Nightline (ABC) - 1996-03-05 (Junior Tuesday primaries)
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[0:48] >> March 5th, 1996.
[0:53] Voting in 10 states across the country
[0:56] from New England. Robert Doe because I
[0:59] think he's experienced
[1:00] >> to the south.
[1:01] >> I kind of like Steve Forbes actually. We
[1:03] need more businessmen and less lawyers.
[1:05] >> And in the West,
[1:07] >> we got to get our own act straightened
[1:08] out first. And I think Buchanan can do
[1:10] that.
[1:11] >> With more than 250 delegates at stake,
[1:14] it's the biggest primary day so far. And
[1:18] the clear front runner for the
[1:19] Republican presidential nomination.
[1:22] Well, I know they call this a Junior
[1:24] Tuesday, but it seems pretty super to
[1:27] us, and we're very proud that you're
[1:28] here tonight.
[1:30] >> Tonight, Bob Doe moving into high gear.
[1:38] This is an ABC News Night Line special,
[1:43] the 96 vote, reporting from Washington,
[1:47] Ted Cppel.
[1:49] Perhaps there is a special little corner
[1:51] of hell reserved for journalists where
[1:54] those of us from the electronic media
[1:56] will be forced to watch and listen to an
[1:58] endless loop of our own inaccurate
[2:00] analyses and projections. To our
[2:03] colleagues from the print media, it will
[2:05] look something like this. The recent
[2:08] parade of gloomy headlines about Bob
[2:10] Dole. Doubts about Dole. Dead man
[2:12] walking. Dole has dug himself a hole.
[2:15] Can he climb out? The point being that
[2:17] Bob Dole tonight is a political Lazarus.
[2:20] ABC political director Hal Bruno reports
[2:23] tonight that Lamar Alexander has decided
[2:26] to bow out of the race and will make the
[2:27] announcement tomorrow. ABC News has also
[2:30] learned that Senator Dick Luger has
[2:32] already made the same decision and will
[2:34] tomorrow officially become another
[2:36] footnote to the 1996 presidential race.
[2:40] There are others, of course, still very
[2:42] much in the race, but Senator Dole has
[2:44] administered a sound thrashing to his
[2:47] closest rival tonight, Pat Buchanan, in
[2:49] all eight states where primaries were
[2:51] held. And as for Steve Forbes, were he
[2:54] not financially independent, he might
[2:57] also have been obliged to withdraw from
[2:59] the race. It is far from over. But as I
[3:02] turn to my colleague Peter Jennings at
[3:04] ABC's election headquarters in New York,
[3:06] it seems fair to say, Peter, that this
[3:09] has been a banner day for Bob Dole.
[3:11] Yeah, I think it has, Ted. And in fact,
[3:12] looking at that headline, I think he's
[3:14] began to dig himself out of that hole in
[3:16] South Carolina on Saturday and has had a
[3:18] measure of momentum ever since. He's
[3:20] campaigned everywhere where other
[3:21] candidates had to pick their targets.
[3:23] And there's no question he has the
[3:25] momentum coming out of tonight to go on
[3:27] to the rest of the primaries. Uh, but
[3:28] it's probably also fair to say, as we'll
[3:30] hear, I think in the analysis tonight,
[3:32] that there still are doubts out there
[3:35] about Do Bob Dole. Not to take anything
[3:37] away from his victory tonight, but we
[3:38] were looking through the exit polls
[3:39] earlier to find that in almost every
[3:42] state, almost half the people who voted
[3:44] want someone other than the candidates
[3:46] who are currently running. So, he's out
[3:47] of the hole and he's on his way. The
[3:50] other candidates, two of them at least,
[3:51] stay in the race. Let's take folks
[3:53] through now what it looks like uh as of
[3:56] the pretty much the end of the evening.
[3:58] Starting up in New England where Dole
[4:01] had the support of the very influential
[4:03] popular Governor William Weld.
[4:04] Massachusetts a victory for Dole over
[4:06] Pat Buchanan. Steve Forbes coming in
[4:08] third. In Maine, a lot of the
[4:11] independent voters did go for Dole. Some
[4:13] people thought they might go for
[4:14] Buchanan. Fairly convincing victory over
[4:16] Pat Buchanan there. in Connecticut. Uh
[4:20] Steve Forbes campaign manager said this
[4:21] was the biggest disappointment of the
[4:23] night for them. He thought he actually
[4:24] might be able to take Connecticut at one
[4:25] point, but a very convincing victory for
[4:28] Bob. Don't look at the spread over Pat
[4:30] Buchanan there. Uh Rhode Island was
[4:32] pretty much dole for the taking because
[4:35] Steve Forbes and Buchanan were not on
[4:37] the ballot. Um and Lamar Alexander, you
[4:39] can see Lamar Alexander fading in all
[4:41] sorts of places this evening in Vermont.
[4:44] Um, certain irony here for Richard Luger
[4:47] because he wanted very much to get into
[4:49] the double digits. He managed to in
[4:51] Vermont tonight, 14% of the vote for
[4:53] him, but not enough to continue the
[4:54] campaign. Um, in Maryland, in the
[4:56] Mid-Atlantic states, Bob Dole cut into
[5:00] the vote. Oh, we our machines run a bit
[5:03] a mut there, but in in Maryland there,
[5:05] uh, Dole managed to cut into the
[5:06] Buchanan support there among
[5:08] independents there, and he did very well
[5:09] over Buchanan. Georgia was the big one
[5:11] of the night. That was the big prize.
[5:13] That's where Alexander wanted very much
[5:14] to do. Well, in fact, Alexander, I
[5:16] think, probably found that in Georgia,
[5:17] as much as anything tonight, the
[5:19] decision was made for him. By the way,
[5:21] take a look at the Georgia congressional
[5:23] map here that's popped up. Again, um the
[5:26] delegates in Georgia are awarded on the
[5:28] basis of congressional districts and
[5:31] Dole wins nine. Buchanan wins only that
[5:33] one so far. There's one other to be
[5:36] awarded up in the northwest corner of
[5:37] the country up in Red Clay, Georgia.
[5:39] Buchanan only getting one congressional
[5:42] district in Georgia tonight. Let's move
[5:45] out west now uh where a lot of people
[5:47] told us they were voting their heads
[5:49] rather than their hearts. A lot of
[5:50] people sentimentally wanted Papuch
[5:51] Canada, but they voted their their heads
[5:53] here went with Bob Dole. Many of them
[5:55] telling us that they did so because they
[5:57] believed he could beat Bill Clinton. Uh
[6:00] onwards now to Minnesota where the
[6:02] Republican caucuses continue. This is a
[6:04] question of activism particularly in the
[6:06] party work. Interesting thing about this
[6:09] result so far, not complete yet, is that
[6:12] if anybody was going to get the
[6:13] religious conservatives in this state,
[6:15] it was Pat Buchanan. And in fact, Bob
[6:16] Dole appears to have done quite well
[6:19] there. Let's take a look as the nation
[6:20] at a whole, it is, as Ted said at the
[6:23] beginning, a Bob Dole evening in every
[6:26] respect. Now, with all of these
[6:29] important Tuesdays in March, now this is
[6:31] a race for delegates all the way to the
[6:33] convention in San Diego in August. And
[6:36] Bob Dole, if you look at that right hand
[6:38] column, that's the most important one,
[6:40] is now well ahead of his colleagues. But
[6:42] Forbes, enough delegates to the go to
[6:44] convention. Pat Buchanan intends to stay
[6:46] in the race. Steve Forb said earlier
[6:47] this evening, if you can't stand the
[6:49] heat, get out of the kitchen, but he
[6:50] doesn't mind the heat at all. Now, we
[6:53] have a couple things um about Bob Dole
[6:55] this evening. First, here's a little bit
[6:56] of a speech he made to his supporters uh
[6:59] when victory was assured in Washington.
[7:02] He had uh not taken as much time by any
[7:05] means to appear here as he did earlier
[7:08] that Senator Damato, his national
[7:09] campaign chairman, who had predicted
[7:11] earlier in the evening that Senator Dole
[7:14] was going to have the clean sweep that
[7:17] he in fact did. And he gave Senator Dole
[7:20] did his only television interview this
[7:23] evening to ABC's John Cochran. And here
[7:26] is a portion of that.
[7:28] >> First, let me say congratulations to you
[7:30] both. Thank you very much.
[7:32] >> You must be exhausted.
[7:33] >> Not bad. No, there's something about
[7:35] winning that sort of keeps your
[7:36] adrenaline flowing, but it's been a good
[7:38] day. And uh we're going to just keep on
[7:40] working.
[7:41] >> What was the turning point? South
[7:42] Carolina.
[7:42] >> South Carolina. Get down to Elizabeth's
[7:45] home area, North and South Carolina.
[7:46] This was South Carolina. We had a great
[7:48] organization there. They did a good job
[7:51] and we just sort of won across the board
[7:54] and I think it sent a message to a lot
[7:56] of other states. At this point, are you
[7:58] confident you'll be the Republican
[7:59] nominee?
[8:00] >> Well, I've been saying that in my
[8:01] speeches lately. I will Bob Dole will be
[8:03] the Republican nominee. I feel uh
[8:07] confident, but I I realize that you take
[8:09] one step at a time in this business and
[8:12] and I don't want to be overconfident.
[8:14] >> Steve Forb seemed to get your goat more
[8:15] than
[8:16] >> he did because uh maybe I don't think
[8:18] it's because of all the money he has. I
[8:19] think it's because he'd say Bob Dole
[8:21] voted for the subway or Bob Dole voted
[8:23] for ski lodge in Idaho. Well, you know
[8:26] that I guess there's a grain of truth in
[8:28] some of that, but uh he talked about
[8:31] Washington politicians. I don't think
[8:33] anybody in Washington ever thought
[8:34] anything that negative, but any event,
[8:36] he he's a free country. He's entitled to
[8:39] spend his money.
[8:40] >> He did.
[8:41] >> Do you foresee at some point you're
[8:42] getting together with Pat Buchanan,
[8:44] Lamar Alexander, all these people and
[8:45] trying to get it all together?
[8:46] >> I hope so. And I've always been a trying
[8:49] to bring people together, not my own
[8:51] only my own party, but outside the
[8:53] party. So, I I would hope we could sit
[8:55] down and talk about the future and talk
[8:58] about how do we defeat Bill Clinton. Do
[9:00] >> you get tired of being called the
[9:01] establishment candidate?
[9:03] >> Oh, not really. I mean, I I think uh one
[9:06] thing I saw on the exit poll in South
[9:08] County, 97% of the voters who looked for
[9:10] experience voted for Bob Dole. And I
[9:13] think there has been a change. We're
[9:14] getting the undecided voters. And I
[9:16] think people are saying, "Well, wait a
[9:17] minute. What's the wrong with
[9:18] experience? This guy knows how to get
[9:20] things done. He's able to work with
[9:22] people. Uh he's not going to take us
[9:24] over the edge. So if that's
[9:26] establishment, then I guess I'm
[9:28] establishment.
[9:28] >> Well, I've been following you around.
[9:30] You've run me into the ground. Do you
[9:32] think you've
[9:32] >> I think we've beaten it down. I I 35 to
[9:35] 50 press people on the plane. They're
[9:37] back there sleeping and I'm making phone
[9:39] calls and they rotate and take a couple
[9:40] of days off. I'm like the Energizer
[9:43] Bunny. I keep on going.
[9:44] >> And winning helps too, doesn't it?
[9:46] >> Winning helps.
[9:47] >> Congratulations to you both.
[9:48] >> Thank you very much.
[9:50] Bob Dole is the Energizer Bunny. Ted,
[9:52] that's better than Lazarus. At any rate,
[9:54] standing alone now in Dole headquarters
[9:56] in Washington is ABC's John Cochran. Uh
[9:59] John, what's this what's the strategy
[10:01] now? Where does where does Dole go now
[10:03] on? What does he concentrate?
[10:05] >> Head down to Texas tomorrow to meet with
[10:07] the governor of Texas who is the son of
[10:10] the former president of the United
[10:11] States, George Bush. The governor of
[10:13] Texas will endorse Bob Dole. Mr. Bush
[10:16] Elder will not, however. What he will do
[10:18] is uh give him a how do you do and shake
[10:21] his hands and say I'm glad things are
[10:23] going well for you. George Bush, the
[10:25] former president, wants to officially
[10:27] remain neutral, but he'll let Bob do
[10:29] know he's pleased what's happening.
[10:30] >> Payback time for earlier kindnesses,
[10:32] right?
[10:32] >> Mhm. He thinks that Bob Dole carried a
[10:34] lot of water for him when he was
[10:36] president and that Bob Dole did a good
[10:38] job as majority leader. Then he'll go
[10:40] down to Florida. He's going to spend a
[10:41] lot of time in Florida between now and
[10:43] Super Tuesday. And Peter, what's
[10:44] interesting about that is he expects to
[10:46] win that primary. He's not campaigning
[10:48] so much for that primary. He's already
[10:50] started the general election. He knows
[10:52] that Florida will be a very difficult
[10:53] state when he goes up against Bill
[10:55] Clinton and he's already starting that.
[10:57] >> Okay, John, thanks very much. Ted, just
[10:58] one comment from uh from Steve Forbes
[11:00] here is not falling into line behind Bob
[11:02] Dole. He said tonight there were now
[11:04] three candidates left in the field. It's
[11:06] thinning out and Bob Dole still
[11:07] represents politics as usual.
[11:10] >> Well, numerically he is correct. But as
[11:12] you have noted uh and as we have all
[11:14] noted this evening, this is Bob Dole's
[11:16] night and there's not a great deal for
[11:17] the other candidates to say. But that
[11:20] doesn't mean that they have all given
[11:21] up. When we come back, reports from the
[11:23] political camps of Pat Buchanan, Steve
[11:26] Forbes, and Lamar Alexander.
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[14:10] tonight. As we've said, reports out of
[14:11] the Lamar Alexander campaign indicate
[14:14] that the former Tennessee governor will
[14:15] drop out of the race tomorrow. Tonight
[14:17] in West Palm Beach, Florida, as he was
[14:20] about to board a plane, Alexander,
[14:21] though, would not confirm that story.
[14:24] >> Governor, Governor, comment on the ABC
[14:26] report. You're going home tomorrow and
[14:28] calling it quit.
[14:29] >> I'm going to Clear Water.
[14:31] >> So, you're not going to Nashville.
[14:32] You're not calling it quit.
[14:33] >> I'm I'm I'm I haven't heard the results
[14:36] yet from tonight. I'm going to Clear
[14:37] Water.
[14:38] >> No way. You're going home and calling it
[14:40] >> right now. I'm walking right into
[14:42] several cameras. I can't tell you the
[14:43] airplane later.
[14:44] >> Stay on in Florida tomorrow. But I'm
[14:47] going to do my best to do that. I think
[14:48] Florida's going to be the decisive the
[14:51] decisive
[14:52] we
[14:54] have. I'm looking forward to that.
[14:57] ABC's Katherine Crier, who's been
[14:59] covering the Lamar Alexander campaign,
[15:01] is in Clearwater, Florida. Katherine,
[15:03] these are difficult times for a
[15:04] candidate. Everybody knows he's going to
[15:06] quit. He knows he's going to quit, but
[15:07] he doesn't want to say it. Um,
[15:09] >> what can you tell us?
[15:11] >> That he's going to quit.
[15:12] >> Yeah.
[15:13] >> Uh ABC, as you reported earlier, has
[15:15] confirmed through several sources that
[15:16] the plan is to head up to Nashville
[15:18] tomorrow at the Lowe's Hotel and to make
[15:20] a noon announcement that he is
[15:22] withdrawing from the race. In addition,
[15:24] we have confirmed that media buys have
[15:25] been pulled in Florida and the plans
[15:28] have been cancelled to get on that bus
[15:29] and and progress through campaigning.
[15:31] >> When you say that media buys have been
[15:33] cancelled, that's that's really I mean
[15:36] that that underscores it. That
[15:37] underlines it once you start once you
[15:39] start dumping out on television.
[15:42] Absolutely. In a state like Florida,
[15:43] this is where he was going to make his
[15:44] last stand. He talked about how much
[15:46] money he had raised and was prepared to
[15:48] pour it into Florida as the line in the
[15:50] sand with Bob Dole. With that gone,
[15:52] there's nothing left.
[15:54] >> What was it that that broke the back of
[15:56] the Alexander campaign?
[15:58] >> Well, I think tonight probably did it.
[16:00] Uh the the death rattle, if you will,
[16:02] has been shaking around this campaign
[16:04] since South Carolina. He put a lot of
[16:06] time and energy into that state. He did
[16:07] the same in Georgia. And over the last
[16:09] several weeks, he's been moving that
[16:11] line in the sand. South Carolina was
[16:13] critical. Then all of a sudden, it was
[16:14] Georgia. Then it was the final stand in
[16:17] Florida. But when the numbers started
[16:18] coming in tonight, that's just not
[16:20] something that a candidate can can look
[16:22] at and proceed on.
[16:24] >> Katherine Crier, thank you. Despite his
[16:25] poor showing tonight, Steve Forb sounded
[16:27] like a candidate who is not about to
[16:29] quit, saying Republicans have three
[16:31] choices by Senator Dole, which is
[16:34] essentially the status quo. A second
[16:37] choice is symbolized by Mr. Buchanan of
[16:40] an America that turns inward and
[16:42] eventually on each other in the name of
[16:44] cultural purity. There's a third way to
[16:47] go, which is the vision that I'm
[16:49] presenting to the voters of a new
[16:50] America. Really, the old America,
[16:53] self-confident,
[16:55] forward-looking, outwardlooking, not
[16:58] fearing the world, not fearing the
[17:00] future, but leading the world.
[17:02] >> ABC's Dean Reynolds is covering the
[17:04] Forbes campaign for ABC News tonight in
[17:07] Albany. Dean, um, here's a man who has
[17:09] had nothing but bad results for the last
[17:12] couple of weeks, and yet he keeps on
[17:13] going. Why? Well, and he was here just a
[17:16] couple of minutes ago telling us he
[17:18] didn't think this performance was all
[17:19] that lackluster, although his standard
[17:21] of measurement is a bit mystifying. Uh,
[17:24] I think he believes now that there's a
[17:26] certain clarity in the race. Uh, it's
[17:28] Buchanan, Dole, and Forbes. He believes
[17:31] that Buchanan has maxed out, if you
[17:33] will, at 30% or less. He thinks that
[17:37] when people get a shot at him and Dole
[17:40] in a race uh head-to-head that people
[17:43] will begin to take a closer look at uh
[17:45] at Mr. Forbes. Now, I should point out
[17:48] that that is his view and there is a
[17:51] debate within his campaign about the
[17:53] wisdom of carrying on much longer at the
[17:56] risk of crippling Senator Dole in a race
[17:58] against Bill Clinton.
[17:59] >> But at the moment, no indication from
[18:01] the candidate.
[18:02] >> None whatsoever. He seems to actually be
[18:05] getting better at this, to be enjoying
[18:07] it, and uh there is no indication at all
[18:11] that he is tiring of it. In fact, he
[18:13] intends to uh carry on into Texas and
[18:16] Florida and uh his top aids, though some
[18:20] have been used.
[18:22] >> Dean, I'm afraid we're we're losing you
[18:24] a little bit there, but we uh we only
[18:26] have a couple of minutes left and I need
[18:28] to talk to ABC's Michelle Norris, who is
[18:30] covering the Buchanan campaign. Uh he
[18:32] and she are in Miami tonight. Michelle,
[18:35] we didn't hear anything from Pat
[18:36] Buchanan today.
[18:38] >> Well, he spoke on the plane on the way
[18:39] here and the plane will be arriving in
[18:41] just a few minutes. So, we all look
[18:42] forward to knowing what he had to say.
[18:44] This has been a bad day for Pat
[18:46] Buchanan. His so-called revolution fell
[18:49] flat and that broad-based army of
[18:51] peasants he was supposed to be leading
[18:53] seem to have put their pitch pitchforks
[18:55] down to back an establishment candidate.
[18:57] Nonetheless, he says he's in this to the
[18:59] end, even if it means chasing Bob Dole
[19:01] all the way to the convention. So, the
[19:03] question now is what role will he play?
[19:05] He's he's become the problem child of
[19:08] the Republican party. And if he amasses
[19:10] enough delegates, he'll have a certain
[19:11] amount of currency going into the into
[19:13] the convention, and he may be able to
[19:15] make some demands about a speech at the
[19:17] convention regarding the abortion plank
[19:19] within the Republican platform and
[19:21] concerning the selection of a
[19:22] conservative uh vice president. in terms
[19:25] of money, organization, he's got to pick
[19:27] his spots very carefully. What would you
[19:29] what would you guess are going to be the
[19:31] the major focuses of the Buchanan
[19:34] campaign over the next couple of couple
[19:36] of weeks?
[19:37] >> Uh in two words, the South, he's going
[19:39] to be focusing on Florida, Tennessee,
[19:42] Oklahoma, areas where he feel his feels
[19:45] his protectionist trade message will do
[19:47] very well, where his social
[19:48] conservatism, uh what he calls the
[19:50] conservatism of the heart, will play
[19:52] very well. But as you say, he does not
[19:54] have the money or the organization. And
[19:56] for a campaign like that, momentum is
[19:57] key and he's lost that tonight.
[19:58] >> Michelle, thank you. Pat Buchanan had
[20:01] set his sights on Georgia as the place
[20:03] where he would break the dull momentum.
[20:05] Jim Wooten is standing by in Marietta,
[20:07] Georgia. Jim, it didn't happen. But it
[20:09] but he came closer in Georgia than
[20:11] anywhere else.
[20:12] >> Uh yes, because there is a natural
[20:14] constituency for Buchanan. But I I
[20:17] expect that Mr. Buchanan is feeling a
[20:19] bit of Dixie Dja Vu tonight. you know,
[20:21] four years ago in 1992, he came marching
[20:24] through Georgia. Uh, and four years
[20:27] later, he comes back in again with his
[20:29] sort of tailormade uh message, maverick
[20:32] message to angry white southern males
[20:34] and the Bible belt Christian
[20:36] conservatives, and it still didn't work.
[20:38] He still didn't crack the southern code.
[20:40] He pulled out all the stops. He pushed
[20:42] all the buttons that he knew how to
[20:43] push. He reminded voters here of his
[20:46] conservative ancestors who fought in the
[20:48] Civil War. He equated uh he equated
[20:51] Dixie to we shall overcome. He even
[20:53] developed a bit of a draw between
[20:55] Arizona and here and it still didn't
[20:58] work. So in 1996 as in 1992, Buchanan
[21:02] winds up looking at a winner in Georgia
[21:04] who is of the establishment wing of the
[21:06] party. I expect he's very disappointed.
[21:09] >> Jim, very quickly, there is absolutely
[21:10] no indication though that that Pat
[21:13] Buchanan is going to pull out of this
[21:14] thing anytime soon.
[21:16] >> Not that not that any of us know about.
[21:17] He uh he lives off the land. He doesn't
[21:20] require as much money as a candidate
[21:21] like Bob Dole or any of the others might
[21:24] require. Uh he doesn't have a great deal
[21:26] of money, but uh as Michelle has pointed
[21:29] out, he does run a sort of minimalist
[21:31] campaign and he can survive for quite
[21:34] some time. I expect that one of the
[21:36] things that really disappoints Phil
[21:38] disappoints Pat Buchanan is that after
[21:40] he more or less single-handedly put Phil
[21:42] Graham out of the race, he did not fill
[21:44] that vacuum. Bob Dole did. Jim, thank
[21:48] you. When we come back, Peter Jennings
[21:50] and ABC's Lynn Sher on the meaning of
[21:52] tonight's primary results.
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[24:55] voters's minds and figure out why they
[24:56] voted like they did in various parts of
[24:58] the country, just a couple of quick more
[24:59] notes about Lamar Alexander's mind. One
[25:03] of his campaign officials tells our
[25:05] Dennis O'Brien, who's been with him from
[25:07] the outset, that he's probably going to
[25:09] endorse Dole in the next couple of days.
[25:11] And tomorrow afternoon, after he makes
[25:14] this departure announcement from the
[25:16] campaign, he is going to attend the
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[25:25] Now, what were the strengths and
[25:27] weaknesses of the candidate of the hour,
[25:29] Bob Dole? We go to Lynn Sher who's been
[25:31] looking at the exit polls all day long.
[25:32] Lynn,
[25:33] >> Peter, Bob Dole won partly on the issues
[25:36] that he campaigned on, his ability to
[25:38] beat Bill Clinton and his experience in
[25:40] government. Now, those were not the top
[25:42] issues cited by voters today. In fact,
[25:44] those two issues tied for number three.
[25:46] But Bob Dole uh won so overwhelmingly
[25:49] among those who cited them that it made
[25:51] a very large difference. Of course, the
[25:53] big prize tonight was Georgia, and in
[25:55] fact, it was the most closely contested
[25:57] of the states. But even there, Senator
[25:59] Dole actually won a group that Pat
[26:02] Buchanan seemed to be identified with,
[26:04] the independent voters. Um, those of
[26:06] course the ones who tend to be very
[26:08] anti-establishment.
[26:09] Well, more good news for Bob Dole in
[26:12] Georgia and elsewhere. Pap Buchanan was
[26:15] simply seen as too extreme in his
[26:17] political views across the country.
[26:20] In Georgia, 51% said he was too extreme.
[26:24] And it gets worse from there. In
[26:26] Colorado, 59% said he was too extreme.
[26:29] In Connecticut, 65%.
[26:32] And even in groups that were claimed by
[26:34] Pat Buchanan, Bob Dole was in fact
[26:36] competitive. Take those who called
[26:38] themselves members of the religious
[26:40] right. Incidentally, 28% said that
[26:42] today. Pat Buchanan got 43% of the vote.
[26:45] He won the category. But Bob Dole got
[26:48] 36% and that is very competitive. In
[26:51] addition, voters rejected Pat Buchanan
[26:54] on issues that he campaigned hard on.
[26:57] Limiting foreign trade, voters said that
[26:59] they thought foreign trade actually
[27:01] created jobs. It didn't steal them. An
[27:03] anti-abortion plank in the party
[27:05] platform. Most Republicans said no, they
[27:07] didn't want it. Papuchanan was right
[27:10] that the number one issue was the
[27:12] economy and jobs. But once again, take a
[27:15] look at how that vote split. Of those
[27:17] who said it was the most important
[27:18] issue, 27% for Pat Buchanan, but 47% for
[27:24] Bob Dole. Still, Bob Dole has problems
[27:27] of his own. While his own age, which of
[27:30] course is 72, does not seem to have hurt
[27:32] him, the age of his constituents might.
[27:35] He wins big among those who are 65 and
[27:38] over, 63% of their vote. But of those
[27:41] who are under 65, he gets only 41%. That
[27:44] latter is a much larger group. and
[27:46] Peter, of course, Senator Dole would
[27:47] like to have much more of their support.
[27:49] >> Lyn, we heard Dean Reynolds say that
[27:51] Steve Forbes hadn't think thought it was
[27:52] a lackluster performance, and we haven't
[27:54] seen Alexander go anywhere at all. Tell
[27:57] us what the voters's judgment has been
[27:58] on both of these issues.
[28:00] >> Well, what's interesting about Steve
[28:01] Forbes, of course, his big issue was the
[28:03] flat tax. 51% of the voters today said
[28:05] that they wanted a flat tax, but guess
[28:08] what? Steve Forbes finished third among
[28:10] them. So, he just was not seen as the
[28:12] guy to get the job done. As for Lamar
[28:14] Alexander, 63% of the people who voted
[28:17] for Lamar Alexander today said they
[28:19] would have preferred if someone else
[28:21] were running. That incidentally is
[28:23] something that happened straight across
[28:24] the board. There is not strong support
[28:26] for any of these candidates. As a matter
[28:28] of fact, 43% of Bob Dole's own voters
[28:32] said they wish there had been another
[28:34] candidate running.
[28:34] >> Okay. Yeah. Thanks very much. That's
[28:36] very interesting because that reflects
[28:37] very much what our own reporters found
[28:39] at polling stations all across the
[28:41] country. People were just not all that
[28:42] happy about their vote. And Ted, for Bob
[28:45] Dole, as you know as well as anybody
[28:47] else, that's a real problem as he moves
[28:48] out from here.
[28:49] >> Indeed. When we come back, we will be
[28:51] joined by Night Line's Jeff Greenfield,
[28:53] who will take a look at all of that.
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