Good Morning America (ABC) / CBS This Morning snippets - 1992-03-17
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[0:00] are still predicting a yes vote. A high
[0:02] voter turnout should help, but it could
[0:05] be close. And conservatives are already
[0:07] threatening a campaign of
[0:08] destabilization if President D Clerk
[0:10] does not get the clear mandate he needs
[0:13] to continue reform. Mark Litki, ABC
[0:16] News, Johannesburg.
[0:18] >> What appears to have been a tragic
[0:19] mistake today in Istanbul, the capital
[0:22] of Turkey. A police building in the
[0:24] central part of the city was damaged
[0:25] extensively when two bombs went off.
[0:28] Reports say police were trying to defuse
[0:31] those bombs when something went wrong.
[0:33] At least two policemen were killed and
[0:35] another eight were injured. US
[0:38] intelligence sources have told ABC News
[0:40] that Israel may be selling an advanced
[0:42] laser weapon called the Copperhead to
[0:45] China. Israeli officials have already
[0:47] denied selling Patriot missiles abroad
[0:49] in violation of agreements with the US.
[0:51] Weapon sales and loan guarantees are
[0:53] expected to be the two hot topics of
[0:56] conversation later today when Secretary
[0:58] of State James Baker meets with the
[1:00] Israeli Defense Minister in Washington.
[1:02] And that's the news. And here are Sam
[1:04] and Joan. Happy St. Pat's Day to both of
[1:07] you.
[1:07] >> All right. Same to you. Thank you, Mort.
[1:09] And it is about 8 minutes after right
[1:10] now. Sam Champion in from WABC TV here
[1:13] in New York.
[1:14] >> Do a little national weather.
[1:19] He won the party's nomination at the
[1:21] Democratic National Convention in
[1:22] Atlanta back in 1988. And while the 1992
[1:26] Democratic convention is still some
[1:27] months away on the campus of Westminster
[1:29] College, students are getting a head
[1:31] start now with their own mock Democratic
[1:33] convention. Michael Dakus is their
[1:35] keynote speaker and he joins us this
[1:36] morning from Westminster College in New
[1:38] Wilmington, Pennsylvania. Governor, good
[1:39] to have you with us again this morning.
[1:40] >> Good to be with you, Mike.
[1:41] >> I guess conventions tend to bring back
[1:43] some memories, some good, some perhaps a
[1:44] little bit painful. What's the theme?
[1:46] Oh, we we had a great
[1:48] >> I beg your pardon?
[1:48] >> I'm sorry. What's the theme of the
[1:49] conversation going to be? What are you
[1:50] going to tell these students today?
[1:51] >> Well, I spoke last night, as a matter of
[1:53] fact, Mike. Uh well, I talked about this
[1:55] country, about uh how we ought to be
[1:57] feeling a lot better about ourselves now
[1:59] the Cold War is over and the need for a
[2:00] new president who can lift us up and
[2:02] pick us up and move us forward. And I
[2:03] think that's particularly true with
[2:05] young people. I mean, we need some of
[2:06] the spirit of the Kennedy years, Mike,
[2:08] when young people felt good about this
[2:09] country, about public service. And I
[2:11] think it's going to take a new president
[2:13] to do that. I'm going to say the race
[2:14] though doesn't seem to be reflecting
[2:15] good feelings about each other. The
[2:17] candidates now seem to be sniping. Some
[2:18] would say the race has gotten downright
[2:20] nasty. Do you think this hurts the
[2:21] Democratic chances for victory or does
[2:23] it perhaps get them ready for what
[2:24] they're going to face from the
[2:25] Republicans? Well, I think there's
[2:27] something of that. On the other hand,
[2:28] remember what Abe Lincoln said about the
[2:30] Democrats. They sound like they're cats
[2:32] fighting in the night, but when you wake
[2:33] up in the morning, they're just making
[2:34] more Democrats. And I suspect that's
[2:35] what we're really doing. But uh I think
[2:38] uh this will be behind us as we finally
[2:40] head toward a nomination. and and I
[2:41] think it'll be another few weeks before
[2:43] we really know who that nominee is going
[2:44] to be.
[2:45] >> If Governor Clinton should win today in
[2:46] Illinois and win today in Michigan, is
[2:48] he all but secured the nomination?
[2:50] >> Well, it's going to be a big boost for
[2:52] him. On the other hand, as you recall,
[2:53] from 1988, I had a very good Super
[2:55] Tuesday and then I got creamed in
[2:57] Illinois and beaten decisively by Jesse
[2:59] Jackson in Michigan and we didn't get
[3:01] back on track until we got to Wisconsin.
[3:03] So, this is a long one and it's a long
[3:05] distance run, but obviously if he does
[3:07] well today, it's going to be a major
[3:08] boost for him. to size up the candidates
[3:09] if you would right now. Give us a sense
[3:11] of where you see their strengths and
[3:13] weaknesses at at this point of the
[3:14] campaign. Clinton for instance.
[3:16] >> Well, I think the two strong ones are
[3:17] obviously Bill Clinton and Paul Sus. Two
[3:20] very tough uh focused uh very abled
[3:23] people. Uh obviously two very different
[3:25] personalities as as I think we've seen,
[3:27] but I think both of them deserve a
[3:29] tremendous amount of credit for doing
[3:30] what they've been able to do. Paul came
[3:32] from nowhere when when nobody thought he
[3:34] could do it and has turned himself into
[3:36] a very strong and and I think attractive
[3:38] and viable candidate. U Bill Clinton
[3:40] went through what has to be one of the
[3:42] toughest six week periods any candidate
[3:45] has ever gone through. And he's not only
[3:47] still on his feet, but seems to me
[3:48] getting stronger, not weaker as time
[3:50] goes on. So, uh either one of these men
[3:53] will be a very formidable nominee. I
[3:55] think either one of them can beat George
[3:57] Bush and beat him decisively, and we'll
[3:58] just have to see uh what the voters say
[4:00] today. in the weeks to come.
[4:02] >> On on Clinton, for instance, though,
[4:04] there are some who are surprised that
[4:05] he's managed to survive and and thrive
[4:07] in this race. Uh Gary Hart was knocked
[4:09] out for sexual allegations a few years
[4:11] back in ' 88 to be specific. Uh and and
[4:14] Joe Biden was knocked out of race before
[4:16] that because he lifted some uh some
[4:17] words from somebody else's speeches. I
[4:19] mean, there are allegations against
[4:20] Clinton that go far beyond that. Are you
[4:22] surprised that he's managed to do as
[4:23] well as Bill is a Bill is a very tough
[4:25] and a very resourceful person. Remember,
[4:28] he's been in some very tough fights back
[4:30] in Arkansas. He fights back. Uh I must
[4:34] say he's doing it more effectively than
[4:35] a guy named Mike Dukakus did it in the
[4:37] last few months of the 1988 campaign.
[4:39] And I think he deserves credit for that.
[4:41] Uh I'm not surprised that he's been able
[4:43] to do this. And I think it's it's a
[4:44] measure of the man. On the other hand,
[4:46] uh it hasn't been easy for Paul Sonis
[4:48] either. I mean, there was a time six or
[4:49] eight months ago when people said,
[4:51] "What's he doing? He hasn't got a shot
[4:52] at this." Uh it was a very lonely quest
[4:55] and he was the guy that was out there
[4:57] contesting for this when nobody else
[4:59] would. So I think you've got two very
[5:02] disciplined, very focused and very able
[5:04] people in this race, Mike. And uh and I
[5:06] think either one of them would be a darn
[5:08] good nominee.
[5:09] >> On the subject of of Sonus though, you
[5:10] I'm sure you've heard him say this when
[5:12] attacked. He is been known to say this
[5:15] is one Greek American from Massachusetts
[5:17] who fights back. Is how do you feel when
[5:19] you hear that? Well, look, we did not do
[5:22] a very good job of dealing with a Bush
[5:23] attack campaign and and that's a fact
[5:25] and I regret it. I think if I had done a
[5:27] better job, I might be talking to you
[5:28] from the Oval Office, not uh from some
[5:31] other place. And uh although uh we
[5:34] should have done much better, I think
[5:36] it's very important that Paul and Bill
[5:38] and anyone who's running for this
[5:39] nomination learn from that experience. I
[5:41] have no doubt, Mike, that when push
[5:43] comes to shove, George Bush will engage
[5:45] in exactly the same kind of tactics
[5:47] against whoever our nominee is. and and
[5:49] this time we'd better be ready. And if
[5:51] that means learning painfully from the
[5:53] lessons of 1988, then I hope we've
[5:55] learned that lesson and and we never sit
[5:57] back and uh and let it happen as I did
[6:00] for weeks and weeks until it was too
[6:02] late. When you hear Pat Buchanan giving
[6:04] heat to George Bush, do you get a sense
[6:06] that the president's getting a dose of
[6:08] his own medicine? Do you get some sort
[6:09] of satisfaction out of that? Well, I
[6:11] must say it's uh kind of deliciously
[6:15] ironic that George Bush is complaining
[6:17] about racist attack ads against him. And
[6:20] I think it says something, frankly,
[6:22] about the character of George Bush. This
[6:23] is a guy who will do anything to get
[6:25] elected or reelected. And I think that's
[6:26] a message that we have to deliver loud
[6:28] and clear to the American people.
[6:30] Governor, had to leave it there.
[6:31] Appreciate it. Good luck to you. Thank
[6:32] you, Mike. Governor Michael Deakus from
[6:33] Pennsylvania. First this morning, it is
[6:35] now 15 minutes past the hour. Paramount
[6:38] pays up and Artbook responds when Good
[6:40] Morning America continues.
[6:42] >> Hi, I'm Hillary Freely. Happy St.
[6:45] Patrick's Day. Good Morning America.
[6:47] >> Mambbo Madness in New York City after
[6:49] dark in our next half hour.
[6:54] >> Right now it is 18 minutes after 7.
[6:55] Columnist Art Bookwald is finally
[6:57] getting the last laugh. The laugh is on
[6:59] Paramount Pictures. You will recall that
[7:01] Bookwald and a partner sued Paramount in
[7:03] 1988, claiming that they and not Eddie
[7:05] Murphy had conceived the idea for the
[7:07] hit film Coming to America. In 1990, a
[7:10] judge agreed, but it wasn't until
[7:12] yesterday that he ordered Paramount to
[7:13] pay Bookwald and his partner $900,000 in
[7:17] damages. And Art Bookwald joins us this
[7:19] morning from Washington. And our
[7:20] entertainment editor, Joel Seagull, is
[7:22] here with me in New York. Good morning
[7:24] to both of you.
[7:25] >> Good morning.
[7:25] >> Morning.
[7:26] >> All right, Art. I know that you and your
[7:27] partner though did ask for I think it
[7:29] was more than $6 million got less than1
[7:31] million. Are you satisfied?
[7:33] >> Well, our lawyer asked for 6 million. We
[7:35] were willing to go along with it. I'm
[7:38] very I'm very satisfied because this did
[7:41] not turn out to be about money. It
[7:43] started to be about money but eventually
[7:45] turned into a fight against the titans
[7:48] of Hollywood about contracts which they
[7:51] wrote and had no intention of keeping.
[7:53] The judge ruled that their contracts
[7:55] were unconscionable. I think we made a
[7:58] great contribution to for all writers
[8:00] and for actors and for directors. So, I
[8:03] feel very good about it because when the
[8:06] money is forgotten, I know that uh this
[8:09] case will really be up there in all the
[8:12] law courts and I'll be part of history
[8:14] because every time they say Buckwald
[8:17] Burnheim versus Paramont, we'll have
[8:21] won. Well, until the money is forgotten
[8:24] though, we offered Paramount an
[8:25] opportunity to appear this morning. We
[8:27] should say that they chose not to, but
[8:28] they didn't give us a statement. All
[8:29] right. Part of which says, quote, "This
[8:31] decision is a victory
[8:33] >> for Paramount and clearly a loss for
[8:35] Book Welder Partner because their
[8:36] lawyers spent more than $2.5 million and
[8:39] spent three years for this award." So,
[8:42] >> I'd like to answer that.
[8:43] >> Go ahead.
[8:44] >> If they say they won, why are they
[8:47] appealing?
[8:49] >> I knew you'd say that, Art.
[8:52] We We won and we're not appealing. They
[8:55] won and they're appealing.
[8:57] >> Now, this is like one case that we're
[8:59] hearing about where somebody won. I
[9:00] mean, how common, Joel, is this sort of
[9:03] I guess you'd call it idea theft seems
[9:05] like they have no protection against an
[9:06] idea.
[9:07] >> Most of the movies I see, I'm surprised
[9:09] that anyone wants to take credit for
[9:10] them, let alone people sue to get to
[9:13] take credit for them.
[9:14] >> The
[9:15] >> the suits are common. They are
[9:16] unfortunately common. People sue. You'll
[9:19] write a a story in your high school
[9:21] newspaper about a little kid who fends
[9:23] off two burglars and you say and he was
[9:25] home alone at the time and then somebody
[9:27] comes out the movie and and the suits
[9:28] are common. What's unique about this
[9:30] case and exceptional about this case is
[9:32] that it fulfilled the two requirements.
[9:34] One is that the similarities were there
[9:37] in dialogue and content and idea and two
[9:40] you could prove access. I mean it's one
[9:42] thing to have written a great Civil War
[9:43] drama but you had to prove that Margaret
[9:44] Mitchell had read it before she wrote
[9:45] hers. Can I say something on that?
[9:48] >> And that is that this was not a
[9:50] plagiarism suit. This was a breach of
[9:53] contract suit because we had a breach.
[9:55] We had a contract with Paramont. They
[9:57] took our property to developer Eddie
[10:00] Murphy. They had it for two and a half
[10:02] years and then gave it back to us and
[10:04] then after we had it and took it to
[10:06] Warner Brothers, they announced a movie
[10:08] very similar. So it wasn't plagiarism.
[10:11] We decided not to sue for plagiarism
[10:13] because it's too tough to win.
[10:14] >> See, that's the point. I mean, we're not
[10:15] talking here. I mean, obviously 10
[10:17] people can come up with a similar idea.
[10:18] And just because somebody does it
[10:20] doesn't mean that because you're sitting
[10:21] over here and you had that idea that
[10:23] you're owed anything. The problem is is
[10:25] when people take their material and
[10:26] their hard work to these big studios and
[10:29] then they use their power and just kind
[10:30] of like, you know, the truth is
[10:32] Hollywood, they're really not in
[10:33] business to steal. If you come with them
[10:35] with a great idea, they're going to want
[10:36] to buy it because they're going to want
[10:38] another great idea from you. And if you
[10:40] submit unsolicited manuscripts to an
[10:42] agent, you'll get them back sealed only
[10:44] because they have to protect themselves
[10:46] from things like this. And what's unique
[10:48] about Art's case is he did have the
[10:49] contract. He had the proof of that paper
[10:51] trail.
[10:52] >> Are you going to write any more
[10:53] screenplays, Art?
[10:54] >> No.
[10:56] >> I am never going to write a screenplay
[10:58] because I'm very happy doing what I'm
[11:00] doing, which is talking to your people
[11:02] about a suit.
[11:03] >> Is Pamel going to make this into a
[11:04] movie? Parammont is so mad because they
[11:07] had to rewrite all their contracts. They
[11:10] put in net profits and they have no
[11:12] intention of paying people net profits.
[11:14] And that's where in they're in very
[11:16] serious trouble.
[11:16] >> What are you going to do with your
[11:17] profits here?
[11:19] >> I don't know. I thought I'd buy a
[11:21] Japanese or American card depending
[11:23] which is cheaper.
[11:26] >> All right, Art. Thank you very much.
[11:28] Good luck to you, Joel. Thanks. We'll be
[11:29] back in our next hour. Carol Bernett
[11:31] will be with us. Good Morning America
[11:32] continues.
[11:42] The Clancy Brothers with our theme this
[11:44] St. Patrick's Day. Did you notice that
[11:45] window? Isn't that great? It was green
[11:47] when they were singing and now it's
[11:49] yellow when you and I are here saying
[11:50] good morning. Welcome back to CBS this
[11:52] morning. You're not as impressed. I'm
[11:53] Paul
[11:55] >> and I'm Harry Smith. The Clancy brothers
[11:56] are going to sing a traditional Irish
[11:57] tune for us a little later on this
[11:59] morning. For a decade now, Jerry Douglas
[12:02] has been starring on television's most
[12:04] >> Would you like to stand up for me? This
[12:06] popular soap opera, The Young and the
[12:09] Restless.
[12:10] >> For your information,
[12:13] >> I invited Jill to stay. I want her here.
[12:16] >> You think you do. I know, Dad. But
[12:18] you're a victim here. A victim of a very
[12:20] well-laid plan by the dragon lady.
[12:22] >> Jack, that's enough.
[12:24] >> We'll be talking with Jerry Douglas in
[12:26] this half hour. So what is his
[12:28] relationship with his father?
[12:30] >> What Jack betrayed him in the most
[12:34] unbelievable way. We'll talk about that
[12:35] later. And
[12:36] >> you get the soap opera digest or did you
[12:38] watch the show or how?
[12:39] >> This is the one soap opera that I know
[12:40] anything about. Young and the restless.
[12:42] >> Why is that?
[12:43] >> A million years ago when I did the noon
[12:44] news, right?
[12:45] >> I used to go down to do the noon news
[12:47] and I'd look down and there was the
[12:48] Young and the Restless. So I'd watch the
[12:49] last five minutes of it every day.
[12:51] >> 19,000 years since you did.
[12:52] >> All you have to do is All you have to do
[12:53] is check in once or twice a year and
[12:55] you're up to speed. It's pretty easy.
[12:57] And what happens when a company gets in
[12:59] trouble? I mean, real trouble. Our
[13:01] Robert Crowitch is going to be here to
[13:02] tell us about the people who just can't
[13:04] wait to help out. And Dr. Bob Arnot on
[13:07] the controversy over using fetal tissue
[13:09] to advance science and possibly save
[13:12] lives.
[13:12] >> Now, it's time for the latest news this
[13:14] morning. Almost 300 Democratic
[13:15] convention delegates are up for grabs
[13:17] today in the Illinois and Michigan
[13:18] primaries. Big wins for Bill Clinton in
[13:21] both states could make the Arkansas
[13:22] governor all but uncatchable between now
[13:25] and the nominating convention in July.
[13:27] But Jerry Brown may have something to
[13:29] say about that in Michigan, where he
[13:30] hopes to transform bluecollar votes into
[13:32] a major upset. After a fast campaign
[13:36] swing through the Midwest yesterday,
[13:37] President Bush is counting on a pair of
[13:39] big victories today to blunt the
[13:41] faltering conservative challenge of
[13:43] Patrick Buchanan. But like Jerry Brown,
[13:45] Buchanan is hoping to keep his bid alive
[13:47] with a good showing in Michigan. New
[13:49] York City St. Patrick's Day parade steps
[13:51] up Fifth Avenue this morning without the
[13:53] gay group that had fought to join.
[13:55] Jacqueline Adams is standing by along
[13:57] the parade route this morning with more
[13:58] on the controversy. Jacqueline, good
[14:00] morning.
[14:01] >> Good morning, Paula. This year, the
[14:02] court said no. New York's Irish,
[14:05] lesbian, and gay organization could not
[14:07] force the Catholic fraternal group that
[14:09] runs the world's largest St. Patrick's
[14:11] Day parade to let them march.
[14:13] Nonetheless, as you said, a contingent
[14:14] of New York homosexuals does plan to
[14:16] strut down Fifth Avenue ahead of the
[14:19] traditional parade. Last night, angry
[14:21] but determined members of the Irish
[14:23] Lesbian and Gay Organization prepared
[14:25] for today's events. Their message is a
[14:28] simple one.
[14:29] >> We don't want to be on the margins of
[14:30] the Irish community. We want to be, you
[14:33] know, part of it. You can't stop people
[14:36] from marching or participating in the
[14:38] public life of the city because other
[14:40] people are angry at their existence and
[14:41] want to throw things at them. Last year,
[14:43] New York City Mayor David Dinkens did
[14:45] march with the gays and had things
[14:47] thrown at him. This year, though,
[14:49] because the gays aren't included,
[14:50] Dinkens and some 20 other politicians
[14:52] say they won't march.
[14:54] >> I think they're being foolish about it.
[14:56] Never one to dodge a fight, former mayor
[14:58] Edward Cotch thinks Dinkens and the
[14:59] other politicians are missing the point,
[15:01] choosing to support the gay community
[15:03] rather than their Irish Catholic
[15:05] constituents. I mean, would you want to
[15:07] have the Martin Luther King Day parade
[15:10] uh filled with marches who are uh
[15:13] members of the Ku Klux Clan? I wouldn't.
[15:16] >> Cootch alias Okch on this one particular
[15:19] day does plan to participate in the
[15:21] 231st annual St. Patrick's Day parade,
[15:24] but he and the millions of other
[15:26] participants and spectators will not be
[15:28] able to ignore the gays. New York's
[15:30] Irish, lesbian, and gay organization
[15:32] does plan to take up posts along the
[15:33] parade route to protest, and members of
[15:35] the more radical group Queer Nation have
[15:38] said that they plan to take some sort of
[15:40] action today that they expect will
[15:42] result in arrests. Paula.
[15:43] >> All right, Jacquellyn Adams reporting
[15:45] from along the parade route in New York
[15:47] City this morning. In the box office
[15:49] ratings, Wayne's World finished on top
[15:51] five for the fifth straight weekend. Gar
[15:53] and Wayne's Adventures brought in $ 8.4
[15:56] million last weekend, raising its
[15:58] earnings to date to more than $68
[16:00] million. It was followed by My Cousin
[16:02] Vinnie, which opened in second place.
[16:04] Rounding out the top five, Lawnmower
[16:06] Man, African Me, and Fried Green
[16:10] Tomatoes. That's the news 25 minutes
[16:12] before the hour. Okay, guys. What do you
[16:14] think of that list?
[16:14] >> Well, it would be American me.
[16:16] >> American me. What did I just say?
[16:17] >> That's the That's the Ed Almost movie. I
[16:19] saw that last week when we talked him.
[16:21] That is a very good movie. Very good
[16:23] movie.
[16:23] >> I want to see my cousin Denny.
[16:25] >> They say Joe Peshi's hysterical in it.
[16:27] >> Wayne's World.
[16:27] >> And your favorite Wayne's World?
[16:29] >> Well, there's a funny scene in Wayne's
[16:30] world. We're riding along in a pacer,
[16:32] which is a great car that I don't think
[16:33] anybody owns anymore. And they're
[16:35] singing to a Queen song, and all their
[16:37] heads are bobbing up and down. We never
[16:39] did that when we were growing up, did we
[16:40] hear it?
[16:41] >> Never. Ever. Ever. Ever. Now, who was on
[16:43] Saturday Night Live?
[16:45] >> Gar Brooks. They should have had Wayne's
[16:46] world with party Hardy Wayne Party Hardy
[16:48] Gar party. They could have had Wayne Gar
[16:50] and Gar. These guys I give it to them
[16:52] free on the air. They could use this
[16:54] stuff. Maybe they'll rebook Gar. Ah,
[16:57] yes. Who we waking up? Green Bay,
[16:59] Wisconsin. Partly cloudy, 25°. And you
[17:01] might ask me, why am I waking up? Hey,
[17:04] just because today's scene is green.
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[17:10] >> Thousands of people losing their jobs.
[17:12] Is there anything good you can say about
[17:14] times like these? Well, we asked our
[17:16] economics correspondent
[17:18] correspondent, which is
[17:22] right, catfish Robert Crowitch to join
[17:24] us this morning. Good morning.
[17:26] >> Some people, actually not people,
[17:28] economists really. Classical capitalist
[17:30] economists say that a recession cleanses
[17:33] the system. And you walk outdoors
[17:35] anywhere in the United States, you can
[17:36] see what they're talking about, see it
[17:38] happening.
[17:40] For example, this is 8th Street in
[17:42] Manhattan, and all 27 stores on this
[17:44] block are managed by Ron Brutder and his
[17:47] associates. Their specialty is turning
[17:50] around money losing real estate. So,
[17:52] somebody went bankrupt and all of the
[17:54] stores on this street in New York City
[17:56] had to be taken care of. Had to be
[17:59] managed somewhat intensively. Yes. So,
[18:01] you're the rent collector for all these
[18:02] places?
[18:03] >> Yes, we are.
[18:04] >> But rents aren't so easy to collect
[18:05] these days. Take the corner pizza store.
[18:08] >> Business is going down. Yes,
[18:10] >> definitely.
[18:10] >> This is very bad. We are 40% down.
[18:13] >> 40% down.
[18:15] >> 40% down. It's a big
[18:16] >> compared to last year or compared to
[18:17] when?
[18:18] >> Compared to last year.
[18:19] >> So rent, he says, has to come down. And
[18:22] we heard the same thing at the 8th
[18:23] Street Florists a few yards away.
[18:25] >> How is business
[18:27] >> right now?
[18:28] >> In the last
[18:30] the last uh 8 to 10 months, real bad.
[18:34] Terrible. How much off are you from a
[18:37] year ago at this time?
[18:40] >> 30 to 40%.
[18:42] >> Less business now.
[18:43] >> Less business.
[18:45] >> And the rent that you pay, can you pay
[18:47] the rent at this rate?
[18:49] >> Would you like to know?
[18:50] >> I'd like to know.
[18:51] >> Well, uh, I'm trying, but I'm behind
[18:54] right now. Few months.
[18:57] >> Yet. Ron Brutder says not everybody is
[19:00] in trouble.
[19:00] >> We're renegotiating this store right now
[19:02] to expand
[19:03] >> the barbecue. the barbecue. It's a
[19:05] wonderful business.
[19:06] >> Herb Watson's restaurant features this
[19:08] chicken plate for 2.95.
[19:10] >> 295 for a fairly hooky piece of chicken.
[19:12] >> Yep. That's a quarter of a chicken,
[19:14] quarter of a breast of a chicken,
[19:15] homemade French fries, and homemade
[19:18] cornbread.
[19:19] >> And at 295, he still makes a profit.
[19:21] >> This cost us about 60.
[19:24] >> And this this cost us about 30 cents.
[19:26] >> And this
[19:27] >> about 25 cent. So it cost us about a
[19:29] dollar to a$120 for the dish. And
[19:32] because his menu is almost designed for
[19:35] a recession, he can pay the rent.
[19:37] >> Oh yes. Yeah, we pay the rent. We like
[19:38] to pay the rent the first of the month.
[19:40] >> Recessions make it very clear who's good
[19:42] at business and who's just getting by.
[19:45] And for Wall Street investors, that's
[19:47] why this is the perfect time to buy up
[19:49] stores and malls.
[19:51] >> Are we walking down an attractive
[19:53] property from the point of view of
[19:55] financiers? Are there people who would
[19:56] see this and come to the bankruptcy
[19:58] court and say, "I want to buy it."
[20:00] >> Yes. Yes.
[20:01] >> Absolutely. Definitely without a moment
[20:02] hesitation
[20:04] >> because if someone like Ron Brutder can
[20:06] buy a block of stores for next to
[20:07] nothing, put in some new strong tenants,
[20:11] once the recovery begins, he will have a
[20:13] much healthier property worth 2, three,
[20:15] four times what he paid. This is an
[20:17] excellent time to be a buyer.
[20:19] >> And investors all over the world are
[20:21] signing up for distressed real estate
[20:22] investment funds like Bruters, even
[20:24] though they are called vulture funds.
[20:27] Why vulture?
[20:28] >> Well, you've heard the expression No,
[20:33] never more than twice, three times a day
[20:35] because they feed on other people's
[20:38] problems, which is sad.
[20:41] >> Does it make you feel uncomfortable?
[20:43] >> No, because I believe that what we're
[20:46] doing in the overall scheme of things
[20:48] has social good to it.
[20:50] >> In the rough and tumble of capitalism,
[20:52] good businesses like the barbecue
[20:54] survive. while on the very same block at
[20:56] this card shop. Now I'm paying about 70%
[20:59] of the my uh regular rent
[21:02] >> and the landlord that's okay with the
[21:04] landlord.
[21:04] >> No,
[21:05] >> I got a I got a court next month, you
[21:08] know. So he's off the court and along
[21:11] with the florist and the pizza man, he
[21:13] may not make it.
[21:14] >> Some of them may hit the streets
[21:16] inevitably.
[21:17] >> I suspect that some of them definitely
[21:19] will hit the streets inevitably. Yes. As
[21:22] hard as that sounds for the card man and
[21:24] the flower man and the pizza man, Ron
[21:27] Brutder insists in the end, if
[21:29] capitalism is doing the right thing, the
[21:31] block will be better off.
[21:32] >> Maybe uh two years from now, stronger
[21:35] businesses, if he picks him right, more
[21:37] jobs, stronger block.
[21:39] >> Isn't that really the question though?
[21:40] Because there's with the other
[21:42] businesses there isn't the barbecue man
[21:47] that Prince Andrew and his wife Fergie
[21:49] are about to divorce. Buckingham Palace
[21:51] spokesman are refusing comment on a
[21:53] tabloid report that Andrew and the
[21:55] Duchess of York are ready to announce
[21:56] their separation. The Daily Mail
[21:58] newspaper says the Queen's lawyer and
[22:00] others discussed legal issues with the
[22:02] couple last Sunday. Andrew and the
[22:04] former Sarah Ferguson married at
[22:05] Westminster Abbey in 1986. They have two
[22:08] children. Let's hope it's just the
[22:09] tabloids. I'm sure Heraldo or Mory will
[22:12] set us straight on that in the coming
[22:14] week.
[22:14] >> In Michigan and Illinois, a big win for
[22:17] President Bush. He says it all but wraps
[22:18] up the nomination for him. And Clinton
[22:20] is the winner at this point, but he
[22:22] doesn't have enough votes yet to get the
[22:23] nomination.
[22:24] >> We'll have more on that tonight at
[22:25] 11:00.
[22:26] >> See you then.