Face the Nation (CBS) - 2009-03-01
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[0:00] Today on Face the Nation, an exclusive
[0:02] interview with Rahm Emanuel, the White
[0:05] House Chief of Staff. Last week,
[0:07] President Barack Obama submitted a $3.6
[0:10] trillion budget, marking the biggest
[0:13] shift of resources since the Reagan
[0:15] days. An increase Republicans say will
[0:18] expand the size of government by 1/3 in
[0:22] 1 year. But can the President get it
[0:24] through Congress? Where will he
[0:26] compromise? And given the disastrous
[0:29] economy, is what he's proposing too
[0:31] expensive and based on overly optimistic
[0:35] economic forecast? We'll ask the White
[0:38] House Chief of Staff, Rahm Emanuel, who
[0:41] was instrumental in getting the huge
[0:43] stimulus bill through Congress. I'll
[0:45] have a final word on a "Who da thunk
[0:48] it?" week. But first, Rahm Emanuel on
[0:51] Face the Nation.
[0:55] >> [music]
[1:00] >> Face the Nation with CBS News Chief
[1:03] Washington Correspondent, Bob Schieffer.
[1:06] And now from CBS News in Washington, Bob
[1:09] Schieffer.
[1:10] >> And good morning again. Rahm Emanuel is
[1:13] with us in the studio this morning. Good
[1:14] morning, Mr. Emanuel. It was a big week
[1:17] last week. It's going to be another big
[1:18] one this week. When the President told
[1:21] the joint session of Congress on
[1:22] Tuesday, there was nothing more
[1:24] important than bringing the deficit
[1:26] down. House Democrats led by Speaker
[1:28] Pelosi jumped to their feet with
[1:31] applause. Yet on Wednesday, those same
[1:33] Democrats passed a spending bill to keep
[1:36] the government running for the rest of
[1:37] this fiscal year that contained 9,000,
[1:40] count them, 9,000 earmarks costing
[1:44] nearly $8 billion.
[1:46] The Senate's going to act on that bill
[1:47] this week. We'll send it to the
[1:49] President for his signature. It looks
[1:51] like most of those earmarks are going to
[1:52] stay in. Is the President going to sign
[1:55] this bill?
[1:56] >> Well, as you noted, that's last year's
[1:58] business.
[1:59] Second is when President Obama came to
[2:02] office, two major bills were passed
[2:04] without earmarks.
[2:05] The major recovery economic recovery
[2:07] act, earmark free. The children's health
[2:09] care bill, earmark free.
[2:11] He has said clearly his policies about
[2:13] earmarks, which is got to be more
[2:15] accountability, more transparency, and a
[2:18] reduction. This bill has some of those,
[2:21] but he has enunciated his view and given
[2:24] indication when he was a senator, he
[2:26] like I when I was a member of Congress
[2:28] put his own individual request on his on
[2:30] his own webpage. That policy's now been
[2:33] adopted because the most important thing
[2:35] is to be transparent and accountable for
[2:37] what you ask. Because what the American
[2:39] people want to know is do these
[2:41] individual congressional earmarks meet a
[2:44] worthy public objective or they just
[2:46] individual desire of a member of
[2:47] Congress? And that's why transparency
[2:50] and accountability are so important.
[2:52] >> Well, I understand that, but why didn't
[2:53] he just tell the Senate, "Look, take
[2:55] these things out of here. I told people
[2:56] we were not going to have these
[2:57] earmarks. Then send it back to me."
[2:59] >> What he has always said is and what he's
[3:02] clear is again, the economic recovery
[3:04] act, earmark free, a major bill. Second,
[3:07] is this is last year's business. And
[3:09] third, most importantly, we're going to
[3:10] have to make some other changes going
[3:11] forward to reduce and bring more reduce
[3:14] the ultimate number and bring the
[3:16] transparency. And that's the policy that
[3:18] he enunciated in the campaign.
[3:19] >> to me like what you're going to
[3:21] what he's about to do here is say,
[3:23] "Well, I don't like this, but I'm going
[3:24] to go ahead and sign it, but I'm going
[3:26] to warn you don't ever do it again." Is
[3:27] that what's about to happen here?
[3:29] >> In in not so many words, yes.
[3:31] >> All right. Well, let's talk about this
[3:33] budget because it was a whopper that he
[3:36] outlined this week. Republicans say it's
[3:38] going to increase the size of government
[3:40] by 1/3
[3:42] just next year alone. It produces a
[3:44] deficit of 1.75
[3:47] trillion dollars. That's the largest
[3:49] since World War two, larger than the
[3:51] last five combined. On our webcast
[3:54] Washington Unplugged, I asked former
[3:56] Republican Speaker Newt Gingrich on
[3:58] Friday about it. Here's what he said
[4:00] about it.
[4:01] >> I think that what President Obama has
[4:03] done is
[4:05] outlined the boldest effort to remake
[4:07] America since Lyndon Johnson's Great
[4:09] Society in 1965. I think he he he has
[4:13] courageously laid down a challenge to
[4:16] the whole country. He said, "I want us
[4:18] to become a more left-wing country with
[4:19] a bigger government with higher taxes.
[4:22] Now, do you want to go that way or not?
[4:23] And I think the challenge will be for
[4:25] those of us who don't want to go that
[4:26] way to articulate an alternative vision.
[4:29] But, I think this budget sets the stage
[4:31] for the biggest fight over the future of
[4:33] America since 1965.
[4:35] >> The biggest fight since 1965.
[4:38] >> Yeah. Uh three quick points, Bob. Uh
[4:41] first,
[4:43] this is a 1.7
[4:45] trillion-dollar deficit he inherited.
[4:47] Let's be clear about that. We inherited
[4:49] this deficit and we inherited $4
[4:52] trillion
[4:53] of new debt. That is the facts. Second,
[4:56] this budget is very honest with the
[4:58] American people. It's honest about the
[4:59] cost of the war, which we have never
[5:01] been honest for 7 years. It's honest
[5:03] about the alternative minimum tax, which
[5:04] we've never been honest with the
[5:05] American people about.
[5:07] And that in this deficit reflects what
[5:09] we inherited at this point. Second, I
[5:12] happen to think that
[5:14] Newt is right about one thing.
[5:16] There's a challenge now to the
[5:17] Republicans.
[5:19] Cuz the president's very clear.
[5:20] We can subsidize the HMO industry on 114
[5:23] cents on the dollar rather than pay 100
[5:26] cents on the dollar for health care.
[5:28] Will the Republican budget continue down
[5:29] the path of subsidizing the health care
[5:32] industry and the insurance industry in
[5:34] particular while in fact coverage and
[5:36] premiums lack of coverage for the
[5:38] uninsured continues to go up? That the
[5:41] fact is that premiums go up for the rest
[5:42] of America and also America's life
[5:45] expectancy goes down. Will they continue
[5:47] to subsidize the big oil industry while
[5:49] we send over 700 billion dollars
[5:52] We're saying but while we send over
[5:53] about 700 billion dollars of our wealth
[5:55] overseas.
[5:56] They have a challenge. Will they
[5:58] subsidize the banking industry rather
[6:00] than helping kids go to college? We've
[6:01] laid out a vision. Start to invest in
[6:03] America, invest in your middle class,
[6:05] make the tough choices, be honest with
[6:07] the American people. And the challenge
[6:08] will be as he said there which is will
[6:11] the Republicans meet the challenge of
[6:12] future or keep us on the path
[6:14] that they have set for the last 7 years
[6:16] that got us to this point of reckoning.
[6:18] >> You cannot say though, can you, that
[6:20] this is all something he inherited, this
[6:22] deficit. I mean there are things in this
[6:24] budget that were not in George Bush's
[6:26] budget. Talking about health care
[6:27] >> Right, right,
[6:29] but what we are doing as we did in the
[6:31] economic recovery act and it's
[6:32] fundamental to our goal. First of all,
[6:34] we bring the deficit down.
[6:36] That's different. Second is we and the
[6:38] president the president was very clear
[6:40] in the economic recovery act as he is in
[6:41] this economic program. It is time to
[6:44] invest in our energy independence, which
[6:46] is why in the economic recovery act we
[6:48] double the size of alternative energy.
[6:50] It's time to invest in our our kids
[6:52] ability to go to college, which is why
[6:54] we don't subsidize banks but we
[6:56] subsidize kids ability to go to college.
[6:58] It is time we start ensuring and and
[7:01] bring cost down, the premiums as well as
[7:04] expand coverage. Those are the type of
[7:06] investments that are key for America's
[7:08] economic growth and competitiveness
[7:10] going forward. The health care system is
[7:12] particular example where America's
[7:14] economic competitiveness is strength
[7:16] around the world is sapped because we
[7:17] have a health care system that doesn't
[7:19] allow American workers and businesses
[7:21] compete and it is the key to our
[7:23] long-term
[7:25] putting our fiscal house in order. And
[7:27] the Republicans will have an opportunity
[7:29] not just to criticize, but to propose.
[7:31] And the question is will they continue
[7:33] the path of the 7 years that have got us
[7:35] to the point of basically a culture of
[7:38] rising deficits
[7:40] and more and more consumer spending.
[7:42] This budget deficit This budget and
[7:44] economic program fundamentally changes
[7:46] the culture in this way.
[7:48] It rejects the past
[7:50] and says we're going to be a culture and
[7:52] a society that invests and saves.
[7:55] >> What the Republicans also say it raises
[7:57] taxes on everybody. I think everybody
[8:00] expected that
[8:01] taxes on upper income people were going
[8:03] to go up. Barack Obama said during the
[8:06] campaign that that's what he planned to
[8:07] do, but Newt Gingrich and some of the
[8:10] other Republicans say when people find
[8:12] out that when you're talking about these
[8:15] things you're talking about on the
[8:17] energy front, it's going to be a new tax
[8:19] on everybody that uses electricity, who
[8:22] drives a car, and there going to be tax
[8:24] increases in in myriad other ways.
[8:27] >> Well, first of all,
[8:29] let's be very clear
[8:30] cuz I've seen these scare tactics
[8:32] before. You've seen it too, Bob.
[8:35] 95%
[8:36] of Americans, working Americans, will
[8:38] have a tax cut.
[8:40] As the president said Tuesday night, 95%
[8:42] of Americans will have a tax cut. And
[8:44] starting April 1st, they'll see it,
[8:47] which the Republicans voted against in
[8:49] large measure in the House and in the
[8:51] Senate.
[8:52] Second, nobody will see a tax increase
[8:55] for 2 years.
[8:56] When we get out of this recession,
[8:58] and he ran on, as you noted, the fact
[9:01] that the wealthy 2% will have their
[9:03] marginal rates go back to where they
[9:05] were under Bill Clinton
[9:07] when we produced 22 million jobs,
[9:09] and their deductions will go back to
[9:10] where they were under Ronald Reagan.
[9:13] That we're going really just back to
[9:16] that point, that starting point. So,
[9:18] there will be the scare tactics trying
[9:19] to talk about the fact that everybody's
[9:20] going to see tax increases, and the
[9:22] president could not have been clearer
[9:23] Tuesday night that working middle-class
[9:25] families will get a tax cut. In addition
[9:27] to that,
[9:29] more and more will be get assistance so
[9:31] they can go to college in in a society
[9:33] in a time economically where you earn
[9:35] what you learn, we're going to help more
[9:36] people go to college and have the most
[9:38] educated workforce. We're also
[9:40] fundamentally, the most important thing
[9:41] economically, is getting an energy
[9:43] policy and a healthcare policy that
[9:45] ensures that the economy and the
[9:48] members of our society and our country
[9:50] can get a healthcare system that works
[9:52] for them rather than them working for
[9:53] that healthcare system. And an energy
[9:55] policy that weans us off dependence on
[9:57] foreign oil and toward an independent
[9:59] policy on energy.
[10:01] >> Uh
[10:02] aren't there more tax increases in this
[10:04] in this uh plan than than Barack Obama
[10:07] talked about during the campaign? For
[10:09] example, on on upper-income people
[10:11] talking about reducing uh the deductions
[10:13] they can take on charitable giving.
[10:16] Uh aren't you going to get a lot of
[10:18] opposition from uh places like where
[10:21] Barack Obama used to work, charitable
[10:23] enterprises, when he was a community
[10:25] organizer?
[10:26] >> I there'll be, you know, voices of of
[10:29] criticism, but I want to I want
[10:31] everybody to be reassured by the fact
[10:32] these are the rates that were under
[10:34] deductions that Ronald Reagan had. And
[10:36] the marginal rate is where Bill that
[10:38] Bill Clinton had in the time in the '90s
[10:40] we had. That's what they are. There's
[10:41] not like just something totally
[10:43] radically new. We're going back to those
[10:45] points. And if and making sure but what
[10:48] do we do?
[10:49] We reduce the deficit and we make
[10:51] critical investments that are essential
[10:53] for the economic strength of this
[10:54] country. Uh and what has not happened
[10:57] over the years, when we were subsidizing
[11:00] these powerful interests, is in fact we
[11:02] went farther and slid farther and
[11:04] farther behind while we were piling up
[11:06] record amount of of debt and deficits.
[11:09] And the question is and the challenge is
[11:11] that day of reckoning can not can no
[11:13] longer be put off. And the president's
[11:15] very clear.
[11:16] He ran on this. And one of the big news
[11:19] is here in Washington is not only did he
[11:21] run on it, he then proposed it. And what
[11:23] is always a surprise and I think one of
[11:24] the one of the gas that you hear here in
[11:27] Washington, people expect you to run on
[11:29] one say one thing in the campaign and
[11:30] then govern different. I think what's
[11:32] woken up Washington is he's been
[11:34] consistent from the campaign all the way
[11:35] through to his economic program and he
[11:37] said these are the challenges we have
[11:39] and the day of running away from those
[11:40] challenges and not meeting them while
[11:42] America slid behind economically is no
[11:44] longer feasible or is no longer smart.
[11:47] >> Do you think you're going to get more
[11:48] Republican support than you had for
[11:50] example on passing those stimulus
[11:52] packages? I noticed you said in a
[11:55] article in the New Yorker
[11:58] when somebody asked is bipartisan ship
[12:00] dead? You were quoted as saying the
[12:02] public wants bipartisanship. We just
[12:05] have to try. We don't have to succeed in
[12:07] getting it. What does that mean?
[12:09] >> slightly a little more about that. First
[12:10] of all, we did succeed.
[12:13] Number one in bipartisanship.
[12:14] >> We got three Republicans.
[12:15] >> no, well, let's do the score Let's do
[12:17] the entire scorecard.
[12:19] Uh on on the Ledbetter legislation,
[12:23] number of Republicans in both the House
[12:24] and Senate voted for it.
[12:26] On the Children's Health Care bill,
[12:28] number of Republicans voted for that.
[12:30] You are right on the Economic Recovery
[12:31] Act because of its boldness, we had
[12:33] three, but we had governors throughout
[12:36] the country who supported it. Republican
[12:38] mayors throughout the country supported
[12:39] and Republican voters who supported it.
[12:42] Going forward,
[12:43] the president's been very clear. He
[12:44] called on the National Service bill that
[12:46] Senator Kennedy and Senator Hatch,
[12:48] Republican for Utah,
[12:49] had proposed. He has been clear about
[12:52] wanting a stem cell legislation that a
[12:55] number like Senator Specter, Republican
[12:56] from Pennsylvania, as well as Senator
[12:58] Harkin, a Democrat from Iowa. So, we
[13:00] will continue to reach out as we did in
[13:03] the fiscal summit
[13:04] this early this week as we will in the
[13:06] health care summit on Thursday. But, our
[13:08] goal our goal, Bob, is to continue to
[13:10] reach out and it's our desire that the
[13:12] Republicans would work with us in trying
[13:14] to be constructive rather than adopt the
[13:17] philosophy of somebody like Rush
[13:18] Limbaugh who's praying for failure.
[13:20] >> Rush Limbaugh,
[13:22] we've talked about Newt Gingrich a lot
[13:24] this morning
[13:26] and now you bring up Rush Limbaugh. Who
[13:27] do you think now speaks for the
[13:29] Republican Party?
[13:30] >> You just named him. It was Rush
[13:33] Limbaugh. I mean, he has laid out his
[13:35] vision in my view, and he said it
[13:37] clearly, and I compliment him for that.
[13:39] He's been very up-front, and I
[13:41] compliment for that because he's not
[13:42] hiding.
[13:43] He's asked for President Obama and
[13:44] called for President Obama to fail.
[13:47] That's his view.
[13:48] And that's what he's enunciated. And
[13:50] whenever a Republican criticizes him,
[13:52] they have to run back and apologize to
[13:54] him and say they were misunderstood. He
[13:56] is the voice and the intellectual force
[13:59] and energy behind the Republican Party,
[14:01] and he has been up-front about what he
[14:02] views and hasn't stepped back from that,
[14:05] which is he hopes for failure.
[14:07] He said it, and I compliment him for his
[14:09] honesty, but that's their philosophy of
[14:11] that as enunciated by Rush Limbaugh, and
[14:13] I think that's the wrong philosophy for
[14:15] America because what Americans want us
[14:17] to do and what President Obama's been
[14:18] very clear about is work together,
[14:21] setting our goals. We may take different
[14:23] roads to get to that goal, but be clear
[14:25] on what we have to do to build this
[14:27] country by investing in our people, make
[14:29] changing the healthcare system, having
[14:31] an energy independence policy that
[14:33] clearly weans America off its dependence
[14:35] on foreign oil.
[14:36] >> he's that important that other
[14:37] Republicans are paying that much
[14:38] attention to him?
[14:39] >> Well, he was given the keynote basically
[14:42] at the Conservative Caucus to speak.
[14:45] When a Republican did attack him, he was
[14:47] he clearly had a turn around
[14:50] and come back and basically said that
[14:52] that is he apologized and was wrong. And
[14:53] I do think he's an intellectual force,
[14:55] which is why the Republicans pay such
[14:57] attention to him.
[14:58] >> All right, we're going to take a break
[14:59] here, and we'll come back and talk about
[15:00] this, about drawing down the troops in
[15:02] Iraq, and a whole lot more when we come
[15:04] back.
[15:06] >> [music]
[15:11] [music]
[15:16] >> Back now with the White House Chief of
[15:17] Staff, Rahm Emanuel. Mr. Emanuel, Uh,
[15:20] General Motors is now
[15:22] losing $100 million a day. Uh, they have
[15:26] already spent, we are told, 2/3 of what
[15:29] they have already received from the
[15:31] government, and we're hearing they want
[15:33] some more. They're now asking for
[15:35] another $16 billion. Is the president
[15:38] going to do that? Because the question I
[15:40] have is how long does this go on?
[15:44] >> As you know, the panel of experts we've
[15:46] assembled on the auto industry is
[15:47] working with GM and the others on their
[15:49] plan. President's been very clear though
[15:51] what his priorities are. They have to
[15:53] have a viable business plan going for on
[15:55] a going forward basis, and it's going to
[15:57] require sacrifice from all the parties
[16:00] involved to do that. But here's the
[16:02] other thing I I think that people should
[16:04] see in the both GM as well as the
[16:06] others.
[16:07] They never invested in both alternative
[16:10] energy cars. They got dependent on big
[16:12] gas guzzlers.
[16:13] They didn't do They have a health care
[16:15] cost structure that's outdated, and as
[16:17] an example, we talked earlier, Bob,
[16:19] about the fact that their health care
[16:21] system is affecting their business and
[16:22] their employ and their employers and
[16:24] their employees, rather.
[16:25] And it's an example, in my view, of what
[16:28] the president's saying for this country.
[16:30] We have the day of reckoning of making
[16:32] sure that we were had a policy on energy
[16:34] independence, a policy that ensured that
[16:36] our health care costs were under
[16:37] control, our ability to make sure that
[16:38] we had coverage was expanded to those
[16:40] who are uninsured as one way to also
[16:42] bring costs under control. That is the
[16:44] challenge we face as a country.
[16:46] To the GM specific,
[16:48] president wants to see a business model
[16:50] that's on a going forward basis,
[16:52] is cognizant of the market, and they
[16:54] that all the parties made the sacrifices
[16:56] necessary for that independence. The
[16:58] panel experts are now meeting to go over
[17:00] those plans and help them develop
[17:01] something or look at review what they're
[17:04] doing before any other decisions made.
[17:05] >> So, you're saying unless they change
[17:07] their ways uh drastically, unless they
[17:09] come up with a new model, no more money.
[17:11] >> They kicked down Basically, over the
[17:13] last 20 to 30 years, they had a strategy
[17:15] that has gotten them to I think a very
[17:17] unfortunate position both on health care
[17:19] costs, new types of cars,
[17:21] weaning themselves off of basically gas
[17:24] guzzlers to energy efficient cars, and
[17:26] they're making those changes now when
[17:27] everybody said for the last 20 years,
[17:29] but it's a wake up call
[17:31] which is clear of what the president
[17:32] said on Tuesday night. It's a wake up
[17:34] call to America. Do we want to have an
[17:36] energy policy that's different?
[17:37] >> have to do something different.
[17:38] >> They have to
[17:39] The plan weighs it. The plan is in front
[17:40] of the
[17:41] the panel of experts, which is where it
[17:43] should be. I'm basically making sure
[17:45] that the restructuring is a is a viable
[17:47] restructuring plan.
[17:48] >> Let's talk about the president's
[17:50] announcement that he is going to draw
[17:52] down the troops in Iraq, that he's going
[17:54] to leave 50,000 there in support roles
[17:57] before he made that talk. Nancy Pelosi,
[18:00] the Democratic leader in the house, said
[18:03] that it's 50,000 sounded like too much.
[18:05] Let's listen to just what she said. This
[18:07] was just before he spoke.
[18:10] >> I don't know what the justification is
[18:11] for 50,000 a presence of 50,000 troops
[18:14] in Iraq. I do think that there's a need
[18:17] for some,
[18:18] and I don't know that all of them have
[18:20] to be in country.
[18:21] >> So, there you have it, and that seems to
[18:23] be most of the criticism now coming from
[18:25] Democrats, not from Republicans. John
[18:28] McCain likes the way the president's
[18:30] doing this. The Republicans, I mean, the
[18:31] Democrats seem to be saying though we
[18:33] need to get more troops out of there
[18:34] quicker.
[18:35] >> Well, first of all,
[18:37] as you noted earlier in the question,
[18:39] President ran on this policy. Told
[18:42] American people what he wanted to see.
[18:44] Said on day one I'm going to have a
[18:45] meeting with my national security staff
[18:46] to begin the process to evaluate how we
[18:48] can come out in 16 months.
[18:51] That's what he did on day one. And about
[18:53] a month later, he, as you saw on Friday,
[18:55] he enunciated that policy because they
[18:57] came back, the entire apparatus of the
[18:59] national security
[19:01] apparatus for the president, on how to
[19:03] responsibly draw down our troops.
[19:06] By August of 2010, the combat mission
[19:09] will be over.
[19:10] We will have a residual force of
[19:12] somewhere between 35, and 50,000 troops.
[19:16] Mainly dealing with training, protecting
[19:18] our diplomatic and civilians in Iraq,
[19:21] and some counterinsurgency.
[19:23] The president has been very clear that
[19:26] going on a going forward basis as we
[19:27] draw down that the Iraqis must
[19:30] politically and on a security basis take
[19:33] ownership of their country. So, there
[19:35] will be an intensified effort on the
[19:37] diplomatic uh and political side, which
[19:40] is why we sent Ambassador Hill there uh
[19:43] to work with our general and our entire
[19:45] >> Do you think the Democrats are going to
[19:46] go in the end going to go along with it?
[19:48] >> well, first of all, there's uh
[19:50] the speaker I I
[19:51] spoke to her concern about 50,000. There
[19:53] have been other uh Democrats also
[19:55] including who have been uh supportive
[19:58] and understand where we are. The speaker
[20:00] has a right to question uh that size.
[20:02] The president said, "This is what I
[20:04] think is a responsible both plan for
[20:06] withdrawal and a responsible residual
[20:08] force." And has worked it through both
[20:10] with the commanders, the diplomatic
[20:12] core, and the political uh apparatus to
[20:14] make sure we had a comprehensive view.
[20:16] >> Let me go back to the budget for just
[20:18] one kind of clean-up question. You set a
[20:20] kind of a deadline for sometime in April
[20:22] to get most of this done. Am I correct
[20:24] in that?
[20:25] >> Congress is working on that. They said
[20:27] >> realistic?
[20:28] >> Well,
[20:28] I I Yes, in this sense, Bob. I mean, you
[20:31] you There's a lot to compliment what
[20:32] this Congress has just pulled off. They
[20:34] passed a Ledbetter legislation on pay
[20:36] equity uh for women. They passed a
[20:39] children's health care bill that your
[20:41] that 11 million children of working
[20:42] parents are getting now finally get
[20:44] health care who because of no fault of
[20:45] their own did not have health care,
[20:47] passed in a bipartisan way. And then in
[20:49] 2 weeks later, they passed an impressive
[20:51] economic recovery act that begins to
[20:53] invest in our in our country once again.
[20:55] And they did that in a month. The
[20:57] president laid out uh his budget, and
[20:59] this Congress is already beginning the
[21:01] work, and you'll see uh the president's
[21:04] OMB director Peter Orszag up this week
[21:05] testifying, and the activity will go
[21:08] forward in both the House and the
[21:09] Senate, and we are confident because
[21:11] this Congress is here understanding the
[21:13] extraordinary time we find ourselves in
[21:15] to meet that challenge and meet the
[21:17] president's objective of sending through
[21:19] an economic program.
[21:20] >> ask you quickly, we hear these horror
[21:22] stories coming out of Mexico. Nearly
[21:23] 7,000 people killed in these wars
[21:27] between these drug cartels. They forced
[21:29] a police chief of Juarez, just across
[21:31] the street from El Paso, across the
[21:33] river, out by threatening threatening to
[21:35] kill a police officer a day until he
[21:37] left, and he left after they killed four
[21:39] or five people. It just seems worse and
[21:41] worse. Does the administration consider
[21:44] Mexico a national security problem for
[21:46] the United States?
[21:47] >> Well, as you know, the first foreign
[21:49] leader
[21:50] that the president met with was the
[21:52] president of Mexico. Attended that
[21:54] meeting. And both committed to working
[21:57] to stabilize the border, which is
[21:59] exactly what Janet Napolitano, the head
[22:02] of Homeland Security, said this week in
[22:03] congressional testimony.
[22:05] They want to clearly stop the guns from
[22:08] the United States going south. We want
[22:10] to stop the drugs coming north, and we
[22:12] have a mutual interest in working to
[22:14] secure that border, and that's why the
[22:16] president of the United States had a
[22:17] meeting with President Calderon in his
[22:19] first meeting with a foreign leader, cuz
[22:20] that border is important to us, and
[22:22] Mexico is a key ally of ours.
[22:24] >> All right, we have to stop there. Thank
[22:26] you very much, Rahm Emanuel, White House
[22:28] Chief of Staff, and
[22:29] >> I actually enjoyed it.
[22:30] >> [laughter]
[22:31] >> It's Sunday.
[22:31] >> We'll be back with a final thought in
[22:33] just a minute.
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[22:54] Finally today, we have just come through
[22:56] one of those who'd have thought it
[22:57] weeks, as in who'd have thought that way
[23:00] back when Barack Obama began his
[23:02] campaign for president that his first
[23:04] State of the Union speech would hardly
[23:06] mention Iraq. Who would have thought
[23:08] back then that the state of the nation's
[23:10] economy would be so bad the president
[23:12] wouldn't even call it a State of the
[23:14] Union speech just so he wouldn't have to
[23:16] finish the sentence that begins the
[23:19] State of the Union is. Who would have
[23:21] thought the Republican Party would be
[23:23] laying some of the blame for the bad
[23:25] economy off on their recently departed
[23:27] leader? Or I guess that's what GOP
[23:30] stalwart Newt Gingrich was doing when he
[23:32] talked to me and others this week about
[23:34] what he labeled the failed Bush-Obama
[23:37] big spending strategy. Who would have
[23:39] thought that when President Obama, who
[23:41] campaigned to bring the troops home from
[23:44] Iraq, announced his withdrawal plan that
[23:46] it would be the Republicans who liked it
[23:48] and the Democrats who didn't. And who
[23:50] for that matter would have thought that
[23:52] when the withdrawal was announced that
[23:55] it would not be the lead story on the
[23:57] evening news. Not only was it not the
[23:59] lead, two or three stories about the bad
[24:02] economy came ahead of it. Nor did it get
[24:05] above the fold in many newspapers.
[24:08] Yes, Barack Obama campaigned on change,
[24:10] but I doubt he expected a lot of that.
[24:13] Who would have thought it?
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