Larry King Live (CNN) - 2006-11-08 (midterm elections) - 2 of 2

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[3:12] We now welcome, always pleasantly

[3:14] welcome, Bill Maher, one of the truly

[3:16] terrific performers, the host of HBO's

[3:18] Real Time with Bill Maher. That's Friday

[3:20] nights at 11:00. He'll be performing at

[3:22] the Comedy Festival at the Coliseum at

[3:24] Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas, November

[3:27] 16th. That's Thursday, November 16th.

[3:29] He'll also be part of Comic Relief,

[3:31] which airs live on HBO on November 18th.

[3:34] What happens on Friday the 17th? I go

[3:36] back and do the last show of my season.

[3:39] >> So you go to Vegas, do the 16th. I stand

[3:41] up, [clears throat]

[3:42] >> then right back,

[3:43] >> do HBO,

[3:44] >> then go back on the 18th.

[3:45] >> With the way you work so carefully and

[3:46] change material, isn't that going to be

[3:48] a pretty tough three days?

[3:49] >> I work on the plane, Larry.

[3:51] >> That's a 35minute flight bill.

[3:53] [laughter]

[3:54] >> I know that's how quick I am.

[3:56] >> Okay, Rossville going. What do you

[3:57] think?

[3:58] >> Well, I think everyone I heard Ariana

[4:00] say and we all agree. I think it's about

[4:02] time. Even the Republicans were saying

[4:04] that. Um, but we'll see. I mean, you

[4:07] know, the Democrats still are not really

[4:10] saying what I would like to hear about

[4:12] Iraq because they're still on this page

[4:15] of, okay, we we redeploy to bases and we

[4:19] only come out like when there's trouble.

[4:21] Is that the new plan? But that is sort

[4:23] of what we're doing now. And I don't

[4:24] >> What do you want to do?

[4:25] >> Got to get out of there.

[4:27] >> Has anyone ever been in a bad

[4:28] relationship in this administration? Do

[4:30] they understand that when it goes this

[4:32] bad, there's nothing you can do? Uh we

[4:34] did an editorial a couple of weeks ago

[4:36] about think tanks because you know it's

[4:38] the think tanks that got us into this

[4:39] war that's who they listen to the

[4:41] neocons all these people who made all

[4:43] these predictions and every one of the

[4:45] predictions and I could go down the list

[4:47] from WMDs to will be greeted as

[4:49] liberators to the Iraqi oil will pay for

[4:52] the war every is over

[4:54] >> ex in its last throws every one of them

[4:57] dead wrong and these are the people who

[4:59] are now saying well if we pull out of

[5:01] Iraq a b and c will

[5:05] Isn't your prediction quota up? How

[5:09] about we just leave Iraq and we'll see

[5:11] what happens? Because I think what we've

[5:13] learned from the Muslim world is it's

[5:15] Allah's will. You know what? What's

[5:17] going to happen in Iraq is going to

[5:19] happen whether we stay or whether we go.

[5:21] These people, we started this cockfight

[5:23] between them. Saddam had a lid on it. We

[5:27] got back in there and retribalized these

[5:29] people. And now the cockfight has

[5:31] started. It's not going to end until

[5:33] they settle it between themselves. And

[5:35] the middle, the people who we went in

[5:37] there to save, the people who were going

[5:39] to have a normal country, the ones they

[5:41] said were going to throw flowers at us,

[5:43] none of those are left. They've all been

[5:44] killed or they left. There's been a mass

[5:47] exodus or they're ethnically dividing

[5:50] themselves. There's a lot of self-ethnic

[5:52] cleansing going on. We went in there to

[5:53] get rid of the snakes in the pit. The

[5:55] only people left in the pit are the

[5:57] snakes and us. I it therefore it doesn't

[6:00] matter who replaces R with Gates or

[6:02] anyone.

[6:03] >> Well, I mean I'd like

[6:04] >> she said the policy is the same no

[6:06] matter who.

[6:06] >> I'd like a smooth exit for our brave

[6:08] troops, but the important thing is to

[6:11] get the troops out of there. When Bush

[6:13] keeps talking about supporting the

[6:14] troops, it's like what world are we

[6:15] living in? The way to support the troops

[6:18] is to remove them from the pointless

[6:20] nightmare you put them in, not to stop

[6:22] the Dixie Chicks or John Ky from telling

[6:24] a joke about them.

[6:27] Uh therefore, you do not expect based on

[6:29] what the Democrats are saying much

[6:31] change in the next two years.

[6:32] >> Oh, I do. I hope. But it's certainly not

[6:34] their call. They can't force the

[6:36] president to remove the troops. They

[6:39] can't force the defense

[6:40] >> to stop the funding.

[6:41] >> But they're not going to do that because

[6:43] they know they would never win another

[6:44] election because they're afraid of a 30

[6:46] secondond attack ad that says they took

[6:48] money away from the troops. See, it's

[6:51] all about supporting the troops.

[6:52] >> What about last night? What did you make

[6:54] of last night? No Democratic incumbent

[6:57] lost in any race.

[6:59] >> Yeah. Well, I mean, first of all, it was

[7:00] nice to win one. I felt like black

[7:03] people at the OJ Simpson trial. Finally,

[7:06] whether it was just or not, we won one.

[7:08] Uh, and when I say we, I'm not even a

[7:10] Democrat. I just mean people of common

[7:11] sense. And that's who this really was a

[7:13] victory for. And I think it it was

[7:16] great. You know, it it's hopeful to see

[7:18] that America can change course. all that

[7:22] stuff about gerrymandering and, you

[7:24] know, the Republican advantage in money

[7:26] and get out the vote. Well, it just

[7:29] shows I would never accuse the American

[7:31] people of being quick, but they do catch

[7:33] on eventually and they can self-correct

[7:36] and they're not as conservative. I

[7:38] always say this as people think they

[7:40] are. That was Carl Ro's great genius. He

[7:42] convinced the Democrats that America was

[7:45] really so far to the right that even

[7:46] they had to run so far to the right that

[7:49] people would of course people were never

[7:51] going to vote for these so-called

[7:53] Hillary centrist, you know, Republican

[7:56] light Democrats, John Kerry and his Gus

[7:58] goose hunting outfit. Of course, they

[8:01] always lost those elections. Now,

[8:02] Democrats maybe have have found their

[8:05] feet again.

[8:06] >> What surprised you? um very little

[8:09] because I really did think it was going

[8:11] to be a big rep a big Democrat victory.

[8:15] Um I thought people had to have been fed

[8:18] up with what was going on. What

[8:20] Democrats have to take away from this

[8:22] and I think they already have learned

[8:23] this lesson is that it wasn't really a

[8:25] victory for you. It reminded me of the

[8:27] World Series. The the St. Louis

[8:29] Cardinals didn't really win. Uh the

[8:31] Detroit Tigers lost it. Every game I

[8:33] tuned in, the Tigers were throwing the

[8:34] ball over the infield, over people's

[8:36] heads. the Cardinals just stood on the

[8:39] field and won. That's sort of where the

[8:41] Democrats are. Um, let's see if you can

[8:44] win an election against a party that

[8:46] hasn't disgraced itself so horribly in

[8:49] every single way a party could disgrace

[8:51] itself.

[8:51] >> What did you make of the press

[8:52] conference this morning?

[8:54] >> It's interesting. Bush, who normally

[8:57] sounds like he cannot string a sentence

[8:59] together,

[9:01] but when he's angry, and you could tell

[9:03] he was angry, and when he's talking

[9:05] about the one subject where he is smart

[9:07] on, hard ball politics, he's actually

[9:10] quite articulate, he actually should be

[9:12] Carl Roe. He should never have been

[9:14] president. That's what he would do

[9:16] better. And and you could see he was mad

[9:17] at Carl Rove. And he should be because

[9:19] Carl Rove had has led this Republican

[9:22] party down a hole here. I think

[9:23] >> he's led him to victories, though. give

[9:25] them some credit.

[9:26] >> Yeah, but look where they are now. They

[9:28] lost every part of the country except

[9:30] the South. Really, the Republican party

[9:32] now is the old Confederacy. And this was

[9:35] Carl Ro's method. See, Carl Ro went

[9:37] against what everybody always did in

[9:38] politics was to run toward the center.

[9:40] Carl Rove said, "No, let's go to the

[9:43] real far right base." And that's where

[9:45] he ran and that's all he's got left now.

[9:48] Everybody else left him. All the

[9:49] independents are gone. Even evangelicals

[9:52] voted in numbers for Democrats. Not not

[9:55] the majority,

[9:56] >> but 25% though. I think

[9:57] >> that's a lot more than they used to.

[9:59] >> We [snorts] have an email question from

[10:01] Carol in Honolulu. Do you think it's a

[10:03] coincidence that the Dow Jones reached

[10:05] record highs and gas prices went down

[10:07] right around election day?

[10:09] >> Not really. I don't think anything is a

[10:11] coincidence. And I'm always amused when

[10:13] President Bush talks about something on

[10:16] the other side that benefits the

[10:18] Democrats and he goes, "You know, the

[10:20] timing of this is very interesting."

[10:22] Yeah, I think it was interesting timing

[10:24] that Saddam Hussein was sentenced to

[10:26] death two days before the election. But

[10:28] you see, none of those old Republican

[10:30] tricks worked this time. John Kerry's

[10:32] botched joke had no traction. The people

[10:36] shrugged when Saddam was going to be

[10:38] executed because they knew he was never

[10:39] a threat to us in the first place. All

[10:41] that stuff went away.

[10:43] >> What do you make of the Mark Foley

[10:44] scenario? That scenario and the fact

[10:47] that with his name on the ballot, the

[10:49] candidate running in his place lost.

[10:53] >> Well, isn't that what we expected? I

[10:55] mean,

[10:56] >> that's pretty close. That's a big

[10:58] Republican district.

[11:00] >> Yeah, but he was hitting on [laughter]

[11:03] 16year-old boys. You know, when you when

[11:05] you when you go to your base and one of

[11:08] your big calling guards at the base is

[11:10] that kissing boys is one of the worst

[11:12] things that could ever happen to America

[11:14] and then lots of people in your party uh

[11:17] turn out to be gay. You know, I'm sure a

[11:19] lot of the base wanted to vote a

[11:20] straight Republican ticket. They

[11:22] couldn't find a straight Republican.

[11:24] >> Ladies and germs.

[11:25] >> Well, speaking of that, what do you make

[11:27] of of uh Ted Haggard? [laughter]

[11:30] >> I'm doing a bit of a editorial on him

[11:32] this week. Uh, so I've been thinking

[11:34] about him a lot. Uh, not in that way,

[11:37] but uh, and if folks don't know who Ted

[11:39] Hagert is, he is the president of the

[11:41] American Evangelical Council. He is a

[11:44] pretty big fish in the evangelical

[11:46] movement in charge of 45,000 churches

[11:49] and 30

[11:50] >> talks to the White House every Monday.

[11:51] >> Talks to the White House every usually

[11:53] about gay bashing. Well, I mean,

[11:55] [clears throat] not to put too fine a

[11:57] point on it, but I do think that when a

[12:00] party is um so divided against itself,

[12:05] eventually that comes to the four. It's

[12:07] so ironic. Republicans, the

[12:08] anti-abortion party, always trying to

[12:11] kill something inside of themselves. And

[12:14] Frank Rich wrote about this a couple of

[12:15] weeks ago. He said, "Yes, we've heard

[12:17] about Mark Foley, and then every week it

[12:19] s seemed another congressman was outed."

[12:22] But he said that's just the beginning of

[12:25] it. A lot of the chiefs of staff, the

[12:28] people who really run the underpinnings

[12:30] of the Republican party are gay. I don't

[12:34] want to mention names, but I will Friday

[12:35] night. But

[12:36] >> you will Friday night.

[12:37] >> Well, there's a couple of big people who

[12:39] I think everyone in Washington knows who

[12:41] run the Republican.

[12:42] >> You will name them.

[12:43] >> Well, I I wouldn't be the first. I'd get

[12:46] sued if I was the first.

[12:47] >> The question is,

[12:48] >> maybe you don't go to the same bath

[12:49] house I do, Larry. Why would a someone

[12:51] who is gay take public anti-gay

[12:54] positions? Why would you why would you

[12:56] do that?

[12:58] >> Because Larry, hating yourself is the

[13:00] greatest love of all.

[13:02] >> We're going to [laughter]

[13:05] self-loathing.

[13:06] >> What a great way to close out this

[13:07] segment. You know, it's poignant. We'll

[13:10] be right back. [laughter]

[13:12] >> The only thing that can stop Democrats

[13:14] now is a last minute joke from John

[13:16] Kerry.

[13:19] >> [applause]

[13:19] >> That's the only thing.

[13:21] >> So Joe Lieberman opened up an Ark of the

[13:24] Covenant can of whoopass on his foes

[13:27] having lost the primary. Lieberman wins

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[16:32] Give us a little bit more of that Dan

[16:33] Rather. You know what I'm saying? A

[16:34] little bit more of that homespun kind of

[16:38] [laughter]

[16:39] >> how. So,

[16:41] >> for example, Hillary Clinton, uh, we

[16:43] knew she was going to win in a

[16:44] landslide, but, uh, I mean, how would

[16:46] you, Dan, rather, you know, describe the

[16:49] largeness of her victory? It

[16:51] >> it was a healthy margin. [laughter]

[16:59] [laughter]

[17:03] How about she ran away with it like a

[17:05] hobo with a sweet potato pie?

[17:10] That was cute. Now, Bill Maher is our

[17:13] guest. Don't forget the night of

[17:14] November 16th at Caesar's Palace in Las

[17:18] Vegas, Bill Maher will be performing.

[17:19] You can get tickets through Ticatron and

[17:22] of course through

[17:22] >> my full act, my stand back where I bring

[17:25] it.

[17:27] Bringing it on.

[17:27] >> Bring you've never seen him in. It's one

[17:30] of the great standup artists. You will

[17:32] have a great time.

[17:33] >> Bring a split for your side. [snorts]

[17:36] Where does this poise the Democrats now

[17:38] in their race for the presidency? Who

[17:39] forges ahead?

[17:42] >> I don't know who, but I I do think um

[17:45] they're well positioned because I think

[17:48] this was a re-evaluation on the part of

[17:51] the country uh about conservativism in

[17:54] general. I think people made the

[17:56] decision that it has failed them. I

[17:58] mean, if you look at what happened first

[18:00] under Reagan, what did they really

[18:02] accomplish? Um, the fall of the Soviet

[18:05] Union, which they take credit for, which

[18:06] but which we all know was a bipartisan

[18:10] endeavor that took 50 years. Reagan

[18:12] played his part, played it well in the

[18:14] third act.

[18:15] >> It did.

[18:16] >> Okay. But it wasn't just him. And it

[18:18] wasn't just the 80s. The Soviet Union

[18:21] was going to fall. Uh maybe he

[18:23] precipitated it by a few years, but that

[18:25] was something that was inevitable. He

[18:27] ran up the debt and so did George Bush.

[18:29] Somehow the people, these conservatives

[18:31] who say that they're adults, this is the

[18:34] CEO administrations, well, they didn't

[18:37] act very much like efficient CEOs in

[18:39] Iraq or Katrina. They ran up the debt.

[18:41] They don't seem to be who they say they

[18:43] are. And if I think when people look

[18:44] back at what has been accomplished in

[18:46] America, Social Security, Medicare,

[18:48] civil rights, it has been under

[18:50] Democratic progressive administrations.

[18:52] >> If the Democrats are prime for a

[18:54] victory, who might lead them? Um, I

[18:57] don't think this I don't think Bush's

[18:59] um, presidency is good for Barack Obama

[19:02] because I think people are going to say,

[19:04] "Well, we want someone with some

[19:05] experience. We've learned our lesson

[19:08] about putting people in office who are a

[19:10] little too young and a little too green

[19:13] for the job." Not that I'm saying Obama

[19:15] is, but you know, you know, I think that

[19:18] that worked against Harold Ford in

[19:20] Tennessee. Uh, he was that's the one

[19:22] that the Democrats didn't win last

[19:24] night. And of course, it also is the the

[19:26] one that had a really dirty ad. That was

[19:29] the Call Me Harold ad. And I think the

[19:31] message to the Republicans is dirty

[19:33] works. But that's the message they like.

[19:35] >> Are we leading here to Hillary?

[19:37] >> Well, I think she's certainly going to

[19:39] run. I certainly think she's going to be

[19:41] a formidable

[19:43] presence to beat. Uh I've said to you

[19:46] before on this show, I don't think she's

[19:48] the right candidate because I think

[19:50] she's always trying to tack toward the

[19:53] center. And as I keep saying, I think

[19:55] America is a lot more liberal than

[19:57] people realize. Um, what what is

[20:00] liberal? By the way, Nancy Pelosi, you

[20:02] know, another Republican trick that

[20:04] didn't work. Nancy Pelosi, they tried to

[20:06] scare people. She's from ah, SAN

[20:09] FRANCISCO. YOU KNOW, like San Francisco

[20:10] is Devil's Island. Hello, it's part of

[20:13] America. It's actually a rich city. They

[20:15] make a lot of money. It's part of

[20:16] Silicon Valley. Are the Republicans

[20:18] against money now? I don't think so. But

[20:21] uh you know, we don't really have a left

[20:23] wing in America anymore. Nancy Pelosi

[20:25] isn't to the left. She's she's left

[20:28] middle. She's not for socialized

[20:31] medicine or, you know, legalizing drugs.

[20:33] She was the first person to criticize

[20:35] Hugo Chavez when he made that speech

[20:38] against Bush. Um the only people who are

[20:41] really on the left left are like Ralph

[20:43] Nater and the new senator from Vermont,

[20:45] Bernie Sanders, Dennis Kusunich. But uh

[20:49] we really don't have a left wing.

[20:51] >> Let's take a call for Bill Maher, Miami.

[20:53] Hello.

[20:54] >> Yes. Hi uh Bill, I'm enjoying your

[20:56] comments. My question is now that the

[20:59] election is over and the Democrats have

[21:02] a mandate. Who do you think actually has

[21:05] the courage in the Democratic party to

[21:07] step up and articulate exactly what they

[21:10] stand for, what they're going to do,

[21:12] what they want to see? Because there's a

[21:14] risk in that person doing that. But you

[21:17] know, we're sick of all of the

[21:18] demonizing terminology. Now is the time

[21:21] now that we the Democrats have won.

[21:23] >> You mean who's who's going to take the

[21:24] mantle? Who's

[21:25] >> who's going to step up and actually say

[21:27] what they're going to do?

[21:29] >> I don't know. But I would correct the

[21:31] nice lady to begin with in saying they

[21:33] don't have a mandate. Once again, they

[21:36] didn't win this election. The

[21:37] Republicans lost this election. And when

[21:40] you're a party that's not in power,

[21:41] you're not supposed to have someone

[21:42] who's the head unless you have a say

[21:45] Democratic candidate and ain't going to

[21:46] be Carrie,

[21:47] >> right?

[21:48] >> No. Uh I don't know. But that's that's a

[21:51] healthy problem to have to see who has

[21:53] the guts to step forward. Um what I

[21:56] would like to see the Democrats do is

[21:58] what the Republicans did um in the late

[22:03] 60s7s when Reagan was first running and

[22:06] so forth. Barry Goldwater when they had

[22:08] the guts to say here's where I stand and

[22:11] I will just stay by my principles and

[22:13] the people will eventually come to me

[22:15] and they did and I think if the

[22:17] Democrats would do that it would be an

[22:18] easier journey for the people because I

[22:20] think they're already closer.

[22:21] >> Was the Allen web race the most

[22:23] interesting to you?

[22:25] >> It is absolutely because I think George

[22:28] Allen uh who looks like he is going to

[22:30] go down and I really hope he does

[22:31] because he's not a bright man. uh he's

[22:34] very much like President Bush and if he

[22:36] goes down I think it's a s it's it's

[22:38] symbolic to me anyway uh that that type

[22:41] of politics may have seen its better

[22:43] days. The politics of an empty suit who

[22:46] we get to run because he's the the son

[22:49] of somebody famous and he's a guy we'd

[22:51] like to have a beer with and he's from

[22:53] the South and he's got crap on his shoes

[22:55] and he wears a cowboy hat. you know, all

[22:58] that stuff that was charming about

[22:59] George Bush uh is not so charming

[23:02] anymore. And George Allen to me

[23:04] represented that sort of politics. He

[23:06] thought he was going to be the next

[23:08] George Bush.

[23:09] We'll take a break and we'll be back

[23:11] with more more emails and more phone

[23:12] calls for Bill Maher. Don't go away.

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[26:49] Say, "Why all the glum faces?" Actually,

[26:52] I thought we were going to do fine

[26:53] yesterday.

[26:55] Are you bringing this up so everybody

[26:56] else gets kind of jealous? Uh, if you

[26:59] look at race by race, it was close. The

[27:01] cumulative effect, however, was not too

[27:03] close. It was a thumping. So, this isn't

[27:06] my first rodeo.

[27:08] >> Think I'm nuts.

[27:11] >> The elections were close. The cumulative

[27:13] effect.

[27:15] >> Is it is it thumping? [music]

[27:16] >> Thumping.

[27:16] >> And [laughter]

[27:21] is he funny? No, but at least he doesn't

[27:25] try to be too funny, which is John K's

[27:29] problem. And you know, I think it's a

[27:30] shame that somebody who I feel would be

[27:32] a good president, John Kerry, um, now a

[27:35] lot of people saying that he's toast

[27:38] because Alec Baldwin said it on my show

[27:40] the other night, he said, you know, part

[27:42] of the entry fee to get into this race

[27:44] to be president is you got to be able to

[27:47] stay away from the verbal landmines.

[27:50] And why would anyone though think that

[27:53] he'd be against the troops since he went

[27:55] twice himself?

[27:57] >> Why why did they vote in 2004 on that

[28:00] basis? Why was Carl Rove and his

[28:02] Swiftboat proxies able to convince

[28:05] America, at least some of America,

[28:07] enough of America, that the true war

[28:10] hero was actually a coward or or a

[28:13] denigrator of the troops and the draft

[28:15] dodger? And yes, as I've said on the

[28:17] show before, Bush is a draft dodger.

[28:19] Anyone who Vietnam era figured out a way

[28:22] not to go to Vietnam, draft, dodge the

[28:25] war. How come he was the hero? Well, you

[28:28] know, you can fool some of the people

[28:29] some of the time. You can't do it

[28:30] forever.

[28:32] >> But John Kerry should have that was

[28:35] >> he should have called him out. Exactly.

[28:37] David Mamemoth wrote a great article

[28:39] about that. He said, you know, it's like

[28:40] poker. You got to raise the bet because

[28:43] if you sit at the table and just slowly

[28:45] ante without ever raising, you will ante

[28:48] away your hand your your pot until you

[28:50] have nothing left. And that's what the

[28:52] Democrats did. If John Kerry had called

[28:54] him out and um you know when I talk to

[28:57] people who are not political junkies

[28:59] like us who just follow it briefly,

[29:01] that's what I hear basically is, hey, if

[29:04] John Ky couldn't have stood up to Bush,

[29:06] how's he going to stand up to the

[29:07] terrorists? It's real basic, but that's

[29:10] the kind of stuff that wins elections or

[29:11] loses it.

[29:12] >> We have another email from Terry in

[29:14] Smyrna, Tennessee. How do we get the

[29:16] cost of running for office back to

[29:18] manageable levels so you don't have to

[29:20] be rich to run?

[29:23] >> The cost of running for office. Oh, get

[29:26] it. Get stop TV ads. That's the only

[29:29] way. How

[29:30] >> how you going to do that?

[29:32] >> Well, you could. England does it. Lots

[29:33] of countries do it. Make it publicly

[29:35] financed. just say this is too important

[29:38] to sell a candidate like we do soap and

[29:40] dog food and have it public. That would

[29:43] solve so many problems. And the people

[29:44] who would like that the most are the

[29:46] people in office. They're the ones who

[29:48] will tell you they have to spend all

[29:49] their time raising money. That's why

[29:52] nothing gets done in Washington. It's

[29:53] one of the reasons because they only

[29:55] work Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,

[29:56] Monday and Friday got to raise money.

[29:57] They go to fundraisers all the time and

[30:00] they can't get anything done.

[30:02] But media, people who outrun the media

[30:05] wouldn't like that.

[30:06] >> No. But that's also why you don't see a

[30:09] lot of local coverage because they want

[30:12] you to pay for those ads, the local

[30:13] media. If they give the coverage for

[30:15] free, then there's no reason, no

[30:18] motivation for you to buy airtime and

[30:21] say your piece. So, the situation works

[30:24] against everything that is good and

[30:26] democratic the way we have it. And uh

[30:29] and it's ironic that you know in in

[30:31] television in advertising you can lie

[30:33] about nothing but a candidate.

[30:36] Liststerine cannot say it you know kills

[30:38] the germs that cause bad breath but it

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[30:41] advertising. Get sued for that. But you

[30:44] know you can say Harold Ford wants to

[30:46] jump on white women at the Playboy

[30:48] Mansion and that's okay.

[30:49] >> We'll be back with more of Bill Maher

[30:51] right after this.

[30:53] >> I am America.

[30:55] This is the mouth of the people. In

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[31:01] Tonight, the eastern part of our great

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[31:16] I hesitate to ask this. What's happening

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[34:25] These activist judges, they're at it

[34:27] again. [laughter]

[34:29] The New Jersey Supreme Court says

[34:31] homosexuals actually have the same civil

[34:34] rights as straight people, which means

[34:35] they can marry. See, this is the

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[34:48] Fort Campbell, Kentucky for Bill Maher.

[34:50] You'll see him on the 16th at Caesar's

[34:54] Palace in Vegas. Hello.

[34:55] >> If you're lucky.

[34:56] >> Hello.

[34:58] Fort Campbell, are you there?

[35:02] >> Fort Campbell is not there.

[35:03] >> Yeah, Fort Campbell.

[35:04] >> We will try

[35:06] Kawaii. Hawaii. Hello.

[35:08] >> Hi, Bill. Um, I have a quick question

[35:10] for you about '08. It seems to me the

[35:12] Democrats do have someone who's actually

[35:14] experienced, intelligent, and has a

[35:17] plan. And that would be Joe Biden. So,

[35:20] if he could get enough funds, I'm

[35:21] wondering what you think of his chances

[35:22] in ' 08.

[35:23] >> He was just on the show tonight.

[35:25] >> I like Joe Biden. He uh he can speak his

[35:28] mind. He doesn't, you know, always come

[35:29] off like a politician who's straddling

[35:32] and waffling and listening to the polls.

[35:34] Um he's he's got experience, you know,

[35:37] and he strikes people as somebody who's

[35:38] not some left-wing nut. And I think what

[35:41] Democrats learned in this election is uh

[35:44] stay away from, you know, stay away from

[35:47] taking away people's guns and stay away

[35:49] from gay marriage. And you know what? I

[35:52] am willing to give the opposition those

[35:54] two things. I think there should be more

[35:56] gun control, but not if it's going to

[35:58] lose the whole country to a bunch of

[36:00] right-wing nuts who are going to take

[36:01] the country way down into a ditch. You

[36:04] know what? People want their guns. We're

[36:05] never going to get rid of them. That was

[36:07] a big issue in a lot of states. And Gal

[36:09] Gore probably lost the 2000 election

[36:11] over that. And gay marriage, you know

[36:13] what? People don't I don't I used to

[36:15] think people hated gays in this country.

[36:16] I don't think they do. I think they're

[36:18] smarter than that. But they, for some

[36:20] reason, they want marriage. They want to

[36:21] own that word. They really do. They

[36:24] don't want it to be about Bruce and

[36:26] Steve. They just want to own marriage

[36:29] and they want to have their guns. And if

[36:30] they if you give them that, apparently

[36:33] the Democrats can get it.

[36:34] >> He's saying give a married couple a pair

[36:36] of Red Rider rifles.

[36:38] >> Give married people guns and let them

[36:40] kill each other. That's what I'm saying.

[36:43] [laughter]

[36:44] That's my platform, Larry.

[36:48] >> Um, question from Fran in Wilsbury,

[36:50] Pennsylvania. Email. If you could offer

[36:52] advice to the new Congress, what would

[36:54] it be?

[36:56] >> Work together,

[36:58] which is what the Democrats are saying

[36:59] now. Uh, and I think they will.

[37:01] Democrats are not vindictive like

[37:04] Republicans. And I know the Republican,

[37:05] oh, Bill, how can you say that? Both

[37:06] parties are bad. No, they're both bad in

[37:09] a lot of ways, but there are

[37:10] differences. When Clinton got into

[37:12] office, there was no effort at all made

[37:15] to work with him. The idea from the

[37:17] get-go was he's illegitimate and we must

[37:20] destroy him in any way possible. And

[37:23] they found a way. Paula Jones and Monica

[37:25] Lewinsky. Nonsense. But that was idea.

[37:28] Destroy. Um I don't think the Democrats

[37:31] are that way. I think they will work

[37:34] together or try to work together. You

[37:36] know Bush Bush was asked the other day

[37:39] on Fox News when he was giving

[37:41] interviews. He and they said, "What do

[37:43] what do you like least about your job?"

[37:45] And he said, "The tone in Washington,

[37:49] very ugly, you know, the tone." Well,

[37:52] who did more to create that tone than

[37:54] you and your pitbull, Carl Rove? The guy

[37:57] who just finished running by telling

[38:00] people that the terrorists want the

[38:03] Democrats to win. But the tone in

[38:06] Washington is ugly. Well, I hope I hope

[38:08] the Democrats improve that. Back with

[38:11] more some more moments with Bill Mah.

[38:13] It's always great having him. on the

[38:15] way.

[38:16] >> He had a press conference about Iraq and

[38:19] he said, "I know a lot of the American

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[38:22] progress in Iraq. I'm not satisfied with

[38:24] our progress in Iraq." And then a

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[38:27] He said, "No." [laughter]

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[41:32] >> [cheering]

[41:56] >> indications Now that the Republicans may

[41:58] be a little discouraged about the

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[42:09] where

[42:11] from the Republican party.

[42:15] You see [applause]

[42:20] what are you going to do?

[42:22] >> Bill. Bill wanted to mention something.

[42:24] a guy who deserves some credit that he

[42:26] hasn't gotten, Howard Dean.

[42:27] >> Yeah. Well, we were just talking in the

[42:29] break about that and you know Howard

[42:31] Dean was the guy who said run a 50-state

[42:34] campaign. There was a big fight within

[42:36] the party about that and he said we

[42:38] can't do it the way we have been doing

[42:41] it with just the coasts and Chicago

[42:44] basically. Uh we got to win. We got to

[42:46] play in the in the whole country. And uh

[42:49] he turned out to be right. He turned to

[42:51] be right about a lot of things. You

[42:52] know, I know he's an insane person

[42:54] because he once spoke three octaves

[42:56] above the normal level of where we

[42:58] speak. So, of course, he's an insane

[42:59] crazy man who can't run for president.

[43:01] But maybe they had the right guy to

[43:03] begin with. He was certainly right about

[43:05] Saddam Hussein. Remember, he said

[43:07] capturing Saddam doesn't make us safer.

[43:09] And they all jumped all over him like,

[43:11] "Oh, please. How unpatriotic of you to

[43:13] say that?" Well, you know, 80% of our

[43:16] troops have been killed after we got

[43:18] Saddam. Now, we're going to kill Saddam.

[43:21] still.

[43:21] >> He was opposed to it from the beginning,

[43:23] wasn't he?

[43:23] >> And he was opposed to it from the

[43:24] beginning.

[43:25] >> Atlanta, hello.

[43:26] >> Hello.

[43:27] >> Yeah, you're on.

[43:28] >> Um, hi, Bill. Um,

[43:30] >> hey,

[43:30] >> I just wanted to say, um, your show is

[43:33] awesome.

[43:34] >> Thank you.

[43:35] >> Yes. And, um, I have a question for you.

[43:38] >> No.

[43:39] >> Okay. What would you do if Hillary

[43:41] Clinton won at office? A first woman.

[43:47] >> What would I What would I do if she won?

[43:49] He would he would like it from a humor

[43:51] standpoint. It would keep comics going,

[43:53] right? A Hillary presidency.

[43:55] >> Yeah. Well, you know, every president

[43:57] keeps comics going. Nobody, I don't care

[44:00] if it's George Bush, Bill Clinton,

[44:02] Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, will

[44:04] always find the things that are

[44:05] humorous. Nobody can be that much in the

[44:08] public eye, have a big cle light on you

[44:11] 24 hours a day, and not have comedians

[44:13] pick you apart. So, you know,

[44:15] comedically, they're all good. Uh, and

[44:17] as far as being a president, I think

[44:18] Hillary would make a fine president. I

[44:20] just don't think she could ever win.

[44:22] >> Why?

[44:23] >> Because she tries to be all things to

[44:26] all people. She is going, she alienates

[44:29] the real base of the Democratic party by

[44:33] coming out against things like flag

[44:35] burning and, you know, video games and

[44:37] trying to be that Republican light. And

[44:40] of course, she never is going to

[44:41] convince the real Republicans, the real

[44:44] goose hunters, the real NASCAR beer

[44:46] drinkers that she's one of them. So, I

[44:48] think you got you got the worst of both

[44:50] worlds.

[44:51] >> Okay, Bill, let's go over it. On the

[44:52] 16th, you will be in Las Vegas

[44:54] >> doing my standup show. Yes. If you want

[44:56] to split your sides for an hour and a

[44:58] half, come out to see me then. And then

[44:59] on the 18th, I'll be part of the

[45:02] Cavalcade of Comedy Stars on uh Comic

[45:05] Relief, which is televised on HBO that

[45:07] night. And even though that's a Thursday

[45:08] and a Saturday, you'll still be doing

[45:10] your Friday. I'll be back here to do my

[45:12] season finale Friday night.

[45:14] >> Uh,

[45:14] >> who's on this week?

[45:15] >> Uh, who's on this week? Salman Rushy, I

[45:18] know, is on this week. And, uh,

[45:21] >> and some surprise guests. [laughter]

[45:24] >> Never could remember who's on show.

[45:26] Thank you, Larry.

[45:27] >> Bill Maher. It's always great having him

[45:29] with us. Makes you think.

[45:32] And we'll be back tomorrow night. a part

[45:34] of our show tomorrow night