Wake Up Live W/ Christopher DeSimone Ep. 430 - Mark Van Buren

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[8:58] You're listening to Wake Up with

[9:00] Christopher D. Simone on the Live the

[9:03] Dream Media Network, Southern Arizona's

[9:06] premier live talk and online radio

[9:18] in this world.

[9:20] Maybe it's not too late to learn how to

[9:25] love.

[9:27] Sam is still going to get a Warner

[9:28] Brothers hate one and get out of hat.

[9:33] All right, let's go far. It's 6:00

[9:36] Arizona time, 9:00 Eastern. Let's get

[9:38] going on Wake Up Live with Christopher

[9:40] D. Simone. Uh the crew is this this this

[9:44] this

[9:45] place is like Santa's workshop in

[9:48] December. Uh Shay and Tony, both in

[9:51] their, you know, early 20s, were here

[9:53] before I was. Well, that needs to happen

[9:55] anyway. But we we we we got to go this

[9:58] this we got a remote tomorrow at the

[10:00] Morirana pumpkin patch. Um I got to

[10:03] start crocheting little pumpkin uh

[10:06] microphone cozies. It's It's a thing.

[10:10] It's a thing. I want to thank uh Shelly

[10:13] and Ted for filling in for me uh

[10:14] yesterday. It worked out great. went up

[10:17] to Phoenix and had some meetings and

[10:19] then had uh dinner with my son and Dave

[10:23] Slavven and then we went uh to the Beat

[10:26] the Music of King Crimson concert at

[10:28] Celebrity Theater which was amazing.

[10:32] Amazing.

[10:34] Um and then uh David worked out some

[10:38] backstage passes

[10:41] so I got to geek out with a couple of my

[10:44] guys which was fun. as my son said as he

[10:47] was following me around talking to these

[10:48] guys. He goes, "It was like watching a

[10:50] walking talking uh wakeup show, but you

[10:53] were geeking out with your progressive

[10:55] rock guys." So, I said, "I'll I'll take

[10:57] that." So, Tony Leven was great. Adrien

[11:00] Belaloo was amazing. And also Terry

[11:02] Bozio, the drummer. I didn't get to talk

[11:04] to Steve Vi. We kind of did the yo, but

[11:08] he was busy with a bunch of other people

[11:09] on the other side of the little room we

[11:11] were in. So, and it was 11:00 and my son

[11:13] had to go to work the next day. So,

[11:15] we're like, but it was nice staying at

[11:17] his place instead of doing the I've done

[11:19] the drive down the Tucson after

[11:22] uh after the after a show in Phoenix.

[11:24] And I know a bunch of you have. So, uh

[11:28] you know, D Simone falls asleep by the

[11:29] time he gets to Eloy.

[11:32] No Gratzi. No, no Gratzi. So, um anyway,

[11:36] Shelley and Ted were great. Uh I watched

[11:39] the interview with Ham. I watched part

[11:41] of David's. And then I watched a little

[11:43] bit of John that I had to get going. But

[11:45] um I did have I did have coffee long

[11:48] coffee with David on Wednesday

[11:52] um at the old um what the old Chompies

[11:55] on Shay and we had a good discussion

[11:59] about upcoming elections debrief on

[12:01] stuff. It was it was very very good. So

[12:05] thank you again for everyone who helped

[12:06] out and uh it was a good show. Mark will

[12:09] be here in a little bit. aerial combat

[12:11] movies.

[12:13] And we got a lot of stuff to cover

[12:15] today. I don't know if we're gonna get

[12:16] to it all. Um, good morning to Big Dave,

[12:18] Mona, Motherucker, Billy Beard, Murf,

[12:22] and Holden. Uh, no wind at Raccoon

[12:25] Ranch. Cloudy 67. Good morning to Jamie.

[12:29] Uh, I forgot to take down my stupid

[12:31] windchime this morning, so that's what

[12:32] woke me up at 3:55 this morning. So,

[12:37] it happens. It happens. Remember Dave

[12:39] shows coming on after me, followed by

[12:41] Bob Elliot. Pat, good morning. Pat

[12:44] Hirsch, good morning. Um, I got to get

[12:47] into before Mark gets here and we

[12:49] lighten our load with stuff here a

[12:52] little bit. 425

[12:56] 425

[12:58] 425

[13:01] That is the Puma County expenditure

[13:03] limit thing.

[13:06] And it has been fascinating to watch the

[13:08] yes side on this. And I'm gonna tell you

[13:12] why it's fascinating

[13:14] because they have no real spokesperson

[13:17] other than Taxosaurus Rex. Oh, Damn it.

[13:21] I forgot that. I So we we went to a

[13:27] Rex's last town series of town halls he

[13:30] ever did in his life. And I'm I'm tell

[13:33] and we were very respectful, but he he

[13:35] crumbled under questioning on property

[13:37] taxes and I'm sure he went I am never

[13:40] doing that again. Uh let's see. Tax uh

[13:45] taxosaurus

[13:48] rex. I got to find the picture. That was

[13:51] that was one of my that was one of my

[13:52] best homemade signs. Oh, there it is.

[13:56] Thank god I got to get this to shape.

[13:59] Sh, I'm gonna send this to you and then

[14:01] I just want you to kind of split screen

[14:04] me in this picture if you can. Okay,

[14:05] please for this segment. Uh Shay Shay

[14:11] Shay

[14:12] Shay. H this is one of my best this is

[14:16] one of my best homemade p uh artwork.

[14:18] I've done some good ones.

[14:21] This one's

[14:23] this one's pretty hot. So, um,

[14:28] so for some reason, Taxosaurus Rex is

[14:31] the is the only person out there talking

[14:35] about yes vote. They can't even find a

[14:38] stoogge to do it. But you know what

[14:40] we're going to do? Of course, look, then

[14:44] we got to get to the campaign finance

[14:46] report,

[14:47] which is

[14:52] super hot.

[14:55] Super super super hot. So, [snorts]

[14:59] this thing

[15:03] is um

[15:06] move Puma County forward. Oh, that's

[15:09] beautiful.

[15:10] This is Let's Let's get that beautiful

[15:12] Taxosaurus Rex. Look at him crushing

[15:14] fixed income seniors there with his with

[15:17] his paws.

[15:19] More tax money. He He loves it.

[15:23] Feed it with a shovel. It's a poor tax.

[15:33] Don't give me movies yet. Give me movies

[15:35] when he's on. Uh Bobby Watson, Patrick

[15:39] morning. Saw a lot of video of the beat

[15:41] concert. It was awesome, Patrick. It was

[15:44] awesome. Dr. Neil 59 visibility under

[15:47] mile. You could I could see driving down

[15:49] um aa the the the dust is out there, my

[15:53] friend. So, if you're dust sensitive,

[15:56] be ready. Be ready. Now, let's get to

[16:01] the campaign finance reports. So there's

[16:04] no ch there's no um there's like no

[16:08] spokesperson chairperson, right?

[16:13] And then the campaign treasurer is some

[16:16] lady. She doesn't Janet Marquott.

[16:20] Okay.

[16:22] And Janet,

[16:26] I think, is part of the group that's

[16:29] spending the money, I think. Let's see.

[16:31] I want to make sure I got this right.

[16:33] which I always find uh oh she was the W

[16:36] oh sorry Y so YWCA

[16:40] she's an Arizona listister YWCA

[16:44] director for 25 years.

[16:48] So Arizona list is the um kill every

[16:52] unborn baby you can kind of place.

[16:57] So let's see what's what's Janet? Let me

[16:59] get Janet real quick. uh uh work for

[17:02] racial justice.

[17:05] Um create she created a hate crimes task

[17:08] force.

[17:11] She joined Fred Duval's campaign staff

[17:13] to lead uh his campaign efforts.

[17:18] Let's see. She's um

[17:23] of course on the board of Planned

[17:25] Parenthood Advocates for Arizona

[17:29] for this amazing Oh, she was the Arizona

[17:32] list like woman of the year. Perfect,

[17:34] perfect, perfect, perfect. All right, so

[17:38] that's Janet. Now, let's get to let's

[17:42] get to that big fat money. You know, I

[17:44] just saying crazy trading money money.

[17:50] Here we go. Let's get to the F. And

[17:52] here's the best part. There is recycled

[17:55] tax dollars

[17:57] paying for a Let's increase the ability

[18:00] to tax the living crap out of you.

[18:03] Okay,

[18:06] here we go.

[18:09] Jan, now this is the best part. Jan

[18:11] Leer, outgoing county administrator,

[18:14] current county employee,

[18:17] thousand bucks. Even Huckleberry

[18:20] wouldn't donate to uh crap like this.

[18:23] But she's like, "Ah, it gets better,

[18:24] though." Uh, old Francisco Garcia,

[18:28] retired assistant Puma County

[18:30] Administrator,

[18:32] 250.

[18:34] Chad Casmar, you know, the the the shine

[18:38] keeps coming off Chad more and more. 500

[18:44] Bobby Gino.

[18:46] Um,

[18:47] you know, I I thought you're not

[18:48] supposed to take donations from a

[18:51] company, right? But it says Guino and

[18:54] Mortimer gave him $1,000.

[18:57] Is that only for regular candidates?

[18:58] Bill Beard, help me out. Phil Swain,

[19:01] Swain Associates architect, $1,000.

[19:05] Fletcher McCusker, $1,000.

[19:09] Uh Carrie Silvin, $1,000. It's all the

[19:13] typical characters. This is This is not

[19:14] even close. Rick Price, real estate.

[19:18] He's He's He's in with the whole the

[19:20] crew over there. $1,000.

[19:22] Sylvia Lee, beer thrower at uh BYU um

[19:27] basketball players. $1,000. I mean,

[19:30] Larry Hecker, let's go. 250.

[19:35] Jennifer Allen, 500.

[19:38] Brad Lloyd, Lloyd Construction,

[19:44] 10,000 bucks.

[19:47] Mama mia.

[19:49] I I assume Lloyd Construction builds

[19:51] buildings for the county. Uh Katherine

[19:54] Morton, owner of Homestyle Galleries.

[19:59] 2500 bucks.

[20:03] I think I'd think twice about going to

[20:05] Homestyle Galleries. Uh, Michael Rossi,

[20:09] uh, 500 lobbyists for the county. Uh,

[20:13] the Chamber of Southern Arizona, now

[20:16] remember, they get $600,000 from the

[20:19] county, $2500 from the pack.

[20:24] Oh, but wait,

[20:27] there's more. Diamond Ventures, 3500.

[20:32] Raffle Hospital, this is TMC.

[20:36] again. Don't buy the raffle.

[20:41] They keep saying, "Oh, we need your

[20:43] money. We could We're going to save

[20:46] children

[20:48] 25,000 bucks to shove 425 down your

[20:51] throat." 25g's.

[20:54] As we say in Monty Python, do you think

[20:57] you could buy a machine that goes

[21:00] for 25 gs instead of giving it to these

[21:03] people? Tucson Electric Power, $15,000.

[21:08] Visit Tucson,

[21:10] which is mostly tax dollars through bed

[21:12] tax, $40,000 bucks.

[21:16] They have become a cash cow for the

[21:19] local electeds.

[21:22] Well, they're already due given 2

[21:23] million towards the crime bus. What's 40

[21:26] G's for this piece of crap?

[21:29] Banner Healthcare $25,000.

[21:33] Southern Arizona Homebuilders

[21:34] Association, $2500.

[21:38] Let's see what's our dispersements here.

[21:41] Kathleen Turney, she's a campaign

[21:44] consultant for $16,000.

[21:47] Kathleen Turney, $16,000.

[21:50] Kathleen Turney. Uh oh, sorry. She was f

[21:54] that was her cumulative amount was

[21:56] $16,000. Sorry. Uh what else? Havalina

[22:00] Consulting,

[22:03] $28,000.

[22:08] Got to keep going. A lot of Havalas.

[22:09] Kathleen. Uh, they sent $800 to the

[22:13] Arizona Democrat party.

[22:17] So, here's the best part. Think about

[22:19] even the chamber. Well, they say it's

[22:20] their back. So you have tax dollars

[22:22] going to visit Tucson

[22:25] that goes into this and then goes to the

[22:27] Arizona Democrat party.

[22:32] What happened?

[22:34] Uh, Anna, fine. Kathleen Turney,

[22:39] Havalina, Havalina, Havalina, Havalina.

[22:47] Man,

[22:49] who owns Havalina Consulting?

[22:52] That's got to be fun. Hold on.

[22:55] Who owns Havalina

[22:59] Consulting

[23:02] in Tucson? Amazing.

[23:08] Katherine Alonszo, Bill Shield, and

[23:11] David Wade. Why do I know Bill Shield?

[23:13] That sounds familiar.

[23:16] Katherine Alonszo.

[23:18] Katherine Alonszo. Okay, real quick. I

[23:21] just I gota just see who Katherine.

[23:24] I want to see if she has like Raa Romero

[23:27] underus and u business or something like

[23:31] Katherine Alonszo. Tucson. What does she

[23:34] do?

[23:36] Hope it's with a Z. Okay, we got that.

[23:39] Katherine Alonszo.

[23:42] What is this picture? Who are these

[23:44] people? Katherine Alonzo. Is this her?

[23:48] Arizona Peer Career Consulting.

[23:53] Oh, there's her. Let's see. Hold on.

[23:54] We're almost there. Katherine Alonzo,

[23:57] Belief Action.

[24:00] Oh my god, she's got She in Phoenix.

[24:08] Oh my god, she's a Sunundevil.

[24:12] That's perfect. We're sending money to

[24:14] Sunundevils in the Arizona Democrat

[24:15] party through taxpayer dollars getting

[24:18] put through CH move Pima County forward.

[24:20] Love it. So anyway, so Rex's been out

[24:23] there as the only spokesperson for this,

[24:28] right? So then there's a young man named

[24:32] Steve Christie

[24:34] and I want to give kudos to Stephen for

[24:37] his um and thank you for Billy number

[24:41] two for sending this to me. I would

[24:42] never pay for the Arizona Daily Star.

[24:45] We'll get to the the Arizona Daily Star

[24:47] has now uh all 13 employees have now

[24:50] unionized with the Communication Workers

[24:52] of America, which actually it's just

[24:55] another we'll get to that later. All

[24:58] right.

[24:59] I love Steve is hilarious in this uh in

[25:02] this piece. He says

[25:05] uh the opening line is so good. As sure

[25:08] as the full foliage on Mount Lemon each

[25:12] year, the county tax statements land in

[25:15] the mailboxes

[25:17] and we get a bunch of calls from

[25:20] constituents expressing dismay that's

[25:23] putting it lightly about the bottom line

[25:24] and with good reason.

[25:27] This year, variables of the equation

[25:29] used to calculate tax the amount

[25:31] increased.

[25:33] Assessed values rose. PI primary

[25:36] property tax approved by the board of

[25:37] supervisor rose.

[25:40] That's even better. They I mean even uh

[25:43] you know they can't even go well you

[25:44] know we dropped off we dropped your now

[25:46] they're just like screw you. We we we we

[25:48] just want your dough right. Um

[25:53] Kachansky good morning. What the hell

[25:55] happened to Kasmar? How much did SLC

[25:58] kick in for the they didn't kick in

[25:59] anything for the S crowd? Remember their

[26:02] their their proud statement is they're

[26:04] not taking a U position on it.

[26:08] So there is no SALC money in the Yes.

[26:12] You know, Kasmar likes being a

[26:14] bureaucrat.

[26:16] Hey, you know, it's funny. Prito is

[26:18] better than Kasmar is what we're

[26:20] learning.

[26:21] Casmar is the one who shoved Jamie Voss

[26:23] in the corner and took one of the best

[26:25] street cops off the street and they kept

[26:27] them there, kept them there, kept them

[26:29] there because he wrote a letter saying

[26:32] maybe we should keep these people uh off

[26:34] the streets for a few days so they can

[26:35] clear their minds. That became he became

[26:37] enemy number one for the mayor. But

[26:39] anyway, all of a sudden Monica becomes

[26:41] the chief and Vos is out on the streets

[26:43] doing his job. How's that for crazy?

[26:47] So yeah, Chad Cha Chadster talks a good

[26:51] game. Now, is he better than Chris

[26:53] Magnus? Hell's to the Yeah, hell's to

[26:56] the But is that a low bar?

[27:01] Hells to the air. There is a gangbanger

[27:03] outside banging the best thump thumping

[27:05] base right now out there. It is awesome.

[27:08] Uh now,

[27:11] um let's get back to Steve Christie. He

[27:14] goes, "Um, now bear in mind there are a

[27:16] number of taxing entities. Um, but

[27:19] here's four controlled directly by the

[27:21] board of soups. There's the Puma County

[27:23] Primary, County Bonds Debt Service,

[27:25] Flood Control, and then there's Library

[27:28] District." Okay.

[27:31] The impact of rising raising the prop

[27:34] primary property tax cannot be

[27:35] overstated.

[27:37] Um

[27:41] any property value increase set by the

[27:43] county assessor can be neutralized or

[27:45] even reduced by the board of suits by

[27:48] lower lowering the primary rate to

[27:49] offset the rise in value. This is being

[27:52] called ne revenue neutral which I

[27:54] advocate for every year and instead my

[27:56] board colleagues on the board vote to

[27:58] raise the rate even higher than before.

[28:01] Why did the primary tax rate need to go

[28:03] up? Let me get a little screen. Need to

[28:05] go up. That's air quotes for you video

[28:07] watchers.

[28:09] Um, some might call this the year

[28:12] reality set in. Uh, era money u co

[28:15] money's gone such as operaes and other

[28:18] social services sent to FEMA County has

[28:20] expired or been expanded.

[28:23] However, as the case with one-time

[28:24] funding, there's continued demand and

[28:27] for these social service programs. My

[28:30] colleagues voted for much for their

[28:32] continuence and the funding source local

[28:34] property tax increases for projects such

[28:37] as supercharging prek education and

[28:40] daycare with $10 million

[28:44] as well as $9 million in subsidized

[28:47] public housing.

[28:49] $10 million for daycare.

[28:53] Okay,

[28:55] which leads me to urge you to vote no on

[28:58] Prop 425.

[29:01] The problem, the proposition claims to

[29:03] address a highly technical and in the

[29:05] weeds challenge that dates back to the

[29:06] 808 80s. It was the Arizona version of

[29:10] legend California's legendary pop prop

[29:13] 13. In fact, if 425 passes, it would

[29:17] revise the 80 voter improved base limit

[29:19] by $70 million. an addition in 2026 of

[29:24] $610

[29:26] million and raise the spending limit to

[29:30] 1.43

[29:31] billion,

[29:33] an amount that will then be adjusted

[29:35] upward each year.

[29:39] I love that Taxasaurus Rex is the only

[29:42] one out there. And again, for all of you

[29:44] who think Rex is moderate, he is not. He

[29:47] is a leftist. I've been telling you that

[29:50] for years.

[29:56] Remember, he was the one who got put at

[29:57] the front of the line at the Cat

[29:58] Foothills schoolboard meeting because he

[30:01] does he doesn't what was the thing about

[30:03] the kids that want to like uh change

[30:05] their sexuality without telling their

[30:08] parents or their pronouns or whatever.

[30:10] He was right out there. T Rex is a

[30:13] leftist

[30:15] and for some reason he loves data

[30:17] centers.

[30:20] So for all you lefties that hate data

[30:22] centers, Texosaurus Rex because he wants

[30:24] that that tax dollars from the data

[30:27] center. That was more important than

[30:28] anything you you data sater haters hate.

[30:32] Okay. Um the problem comes down pure and

[30:36] simple to the spending history and

[30:37] priorities of the board of soups. Have

[30:39] we heard that before? This is Steve

[30:41] Christiey's op-ed in the dead star.

[30:44] We cannot risk the amount of um this

[30:48] amount of taxpayer dollars being handed

[30:49] to a supermajority of this board.

[30:53] Um if there was guard rails in the

[30:55] proposition to ensure core county

[30:57] functions, then passing 425 could make

[31:00] some sense.

[31:03] From the imagination of a 10-year plan

[31:05] to repair all our roads to good

[31:07] condition to engaging in uh buying up uh

[31:11] land and buildings, engaging in costly

[31:13] lawsuits, vilifying businesses and

[31:15] economic development and [snorts]

[31:16] forever social service grants to

[31:18] unaccountable NGO NOS's. That's

[31:22] unbelievably true. As we uh and we hear

[31:25] that if it doesn't pass, the county

[31:26] won't be able to spend all the money it

[31:28] collects. Here's a radical thought. Why

[31:30] don't we lower the property taxes and

[31:32] collects less?

[31:34] When evaluating 425, it's worthwhile to

[31:37] ask two questions. One, are we better

[31:40] off as a region and is our quality of

[31:42] life higher with spending priorities of

[31:43] the curtain board of supervisors? And

[31:46] number two, can Pima County home and

[31:48] business owners afford this board of

[31:49] supervisors? The answer is uh of course

[31:53] no to both those. I think reasonable

[31:55] answer is that we all must vote no to

[31:57] 425. [snorts]

[31:58] The voters got it right back in 1980.

[32:04] I mean,

[32:06] this is this one's so this one's so

[32:08] hilarious. Even the people that have

[32:10] funding it, they're doing it at a

[32:13] gunpoint is what I would say

[32:17] because they won't even put their face.

[32:19] Remember in the old days they'd have

[32:21] Huckleberry and all have them in a

[32:22] kumbaya moment and go we need to pass

[32:25] bonds.

[32:27] So when you go to yes on425.com

[32:30] and you go oh who's supporting this pig

[32:34] there's three people there's three ent

[32:36] there's one person

[32:38] okay

[32:40] and two entities that have that will put

[32:43] their name on this publicly

[32:47] grava

[32:48] the puma Democrat party and the chamber

[32:52] of southern Arizona

[32:54] that is the best that's

[32:57] That is the best. Well, Snell's like,

[32:59] "But they're giving me 600,000. That's

[33:01] my salary. We can't we can't we can't

[33:05] say no to these people."

[33:07] I mean, Joe Snell is sticking it. And

[33:09] Felipe Garcia, I I I've tried to be nice

[33:13] to them, but Felipe and his board have

[33:15] screwed the tourists in this town, the

[33:18] restaurants, the funders.

[33:21] They've screwed them.

[33:28] $40,000 of tourism dollars to go to

[33:32] shove this sucker down your throat.

[33:36] When does his board find some hueos?

[33:40] That's what I'd like to know. They got

[33:42] none. They will not protect the tourism

[33:46] uh business owners and the restaurant

[33:48] owners of this town at all. Ever.

[33:51] ever.

[33:53] So,

[33:55] um, let's uh Oh, sorry. I opened up

[33:59] something that I got to hear my own

[34:00] voice. All right, let's go to Let's go

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[34:07] over. So, you're on Live the Dream

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[34:12] ever. Plus, the Puma College bond is a

[34:15] total pig. I see that the president is

[34:17] out. The chancellor did another video. I

[34:20] mean, he I got tech I got Rex is the

[34:23] spokesman here, uh, who works for the

[34:25] county, right? And then I got the guy

[34:28] who's the chancellor of Puma College

[34:30] going, "No, this is what it does." You

[34:32] can say, he's not saying vote yes, but

[34:34] he's damn close. You're on Live the

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[39:32] Oh, hello there. Oh, hi Christopher D.

[39:36] Smoke. Good morning to you all. Uh we're

[39:39] hanging out with our good friend Mark

[39:41] Van Beern. Dr. Van Nostrin, good

[39:43] morning.

[39:43] >> Good morning, my friend.

[39:44] >> And how are you, sir?

[39:44] >> I am well. That's good.

[39:46] >> I am very well. I was just uh we were

[39:48] just talking about we're you know, we're

[39:50] former hotel guys, so we talked tourism

[39:52] and stuff like that. Um we're talking

[39:54] about certain rates at hotels, right?

[39:57] We're talking about So, first of all,

[39:58] we're talking about fall foliage when

[39:59] you had a hotel. Yeah.

[40:00] >> Where was this hotel that

[40:02] >> uh in White River Junction, Vermont, I

[40:04] was a regional. We had a Hampton in in

[40:07] in this and it was it's uh as as the

[40:10] crow flies probably 10 miles from

[40:12] Dartmouth.

[40:13] >> Beautiful place. Oh yeah. But but I mean

[40:16] there was really not an awful lot of

[40:18] business around there, but it was off a

[40:19] major highway and everything. And uh we

[40:22] were projecting rates they were going to

[40:24] run probably around a hundred bucks,

[40:25] right? And this is 20 years ago. And we

[40:28] opened up right in the middle of fall

[40:30] foliage and we were getting $400 a

[40:33] night.

[40:35] This was it was like 20 years ago

[40:37] >> and uh it was it was crazy. And and uh

[40:40] the owner is just happy and he's calling

[40:43] me. He goes, "This is fantastic." And I

[40:44] go, "Yeah, yeah." So [laughter] So like

[40:47] a month goes by and all of a sudden all

[40:49] the leaves fell off the tree.

[40:51] Yeah. And and it's like uh they're

[40:53] running a $98 rate and he calls me up

[40:55] and he goes, "What happened?" I go,

[40:57] "Come on. You know what happened? The

[40:58] leaves fell off."

[41:00] >> [laughter]

[41:00] >> So, I was telling Mark, I think the most

[41:02] profitable hotels in Arizona

[41:04] >> Yeah.

[41:05] >> might be the two Marriotts. There's a um

[41:08] it's a courtyard and the residents in

[41:11] they're right next to each other in

[41:12] Sedona.

[41:13] >> Yeah.

[41:14] >> They're south of the junction.

[41:16] >> Sure. Oh, okay. Yeah.

[41:17] >> All right. They're not up in the They're

[41:19] south. It's They have a great view. The

[41:21] uh the courtyard actually has a little

[41:23] sky deck.

[41:24] >> Okay.

[41:24] >> Right. That you and we've actually

[41:26] gotten like dinner to go.

[41:28] >> Yeah. and a bottle of veno or a couple

[41:30] of beers and just sit on that sky deck.

[41:32] It's better than most restaurants. Yeah.

[41:33] Right.

[41:34] >> So, just to let you know from a couple

[41:36] of weeks from now, right?

[41:37] >> Yeah.

[41:37] >> So, if you want to stay at the

[41:38] courtyard, which is the the slumier of

[41:40] the the places,

[41:42] >> it's 6:07 a night

[41:44] >> out the door.

[41:45] >> See, I got to tell you, Chris, uh I was

[41:47] up there uh when did we go up there? I

[41:50] think April, and we had a great time,

[41:52] but I rented a house and a lot cheaper

[41:55] than that. Uh [laughter] the residence

[41:57] in where you get your breakfast

[41:59] included.

[41:59] >> Yeah.

[42:00] >> Uh 687. [laughter]

[42:02] >> Okay.

[42:02] >> It's nuts.

[42:03] >> And then I forgot that they have the

[42:05] Skyrock Sedona. It's their one of their

[42:07] portfolio hotels.

[42:08] >> Oh yeah.

[42:09] >> It's one of those It's one of those cool

[42:11] It's one of those cool things. It's like

[42:12] a It's like a Zack Yenser drug dream,

[42:14] right? [laughter] Um 758 a night.

[42:21] I do like,

[42:22] >> you know, the thing is when when I go to

[42:24] a place like Sedona, I'm I sleep in the

[42:26] hotel [laughter]

[42:28] >> and I'm out the rest of the day, right?

[42:30] I'm going to restaurants, I'm going to

[42:32] tourist attractions and whatever. So,

[42:33] you're paying that kind of money

[42:36] >> for what? I [laughter] don't It's a bed.

[42:39] [snorts]

[42:39] >> Agreed. Uh good morning to uh Mike and

[42:42] Ron and Maryanne who are said good

[42:46] morning in our Facebook live chat. Uh,

[42:49] start thinking about um start thinking

[42:51] about um aerial combat movies for Mark.

[42:54] We're going to get there in a second.

[42:56] [snorts] Um, hang on to your hats,

[42:58] Cowboy Tilly. You better believe it.

[43:00] It's windy right now out there.

[43:02] >> I know. That's why I put this on because

[43:03] it's just like uh I love the

[43:06] temperature, but when the wind's blowing

[43:07] like that, it's actually a little cool.

[43:09] But uh yeah, what they're saying like 50

[43:12] to 60 mph winds. So, batting down the H,

[43:15] you know, and I know there's people that

[43:17] decorated for Halloween. You better, you

[43:19] better uh

[43:19] >> I hope it knocks over every one of your

[43:21] giant skeleton pieces of crap

[43:23] >> and your devils and demons out there.

[43:26] >> It's uh it's going to be risky.

[43:29] >> Um, so Mike said that the Dead Star put

[43:32] the Christy oped about no on 425 behind

[43:35] the payw wall, but Rex's yes, they did

[43:38] not. [laughter]

[43:41] >> Wow.

[43:42] Um, you're a big fan of of newspapers or

[43:45] you used to

[43:46] >> I used to be. I mean, it's it's so sad

[43:49] for me because I had a morning ritual

[43:51] even when I was working where, you know,

[43:54] I read the paper from cover to cover

[43:56] every day. And uh, I got to the point

[43:59] where after listening to you influencing

[44:01] me a little bit, but also, you know,

[44:04] really thinking about it myself, I was,

[44:06] you know, I had a subscription to the

[44:08] Death Star for quite some time. Yeah.

[44:10] And I just got so tired of it because

[44:12] there was no new news in it, right? It

[44:15] it was two days old. And uh and quite

[44:18] frankly, listen to people like Stellar

[44:20] who who was a one-sided, you know, uh

[44:24] you know, speaker for uh mayor and

[44:27] council, you just get tired of it. And

[44:29] and it's just like and and they did

[44:31] everything they possibly could do to

[44:34] alienate who their clients were. Okay,

[44:37] I'm a senior citizen. And uh what did

[44:39] you do? You shrunk the paper. I don't

[44:41] like that. I like a bigger paper. Right.

[44:43] You shrunk the paper. You you you uh

[44:46] shrunk the comics. You you shrunk all

[44:48] the editorial stuff. And there's really

[44:51] nothing in there. But but AP stories.

[44:54] And it and it's ridiculous.

[44:56] >> The final straw is when they got rid of

[44:58] Hagar the Horrible.

[44:59] >> Actually, you know what the final straw

[45:01] was [laughter] for me? And it wasn't it

[45:03] wasn't a comic, but

[45:05] that sticker that goes on that sticker

[45:09] that goes for advertisement that goes on

[45:11] the front page and usually covers up the

[45:13] date or whatever it is.

[45:14] >> Actually, it's better than that. It

[45:15] usually covers up the ad of someone who

[45:16] bought the top. [laughter]

[45:18] >> There you go. But I hate that sticker so

[45:21] much and I went out of my way to not do

[45:23] business with anyone who ever advertised

[45:25] on something like that. I just hated it.

[45:27] >> So the dead star, all 13 employees.

[45:31] Shay, can you put that picture up real

[45:32] quick?

[45:33] >> 13,

[45:33] >> I think. We We'll get our fingers out

[45:36] and count together.

[45:37] >> That's pretty sad.

[45:38] >> And [laughter]

[45:39] they were talking about how they were so

[45:42] excited. Taxosaurus Rexes.

[45:45] >> I like that.

[45:45] >> It's one of my favorites. [laughter]

[45:47] More tax money. Ra.

[45:50] >> I didn't raise your taxes. [laughter]

[45:54] >> There they are. That's it.

[45:55] >> They joined the They finally have

[45:58] unionized

[46:00] This was their This is the Union 12.

[46:03] >> There's little Timmy behind the guy with

[46:05] the glasses.

[46:06] >> He's not wearing his stupid hat, so you

[46:08] can't recognize them.

[46:09] >> Oh, I I recognize him.

[46:11] >> So, this is their celebration of they

[46:13] finally have unionized.

[46:17] >> What with 12 employees? Come on.

[46:21] That's a powerful. [laughter]

[46:24] >> Now, the best part about the

[46:25] >> Did the manager sign up for the union?

[46:28] >> What? the one guy. [laughter]

[46:29] >> One guy.

[46:30] >> I mean, how many managers they got over

[46:32] there?

[46:32] >> Well, that's true. Do you have an HR

[46:33] department?

[46:35] >> They have an AI HR person someplace back

[46:37] at the USA today.

[46:39] >> That's terrible.

[46:40] >> So, this is your Arizona Daily Star

[46:42] staff. Okay. And at the same time, um,

[46:46] >> it's important that they unionize under

[46:49] the Communication Workers Association.

[46:52] I'm going to tell you this is this is my

[46:54] little cliff Clayven, right?

[46:56] >> Yeah.

[46:56] >> It's a little known fact, Normie. Right.

[46:58] >> Okay.

[46:59] >> Well, it's not. So, the communication

[47:01] workers is one of the unions that is

[47:04] hip-to-hip with the local political

[47:07] machine.

[47:08] >> Oh.

[47:08] >> Right. They've unionized the office

[47:10] workers.

[47:10] >> Well, that makes sense. Yeah.

[47:11] >> And so now

[47:13] >> finally

[47:14] >> they are now part of the union that's

[47:16] part of the that is one of the

[47:18] supporters of the machine. So now

[47:19] there's no even there's not even hiding

[47:21] it anymore, which I like.

[47:22] >> It'll be interesting when they do go out

[47:24] of business and they're going out of

[47:25] business, right? When they do go out of

[47:27] business, what is the union stance on

[47:29] that going to be?

[47:30] >> I mean, they're going to lose 13 dues.

[47:32] How much are they charging these? Look

[47:34] at these. Look at the Look at the kids

[47:35] on the bottom right. What are they

[47:37] making? They're making 10 bucks an hour.

[47:39] [laughter]

[47:40] >> You can make more. You can make it more

[47:42] at In-N-Out, baby.

[47:43] >> That's what I'm Whatever the minimum

[47:44] wage that those poor girls on the bottom

[47:46] right are making, right?

[47:48] I assume Timmy's the highest paid there,

[47:51] which is of course a joke and a half,

[47:53] but

[47:53] >> oh my god, he is so terrible. Every once

[47:56] in a while he'll cross my feed on

[47:58] something and it's just like it's always

[48:00] the same slant. It's always pro mayor

[48:03] and counsel and it's just sickening.

[48:06] >> Again, that's that's why I I I I had to

[48:08] give props to our boy Josh Jacobson.

[48:11] Just crushed him in that debate on Bucky

[48:13] a couple of Fridays ago.

[48:15] >> Josh is killing it, man. It's just like

[48:17] he ought to run for political office,

[48:18] but

[48:19] >> he's asked many a time.

[48:20] >> He's uh he's really something. I re I

[48:22] really admire him. I think he's doing a

[48:24] great job.

[48:24] >> Josh Jacobson [snorts] versus Rex Scott

[48:27] in 2028.

[48:28] >> I'd love to see it.

[48:30] >> That's what I would do.

[48:31] >> The only the only thing that's

[48:32] disheartening

[48:33] >> Josh is literally throwing crap at his

[48:35] whatever he's listen his phone probably

[48:36] right now. Go to hell decent. What's

[48:38] disheartening though, Chris, is is just

[48:40] like this voting populace keeps voting

[48:42] for the same people over and over again

[48:44] and then they complain about the way

[48:46] things are here. Well, why do you think

[48:48] that is? You you're you're voting for

[48:50] people who don't give a darn about you

[48:52] and they want to keep you in poverty and

[48:54] that's what they're doing.

[48:55] >> Yep.

[48:56] >> Yeah. I mean, but we we were talking

[48:57] about this before coming on the air,

[48:58] right? When you have this bad of a

[49:01] public school, right? We were talking

[49:02] about Adelita Grahalva is like a

[49:04] tornado, right? everything and where she

[49:06] goes. There's a wreck in her wake.

[49:08] >> Yeah.

[49:09] >> Right. So, TUSD,

[49:11] >> she destroyed it.

[49:12] >> Destroyed it. Right.

[49:13] >> You know what I You know what I always

[49:14] think about? Those kids that were

[49:15] chained to their desk over

[49:17] Mexican-American studies. I remember

[49:18] that. You remember that? That was

[49:19] disgusting. I remember.

[49:20] >> It's just like, wait a minute. The kids

[49:22] can't do math.

[49:24] >> They they can't write or read. And you

[49:27] know, but but we're we're we're standing

[49:29] on that hill, right? It's just like for

[49:32] Mexican-American studies. Wow. Really?

[49:34] Well, I remember they were so they were

[49:36] so um strident violent about it, right?

[49:39] So, Miguel Quas was one of the board

[49:41] members and he wrote an op-ed because

[49:43] what the idea was they wanted the

[49:45] Grahalas wanted to replace American

[49:46] history with this

[49:48] >> perfect this thing. Right. Yeah.

[49:49] >> But they didn't want to do it for

[49:51] Asian-American or African-American

[49:53] studies, just Mexican-American

[49:54] [laughter] studies,

[49:56] >> which is

[49:57] >> Yeah. Let's go down that narrow path,

[49:59] >> right? The rest of you [laughter] really

[50:01] can go to hell. Okay. Uh, and so, uh,

[50:04] Miguel wrote an op-ed.

[50:06] >> Mhm.

[50:07] >> Basically saying why he was a he was

[50:09] going to vote no basically against

[50:11] Graalva on this.

[50:13] >> Right. And then all of a sudden, like at

[50:15] his mom's house, there's like protesters

[50:18] cursing cursing and sign.

[50:20] >> They don't even know what they're

[50:21] protesting. It's just Oh, it's just it's

[50:24] mindboggling. It really is. And so and

[50:27] then you know um the people you know um

[50:31] she was people that I know that were in

[50:32] the meeting. Yeah.

[50:33] >> She was coordinating on her cell phone

[50:36] >> when the when to release the kids.

[50:39] >> Right.

[50:39] >> Released. Oh yeah.

[50:40] >> And then the other guy that was what was

[50:42] his name? You guys could help me out. He

[50:44] was the guy from Colorado, the bad

[50:46] professor

[50:48] who he's the guy um after 911 he called

[50:51] all the people that died little Ikeman's

[50:54] is what he called him. What was that

[50:56] guy's name? You guys got to help me.

[50:57] Hold on. Hold on.

[50:59] >> That's terrible.

[51:00] >> Uh he was like an Adelita like hero.

[51:04] Colorado professor. I want to make sure

[51:06] I can't believe I'm forgetting his name.

[51:08] This is Little Ikeman's. Hold on.

[51:13] What was his name?

[51:15] >> Ward Churchill.

[51:17] >> I remember Ward Churchill.

[51:19] >> Ward Churchill. Good name.

[51:21] >> He referred [snorts] to World Trade

[51:22] Center victims of September 11th as

[51:25] little Ikeman's comparing them to Nazi

[51:27] war criminal A.

[51:28] >> Did he keep his job?

[51:29] >> Of course. Probably got a promotion. Um,

[51:32] [laughter]

[51:34] >> sad.

[51:35] >> So anyway, he was I think he was in the

[51:37] audience like they were showing off the

[51:38] ward. I mean

[51:40] >> or Church Hill

[51:41] >> but again so if you take TUSD

[51:44] >> right

[51:45] >> Sunnyside right the part of

[51:47] >> AI

[51:49] >> right Murf got there W 80 Ward Churchill

[51:52] thank you buddy um

[51:55] >> how many

[51:57] um uninformed voters were we cranking

[51:59] out at a at a graduation every May

[52:02] >> right yeah

[52:03] >> for 20 30 years. Well, and that's what

[52:06] you have. That's who's voting now. And

[52:08] and that's what's scary about the whole

[52:09] thing because they can't connect the

[52:11] dots. They can't understand why,

[52:13] >> you know, there there's not a lot of

[52:15] good job opportunity in in Tucson, but

[52:19] you keep voting for the same people.

[52:22] Hello. Connect the dots, baby.

[52:24] >> So, I I want to tell you, as I

[52:26] unexpectedly, I've told Mark, I've and

[52:28] I've talked to you, my film scholarship

[52:30] this year, uh once in a while, is Jason

[52:32] Staith movies, right? because they're so

[52:35] amazingly bad. [laughter]

[52:37] >> Yeah. But but I I I always say this

[52:40] about Jason Staithm movies. There are

[52:42] scenes in those movies that you really

[52:45] like.

[52:45] >> I understand.

[52:46] >> You just like when like in the Beekeeper

[52:48] when he goes and and he's, you know,

[52:51] security stops him. Stops him. He's got

[52:53] two gas cans. He's going to torch the

[52:55] building. Right. I remember.

[52:57] >> And they they come out scenes in the

[52:58] movie.

[52:59] >> Yeah. They come out there and they go,

[53:01] "You're not going anywhere." And he

[53:02] goes, "Really?" He goes,

[53:04] >> "No, remember the question is,

[53:05] [laughter] uh, you know, what do you

[53:06] want or whatever, right?" And he goes,

[53:08] >> "I'm going to burn it down.

[53:09] >> I'm going [laughter] to burn the place

[53:10] down."

[53:11] >> I mean,

[53:12] >> so

[53:12] >> I mean, I think everybody kind of has

[53:15] that thought process in their mind in a

[53:17] J Jason Staithm movie. So,

[53:19] >> so part of my um

[53:23] um

[53:25] my Halloween this year, I usually don't

[53:27] dress up for Halloween

[53:28] >> really,

[53:29] >> but

[53:30] >> I don't either. We're gonna do a

[53:32] beekeeper Halloween this year.

[53:34] >> Love it.

[53:35] >> All right. Uh I'm gonna have I have some

[53:37] like these LED spotlights, right?

[53:39] >> I'm gonna go to home. I'm gonna go to

[53:40] Hobby Lobby, get some of the gold

[53:42] cellophane. Y

[53:43] >> So when you walk up to the house,

[53:45] >> it's got the yellow honey look to it.

[53:48] >> Got it.

[53:49] >> I'm going to be giving out honey, a bit

[53:50] of honeys and picking out people's kids

[53:53] fillings [laughter]

[53:54] >> left and right. And I haven't I haven't

[53:57] gotten the I have I have a beekeeper

[53:58] shirt. There you go.

[54:00] >> But I do have

[54:02] >> Oh, I like it. It's perfect.

[54:04] >> Perfect.

[54:06] >> We're ready to go.

[54:08] >> It fit my head, too, which is a miracle.

[54:10] >> You got to do the Amazon.

[54:12] >> You got any audio?

[54:14] >> Oh, we're So, my my one buddy's like,

[54:16] you know, maybe you should do like uh

[54:18] cuz I always play like a music list.

[54:20] >> Yeah, but we're we're going to do it.

[54:21] We're going to do buzz a buzzing bee

[54:22] sound and freak everybody out. Yeah, I I

[54:24] I don't know if you've ever seen a swarm

[54:26] like that, but I've been on a couple of

[54:28] golf courses here uh in town where uh

[54:31] all of a sudden you see these swarms and

[54:33] that that noise is very frightening.

[54:35] There's no question about it.

[54:37] >> I actually saw a landing of a h of a

[54:39] whole a moving of a hive.

[54:41] >> Wow.

[54:41] >> So, uh up in Catalina, there's that

[54:44] little Super Eight hotel. Used to be a

[54:45] Super Eight hotel

[54:46] >> and I was doing some consulting with the

[54:48] guys who own that one and several other

[54:50] e economy hotels across the state. And

[54:53] it just happened to be there's like a

[54:55] little meeting room that overlooks

[54:58] >> right

[54:59] >> the front drive. Yes, Flight of the

[55:01] Bumblebee. You are correct, Bill. We're

[55:02] going to be cranking the crap out of

[55:04] that. There you go. Absolutely.

[55:05] [laughter]

[55:06] >> That and the Ingve Mommstein version on

[55:08] guitar. We're going to do it all. So, um

[55:11] we're sitting there and they have that

[55:12] overhang over the thing, right?

[55:15] >> And all of a sudden,

[55:16] >> we had the window open. It was like a

[55:17] beautiful And you could hear this sound.

[55:20] >> Yeah.

[55:21] >> What is that? Right. Mhm.

[55:22] >> Well, we know what happens is that if

[55:24] you don't notice the worker bees are

[55:26] prep that have been preparing the spot

[55:28] for

[55:29] >> months, weeks or months. Right.

[55:31] >> Well, they didn't notice it could so

[55:32] high up. Right. Right.

[55:34] >> So, what happened was the whole swarm

[55:37] >> they just

[55:37] >> they found a little crevice.

[55:39] >> Yeah.

[55:40] >> In that porticochet up there. And so all

[55:42] of a sudden these thousands and

[55:44] thousands of bees covering the whole

[55:46] place, flying around. Yeah.

[55:48] >> Then the queen gets moved in,

[55:50] >> right? And then all of a sudden like 80%

[55:53] of them disappear into the hole.

[55:55] >> Yeah. It's amazing, isn't it?

[55:57] >> It was. It was

[55:58] >> We had uh at the Marriott, this is kind

[56:00] of weird, but on our top floor, we have

[56:02] an overhang over all the all the

[56:04] balconies up there, right?

[56:05] >> And uh a hi, same thing. We had a hive

[56:10] in a day appeared and it was crazy. I

[56:13] mean, there's all kinds of bees there.

[56:14] So, I had to call an exterminator and

[56:16] this guy's out on the ledge spraying

[56:18] them and all the bees are falling down.

[56:19] But it Yeah, it was bad.

[56:21] >> Yeah, it's a it's a it's a pain in the

[56:22] ass in any day, but it's pain in the ass

[56:24] when it's on the seventh floor of the

[56:25] hotel.

[56:25] >> Yeah, big time. Big time.

[56:27] >> Uh, anything in the world of movies uh

[56:29] that you've seen or I know we're both

[56:31] waiting for Jimmy Stewart.

[56:32] >> Wait, waiting for the Jimmy Stewart

[56:34] movie. Like I said, I wanted to see the

[56:35] Staithm movie, but but [laughter] it's

[56:37] not in the theaters anymore.

[56:39] >> Well, uh Huh. Are we I know. Are we

[56:43] allowed, David? If you're watching, are

[56:45] we allowed to show a movie trailer?

[56:47] Because Beekeeper 2 just came out. The

[56:49] trailer is coming out on uh

[56:51] >> Wow.

[56:52] >> And they brought Jeremy Irons back.

[56:54] >> Really? There you go.

[56:55] >> So, he he does shove a flamethrower in a

[56:57] guy's mouth, [laughter]

[56:59] >> burns it up, and then he looks right at

[57:01] the screen and goes,

[57:04] "Why are you being so hotheaded?"

[57:06] [laughter]

[57:07] >> There you go, man.

[57:09] Um

[57:11] >> he's just got such a persona. Have you

[57:12] seen a couple of the ads that he's done?

[57:14] >> Of course.

[57:15] >> You know, and and even those, you know,

[57:17] [laughter] are really kind of funny.

[57:19] >> So, part of my Stathaithm scholarship

[57:21] has been Yeah. There's these movies,

[57:23] action movies that I find that are

[57:25] interesting but also funny at times.

[57:27] >> Sure.

[57:27] >> Right. So, Taken, of course, is one of

[57:29] the great comedy comedic trilogies.

[57:32] >> Yeah.

[57:32] >> Ever. [laughter] All right. [snorts]

[57:35] We can play it or David or we should or

[57:37] or we can't play it. He just put yes.

[57:40] [laughter]

[57:40] We can play it. Well, because it's a

[57:43] trailer. So maybe maybe I'm going to

[57:45] send it to Shay cuz Staithm, it's all

[57:47] about Stathithm.

[57:48] >> Yes.

[57:48] >> Um so what happened was that um

[57:53] um then I got to the Equalizer films

[57:57] >> and I love

[57:58] >> I love the equal I'm sorry. Don't Don't

[58:00] be throwing an equalizer on [laughter]

[58:02] me bust cuz I love I love when he grabs

[58:04] that guy's hand and he goes, "This is a

[58:06] three." [laughter]

[58:10] >> I'm just saying.

[58:11] >> Yeah, that um Let me let me send this

[58:14] over to Shay real quick. Uh let me let

[58:17] me know when you're ready to play the

[58:19] Beekeeper, too. Um so um [snorts]

[58:24] but the that's kind of the the the the

[58:27] some of the deaths. Oh, that was quick.

[58:30] Some of the deaths in Equalizer. The

[58:33] Italians are The thing with the Italians

[58:35] is unbelievable.

[58:36] >> No, it's fantastic.

[58:37] >> I love that he killed what's his nuts,

[58:39] Pedro Pascal in the second one.

[58:41] >> Yeah.

[58:41] >> Right. But then I get to the Sitha

[58:43] movies and I watched the I never watched

[58:45] the Meg movies until the last 30 days.

[58:48] >> Yeah,

[58:49] >> that is [laughter]

[58:51] >> the funniest crap.

[58:53] So, just put your headphone up to your

[58:55] ear.

[58:56] >> And as part of a a year of scholarship

[58:59] of Jason Staithm movies,

[59:01] Beekeeper 2, let's go.

[59:07] Watch this. There's a bee on his finger.

[59:08] Watch this. This is awesome.

[59:11] Oh, see,

[59:12] >> you were the [music] most dangerous

[59:13] operative they've ever created.

[59:15] >> Hello, little bee.

[59:17] But now the beekeepers have gone rogue.

[59:21] And you're the only one who can stop

[59:23] them.

[59:26] [music]

[59:27] >> The beekeepers want complete control of

[59:29] the government. And they're prepared

[59:31] [music] to kill anyone that gets in the

[59:32] way.

[59:35] [groaning and screaming]

[59:35] >> Oh, that's going to hurt.

[59:36] >> If we're going to go up against the

[59:37] beekeepers, we're going to do it my way.

[59:39] >> I would hope for nothing less.

[59:41] >> Yeah.

[59:43] [music]

[59:44] >> I got you a car.

[59:47] 1969 Dodge Super

[59:51] >> fully loaded with Stinger.

[59:57] >> Oh,

[60:01] you got a machine gun mounted on. Thank

[60:04] you.

[60:04] >> Welcome back.

[60:10] [screaming]

[60:14] Next time, don't be so hardheaded.

[60:21] >> Now, if you guys want to make this a

[60:22] viewer event where you come with me and

[60:24] Mark to the Beekeeper 2.

[60:26] >> Now, we could do that.

[60:27] >> We can guarantee the Beekeeper 2 will be

[60:29] much better than Asteroid City.

[60:31] >> Oh, for sure. There's no question about

[60:34] that.

[60:34] >> Now, the Meg 2, and if you haven't seen

[60:36] it, I'm sorry. The what? One of the

[60:37] great Have you seen the Meg movies?

[60:39] >> Yeah. Yeah. when he kills the Meg with

[60:42] the broken helicopter rotor.

[60:44] >> Yeah.

[60:45] >> And he just makes the shark come at it

[60:46] and then he puts it in the and impales

[60:48] itself.

[60:48] >> Yeah.

[60:49] >> Come on. That's

[60:50] >> it's it's sweet.

[60:51] >> He makes J John Wayne looks like a wuss.

[60:53] [laughter]

[60:53] >> Like a big giant wuss. So, uh maybe

[60:57] before the show's over, we'll play the

[60:58] the uh the the most the last Jimmy

[61:01] trailer, too, now that I know I can do

[61:03] trailers and I get

[61:04] >> Yeah, that'd be kind of cool.

[61:04] >> Samo doesn't get arrested.

[61:06] >> Yeah.

[61:06] >> So, aerial combat movies. aerial combat

[61:09] movies and and this is something that's

[61:11] been near and dear to me for a long time

[61:13] because as a kid I used to watch all

[61:15] these all these war pictures and and I

[61:18] loved the aerial ones. Um like Dawn

[61:22] Patrol is not on my list but uh I loved

[61:24] Aerrol Flynn and and I thought that was

[61:26] a very very good movie. It didn't make

[61:29] my list because I was really trying to

[61:31] concentrate on the aerial scenes

[61:33] [snorts] um on this list. But um you

[61:37] know, I just I just fell in love with

[61:39] it. But I did a little bit of research

[61:41] on um

[61:44] things that were going on. These planes

[61:45] were so rickety like in World War I for

[61:48] example, you know, they were flying by

[61:50] planes. Did you ever notice, Chris?

[61:52] >> Yes, sir. that the the gun for uh the

[61:57] the American pilots and the Allied

[62:00] pilots was mounted right in front of the

[62:04] pilot. Okay.

[62:05] >> So, how did it not

[62:06] >> where was the propeller propeller?

[62:08] Right. Do you know the answer?

[62:09] >> Did they they they basically coordinated

[62:11] it that

[62:12] >> well listen to this. So, how they how

[62:14] they did it originally? They didn't even

[62:16] think about it. They just did it. Okay.

[62:18] So, guys were shooting up their

[62:20] propellers. So then the first thing they

[62:22] did was they put these deflectors on the

[62:27] on the uh deflector shields on the

[62:29] props.

[62:31] Okay, that sounds like a good idea, but

[62:34] the ricochets could actually come back

[62:38] to the pilot and kill him. So they they

[62:41] thought, well, that's not a very good

[62:42] plan. And so what they did is they came

[62:44] up with these gear synchronization

[62:46] things where where basically uh the the

[62:51] um it was geared toward uh the bullets

[62:54] flying through the empty space in the

[62:56] prop. But I mean think about that

[62:58] technology to be able to do that in in a

[63:01] very infancy stage of aviation. They

[63:04] came up with this plan and it worked and

[63:07] and it's amazing. But again, here we

[63:10] when in World War I, you're you're

[63:12] looking at Germany having superior

[63:15] uh planes and super it it was it was

[63:18] amazing how much better they were. Our

[63:20] planes were so rickety and everything.

[63:22] It was just amazing.

[63:23] >> I love the fact that you had um like

[63:25] really the beginning of uh probably

[63:27] aerial combat was probably throwing

[63:29] bombs off of zeppelins andor planes.

[63:31] >> Well, zeppelins zeppelins were a big

[63:33] thing. And as a matter of fact, uh, in

[63:35] one of the movies I'm going to talk

[63:36] about, they attack a Zeppelin and and

[63:39] it's it's amazing because, uh, these

[63:41] things were pretty effective at dropping

[63:43] bombs, um, you know, until they came up

[63:46] with a technology where they could wipe

[63:48] them out pretty easily. But, uh, amazing

[63:51] stuff.

[63:51] >> So, um, the movie I caught on TCM in the

[63:55] last two months was called Zeppelin.

[63:56] >> Oh, really?

[63:57] >> Right. Jan Michael Vincent. No, Michael

[63:59] York. Michael York.

[64:00] >> Michael York. Yeah, Michael Vincent was

[64:03] doing something else. [laughter]

[64:05] >> Forgive, forgive. Uh, Michael York. And

[64:08] it's the idea that the Germans are using

[64:11] and and the way they say that the

[64:13] Zeppelin could get high enough.

[64:14] >> Yeah.

[64:14] >> That they couldn't hit it with whatever

[64:16] guns anti-aircraft [snorts]

[64:17] >> they had at the time kind of thing. So,

[64:19] >> amazing.

[64:20] >> And of course, it's got the overly

[64:21] dramatic

[64:22] >> theatrical poster. It's Zeppelin, you

[64:25] know, and

[64:26] >> it's it's good.

[64:27] >> It is good.

[64:28] >> It's good. Uh, we will play. I I sent I

[64:30] did send Shade Jimmy, but we'll we'll do

[64:32] it before you you leave today. So, so

[64:34] and and the other thing about aerial

[64:35] combat I just want to say, too. Right.

[64:37] >> Sure.

[64:38] >> There's something inherently cool about

[64:41] watching a well choreographed

[64:45] aerial combat scene, right? And it was

[64:49] really And then it's multiplied if you

[64:50] really think about Star Wars.

[64:52] >> Yeah.

[64:53] >> Right. and all those aerial combat. And

[64:55] George Lucas will tell you Yeah. that

[64:57] when he did Star Wars, he was think I

[65:00] leaned back on her, sorry. Um he was

[65:03] thinking World War II.

[65:04] >> Yeah.

[65:05] >> Uh airplanes.

[65:06] >> Well, if you you might be too young to

[65:09] even remember this, but uh the um 12:00

[65:12] high series that was on on ABC was

[65:16] pretty phenomenal. And they had some se

[65:18] because the these predominated with B-52

[65:22] bombers. And again, you had the tail

[65:24] gunners in the back. You had the bubble

[65:26] underneath and the bubble above. And the

[65:28] bubble underneath that that guy was just

[65:32] he was Yeah. I mean, he was locked in

[65:34] down there. You know how many times a

[65:36] guy got wounded and they couldn't even

[65:37] get him out. You know, it was it was

[65:39] just brutal. But um fantastic aerial

[65:43] battle scenes with in 12:00 High. 12:00

[65:46] High was before my time. Yeah. Yeah.

[65:48] >> And I didn't really, but it was in black

[65:49] and white,

[65:50] >> but I was old enough to watch Ba Black

[65:52] Sheep.

[65:53] >> Loved it.

[65:54] >> Black Sheep Squadron, whatever that one.

[65:56] >> Yeah. Well, I I think they It was called

[65:58] both of those things.

[65:59] >> Bobby Conrad.

[66:00] >> I love Robert Conrad. He was a tough son

[66:02] of a gun, man. Why Wild West, man?

[66:04] >> Yeah. The Wild Wild I can still watch

[66:06] Wild Wild West.

[66:06] >> Wild Wild West. I love Absolutely. A

[66:09] great show. But but Bob Black Sheep was

[66:11] great. Papy Py Boington. [snorts]

[66:14] Um, think about how just again

[66:17] interesting if it's got a good script.

[66:19] >> Yep.

[66:19] >> It doesn't matter.

[66:21] >> It doesn't.

[66:21] >> Right. That's why those some of those

[66:23] old Star Treks hold up pretty well.

[66:24] >> To me, writing is everything. It really

[66:26] Yeah. Because when you look at the

[66:27] special effects, some of the Star Trek

[66:29] stuff was a little bit lame, but the

[66:30] writing was so good on those darn

[66:31] things.

[66:32] >> That's why I like all the Stathithm

[66:33] movies is all right. [laughter]

[66:34] >> I don't think so. But

[66:37] >> All right. What's your first?

[66:39] >> First one is uh first one is the first

[66:41] Academy Award winner for best picture,

[66:43] Wings. It was done in 1927.

[66:46] >> It's a World War uh World War I. Uh it's

[66:49] about these two fighter pilots uh who

[66:51] are very good friends and then fall in

[66:53] love with the same girl, but it really

[66:55] is centered on the the dog fights that

[66:58] they have. And it's amazing. This is a

[67:01] silent movie and it is amazing. It still

[67:04] holds up. I watched some scenes of it

[67:06] last night and it's amazing. I mean,

[67:08] what they were able to do. Think about

[67:10] this. In 1927, they're they're they're

[67:13] shooting dog fight scenes. I mean, it's

[67:16] amazing. It it was really really well

[67:18] done. And it stars Clara Bo and uh uh

[67:21] Charles Buddy Rogers, but 94% by the

[67:25] experts on Rotten Tomatoes. They just

[67:27] think it's great. 79% by the audience.

[67:29] So, that's saying a lot because usually

[67:32] silent films just get get destroyed in

[67:35] the ratings and this one still holds up.

[67:37] So, the first Academy Award-winning

[67:39] film,

[67:39] >> Wings.

[67:40] >> Wings. Yeah.

[67:41] >> Um, do you uh what's I don't know if

[67:44] it's on your list, so I don't want to

[67:45] like cramp your style,

[67:46] >> but it it it's related to this, right?

[67:48] So, what's the what's the Howard Hughes

[67:49] film?

[67:50] >> Is that Hell's Angels? It's the one

[67:53] >> uh it's out on my list, but I I don't

[67:55] remember.

[67:55] >> Howard I think someone just put it

[67:57] Howard. And the reason I bring this up

[67:58] again is the idea that it was that early

[68:01] film.

[68:02] >> Yeah.

[68:02] >> Right. Uh about planes. Okay. Hold on.

[68:06] It's got to be Hell's Angels, isn't it?

[68:08] >> Yeah, it's Hell's Angels.

[68:09] >> Okay.

[68:09] >> And so, the reason I want to bring this

[68:11] up real quick is just the idea that

[68:13] Howard [snorts] had the money to do

[68:16] something like this, right? And

[68:19] >> he had the money to do a lot of stuff.

[68:20] >> Absolutely.

[68:21] >> The the what it was the Spruce Goose.

[68:23] >> Yeah, Spruce Goose. But it was the idea

[68:25] that he was so and you'll see in the

[68:28] movie The Aviator, right, with with

[68:30] Leonardo DiCaprio.

[68:31] >> He was so obsessed. Yeah. At that time

[68:35] that he wanted and he did it he had guys

[68:38] on

[68:39] >> he's coordinating like your wings movie,

[68:41] right? Right.

[68:41] >> Guys flying around in other planes with

[68:44] these oldtime cameras.

[68:45] >> I know. Thinking it's amazing

[68:47] >> this kind of stuff.

[68:48] >> Yeah, it was really really something.

[68:49] Anyway, so I just because someone

[68:51] brought up Hell's Angels in the list uh

[68:53] when we Oh, Holden. Um but it it just

[68:56] made sense after your wings thing. So,

[68:58] >> yeah, sure.

[68:58] >> And then Rex says, "As a kid, I had a

[69:00] Steve Canyon helmet."

[69:02] >> Is that the guy?

[69:03] >> I love Steve Canyon, man. I I had I had

[69:06] all the the books.

[69:07] >> He's He was uh I think it was Air Force.

[69:10] Uh

[69:13] >> I don't remember exact This is a long

[69:14] time ago, but I Yeah,

[69:17] >> that was a long time ago. Steve Canyon.

[69:21] What? Who was you? Classic Cold War era

[69:25] military adventure television series

[69:28] from It was on from 58 to 50 58 to 59.

[69:32] >> I always look but but they showed it

[69:33] later on too. But but the thing is those

[69:36] were kind of like propaganda.

[69:39] U and as a as a little kid at that time,

[69:43] you know, you looked at something like

[69:44] that and it was almost like hero

[69:46] worship, you know.

[69:47] >> Absolutely. Uh, let's see. Uh, he was

[69:49] the commander of the Big Thunder Air

[69:51] Force base and an all-around military

[69:53] troubleshooter.

[69:54] >> There you go.

[69:55] >> Dean Frederick's played I don't even

[69:56] know what a Dean Frederick is. God bless

[69:58] him. But the premise is Canyon travels

[70:00] to different bases to handle highstakes

[70:02] missions, test flights, and crisis

[70:04] management while balancing everyday

[70:07] military and personal challenges.

[70:09] >> I had a couple of his Steve Canyon

[70:10] books, too. Yeah.

[70:12] >> And it also says based on a popular

[70:14] comic strip.

[70:15] >> Yeah.

[70:15] >> Created by Milton. See, I'm learning

[70:17] today. I love I love Look at me. I'm

[70:19] learning. [laughter] I love learning.

[70:21] Love learning. Hey, we got to go to

[70:22] break. It's 7:01. We're hanging out with

[70:24] our good friend Mark Van Beern.

[70:25] >> Nine more to go.

[70:26] >> Absolutely. David Samurano a show 8:00.

[70:29] He's got a I think he's got one of the

[70:31] Morirana K9 officers. The dog better be

[70:33] here. Samurano, we better have the dog

[70:35] here. And then Edgar Sodto, who I have

[70:37] to talk to Edgar on the show next week.

[70:39] He wanted to come on after I went after

[70:41] him. And I like Edgar, but his attacks

[70:43] on Chris King about public safety were

[70:46] mildly pathetic,

[70:47] >> but that's the way the game's played.

[70:48] No,

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[75:08] I I I love my new my new graphic there.

[75:09] I'm looking off into the future.

[75:12] >> That's the Barrymore. That's the

[75:13] Barrymore pose.

[75:14] >> That's right. [laughter]

[75:15] >> Don't you remember Curly and the Three

[75:17] Stooges? He he he's got this one profile

[75:19] picture and he goes, "Mo, I'm looking

[75:21] more like my like more and more like

[75:22] Barrymore." And he goes, "No, [laughter]

[75:24] you're not."

[75:26] Well, welcome back. It's Friday. Hey, I

[75:28] want to thank uh Ted and Shel for

[75:30] filling in for me yesterday while I was

[75:32] up in Phoenix. And then tomorrow is our

[75:36] live remote at the pumpkin patch in

[75:38] Morirana. Y

[75:39] >> So, we're praying that the winds will

[75:41] die down hopefully overnight. It should

[75:43] be a little breezy. Supposed to be

[75:44] overcast and like 72 tomorrow or

[75:46] something crazy like that.

[75:47] >> Yeah. I just When do the winds die down?

[75:49] Is it

[75:50] >> supposedly overnight we're supposed to

[75:51] So, hopefully we'll be good, but it'll

[75:53] still be great. So, come out and see us

[75:55] at the pumpkin patch 9 to 11. Ron's

[75:57] going to be with me. Ron Arenas and then

[75:59] Ciscomani is going to pop in by John

[76:02] Post cuz he owns the place will kick off

[76:04] the show with us and Clint's coming on

[76:07] at 10 cuz him and Tammy are helping them

[76:09] with their food operations. He's going

[76:10] to we're going to do like a food

[76:12] Saturday of the stuff that they have

[76:13] >> at the pumpkin patch. So,

[76:15] >> can you reveal any of the things that

[76:16] he's making or what's

[76:17] >> Well, they're doing like this they're

[76:19] doing like smash burgers now out there.

[76:21] Okay. And then they're making these

[76:22] homemade like pumpkin pie tartlets that

[76:25] are supposedly nice

[76:26] >> pretty amazing. So I do not want the

[76:29] wine slushie though. I will not.

[76:31] [laughter]

[76:32] >> Do you remember? Well, you might be

[76:34] young young and remember this, but when

[76:36] I first started drinking when I was 18

[76:38] in New York, um sangria was the thing.

[76:41] Everybody did sangria. Oh, you got to

[76:42] have sangria. You go to a party and

[76:44] there sangria with all the fruit thrown

[76:45] in it and stuff. And I go, "This is

[76:47] awful. [laughter] I never liked it." So,

[76:49] you'll you'll you we're going to go back

[76:51] on the way back machine. We'll never get

[76:52] to these damn movies today. Uh Beef

[76:55] Steak Charlie's. Remember Beef Steak

[76:57] Charlie?

[76:58] >> I do. Actually, that was the first

[77:00] restaurant I ever went to in New York

[77:02] City. We I visited with with a couple of

[77:06] college classmates and we were down

[77:07] there. We went to Beef Steak Charlie's.

[77:09] And I'll never forget it. Listen to

[77:11] this. So, we were young kids. They were

[77:13] big on sangria.

[77:14] >> Yeah. But we were young kids and we

[77:16] didn't know what the hell we were doing.

[77:17] So basically we came up and so the

[77:19] server comes back with with our bill. Uh

[77:23] my buddy hit gave him a credit card and

[77:26] uh she goes I put 20 oh I think it was

[77:28] 15%. I put 15% down uh for a tip. I mean

[77:33] she she was that forward about the whole

[77:35] thing and we were just sitting there

[77:36] going like what? [laughter]

[77:38] >> So we went to the first and last time we

[77:40] went to a beef steak Charlie's cuz they

[77:42] were known for their salad bar and all

[77:44] you can eat shrimp.

[77:45] >> Yeah.

[77:45] >> Right. And so we get up there and you

[77:47] put a hurt on them.

[77:48] >> It's the No, it's the smallest shrimp.

[77:50] Whatever the the shrimp that's

[77:52] [laughter] neck size above a big

[77:53] >> I make I make like a shrimp salad and I

[77:55] I buy those little shrimp and that's

[77:57] pretty good. But yeah, I know what

[77:58] you're talking about.

[77:59] >> Do you know that the shrimp rings now

[78:00] have blue? Uh

[78:01] >> I do. I do. I every every time I see

[78:04] something new with the shrimp ring, I I

[78:06] take a picture and send it to you.

[78:08] >> It's part of the lore of this show.

[78:09] [laughter] People sending me shrimping.

[78:11] Uh Bruce Ash, Steve Canyon was awesome.

[78:14] He flew an F1 F104 and based on a comic

[78:17] strip.

[78:18] >> Yeah,

[78:19] >> let's just pull the band-aid off. Sorry

[78:20] that your Dodgers suck so bad against

[78:22] the

[78:22] >> That was a very bad showing. [laughter]

[78:25] >> But I'll tell you what, the Brewers are

[78:26] the real deal, man. I I I look for them

[78:29] to win the whole thing. They they are

[78:30] really they won more games than anybody

[78:32] in baseball and they're they were solid.

[78:34] I

[78:34] >> I think it was I think it was on Mad Dog

[78:36] they were talking about the Dodgers

[78:38] starting P staff makes $90 million a

[78:40] year and the total, right? and the

[78:43] Brewers makes $3 million.

[78:44] >> Well, you know, there's probably going

[78:45] to be a lockout next year and the the

[78:47] the bone of contention for that is um

[78:51] the owners want a salary cap, a hard

[78:53] salary cap. And and the players like,

[78:56] "Why do you want a hard salary cap?" He

[78:58] goes, "You're probably going to have two

[79:00] teams in the World Series this year that

[79:03] have some of the lowest payrolls and

[79:05] they're able to win when you got the

[79:07] Dodgers and the Mets and the Yankees all

[79:09] sitting on the outside." So, it's just

[79:14] the reason football works so well, the

[79:16] NFL, because there's parody built into

[79:18] the thing. And the fact of the matter is

[79:20] there is a hard salary cap and you can't

[79:22] go over it. And so, that works. Um, and

[79:26] it really evens the playing field. So,

[79:28] >> non-g guaranteed contracts in the NFL is

[79:30] also part of their now. They pay crazy

[79:32] salaries for some of these quarterbacks,

[79:34] but if you suck, they just got to wait

[79:36] till the end of the year and they can

[79:37] get rid of you.

[79:37] >> Yeah, I know. It's just it's crazy. So,

[79:40] it it's

[79:41] >> no Bobby Bonia deals in the NFL.

[79:43] >> No. And and the other sport news I'll

[79:45] give you is that I just read this coming

[79:47] in where uh 24 um uh it looks like the

[79:51] NCA is going to come up with a 24 and I

[79:54] said this I said this like 10 years ago.

[79:56] They they're going to come up with a 24

[79:59] uh playoff team concept. And I said they

[80:01] should have done that a long long time

[80:03] ago.

[80:03] >> I did see the u

[80:05] >> Yeah.

[80:05] >> Uh the billboard when I was in Phoenix.

[80:07] >> Yeah. Uh uh Bidwells, please sell the

[80:10] Cardinals. [laughter] They raised enough

[80:12] money on a GoFundMe to buy the the

[80:13] billboards. [sighs] So, it'll be fun.

[80:16] They'll get there one day. Uh anyway, I

[80:18] don't think so. We're doing aerial

[80:19] combat movies with our friend

[80:20] >> and I just the the next one I'm excited

[80:22] about because I saw it this week and uh

[80:25] it's called Fly Boys. It stars James

[80:28] Franco. Again, another World War I film

[80:33] about dog fights. Um I loved it. You can

[80:36] see it on Tuby and it's basically uh

[80:39] what what happened is in World War I a

[80:43] lot of the allies including France were

[80:45] getting wiped out like all these guys

[80:47] were dying. So the America wasn't in the

[80:50] war yet. So they were trying to recruit

[80:52] Americans to come over and they they

[80:53] they show advertisements in movie

[80:56] theaters and they put ads in newspapers

[80:58] and stuff. Well, James Franco's one of

[81:00] these guys. He's he's in Texas and uh

[81:03] his ranch is getting repossessed. So he

[81:05] decides, you know what? I'm going over

[81:07] to France and I'm going to learn how to

[81:09] fly. So these guys come over and uh the

[81:12] the name of the group, it's it's a real

[81:15] a real group was Lafayette Escadril.

[81:19] And [snorts] these guys go over there,

[81:21] learn how to fly, and then they put them

[81:23] up. And their first mission is ab

[81:27] intense. I mean, they're in this dog

[81:29] fight. They got anti-aircraft uh you

[81:32] know, things being shot at them. It's

[81:34] it's absolutely amazing. And the story

[81:36] is really good, too. Uh there's a little

[81:38] bit of romance in it, but uh these guys

[81:40] were absolutely amazing. And again,

[81:42] you're you're looking at very new

[81:44] technology and you know, and the

[81:47] equipment just wasn't that good. And and

[81:49] one of the things they used to do with

[81:51] the pilots is they would hand them a

[81:54] hammer and they would give them a

[81:56] revolver. And so the new guys are

[81:58] asking, "Well, what's this for?" And

[82:00] they said, "Well, the the hammer is

[82:02] sometimes your bullets gets gets locked

[82:05] up and you got you got to bang on the uh

[82:07] you got to bang on the machine gun to to

[82:09] to loosen it up

[82:11] >> um so it'll work." And they go, "What's

[82:13] the revolver for?" And they go, "Well,

[82:15] you know, if you get hit and you're

[82:17] wounded and your plane's on fire and

[82:19] you're, you know, you're 3,000 ft in the

[82:21] air, um

[82:22] >> blow your brains out."

[82:23] >> Yeah. Yeah. That's what it is. I think

[82:26] about how precar think about how

[82:29] precarious it is to do f any sort of

[82:31] aerial combat even today.

[82:33] >> Mhm.

[82:34] >> Well, you're in these rickety old pieces

[82:36] of crap.

[82:36] >> It was unbelievable. It really these

[82:38] guys were true heroes. And for them to

[82:40] go up over and over and over again, it

[82:43] was amazing. And one of the guys

[82:45] actually, you know, he he comes down

[82:47] with he's having fits and he can't go up

[82:49] anymore because it's just like the

[82:50] stress level is like it's it's

[82:53] incomprehensible. It's unbelievable. You

[82:55] know, for some of you, you're saying

[82:56] your introduction to this was like the

[82:57] Steve Canyon thing when you were a kid.

[82:59] For me, it was Snoopy flying a Sop with

[83:02] Camel. Just want to let everyone know

[83:03] that. So, back to the classics, baby.

[83:06] What's your next one?

[83:07] >> Uh, the next one is Tuskegee Airman.

[83:10] And, uh, this is this is a Lawrence

[83:13] Fishburn film, and it was released in

[83:15] 1995. You can see it on Max. Um, what I

[83:19] love about all these films, you can

[83:20] almost see them on everything. There's

[83:21] they're streaming on everything. And um

[83:24] it was 88% on Rotten Tomatoes and ju

[83:26] just a great uh documentary and I think

[83:29] they do a great job, you know, really

[83:32] depicting what these guys went through.

[83:34] They they they they train in Tuskegee,

[83:36] Alabama. Um obviously there's a lot of

[83:39] prejudice because they're all black

[83:41] Americans and that type of thing and

[83:42] they didn't think they could fly planes

[83:44] and these guys ended up being heroes and

[83:46] really really really good pilots and uh

[83:49] I think they do a great job with this

[83:51] film.

[83:51] >> It's interesting. So, this is HBO flick

[83:53] originally. Okay.

[83:55] >> But I'm looking at the um

[83:58] the cast.

[84:00] >> I kind of know like almost everyone in

[84:02] this cast, right?

[84:03] >> From like they were either a star

[84:04] [snorts] before. So, Malcolm Jamal is in

[84:07] this, right?

[84:08] >> But Courtney Vance, right? So, Courtney

[84:10] Vance is one of the DAs on Law and

[84:12] Order. He was the preacher and the

[84:14] preachers's wife with Denzel Washington.

[84:16] >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[84:16] >> Right. Yeah, Andrea Brower, of course,

[84:19] was on uh that that comedy show with

[84:22] Andy Samberg and the Chief, the other

[84:25] one. Uh Christopher McDonald, of course,

[84:28] is shooter McGawan for

[84:30] >> Oh, that's right. That's right. Yeah,

[84:32] you're right.

[84:33] >> Uh Mecky Feifer, I think that's uh Bubba

[84:36] Gump, right? Lithggo, and then Cuba

[84:38] Gooding Jr.'s in this. Yeah, I think

[84:41] Cuba Gooding is a good cast, but it it

[84:43] it I read a lot of different reviews and

[84:46] they just said, "Geez, they really

[84:48] really captured what what these guys

[84:50] went through, you know, it's amazing."

[84:52] >> Always fascinated, you know, when I when

[84:54] we talk about this any of these movies.

[84:56] >> Yeah.

[84:57] >> And now I was looking at Fly Boys and it

[85:00] reviews are mixed on Fly Boys.

[85:02] >> I You know what though, K and I'm I'm

[85:03] being really honest. I didn't look at

[85:05] the reviews. I just watched the movie.

[85:07] That's what I want.

[85:07] >> And I love I I absolutely love the film.

[85:10] And they can criticize it all they want.

[85:12] The the the the aerial scenes are

[85:15] phenomenal. And I I like the story. I

[85:18] thought the story was really good.

[85:19] >> The um I wanted to um

[85:23] >> when we look I always love the

[85:24] difference between the uh fans and the

[85:26] we always the fans and the critics. So

[85:28] >> uh not too bad on Tus Tuskegee. Uh 88 on

[85:32] the review.

[85:33] >> 79. Yeah.

[85:33] >> 79. So

[85:34] >> yeah. Um, I I like it. I like this movie

[85:37] a lot.

[85:38] >> I like it a lot, too.

[85:38] >> What's your next one? Ne

[85:39] >> next one I also like a lot. I saw it the

[85:42] opening week that it came out was

[85:43] Dunkirk. And uh you don't really think

[85:45] of it as an aerial film because it was

[85:47] about these guys being, you know,

[85:49] trapped. Uh but it was an aerial film

[85:52] because they needed to have they needed

[85:54] to to protect these guys from uh the

[85:57] Lufwafa in World War II. they had

[86:00] because they would have just taken them

[86:02] out on the beach um you know with with

[86:05] all these strikes and uh and so the RAF

[86:08] and the Americans were uh protecting

[86:10] them you know from above and uh really

[86:13] really good movie uh you know I I just

[86:17] was really I actually saw the movie

[86:19] twice because I I liked it that much. I

[86:22] thought it was really a good depiction

[86:24] of what was going on at that time. And

[86:26] of course, everybody was really um I

[86:29] think when you watch the film and

[86:30] realize that all these fishing boats and

[86:33] everything came to rescue these guys uh

[86:36] civilians and stuff, it was pretty an

[86:38] amazing film.

[86:38] >> So this is a Christopher Nolan,

[86:40] >> right?

[86:41] >> Film.

[86:41] >> Yep.

[86:42] >> And what's really awesome about this um

[86:44] I I was just reading that it was the

[86:47] until they call of course Oenheimer a

[86:50] World War II movie, which is also his a

[86:52] Nolan film, right?

[86:53] >> Yeah.

[86:53] >> But World War II movie. This was the

[86:56] highest grossing World War II movie at

[86:59] the time.

[87:00] >> Yeah.

[87:00] >> I said until Oppenheimer came around,

[87:03] right? So, this made a half of $530

[87:05] million worldwide, making the highest

[87:08] gross until that. And this was I

[87:11] remember seeing the trailer and being

[87:13] pumped.

[87:13] >> Yeah, it's it's one of those movies that

[87:15] really makes you feel good about what

[87:17] what we were doing over there and and

[87:20] how everybody came together and, you

[87:22] know, it wasn't just a military thing.

[87:24] Like I said, a lot of civilians got

[87:25] involved with the thing and um it really

[87:28] it made you feel good about what they

[87:30] were doing.

[87:31] >> I thought um Mark Riyance, right, he was

[87:35] the dad

[87:36] >> with a with the boat.

[87:37] >> Yeah.

[87:38] >> I mean, he was

[87:39] >> Yeah, it was pretty bad.

[87:41] >> It was a very moving film and and you

[87:43] can see this on Apple TV right now. So,

[87:45] >> well, the other thing too is right is

[87:46] Nolan's very doesn't like to use a lot

[87:48] of uh CGI in his stuff. So,

[87:51] >> which I I admire that too because I I

[87:54] think that's the easy way out a lot of

[87:55] times and I and I think when when you're

[87:57] really trying to shoot live film, um it

[88:01] really shows up well on the screen.

[88:03] [snorts]

[88:03] >> Uh the other thing is Tom Hardy is one

[88:05] of the pilots and I don't think you ever

[88:07] I don't think his mask ever comes off

[88:08] his air mask.

[88:09] >> Yeah, it's kind of tough to recognize

[88:11] who it is,

[88:12] >> which is okay. I mean, I like the idea

[88:13] that they were

[88:15] >> I saw the same thing in Fly Boys. A lot

[88:17] of times I go, "Is that James Franco or

[88:18] not?" I can't tell because he's got the

[88:20] mask on and everything. So,

[88:21] >> Yep. So, again, uh you can't you can't

[88:24] go wrong with uh D.

[88:25] >> Oh, another thing about the M on the

[88:27] research. So, when these guys wore the

[88:29] mask, they they had it wasn't plastic,

[88:32] so they had glass uh over the thing. And

[88:35] a lot of times what would happen if

[88:36] there was an explosion of some sort on

[88:39] the the glass would break and blind

[88:42] them. You know, it it's just it was so

[88:44] perilous for these guys. It was just

[88:46] amazing. They were true heroes. I'm sure

[88:48] there's got to be some good documentary

[88:50] series on that was done about the kind

[88:52] of the history of the development of

[88:55] aerial combat over the years.

[88:57] >> When you think about it, it came fast

[88:58] and furious. I mean, can you imagine

[89:00] they just put a machine gun on there and

[89:02] said, "Well, the propeller will be

[89:04] okay." [laughter]

[89:05] >> Really?

[89:06] >> Uh Pat Hirs, I remember Steve Canyon. Uh

[89:09] Murf 88. He [laughter] I don't think

[89:11] this is on your uh list. He has Doctor

[89:13] Strange glove.

[89:14] >> No, it didn't make the list. Slim

[89:16] thickens in a B-52 Strato Fortress,

[89:18] reading the contents of his survival

[89:20] kit. Quote, "Fell could have a heck of a

[89:22] time in Vegas." Unquote. And he says,

[89:23] "Honorable mention."

[89:25] >> Uh Pat,

[89:27] um Umpire John, our A-10 pilot, 12:00

[89:31] high, was used by the Air Force to train

[89:34] leadership.

[89:35] >> I actually uh taught service classes and

[89:38] management classes for Marriott. I went

[89:40] around the whole country and did that

[89:42] and really enjoyed it. And the the

[89:45] number one aid I had was showing clips

[89:48] of 12:00 high because it has some of the

[89:51] best leadership

[89:53] um examples there possibly could be and

[89:55] I'm going to talk about that film

[89:56] because it is on my list.

[89:59] >> Um just on the on the FA I just want to

[90:01] catch up on live chat. Bev yes on Josh

[90:03] running against Rex Scott. Uh Mike uh

[90:06] they keep dumbing down our education

[90:07] system. Kids can't budget can't think

[90:09] for themselves and are more and more

[90:11] entitled.

[90:12] Yes. [laughter]

[90:15] And then Bev, I have the DVD for 12

[90:17] o'clock.

[90:17] >> There's some good things happening in

[90:19] education in the country, though,

[90:20] because I told you about Louisiana and I

[90:23] believe Alabama are both uh putting some

[90:26] new things in their curriculums and they

[90:28] have seen some miraculous improvement.

[90:31] And so I think everybody needs to start

[90:34] taking a look at that kind of stuff and

[90:35] and get back to the basics.

[90:37] >> It's about the will.

[90:38] >> Yeah. to go back to the basics and admit

[90:41] maybe this is the hard part, right?

[90:43] Because pride's aes

[90:44] >> we were wrong.

[90:44] >> Yeah.

[90:45] >> You know, and to me talking about

[90:47] leadership again, isn't a great leader

[90:50] one of those people that can say, you

[90:52] know what, I made a mistake or there's a

[90:55] better way to do this and let's go in

[90:58] that direction. And that takes a real

[91:00] leader to be able to do that. And

[91:01] unfortunately, we have a lot of people

[91:03] in polit politics today that are not. I

[91:06] remember uh old tourism commission. I

[91:09] don't know there. Anyway, [laughter]

[91:11] >> what's your next movie?

[91:12] >> Uh next one up is uh Behind Enemy Lines.

[91:15] And this was as kind as a sleeper for

[91:16] me. I I remember seeing it. Um the

[91:19] reviews aren't the greatest on this, but

[91:21] I I actually think Owen Wilson is in

[91:23] this and is probably his best movie and

[91:26] I'm not a big fan of his. Right. What?

[91:28] But but I think Owen Wilson is very good

[91:31] in this. He plays a pilot, a US Navy

[91:33] pilot in World War II and uh he gets

[91:37] shot down uh over Bosnia and he has to

[91:40] make it back to um he has to make it

[91:43] back uh to survive, right? And Jean

[91:47] Hackman uh is is going against orders

[91:51] and he's trying to rescue this guy. And

[91:54] uh it's it's an amazing film. I I really

[91:57] really like it a lot. Uh you can see it

[91:59] on Paramount Plus. the um so of course

[92:03] Jean Hackman

[92:05] >> Jean Hackman is just I I think he's

[92:07] solid in almost anything I've ever seen

[92:09] him in when you really when you go back

[92:11] to French Connection and Hooers and all

[92:13] that stuff. He's just a really

[92:14] >> I know we've done a Gene Hackman day.

[92:16] >> Yeah, we did. And it's hard to find a

[92:19] film that he's bad in. I

[92:20] >> I don't think he is bad because he could

[92:22] be in a bad film but be good in it.

[92:24] >> I mean he's the guy who classes up the

[92:26] Superman movie with Christopher Ree.

[92:28] >> Oh, big time. Yeah, I agree. Right.

[92:30] Christopher Ree was an excellent

[92:31] Superman, don't get me wrong, but I'm

[92:33] just saying

[92:34] >> yeah,

[92:34] >> Jean Hackman was he's just always so

[92:36] good. And um

[92:38] >> and so it's interesting. So very I mean

[92:40] this is I mean it was it was it was

[92:42] timely, right? It's the idea that um the

[92:44] Bosnian war was still fresh in people's

[92:47] memory, right? And there really aren't

[92:48] that many movies about Americanmade

[92:50] movies at least about anything related

[92:53] to the Bosnian war.

[92:54] >> No.

[92:55] >> Right. What was the year?

[92:56] >> This came out in 2001.

[92:57] >> Yeah.

[92:58] >> Yeah.

[92:58] >> Right. So a few years later this thing

[93:00] come and again Owen William o Owen

[93:02] Wilson

[93:04] >> I I think he's one of the most overrated

[93:06] actors there is like I said I think he's

[93:08] good in this but I have seen him and on

[93:10] many things and I'm always dis like I'll

[93:13] give you another example Marley and me I

[93:14] think he was so miscast for that movie

[93:16] it was unbelievable just just terrible

[93:19] but um like I said he was very good in

[93:22] this

[93:23] >> never act with dogs I think W's animals

[93:25] and kids [laughter]

[93:26] >> well that's a WC Fields thing yeah you I

[93:28] think uh if I was if I was going to tell

[93:30] you right now um an Owen Wilson role

[93:33] that I like him in.

[93:34] >> Okay.

[93:34] >> And there aren't that many.

[93:36] >> Shoot.

[93:36] >> It's um it's it's a Wes Anderson. It's

[93:39] the one Life Aquatic where he plays Oh,

[93:41] yeah. Bill Murray's uh

[93:43] >> Possible Son. [laughter]

[93:45] >> They're kind of funny together. So,

[93:47] that's all I'll say there. So,

[93:48] >> uh let's do one more and then we got to

[93:50] go to break.

[93:50] >> All right. Top Gun Maverick. I had to

[93:52] put these in there. Um actually, we can

[93:54] do them both. Top Gun and Top Gun

[93:56] Maverick. put them in as separate.

[93:58] >> Yeah, I put them in a separate. But but

[94:00] the thing is you can see Top Gun

[94:01] Maverick on Netflix and uh Top Gun

[94:03] Paramount Plus. Top Gun I loved because

[94:06] of the time that it came out. It came

[94:08] out in ' 86 and I I was really pumped

[94:11] watching it. I I've probably seen it a

[94:13] half a dozen times. I thought it was

[94:15] just a really really good film about

[94:18] about uh Tom Cruz plays Pete Mitchell

[94:21] and uh he uh is his the guy he goes up

[94:25] against all the time is Val Kilmer

[94:27] because Val Kilmer is this cool calm

[94:29] collected pilot and and uh and and

[94:32] Maverick is is play played by uh played

[94:36] by Cruz is this guy who's reckless

[94:39] abandoned and doesn't always follow the

[94:41] rules and that type of thing. But it

[94:43] really I think I think the fight scenes

[94:44] in it are the you the aerial fight

[94:46] scenes in it are very very good and uh

[94:49] it always gets me pumped. I think the

[94:51] music in it is also very very good. It's

[94:53] 83% on Rotten Tomatoes by the audience

[94:56] and I just uh I really liked it a lot.

[94:58] Kelly McGillis was the uh [snorts] was

[95:00] the romantic um person in it with Tom

[95:04] Cruz.

[95:05] >> This movie

[95:06] >> Yes. just hit there's like there there's

[95:09] a there's um

[95:10] >> there's a know your audience timing.

[95:13] >> Yeah.

[95:14] >> Like thing here, right?

[95:15] >> It's perfect.

[95:16] >> Right. You're right.

[95:17] >> So, we got Reagan.

[95:19] >> Yeah.

[95:19] >> Right. We're coming out of the demise

[95:21] the the the the 70s and the Carter crap,

[95:24] right?

[95:25] >> People are making money. We got a cold

[95:28] war thing going on, right?

[95:31] >> Yeah.

[95:32] >> America

[95:33] >> against Russia. USSR,

[95:36] >> right? The the the country national

[95:38] pride was hot and heavy

[95:40] >> big time,

[95:40] >> right? But then you said about the the

[95:42] soundtrack was very important, right?

[95:44] >> It was fantastic.

[95:45] >> So I mean, yes, did Kenny Loggins do

[95:48] some great songs. It's true. But this

[95:51] song defined the movie,

[95:54] >> right? And it got you pumped for the

[95:56] movie.

[95:57] >> No question about it.

[95:58] >> Right. Whoever Whoever I'm sure Kenny

[96:00] wrote it, he writes a lot of his own

[96:01] songs, but you never know. Yeah. But

[96:03] even just the beginning 10 seconds of

[96:06] Danger Zone, right? But then all the M

[96:09] that that soundtrack sold a truckload.

[96:11] >> Oh, big time,

[96:13] >> right? Yeah.

[96:13] >> And then even the Top Gun Anthem, you

[96:15] know, with the guitars with Harold

[96:17] Faltomire. Yeah.

[96:19] >> You're like, "Yeah, let's go." Right.

[96:22] >> Everything about the movie I just really

[96:24] love. And and a couple of years ago, we

[96:25] were on a cruise, and this guy that was

[96:27] giving some talks on the cruise was was

[96:29] basically the uh production manager uh

[96:33] on on on tours for Fleetwood Mac. Very

[96:37] interesting guy. Had very had several

[96:40] conversations with him. But guess what

[96:43] he said? Bringing it back to Top Gun.

[96:46] The house that Tom Cruz pulls up in his

[96:49] motorcycle with to meet Kelly McGillis,

[96:53] she's living there, is that guy's house,

[96:56] the actual guy. And he said, he goes,

[96:58] "That'll be [laughter] he goes that's

[97:00] one of the most popular movies there

[97:02] is." And so many people have come to me

[97:03] and wanted to buy my house and I'll

[97:05] never sell it. So it was just kind of

[97:06] cool for me, but just a great movie.

[97:08] >> So my thing before we go, so Maverick

[97:11] >> Yeah.

[97:11] >> Right. Again, timing is everything.

[97:14] >> Yeah. They delayed the release of this

[97:17] movie.

[97:17] >> Uhhuh.

[97:18] >> Right. Because it was COVID time, right?

[97:21] >> But we were just kind of coming out of

[97:22] CO. This was like the first movie that I

[97:25] went to go see.

[97:26] >> Oh, in the movie theater. Yeah. Yeah.

[97:28] Yeah. Yeah. So, I I think actually this

[97:31] movie is the Maverick movie is rated

[97:33] higher. Um I think some of the

[97:36] maneuverability and the the the the

[97:38] things the stunts that they had to do

[97:40] going through the mountains and all that

[97:41] kind of stuff was just really really

[97:43] interesting for a lot of people. And I

[97:44] think those scenes that the way they

[97:46] shot them were it was fantastic.

[97:47] >> The story is actually worse in Maverick

[97:50] than the first one. I think personally I

[97:52] >> Right. It's so trit. Right. The idea of

[97:55] going Think about this. They got to go

[97:57] down a canyon.

[97:58] >> Yeah.

[97:58] >> And they have to make an impossible

[98:00] missile hit into a hole.

[98:01] >> Right. And then they got to climb out

[98:04] without hitting a mountain.

[98:04] >> Episode four of the [laughter] first

[98:06] Star Wars.

[98:07] >> Well, right. I'm not of course.

[98:10] >> Here's the other thing about Maverick.

[98:12] >> Yeah. and the culture. All right.

[98:14] >> Yeah.

[98:15] >> We were getting so sick of the DEI of

[98:19] Hollywood.

[98:20] >> Right.

[98:21] >> Right. This ignored all that.

[98:23] >> Right.

[98:24] >> Right. There were white guys running

[98:26] around on blowing up crap on planes.

[98:29] >> Right.

[98:29] >> Right. Which after Marvel and Star Wars

[98:32] was feminizing, deeying everything.

[98:35] Okay.

[98:35] >> There was part of America that said, "I

[98:37] just want to watch guys in planes

[98:39] blowing crap up." Well, there you go.

[98:42] That's what it is.

[98:43] >> And that's what happened.

[98:44] >> And people loved it.

[98:46] >> So, all right.

[98:46] >> 99% by the audience

[98:49] >> for Maverick.

[98:50] >> Yes.

[98:50] >> That's insane.

[98:51] >> Yeah. And only 83% for Top Gun. But,

[98:54] >> uh, holidays today, it's uh, National

[98:58] Mimography Day.

[98:59] >> Mimography Day.

[99:01] >> Get your mamogram.

[99:02] >> Yeah.

[99:02] >> Uh, National Department Store Day.

[99:05] [laughter]

[99:05] >> Yeah. Good luck with that.

[99:08] >> National Dictionary Day. Good luck with

[99:10] all that.

[99:11] Hey, I still pull mine out every once in

[99:13] a while.

[99:14] >> National [snorts] Learn a Word Day

[99:17] and World Bread Day.

[99:21] >> Like bread.

[99:23] >> Wish I didn't like it so much, but you

[99:25] know,

[99:25] >> as Jacqu Pap once said, the French chef

[99:28] guy.

[99:29] >> Yeah, love him.

[99:30] >> There's nothing better than a really

[99:31] good baked bread with just butter on.

[99:33] >> I don't know if you've seen his I don't

[99:34] know if you've seen his videos on

[99:36] YouTube. He's fantastic. the I watched

[99:39] him make an omelette the other day and

[99:41] it was just like so simple and so well

[99:43] done and it's just like yeah that's the

[99:45] way it is.

[99:46] >> Jacqu,

[99:47] >> he's fantastic chef.

[99:48] >> All right, we're going to go to break.

[99:49] Uh Bruce, thanks for rubbing it in. The

[99:51] positive way is the U of A game started

[99:53] at 8:08 last night. Thank you with his

[99:56] Dodgers getting [laughter] rolled by a

[99:58] bunch of

[99:59] >> They got rolled

[99:59] >> beer drinkers.

[100:00] >> Hey, you can't win them all, man. Two in

[100:02] a row they won, you know.

[100:03] >> Well, the best team money could buy, as

[100:05] we like to say.

[100:06] >> Absolutely. All right, another segment

[100:07] with our good friend Mark. And uh

[100:09] remember tomorrow live at the Morirana

[100:12] Pumpkin Patch from 9 to 11. Should be a

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[104:30] Oh,

[104:33] perfect words just said. Mark looks like

[104:36] Bennett surf from

[104:38] >> I mean I've seen some clips of Kitty

[104:40] Carile and you know uh what the hell was

[104:43] his name?

[104:46] >> I don't know who that is.

[104:48] >> I [laughter]

[104:54] don't know who that is though.

[104:55] >> That's Bennett Surf.

[104:56] >> No, I know. What the Who [laughter] was

[104:58] he?

[104:59] >> Bennett Surf. I don't know who he is.

[105:01] >> He's a high society guy or something.

[105:03] American writer. Oh, co-founder of uh

[105:07] Random House Books.

[105:09] >> Oh, okay.

[105:10] >> 1898 to 1971.

[105:13] Bennett Surf. I think you're much more

[105:15] handsome than

[105:15] >> Carly Simon was uh came from a very

[105:18] wealthy family in publishing. So,

[105:21] >> I think you're much regularly more

[105:23] handsome.

[105:23] >> Thank you.

[105:24] >> Than this Bennett surf. [laughter]

[105:26] But thank you for bringing that to us,

[105:28] our [clears throat] lovely viewers and

[105:30] listeners. Uh, do you have uh Battle of

[105:33] Britain on your list?

[105:34] >> No, I got three left.

[105:35] >> I was going to say Battle of Britain's

[105:36] coming up hard several times.

[105:38] >> I can see that. Like I said, I I tried

[105:41] to focus in mostly on the aerial scenes,

[105:44] right? Yeah. So, uh, my next one up is

[105:46] Memphis Bell. And this is a this is a

[105:48] B17 bomber film about uh basically the

[105:52] Memphis Bell kind of a based on a true

[105:54] story type thing where uh they've

[105:57] they're on their 25th mission which is

[105:59] going to be the last mission before they

[106:01] uh before they retire.

[106:03] >> This was the picture I used to promote

[106:04] this on Facebook today was Memphis.

[106:07] >> Okay. All right. Well, it's a good

[106:09] flick. Uh stars Matthew Modí. It came

[106:11] out in 1990 and Eric Stoultz is in it as

[106:15] well. DB Sweeney, one of my favorites. I

[106:18] I was looking at this and I go, DB

[106:20] Sweeney is just one of those guys I wish

[106:21] he had done more things because I think

[106:23] he was a very talented actor, but it

[106:26] just never materialized for him, I

[106:28] guess. But, you know, he he he he's kind

[106:30] of like uh Ben Affleck without being a

[106:32] jerk, right? You know, he's got he looks

[106:35] good. He's got a good he's got a good

[106:37] onscreen presence. And he does. If you

[106:39] said, "Chris, what's the last movie you

[106:40] remember DB?" I I forgot he was even in

[106:42] Memphis.

[106:43] >> Ice skating movie,

[106:44] >> right? Cutting edge. Yeah. Yeah. Which I

[106:46] liked, but you know, like I said, I

[106:47] think he's a talented. But this is about

[106:49] their la their last uh their last

[106:51] mission and uh you know, it's perilous

[106:54] and they have this bombing mission and

[106:56] it's very strategic and they're getting

[106:58] a lot of pressure from the brass to make

[107:00] sure that this is a successful thing and

[107:02] it's uh it's a pretty amazing film.

[107:05] >> This uh I remember when this movie came

[107:07] came out, it was very very big and it

[107:10] had a hell I mean with this cast again.

[107:13] Yeah, there's John Lithow again. He's

[107:15] he's always in those days he was playing

[107:16] every military uh colonel and who's

[107:19] >> he's just got he's got that kind of

[107:20] charisma, you know.

[107:21] >> So Stoultz, Sean Aston, right? Rudy and

[107:24] Sam Gam.

[107:25] >> Oh yeah. Yeah.

[107:25] >> Harry Kik Jr. It had to be you.

[107:29] Wonderful you.

[107:31] [laughter]

[107:32] >> Tate Donovan Lithkow. DB Sweeney, Billy

[107:34] Zayn.

[107:37] >> This movie was this this this movie is a

[107:40] banger, right?

[107:40] >> It is. And [snorts] you were talking

[107:43] about being the guy in the bottom bubble

[107:47] of these bombers.

[107:48] >> I like I said, that's almost like a

[107:51] death mission. It's just like that's

[107:53] terrible because I mean like you're a

[107:55] focal point for any any fighter jet any

[107:58] fighter plane going in and attacking the

[108:01] plane. It's it's [laughter]

[108:03] >> the uh there's one of these suckers at

[108:06] the It's the one that's inside the

[108:08] building at Puma Airspace. Mhm.

[108:11] >> has its own building. It's like the

[108:12] 390th Fighting Squad one or whatever.

[108:14] >> And in those days, I got to crawl

[108:17] through it

[108:18] >> once cuz a buddy of mine worked there.

[108:19] >> Yeah. Let you go in it.

[108:20] >> Okay. First of all, it's not that cramp,

[108:23] baby. And you're a big guy. Can you

[108:25] imagine being down in that thing?

[108:27] >> You

[108:27] >> It's claustrophobic.

[108:28] >> Yeah. You got to be It's better if

[108:30] you're a widow f fella in there than

[108:33] first of all, not just, you know, Dones

[108:35] big, but just the height thing.

[108:37] >> Yeah. It's No. And but I don't like the

[108:39] fact that you're locked in. That's just

[108:41] that, you know, I I'd rather be a tail

[108:43] gunner. I know those guys were kind of

[108:44] like fodder at times, too. But at least

[108:47] you're moving around.

[108:48] >> I think this movie now there's other

[108:49] movies that have talked about these kind

[108:50] of bomber missions and the dynamic. I

[108:52] thought this was the best in um

[108:56] um just the dynamics of what goes down

[108:58] in one of these like the reality of it.

[109:01] >> I thought this was the best film that

[109:03] depicted that. So

[109:04] >> I agree. This is definitely got to be I

[109:06] understand why it's in your top three.

[109:08] So,

[109:08] >> what's your next one?

[109:09] >> Next one up is Tora Tora Tora.

[109:11] >> This has been mentioned multiple times.

[109:12] >> 81% on Rotten Tomatoes and uh you know

[109:16] uh directed by Richard Fleer uh released

[109:19] in 1970. Martin Balsam and Joseph Cotton

[109:22] >> Martin Jason Roards. I mean, it's a good

[109:25] cast and, you know, it's it's uh, you

[109:28] know, it's it's about the events leading

[109:33] up into Pearl Harbor and how the

[109:35] Japanese were able to surprise us

[109:37] completely. And, uh, I think the reason

[109:41] I like the film so much, it isn't

[109:43] one-sided. So many times when you see a

[109:45] military film, it's just shot from the

[109:47] American perspective because it's an

[109:49] American film and you don't really get

[109:51] to see what the other guys are thinking

[109:53] and and quite honestly uh this one does

[109:56] a good job of giving a balanced approach

[109:58] to the whole thing and I think they did

[110:00] a really nice job with it. So

[110:02] >> again, one of the nice parts of Longest

[110:04] Day, right, is you're seeing it from the

[110:06] German perspective also.

[110:08] >> Absolutely.

[110:08] >> In German. Well, yeah, but but see

[110:11] that's the thing and like dos boots too.

[110:14] Same kind of thing. You see see both

[110:16] sides and it's kind of interesting to

[110:18] look at it from that perspective because

[110:20] we have a tendency of thinking, well,

[110:21] we're right because we're the Americans

[110:23] and we're going to win the war and all

[110:24] this stuff, but what about the other

[110:25] guys and what about Yeah. [laughter]

[110:28] >> But anyway, it's it's it's an

[110:30] interesting uh take on the whole thing

[110:32] and uh um certainly uh I think worth

[110:36] worth a view. Again, [snorts]

[110:38] another again, Joseph K. I've forgotten

[110:41] this, too. And James Whitmore.

[110:43] >> Yeah. I mean, you know, it's loaded with

[110:45] very talented actors.

[110:47] >> The uh what year was this again?

[110:48] >> 1970.

[110:50] >> It's got the classic Jerry Goldsmith

[110:51] soundtrack, so that makes total sense.

[110:53] >> Yep.

[110:54] >> I love it.

[110:55] >> Yeah.

[110:56] >> Very, very cool. What's your number one?

[110:58] >> Top one is 12:00 High, 96% on Rotten

[111:01] Tomatoes. And just an absolutely great

[111:03] film. Gregory Peek, Dean Jagger, Gary

[111:07] Merrill. Uh just fantastic. Done in

[111:10] 1949.

[111:11] >> Dean Jagger, the inkeeper from White

[111:13] Christmas.

[111:14] >> Bingo. You're right. Uh another military

[111:17] kind of a military film. So, uh directed

[111:20] by Henry King. But it is um like I said,

[111:24] this this is the epitome of a leadership

[111:29] uh example of a a great leader. Gregory

[111:32] Peek comes in and this squadron is

[111:35] demoralized. They they've lost a lot of

[111:38] people. They they've almost like they've

[111:40] given up. They go into these pre-flight

[111:42] meetings and they're just kind of like

[111:44] dragon tail and just they're not happy.

[111:47] They're they feel just really really

[111:49] bad. Well, uh Gregory Peek comes in and

[111:54] he goes, "That's enough of this stuff.

[111:56] We're going to follow the rules and

[111:57] regulation." He's very strict and they

[112:00] initially they resent the heck out of

[112:02] him, right? But what happens is all of a

[112:05] sudden he starts getting him to conform

[112:07] and act like a real squadron again. And

[112:10] now and and he he puts the screws to him

[112:13] and he gets he gets the most he could

[112:15] possibly get out of a group and he turns

[112:17] it totally around and it is so good. And

[112:20] uh it is definitely worth a watch. It it

[112:23] it's a life lesson thing and you can I

[112:26] think when you watch the film and you

[112:28] look at it from a leadership perspective

[112:30] what happens is you realize that I have

[112:33] worked for some people like that and

[112:35] then I have worked for people who were

[112:36] horrible leaders right and and so um I

[112:40] it is it is a great film even though

[112:43] it's 1949 it holds up uh the bombing

[112:46] missions are really really good and and

[112:48] again uh there's a lot of great scenes

[112:51] with tail gunners in this thing and uh

[112:53] it's definitely worth a view. [snorts]

[112:55] >> So when you said you when you were

[112:57] teaching classes

[112:58] >> and you would show scenes from

[113:01] >> Yeah.

[113:01] >> 12:00 high,

[113:02] >> right?

[113:03] >> What are Give me give me one or two

[113:05] things that was like the that you

[113:07] remember that's a lesson from

[113:10] this the Gregory Pre character.

[113:12] >> It's just I I think what what came

[113:14] through loud and clear is you can't let

[113:18] people in these roles do whatever they

[113:20] want to do, right? So, you'll see that a

[113:23] lot in workplaces where people go,

[113:24] "Well, I do it this way." Well, no. This

[113:27] is the way we do it because this is how

[113:29] I want you to do it and we're going to

[113:31] do it this way from now on. And when you

[113:33] come on and and hit them with this and

[113:36] say, "You have the freedom to do other

[113:38] things with other but as far as this one

[113:41] thing, I want you to do it this way."

[113:43] And and the thing is that to me brings

[113:46] people more in line. And that's what's

[113:48] super about the military because when

[113:50] they give you an order like this and

[113:53] you're working in an environment like

[113:55] that, you uh you follow the rules, you

[113:58] know, and and I think that was the

[114:00] overwhelming thing for me is is just

[114:02] that there are certain ways that we do

[114:04] things and you're going to do that way.

[114:07] >> The um so

[114:09] there's a lot of quote leadership

[114:11] lessons articles about this on the

[114:14] interwebs. Oh, the military still uses

[114:17] it.

[114:18] >> So, it says, "Prioritize the long-term

[114:20] goal and survival of the group over

[114:22] short-term popularity or individual

[114:24] comfort."

[114:25] >> Yeah. It's not about the individual.

[114:26] It's about the group. You know,

[114:28] >> uh when the team is failing due to

[114:29] laxity or excuses, the leader must reset

[114:32] the baseline performance, discipline,

[114:35] and demand personal responsibility.

[114:37] >> Yeah. And when you first do it, Chris,

[114:39] you're not g This is not going to be a

[114:40] popularity contest. They hated this guy

[114:43] when he came in because the previous

[114:45] leader um basically let him do whatever

[114:48] they wanted to, but this guy came in and

[114:50] said, "You're going to do it this way."

[114:52] >> So, I was looking at one of them, which

[114:53] is addressing underperformance

[114:55] transparently.

[114:56] >> Right now, if you did what Gregory Peek

[114:59] did now, even in the military, you'd

[115:01] probably be in trouble, right?

[115:02] >> Yeah, you probably would be.

[115:03] >> So, he isolates the chronic slackers

[115:06] into the group called the leper colony.

[115:09] >> Yeah. to confront them directly,

[115:11] challenge their pride, and motivate them

[115:13] to turn the performance around.

[115:14] >> It's one of one of those almost closed

[115:17] door things where I used to call them

[115:19] closed- dooror meetings when you have a

[115:20] person who's underperforming and you

[115:22] just say basically, uh, we have a

[115:24] situation here and you're not performing

[115:27] to the standard that we need. And if you

[115:29] don't want to do that, um, you won't you

[115:31] won't survive here. And you're not

[115:33] supposed to do those things. I

[115:34] understand that. Um, but in reality, you

[115:37] do them. Another one is talking about

[115:39] hidden cost of command. Extreme

[115:42] leadership places massive psychological

[115:44] burden on the commander.

[115:45] >> Oh, there's no question about it.

[115:47] >> And then uh must recognize limits

[115:49] avoiding destructive isolation but also

[115:51] [snorts] building support. Yeah. Strong

[115:53] support networks.

[115:54] >> Yeah. Gregory Peek does a magnificent

[115:57] job in this movie. I mean, he I I've

[115:59] always liked him, but he is so good in

[116:01] this. It's incredible. What's your best

[116:03] turnaround hotel or project you ever had

[116:05] to do where you almost were the Gregory

[116:07] Peek of hospitality?

[116:10] I

[116:10] >> actually the the the most

[116:14] because there was stress involved but it

[116:15] was also fun at the same time. When I

[116:17] took over uh when I took over uh a

[116:20] casino in St. Lewis, basically everybody

[116:24] was focused on themselves.

[116:26] And what we were able to do in a

[116:29] six-month period of time is to turn and

[116:32] and I we're building a hotel at the same

[116:34] time, but what we were able to do is

[116:36] turn that around and be more guest

[116:38] focused. So, in other words, on a

[116:41] blackjack game, uh on an empty game,

[116:44] you'd see you'd see uh dealers like

[116:46] this. Okay, how inviting is that?

[116:49] >> Right? instead what we had because I

[116:52] could go down the lane and watch people

[116:54] uh because of the way that we trained

[116:56] them. It was just like they'd start

[116:58] conversations with people as they were

[117:00] walking by. Hey, would you like to play

[117:01] blackjack? You know, I'm a little lonely

[117:03] over here or whatever and just have a

[117:05] conversation with people. And we did

[117:07] that in every facet of we did it in the

[117:09] hotel. We did it in the casino. But

[117:11] casinos for the longest time and the

[117:12] reason I think I got hired was um

[117:15] casinos for the longest time was just us

[117:17] against them mentality. They don't need

[117:19] that because the fact of the matter is

[117:21] casinos have the math working for them.

[117:23] Okay? The percentages are on their side.

[117:25] They don't need to do that. So, the the

[117:28] bottom line is, you know, be more uh

[117:31] hospitalitydriven and and it worked. It

[117:33] was fantastic. I I really really enjoy

[117:35] that gig. I'm [snorts] still always

[117:37] fascinated right now in 2026, right?

[117:40] Where it seems like the

[117:42] >> I guess I'm starting to sound like the

[117:44] grumpy old guy, right? Yeah. that the

[117:46] young kids don't get hospitality

[117:48] like they used to, but maybe they I feel

[117:50] like there's there's a gap there

[117:52] somewhere. I feel like some of the

[117:53] younger kids are pretty good.

[117:54] >> But you know what I think it is? I think

[117:56] I I think if you have parents that are

[117:58] communic communicative with their kids

[118:02] and and encourage that as opposed to

[118:05] letting them just be on their phones all

[118:07] the time. I think that that that leads

[118:10] itself to being to be able to be

[118:13] hospitable. And and the thing is that's

[118:15] what's lacking now because I I can't

[118:17] tell you how many kids I interviewed,

[118:19] college kids, [laughter] interviewed for

[118:21] jobs at the Marriott and and it's just

[118:22] like they couldn't even look at me. I

[118:24] mean, they're looking at the floor the

[118:26] whole time and it's like, what is going

[118:27] on here?

[118:28] >> Look at the floor and they say, you

[118:29] know, I'm a people person, Mr. Van

[118:30] Beern.

[118:30] >> Yeah. [laughter]

[118:32] >> Um Grant Grant and I have talked about

[118:34] this a little bit too, right? Where um

[118:36] >> in this world of technology and autom

[118:39] automization, I start sound like George

[118:41] Bush. Um [laughter]

[118:44] uh automation. Yeah.

[118:45] >> Um

[118:46] >> is there and the is the opportunity

[118:49] >> Mhm.

[118:50] >> like your niche for your restaurant or

[118:52] your hotel or whatever that you actually

[118:54] still consistently do good in-person

[118:58] guest service. Is that I mean like

[119:01] In-N-Out might be the I feel like part

[119:03] of that, right? So McDonald's has gone

[119:05] to kiosks.

[119:07] >> Yeah. And I think that's a mistake um

[119:10] where you don't really give them much of

[119:12] an option to do the counter, you know,

[119:14] and and I see it all the time because I

[119:16] go in for a coffee once a week in

[119:18] McDonald's because their coffee is

[119:19] actually it used to be terrible. It's

[119:21] good now. But the thing is I'll go in

[119:23] there and I'll sit and I'll just watch

[119:24] and I'll see older people especially go

[119:27] up to the kiosk and they don't know how

[119:28] to do it and they they're frustrated and

[119:30] they want and and that's creating a

[119:32] really bad negative and it's just like

[119:33] just have that person there if if you

[119:36] know the guy who ignores the kiosk and I

[119:38] just stand at the counter until someone

[119:40] deals with me.

[119:41] >> How long do you wait?

[119:42] >> It matters, but it's still worth it.

[119:43] >> Yeah, but how long do you wait?

[119:44] >> It could be for a few minutes at

[119:46] >> I know it's pretty bad.

[119:47] >> But I'm I'm I'm not in that big of a

[119:48] rush. Yeah. Right. And then when you

[119:50] look at when they've done testing of

[119:52] what's on the kiosk screen at McDonald's

[119:55] >> in relation to foreign

[119:57] >> and worse, right?

[119:58] >> Uh yeah. Hello.

[120:00] >> There's something that rhymes with ecoal

[120:01] adder on [laughter] the touchcreen.

[120:05] >> That's true.

[120:05] >> Right.

[120:06] >> Yeah. And so I I always got So uh my

[120:09] daughter and I were going through the

[120:10] four corners to go to Colorado to visit

[120:12] a buddy. Yeah.

[120:13] >> Mickey De's in Cayenta up in the Navajo

[120:15] reservation.

[120:16] >> Okay.

[120:16] >> And they got three kiosks.

[120:19] >> Yeah.

[120:19] >> And there's a line for the kiosks.

[120:21] >> Yeah.

[120:22] >> Right. And I just walk right up to the

[120:24] door to the counter. 2 minutes later I'm

[120:26] like

[120:28] And there were still people waiting

[120:30] online because they didn't want to

[120:31] >> I know

[120:31] >> have the the thing of talking to

[120:33] somebody. It was really

[120:34] >> But see, that's the thing though, too.

[120:36] We're we're creating these people that

[120:37] don't know how to interact with one

[120:38] another and it and it's just really kind

[120:40] of sad. It really and truly is.

[120:42] >> So, uh, Brother Joe was um I don't know,

[120:46] cancelelling or

[120:47] >> switching his XM radio from one vehicle

[120:49] to the other.

[120:50] >> So, he calls me up and he goes, "I just

[120:53] had a wonderful experience with XM

[120:55] radio." And I go,

[120:56] >> "What? Get out of here.

[120:57] >> How did that happen? They got rid of

[120:59] their Bombay facility. AI person only.

[121:05] >> Really?

[121:06] >> Hello. Blah blah blah. I'd like to get

[121:08] Yes. What vehicle? Here's the number.

[121:10] Blah blah blah. He said it was like

[121:12] better than half the Americans on the

[121:14] way.

[121:14] >> They got it right. Good for them.

[121:16] >> That's wild. Uh Umpire John, we used to

[121:18] host a weekend battle uh event for the

[121:20] Battle of Britain Fighter Association

[121:22] when the few were quote in their 70s. Um

[121:26] let's see. Uh Jay Allen uh many ball

[121:31] turret gunners didn't wear parachute

[121:33] disc gets better, right? The ball didn't

[121:35] wear parachutes because they couldn't

[121:36] fit in the spot with the parach.

[121:38] >> Well, they also couldn't get out.

[121:39] >> Well, that's [laughter]

[121:40] I mean, you know, putting a parachute on

[121:42] a guy in a in a locked cage.

[121:44] >> Uh he or she is saying that Alan McGee

[121:46] was a ball gunner who fell over 20,000

[121:49] feet without a shoot and somehow

[121:51] survived.

[121:52] >> Wow. That's amazing.

[121:55] >> That's amazing. Amazing.

[121:56] >> Yeah. So, all right. Great job as

[122:00] always.

[122:00] >> Thank you. Enjoyed it.

[122:01] >> Uh, we got I I sent it to Shay. We'll

[122:04] watch it another day. The Jimmy Stewart

[122:05] films coming out the first week of of

[122:09] November.

[122:09] >> He was a true American hero and just a

[122:12] grounded guy, right? I I I don't think

[122:15] he put himself up on a pedestal like so

[122:18] many people do. Like, I'm so much better

[122:20] than everybody else. It's just like

[122:22] because I shoot movies. It's just like

[122:23] he was a wonderful man. You know what

[122:25] movie I finally watched is uh Complete

[122:27] Unknown about Bob Dylan. I finally

[122:29] watched it.

[122:30] >> Did you?

[122:30] >> Okay.

[122:31] >> Did you like it?

[122:33] >> It's okay. Okay. I think they captured

[122:35] the whole thing.

[122:37] >> I'm not a Dylan guy, but I think they

[122:39] did a great job capturing what who he

[122:41] was. And he's not a real I would say

[122:44] he's not a very likable guy. I by any

[122:47] stretch of the imagination, but I think

[122:49] they captured it pretty well. I really

[122:51] do. I I Katherine read the other day and

[122:54] she told me about it. She said, "Uh,

[122:56] McCartney wanted to do a duet with Bob

[123:00] Dylan,

[123:00] >> right?"

[123:01] >> And he said, "It probably never will

[123:03] happen, but I'm pretty intimidated by

[123:05] the guy, too. He was such a talent as

[123:07] far as a songwriter goes." I I was, you

[123:10] know, I think his voice is a little

[123:11] sketchy and everything, but but as far

[123:13] as a a talent as far as songwriting,

[123:16] wow. Just

[123:17] >> So, is he one of the top five American

[123:19] songwriters of all time? Could be.

[123:20] Absolutely. I'm going to go absolutely

[123:22] right.

[123:23] >> But this idea that so some of his songs

[123:25] worked okay in the old days.

[123:27] >> Yeah.

[123:29] >> Well, and as he got older, that twangy

[123:32] stuff got even more intense. And it's

[123:34] just like when you look at his really

[123:36] early stuff, there wasn't a lot of that

[123:37] in there.

[123:38] >> But it was to me it was the idea that I

[123:40] didn't I could never get past the voice.

[123:43] >> You know what? You know what song really

[123:45] bothered me when they did that? We are

[123:46] the world, you know. And when he would

[123:48] Oh, [laughter]

[123:54] >> yeah. Exactly. What?

[123:57] >> I need somebody to run the lines below

[123:58] the what he's singing because I I don't

[124:00] know what he's saying.

[124:00] >> Every time I sing uh We Are the World,

[124:03] I'm thinking of Billy Crystal doing

[124:05] Sammy Davis Jr. singing [laughter]

[124:07] >> We Are the World.

[124:07] >> We are the world. Then at the end where

[124:09] he goes, "We can make a brighter day."

[124:11] And then he goes, "Mack the night." Oh,

[124:15] I thought you were going to do Candyman.

[124:16] But anyway,

[124:17] >> on that note, David Samarano is coming

[124:19] up. He's got uh K9 units. There better

[124:22] be a dog here. Edgar Sodto running for

[124:25] LD17.

[124:26] My plan is to have Edgar on sometime

[124:28] next week. Him and I just have to figure

[124:30] out the date. And then uh Bob Elliot

[124:32] show after that. So,

[124:33] >> excellent.

[124:34] >> Have an amazing weekend. Keep your hat

[124:36] attached to your head. It's going to be

[124:37] windy out there.

[124:38] >> It's going to be very windy down the

[124:40] hatches.

[124:40] >> Can't wait to see you guys tomorrow.

[124:41] Morirana and we'll be on live everywhere

[124:44] you can watch me now. This show will be

[124:45] back on tomorrow between 9 and 11 live

[124:48] from the pumpkin patch. So, please join

[124:50] us and pump it us pump it pumpkin it up

[124:53] with me and Lionus.