Up to the Minute (CBS) snippet - 2005-12-29 (year in business)
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[0:03] >> Okay, now for some perspective. Joining
[0:05] us for a look back on the year in
[0:07] business as well as a look ahead into
[0:08] 2006. We welcome Jeff Colvin, senior
[0:11] editor at large from Fortune magazine.
[0:14] Magazine, Jeff, good morning to you.
[0:15] >> Morning, Steve.
[0:16] >> Uh,
[0:17] let's start with something that's been
[0:19] on everybody's minds, I guess,
[0:20] especially in the last half of 2005.
[0:23] What's going on with gas prices at the
[0:25] pump? I mean, we we saw a huge spike
[0:27] after Hurricane Katrina. It's throttled
[0:29] back somewhat now. Home heating oil,
[0:31] natural gas, still very high, still a
[0:33] big problem for the economy.
[0:35] >> It's a big problem for a lot of
[0:36] individuals, for a lot of consumers,
[0:38] just because uh refining capacity is not
[0:41] very plentiful in this country. People
[0:43] don't think about it very much, but an
[0:45] awful lot of our uh gasoline and other
[0:47] oil products are refined outside the
[0:49] United States. Well, uh total global
[0:52] demand really affects how much of that
[0:54] is available for us.
[0:55] >> Now, and that never used to be the case.
[0:56] >> No, it didn't used to be the case, but
[0:58] you know, year after year, we haven't
[0:59] built a refinery in the United States in
[1:01] over 20 years. Now,
[1:04] when uh gas prices went up right after
[1:06] Katrina,
[1:08] uh this was a huge crisis, or so people
[1:10] thought. It's important to remember, gas
[1:12] prices today are lower than they were
[1:14] before Katrina happened. But heating oil
[1:16] prices are high, people are bothered by
[1:18] it, and look, we're going to have to
[1:19] live with this. Global demand for oil is
[1:23] very high, largely because of China, and
[1:25] it's not going to go down.
[1:26] >> The sleeping giant, the Asian giant is
[1:29] is awakening, and there's it's having
[1:31] just a amazing
[1:32] >> amazing effects on demand not only for
[1:34] oil, but for cement, aluminum, wood,
[1:37] steel.
[1:38] >> All the raw materials.
[1:39] >> A part of the reason we can't get enough
[1:41] oil and gasoline here is because the
[1:43] ships are not available. Why are the
[1:44] ships not available? Because you need
[1:46] steel to build them, and the steel isn't
[1:48] available because of the demand in
[1:50] China. So, this is a huge multi-layered
[1:52] effect.
[1:53] >> And we can expect that to continue.
[1:55] >> It's going to continue. It's simply not
[1:56] going to change.
[1:58] >> Let's talk about something that happened
[1:59] just
[2:01] a couple of days ago. We had something
[2:03] that that economists understand a little
[2:04] bit better than I do, but the interest
[2:06] rate curve
[2:07] >> Yes.
[2:08] >> where in effect long-term rates
[2:10] >> Right.
[2:10] >> rates for for the 30-year bonds and so
[2:12] forth actually moved lower
[2:14] >> Right.
[2:14] >> than short-term rates.
[2:15] >> Right.
[2:16] >> Now, what does that mean to Joe Sixpack?
[2:17] >> Well, this is a tough thing to to relate
[2:19] to Joe Sixpack a little bit cuz it's one
[2:21] of those things that normally nobody
[2:23] talks about except the real experts on
[2:25] Wall Street, the so-called yield curve.
[2:27] It's really very simple. All it means is
[2:29] that interest rates for 20- and 30-year
[2:33] bonds are usually kind of high because
[2:35] you're going to wait 20 or 30 years to
[2:37] get your money back. Well, there's a lot
[2:39] of risk in waiting 20 or 30 years.
[2:41] >> You tie it up, you should be compensated
[2:43] for that risk.
[2:44] >> for that risk. Whereas one or two-year
[2:46] bonds lower risk, lower interest rates.
[2:49] Well, what happened was that went
[2:51] backwards. The interest rates on the 20-
[2:54] and 30-year bonds are actually now lower
[2:57] than interest rates on the one- and
[2:58] two-year bonds. What does that mean?
[3:00] Well, it means that the market thinks
[3:02] things are going to be kind of slow in
[3:04] the economy going a few years out. In
[3:06] other words, maybe forecasting a
[3:08] recession.
[3:09] What do you think?
[3:10] >> Are you forecasting a recession here and
[3:12] now?
[3:12] >> No, I'm actually not. I really am not It
[3:14] has to be said actually, something you
[3:16] rarely hear.
[3:17] The economy looks pretty good right now.
[3:19] If you look at all the numbers, economic
[3:21] growth, productivity, unemployment
[3:23] You'd have to say the economy is looking
[3:24] pretty strong. Now, could we have a
[3:27] recession? Well, we could, but I don't
[3:29] see any reason to expect it. So,
[3:31] >> a lot of people have their major
[3:33] investment tied up where they live, in
[3:36] their homes. And there has been talk of
[3:38] a real estate bubble.
[3:40] >> Right.
[3:40] >> Are we at the top of the real estate
[3:42] market in most of the country? And if
[3:44] this is I mean if if you have an
[3:45] investment property, or let's say if
[3:48] you've got a house
[3:48] >> Yeah.
[3:49] >> you have an opportunity to rent
[3:50] somewhere and you don't mind moving this
[3:53] a good time to get out?
[3:54] >> If you live in one of those superheated
[3:56] markets, and I can't mention all of
[3:58] them, but we all know San Diego, Miami,
[4:01] Las Vegas, and a few others are
[4:02] superheated markets. My own view, and
[4:05] this is somewhat controversial in the
[4:07] real estate industry, but my own view is
[4:08] this is clearly a bubble. It is indeed
[4:11] an unsustainably high level of prices.
[4:14] And so, to answer your question
[4:15] directly, if you have a chance to sell,
[4:18] and you can rent instead, you know,
[4:20] Look, depending on the requirements of
[4:22] your job and your family, and so forth,
[4:23] if you could really do this, it's
[4:25] probably not a bad time to do it. Now, I
[4:27] always say,
[4:28] you can't time the market precisely, and
[4:30] you may end up kicking yourself for a
[4:32] year if prices continue to go up for a
[4:34] year, but then I always say, remember
[4:36] what Bernard Baruch said when he was
[4:38] asked how he got so rich. He said, "I
[4:39] always sold too soon."
[4:42] >> Sage advice.
[4:43] >> Yes, it is.
[4:44] >> Let's talk about the other market, the
[4:45] stock market.
[4:45] >> The stock market.
[4:47] >> Uh
[4:47] where do you think it's going to go? If
[4:49] If I am going to sell my primary
[4:50] residence, cash out, put some of it in
[4:52] the market, what's going to look good
[4:54] this year?
[4:54] >> People like you and me should not be
[4:56] putting money in the market unless we
[4:58] can leave it there for a good long time.
[5:00] And by that, I mean 5 years, 10 years,
[5:03] or even more.
[5:04] If you ask me what the market's going to
[5:06] do in the next 6 months, or 12 months,
[5:08] or 2 years, I will tell you, first of
[5:10] all, I don't know, and second of all,
[5:13] nobody else knows, either. But you and
[5:16] I, if we're going to go into the stock
[5:17] market, should go in it for a good long
[5:20] time. And in my view, the evidence is
[5:22] overwhelming,
[5:24] we should not try to pick individual
[5:26] stocks. In other words, we should invest
[5:28] in the market, meaning an index fund
[5:30] that owns essentially every stock. Buy
[5:34] it, and forget about it. Years from now,
[5:37] have a look at it.
[5:38] >> We have time to look quickly at another
[5:40] issue that's going to affect a lot of
[5:41] consumers in the early part of 2006.
[5:44] More and more banks are starting now to
[5:46] increase the minimum payments
[5:49] >> On credit cards.
[5:50] >> Doubling them in some cases.
[5:51] >> Right. And you have to understand
[5:53] they're doing this not because they want
[5:55] to, but under pressure from regulators.
[5:57] The regulators are doing this because
[5:59] they think they are helping consumers.
[6:01] They want to help consumers. Because the
[6:03] truth is if you make the minimum payment
[6:05] on a credit card, it can take you 40
[6:07] years or more to pay it all off. The
[6:08] regulators say that's crazy. You should
[6:11] have to pay off more each month so it
[6:13] doesn't take so long. Problem is those
[6:16] higher payments could hurt.
[6:17] >> So thank you for that help, regulators.
[6:19] Is that it?
[6:20] >> That's it.
[6:20] >> Okay.
[6:21] >> Jeff Colvin, senior editor at large for
[6:23] Fortune magazine. Thank you so much.
[6:24] >> My pleasure.