NBC News - Republican Convention - 1992-07-15
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[0:06] Regularly scheduled programming will not
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[0:10] coverage of the Democratic National
[0:12] Convention.
[0:17] The Democrats in New York tonight as
[0:19] they prepare to nominate Bill Clinton.
[0:51] NBC News Decision 92, the Democratic
[0:54] National Convention. Here is Tom Bro.
[0:59] >> Good evening everyone once again from
[1:01] Madison Square Garden and on the floor
[1:02] of the Democratic National Convention at
[1:04] this hour. A large demonstration in
[1:07] favor of the nominee of this party, Bill
[1:09] Clinton tonight, who has been nominated
[1:12] and second. The Madison Square Garden,
[1:14] of course, is not too far from Broadway.
[1:16] And tonight, we had a one-man show on
[1:18] the best political tradition of the
[1:21] political theater. Mario Cuomo, a son of
[1:23] New York City, the governor of this
[1:25] state, the nominator of Bill Clinton, a
[1:28] man who tonight introduced this party's
[1:31] nominee to this hall and to a national
[1:33] television audience. Here is some of
[1:36] what Governor Cuomo had to say tonight
[1:38] about Bill Clinton of Hope, Arkansas.
[1:45] I will have
[1:47] the great privilege
[1:50] and honor
[1:52] of placing before you
[1:56] the name of the next president of the
[1:59] United States of America, Governor Bill
[2:02] Clinton of Arkansas.
[2:09] We need Bill Clinton because he is our
[2:13] only hope for change from this nation's
[2:16] current disastrous cause.
[2:23] And after 12 years, Americans are
[2:25] disillusioned and they are angry and
[2:27] they are fearful.
[2:30] And Americans showed that with a quick
[2:32] embrace they gave to the sudden
[2:34] appearance on television of a
[2:36] provocative wealthy businessman who said
[2:38] he'd like to be president. Before he
[2:40] told anyone what he intended to do or
[2:44] how he would do it, he used one word and
[2:48] applause broke out all over America.
[2:52] The word was change.
[2:56] Of course the American people want
[2:58] change. Of course, we want something
[3:00] better than George Bush and the politics
[3:02] of decline, decay, and deception. And
[3:05] beginning with this convention, we, you
[3:08] and I, must demonstrate to all the
[3:10] American people that change for the
[3:12] better is at hand, ready, able, eager to
[3:17] serve in the person of, yes, Governor
[3:20] Bill Clinton of Arkansas.
[3:29] And this time,
[3:33] this time we cannot afford to fail to
[3:36] deliver the message not just to
[3:38] Democrats but to the whole nation
[3:40] because the ship of state is headed for
[3:43] the rocks. The crew knows it. The
[3:47] passengers know it. Only the captain of
[3:50] the ship, President Bush, appears not to
[3:53] know it. He seems to think,
[3:56] no, no, no. You see, the president seems
[3:59] to think that the ship will be saved by
[4:03] imperceptible undercurrence directed by
[4:06] the invisible hand of some cyclical
[4:08] economic god that will gradually move
[4:11] the ship so that at the last moment it
[4:13] will miraculously glide past the rocks.
[4:29] Well,
[4:33] prayer prayer is always a good idea, but
[4:38] our prayers must be accompanied by good
[4:41] works. We need a captain who understands
[4:44] that and who will seize the wheel before
[4:46] it's too late. I am here tonight to
[4:49] offer America that new captain with a
[4:52] new course before it is too late. And he
[4:55] is Governor Bill Clinton of Arkansas.
[5:10] President Bush says we cannot afford to
[5:13] do all that needs to be done. He says,
[5:15] "We have the will but not the wallet."
[5:18] And then Americans discover that wealthy
[5:20] bankers educated in the most exquisite
[5:23] forms of conservative Republican banking
[5:26] through their incompetence and thievery
[5:28] and the government's neglect has stolen
[5:31] or squandered everything in sight.
[5:40] I want to march with you. I want to
[5:42] march with you knowing that we are
[5:44] selecting justices to the Supreme Court
[5:47] who are really qualified to be THERE
[6:06] and and justices.
[6:10] justices who understand the basic
[6:12] American right of each individual to
[6:16] make his or her own private moral and
[6:20] religious judgment.
[6:31] I want to look around and feel the
[6:33] warmth, the pride, the profound
[6:35] gratitude of knowing that we are making
[6:38] America shurer, stronger, and sweeter. I
[6:41] want to shout out our thanks because
[6:44] President Bill Clinton has helped us to
[6:46] make the greatest nation in the world
[6:48] better than it's ever been. SO STEP
[6:51] ASIDE, MR. BUSH, you've had your parade.
[7:05] It's time. It's time for change. It's
[7:10] time for someone smart enough to know,
[7:12] strong enough to do, sure enough to
[7:14] lead, the comeback kid, a new voice for
[7:17] a new America. Because I love New York,
[7:20] because I love America. I NOMINATE FOR
[7:22] THE OFFICE of the president of the
[7:24] United States, the man from Hope,
[7:26] Arkansas, Governor Bill Clinton.
[7:31] Mario Cuomo tonight nominating Bill
[7:34] Clinton of Hope Arkansas as the
[7:36] Democratic nominee of this party for
[7:38] president of the United States. Whatever
[7:41] happens in Bill Clinton's life, if I
[7:42] were him, I think I'd have that made
[7:44] into a walletized videotape and take it
[7:46] around and show it to people and say,
[7:48] "Did you see what Mario Cuomo had to say
[7:49] about me?" John Chancellor is here with
[7:51] me now. John, it was a remarkable moment
[7:53] for Bill Clinton. It achieved exactly
[7:56] what he wanted to have happen, I think.
[7:57] >> Well, there a happy bunch out there
[7:59] tonight and some of them are far happier
[8:01] because 10 of those political
[8:03] professionals left Ross Perau's employee
[8:06] today. There's trouble in the Perau
[8:08] campaign. Some of these Democrats
[8:10] thought it was going in the House,
[8:12] right,
[8:12] >> because of a three-way race. They're now
[8:14] thinking that it may be a traditional
[8:16] two-way race and that has raised their
[8:18] mood in this all.
[8:20] >> Down at the podium right now is NBC's
[8:21] Maria Shriber who is there with Governor
[8:23] Mario Cuomo. And Maria, I'm curious if
[8:25] the governor is going to be a very
[8:26] active campaigner around the country and
[8:28] in the Northeast for Bill Clinton come
[8:30] the fall.
[8:30] >> I'll ask him that, Tom. Tom Bro would
[8:32] like to know, Governor Cuomo, if you're
[8:33] going to be an active campaigner on
[8:35] behalf of this ticket in the fall.
[8:37] >> Uh, yes, I will be. I I had spoken to
[8:41] Governor Clinton and Ron Brown about
[8:43] that before I even agreed to speak here.
[8:46] So, uh, yes, we'll be very active.
[8:48] >> You said that you characterize Bill
[8:50] Clinton a lot of different ways, but you
[8:51] said that he comes from the great
[8:52] tradition of the Democratic party, but
[8:54] that he's brought some new things to the
[8:55] Democratic party. What do you think he's
[8:57] added to it? Well, I what I've said is
[8:59] what I said was that he he reverences he
[9:01] cherishes the u the principles for
[9:04] example of uh Robert Kennedy that were
[9:06] uh uh talked about again this evening.
[9:09] But he knows that as the world changes
[9:12] you have to implement those ideas
[9:14] differently. Uh there are new ideas for
[9:17] uh economic uh stimulation, for
[9:19] entrepreneurship, investment tax credit,
[9:22] things that Democrats never talked about
[9:24] before, new partnerships between
[9:27] government and the private sector, some
[9:28] of the things that Paul Son has talked
[9:30] about. These are not departures from
[9:33] democratic principle. They are new
[9:35] applications of old ideals. But many of
[9:39] the people, the so-called liberals in
[9:40] the party feel that this ticket and
[9:42] their ideals, their platform leaves them
[9:44] out in the cold, that the Democratic
[9:46] party is sold out.
[9:48] >> I I think I that is a concern by some.
[9:51] It is not a concern of mine. I think
[9:54] that is a reaction to the superficial
[9:58] appearance to white uh 40year-old males
[10:02] from adjoining states in the south.
[10:05] Okay. Um and and what happens is people
[10:08] say, "Well, that's going to represent
[10:10] something different than the Northeast,
[10:12] something different than black." Well, I
[10:14] think that you decide on the issues.
[10:16] Where are they on rebuilding the cities?
[10:18] Bill Clinton says he wants to rebuild
[10:20] the cities. He will consider doing $35
[10:22] billion. It's not in his plan. Where are
[10:25] they on education? He's there on drug
[10:27] treatment. That's the way to make the
[10:29] judgment. not on their faces or their
[10:32] places, but on where they are on the
[10:36] issues. And on the issues, I think they
[10:38] are intelligently progressive
[10:40] >> and you're 100% comfortable with that.
[10:42] >> Absolutely.
[10:42] >> Governor Mario Cuomo, who as you said,
[10:44] Tom, gave a rousing uh speech for
[10:46] Governor Bill Clinton this evening. Back
[10:48] to you in the booth.
[10:49] >> Thank you very much, Maria Shriber and
[10:50] Bill Clinton. The roll call is now
[10:52] underway. We do know what the addition
[10:54] will be. 2145 votes are needed for
[10:57] nomination here tonight. Bill Clinton
[10:59] has that and many more to secure his
[11:01] nomination. And before this evening is
[11:03] over, we do expect to see him on the
[11:05] streets of New York and in this hall.
[11:07] We'll be back with continuing coverage
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[12:54] We're back here at the Democratic
[12:55] National Convention. We want to show you
[12:56] what happened just a few moments ago
[12:57] here in Midtown, New York. That is Bill
[12:59] Clinton, a man who's come a long way
[13:02] from his small town of Hope, Arkansas.
[13:05] He's getting into his car to come to a
[13:06] rally not too far from Madison Square
[13:08] Garden. He's been described as a boy
[13:10] wonder in Democratic party politics for
[13:12] parts of three decades now.
[13:13] >> He was wonderful.
[13:14] >> A man who after all during the course of
[13:16] this campaign alone survive charges of
[13:19] marital infidelity, of draft dodging and
[13:22] of course of not inhaling when he smoked
[13:24] marijuana when he was a student in
[13:26] England and also of dissembling on a
[13:28] number of other issues. But tonight he
[13:31] is the prince of the Democratic party.
[13:32] He'll come here to acknowledge the
[13:34] nomination by Mario Cuomo tonight and
[13:36] then tomorrow night he'll make his
[13:37] formal acceptance speech. 45-year-old
[13:39] baby boomer who has chosen a 44 year old
[13:42] generational mate, Al Gore, as his
[13:43] running mate. And tonight, uh, they will
[13:47] go over the top and the roll call that
[13:49] is now underway on the floor of this
[13:50] convention. We are now in the state of
[13:52] Connecticut.
[13:54] Connecticut, which has disowned George
[13:57] Bush,
[14:00] needs Bill Clinton, Al Gore, its great
[14:04] US Senator Chris Dodd, its Congresswoman
[14:07] Rosa Delorea, Barbara Canelli to restore
[14:12] our broken Bush economy.
[14:16] Connecticut cast 21 votes for Brown and
[14:20] 45 votes for the next president, Bill
[14:23] Clinton.
[14:28] >> Connecticut.
[14:29] >> Clinton lost Connecticut. As a matter of
[14:31] fact, that was one of those stunning
[14:32] upsets to Jerry Brown just before the
[14:34] New York primary. And his campaign was
[14:37] nearly derailed in the Northeast by
[14:40] Jerry Brown, who then made the fatal
[14:41] error of coming into New York City and
[14:43] saying that he would have Jesse Jackson
[14:44] as his running mate,
[14:46] >> the Jewish vote in the city of New York,
[14:48] especially uh simply couldn't accept
[14:51] that. And that's a very powerful block
[14:52] of votes in New York. Madam Chairwoman,
[14:54] the great state of Delaware, home of
[14:56] Senator Joe Biden, serving his fourth
[14:58] term and still only 49 years of age. A
[15:02] state where it's still proud to be a
[15:04] Democrat again, where we'll have Tom
[15:06] Carper, the next governor after 16 years
[15:09] of Republican rule. And Ruthanne Men,
[15:11] our lieutenant governor, is proud to
[15:13] cast 17 votes FOR THE NEW YOUNG LEADERS
[15:16] who roll up their shirt sleeves, begin
[15:18] to work, move, and get America believing
[15:21] again. BILL CLINTON AND AL GORE. THREE
[15:24] VOTES. THREE VOTES FOR JERRY BROWN AND
[15:27] ONE VOTE FOR Paul Sunis.
[15:32] >> Jerry Brown spoke earlier this evening
[15:33] and he touched all of the things that he
[15:36] talked about during the course of this
[15:37] campaign and then left the hall without
[15:39] talking with any reporters at all. Also
[15:41] tonight, we heard from Paul Sonis and
[15:44] Senator Edward Kennedy spoke as part of
[15:46] a tribute to his late brother, Robert
[15:48] Kennedy.
[15:52] Madam Secretary,
[15:55] I am Sharon Frank Kelly, mayor of the
[15:58] District of Columbia,
[16:04] the home now of Jesse Lewis Jackson
[16:08] and the community that will soon be the
[16:12] next 51ST STATE WHEN WE ELECT THE BOLD
[16:18] NEW TEAM OF BILL CLINTON AND AL GORE.
[16:24] >> And Madame Secretary,
[16:26] as the mayor of A CITY, AS ONE WHO
[16:31] REPRESENTS SO many women, AS ONE WHO
[16:35] REPRESENTS LATINO AMERICANS AND SO MANY
[16:39] AFRICANAMEANS.
[16:41] WE KNOW THE PAIN AND WE KNOW THAT WE
[16:45] CANNOT TAKE FOUR MORE YEARS OF GEORGE
[16:48] BUSH. THEREFORE, WE UNEQUIVOCALLY,
[16:53] ABSOLUTELY CAST ALL 31 OF OUR VOTES FOR
[16:58] THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES,
[17:00] BILL CLINTON.
[17:08] Thank you, Mayor Kelly.
[17:10] District of Columbia.
[17:11] >> That's Kathy Vic who is the secretary of
[17:13] the Democratic National Committee. She
[17:14] replaces the late beloved Dorothy Bush
[17:16] who presided at so many of these
[17:18] conventions who died in 1996
[17:20] votes.
[17:22] >> Are you ready? Florida,
[17:24] >> a key state in the fall.
[17:26] >> Florida, the first state to lead the
[17:28] bandwagon for Bill Clinton in the
[17:30] primary and the state
[17:34] and the state that will lead the
[17:35] bandwagon in the presidential race.
[17:38] Congressman Danny Facel and I are proud
[17:40] to present the co-chairman of our
[17:42] delegation,
[17:44] senior senator for the United States,
[17:46] Senator Bob Graham.
[17:52] Madame Chairwoman,
[17:54] Florida, the sunshine state,
[17:58] the state which launched the
[18:00] presidential campaign of Governor Bill
[18:02] Clinton, the next president of the
[18:04] United States, is proud
[18:07] to offer for Governor Brown three votes,
[18:11] for go for Senator Paul Sanas 15 votes,
[18:15] and for the next president of the United
[18:18] States, Governor Bill Clinton
[18:21] 141 votes.
[18:28] >> Thank you, Senator Graham.
[18:31] Florida has cast three votes for
[18:34] Governor Brown,
[18:36] 141 votes for Governor Clinton, and 15
[18:40] votes for Senator Songis.
[18:43] Georgia.
[18:45] Georgia
[18:47] 96 votes and they look very ready.
[18:50] >> Madam Secretary, the Georgia delegation
[18:53] is unanimous.
[18:55] We cast all of our 96 votes for the next
[18:59] president of the United States, Governor
[19:01] Bill Clinton.
[19:07] >> Georgia
[19:08] has 96 votes for Governor Bill Clinton.
[19:13] Hawaii.
[19:15] >> Hawaii 28 votes.
[19:19] >> Madam Secretary
[19:21] John, the governor of the law state of
[19:23] Hawaii, which adds,
[19:25] >> well, the roll call continues. We're
[19:26] watching the political theater. It's not
[19:28] much in terms of arithmetic because we
[19:30] know what the final sum will be based on
[19:33] all the earlier estimates. But people
[19:35] like to see their states on television.
[19:36] In fact, the only complaint I really
[19:38] have heard from a delegate both from the
[19:39] state of Idaho and from the state of
[19:41] Nevada. are so tucked so far away here.
[19:43] They're not appearing on television.
[19:45] They've come all this way and the folks
[19:46] back home can't see them and they're
[19:47] complaining about that.
[19:48] >> Show you how television has changed
[19:50] these things.
[19:50] >> That's right. It has.
[19:51] >> But when do you expect Bill Clinton to
[19:53] arrive?
[19:54] >> Well, I think before too long. The uh
[19:56] the apparently the plan is that he'll go
[19:58] to Macy's, which is not too far from
[19:59] here at Herald Square. They have a
[20:00] little outdoor rally. It's been raining
[20:02] in New York City tonight. Then he'll
[20:04] make his way into the hall. This is a
[20:05] break with tradition that was started
[20:07] about four years ago. and he'll probably
[20:08] go to the Arkansas delegation
[20:11] where his mother, Virginia Kelly, will
[20:13] appear. There's Bill and Hillary Clinton
[20:15] and their daughter, Chelsea.
[20:18] His mother cast the vote for the
[20:20] Arkansas delegation tonight for her son.
[20:23] Very popular figure, very strong mother,
[20:26] a very strong figure in his life.
[20:29] His father died before he was born, 3
[20:32] months before he was born. and his
[20:34] friends say that that had left an
[20:37] indelible imprint on him that he has
[20:39] gone in fact on a personal pilgrimage to
[20:41] the site where his father's fatal car
[20:44] crash occurred and he was raised then by
[20:47] a succession of stepfathers
[20:49] and with a lot of strong women nearby.
[20:51] Yes,
[20:52] >> we got to go all the way
[20:59] >> Macy's is a
[21:01] way
[21:02] >> kind of an interesting symbol. It's one
[21:04] of the department stores that uh has had
[21:06] to file for Chapter 11. Uh a lot of
[21:08] people think that it was the
[21:09] overreaching of the 1980s that brought
[21:11] that on. It's part of a large department
[21:13] store chain. It is the heart of the
[21:16] retail industry of New York or at least
[21:18] one section of it. And it it was part of
[21:21] a beverage buyout by its executives and
[21:24] then got into debt trouble and it's now
[21:26] in chapter 11. You know, Tom, if he
[21:29] comes into the hall tonight, I believe
[21:30] that tradition was broken, that the
[21:32] candidate not appear. You said four
[21:34] years ago. I think that's right. Um, in
[21:37] 1932, Franklin Roosevelt became the
[21:39] first president ever to accept the
[21:41] nomination at the convention. He flew in
[21:45] an airplane from New York to Chicago.
[21:47] And a lot of people said how pushy that
[21:49] was, you know. And but now, of course,
[21:51] it's a great tradition in both parties
[21:54] to accept the nomination in the hall.
[21:56] But for up until 1932, nobody had ever
[21:59] come to the hall. They all stayed at
[22:00] home and waited for the party to call on
[22:02] them. And in this wonderful new
[22:04] biography of Harry Truman, we have
[22:06] learned that in 1944, FDR went off to
[22:08] California, left it to his adviserss,
[22:10] and they picked Harry Truman as his vice
[22:12] presidential candidate. Well, enough of
[22:14] history. We will get back to this moment
[22:16] in just a few moments here on NBC. Back
[22:18] after this at the Democratic National
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[25:06] We're back in Madison Square Garden.
[25:08] That's the chairman of the Iowa
[25:09] delegation, John Rooric, who last night
[25:13] stunned this convention hall with a mock
[25:14] New York Times that had Oprah Winfrey
[25:16] running with Ross Perau. It was so
[25:18] cleverly done that a lot of people
[25:19] believe that it was true. This is the uh
[25:23] we're at Iowa now in the roll call of
[25:25] the states. We want to show you what the
[25:26] total shows. Uh Bill Clinton 930 votes.
[25:30] He's almost halfway to the 2145 that he
[25:32] needs for a nomination. He will reach
[25:35] that without uh any problems here
[25:38] tonight. Of course, this has all been
[25:39] carefully worked out in advance. As
[25:41] Clinton left his headquarters tonight,
[25:42] he told NBC's Bob Kerr regarding the
[25:45] Cuomo speech, "It was magnificent. It
[25:47] was wonderful. He is a great act to
[25:49] follow." And it was all of that indeed.
[25:52] The other big political story of the
[25:54] evening of course is what's happened in
[25:55] the Ross Perau campaign in Texas where
[25:57] Ed Rollins who came from the Republican
[26:00] party key figure in the Ronald Reagan
[26:02] election victories who went to the Ross
[26:04] Perau campaign tonight resigned and took
[26:06] with him Joe Kenzeri who is highly
[26:08] regarded as an advanced man planning the
[26:11] trips around the country. NBC's Tim
[26:13] Russard is on the floor of this
[26:14] convention and of course he's been
[26:16] making some calls and talking to folks
[26:18] about just what happened in Texas. Tim,
[26:20] what's the story?
[26:20] >> Tom, I just spoke to a member of the
[26:22] Perau camp down in Dallas who said that
[26:25] Ross Perau has decided to go this
[26:27] campaign alone. He's going to continue
[26:28] to run for president, but he wants to do
[26:30] it his way. Ed Rollins said, "If you
[26:32] want to run a world class campaign, I'm
[26:33] willing to do it, but you have to follow
[26:35] certain rules of the game." Ros said,
[26:38] "No, I prefer to do it just my own
[26:40] oldfashioned way." And Ed Rollins packed
[26:42] it in.
[26:43] >> What about Hamilton Jordan then?
[26:44] >> Hamilton Jordan's going to stay on as a
[26:46] strategist. as it was described to me as
[26:47] an ad hoc strategist. He'll give his
[26:50] best advice. Whether Ross Perau will
[26:51] take it, no one really knows. No one
[26:53] really thinks so on a regular basis.
[26:56] >> What happens uh to Ed Rollins now who
[26:58] has had his differences obviously with
[27:00] the Bush White House? They have argued
[27:03] sharply over the years about political
[27:05] strategy within the White House. Does Ed
[27:06] Rollins have a party to go back to at
[27:08] this point?
[27:08] >> At this point, no. I spoke to a White
[27:10] House adviser who told me that a good
[27:13] way to for Ed to start is to write an
[27:14] op-ed piece saying my six days with Ross
[27:17] Bro, why he shouldn't be president by Ed
[27:19] Rollins. Then they might give him a
[27:21] second look. I might say, Tom, on the
[27:22] floor here, I spoke to several Clinton
[27:24] people. They they want Ross Bro to stay
[27:26] in this race a little while. They think
[27:27] he's been a very effective surrogate for
[27:30] the Clinton campaign against George
[27:31] Bush, and they don't want to see him
[27:33] diminish in this early stage of the
[27:35] campaign. All right, thanks very much
[27:37] Tim Russard who is the Washington bureau
[27:38] chief for NBC News and moderator of Meet
[27:40] the Press. And now our chief
[27:41] congressional correspondent and a
[27:44] political reporter of inddehaticable
[27:47] proportions. Here is NBC's Andrea
[27:49] Mitchell with a coatless Bill Bradley.
[27:52] Andrea, well, he's he's used to playing
[27:54] without a coat in the garden. Senator
[27:56] Bradley, the reaction to Mario Cuomo's
[27:58] speech tonight, the liberal wing of the
[28:00] party hearing their most eloquent
[28:02] speaker with with all difference to you.
[28:04] I think you concede that yourself. Does
[28:06] the Liberal wing feel left out at all
[28:08] with Bill Clinton and Al Gore being
[28:10] nominated?
[28:10] >> Not at all. I think that this is a
[28:12] unified party. I think Governor Cuomo's
[28:14] speech was a very strong nominating
[28:17] speech. I believe that we leave uh this
[28:20] week from New York as unified with a
[28:23] real sense of purpose and a sense of
[28:25] urgency about bringing a new generation
[28:26] of leadership to America and changing
[28:28] direction. And my colleague Tim Russard
[28:31] just reported that some Clinton people
[28:33] and some of those whom I've spoken to
[28:34] here on the floor tonight are a little
[28:35] concerned that if Ross Perau were to
[28:37] fade too quickly, this threeman race
[28:40] could be a two-man race and it would be
[28:42] even harder for Bill Clinton to beat
[28:43] George Bush. What's your thought?
[28:45] >> I think Bill Clinton is going to be the
[28:46] next president of the United States
[28:48] because enough Americans over the last
[28:51] four years have had an increasingly
[28:53] difficult time getting ahead
[28:55] economically.
[28:55] >> And so the mathematics doesn't matter. I
[28:58] think that uh by the time we get to
[29:00] October, Bill Fenny will have a good
[29:02] jump and a strong lead whoever he's
[29:04] running against. That's my personal
[29:06] opinion. I also though believe that it's
[29:08] quite possible Ross Perau I don't the
[29:11] Rollins resignation means nothing in my
[29:13] view because I don't think people vote
[29:14] for campaign managers. But I don't think
[29:17] that Ross Perau has psychologically
[29:19] passed the threshold as a real candidate
[29:23] for president. And I do think there's
[29:25] some doubt as to whether we will cross
[29:26] that threshold, but I don't think that
[29:28] that is uh going to be the determinative
[29:30] factor. I think the Bush record is the
[29:33] determinative factor on the economy and
[29:35] it's a disaster.
[29:36] >> Thank you very much, Senator Bill
[29:38] Bradley back here in the garden and back
[29:40] to you Tom in the booth.
[29:41] >> Thank you very much. Bill Bradley had a
[29:43] lot of his pals here last night. Dave de
[29:44] Busher, Red Holtzman, who was his coach
[29:46] for the Knicks and other friends, Robert
[29:48] Redford, who was an environmental
[29:49] activist, was here for the Bill Bradley
[29:51] speech to this hall last night. By the
[29:53] way, they didn't really need Mario Cuomo
[29:54] here tonight because the Clinton
[29:56] campaign is so thoroughly organized. It
[29:58] has handed out little talking point
[30:01] cards to all the delegates. So, they
[30:03] don't need to be inspired. They can just
[30:04] reach into their breast pocket and take
[30:06] a look at the Bush record, the 1992
[30:08] campaign platform, and arguments behalf
[30:10] of This is what happens in American
[30:12] politics. They're always worried that
[30:14] something may go ary and this will bail
[30:16] them out. To what degree I could not
[30:18] say, we're looking now at the state of
[30:19] Maryland in this roll call. All of the
[30:22] great governor Don Schaefer Park and our
[30:25] follow
[30:29] TWO
[30:32] 83 votes for Governor Clinton.
[30:39] >> Thank you, Governor.
[30:41] Maryland has cast 83 votes for Governor
[30:44] Clinton and two votes for Senator Song.
[30:49] Maine 31 votes.
[30:55] I'm sorry. We apparently could not hear
[30:57] the tallied clerks could not hear Maine
[30:59] properly.
[31:01] Would you repeat your vote to me? Maine.
[31:07] >> Maine delegation headed by the Senate
[31:09] majority leader George Mitchell.
[31:11] >> On the state of Maine's microphone,
[31:12] please.
[31:14] >> But that is not George Mitchell.
[31:17] >> Right.
[31:17] >> Okay. Now he remembers
[31:20] >> what we said was the great state of
[31:22] Maine, home of the United States SENATE
[31:24] MAJORITY LEADER GEORGE MITCHELL. Votes
[31:29] four votes for Sonus,
[31:31] 13 votes for Brown,
[31:35] 14 votes for Bill Clinton.
[31:40] >> We will correct that. Thank you very
[31:42] much. That's 13 for Governor Brown, 14
[31:46] for Governor Clinton, and four for
[31:48] Senator Sus. Thank you. May
[31:52] Massachusetts
[31:54] 119 votes. This is
[31:57] >> Paul Sonis's sister.
[32:02] >> Madame Madame Chairman,
[32:06] I am Dalia Songis Slesinger.
[32:14] By the way, Sonus and Lucakus both left
[32:17] the hall tonight before Mario Cuomo
[32:19] spoke. Songus.
[32:24] And as a member of the Songis family
[32:29] and as a member of the Democratic
[32:32] family,
[32:33] I am pleased to announce with great
[32:37] pride in my brother and the campaign
[32:40] that he waged
[32:43] and with respect for his very specific
[32:47] wish that we leave New York united.
[32:53] Massachusetts cast,
[32:57] six votes
[32:59] for Jerry Brown,
[33:04] one vote for Paul Songis,
[33:08] and
[33:10] 109
[33:12] votes for the next president of the
[33:15] United States, Bill Clinton. Thank you,
[33:20] Madam Speaker.
[33:26] about a thousand.
[33:30] Uh we're back. That's Bill Clinton with
[33:31] Chelsea and Hillary. And we're told that
[33:34] Governor Clinton and Chelsea were just
[33:35] dancing. So apparently she's repaired
[33:37] her sprained knee. We hope that it's
[33:39] okay. She visited the Statue of Liberty,
[33:42] which is one of the requisite stops if
[33:44] you're a tourist in New York for the
[33:45] first time. and sprained her knee when
[33:47] she we're told uh climbed the stairs to
[33:50] the top of the Statue of Liberty,
[33:52] something I did when I was about 16
[33:54] years old and found that it wasn't
[33:56] necessary to do that again. At any rate,
[33:58] they're in a party not too far from
[33:59] here. And as soon as he goes over the
[34:01] top, we expect them to leave there and
[34:02] and to come here. John Chancellor, who
[34:05] is the man with the green eye shade for
[34:06] NBC News, has been over there doing
[34:08] doing his sums with his Zakas and
[34:10] everything's going
[34:11] >> well. I've got him about a thousand away
[34:13] and they're and they're doing about 10
[34:15] states in every about 12 minutes or so.
[34:18] So that it's not going to take that much
[34:20] longer to bring him over the top because
[34:22] we've got some big states down the line
[34:24] that really belong to Bill Clinton as
[34:27] does this of course this whole
[34:28] convention.
[34:29] >> One of the risks of course is that as
[34:31] these party chairman want to get into
[34:33] the limelight, we're now in Michigan. if
[34:35] they want to get into the limelight and
[34:36] they want to say something about their
[34:37] state and about their elected party
[34:38] officials. Of course, the evening drags
[34:40] on, they're very conscious uh back at
[34:43] the podium of the national television
[34:45] audience. They'd like to get their man,
[34:46] Bill Clinton, into this hall for a
[34:48] rousing reception before it gets too
[34:50] late. But then you have to play with the
[34:51] sensibilities of the people who are
[34:54] running the delegations.
[34:55] >> Well, you'd like it, the party would
[34:56] like it to be 57 because we have the
[34:58] Virgin Islands, Guam, Democrats abroad,
[35:01] and all that. about 57 one minute
[35:04] commercials, but sometimes they tend to
[35:06] run on a little bit and get a little lo.
[35:08] It's a wonderful quadrrenial American
[35:10] folk song that goes all the way across
[35:13] the country and I think people love to
[35:14] listen to it.
[35:15] >> Well, we have we'll be back with more of
[35:17] that and much more here from Madison
[35:19] Square Garden right after this.
[35:32] Boy, this couch weighs a ton. Where does
[35:34] it go, Miss Lansbury?
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[36:02] >> State finals coming up. A lot of
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[36:27] you're lucky.
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[37:03] Oh, hi you guys. Jay Leno here again
[37:05] tonight with a special live edition of
[37:06] the Tonight Show. We're writing jokes
[37:08] right now about the convention. And
[37:10] isn't the convention exciting? Gee, I
[37:11] wonder who's going to get the
[37:12] nomination. Huh? Duh. Gee, it's so
[37:15] close. I wonder who will win. Anyway,
[37:16] find out tonight. We'll have jokes about
[37:17] it. We'll have guests. We'll have Tom
[37:19] Brokco. Paula Poundstone live tonight on
[37:21] the Tonight Show.
[38:09] We're back now and that's the the number
[38:11] that we have at this point. We're in the
[38:12] state of Mississippi and the roll call
[38:14] of the states plus uh the other
[38:16] districts and the uh delegations from
[38:19] abroad as well. Bill Clinton is now less
[38:20] than 700 votes from where he needs to
[38:22] get to 2145 for nomination. He just
[38:25] picked up the state of Mississippi as
[38:26] well. So he's moved up to over 1500
[38:29] delegate votes at this time. Uh he is
[38:32] standing by near uh near Madison Square
[38:35] Garden at a party in the basement at
[38:36] Macy's where he is there with his wife
[38:39] and daughter. This must be a there. They
[38:42] all are now watching television and
[38:44] signing autographs and preparing to come
[38:46] across here as soon as they go over the
[38:47] top. or at least we presume that's the
[38:50] plan. A much different time for Bill
[38:52] Clinton in the state of New York during
[38:53] this week, which has gone so well for
[38:55] him. A couple of little brush fires
[38:57] around the edges, but nothing nothing
[39:00] like the New York primary when he was
[39:02] the victim of tabloid attacks. You can
[39:04] only describe it as that. They went
[39:05] after his personal character day in and
[39:07] day out. Local television resurrecting
[39:10] the old Jennifer Flowers tapes and talk
[39:12] radio talking about Bill Clinton.
[39:14] Battered and bruised, but he emerged
[39:16] here the winner. and went on to win the
[39:19] nomination. And tonight, Mario Cuomo
[39:21] paid tribute to the fact that in this
[39:23] era of thin skinned politicians, and if
[39:25] anyone should know about thinkinned
[39:26] politicians, it's Mario Cuomo. He said
[39:29] that Bill Clinton have the ability to
[39:31] stand in there.
[39:32] >> After that primary, some of the Clinton
[39:34] people, New York primary, some of the
[39:36] Clinton people said that in New York
[39:37] City, courtesy is regarded as weakness.
[39:40] >> That's right.
[39:44] >> Let's go to Lisa Myers now. Lisa.
[39:46] >> Hi, Tom. I'm in the Florida delegation
[39:48] with one of the first members of
[39:50] Congress to endorse Governor Clinton,
[39:52] Senator Bob Graham of Florida.
[39:54] >> Thank you, Lisa.
[39:55] >> Senator, early on, even after Governor
[39:57] Clinton won the nomination, many members
[39:59] of Congress still kept their their
[40:01] distance, they felt that the character
[40:04] issue had crippled Bill Clinton. That
[40:06] seems to have changed in the last month.
[40:08] What is different now?
[40:10] >> I never thought there was a character
[40:12] issue. A person who has grown up under
[40:15] the kind of circumstances that Bill
[40:17] Clinton did, has achieved what he has
[40:19] done, has to have good character. I've
[40:22] had the privilege of knowing him since
[40:23] 1978. I think he is a fine man. Hillary
[40:28] is a wonderful human being. I think
[40:30] there will be a great team in the White
[40:32] House.
[40:32] >> Nevertheless, certain members of
[40:34] Congress did are were rather late coming
[40:36] to the party. What happened in the la in
[40:39] the last month that made many members of
[40:40] Congress much more comfortable with this
[40:42] nominee?
[40:43] >> Uh they've gotten to know Bill Clinton.
[40:46] Uh early on there was some reticence
[40:47] because there were other members of the
[40:49] Congress particularly the Senate who
[40:51] were running for the presidency and they
[40:52] did not want to come out apparent
[40:55] opposition to one of their colleagues.
[40:57] But I think the more people know about
[41:00] Bill Clinton, the more they will be
[41:02] comfortable with him and be enthusiastic
[41:04] in their support. Thank Thank you,
[41:07] Senator. Uh, Senator Graham says he
[41:09] never doubted Governor Clinton for one
[41:11] moment. And now to my colleague, John
[41:12] Cochran. John,
[41:14] >> thank you very much. I'm here with the
[41:15] former speaker of the House of
[41:16] Representatives, Chip O'Neal from
[41:18] Massachusetts.
[41:19] Mr. Speaker, let me ask you, a lot of
[41:21] talk has been that the the Liberals have
[41:23] really driven the Democratic party down
[41:25] to defeat over the years. Are you
[41:26] getting a little tired of that they talk
[41:28] about and praise this moderate governor
[41:30] from Arkansas?
[41:31] >> Well, that's absolutely nonsense. You
[41:33] know, I lived in an era and we get into
[41:36] politics in an era when 50% of America
[41:41] uh was in poverty. 25% unemployed.
[41:45] It took us years to change everything
[41:47] along the line.
[41:50] We need a change in government. Now I
[41:52] look back when Roosevelt came over and I
[41:56] think of the Tugwells and I think of the
[41:58] uh the Tommy the and I think of Tom
[42:01] Elliot and I think of Galbra and I think
[42:04] of young brilliant young minds that came
[42:07] into a government and changed and that's
[42:09] what we need now. This is the youngest
[42:12] ticket in history and I hope they bring
[42:14] with them the youngest and the most
[42:16] beautiful young brains in America to get
[42:19] us rolling again. Okay. But it's still a
[42:21] southern ticket. Now, a lot of people
[42:22] talk about
[42:23] >> Don't tell me it isn't a s a southern
[42:24] ticket. And I know young Gore well. I
[42:27] was a speaker. He was always faithful,
[42:29] always loyal. He was my uh on on
[42:33] missiles. Nobody in America knew more
[42:34] about him. Nobody knew more about
[42:36] defense. He was a he was a guide to me,
[42:38] an environment. He never bo voted with
[42:41] the uh with the southern with the
[42:43] southern good what do we call them? The
[42:45] uh bull rushers or whatever. I can't
[42:48] even even think of their name now. But
[42:50] he was a moderate progressive and he's a
[42:52] good man on the ticket. I knew his
[42:54] father and mother, beautiful people. His
[42:57] wife Tupper is one of the most popular
[42:58] women and and my Millie who's a great
[43:01] judge of people tells me no finer family
[43:04] than the gods. Good man.
[43:05] >> You're still pretty popular yourself.
[43:07] It's glad to see you in good health. You
[43:08] look terrific. Thank you for joining us
[43:10] speaker. All right. Now back to Tom in
[43:11] the booth.
[43:12] >> Thank you John Khorn. John Chancellor
[43:14] was we believe that he was talking about
[43:15] the gypsy moths. Those were the
[43:17] southerners who went over to the Reagan
[43:18] way of doing things in the last
[43:19] >> Well, they were the conservative
[43:20] southern Democrats that made it possible
[43:22] for Ronald Reagan to do a lot of things
[43:23] that Tip O'Neal absolutely hates.
[43:26] >> Right. Well, Tip O'Neal has had a a
[43:28] small bout with cancer, but he's
[43:29] apparently repaired himself. He likes to
[43:31] play golf and he's got the best attitude
[43:33] about golf. He says, "Hit till you're
[43:34] happy. Just hit till you're happy." So,
[43:36] he continues to tee them up both in
[43:38] politics and on the golf course. We'll
[43:39] be back with more right after this.
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[45:20] >> I think we should throw a party.
[45:22] >> I know what you'd serve.
[45:29] >> Bill Clinton, a man from Hope, Arkansas,
[45:31] has wanted most of his adult life to be
[45:32] president of the United States. Having
[45:34] served five terms as governor of
[45:35] Arkansas, he is now within easy reach of
[45:39] the nomination of his party. 2145 votes
[45:42] needed. We're in New Jersey where he's
[45:44] going to get a big chunk of votes and
[45:46] then we'll move on to the big states of
[45:48] New York and Ohio and Pennsylvania and
[45:51] very shortly he will be over the magic
[45:53] number of 2145 and he will be the
[45:56] standard bearer for his party at the age
[45:58] of 45. We made reference earlier to the
[46:01] fact that he's been described as the boy
[46:02] wonder of Democratic party politics in
[46:04] three decades. And that's true. The
[46:06] 1970s, the 1980s, and the 1990s. That's
[46:09] the description that came from his
[46:11] fellow southerner Sam Nun. And the two
[46:14] of them were among the founding fathers
[46:16] of something called the Democratic
[46:18] leadership council in which they believe
[46:20] the party needed to move smartly to the
[46:22] center so that it could recapture
[46:25] especially the white male southern vote
[46:28] also the suburban vote around the
[46:29] country and they have done managed to do
[46:31] that with both this platform this
[46:34] convention and the campaign that Bill
[46:36] Clinton ran beginning way last year.
[46:39] People forget that he was the front
[46:41] runner at the outset. He slipped back,
[46:43] but he emerged to be the nominee
[46:44] tonight. John Chancellor,
[46:45] >> of a party that is going through a kind
[46:47] of transformation, Mario Cuomo, no mean
[46:50] man with words, as we learned here this
[46:52] evening, uh described the Clinton Gore
[46:55] ticket as intelligently progressive.
[46:58] That's not exactly going out to the
[47:00] barricades and and uh that's not rebel
[47:04] talk, but intelligently progressive, I
[47:06] think, is a pretty good way of
[47:07] describing these two candidates. They
[47:09] are both clearly of the middle of the
[47:11] road and both were founding members of
[47:13] the Democratic leadership council
[47:15] >> and they come from side by side states
[47:17] and despite what Tip O'Neal said the
[47:18] fact is that Al Gore is a southerner but
[47:21] those regional lines now I do think are
[47:24] blurred. Al Gore has demonstrated that
[47:26] he does have national interest. Um Tom,
[47:34] just a few years ago,
[47:38] >> just a few years ago, you would hear
[47:41] greatly different accents from the South
[47:43] and from uh New England and from other
[47:46] places. And I think television has
[47:48] homogenized American accents to a great
[47:50] extent. And the Gore Clinton ticket
[47:53] speaks a kind of mild southern accent,
[47:56] but not very much. Well, Al Gore, after
[47:58] all, was raised essentially in
[47:59] Washington DC. His father was a member
[48:01] of the United States Senate. Then he
[48:02] went off to after private school
[48:05] education in Washington. He went to
[48:06] Harvard for his education, then to the
[48:08] Army. Bill Clinton left Arkansas to go
[48:10] to Georgetown, then England, then New
[48:13] Haven for Yale Law School. And we all
[48:16] move around a lot more. Uh we are not so
[48:19] rooted in our geographical place
[48:22] anymore. People have now many states
[48:24] that they can call home. North Carolina
[48:27] is where we are.
[48:30] >> Are you ready? North Carolina needs
[48:32] >> 158 more votes Sanford who's the senator
[48:35] from that state.
[48:35] >> One vote for the distinguished former
[48:38] governor of California, Jerry Brown.
[48:42] Three delegates are absent.
[48:46] And North Carolina is proud.
[48:49] North Carolina, a state dedicated to a
[48:52] better future for its people through
[48:55] technology and science and universal
[48:58] education, is proud to cast 95 votes for
[49:03] the next president of the United States,
[49:06] Governor Bill Clinton.
[49:09] >> North Carolina will be one of the real
[49:11] battleground states in the South. It is
[49:14] one of those states in which there's a
[49:16] strong rural southern tradition, but
[49:18] it's also the home, for example, of the
[49:20] research triangle of Raleigh, Durham,
[49:23] >> and a lot of things going on with Fine
[49:25] University down there. It's also the
[49:26] home of the Blue D Blue Blue Devils, the
[49:28] basketball champions of America.
[49:31] >> Clinton's getting very close now, Tom.
[49:37] on behalf of the tremendous people of
[49:40] North Dakota,
[49:42] which leads the nation in education,
[49:46] which was the first state to meet the
[49:48] standards of the Clean Air Act, the
[49:50] first state to meet the standards of the
[49:52] Clean Water Act, the state with the
[49:56] lowest crime rate,
[49:58] the state consistently ranked as having
[50:01] the best manufacturing climate in the
[50:04] United States,
[50:05] I proudly cast
[50:08] 18 votes for Governor Bill Clinton and
[50:12] Senator Al Gore and one other vote.
[50:19] >> That's George Center who's the governor
[50:21] of Northakota retiring this year. Ohio
[50:24] is next and that will do it.
[50:25] >> Governor Clinton and one other vote
[50:30] Ohio.
[50:33] You remember, John, during the course of
[50:34] the primary that Ohio was an important
[50:37] win for Bill Clinton. They had a couple
[50:39] of stopper places along the way.
[50:41] Illinois was one and Ohio was another.
[50:45] Madam Secretary,
[50:46] >> it's always been a terribly important
[50:48] state in presidential elections, but you
[50:51] can just sort of feel the tension
[50:52] building here now.
[50:56] Tension or relief? Well, I guess it's
[50:58] mad madam sec.
[51:01] >> Yes. If there's tension, I'm going to
[51:03] start paying attention.
[51:08] There they are.
[51:14] Yeah. What a trial this family has been
[51:17] through.
[51:19] And this is a moment they should be able
[51:20] to save.
[51:22] >> Madam Madam Secretary.
[51:25] >> Yes, Mr. Chairman. Madame Secretary,
[51:29] the great state of Ohio, the state that
[51:32] gave us light, the state that gave us
[51:34] flight, and the state that gave America,
[51:38] the great John Glenn.
[51:46] Ohio wants change. America wants change.
[51:50] And Ohio cast 144 votes for the next
[51:54] president of the United States, Bill
[51:57] Clinton.
[52:06] Well, no matter how often you count, no
[52:08] matter how secure you may be and what
[52:10] the delegation is going to do, this is a
[52:12] moment to be savored by the presidential
[52:14] nominee of the party. They cannot now
[52:16] take it away from him. Heat.
[52:20] Heat.
[52:40] and Smith who are television producers
[52:43] of some record from Los Angeles were
[52:46] here helping the Democrats put together
[52:48] to show those aspects of the convention.
[52:55] Heat. Heat.
[53:23] Bill Clinton who ran for student office
[53:25] when he was in high school of the boys
[53:28] nation
[53:29] to Georgetown where he was elected first
[53:32] class president then student body
[53:33] president
[53:35] then off to Oxford as a road scholar
[53:38] where he
[53:40] won the friendship of some of the best
[53:42] and brightest of his generation. who are
[53:45] all the FOB group friends of Bill who
[53:48] have been a loyalist to him throughout
[53:50] this
[53:52] running for president of the United
[53:53] States
[54:01] elected governor of Arkansas five times
[54:04] defeated in 1980 those are two-year
[54:06] terms
[54:08] after I served as attorney general
[54:32] You know, John, I can't remember a
[54:35] presidential primary system in which so
[54:39] many people declared a candidate dead
[54:42] and then he went on and won his party
[54:44] nominations.
[54:45] >> Well, you know, right after the right
[54:47] after the California primary, which he
[54:49] won, there were pundits in Washington
[54:51] who were saying he is now irrelevant uh
[54:54] because Ross Perau had the moment and
[54:57] now the latest ABC Washington Post,
[55:00] which I think maybe overstated slightly,
[55:02] has a 17 point lead for Bill Clinton.
[55:06] This was a very fluid situation. The
[55:08] last NBC poll that we had, about 60% of
[55:10] the voters said that they were not
[55:12] entirely happy with their candidates.
[55:13] We'll see what the Clinton voters think
[55:14] at the end of this week. This has gone
[55:16] extremely well for him. He has only one
[55:18] more night, which is to make his own
[55:20] speech. And if he doesn't fumble that,
[55:23] uh, I think you can say that he's he's
[55:25] emerged from New York and is about as
[55:28] strong a position as one could expect.
[55:30] The Boston Globe called him a razorback
[55:32] Rasputin. that you could shoot him, you
[55:34] could hit him with an axe, you could
[55:36] knock it on his head with a 2x4 and he
[55:38] kept right on coming. I think he sure
[55:40] did. Yeah. Some people see him as the
[55:43] kind of the reincarnation of a happy
[55:45] warrior in the tradition of Al Smith and
[55:47] Hubert Humphrey. He loves the business
[55:50] of politics
[55:52] and he loves camping.
[56:08] Well, they're going to get Bill. He's on
[56:09] his way from
[56:11] Herald Square, just a few blocks away
[56:13] here in New York by motorcade. There it
[56:15] is. From New York's finest escorting him
[56:18] through the Cordon streets around
[56:20] Madison Square Garden.
[56:29] Well, John, conventions have changed a
[56:31] lot over the years, and our coverage of
[56:33] them obviously has changed profoundly as
[56:35] well, but this moment has not changed.
[56:37] No, it really hasn't. This is the
[56:39] culminating moment in in any long
[56:42] process like this.
[56:43] And you can have they didn't have
[56:46] television back in the 20s, but they had
[56:49] the lights and they had the bands and
[56:50] they had the cheering and clapping and
[56:52] applauding.
[56:54] So that part of the process hasn't
[56:55] changed at all. It's just that millions
[56:57] of people get to look at it.
[57:08] Despite the public apathy and anxiety
[57:10] and those kind of twin sentiments this
[57:12] year, it still is a great indoor sport
[57:16] and nothing defines who we are and where
[57:19] we're going like politics.
[57:22] Well, the Democrats fought out the
[57:25] Vietnam War. Uh they fought out race
[57:28] relations. Both parties did that. These
[57:31] parties in convention have fought out
[57:33] things like the Civil War, slavery,
[57:35] prohibition. All the great issues in
[57:37] American life have been have been
[57:39] debated at these conventions producing
[57:41] different kinds of candidates on
[57:43] different sides of these questions.
[57:45] These are the hinges of American history
[57:47] that you see in front of you at these
[57:48] conventions. And now you see the
[57:51] Democratic Party having gone to the left
[57:53] moving back toward the center
[57:58] in the hall tonight. I was George and
[58:00] George and Elellanar McGovern. And of
[58:02] course, it was George McGovern who moved
[58:04] the party in a different direction,
[58:06] reflecting the times as he did in the
[58:07] 1960s.
[58:12] Preseason sale has nothing to do with
[58:14] the campaign, by the way.
[58:29] very strong relationship with his
[58:30] daughter Chelsea. They talked about the
[58:32] perils of campaigning uh when there were
[58:34] all those very unsavory stories about
[58:37] Fidelity and Jennifer Flower. They
[58:39] talked then she paid very careful
[58:41] attention. She did apparently have a
[58:43] very mature relationship with three of
[58:45] them, only child. She faxed her homework
[58:48] to her father along the campaign trail
[58:51] so that he could review it with her and
[58:53] talk to her about it.
[59:04] Well, Macy's must be happy about this.
[59:05] They can use the business given the debt
[59:07] load that they're carrying these days.
[59:09] And there's no gimbals to call anymore.
[59:10] >> That's right.
[59:17] I think that they the city of New York
[59:19] expects to pick up about $111 million uh
[59:22] in various forms of revenue during the
[59:24] course of this week.
[59:26] as a city in need of all of that. Now
[59:28] out the doors
[59:31] for the short ride to
[59:34] walk as you know Tom it's raining here.
[59:50] 7
[59:56] and a lot of Democratic along this
[59:59] street
[60:04] very
[60:12] A lot of our business has been shipped
[60:14] overseas,
[60:18] but it's still a powerful force in the
[60:21] city. This is a page out of Jimmy
[60:24] Carter's inauguration. He walked down
[60:26] Pennsylvania Avenue.
[60:38] There have been large crowds around
[60:39] Madison Square Garden for the last few
[60:41] days and obviously there are many people
[60:43] out there on the street tonight. About
[60:46] uh 2 or 3 hours ago, we were getting
[60:49] they had terrible rainstorms out there,
[60:52] thunder and lightning.