Hardball (MSNBC) - 2002-10-03 - 2 of 2

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[0:00] legislature does. And in this case, the

[0:02] legislature said it in absolutely

[0:04] unambiguous terms.

[0:08] >> I heard this. Go ahead.

[0:09] >> I heard this. I'm sorry. Go ahead, Mr.

[0:11] CBY.

[0:12] >> Well, I mean, come on. That's You're

[0:14] talking about a case two years ago where

[0:16] the people of Florida, the people of the

[0:18] country had a choice. Two different

[0:20] candidates. That kind of case is not

[0:22] going to be applied to say that that

[0:25] courts can eliminate a choice for the

[0:27] voters of New Jersey. And let's focus on

[0:29] something else that I think is extremely

[0:31] important here. If we get into a

[0:33] situation where the system starts to be

[0:35] manipulated, that is something where the

[0:37] courts may intercede. But the New Jersey

[0:39] Supreme Court clearly decided that

[0:41] nothing of the kind is happening, that

[0:43] Toriselli was out, he wanted out, and

[0:45] that the people of New Jersey have a

[0:47] voice. The other concern is, do we

[0:49] really want courts getting in and

[0:51] effectively calling the game before the

[0:54] teams even show up on the field? in

[0:56] effect saying only one team gets to play

[0:58] in the Super Bowl.

[0:59] >> It seems to me that Mr. Torcelli knew

[1:00] that the court would rule this way.

[1:02] That's why he dropped himself from the

[1:03] ticket. In other words, he created the

[1:04] vacancy knowing this would be filled in

[1:06] in a manipulative fashion. He was the

[1:08] chief manipulator, wasn't he, Mr.

[1:10] Coffee?

[1:10] >> I don't think so. I think if had wanted

[1:12] to truly manipulate this, he could have

[1:14] resigned his position in the Senate

[1:16] immediately. Democrat appoints another

[1:18] Democrat and as I understand the

[1:20] scenar

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