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[0:01] Buchanan. The way most think that cut is
[0:03] that that took away from Bill Clinton,
[0:04] the good old boy from the South. And if
[0:06] they hadn't been able to do that,
[0:07] Clinton might have had an even bigger
[0:08] victory here.
[0:09] >> All right, Mike. Thanks very much. ABC's
[0:10] Mike Von Frem. On the Republican side,
[0:12] now it kind of looked like New Hampshire
[0:14] all over again. President Bush did sweep
[0:16] all three of the primaries for the
[0:17] Republicans yesterday, but for Patrick
[0:19] Buchanan, this produced another episode
[0:21] of 30-something. In Maryland, first of
[0:23] all, President Bush took 70% of the
[0:25] vote. Buchanan there got 30%. More of
[0:28] the same in Colorado, 67% for the
[0:30] president, 30% for Mr. Buchanan. And in
[0:32] the first primary in the South, Georgia,
[0:35] President Bush getting 64% and Patrick
[0:37] Buchanan, a rather healthy, according to
[0:38] some observers, a rather healthy 36%.
[0:41] Both candidates are now calling
[0:42] themselves winners, and we're going to
[0:43] go to the White House right now. ABC's
[0:45] Ann Compton is standing by live this
[0:47] morning to tell us about how much of a
[0:49] winner the president really feels this
[0:51] morning, Ann.
[0:52] >> Well, the good news, Mike, for President
[0:53] Bush is the protest vote against him
[0:55] didn't get any worse. The bad news is it
[0:57] didn't get any better. But in a
[0:59] telephone call to his supporters in
[1:01] Atlanta last night, President Bush vowed
[1:04] that he would win every one of the
[1:06] primaries and go on to lock up the
[1:07] nomination.
[1:10] >> I'm just so grateful to you. When you
[1:12] take what we've done in Georgia and then
[1:14] add it to Maryland and add it to
[1:15] Colorado, uh it's been a good night. And
[1:19] you all did a marvelous job, and I am
[1:21] very, very grateful, and I leave
[1:23] tomorrow for Florida. We're going to
[1:25] work in these uh Super Tuesday states.
[1:28] So far, we've won every state. Now, I
[1:30] believe we'll win the rest of them.
[1:32] >> At [snorts] his Atlanta celebration, Pat
[1:34] Buchanan crowed that his forces racked
[1:36] up 37% of the vote in just 5 days of
[1:39] campaigning. It had taken him 10 weeks
[1:42] to do that well in the first primary.
[1:44] >> The Buchanan brigades have grown from
[1:47] the tens into the hundreds, into the
[1:49] thousands, and now we're in the tens of
[1:51] thousands. But now, my friends,
[1:53] they got to rise up all over this
[1:54] country.
[1:56] We got 10 battles
[1:57] in the next 7 days.
[2:00] Folks have got to join up. We need all
[2:02] the recruits and all the volunteers we
[2:04] can get across this country.
[2:06] >> There's no question Patrick Buchanan did
[2:08] take from President Bush some of those
[2:10] who supported Bush before. And the
[2:12] president said in a written statement
[2:14] last night to those who had been his
[2:16] supporters but did not vote for him this
[2:17] time, he understands their frustration
[2:20] with Washington. He hopes to bring them
[2:22] home to his camp. Mike.
[2:24] >> And it was just about this time
[2:25] yesterday that the White House put out
[2:26] the word the president regretted giving
[2:29] in on that tax increase a couple of
[2:30] years back that he was pretty much sorry
[2:32] about it. Does the White House think
[2:33] that had any impact on the vote
[2:34] yesterday? And obviously they must have
[2:35] hopes that it will in the future.
[2:37] >> Well, obviously it had it's very
[2:39] difficult to assess what kind of vote
[2:41] impact it had on voters who are going to
[2:42] the polls at the very time the president
[2:44] made this kind of admission. I think
[2:46] perhaps the real target for that is
[2:47] Super Tuesday. President Bush leaves
[2:49] here within the hour for a sweep across
[2:52] Super Tuesday states hitting every
[2:54] single one of them. And he hopes that
[2:56] that message along with the family
[2:58] values and the improving economy will do
[3:00] the trick by next Tuesday. But I also
[3:03] think the administration's kind of dug
[3:04] in and realizes that there's just 30%
[3:07] vote out there. After all, even
[3:08] uncommitted in South Dakota last week
[3:10] got 30%. They are resigned to that size
[3:13] protest vote until the economy gets any
[3:15] better.
[3:16] >> Ann, thanks very much. ABC's Ann Compton
[3:18] live for us this morning at the White
[3:20] House. And that does it for now from
[3:21] Atlanta. Back with more news a little
[3:22] bit later in the broadcast. Let's get
[3:24] back to New York right now and Joan
[3:25] Esposito.
[3:26] >> All right, Mike. Thank you very much. It
[3:27] is 8 minutes after and it is time for
[3:29] Spencer Christian. What you got on the
[3:30] map?
[3:30] >> A little bit of a stormy map today.
[3:32] Texas is hard hit again. Texas was
[3:34] pounded over the months of I guess
[3:35] December, January, much of February with
[3:37] heavy rain. Remember the flooding down
[3:38] there? And now the heavy rains are back.
[3:40] So I'll show you what's going on. Joan,
[3:41] we'll take a satellite view of the
[3:43] movement of weather systems in the last
[3:44] 18 hours or so from late yesterday to
[3:47] very early this morning. You can see
[3:48] violent thunderstorms erupting here in
[3:50] central Texas and up in northeastern and
[3:52] eastern Texas as well, pushing towards
[3:54] the lower Mississippi Valley. These
[3:55] storms generally brought about 2 to 3
[3:56] inches of rainfall, so there is chance
[3:59] of some local flooding here, but they
[4:00] also produced large hailstones, strong
[4:02] damaging winds, and some tornadoes were
[4:03] sighted as well. Now, during the early
[4:05] morning hours, we expect these storms to
[4:06] lose their intensity and taper off, but
[4:08] they'll redevelop later today here in
[4:10] eastern Texas, and they'll push up
[4:11] eastward and northward as well. As we go
[4:13] to the big picture, take a look at the
[4:14] forecast for the entire nation. We're
[4:16] calling for heavy rainfall and
[4:17] thunderstorms from about the central
[4:19] plains Kansas down through Oklahoma and
[4:21] eastern Texas, and then later today
[4:23] eastward into Arkansas and Louisiana.
[4:25] And there'll be a lot of rainfall here.
[4:26] Storms will be quite violent, could
[4:27] produce some damaging winds, and
[4:28] possibly some tornadoes. Most of the
[4:30] remainder of the nation will have much
[4:32] calmer weather, and there could be
[4:33] substantial snowfall as well here in the
[4:35] central Rockies of Colorado. That's a
[4:37] look at the national weather. Here's a
[4:38] look at the weather where you are.
[4:40] >> Good morning, everyone. I'm
[4:41] meteorologist Matt Safino. Temperatures
[4:43] are in the mid-40s this morning under
[4:44] mostly cloudy skies, and looks like
[4:47] those cloudy skies will lead to some
[4:48] rain by later today in the form of
[4:50] showers and possibly a thunderstorm.
[4:52] High temperatures right around 60°.
[4:56] >> And more of the latest news on the
[4:57] storms coming up in the next half hour.
[4:59] Charlie?
[5:01] >> Thanks, Pat. True, it's 10 after the
[5:02] hour now. Right now, Arkansas Governor
[5:03] Bill Clinton now has a primary victory
[5:05] to call his own, and a very substantial
[5:07] victory it was at that. In the state of
[5:10] Georgia, the governor rolled over his
[5:12] nearest rival, Paul Tsongas, by a 57 to
[5:14] 24% margin. And Governor Bill Clinton is
[5:17] joining us this morning from Miami,
[5:18] where he is already campaigning for next
[5:20] week's Super Tuesday primary. Governor
[5:22] Clinton, congratulations.
[5:24] >> Thank you. Good morning.
[5:25] >> Inevitably, on these mornings after the
[5:28] contest aspects prevail over the policy
[5:30] aspects. How would you rate this race
[5:31] right now?
[5:34] >> Well, I don't want to get into that. I
[5:35] think it's obvious that
[5:36] the change candidates won. The people
[5:39] that are preaching a message of change
[5:41] I feel great about the victory in
[5:43] Georgia because it was so massive. No
[5:44] one else has gotten anything close to
[5:46] that kind of majority, and I think it's
[5:47] because we were able to sort out for
[5:49] people who were saying, "What about
[5:51] change?" But the people who had
[5:53] presented themselves as having a
[5:54] coherent plan for change, and who were
[5:56] and presented themselves as outsiders to
[5:58] Washington, uh got most of the votes
[6:00] last night. Uh Senator Tsongas, Governor
[6:02] Brown, and myself. I think that shows
[6:04] that the American people are ready for a
[6:06] dramatic change. The rest of this
[6:07] primary is about who's offering what
[6:09] kind of change. And I've offered a new
[6:12] economic plan for the '90s, the only
[6:14] real departure from what the Democrats
[6:15] and the Republicans have been doing. I
[6:17] think that's what Democrats and
[6:19] thoughtful independents and Republicans
[6:20] will want, and I'm encouraged about the
[6:21] result.
[6:22] >> It was a victory, certainly of very big
[6:23] proportions in the state of Georgia. But
[6:26] your supporters 2 weeks ago were saying,
[6:27] "Paul Tsongas won't travel. He is a
[6:29] regional candidate in New England." He
[6:32] won yesterday in the Mid-Atlantic in
[6:33] Maryland, in the mountain states in
[6:34] Utah, in the far wet Northwest, in in
[6:37] the state of Washington.
[6:38] Is it at least at the moment, are you
[6:40] the regional candidate?
[6:42] >> Uh no, I'm not the regional candidate. I
[6:44] also defeated him in Colorado, in a
[6:46] state where I was 12 points behind
[6:48] Senator Tsongas just a few days ago. Uh
[6:50] we got within six points, I think, in
[6:52] Maryland, a state where I was 12 or 13
[6:54] points behind a week ago. We closed the
[6:56] gap by half. Uh listen, I never thought
[6:59] Paul Tsongas was a regional candidate.
[7:01] When you win New England, even if you
[7:03] live in a town 4 miles from New
[7:05] Excuse me, when you win New Hampshire,
[7:07] even when you when you live in a town 4
[7:09] miles from New Hampshire, uh the press
[7:11] bump you get is enormous. I didn't
[7:12] campaign in Utah. I was only able to go
[7:14] to Washington once. He went there four
[7:16] or five times. I had to focus on the
[7:18] states where the primaries were held,
[7:20] and I'm very pleased with the results.
[7:21] >> Governor, there's a a lot of Democrats
[7:23] who cheer the fact that Pat Buchanan and
[7:25] President Bush are whaling away at one
[7:27] another. Is there a chance that the two
[7:29] of you, uh Senator Tsongas and you,
[7:31] Governor Clinton, are going to whale
[7:32] away at each other to the point that
[7:33] it'll injure the Democratic Party come
[7:35] election time?
[7:36] >> I don't think so. I think that uh quite
[7:38] the contrary is true. If we don't make
[7:40] clear our differences
[7:42] with one another,
[7:43] uh then we will weaken the ultimate
[7:45] nominee by making that person vulnerable
[7:47] to the attacks of George Bush in the
[7:49] fall. Uh that's why even though uh
[7:51] I've been through some pretty rough
[7:52] stuff, uh and have had to deal with it
[7:55] and come back from the dead, uh since we
[7:58] know that the Republicans love those red
[7:59] meat destruct, divide, distract
[8:02] campaigns, uh that may not be all bad.
[8:04] And I think that, you know, in good
[8:06] conscience it would be wrong for for me,
[8:08] for example, not to try to point out the
[8:10] distinctions between the kind of change
[8:12] I offer and that offered by my
[8:13] opponents. That is not negative. I think
[8:15] we ought to focus on the differences in
[8:17] our recommendations for the future and
[8:19] how our records reflect that.
[8:20] >> Governor Clinton, good to talk to you
[8:22] again. Congratulations on yesterday and
[8:23] look forward to talking to you again in
[8:24] the coming weeks.
[8:25] >> Thank you.
[8:27] >> On the Republican side of the ledger,
[8:28] Pat Buchanan has once again shown that
[8:30] he can gather some surprising support
[8:31] running against an incumbent president.
[8:33] In Georgia, Buchanan finished with 36%
[8:35] of the vote to 64% for President Bush.
[8:38] And I spoke with Pat Buchanan just a few
[8:40] moments before we went on the air this
[8:41] morning.
[8:42] Pat Buchanan, I heard you last night
[8:44] talking to very exuberant supporters,
[8:46] but to be blunt,
[8:48] the protest vote is still there, but
[8:50] it's not growing, and you lost three
[8:52] times last night.
[8:54] >> Well, Charlie, I think if you take a
[8:55] look at Georgia, uh I think we won the
[8:58] campaign down there. We came down there
[8:59] at something like 15% at most. Uh we
[9:02] campaigned against the president. We did
[9:04] extraordinarily well. He didn't have the
[9:06] economic situation he had in New
[9:07] Hampshire. He had to use attack ads and
[9:10] attack surrogates to slow me down. He
[9:12] had to come into the state several
[9:14] times. I think this campaign is winning
[9:17] the war of issues and ideas, and I don't
[9:19] think there's any doubt about it. And
[9:21] last night's showing, which matched New
[9:22] Hampshire in 5 days, not 10 weeks, means
[9:25] we're going all the way to that
[9:26] convention.
[9:26] >> Well, Pat, I heard you say that last
[9:28] night, and yet a few days ago I on the
[9:30] Brinkley show, I heard you very bluntly
[9:32] and very practically say, "Look, at some
[9:34] point we have to win something. At some
[9:36] point it becomes counterproductive to
[9:37] simply uh be a protest candidacy, which
[9:40] isn't all the way or or do you have to
[9:43] show something at some point that you
[9:45] can beat the president somewhere?
[9:47] >> Charlie, if the president decides to
[9:49] fight all the way to the convention
[9:50] delegate by delegate caucus by caucus as
[9:53] well as primaries, it is very very
[9:55] problematic how you can beat him. That's
[9:57] right. I have to start winning somewhere
[9:59] and we're going to look around for some
[10:00] states on Super Tuesday, but it is time
[10:03] Charlie that the president himself took
[10:06] a look at exactly what is he winning.
[10:08] All he is holding Charlie is the
[10:09] Republican base. Loyalists are voting
[10:11] for him because he is the president. He
[10:14] has the title. I am winning all of the
[10:17] swing votes that Ronald Reagan and
[10:18] George Bush got to give us our majority.
[10:21] Young people, I went among them. I went
[10:23] among union folks. I went among
[10:25] Democrats. I went among independents.
[10:27] George Bush is being reduced to his base
[10:30] and I think it's he's got to ask himself
[10:32] why he's continuing all the way to a
[10:34] second term. What does he want?
[10:36] >> But did I hear you at the beginning of
[10:37] that answer say, "Look, if the president
[10:38] can contest this all the way through,
[10:39] he's going to win this thing?"
[10:41] >> I think Charlie, unless I start beating
[10:43] him in in some states and break this
[10:46] thing open as I've I felt we have to do,
[10:49] uh that there's no doubt he is the
[10:50] favorite right now. But if I can start
[10:53] winning a couple of states, I still
[10:54] think he could collapse like a house of
[10:56] cards. In other words, he'll suddenly
[10:58] drop his support level way down below
[11:00] where it is now and we'll start winning
[11:02] one primary after another the way Ronald
[11:04] Reagan did in '76.
[11:05] >> You have been very careful in the early
[11:06] stages of this to say this is not an ad
[11:08] hominem attack on my part. I don't want
[11:10] to wound the president and yet a number
[11:12] of Republicans last night were saying
[11:14] that the Georgia campaign turned mean
[11:16] and mean on Pat Buchanan's part. Did it?
[11:19] >> No, Charlie. We ran ads which basically
[11:22] said, "Here's what George Bush said
[11:23] about funding the arts, what he said
[11:26] about quotas, here is what he did."
[11:28] There is nothing wrong with that. If you
[11:29] want to take take at the politics of
[11:31] mean, take a look at some of Mr. Bush's
[11:33] surrogates and what they're saying about
[11:35] me personally. Personally, I think
[11:37] George Bush is a man of character, of
[11:39] personal courage, of integrity, who
[11:42] served his country well, and I will
[11:43] never say different. But, he does make
[11:45] promises up there in Washington and not
[11:48] keep them. And he is running a liberal
[11:50] Republican administration, Charlie, that
[11:52] is losing all the Reagan Democrats left
[11:55] and right.
[11:57] >> Pat Buchanan, just a few moments before
[11:58] we went on the air. Our appreciation to
[12:00] him. Jerry Brown, the surprise winner in
[12:01] Colorado, with us in our next half hour.
[12:03] When we come back, some Wednesday
[12:04] morning quarterbacking. We'll be right
[12:05] back.
[12:09] Atlanta with some post-primary thoughts
[12:10] is Chris Matthews, former aide to the
[12:12] Democratic leadership in Congress and
[12:14] currently the Washington bureau chief of
[12:15] the San Francisco Examiner. And with us
[12:17] from Los Angeles at an early hour is
[12:19] Bill Bennett, a loyal Republican who
[12:20] served in both the Bush and Reagan
[12:21] administrations. Thank you both for
[12:23] being here. Chris, let me start quickly
[12:24] with you. Parse this out for me. Uh Bill
[12:27] Clinton wins very big in Georgia, but
[12:28] Paul Tsongas wins cross-country. How's
[12:31] it stand now?
[12:32] >> Well, it looks very good for Clinton
[12:33] right now because if you look at the
[12:34] calendar next week, Super Tuesday is
[12:37] dominated by Southern states, and Bill
[12:39] Clinton won so big here, some 60% to
[12:41] something like 20% for Tsongas, that you
[12:44] have to figure that he's going to do
[12:45] very well as the Southern candidate.
[12:47] >> didn't No, he didn't Tsongas didn't
[12:48] contest Georgia.
[12:50] >> Tsongas uh is on the ballot, and I'm
[12:52] telling you, I think uh look at the Look
[12:54] at the calendar next week. Clinton is in
[12:55] great shape to win this nomination
[12:57] within 2 weeks.
[12:58] >> Really? Even though Even though it is
[13:00] certainly weighted to the South. I asked
[13:01] him a moment ago if he doesn't look at
[13:03] the moment like the regional candidate.
[13:05] >> Well, well, he doesn't want it that way.
[13:07] He wants to be able to win in the South,
[13:08] but not say he's the regional candidate.
[13:10] You know, he can get it both get it both
[13:11] ways. I think Clinton is going to be the
[13:13] nominee at this point. It's a If you
[13:15] just look at the calendar, Tennessee,
[13:16] Texas, Mississippi, Oklahoma, uh
[13:19] Delaware, all border or Southern states
[13:21] next week. It's going to be very
[13:22] difficult. Bob Kerrey said a few moments
[13:23] ago on this show, he can't win anywhere.
[13:25] I think Tsongas can win in Rhode Island
[13:27] and Massachusetts, but look at the rest
[13:29] of those states.
[13:30] >> Interesting that you think he could wrap
[13:31] it up in a that Bill Clinton could wrap
[13:32] it up in a couple of weeks. Bill
[13:33] Bennett, let me turn to the Republican
[13:35] side. Pat Buchanan a moment ago I
[13:36] thought rather candid saying that he's
[13:39] got to win somewhere and he's got to win
[13:40] somewhere pretty quickly.
[13:42] >> Yeah, he seemed candid and and chastened
[13:44] somewhat. I think as you said at the top
[13:46] of the hour Charlie or someone said it's
[13:48] 30 something. This is in some ways the
[13:50] bad news for each side. George Bush has
[13:52] to deal with the fact that 30% or so of
[13:55] people voting in the Republican
[13:56] primaries are very unhappy and
[13:58] dissatisfied with the way things have
[13:59] gone. He's got to get those people back.
[14:02] On Buchanan's side it doesn't seem to
[14:04] make much difference whether he shows up
[14:05] in a state or not. There's a 30%
[14:07] something protest vote against George
[14:09] Bush anyway. What's the value added? I
[14:11] think Pat Buchanan's beginning to
[14:13] realize it. I think most significant
[14:15] thing politically this week Charlie is
[14:17] the president's admission that he made a
[14:19] mistake on the tax
[14:20] >> going to ask you about that.
[14:21] >> tax thing. And now I think that's that's
[14:23] a that's a good start for him. Now I
[14:24] think he needs to pick up on that. Take
[14:26] his initiatives to the hill, capital
[14:28] gains, term limits, whatever
[14:30] and a line item veto and get momentum
[14:33] that way. He's trying to restore that
[14:35] bond that was broken by the breaking of
[14:37] that promise.
[14:37] >> Very quickly, let me ask you each to
[14:38] comment on the other party. I'll start
[14:40] with you Bill Bennett. The Democrats
[14:42] Bill Clinton and Paul Tsongas saying
[14:44] mean things about one another in the
[14:45] past week. Are they hurting each other?
[14:47] >> I think they are but that field is now
[14:49] starting to clear out. I think Harkin's
[14:51] gone and and Kerry's in trouble. We'll
[14:53] continue to watch this. Again, we like
[14:55] Tsongas being in the race. The longer
[14:57] he's in the race the more we can use him
[14:58] as a witness against the Democratic
[15:00] proposals in Washington. He's in favor
[15:03] of many of the things we're in favor of.
[15:04] >> All right, Chris, let me have you
[15:05] comment on that and ask you if the if
[15:06] Buchanan and Bush are beginning to hurt
[15:07] each other badly.
[15:08] >> I think Buchanan is proving that he's
[15:10] very much at the heart of the Republican
[15:11] Party. Many of the things he's saying
[15:12] out on the stump about quotas, about
[15:14] race, about ethnicity are the things the
[15:16] Republican Party has used for the last
[15:17] 12 years to win the presidency. He is
[15:19] basically the Willie Horton campaign
[15:21] part two. Pat Buchanan is very much a
[15:24] traditional Republican of the 1990s and
[15:27] the party has been trying to disown him,
[15:28] but you know, it's like the police
[15:29] inspector in in Casablanca. He's part of
[15:33] the party.
[15:33] >> George Bush repudiated Duke, [music] Pat
[15:35] won.
[15:36] >> All right, very good. Bill, I that's
[15:38] we'll leave it on that problematic note
[15:39] of whether Pat Buchanan is a mainstream
[15:41] Republican. Thank [music] you both.
[15:42] We're we'll be back.
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[16:28] All in the Family, but in this half
[16:30] hour, he's going to tell us about his
[16:32] foundation that honors community-minded
[16:34] businesses. Then Dr. Bob Arnot takes us
[16:36] where TV cameras have never been before
[16:40] inside an Overeaters Anonymous meeting.
[16:43] >> Also just ahead, Chevy Chase is
[16:45] appearing in a new movie called Memoirs
[16:47] of an Invisible Man.
[16:49] >> Man.
[16:50] >> Man.
[16:50] >> Got that. Our movie critic Gene Siskel
[16:52] will tell us if there is much to see.
[16:55] >> You want to hazard a guess?
[16:57] >> I think he probably didn't like the
[16:58] movie too much, but stick around.
[17:00] >> out in this half hour. Yeah. Time now
[17:02] for this morning's news. The Democratic
[17:04] presidential field seems even more
[17:06] scrambled than ever after yesterday's
[17:07] primaries. Bill Clinton won his first
[17:10] primary, but so did Jerry Brown and Paul
[17:12] Tsongas added two more victories to his
[17:15] record. On the Republican side,
[17:16] President Bush scored three more primary
[17:18] wins, but Patrick Buchanan continued to
[17:21] roll up about 1/3 of the vote. The
[17:24] president attended Ash Wednesday
[17:25] services this morning before returning
[17:27] to the campaign trail. He is flying
[17:29] today to Florida, one of the states
[17:31] holding primaries on Super Tuesday next
[17:33] week. The White House acknowledged this
[17:35] morning that Buchanan is benefiting from
[17:38] a protest vote. In Atlanta last night,
[17:41] Buchanan called his 35% showing in
[17:43] Georgia a victory. He said it propelled
[17:46] him toward next Tuesday's round of
[17:48] primaries in the South. For the
[17:50] Democrats, Bill Clinton is savoring his
[17:52] first primary win, a decisive victory in
[17:55] Georgia. Clinton told supporters the
[17:57] country is ready for his message of
[17:59] change. He's hoping this will be the
[18:01] start of a string of primary victories
[18:03] in the South over the next week or so.
[18:06] Paul Tsongas has dubbed himself the
[18:08] breakthrough kid after wins in Maryland
[18:10] and Utah. Tsongas says his victories
[18:13] prove the appeal of his message beyond
[18:15] his home region of New England, and
[18:17] Colorado gave Jerry Brown his first
[18:19] primary win. Brown's narrow victory
[18:22] allows him to continue receiving federal
[18:24] matching funds crucial to his low-budget
[18:27] campaign.
[18:29] There is some other news besides
[18:30] politics this morning, including results
[18:32] of a new study of the causes and
[18:34] treatment of high blood pressure. Health
[18:36] correspondent Edie Magnus reports that
[18:39] the old-fashioned way works best.
[18:44] >> The study looked at people 30 to 54 who
[18:46] are in a gray zone. Their blood pressure
[18:48] isn't so high they need medication, but
[18:50] it's higher than normal, keeping them at
[18:52] risk for developing hypertension, which
[18:54] can lead to heart disease or stroke.
[18:57] >> All right.
[18:58] Show and tell.
[19:00] >> Some tried lowering blood pressure by
[19:01] losing weight, others by reducing salt
[19:04] intake. A third group tried reducing
[19:06] stress with relaxation or breathing
[19:08] exercises or stretching.
[19:12] >> Two things that seemed to work well were
[19:13] weight loss and sodium restriction. And
[19:16] really there's a
[19:17] major body of evidence that would have
[19:19] suggested that might be the case.
[19:21] Surprisingly, in a sense, stress
[19:23] management didn't do much.
[19:24] >> Neither did nutritional supplements.
[19:26] Members of a fourth group took daily
[19:28] doses of either calcium, potassium,
[19:30] magnesium, or fish oil. The researchers,
[19:33] reporting in the Journal of the American
[19:35] Medical Association, found no
[19:37] significant effects on diastolic or
[19:39] systolic blood pressure among them.
[19:42] >> Bad diets, which involve taking large
[19:45] amounts of one particular type of
[19:47] supplement, are unlikely to be effective
[19:49] in lowering blood pressure.
[19:50] >> Experts say there may be other reasons
[19:52] to take nutritional supplements, and
[19:54] stress reduction certainly isn't bad for
[19:56] you. But it's the approaches that are
[19:58] harder, keeping the weight off and
[19:59] keeping sodium in the diet to a minimum,
[20:02] that appear to help prevent
[20:03] hypertension.
[20:04] Ed Magnus, CBS News, New York.
[20:07] >> Finally, in New Orleans, is what Ash
[20:10] Wednesday is also known as the morning
[20:12] after. That is, the morning after Fat
[20:15] Tuesday, the exuberant climax of Mardi
[20:17] Gras. Perhaps a million celebrants had
[20:19] fun helping Rex, the Mardi Gras king,
[20:22] close out the carnival season.
[20:25] 25 minutes before the hour, and here is
[20:27] Mark with the weather from the Dodgers
[20:28] spring training camp in Vero Beach,
[20:30] Florida. Mark has decided to give up the
[20:32] Mets for Lent.
[20:34] >> Yes, [laughter] I am giving up the Mets
[20:36] for Lent for the Dodgers. By the way,
[20:38] Tommy will be up in just a second, Tommy
[20:39] Lasorda. Look at the weather map. Most
[20:41] of the country is going to be mild,
[20:42] especially east of the Mississippi. Oh,
[20:43] let me also tell you that this weather
[20:45] segment is sponsored by Mr. Goodwrench,
[20:46] the GM expert at participating GM
[20:48] dealerships. Don't want to overlook
[20:49] that. Now, look at the map, and let's
[20:52] talk about it. East of the Mississippi,
[20:53] it's going to be
[20:55] >> Unfortunately, we didn't win, but
[20:56] Atlanta did, and they and they did a
[20:58] super job. When you win 93 ball games in
[21:00] the season, and you don't win it, that's
[21:02] a pretty unfortunate. But it was a great
[21:05] season, and we're looking forward to
[21:06] 1992 now with a great deal of optimism
[21:10] and a great deal of
[21:12] of
[21:14] good feeling about it, believe me.
[21:16] >> did you do in the off season that you
[21:17] think that has given you a lot of that
[21:18] good feeling?
[21:19] >> Well, we needed a right-handed power
[21:20] hitter desperately because we were over
[21:22] That's right. We we acquired Eric Davis.
[21:24] I You know, I can remember when
[21:26] Cincinnati won the World Series and
[21:27] someone said to me, "If you had to start
[21:29] a major league team and you can pick any
[21:30] player you wanted to start it, who would
[21:32] you pick?" And I without any hesitation
[21:35] I said, "Eric Davis." To me he's a
[21:36] five-point player, Mark. He can hit, he
[21:38] can hit with power, he can run, he can
[21:40] field, and he can throw.
[21:41] >> All right. Uh real quickly, on your
[21:43] other side of your life, have they
[21:44] gotten a pasta flavored SlimFast yet for
[21:46] you for your Ultra SlimFast commercial?
[21:47] >> We're coming out with it very soon and
[21:50] I think that
[21:51] SlimFast has done a tremendous thing for
[21:53] me. It's allowed me to keep myself in
[21:55] pretty good shape. I feel great. In
[21:57] fact, uh
[21:59] I once every once in a while I I I feel
[22:02] so good that every once in a while I try
[22:04] to go out in the rain with no shirt on
[22:05] to see if I can catch a cold to find out
[22:07] if I'm human or not and by golly I got
[22:09] one, so
[22:10] >> [laughter]
[22:10] >> I found out that I'm human now.
[22:11] >> All right. Well, Tommy, thanks so much
[22:13] for being with us. We'll be hooting and
[22:14] hollering for you all night and day.
[22:15] >> Remember one thing.
[22:16] >> What's that?
[22:16] >> You don't keep pulling for the Dodgers,
[22:18] there's a good chance you may not get
[22:19] into heaven.
[22:20] >> [laughter]
[22:21] >> Thank you, Tommy, for that advice. Thank
[22:22] you.
[22:23] >> see you again.
[22:23] >> Good to see you, too, Paula.
[22:24] >> I guess Harry's right, you really are
[22:25] going to give up the Mets for a while.
[22:27] >> so. I think so.
[22:28] >> him I said hello. I'm a big fan of
[22:29] >> We'll do.
[22:29] >> Thanks so much.
[22:30] >> Paula.
[22:30] >> Can American businesses serve the bottom
[22:32] line and the community? The Business
[22:34] Enterprise Trust says it must. And this
[22:37] year it is honoring five companies that
[22:39] have succeeded. The organization was
[22:41] founded by TV pioneer Norman Lear, who
[22:43] also produced the hit movie Fried Green
[22:45] Tomatoes. He joins us this morning with
[22:48] businessman J. Irwin Miller, this year's
[22:50] lifetime achievement award winner. Good
[22:52] morning and congratulations to you.
[22:54] >> Oh, good morning to you.
[22:55] >> Norman, describe to us why you ever came
[22:58] up with this idea of the award in the
[22:59] first place.
[23:01] >> Well, it seemed time business uh
[23:04] getting into as much trouble as it gets
[23:05] into on the front pages of our
[23:07] newspapers
[23:08] to uh to show that there are true
[23:10] American heroes in American business.
[23:12] Uh men and women who build companies
[23:15] with everybody, all of the stakeholders
[23:17] in mind.
[23:18] Uh
[23:19] and my hero heroes in American business
[23:22] is J. Irwin Miller
[23:23] who built an amazing uh company, the
[23:26] Cummins Engine Company with uh all of
[23:29] that use humanistic values, worker
[23:31] friendly, community friendly, world
[23:34] friendly. A a giant company that uh that
[23:39] wanted to be right for everybody.
[23:41] >> That's what I want to talk to you about,
[23:42] Irwin. What you feel is business's
[23:44] responsibility to the communities where
[23:47] you live and work in.
[23:49] >> You know, um
[23:51] every
[23:53] business wants to be located in what it
[23:55] calls a good community. [clears throat]
[23:57] They hunt them out and find them. They
[23:58] don't go into a dump.
[24:01] And uh
[24:02] you have to realize
[24:04] that that community was bought and paid
[24:06] for by somebody else and you get it for
[24:08] free.
[24:09] Well, business doesn't believe in
[24:11] getting things for free. So, how do you
[24:13] pay for something that people long dead
[24:16] have accomplished? You pay for it by
[24:18] leaving that community better than you
[24:20] found it.
[24:21] >> And you've done that in a big way. You
[24:22] have donated 5% of your company's
[24:25] pre-tax profits to charities in addition
[24:27] to 30% of your own income to charities.
[24:31] Have you always felt that way about
[24:33] philanthropy?
[24:34] >> so did my ancestors.
[24:36] >> And tell me why you feel that so deeply
[24:38] that that you must give back to your
[24:41] community?
[24:41] >> don't do very much by yourself. You only
[24:43] do it
[24:44] in uh
[24:48] in by working with other people.
[24:52] And uh
[24:54] whatever money you your
[24:55] make
[24:57] is partly there. You have it in trust.
[25:01] So, you better share it.
[25:02] >> Why should we honor businesses for doing
[25:04] that?
[25:05] >> it's so important, I think, to realize
[25:07] that Mr. Miller, while he did this,
[25:09] built a small family business into a two
[25:12] or three billion-dollar company
[25:14] employing 20-some thousand
[25:16] people. When he left, uh he retired
[25:18] 1972.
[25:20] When he left that company, he had taken
[25:21] a small family business with all of
[25:23] these values,
[25:24] treating the community exactly the way
[25:26] he said, and built it to a
[25:27] 21,000-person,
[25:30] uh company across the world.
[25:33] >> I'm curious of why you feel we need to
[25:35] honor businesses for that kind of
[25:37] contribution. If you accept the premise
[25:39] that that's what they should be doing
[25:40] anyway.
[25:41] >> Well, I for one believe that business
[25:43] has the greatest impact of any
[25:45] institution on the culture.
[25:47] You people, all of us, bring it into the
[25:50] American home 7 hours a day.
[25:52] Uh whatever the corporate ethic is at
[25:55] any given time in America, I think, is
[25:57] the ethic that will is most pervasive in
[26:00] the country.
[26:02] So, if there are men with a corporate
[26:04] ethic like Mr. Miller,
[26:06] good that the country know about him.
[26:08] >> Well, Mr. Miller, it's a real honor to
[26:10] meet you. Congratulations again. And
[26:12] anybody that's been to Columbus, Ohio,
[26:14] can see the footprint that you've left
[26:16] on this today. A lot of impact there.
[26:18] Norman Lear, nice to see you again.
[26:19] >> Nice to see you, Harry.
[26:20] >> Harry.
[26:24] >> ting mental and emotional disorders.
[26:27] Manic depression is generally treated
[26:28] with lithium carbonate, which reduces
[26:31] the number and intensity of manic
[26:33] episodes in 70% of cases.
[26:36] Lithium also appears to prevent episodes
[26:39] of the depressive phase.
[26:41] For Mental Health Minute, I'm Kim
[26:43] Gilbert.
[26:45] >> For more information on today's topic or
[26:47] to arrange a free confidential
[26:48] consultation, call your mental health
[26:51] professionals at Pacific Gateway
[26:53] Hospital, Portland.
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