NBC Nightly News - 1982-08-12

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[0:06] This is NBC Nightly News with Tom Brocoy

[0:10] in Jerusalem, Roger Mud in Washington,

[0:13] and commentary by John Chancellor.

[0:16] Good evening. After weeks of generally

[0:18] muted reaction to the Middle East war,

[0:20] the White House said today in effect

[0:22] that President Reagan finally blew his

[0:23] top. They said he called Prime Minister

[0:25] Bean and in his harshest language to

[0:28] date expressed his outrage at today's

[0:30] Israeli shelling of Beirut. The shelling

[0:32] was the heaviest of the nine-week war.

[0:34] It continued until almost 4:30 in the

[0:36] afternoon Beirut time and it made

[0:38] negotiations between the PLO, the

[0:40] Lebanese, and the US physically

[0:42] dangerous. Those talks were suspended

[0:44] and are expected to resume in the

[0:45] morning. Beirut police said today

[0:47] shelling killed 128 and wounded 400. It

[0:51] is not clear what effect the president's

[0:52] phone call had on Prime Minister Bean

[0:54] because the White House knew before the

[0:56] two men talked that Israel had already

[0:58] stopped its bombing of Beirut. What is

[1:00] clear is the administration's growing

[1:02] frustration at not being able to control

[1:04] events in the Middle East. Judy Woodruff

[1:06] reports.

[1:08] The president called Prime Minister Bean

[1:10] to express what White House officials

[1:12] described as shock and outrage at

[1:14] today's attack and to warn that the

[1:16] relationship between the United States

[1:18] and Israel was at stake if the bombing

[1:20] were not stopped. Later, the White House

[1:22] made public details of the 10-minute

[1:24] conversation, saying the president

[1:26] emphasized that Israel's action had

[1:29] halted the Hhabib peace negotiations

[1:31] just when they were at the point of

[1:33] success and that the result had been

[1:35] more needless destruction and bloodshed.

[1:37] One official said Mr. Reagan called the

[1:39] Israeli response out of proportion to

[1:42] any ceasefire violation. 20 minutes

[1:44] after that call ended, Bean called Mr.

[1:47] Reagan back to say that a new ceasefire

[1:49] had been ordered. The White House also

[1:51] announced that before his call to Bean,

[1:53] the president received a call from King

[1:55] Fod of Saudi Arabia, who was also upset

[1:58] over the situation in West Beirut.

[2:01] White House officials say the president

[2:03] did not threaten Bean with any sort of

[2:05] retaliation. In fact, officials here are

[2:07] frustrated by the continuing perception

[2:09] that they are powerless to influence the

[2:12] Israelis. They believe that appeal after

[2:14] appeal to exercise restraint has fallen

[2:16] on deaf ears. and they say that today's

[2:19] decision to criticize Israel publicly

[2:21] came because the bombing seems so

[2:23] senseless at a time when a peace

[2:25] settlement seems so close. One official

[2:28] also conceded that this sort of tough

[2:30] talk comes easier to the president now

[2:33] that public opinion polls, which are

[2:35] watched closely here, show a growing

[2:37] American impatience with Israel's

[2:39] aggressiveness. Judy Woodruff, NBC News

[2:41] at the White House. Despite the White

[2:44] House disclaimers of any Reagan threats,

[2:46] Israeli radio reported today the

[2:48] president told Bean that Ambassador

[2:50] Habib would be ordered home if the

[2:52] bombing continued. Tom,

[2:55] the pressure from President Reagan had

[2:57] immediate results here in Jerusalem. The

[2:59] Beagan government suspended air strikes

[3:01] against Beirut and cracked down on

[3:03] hard-nosed defense minister Ariel

[3:05] Chiron. This showdown over the bombing

[3:07] policy has been coming all week. A

[3:10] number of leading Israeli politicians

[3:12] have been privately concerned that the

[3:14] negotiations would collapse if the air

[3:16] strikes continue and then Israel would

[3:19] be blamed.

[3:25] >> The day began with a rancerous debate in

[3:27] the Knesset when Prime Minister Bean

[3:29] appeared to defend his government's

[3:30] policies. Two communist members of the

[3:32] parliament protested so loudly they were

[3:34] removed.

[3:42] But the meaningful fireworks came later

[3:44] during a closed meeting of Bean's

[3:45] cabinet. Defense Minister Chiron

[3:47] outlined a plan for Israeli forces to

[3:49] move forward in Beirut. He said the new

[3:52] positions would make it more difficult

[3:53] for the PLO to cheat on the evacuation

[3:56] plan. Other cabinet members exploded,

[3:58] accusing Chiron of running his own war.

[4:01] They said Chiron didn't even tell Bean

[4:03] before ordering the attacks of the last

[4:05] two days. They said that Israel was

[4:07] destroying its image in the world.

[4:11] >> Through it all, Bean sat quietly, not

[4:14] defending his defense minister. Tonight,

[4:16] a source very close to the prime

[4:17] minister said Bean admires Chiron, but

[4:20] he thinks of him as a wild horse which

[4:22] needs to be ridden. And Bean wants

[4:24] President Reagan to know that he has

[4:26] this wild horse under control.

[4:30] The vote in the cabinet against Chiron

[4:32] was 15-2.

[4:35] Israel will continue to respond to PLO

[4:37] fire, but from now on, Prime Minister

[4:40] Bean will personally order the

[4:41] operations and not leave them to Defense

[4:44] Minister Chiron. Today's air strikes,

[4:47] however, were ordered by Chiron and they

[4:49] were devastating. James Compton now in

[4:52] West Beirut.

[4:58] >> Lebanon hadn't seen an attack like this

[5:00] one since the Israelis first invaded

[5:02] nine weeks ago.

[5:05] The Lebanese government said there were

[5:06] nearly 100 air raids by Israeli jets and

[5:09] estimated there were 300 killed and

[5:11] wounded.

[5:14] The most concentrated and sustained

[5:15] bombing of the war destroyed dozens of

[5:18] buildings.

[5:20] The attacks which once seemed designed

[5:22] to put pressure on the diplomatic

[5:24] process today seemed bent on destroying

[5:26] the last vestages of Palestinian

[5:28] military power in West Beirut. Bombs

[5:31] fell on the athletic stadium and on

[5:33] refugee camps. In the afternoon, heavy

[5:36] Israeli guns opened fire from positions

[5:38] in East Beirut near the dividing line

[5:40] with West Beirut. Israeli troops trying

[5:43] to push forward to the museum at the

[5:45] crossing point ran into heavy

[5:46] resistance.

[5:48] The city was virtually sealed off from

[5:50] the outside.

[5:52] Lebanese officials who have negotiated

[5:54] the proposed Palestinian withdrawal were

[5:56] bewildered by the intense Israeli

[5:58] assault. Prime Minister Shupikal was on

[6:01] said we can't understand this escalation

[6:03] when agreement has been reached. He said

[6:06] with optimism everywhere we cannot see

[6:08] any reason for the outburst of bombing

[6:10] in which thousands of tons of bombs have

[6:13] dropped on West Beirut.

[6:15] James Coffin, NBC News, West Beirut.

[6:19] >> Even if this new Israeli policy of a

[6:21] more measured response to PLO fire

[6:23] holds, the evacuation agreement still

[6:26] has a long way to go. The Israeli

[6:28] government still wants a list of what

[6:30] PLO fighters will go to which Arab

[6:32] countries and Prime Minister Bean still

[6:34] is not happy with the role of the French

[6:36] peacekeeping force. And then there is

[6:38] this troubling question. Once the

[6:41] evacuation gets underway, what if

[6:43] someone starts shooting? What then?

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[8:27] >> Henry Fonda died this morning after 77

[8:30] years. His heart failed. President

[8:32] Reagan mourned his passing and called

[8:33] him a legend. Fonda died with his wife

[8:36] by his side. Meredith Lewis reports from

[8:38] Los Angeles. Henry Fonda received the

[8:41] Oscar for on Golden Pond at his home in

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[9:00] Jane, Amy, and Peter, were with her as

[9:02] she described his passing.

[9:05] >> Henry died this morning at 5 minutes to

[9:08] 8. He died comfortably. He was in no

[9:12] pain. He had a very good night the night

[9:14] before. Talked all of us. Was never

[9:18] unconscious at any time.

[9:20] He woke up this morning, sat up in bed,

[9:23] and quietly just stopped breathing.

[9:26] >> Jimmy Stewart and Henry Fonda were

[9:27] friends since 1932, and he called on his

[9:30] family this afternoon.

[9:32] >> Well, I've I've lost my best friend.

[9:35] That's

[9:36] number one.

[9:38] Uh

[9:40] I think people all over the world have

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[9:45] what I think is the finest actor in the

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[9:49] Fondo once told friends that since he

[9:51] hated going to other people's funerals,

[9:53] he didn't want one held for him. He

[9:55] donated his eyes to a New York eye bank.

[9:58] And in accord with his wishes, he will

[10:00] be cremated. Meredith Lewis, NBC News,

[10:03] Los Angeles.

[10:05] Henry Fonda was a very American actor.

[10:07] He once said, "I'm still Omaha,

[10:09] Nebraska. I've never tried hard to get

[10:10] away from that." Because he was genuine.

[10:13] He was one of Hollywood's great actors

[10:15] during Hollywood's finest years. Frank

[10:17] Bergholder looks back.

[10:19] >> But car is terrible when he's mad.

[10:21] >> For Henry Fonda, acting was his life.

[10:23] Dozens of plays, more than 80 films. The

[10:27] farmer takes a wife, which he'd played

[10:28] on Broadway, became his first film.

[10:31] >> I first committed myself to acting when

[10:34] I discovered that it was

[10:36] therapy for a very self-conscious young

[10:38] man.

[10:42] I could put on a mask, hide behind it.

[10:46] And I feel very lucky over the years to

[10:49] have been given a chance to pretend to

[10:52] be some pretty interesting characters.

[10:57] >> Hanging's any man's business that's

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[11:00] >> Kill him. I'll kill him.

[11:02] >> You don't really mean you'll kill me, do

[11:04] you?

[11:06] Like Casey says,

[11:09] fell ain't got a soul of his own. Just

[11:12] little piece of a big soul. the one big

[11:15] solar belongs to everybody.

[11:18] >> It never occurred to him to seek formal

[11:21] training as an actor, but he had a very

[11:23] strict standard for his work. As he

[11:25] recalled during a visit to his hometown,

[11:27] Omaha, Nebraska,

[11:28] >> by the time I knew that that's what I

[11:30] wanted to be, an actor,

[11:33] I began to have the feeling that I don't

[11:36] want the audience to ever see the wheels

[11:37] go around. make it so natural that they

[11:41] they accept you, not that you're acting.

[11:44] >> There was drama and turbulence in his

[11:46] personal life. Five marriages, two

[11:49] children, Jane and Peter, who made waves

[11:51] of their own. The third Amy, a more

[11:53] private person. He starred in Mr.

[11:55] Roberts in the film and on the stage for

[11:58] four years. Always like the stage

[12:00] version better.

[12:09] He always in fact preferred working on

[12:11] the stage. Clarence Darrow was another

[12:14] of his many stage characters.

[12:15] >> Breaker boy John McCaffrey. That means

[12:18] they set you and hundred others a

[12:21] straddle the shootute and as a coal

[12:23] comes rushing down you pick up the

[12:25] slate.

[12:27] Do they let you see the sun all day

[12:30] long? His last big vehicle was the film

[12:32] on Golden Pond with Katherine Heppern

[12:35] and his daughter Jane.

[12:38] >> I suppose you expect me to sing

[12:39] something now. Well, I'm not about to.

[12:44] I've been trying all day to draw some

[12:48] profound conclusions about living four

[12:51] score years. Haven't thought of

[12:53] anything.

[12:55] Surprised you got here so fast.

[12:57] It was a performance that finally

[12:59] brought a working actor the Academy

[13:01] Award as best actor.

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[14:59] 14 were arrested. Heidi Schulman

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[15:11] >> You must leave immediately. If you

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[15:42] boarded the catch armed with rifles and

[15:44] arrested those on board.

[15:50] One rubber boat broke away and tried to

[15:52] head off the sub, but it was quickly cut

[15:54] off by cutters. None of that slowed the

[15:57] Ohio. As it moved into the canal, some

[15:59] people who live along the route gathered

[16:01] on the beach to welcome it.

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[16:11] Americans can take great pride in this

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[16:23] >> The Ohio's crew will be here for several

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[16:31] NBC News, Banger, Washington.

[16:35] In a move which is provoking heavy

[16:37] criticism, the Reagan administration is

[16:39] using the Internal Revenue Service to

[16:41] help locate the small percentage of

[16:43] young men who have not registered for

[16:44] the draft. Here's Don Porter.

[16:49] Under the Selective Service Letterhead,

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[17:01] wealth of taxpayer information, the IRS

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[17:08] Congressman Peter Piser says that

[17:10] undermines the credibility of the IRS.

[17:13] >> Probably the most important is the

[17:15] feeling of the American public that

[17:16] their tax returns are confidential

[17:19] between the IRS and uh themselves.

[17:23] Internal Revenue Commissioner Rosco

[17:24] Edgar denies violating taxpayer privacy,

[17:27] adding his agency will not for now

[17:29] reveal to the Selective Service any

[17:31] addresses turned up by IRS computers.

[17:34] That's just fine with selective service

[17:35] director Thomas Turnage.

[17:37] >> What we're after are the results. Uh the

[17:39] technique is less uh uh of an issue for

[17:42] us. The technique is of great interest

[17:44] at the White House where reportedly

[17:46] presidential aid Ed Me joined Defense

[17:48] Secretary Casper Weinberger in urging

[17:50] IRS involvement in spurring registration

[17:52] compliance. The IRS selective service

[17:55] letter warns the IRS may be required in

[17:57] the future to turn over the addresses of

[17:59] non-registrants for possible

[18:01] prosecution. That's when Paiser and the

[18:04] American Civil Liberties Union expect

[18:05] the courts to be asked to decide what

[18:07] role the IRS may properly play in

[18:09] helping to enforce the draft

[18:10] registration law. Don Porter, NBC News,

[18:13] Washington.

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[20:16] accused of ambushing and shooting former

[20:18] Urban League President Vernon Jordan,

[20:20] continued today in Southbend, Indiana.

[20:22] Roger O'Neal reports.

[20:25] Martha Coleman, the woman who was with

[20:26] Vernon Jordan in Fort Wayne, Indiana the

[20:28] night he was shot, said today she heard

[20:30] a loud noise and Jordan scream, "I've

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[20:37] the man accused of shooting Jordan, sat

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[20:54] prominent black leader. Mrs. Coleman

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[21:00] the FBI investigation of the shooting,

[21:02] Mrs. Coleman was hypnotized to see if

[21:04] she could remember more, but she was

[21:06] never able to identify who shot Jordan.

[21:08] Federal prosecutors say they'll wrap up

[21:10] their case tomorrow. Franklin's

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[21:21] O'Neal, NBC News, Southbend, Indiana.

[21:24] >> All indications are that the president

[21:26] will address the nation in the next few

[21:28] days uh to ask for support for the $99

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[21:33] to ask the networks for equal time was

[21:35] not a Democratic party spokesman, but

[21:37] Conservative leader Terry Dolan. In his

[21:40] commentary tonight, John Chancellor, who

[21:42] has just returned from the Middle East

[21:43] battle, has some thoughts on the tax

[21:44] battle. John,

[21:47] >> I thought things were confused in the

[21:49] Middle East. But look what's happening

[21:50] here at home. Ronald Reagan, the king of

[21:53] the tax cutters, who presided over last

[21:55] year's biggest tax cuts in history, is

[21:58] now supporting a tax increase which is

[21:59] being called the largest tax boost in

[22:02] history. Taxes are not supposed to go up

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[22:06] purchasing power and slow the recovery.

[22:08] Yet, the administration wants to raise

[22:10] taxes in the worst recession in more

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[22:32] bill at all. The White House says the

[22:34] bill isn't as bad as it appears, but Mr.

[22:36] Reagan's conservative friends say that

[22:38] it still is designed to take 99 billion

[22:41] out of the private sector and give it to

[22:43] the government. The fact is that however

[22:45] much the president hates all this, he's

[22:47] right. The government needs the extra

[22:49] tax money to offset deficits so big that

[22:52] they threaten everything. Mr. Reagan's

[22:54] enemies say his policies cause these

[22:56] deficits. He doesn't agree. But to try

[22:59] to get the deficits down, he needs more

[23:01] taxes. And to do that, he's got to

[23:03] desert his friends and his economic

[23:05] philosophy. Tough times for Ronald

[23:07] Reagan. Roger.

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[23:14] nearly half the adult Americans sampled

[23:17] think President Reagan has had enough

[23:19] time to fix the economy, has not done

[23:21] so, and they now think his program is a

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[23:29] disapprove.

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[25:07] Douglas Ker keeps moving west. West

[25:09] along Route 30. And tonight he's in

[25:11] Warsaw, Indiana, where he spent a day at

[25:13] an establishment unique in American

[25:15] life. Northeastern Indiana, Lake

[25:19] Country.

[25:21] There are lots of familiar places along

[25:23] Route 30 where a hungry traveler can

[25:25] stop to eat here. Places so familiar

[25:28] they could be anywhere on any highway.

[25:31] But turn left off the bypass, head down

[25:34] Center Street in Warsaw, Indiana, and

[25:36] right in the middle of town, you'll find

[25:38] a place that's a little different.

[25:40] >> 13.

[25:42] There's your red four. Just told you had

[25:44] the red five.

[25:46] >> Greetings, food, Dominoes, cigars. It's

[25:50] the town hangout with a spirited domino

[25:52] game that never seems to end.

[25:55] >> I've been coming in here for

[25:58] >> 45 years.

[26:00] >> 45 years.

[26:01] >> Yeah, I'm only 46.

[26:05] >> Readings is not part of any fast food

[26:07] chain. Not part of anything except the

[26:09] town of Warsaw and the men who live

[26:11] here. You

[26:13] >> come in, you get your coffee, you sit

[26:14] and you get caught up on the local news.

[26:17] You know what's happening here before

[26:19] the newspaper gets it? Sometimes

[26:21] >> it's not a bar, not even beer. Greetings

[26:24] is an old cigar store which over half a

[26:26] century has evolved into a short order

[26:28] cafe. The atmosphere inside loud and

[26:31] rockous.

[26:33] >> If you want a quiet, peaceful cup of

[26:35] coffee, go to McDonald's. Don't come

[26:37] here.

[26:38] >> It's the place where people come to read

[26:40] the papers, exchange local gossip, and

[26:42] kid the current owner, Burley Berg,

[26:44] about the quality of the food. I haven't

[26:46] heard one.

[26:48] >> Come on.

[26:50] >> Women are not banned, but the regulars

[26:52] still talk about the last time one came

[26:54] in.

[26:55] >> You know, it's a funny thing. Men have

[26:56] to be together for some reason or other.

[26:58] I don't know why. And women, they a few

[27:01] of them get together, but they don't bum

[27:03] around with each other all the time.

[27:05] >> Solve everything in the county. Politics

[27:07] and all in there.

[27:08] >> Yeah. Politics, religion, we anything.

[27:11] Women, we could we could tell you how to

[27:13] understand. Well, no, we couldn't

[27:14] either, couldn't we?

[27:16] >> Beyond that, Breedings is pure small

[27:19] town democracy.

[27:20] >> You got bankers, you got undertakers,

[27:23] you got doctors, you got workingmen, you

[27:25] got farmers, you got laborers, you got

[27:26] everything. I told my wife one time, I

[27:29] said a kid working there about 6 or 8

[27:32] months be like sending to college for

[27:34] about 3 years. He learned more about

[27:36] life.

[27:38] >> Most of your small town around had a

[27:40] group like this, but they've slowly

[27:42] disappeared.

[27:44] That's a shame.

[27:45] >> Yeah, it is. Cuz they've lost a lot of

[27:47] their fellowship that way.

[27:49] >> Fellowship.

[27:50] >> Yeah.

[27:53] >> They come here for the camaraderie, for

[27:55] the fellowship. It's their place. It's

[27:57] their thing. They belong. Any McDonald's

[28:01] will sell you a hamburger, but you can't

[28:03] belong there. Douglas Kiker, NBC News,

[28:06] along Route 30 in Warsaw, Indiana.

[28:10] >> That's nightly news for Thursday. I'm

[28:12] Roger Mud in Washington

[28:15] >> and I'm Tom Brokco in Jerusalem. Good

[28:17] night for all of us at NBC News.