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[0:24] >> Did you know?

[0:27] To understand a story this important,

[0:29] you have to be there. Tucker Carlson

[0:31] live from the Middle East. All this week

[0:33] at 6 on MSNBC.

[0:38] >> Americans, 25,000 of them are still

[0:41] waiting here. Many say they're not being

[0:43] kept informed by the embassy.

[0:44] >> It seems like we should be at least

[0:46] getting um just something of an update

[0:49] um each day.

[0:51] >> Evacuation efforts in Lebanon are

[0:54] finally in full swing at this hour. So

[0:56] far, the US has evacuated more than 200

[0:58] of its citizens, but is hoping to get

[1:00] 2,000 out tomorrow. Israel held fire in

[1:04] Beirut for a time while Americans and

[1:06] others escaped the war zone. NBC's

[1:09] Beirut Bureau Chief Richard Angel has

[1:11] the story.

[1:14] Four Marine choppers lifted 120

[1:17] humanitarian cases out of Beirut,

[1:20] including women with small children and

[1:22] Americans needing medication. At

[1:24] Beirut's main port, a huge Norwegian

[1:26] transporter was diverted to give 1,000

[1:29] Europeans and 136 US college students

[1:33] safe passage to Cyprus. American

[1:36] officials say up to 2400 more Americans

[1:39] could be evacuated tomorrow.

[1:41] >> We will continue facilitating Americans

[1:43] to leave as long as we need to do so.

[1:45] >> Leaving today, 21-year-old Lizzie

[1:47] Colmia. We met her last week trapped in

[1:50] her dorm complaining about the slow

[1:52] American response. Everything's blocked.

[1:54] We're here

[1:54] >> today.

[1:55] >> I'm smiling. Yeah. I mean, we're about

[1:56] to go home.

[1:57] >> As the Americans left, Israel held its

[2:00] fire in Beirut for the first time in a

[2:03] week, but stepped up attacks elsewhere

[2:06] on trucks loaded with Hezbollah's

[2:08] weapons,

[2:09] in tier, near the Israeli border,

[2:12] and in nearby Itun, killing five members

[2:15] of a family. Another Israeli attack

[2:18] killed 10 Lebanese soldiers on an army

[2:20] base. They're not supposed to be targets

[2:22] either. For most Lebanese, there's no

[2:25] help to escape the fighting. Yesterday,

[2:27] a fivestory building stood here. As this

[2:30] war continues, entire sections of South

[2:32] Beirut are being reduced to chunks of

[2:35] concrete and burning debris. Ahmed Hmani

[2:38] took advantage of the lull in air

[2:40] strikes in Beirut to inspect his

[2:42] hardware store.

[2:44] >> The Israelis haven't left anything, he

[2:46] said. Humani is waiting it out. So are

[2:50] 65,000 from South Lebanon now living in

[2:53] emergency shelters. They escaped to

[2:56] Beirut for its relative safety.

[2:59] >> NBC's Richard Angel in Beirut.

[3:01] Meanwhile, foreigners are not just

[3:02] getting out of Lebanon by sea and by

[3:04] air, but also by road. NBC's Carrie

[3:07] Sanders has more from the highway to

[3:10] Damascus and safety.

[3:13] >> It's a race to the border, but the

[3:15] exodus north from Lebanon is not easy.

[3:20] In some cases, police escort the buses

[3:22] on the single road out that has not been

[3:25] bombed.

[3:26] >> It is terrible. My husband doesn't know

[3:28] where I am. My my embassy didn't do

[3:31] anything for me.

[3:32] >> Rhonda Campbell, a Canadian, and her

[3:34] 7-year-old daughter Shantel made it out

[3:37] today. It's estimated 400 people an hour

[3:40] are crossing into Syria.

[3:41] >> Two days we've been waiting two nights.

[3:44] We we we still didn't eat. It's very bad

[3:46] what they're doing to this country.

[3:49] >> Raising the anxiety of those refugees as

[3:51] they head north. Scenes like this. This

[3:54] was a military headquarters taken out by

[3:56] Israeli F-16s 2 days ago.

[4:00] >> Syria is overwhelmed by refugees.

[4:02] Thousands like the nine member Salah

[4:04] family arrived with luggage in hand but

[4:07] nowhere to stay. Hotel rooms are scarce.

[4:11] Meanwhile, in Lebanon tonight, fear

[4:14] Israel will target mountain tunnels,

[4:16] effectively cutting off the only land

[4:19] route out. Carrie Sanders, NBC News,

[4:22] Tripoli, Lebanon.

[4:24] >> Thanks, Kian. And with thousands of

[4:25] Americans expected in Cyprus in the next

[4:27] few days, the government there is

[4:29] helping to set up a facility to get them

[4:31] back home safely. NBC News has also

[4:34] learned that those evacuees will now not

[4:37] be charged for their travel expenses

[4:40] after all. NBC's Don Frangelo joins me

[4:42] from Larnica, Cypress with the latest

[4:45] details. Dawn,

[4:47] >> it's quiet here now, but this port in

[4:50] Cypress is about to become a very busy

[4:52] safe haven for thousands of people,

[4:54] including the estimated 8,000 Americans

[4:56] who want to leave Lebanon. Already,

[4:59] hundreds have been arriving here over

[5:01] the past few days. Citizens from Italy,

[5:03] from France, from Greece. that has

[5:06] frustrated some Americans who are still

[5:08] in Lebanon and are complaining about the

[5:11] slow pace of their evacuation. That

[5:14] operation is to begin in earnest

[5:16] tomorrow, including help from a cruise

[5:20] ship, the Orient Queen, hired by the

[5:22] Pentagon, which can carry 750 passengers

[5:25] at a time. The US Embassy in Beirut is

[5:28] saying that by the end of the week, it

[5:30] expects to be fing about a thousand

[5:32] Americans a day. Tomorrow they expect

[5:36] that they could perhaps transport as

[5:38] many as 2400 Americans. Getting here is

[5:41] one thing. When they reach Cyprus, all

[5:44] of these folks from various countries

[5:46] will have to be processed. And there are

[5:49] task force arriving here from different

[5:51] countries. Their job to process these

[5:54] people, then figure out where they go

[5:56] and how they get here. A very busy few

[6:00] days ahead for this main port in Cyprus.

[6:03] Don Fangelo, NBC News, Larnica, Cyprus.

[6:06] >> Don, thanks so much. Meanwhile, Sarah

[6:09] Amadia is a 27-year-old teacher from

[6:11] Hawaii who went to Lebanon on a holiday

[6:14] of all things and is experiencing a

[6:16] vacation now from hell. She joins us now

[6:19] by phone from outside Beirut where she's

[6:21] hunkering down with family and friends.

[6:23] Sarah, I understand in the last little

[6:24] bit you got some news that you might be

[6:26] leaving Lebanon shortly. What have you

[6:28] learned?

[6:30] Yes, we've gotten confirmation that as

[6:32] of 100 p.m. um Beirut time today, um we

[6:36] will be evacuating. We need to report to

[6:39] the let's see, it's a Lebanese army base

[6:42] that's right near the American embassy

[6:44] and then they will be transporting us

[6:47] from there to the boat where we will go

[6:49] to Cyprus today.

[6:51] >> How eager are you to leave and what have

[6:53] you been experiencing the last few days?

[6:56] Um, I'm very eager to leave. Um, at the

[7:00] same time, I'm very hesitant. Um, both

[7:02] because I'm scared and also I'm hesitant

[7:03] to leave my family. We've got really,

[7:05] really wonderful family here, aunts and

[7:07] uncles and cousins. Um, and in the last

[7:10] few days, I've had my entire world

[7:13] turned upside down. I'm from a very,

[7:14] very small town in Hawaii, uh, where I

[7:17] know everybody by sight and we complain

[7:19] about how boring it is. And in the last

[7:22] few days, um, we actually had to

[7:23] evacuate the other town that we were

[7:25] staying in because there were bombs

[7:27] dropped about 500 yd away from the

[7:28] house. Um, so to experience something

[7:31] like that has been absolutely

[7:33] life-changing to say the least.

[7:34] >> You know, you told our producer that the

[7:36] US embassy has not been helpful to you.

[7:39] Has that been frustrating to you?

[7:42] >> Oh, it absolutely has been frustrating.

[7:44] I mean, even as late as Friday, which is

[7:46] was um I believe 2 days after the

[7:48] bombing started, I was calling after our

[7:51] house had just been hit with bombs, um

[7:54] and asking for help saying, you know,

[7:56] how are you going to get us out of here?

[7:58] One woman said, "Evacuation plan? What

[8:00] evacuation plan? You're stuck here.

[8:02] Haven't you seen the news?" Um someone

[8:05] else that I got a hold of the next day

[8:07] said to keep checking the website even

[8:09] though Lebanon had been without

[8:10] electricity for 24 hours. I mean, the

[8:14] comments I've been getting from there

[8:15] have been absolutely ludicrous. I was

[8:16] even blamed for coming to Lebanon in the

[8:18] first place because I should have known

[8:20] better.

[8:20] >> Yeah. You know, what do you say to these

[8:22] US officials, you know, and also all

[8:24] these other countries have seem to have

[8:26] been able to get in there a lot sooner

[8:27] and get their folks out?

[8:30] >> I don't know what to say to them except

[8:32] that they have to be better prepared and

[8:35] they have to do a better job in

[8:36] situations such as this. I was lucky,

[8:39] but um I really, really, really did.

[8:42] escaped death by literally yards. And

[8:46] this is just unconscionable because had

[8:48] they acted sooner, we could have been in

[8:50] a safer place than where we were.

[8:51] >> Sarah, safe travels. Thank you very much

[8:53] for being with us. Hours away from

[8:55] leaving Lebanon, an American. Thank you

[8:57] very much. And coming up, everybody, we

[8:59] saw one woman in Hifa learning of her

[9:02] husband's horrible fate. Up next, NBC's

[9:04] Martin Fletcher and Richard Angel talk

[9:06] with Brian Williams about the difficult

[9:08] images they have seen firsthand. And war

[9:11] not only tears buildings apart, but as

[9:13] you just heard, families, too. How are

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[12:41] >> I'm Bill Fitzgerald. Here's what's

[12:42] happening. The Associated Press

[12:44] reporting the Israeli military saying a

[12:46] small number of troops have now entered

[12:47] southern Lebanon, searching for tunnels

[12:49] and mines. Israel declaring it is ready

[12:51] to fight Hezbollah guerillas for several

[12:53] more weeks. A Scandinavian ship carrying

[12:55] Americans evacuating Lebanon arrived in

[12:57] Cyprus tonight. More ships are set to

[13:00] evacuate thousands of others Wednesday.

[13:02] An air traffic control center servicing

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[13:35] now to the MSNBC special M East Crisis.

[13:45] And breaking news tonight out of the

[13:46] Middle East. As you just heard, the

[13:48] Associated Press is reporting that a

[13:50] small number of Israeli troops have

[13:52] entered southern Lebanon searching for

[13:54] tunnels and mines. We're joined now on

[13:57] the phone by Dan Gilman. He's the

[13:58] Israeli ambassador to the United

[14:01] Nations. Ambassador Gilman, what can you

[14:02] tell us about these tunnels and mines

[14:04] that are being targeted?

[14:06] >> Good evening, Rita. Uh what what we're

[14:08] seeing is a very limited uh incursion

[14:12] into southern Lebanon. This is no

[14:14] invasion and this is no occupation. This

[14:16] is a foray uh into southern Lebanon in

[14:20] order to try and uh destroy some

[14:23] outposts, try and detect some mines and

[14:27] uh tunnels which are used by the in

[14:31] order to infiltrate Israel in order to

[14:34] uh mine our northern border. So this is

[14:37] a limited operation. This does not

[14:39] signify any beginning of an invasion or

[14:41] any ground serious ground activity in

[14:45] southern Lebanon.

[14:46] >> You know, ambassador, could we see more

[14:48] of these types of incursions in the

[14:50] future?

[14:51] >> Uh, we could see more of these types. We

[14:54] could see more of a lot of things. I

[14:56] mean, Israel has a very large array of

[15:00] uh things and capabilities. We have not

[15:03] displayed all of them and we have not

[15:05] used all of them. We're using uh

[15:07] different techniques and different

[15:09] measures as they uh are necessary in our

[15:13] fight in order to destroy the capability

[15:16] ofaha. Make it incapable of firing

[15:19] rockets into our towns and villages and

[15:21] killing our civilians. And uh our

[15:24] ultimate aim is to makeah totally

[15:27] incapable of being the terrorizing

[15:30] movement which has terrorized not just

[15:33] Israel but Lebanon and is the root cause

[15:36] of all the trouble and all the suffering

[15:39] which Lebanon is undergoing at the

[15:41] moment.

[15:42] >> What kind of an impact do you think so

[15:44] far uh the Israeli government your

[15:46] government has had on Hezbollah? Uh what

[15:48] you know percentage-wise? I mean how

[15:50] much down and out are they?

[15:52] I I cannot really put a percentage on it

[15:54] but I can tell you that we have

[15:56] destroyed a significant uh percentage of

[16:00] capability. We are hitting where it

[16:04] hurts in the logistics and the

[16:06] headquarters in uh their capabilities

[16:09] and uh I

[16:12] venture to uh to say that uh Hassan is

[16:16] very very sorry today that he started

[16:18] this. I think he grossly miscalculated.

[16:22] He did not realize that Israel would

[16:24] react the way he did. But we had no

[16:26] choice but to do it because this was an

[16:28] act of war on the part of Kisbalah

[16:31] emanating from Lebanon from an area

[16:33] which we have totally withdrawn for over

[16:36] 6 years ago. An area which the

[16:38] international community has demanded

[16:41] that Lebanon free of the strangle hold

[16:43] ofbalah. Kzbalah has been holding

[16:45] Lebanon hostage for years. Lebanon has

[16:49] been pilfered and raped by tyrants in

[16:52] the north Syria and by terrorists in the

[16:54] southbah.

[16:56] And I think that if we succeed in what

[16:59] we intend to do and what we're doing

[17:02] today is only part of it. At the end of

[17:05] the day, not only Israel will be safer,

[17:07] but Lebanon will be free. And that will

[17:09] be a very important message, not just to

[17:11] us, but to the whole region and to the

[17:13] whole world. You know, Ambassador, we're

[17:14] hearing that uh Israeli army

[17:16] representatives are refusing to rule out

[17:18] a massive ground invasion of southern

[17:20] Lebanon. Uh we're getting sort of mixed

[17:22] messages. Uh Shimone Perez was saying

[17:25] that he doesn't see sort of a sustained

[17:27] effort like that. Um can you say tonight

[17:30] that there will or will not be ground

[17:32] troops going in?

[17:33] >> No, I I cannot say uh whether there will

[17:36] or will not be. All I can say is that

[17:38] Israel has absolutely no intention of

[17:40] invading Lebanon, of occupying Lebanon.

[17:43] We have no fight with the Lebanese

[17:44] people. We have no quarrel with the

[17:46] Lebanese government, although we see it

[17:48] responsible for what happened last week.

[17:50] We left Lebanon with no intention

[17:53] whatsoever of ever returning there. And

[17:56] uh therefore, I do not see Israel

[17:58] occupying Lebanon.

[18:00] >> Does does that ambassador, what does

[18:01] that mean in terms of, you know, a major

[18:03] force going in? We talked about a small

[18:04] force going in tonight. And again,

[18:06] everybody, if you're just tuning in,

[18:07] small number of Israeli troops entering

[18:09] southern Lebanon, as we just heard from

[18:11] the ambassador, hitting Hezbollah

[18:12] tunnels and mines in southern Lebanon.

[18:15] Uh, but Ambassador Dan Gilman, the

[18:16] Israeli ambassador to the UN, real

[18:18] briefly, can you rule out that there may

[18:20] not be a larger force going in at some

[18:22] point soon?

[18:24] >> Well, I I cannot rule anything out, but

[18:27] all I'm saying is that we have no

[18:29] intention of invading Lebanon. We have

[18:31] no intention of occupying Lebanon. We

[18:34] will however do whatever it takes and

[18:36] whatever is necessary in order to break

[18:38] the back of his in order to disarm it,

[18:41] in order to make it totally incapable of

[18:44] terrorizing either us or the Lebanese

[18:47] people any longer. And whatever it takes

[18:50] and however long it takes, we will do

[18:52] it.

[18:53] >> Ambassador Dan Gilman, my friend, we

[18:54] appreciate you being with us. Thank you

[18:56] so much. And everybody, coming up, a

[18:58] look at the human toll of this invasion.

[19:00] A heartbreaking moment caught by our

[19:03] cameras. Stay with us.

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[22:48] As you can see, just hours after Israel,

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[23:07] of the human toll of this conflict.

[23:09] Here's NBC's Martin Fletcher, who was

[23:11] caught right in the middle of the

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[23:19] >> They want to kill us." 11-year-old Tal

[23:21] says his sister Mkal feels safe here.

[23:25] But as we left,

[23:27] panic new rocket attacks all around us.

[23:32] >> Kush, she shouts. Bombs.

[23:36] >> Where are my children? SHE CRIES.

[23:41] A MAN POINTS TO THE smoke and we run

[23:43] there.

[23:45] >> Half a mile past another bomb shelter.

[23:49] >> More frightened people pointing the way.

[23:52] >> When we get there, cars are destroyed.

[23:55] Gasoline flowing down the street,

[23:57] burning embers.

[23:59] Careful, careful, careful.

[24:02] >> Live electric cables on the ground.

[24:04] Water manes broken. Deadly combinations.

[24:07] The Kacha rocket with its 50 lb warhead

[24:10] made only a small hole in the ground

[24:14] but spread terror.

[24:17] A man is in shock. Then close by a

[24:20] second rocket but nobody was wounded

[24:22] either time.

[24:24] >> The house here has been hit by a rocket

[24:26] but everybody was inside the bomb

[24:28] shelter here. And then a third rocket.

[24:31] Terror on the home front. We run another

[24:34] half a mile.

[24:36] A quick response can save lives, but for

[24:39] all three bombs, we got there before the

[24:41] ambulances. This man had no chance. A

[24:44] direct hit.

[24:46] >> They're just waiting for the ambulance

[24:47] to arrive. Yet again, right next to a

[24:50] bomb shelter, most people were inside

[24:52] and that's how they stayed safe. But

[24:54] this man clearly was in the wrong place

[24:56] at the wrong time.

[25:00] >> At the shelter, this lady is desperate.

[25:02] "Where are you? Where are you?" she

[25:04] cries. The man explains she's lost her

[25:06] husband. The woman tries to call him,

[25:09] then

[25:12] everyone hears a phone ring.

[25:15] >> It's by the dead body.

[25:19] >> Incredible story from Martin Fletcher.

[25:20] Thanks so much. Also today, NBC Nightly

[25:24] News anchor Brian Williams flew

[25:26] exclusively with the Israeli military

[25:28] and he got an eyeopening and very

[25:30] dangerous look at the fighting

[25:31] firsthand. In a Blackhawk helicopter at

[25:34] 1500 ft, we are flying over the

[25:37] northernmost part of Israel. With us is

[25:39] a highranking general in the Israeli

[25:41] Defense Forces.

[25:44] Over the constant air traffic chatter in

[25:47] Hebrew, we learn there is activity on

[25:49] the ground right below us.

[25:54] >> Right now,

[25:56] we're going to try and look for it.

[25:59] >> Okay.

[26:04] >> Going to be on the right hand side.

[26:07] >> The trails of smoke and dust visible out

[26:09] the window are where Koutia rockets have

[26:12] landed. In this case, in the uninhabited

[26:14] Israeli countryside, and in some cases,

[26:17] they have set fire to the surrounding

[26:19] brush.

[26:20] The missiles are unguided and random and

[26:23] plentiful. Then I noticed something out

[26:26] the window.

[26:27] >> There's a launch trail right there. I

[26:29] saw the launch.

[26:30] >> From a distance of 6 mi, I witnessed a

[26:33] rocket launch, a rising trail of smoke,

[26:35] then a second launch, an orange flash,

[26:37] and more smoke as a rocket heads off

[26:40] toward Israel. Our tour by air ended on

[26:43] the ground in Hifa, but in a low-lying

[26:46] and vulnerable part of the city. Our

[26:48] drive to the safety of the surrounding

[26:50] mountain is interrupted by the sound of

[26:53] sirens. We are in Hifa. The air raid

[26:55] sirens have just sounded. Generally,

[26:57] that means we have 60 seconds to seek

[27:00] shelter.

[27:01] We have chosen a high-rise apartment

[27:03] building at random and are directed down

[27:05] several flights of stairs to a bomb

[27:07] shelter. All the while waiting to feel

[27:10] or hear something signaling possible

[27:13] impact.

[27:13] >> On our way down the stairs, we felt a

[27:16] deep but far off concussion of uh what

[27:20] has become known as a hit or missile

[27:23] strike here in Hifa.

[27:24] >> After the all clear, we again venture

[27:26] out into the empty streets. This is an

[27:29] unusual site in a city of a half a

[27:32] million people. The city of Hifa, a

[27:34] major thoroughare with no cars. Most of

[27:36] these buildings are empty. But over here

[27:39] is the view the Israelis are most

[27:41] worried about. Down in the port section

[27:43] of the city, the prochemical plant and

[27:45] the fuel storage tanks. Hifa is a

[27:48] battleground in a random war. Those who

[27:51] remain behind here have decided to play

[27:54] the odds.

[27:56] >> Brian Williams, thank you. And when we

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[31:57] >> Rita, good evening. And first off

[31:59] tonight finds us in the northern Israeli

[32:01] port city of Hifa. The port of Hifa in

[32:04] fact is behind us right over our

[32:07] shoulder. Two distinctions with this

[32:09] location. Number one, it is vulnerable

[32:12] and valuable to the Israelis and they

[32:15] worry each day in this random missile

[32:18] war that the prochemical plant and fuel

[32:21] storage tanks among other targets over

[32:24] our shoulder here will be hit. Number

[32:27] two, it is close enough to this back and

[32:30] forth air war being fought that uh

[32:32] tonight, in fact during our

[32:34] conversation, we can hear the far off

[32:36] and and feel the faroff concussions of

[32:39] either uh air strikes or artillery

[32:42] firing of some sort. Uh we want to have

[32:45] a conversation with the two

[32:47] correspondents who've worked whose work

[32:49] you've seen again tonight from this

[32:51] region in Beirut, Lebanon. And after

[32:53] all, Lebanon has taken so much of the

[32:55] pounding in this fight is correspondent

[32:58] Richard Angel. He's standing by there

[33:00] for us. And with me here uh is Martin

[33:03] Fletcher. And and Martin, after your

[33:05] reporting today, the the question really

[33:07] is about randomness. You've covered so

[33:10] much of the armed conflict here over the

[33:12] years. I know your camera crew were

[33:14] veterans today. They were shaken by what

[33:17] you saw. This is really something else

[33:18] entirely.

[33:19] >> We were trembling today. Actually,

[33:21] [clears throat] there was so so many

[33:22] rockets foring around us. There was

[33:24] there were three within about a half

[33:26] mile. 14 fell in that area where we

[33:28] were. Three at the time we were there

[33:30] and then there was a fourth one

[33:31] suddenly. And it it was shocking apart

[33:34] from the fact that there was a dead

[33:35] body, you know, yards away with a a

[33:37] decapitated head here, a hand there. We

[33:40] were trembling, you know, and at a

[33:41] certain point um when the fourth rocket

[33:46] fell and when they started pushing

[33:48] everybody back inside the bombshell and

[33:50] say get in, get in quick. We hear the

[33:52] planes over us now. They're on their way

[33:53] to Lebanon. It's the war planes. They'll

[33:55] be coming back, reloading, going back.

[33:56] There just bangs and rumbles and roars

[33:59] and thuds and rockets all the time. It

[34:01] makes you

[34:02] >> It does make you nervous in the end.

[34:04] >> Yeah, that's right. And and Richard,

[34:05] that brings us to you because it's

[34:07] probably the afterburner from an F-16.

[34:09] We can hear that you may be hearing a

[34:11] few moments after us. With the non-stop

[34:14] air activity and with the non-stop tempo

[34:17] of the fight where you are, what's your

[34:19] freedom of movement like? We're we're

[34:22] having an issue getting both sides of

[34:24] this out. We have uh entities like the

[34:27] Israeli Defense Forces to uh help us get

[34:30] out and cover this story. What is your

[34:32] uh freedom to go out and and gather

[34:35] pictures and sound?

[34:40] There is no restrictions from the

[34:41] government of any kind. You can go where

[34:44] you you like. The main concerns now are

[34:46] for safety. Going into South Beirut, for

[34:49] example, an area controlled effectively

[34:51] by Hezbollah, is a very difficult and

[34:54] dangerous undertaking. They're very

[34:56] nervous, let alone the fact the the

[34:58] neighborhood is constantly being shelled

[35:00] and and attacked by Israel. So, aside

[35:02] from the danger of something falling and

[35:04] exploding from the sky, there's also the

[35:06] danger that Hezbollah being the

[35:09] organization that it is will take you

[35:11] and and interrogate you and detain you

[35:13] in one of their facilities. So, you need

[35:15] to coordinate with them and try and use

[35:18] local fixers who have contacts with the

[35:20] organization when venturing into their

[35:22] neighborhoods. Also difficult now is

[35:25] going into South Lebanon, another

[35:27] Hezbollah stronghold. Many of the roads

[35:29] have been cut off. And then there is the

[35:31] the the fact that you don't know when

[35:33] the next air strike is going to be or

[35:35] where it will going to where when it's

[35:36] going to happen or where it is going to

[35:38] be. Just today there had been a lull in

[35:40] the air strikes as the evacuation of

[35:42] Americans was underway. But then just

[35:45] hours after the ship left carrying

[35:48] Americans, the air strikes resumed here

[35:50] on Beirut. And tonight there have been

[35:52] some uh three very significant air

[35:54] strikes and uh sending us uh to the

[35:57] ground here at the live position where

[35:58] we're reporting overlooking the city.

[36:02] And uh Martin, speaking of of warning

[36:05] here, we had our own encounters with uh

[36:08] incoming rockets today and it really did

[36:10] seem to time out. We heard the siren. It

[36:13] was about 60 seconds later that we heard

[36:15] an impact. Has that been your

[36:16] experience?

[36:17] >> Well, yeah. I mean, well, here in Hifa,

[36:19] there's sirens. In Naharia, there's no

[36:21] sirens because it's that much closer to

[36:22] the border. So, the whole northern um

[36:24] all the towns in the north north of

[36:26] Israel get no warning at all. It's just

[36:27] a boom and that's it. And in Nahar, the

[36:30] same because we're a bit further south,

[36:31] about 21 mi from the border. So, now

[36:33] there is time for a siren, but it's a

[36:35] very brief siren, as you found out. It's

[36:37] about 60 seconds maximum. Uh not always

[36:40] as not always as much as that. Uh that's

[36:42] that's not really that's if you're very

[36:44] that's why the Israelis say the they've

[36:46] been told stay in your bomb shelters or

[36:48] stay very close to a safe place. If

[36:50] you're not safe to if you're not close

[36:52] to somewhere you won't get away. There's

[36:54] nowhere to run or to hide. And and

[36:56] Richard, all these pictures we keep

[36:57] seeing from Lebanon. It's worth

[36:59] discussing again tonight. Is there a way

[37:01] to put a percentage on infrastructure

[37:05] destroyed? It was you know often often

[37:08] called the Paris of this region. I need

[37:10] not tell you, but uh uh so proud and

[37:14] gleaming were they uh after the uh the

[37:16] refurbishing of all those buildings lost

[37:20] in the last big conflict. What's been

[37:22] lost? Is there any way to take a large

[37:24] accounting of it?

[37:26] >> It is still happening right now. So any

[37:28] accounts done are going to be outdated

[37:30] quickly. There's been uh according to

[37:32] the the prime minister more than 50

[37:35] bridges that have been destroyed. There

[37:36] have been half a dozen factories in this

[37:39] city. Most of the major highways have

[37:41] been attacked. There have been uh

[37:44] hospitals that have been damaged. So

[37:46] it's uh there is no price tag put onto

[37:48] it right now as this is happening on a

[37:50] on a hourby-hour basis. But according to

[37:53] the prime minister, this country's

[37:54] infrastructure, he said, has been set

[37:56] back 50 years.

[37:59] And Martin, that part of the Israeli air

[38:01] campaign surprised a lot of people,

[38:03] particularly across the Atlantic and the

[38:06] United States. The bombing of the

[38:07] bridges, the highways in and out. Those

[38:10] were some big investments, some major

[38:12] pieces of infrastructure that were gone

[38:15] in an instant now and and and and will

[38:17] be out for the foreseeable future.

[38:20] >> Sure. And don't forget that Lebanon was

[38:22] [clears throat] just rebuilding itself

[38:23] from the civil war in the 1970s.

[38:25] everything we everything all the bridges

[38:26] that were destroyed and the

[38:27] infrastructure was carefully planned and

[38:29] put into place that was replacing stuff

[38:31] that was destroyed in the 70s. So

[38:34] putting Lebanon back 50 years well

[38:36] they're still trying to catch up with

[38:37] where they were 30 years ago.

[38:39] >> And that's an example of in this fight

[38:42] Israel by retaliating for the missiles

[38:45] is not just killing the enemy. U we've

[38:48] seen the casualty count from inside

[38:50] Lebanon

[38:51] >> and Israel is very concerned about that.

[38:52] the their leaders keep saying that the

[38:54] Lebanese people, the the government of

[38:56] Lebanon is not their enemy. In fact, the

[38:58] Lebanese government is anti-Syrian is

[38:59] and is very pro- Western. So, as a

[39:01] matter of fact, Israel could easily

[39:02] develop a good relationship with that

[39:04] government, but after this this

[39:05] extraordinary damage that Israel is

[39:07] doing to the infrastructure of Lebanon,

[39:09] well, it's it's hard to imagine how that

[39:11] relationship would ever be built on a on

[39:13] the basis of trust again.

[39:14] >> And Richard, back to you for a final

[39:16] question. As you know, we saw the the

[39:18] kind of end result of these Kushia

[39:20] launches today. extraordinary. 1500 ft

[39:24] on the deck underneath our moving

[39:26] helicopter. Very random lighting the

[39:28] brush on fire where they would uh land

[39:31] and and kind of self-destruct. But it is

[39:34] said the estimate between 10 and 14,000

[39:38] stockpile. That could take a long long

[39:41] time to exhaust. That is certainly the

[39:44] case. And then there's also the estimate

[39:46] that they have about 30 or 40 of these

[39:49] very long range rockets. One of which

[39:51] was there was an attempted firing from a

[39:54] place not far from here yesterday that

[39:56] could carry a payload of about 1,200 lb

[40:00] and travel 60 miles far enough to go to

[40:03] Tel Aviv. So it's not just the enormous

[40:05] quantities of the stockpiles of Kushias

[40:08] which are are much smaller and have a

[40:09] much more limited range, but there are

[40:11] these additional missiles that could

[40:13] have a much more strategic importance

[40:15] and and and and effectively land in in

[40:18] Israel's most important city. Our thanks

[40:21] to Richard Angel, our correspondent in

[40:24] Beirut. Martin Fletcher here with us uh

[40:26] in Israel. And that is our roundup of

[40:30] this day seven of the conflict from this

[40:33] region. Rita, back to you.

[40:34] >> And Brian, thank you so much. Everybody,

[40:36] coming up, what is it like for one

[40:38] family in Beirut waiting to leave but

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[43:10] [music] Reququip.

[43:13] Ask your doctor if Recquip can help

[43:15] [music] put your RLS to rest.

[43:21] And tonight, thousands of British

[43:23] citizens are still waiting to get out of

[43:25] the war tour in city of Beirut. Philip

[43:28] Ray Smith of our partner ITN sat down

[43:30] with one family that is playing the

[43:32] waiting game in wartime as they are held

[43:35] up in their own home tonight afraid to

[43:38] leave.

[43:40] >> Outside there may be a war going on but

[43:42] at the Naylor household family life has

[43:45] to continue. They don't have much

[43:47] choice. They've been told simply to stay

[43:49] inside.

[43:50] >> We hear that um we can't get out of the

[43:52] country because they go to the ships

[43:55] they will blast up.

[43:57] I spent the evening with the British

[43:59] family at their apartment in West Beirut

[44:01] where the bags are packed and the

[44:02] children are desperate to be evacuated

[44:04] to Cyprus.

[44:05] >> I feel a lot more safer where it's not

[44:08] so scary.

[44:10] You know, there's like you get to sleep

[44:13] at night without hearing explosions and

[44:17] you know, you're not afraid at all. The

[44:20] family spends the evenings watching TV

[44:22] with the sound turned up so they don't

[44:24] hear the explosions outside

[44:26] >> when the bombs are falling. It It's just

[44:29] really really frightening. It's

[44:30] frightening for everybody, not just for

[44:32] them.

[44:32] >> The Nailers have lived in Lebanon for 11

[44:35] years. The children have grown up here.

[44:37] They've already had to give away the

[44:39] family pets and now they face leaving

[44:41] everything behind.

[44:42] >> That's been one of the hardest things is

[44:44] seeing the uncertainty. And I think one

[44:47] of the things that struck me over the

[44:48] last few days is the silence.

[44:54] >> Even when they're being called to

[44:55] prayer, most of Beirut's residents keep

[44:57] off the streets. Inside, the Naylor's

[45:00] children are allowed to stay up late in

[45:02] the hope that they'll be tired enough to

[45:04] sleep through the night of bombing

[45:06] ahead.

[45:06] >> They've got lots of questions and we're

[45:08] trying to answer the questions honestly.

[45:10] So often we have to say, "We don't know.

[45:12] We don't know when the boat's coming. We

[45:14] don't know when we'll be going." The

[45:16] family have to watch the TV for news of

[45:18] what's happening on their doorstep. All

[45:20] the British Embassy has said to them is

[45:22] stay inside and wait.

[45:25] >> And that's just one family among so many

[45:28] others hoping for the best tonight in

[45:31] wartorrn Beirut. Stay with us everybody.

[45:34] MSNBC's coverage of the crisis in the

[45:36] Middle East continues in a moment.

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