically like the Maui Classic.
[33:22] It used to be the Great Alaskan
[33:23] Shootout, the Vegas tournament.
[33:25] >> counts like one game, right?
[33:26] >> game for yeah, yeah.
[33:28] >> you play three or four games.
[33:30] >> they don't know how many you're going to
[33:31] play because it's winners move on and so
[33:33] they don't want to penalize you. So it
[33:34] just counts as one game on your
[33:36] schedule, but you might end up playing
[33:37] four games, you know.
[33:39] So but yeah, those tournaments are
[33:40] usually based around Thanksgiving and
[33:43] Christmas so that there's less classes
[33:46] missed and things like that. So the real
[33:48] tournaments, a lot of those are based
[33:50] around that. Nowadays what you're
[33:51] looking at and you're seeing a lot of,
[33:53] which is completely different than in
[33:55] the past, is tournaments are now
[33:56] providing schools NIL money. So the
[33:59] winning teams now are starting to
[34:01] collect money. So each player on the
[34:03] team now may collect, you know, 25, 50,
[34:07] 100, 200,000 dollars based on the pot of
[34:10] what they're collecting and you never
[34:11] used to see that. So it's different. The
[34:13] Vegas tournament, which is a big one, is
[34:16] run that way and so there's more and
[34:17] more teams trying to get into that to do
[34:20] that. So because obviously coaches are
[34:22] like, "Hey, we'll go play in a
[34:23] tournament where my kid can make, you
[34:25] know, because that's a selling point for
[34:26] a recruit. Hey, you know, you you might
[34:28] be a a bench player and you might not be
[34:30] getting paid a lot of NIL money, but if
[34:32] we go to this tournament, we play in it,
[34:33] we win it, every kid gets a minimum
[34:35] amount of whatever XYZ 50,000, 100,000,
[34:38] whatever it is.
[34:39] So, there's some There's some Coaches
[34:41] now have a lot more things they have to
[34:43] think about, you know, back in the past,
[34:45] you know, they were always worried about
[34:46] their press conferences, they were
[34:47] always worried about, you know, all the
[34:49] off-the-court things, but now they got
[34:50] the off-the-court things with money
[34:52] involved for players. What are they
[34:53] doing to help their players? Cuz they're
[34:55] not doing something to generate money
[34:57] for their players nowadays, you know,
[34:58] they're probably going to end up losing
[34:59] their player. They're going to jump in
[35:01] the transfer portal. There's no loyalty,
[35:02] which I I'm not a big fan of because I
[35:04] I'm more of a fan of loyalty and in
[35:06] college sports and things like that, but
[35:09] I also understand free enterprise, and
[35:11] you can't really penalize a kid, you
[35:13] know, that's has an opportunity to make
[35:15] money. I mean, we all kind of would
[35:17] probably jump at the opportunity to make
[35:18] more money and that type of thing. So, I
[35:20] think there needs to be some kind of
[35:22] balance in there between, you know, some
[35:23] loyalty with a school and the program
[35:26] and the money aspect of
[35:27] >> Right. I agree with you, yeah.
[35:29] >> Is there
[35:30] This may be a crazy question, but
[35:32] on NIL money, is there any type of cap
[35:34] on that?
[35:35] >> No, and that's that that I think is
[35:37] going to become a problem at some point
[35:39] because you're going to end up with the
[35:40] haves and the have-nots. Like, the
[35:41] University of Texas got like an
[35:42] unlimited budget. I mean, I mean, they
[35:44] can go do whatever they want. In our
[35:46] conference, believe it or not, um for
[35:48] football, I did look this up the other
[35:49] day, I think we're paying about 21, 22
[35:52] million dollars for our football NIL
[35:54] money and stuff like that, of which, you
[35:56] know, every school has a certain amount
[35:58] that they get. I don't don't quote me on
[35:59] this, but I believe it's like 12 or
[36:01] 14,000, 16,000, something 16 million or
[36:03] something like that that the school can
[36:04] give out. Then, the boosters can
[36:06] obviously go on or they or the NIL,
[36:10] whoever your NIL representative for your
[36:12] colleges can can monitor and give out
[36:14] more.
[36:15] >> So, that initial money is shared money
[36:16] through the conference, right? It's
[36:18] pretty much
[36:19] >> I'm assuming they get it through
[36:20] probably the TV. I don't the I I'm not
[36:22] sure exactly how it comes in.
[36:23] >> I think it's the TV contracts through
[36:25] the conference, and then the conference
[36:27] distributes that money.
[36:28] >> Well, it goes to the college and then
[36:29] the college kind of distributes it
[36:31] however they want. So, the college, the
[36:33] AD decides, but there's a cap on how
[36:35] much the school can do. There's not a
[36:37] cap on how much the players can do. But,
[36:40] outside money can come in and and
[36:42] basically, you know, offset whatever you
[36:44] want. I mean, like I said, I think we're
[36:46] at 22, 24 million, something like that
[36:48] for football. But, you look at schools
[36:50] like Texas Tech. Now, they have a really
[36:53] I was in West Texas. I was an AD in West
[36:56] Texas. They have a They have a really
[36:58] profound booster in the oil field that
[37:01] gives a lot of money. And so, their
[37:03] their football program, I think, is more
[37:05] like around the $38, $40 million mark.
[37:09] So, there's a big difference when you're
[37:10] talking $40 million in your program from
[37:12] NIL money and 20 22, $24 million in your
[37:16] program for NIL money. I mean,
[37:18] everybody, you know, I don't even know
[37:19] what Texas is, but you think about Texas
[37:22] and and obviously Nike with Oklahoma
[37:25] and, you know, you look at Oklahoma
[37:27] State's made a big run and I'm assuming
[37:28] some of that's Boone Pickens' money
[37:30] there now at at Oklahoma State and I
[37:32] think that's one of the reasons. I mean,
[37:33] they beat Oregon, you know, and they're
[37:35] they're they're a tough opponent, you
[37:36] know. So, I mean, they're going to be
[37:38] they're they're they're going to be
[37:39] really good this year with, you know, we
[37:41] got we're going to Luckily, we don't
[37:42] play them, but
[37:43] you know, they're going to be tough in
[37:44] our conference, too.
[37:46] >> It's got to be tough for some of the
[37:47] smaller schools.
[37:48] >> Oh, very tough.
[37:49] >> It's going to be really tough for the
[37:50] small schools, especially if they're
[37:51] trying to compete with the big schools.
[37:52] They're not going to be able to. They
[37:53] just don't have the budgets resources.
[37:55] Now, they're going to be in the same
[37:56] boat as all the other small schools
[37:58] though. You're still competing with
[37:59] people on your level. So, you know, a
[38:01] MAC school or a WAC school or or, you
[38:03] know, those types of conferences, you're
[38:05] still competing with people in your
[38:06] conference, but you're surely not going
[38:08] to be able to compete with the power,
[38:10] you know, the power conferences.
[38:11] >> Yeah. Yeah.
[38:13] >> Yeah, exactly. I mean,
[38:16] and I'm hoping that there'll be some
[38:17] kind of cap on there, you know, just to
[38:20] level out the playing field a little
[38:21] bit, you
[38:22] >> Well, and I think you need Here's the
[38:24] other thing. I mean, I was a college
[38:25] athletic director. Here's the other
[38:26] thing you got to kind of think about. I
[38:27] mean, you're putting all this money into
[38:29] football, but you know, what are what
[38:30] are the baseball kids think and what do
[38:32] they think what do the girls softball
[38:34] and what does, you know, track and field
[38:36] think and you swimming and diving and
[38:38] all that kind of
[38:38] >> what we call non-revenue sports.
[38:40] >> Olympic sports. Yeah. So, I mean, you
[38:42] know, is it fair for a a basketball guy
[38:44] to walk or or basketball or football guy
[38:47] to have, you know, have a $1 million
[38:48] contract and the the top Olympic swimmer
[38:52] who's representing us in the Olympics is
[38:54] making, you know, 20 grand?
[38:57] >> Right. And exactly.
[38:58] >> or maybe not even that much. They may
[38:59] not I don't even know. They may not even
[39:01] get paid. Some of the sports You can't
[39:02] pay everybody.
[39:03] >> But some of the argument is that, you
[39:05] know, they're again, you know,
[39:07] the football team's bringing in money.
[39:09] The you know, the
[39:10] >> No doubt.
[39:10] >> is bringing in money, you know, so
[39:12] >> There's no doubt about it. I think you
[39:14] have to look at supply and demand in
[39:15] everything you do. I mean, that's always
[39:17] but you also have to think about like
[39:20] Title IX cuz I mean, think about this. I
[39:22] mean, so supply and demand. So, an NBA
[39:25] game, you know, is packed and those guys
[39:27] are making millions of dollars, but the
[39:29] WNBA until just this last year, the cap
[39:32] was like 75,000 or something like that.
[39:35] Now, it's not that now. I mean, even
[39:37] like Sophie Cunningham and some of these
[39:38] players are making 600, 700 million
[39:40] dollars now, but but you know, I mean,
[39:43] can you overspend? I mean, what happens
[39:45] when there's not enough money? I mean,
[39:47] you know, the right now most schools, I
[39:50] don't know of all, but most schools lose
[39:53] money in women's sports. So, you know,
[39:56] if you're you're looking at it a college
[39:58] if you're a college and you're a college
[39:59] athletic director, you can't get rid of
[40:01] women's sports. You need women's sports.
[40:03] You need that. You have to have that.
[40:05] And Title IX has protected that and
[40:07] that's a great thing. But you probably
[40:10] can't pay them the same amount. Like you
[40:13] said, it has to it has to balance itself
[40:15] out. But but from an economic
[40:18] standpoint, I mean,
[40:19] you know, if you're just looking at
[40:21] dollars and cents, you would end up
[40:22] losing a lot of sports. And I know, you
[40:24] know, like wrestling and like some of
[40:26] those, you know, soccer, soccer, beach
[40:28] volleyball, some of those some of those
[40:29] sports would be gone. And I know I think
[40:32] you need those sports and you need that
[40:33] atmosphere and you need those
[40:35] opportunities for kids. But, you know,
[40:37] if you're looking from a dollar and
[40:38] cents standpoint, you'd probably if you
[40:40] looked at a budget-wise, I I I looked I
[40:42] haven't looked in the last year or two,
[40:44] but a couple years ago I looked, I mean,
[40:46] a lot of schools are losing two, three,
[40:47] four million dollars on women's sports.
[40:49] that mean you just need to get rid of
[40:50] them? No, it just means you supplement
[40:52] it with football, you supplement it with
[40:54] basketball, you supplement it with the
[40:56] school budget or fundraising or other
[40:57] things cuz those kids deserve an
[40:59] opportunity just like everybody else.
[41:01] >> Oh, yeah, definitely.
[41:03] Yeah, well, that that's crazy. But, um
[41:05] All right, so we were talking about
[41:07] basketball.
[41:09] >> We are talking about basketball. And
[41:10] I'll tell you, we're going to be really
[41:11] good. Like I said, you know, I I we're
[41:13] fourth right now. We're we're playing
[41:15] preseason number four and and there's no
[41:17] reason why we shouldn't be. I mean, we
[41:18] have a we have a chance to win it all.
[41:20] And and our atmosphere, back to your
[41:23] question in basketball, is slightly
[41:25] different than our atmosphere in
[41:27] football. And that's partly because, but
[41:30] if you look back, there was a guy by the
[41:32] name of Lute Olson, you know, who
[41:33] created that. Because I mean, back
[41:35] before Lute, back when Frank Snowden was
[41:37] here, I I don't think I wasn't I wasn't
[41:40] around, but I I believe, from what I
[41:42] hear, you guys only had sometimes as
[41:44] many as two or three 4,000 people in the
[41:46] stadium. Um I wasn't I wasn't here and I
[41:48] didn't
[41:48] >> It was easy to go buy a ticket, just
[41:50] walk up and buy a ticket for five bucks
[41:51] or whatever.
[41:52] >> And Lute kind of changed all that, you
[41:54] know. And so, and like I said, and and
[41:56] my brother Ryan was on his staff for a
[41:58] number of years and did a great job and
[42:01] still does the radio, but
[42:02] um you know, Lute kind of changed all
[42:04] that when he came here. He created the
[42:06] atmosphere. And I think we're in that
[42:07] stage with football. I think Burnett's
[42:09] doing the same thing in football. I
[42:10] think it's going to take a year or two,
[42:12] but if we start getting where we're
[42:13] competitive and we're winning conference
[42:15] championships, people are going to show
[42:16] up. Tucson's a town of winners, and they
[42:19] will show up. Even like you take women's
[42:21] softball. I mean, Mike Candrea has built
[42:23] women's softball there at the U of A,
[42:25] and they show up. Those people they show
[42:27] up for they had to they redid the
[42:28] stadium. They've redone a lot of things
[42:30] with women's softball right now. Um the
[42:32] facilities are amazing, but and they did
[42:34] and they started doing that when Lou was
[42:35] here. I think if Brennan does the same
[42:37] thing over time and we get to where
[42:39] we're into a you know, we're we're
[42:41] finalists for the you know, big 12
[42:43] championship a couple of years in a row,
[42:44] I think you're going to see
[42:46] the stadium packed. I think you're going
[42:47] to see the atmosphere. I think people
[42:49] will start to make it. But I I think we
[42:51] got to get ourselves on national TV, and
[42:52] we got to figure out the TV thing so
[42:54] everybody can see us all the time. And
[42:57] >> Yeah, 8:00 our time doesn't get us on
[42:59] national TV.
[43:00] >> Yeah, 8:00 our time remember it's 11:00
[43:02] on the East Coast, and so it it hurts in
[43:05] recruiting, too. I mean, it's fine for
[43:06] the West Coast, but when you're starting
[43:07] to recruit a kid out of Indianapolis or
[43:10] out of, you know, New Jersey or even
[43:12] Texas, you know, an hour 2 hours ahead,
[43:15] you know, those kids it's 10:00 at
[43:16] night. Now, they may watch your first
[43:18] half until midnight, but you know, if
[43:19] they're going to church on Sunday, you
[43:21] know, they they're they're not staying
[43:22] up till 2:00 in the morning to watch
[43:24] this.
[43:24] >> Right. Exactly.
[43:25] >> You know,
[43:26] so so a lot of it has to do with the
[43:28] atmosphere, but our basketball
[43:30] atmosphere will is is unmatched. I mean,
[43:33] McKale Center is an unbelievable place
[43:35] to play.
[43:37] >> Have you guys had a chance to look at
[43:38] the basketball schedule yet?
[43:40] >> I have not seen much of it. Just glanced
[43:43] at it.
[43:43] >> yeah. Just glanced at it pretty much,
[43:45] yeah.
[43:45] >> All right. Well, we'll get to the
[43:46] basketball schedule uh next time.
[43:48] >> Okay.
[43:49] >> We'll we'll we'll break down their
[43:50] actual schedule next time. We have coach
[43:51] Olson.
[43:52] >> Yeah, I'll be glad to. One of the things
[43:54] I think that uh
[43:55] we're talking about atmosphere, I mean,
[43:57] Arizona basketball, I mean, our do
[43:59] students do stay in basketball. Stay Our
[44:01] students stay. Now, where we run into a
[44:04] little bit of a of a of I wouldn't even
[44:06] say it's a problem, but maybe
[44:08] economically, which is a little bit
[44:10] different, is the fact that we, you
[44:12] know, we have to make money. University
[44:14] of Arizona needs to Athletics is
[44:16] self-sufficient and does not receive,
[44:18] you know, college funding. So, we have
[44:20] to we have to make money, so we sell our
[44:23] sideline seats for a lot of money. Where
[44:25] if you're going to Duke, and first of
[44:27] all, I've been to Duke, and it's like
[44:29] people don't understand, that's
[44:30] literally a high school gymnasium. It's
[44:32] not that nice. And they got bleacher
[44:34] seating and everything else. And they've
[44:36] got students that basically stand on the
[44:39] sidelines. And the reason they're able
[44:41] to do that though is Duke is so well
[44:43] endowed and they have so much money that
[44:45] they yeah, they don't need to
[44:47] necessarily try to generate every dollar
[44:50] out of out of tickets like we do. And
[44:53] believe it not, Duke's arena I don't
[44:55] even know what it holds. It's less than
[44:56] 10,000 people though.
[44:58] Yeah, it's small. It's really small. And
[45:01] and people if you walked in there and
[45:02] compared their arena to anybody else's
[45:04] arena in the country, you go, how in the
[45:05] world Mike Krzyzewski win all these
[45:08] national championships? But, you know
[45:10] what? It's called Mike Krzyzewski. Why
[45:12] why haven't they like built a new
[45:14] stadium for them? I think it's they just
[45:15] like that tradition and it's old school
[45:18] and they just they've done well and they
[45:19] don't seem to need to want to do that. I
[45:21] don't know. I maybe Shire might might
[45:24] decide he wants to do it, but when
[45:25] Krzyzewski was there, he just like
[45:28] he just likes like the things the way he
[45:29] liked them. But, you know, Luke created
[45:32] an atmosphere at Arizona that's
[45:33] unbelievable. And people, you know, we
[45:35] need to be super thankful and we have
[45:37] that statue for him out in front of the
[45:39] Hall of Champions, but I mean, he's
[45:42] really put us on the map and he did a
[45:44] phenomenal job. And Tommy is
[45:46] was That's an amazing deal. Yeah, Tommy
[45:49] was a great get. And Tommy fits us. He's
[45:51] the right guy for our culture, for our
[45:55] environment, and he loves Tucson. I
[45:56] mean, he had chance last year. I mean,
[45:58] you heard the rumors. I don't I I don't
[46:00] know, you know, how true they are, but
[46:02] you know, I'm I heard North Carolina was
[46:03] recruiting him. I heard all these people
[46:05] were kind of getting him and we finally
[46:07] stepped in and said, "Hey, we we don't
[46:10] want to lose him."
[46:11] >> Right.
[46:11] >> And I think now he reports directly to
[46:13] the president and or the vice president
[46:15] of finances or something like that and
[46:17] you know, so he's got some power now and
[46:19] he's able to do some things. So, you
[46:21] know, I think you're going to see some
[46:22] things happen because obviously, you
[46:24] know, he knows what he wants and he's
[46:26] developed a good program and he and he's
[46:28] continuing to do great things and we're
[46:30] going to you know, like I said, last
[46:31] year was a final four appearance and
[46:32] this year we're ranked preseason in top
[46:34] four. So, he must be doing something and
[46:36] he's he's got he's got the right staff
[46:38] and the right people in place and you
[46:40] know, he's got some die-hard guys. Jack
[46:42] Murphy on his staff has been here and
[46:44] Jack was, you know, I I've known Jack
[46:46] for a long, long time coming out of Las
[46:48] Vegas and and uh you know, he was he was
[46:50] a a manager um for Lou and those guys
[46:54] >> was Yeah, and then he was the
[46:55] head coach at NAU
[46:56] >> Yeah, he was in NAIA. Yeah, he left here
[46:58] when he was on he was with Lou and then
[47:00] he went to the Denver Nuggets for a
[47:02] while and then he went with Josh Pastner
[47:04] to Memphis and then he got the head job
[47:07] um you know, at NAU
[47:09] and then
[47:10] um he actually, you know, got married to
[47:12] Jim Livengood's daughter.
[47:13] >> Oh, really?
[47:14] >> Uh yeah, and they have twins and stuff.
[47:16] So, but yeah, I mean and Tommy's created
[47:19] a culture, a family culture, which is
[47:21] just something that is amazing in
[47:23] college sports nowadays and people love
[47:25] Tommy and he's just a down-to-earth guy
[47:28] and you don't ever see him get, you
[47:29] know, crazy or too animated. Now, he's
[47:32] passionate
[47:33] >> Yeah.
[47:33] >> but he's not he doesn't he's not one of
[47:35] those coaches going to rip off his
[47:36] jacket, throw it up and down. You know,
[47:38] and Tucson wants that.
[47:39] >> on the court.
[47:39] >> No, I don't think I don't think he's
[47:41] going to throw any chairs. Speaking of
[47:43] which, uh I will tell you one story. I I
[47:46] when I was playing at Washington State,
[47:47] we did play Bob Knight and we were back
[47:50] there and and it was a couple years
[47:52] after the chair throwing incident and
[47:54] everything and and uh in there doing our
[47:57] our our pregame uh the day before and
[48:00] everything. We were going walk-throughs
[48:01] and all that and I was laying I happen
[48:03] to be sitting right there like
[48:04] stretching on the floor right next to
[48:06] where that chair was thrown and I was
[48:08] looking on underneath the chairs and I
[48:10] noticed they had run a cable underneath
[48:12] them and they had locked them all
[48:14] together. And so I noticed there was no
[48:17] way that that he was going to be able to
[48:19] throw one again. So um yeah, when I was
[48:21] stretching one day that was one of the
[48:22] things I I'll never forget. I was right
[48:24] over there uh stretching and I saw the
[48:26] cable lock locked them all the chairs
[48:29] together.
[48:29] >> I wonder if all the other arenas had to
[48:31] do it, too.
[48:32] Wherever he was going to go play at, you
[48:34] know, whatever game that
[48:34] >> Well, if you remember if you remember
[48:37] the chair he had, it was like a regular
[48:38] chair and nowadays they have they
[48:41] Yeah, it was a No, it wasn't a fold-up
[48:42] chair. It was just a regular chair. But
[48:45] nowadays they have the nice fold-up
[48:46] chairs and they link on the sides. They
[48:48] hook on the sides. So it would be a
[48:50] little bit harder to do, but I but they
[48:53] ran a cable through there and locked it.
[48:55] So there was no way he was going to be
[48:56] able to do that again.
[48:58] >> Man.
[48:58] >> That's crazy. All right, we need to take
[49:00] our final break. We will be back in a
[49:02] few minutes and we'll get a little bit
[49:03] more into it for our final segment. All
[49:06] right, we'll be right back.
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[51:45] >> All right, we are back here We're
[51:48] Talking Sports with Will and Ron. Check
[51:50] us out every Thursday at 10:00 a.m.
[51:54] We're here with Coach John. We're
[51:55] talking a little bit about uh all kinds
[51:57] of different sports.
[51:58] >> Everything. You name it. We're talking
[52:00] about it. I I tell you it's exciting.
[52:01] Like I said, this time of year is just
[52:04] one of my favorite times of year cuz
[52:05] everything is going on. But, you know
[52:07] what? Let's talk a little bit about one
[52:09] of our own locals that's doing really
[52:11] well in the NFL.
[52:12] >> Right.
[52:14] >> Bijan Robinson, local kid here from
[52:16] >> Yeah.
[52:16] >> uh South Point
[52:17] >> and uh went on and played at the
[52:19] University of Texas. Believe it or not,
[52:21] leading the NFL in rushing right now.
[52:22] >> Yeah, he is doing great. And he's such a
[52:24] great guy, too.
[52:25] >> Yeah, I don't know
[52:26] >> back to the community. I mean, he's he's
[52:28] a really good guy.
[52:29] >> I don't know him personally, but I know
[52:31] he came back here not too long ago and
[52:32] spoke at at South Point
[52:34] >> like 2 weeks ago, I believe.
[52:36] >> or 3 weeks ago. Yeah.
[52:37] >> And uh you know, it's just grew from
[52:39] what everybody told me. Um you know, I'm
[52:41] on the National Football Foundation
[52:43] board and Dell Arnego's on the Arizona
[52:45] board and he was telling us how great he
[52:47] was and everything else like that. But,
[52:49] I mean, you know, you think about a
[52:50] local kid like that that's just just,
[52:52] you know, he's leading the NFL right
[52:53] now. I mean, he's got basically he's got
[52:55] 580 yards. He's got four touchdowns.
[52:57] He's averaging 5.7 yards, which is third
[53:01] in the NFL and he's third in in
[53:03] attempts. He's got 102 carries right
[53:05] now. So,
[53:06] >> I mean, he's on track to uh you know,
[53:09] have an unbelievable year and obviously
[53:11] Atlanta needs him. But, uh you know,
[53:13] just great when you see local kids do
[53:15] well. It's really really exciting. So,
[53:17] >> Exactly.
[53:18] >> And I know you had some experiences from
[53:19] your sons
[53:20] >> Right. Right.
[53:21] >> against him and stuff.
[53:22] >> Yeah, my son was a sophomore when uh he
[53:23] was a senior.
[53:25] So, so they
[53:25] >> bet he looked like he was a man among
[53:27] boys.
[53:27] >> was amazing. He was amazing. Yeah, most
[53:29] games he didn't even need to play in the
[53:31] second half.
[53:32] >> Yeah, you know, when you're that good, I
[53:34] guess when you start blowing people out,
[53:36] you know, it probably hurts your
[53:37] statistics a little bit. But, but
[53:39] obviously I can't complain. He ended up
[53:41] winning up going to Will's school down
[53:43] there. We won't mention the name of it,
[53:44] but that state capital down there in
[53:47] Texas.
[53:47] >> Yeah.
[53:48] >> Yep.
[53:48] >> Hook 'em. Hook 'em, baby.
[53:50] >> Well, I don't know if you want to be
[53:51] saying hook 'em too much right now
[53:53] because the Sooners decided they wanted
[53:55] to put a little,
[53:56] you know, last-minute field goal kick on
[53:58] you guys that
[53:59] rocked the stadium.
[54:00] >> Yeah.
[54:01] >> That happens.
[54:02] >> Yeah. It happens.
[54:03] >> It does happen. But that's what
[54:05] >> I'm also a Cowboys fan, so you know.
[54:07] >> Yeah,
[54:08] but you know, I'm a Cowboys fan a little
[54:10] bit too and and and Dak Prescott's, you
[54:13] know, like fourth or fifth in the
[54:14] passing yards and you think that's
[54:15] great, but the reason he's fourth or
[54:17] fifth is because we're behind all the
[54:19] time and we're trying to catch up. So,
[54:22] you know, there's a reason sometimes
[54:23] statistics are the way they are.
[54:25] >> Yeah. Yeah.
[54:25] >> Yeah.
[54:26] >> Yep.
[54:26] >> Yeah. So, coach, we have about oh, about
[54:29] 5 minutes left here.
[54:30] Um let's talk a little bit about um
[54:34] you know, the passing of one of your
[54:35] good friends.
[54:36] >> Yeah, uh Frank Busch, uh who's a legend.
[54:39] I think there's probably, you know,
[54:41] there's a lot of great coaches that have
[54:43] come through the University of Arizona.
[54:45] Obviously, you look at guys like, you
[54:47] know, Dick Tomey, Lute Olson,
[54:50] um Mike Candrea.
[54:52] Um but one of the legends I think that's
[54:53] probably been under the radar a little
[54:55] bit is Frank Busch, you know. He was at
[54:58] the University of Arizona. He was a
[54:59] swimming and diving coach at the
[55:01] University of Arizona for 22 years from
[55:03] 1989 to 2011.
[55:06] >> Right.
[55:07] >> And
[55:08] um I had the opportunity and I to serve
[55:10] with him on the National Football
[55:12] Foundation board and I just I actually
[55:15] just had a meeting with him not too long
[55:17] ago on a Monday night and then we found
[55:19] out that he passed away that later that
[55:21] week and you know, it's just a
[55:23] devastating thing. I mean, you talk
[55:25] about a guy that was in shape, that
[55:27] cared about people, would do anything
[55:29] for kids and I think that's why he was
[55:31] such a successful coach is, you know, he
[55:33] just really cared about people and I
[55:35] mean, every every person that ever came
[55:37] in contact with him was just like, you
[55:40] know, just in awe of how much he cared
[55:42] about people. He He was so humble and he
[55:44] I mean, I don't think people realize I
[55:46] mean, he coached 34 different Olympic
[55:48] athletes and things like that. But when
[55:50] he was a assistant coach, so he was on
[55:53] the Olympic coaching staff for for 4
[55:55] years. In 2004 in Athens, Greece, 2008
[55:59] in Beijing, China, he was an assistant.
[56:01] But then he was kind of the director and
[56:03] national team director in London,
[56:05] England 2012 and then Rio,
[56:08] Brazil in 2016. And believe it or not,
[56:12] he coached 64 medalists in the US.
[56:16] So that's You think about that. 64
[56:18] people he helped coach win some kind of
[56:21] a medal. Gold,
[56:23] silver,
[56:24] >> Representing our country.
[56:24] >> representing our country. And I mean,
[56:26] that's just an amazing, amazing, amazing
[56:30] when you think about it. But I think
[56:31] what's even more amazing is just the
[56:33] fact that you know, he's just such a
[56:34] humble, genuine guy. I mean, he was on
[56:38] our Football Foundation and he he cared
[56:40] so much about football and the
[56:41] development of those youth kids and
[56:43] everything. And he would took We all get
[56:45] assigned schools and and he ended up
[56:47] with one of the schools up in Globe and
[56:48] he never complained. He just went up
[56:50] there, met with the coaching staff, did
[56:51] seminars, worked with the kids.
[56:53] >> Wow.
[56:54] >> Just did an amazing job. I don't know if
[56:57] I've ever met an individual that has had
[56:59] the passion and the care of sports and
[57:02] helping watching kids learn and develop
[57:04] and giving them opportunities. He's all
[57:06] about trying to give kids opportunities.
[57:08] Every one of our meetings that I sat in
[57:09] with him was always him caring about
[57:12] trying to give kids more opportunities.
[57:15] And sports is I'm very blessed. I had a
[57:17] great sports career. I was fortunate
[57:19] enough but I don't know where I'd be if
[57:20] I didn't have sports. And I was
[57:22] fortunate enough to go the basketball
[57:24] route but I mean, he was on our board
[57:25] for National Football and he shows up to
[57:27] Saturday games with little Peewees. He
[57:30] goes to the high school, you know,
[57:32] Friday night light games. He goes to
[57:34] Arizona Bowl. He He just volunteers and
[57:36] was involved in so many things and I
[57:38] just I I you know, just an amazing man.
[57:41] I mean, he coached people at the U of A.
[57:43] I you know, Amanda Beard. I mean, people
[57:45] know her and then Lacey John or or
[57:47] actually I guess it's Lacey Niemeier
[57:49] now, but
[57:50] um you know, just a lot of really good
[57:53] quality people he's coached and helped
[57:55] over the years, but to coach 64 Olympic
[57:59] medalists, that's just unheard of. And
[58:02] the 20 22 years at the University of
[58:04] Arizona. I mean, you talk about coaches
[58:06] and people and athletes that are all
[58:07] bouncing around, but I mean, you talk
[58:09] about loyalty. That That's real.
[58:11] >> stability for the program.
[58:12] >> Stability and I mean, we just haven't
[58:14] been like that since he's left. I mean,
[58:16] but I mean, you know, it's just amazing
[58:19] what a guy like that does. And that's
[58:21] true leadership in every aspect of the
[58:23] form and and that's true just genuine
[58:25] passion for watching and helping people
[58:27] grow and develop.
[58:28] >> Yeah. You got it, yeah.
[58:30] >> Awesome, man. That is awesome. Yeah.
[58:31] Well, Ron, we have 2 minutes. Let's do a
[58:33] real quick 2-minute drill.
[58:34] >> Okay. Sure.
[58:35] >> All right. Let's do our picks really
[58:37] fast. 2-minute drill.
[58:38] >> Do you have your picks or you didn't?
[58:40] >> Oh, yeah.
[58:42] Send it over to Ron.
[58:45] >> All right. Here we go. So, I got some
[58:48] real quick picks. We're going to go
[58:49] through them.
[58:50] Tonight, we have Seattle at Denver. I am
[58:52] picking that as my upset special. I am
[58:55] going with Denver.
[58:56] >> Ooh. I'm going with Seattle.
[58:57] >> And you're going with Seattle. All
[58:58] right. We have Houston at Jacksonville.
[59:02] That's in London. This is the second
[59:04] game in a row
[59:05] in London for Jacksonville. I am going
[59:07] with Jacksonville.
[59:08] >> I also have Jacksonville in that.
[59:10] >> All right. Chicago at Atlanta.
[59:12] I'm going with Atlanta.
[59:13] >> Yeah, I'm going with the dirty birds.
[59:14] >> All right. Go Bijan.
[59:17] We've got Baltimore at Cleveland. I'm
[59:19] going with Baltimore.
[59:20] >> I also want Baltimore.
[59:21] >> Uh Tennessee at Indian Indianapolis. I'm
[59:24] going with Indianapolis.
[59:25] >> Yeah, I chose Indianapolis as well.
[59:28] >> The Jets at New England Patriots. I have
[59:31] the Patriots.
[59:32] >> Yep, I got the Patriots as well.
[59:33] >> All right. We have the New Orleans
[59:35] Saints at the New York Football Giants.
[59:39] >> Yeah, I got the Giants.
[59:40] >> All right. So do I.
[59:42] Uh Carolina at Philadelphia.
[59:44] >> This tough one. Philadelphia at home.
[59:46] I'll tell you
[59:46] >> Okay, I'm going with Carolina. Sorry
[59:48] Kit, but I'm going with Carolina on this
[59:50] one.
[59:51] Uh we have Pittsburgh at Tampa Bay. I'm
[59:54] going with Tampa Bay.
[59:55] >> I want Tampa Bay.
[59:56] >> you know, maybe they uh found something
[59:59] in that last game, so.
[60:01] Arizona at the Rams.
[60:02] >> I got to go Rams.
[60:04] >> with Rams. I think that's a smart
[60:05] choice.
[60:06] >> Yep.
[60:06] >> The Chargers at Kansas City.
[60:08] >> Going Chiefs.
[60:09] >> Going Chiefs, yep.
[60:11] Buffalo at Las Vegas.
[60:13] >> You know, I'm going with the home team
[60:14] on this one. Just a gut feeling. I'm
[60:16] going with the Raiders.
[60:16] >> Okay, I'm I'm going with Buffalo. I I'm
[60:19] not a huge believer in Buffalo. They
[60:20] haven't They've been kind of uh not as
[60:23] dominant as in in prior years, but I'm
[60:25] going with Duff
[60:26] uh Buffalo on this one.
[60:27] >> Yeah, not Duffalo.
[60:28] >> Not Duffalo, yeah. Yeah. All right, we
[60:30] got Dallas at Green Bay.
[60:32] >> Oh, my heart hurts, but I'm going Green
[60:34] Bay.
[60:34] >> I'm going Green Bay, too.
[60:37] And then Monday Night Football, we have
[60:39] Washington at San Francisco.
[60:43] >> Oh, let's see. I'm going to go with the
[60:45] Uh
[60:46] I got to go 49ers.
[60:47] >> All right. That's I I love when you say
[60:49] that. Going with the 49ers. All right.
[60:53] >> My question is who's winning this out of
[60:55] If we got a tally for the year so far.
[60:57] >> So who Who calculates at the end of the
[60:59] year?
[60:59] >> Oh, you're not telling You're not giving
[61:00] out the secrets until the end.
[61:01] >> Not yet. No, we've uh
[61:02] >> I think we gave it out a couple weeks
[61:04] ago what what we did the prior week, but
[61:06] >> This past week we haven't tallied it up,
[61:08] but but we both did really bad.
[61:11] >> So in other words, we don't want to be
[61:13] using you for our booking lines. Is that
[61:14] what you're telling us?
[61:15] >> All right.
[61:16] >> Anyways, we are out of time, gentlemen.
[61:18] Thank you very much, uh coach. It's
[61:20] always a pleasure having you here,
[61:21] buddy.
[61:21] >> It's always a pleasure to you in here
[61:23] soon again so we can finish talking some
[61:25] uh UofA basketball, okay?
[61:26] >> Love to. Love to talk UofA basketball
[61:28] and like I said, excited about their
[61:30] football game coming up against Iowa
[61:31] State. I hope to get the fans out there
[61:34] in 2 weeks at Casino Del Sol Stadium and
[61:36] let's talk some basketball next time I
[61:38] come.
[61:38] >> Absolutely. All right, we will see you
[61:40] next week next on Thursday 10:00 a.m.
[61:42] where our guest will be coach Sam
[61:44] Gelardi, the Sahuarita High School
[61:47] baseball coach.
[61:48] >> Nice.
[61:48] >> We'll have him in in studio.
[61:50] >> Very good.
[61:50] >> Somebody other than Tucson High? Yes,
[61:52] somebody other than Tucson High. All
[61:53] right, everybody