CBS / WFOR - Presidential Debate (post-debate) - 2004-09-30 - 5 of 5
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[0:00] The world is safer without Saddam
[0:01] Hussein.
[0:02] >> The president just talked about Iraq as
[0:05] a center of the war on terror. Iraq was
[0:09] not even close to the center of the war
[0:12] on terror before the president invaded.
[0:15] Tonight, sparks fly as the University of
[0:17] Miami makes history hosting the
[0:19] presidential debate.
[0:22] And you're looking live now at the M
[0:24] Convocation Center. President Bush and
[0:25] Senator John Kerry just wrapping up
[0:27] their first of three scheduled debates.
[0:29] Just a short time ago, we saw one of the
[0:31] motorcades just pass by. Good evening.
[0:33] I'm Rob Henraan
[0:34] >> and I'm Maggie Rodriguez. On this
[0:36] historic night, we are live at the
[0:37] University of Miami and we have a team
[0:40] of reporters covering every angle for
[0:42] you from the debate to the parties
[0:44] afterwards to the undecided voters who
[0:47] will decide this election. We kick
[0:48] things off tonight with CBS4's Gary
[0:50] Nelson. He is outside the convocation
[0:52] center. Gary, take it away.
[0:55] >> Well, this debate tonight was on the
[0:57] topic of foreign policy, but it had
[1:00] almost everything to do with Iraq. The
[1:03] focus almost entirely tonight on the war
[1:06] in Iraq. This debate ending just a short
[1:08] while ago. We can show you now live
[1:11] pictures, I'm being told, of President
[1:13] Bush um at a rally apparently for Mel
[1:17] Martinez here in South Florida, a
[1:20] Republican who the Republican party is
[1:22] looking to send to the United States
[1:24] Senate. In this debate tonight, the war
[1:26] on Iraq front and center. John Kerry
[1:29] accusing President Bush of having rushed
[1:31] headlong into an ill-advised war,
[1:34] leaving our allies behind and over our
[1:36] allies objections. The president saying
[1:39] John Kerry is sending a message of
[1:41] weakness and the wrong message to our
[1:44] men and women in Iraq.
[1:48] Good evening from the University of
[1:49] Miami Convocation Center in Coral
[1:52] Gables, Florida. The world watched our
[1:54] town tonight. George Bush and John Kerry
[1:57] shook hands at center stage and came out
[1:59] swinging. This foreign policy debate
[2:01] focusing almost entirely on one country,
[2:04] the war in Iraq. Kerry saying Bush has
[2:06] isolated America with an ill-advised go
[2:09] it alone war.
[2:10] >> I'll never give a veto to any country
[2:12] over our security. But I also know how
[2:15] to lead those alliances. This president
[2:17] has left them in shatters across the
[2:19] globe and we're now 90% of the
[2:22] casualties in Iraq. In Iraq, we saw a
[2:24] threat and we realize that after
[2:26] September the 11th, we must take threats
[2:28] seriously before they fully materialize.
[2:31] Saddam Hussein now sits in a prison
[2:33] cell. America and the world are safer
[2:36] for it.
[2:37] >> Kerry said Bush rushed to war relying on
[2:39] bad information. Bush countered Carrie
[2:41] was on board and has flip-flopped. He
[2:44] also promised America that he would go
[2:46] to war as a last resort. Those words
[2:49] mean something to me as somebody who's
[2:51] been in combat. Last resort. You got to
[2:54] be able to look in the eyes of families
[2:55] and say to those parents, I tried to do
[2:58] everything in my power to prevent the
[3:01] loss of your son and daughter. My
[3:02] opponent looked at the same intelligence
[3:04] I looked at
[3:06] and uh declared in 2002 that Saddam
[3:09] Hussein was a grave threat.
[3:12] He also said in December of 2003 that
[3:14] anyone who doubts that the world is
[3:16] safer without Saddam Hussein does not
[3:18] have the judgment to be president.
[3:22] I agree with him.
[3:24] >> The president said what he sees as K's
[3:26] shifting positions on Iraq does a
[3:28] disservice to US interests and US
[3:30] troops. I don't see how you can lead
[3:34] this country uh to succeed in Iraq if
[3:37] you say wrong war, wrong time, wrong
[3:39] place. What message does that send our
[3:40] troops?
[3:41] >> Carrie accused Bush of having blinders
[3:43] on to the deteriorating situation in
[3:45] Iraq.
[3:46] >> This president just I don't know if he
[3:48] sees what's really happening there, but
[3:51] it's getting worse by the day. More
[3:53] soldiers killed in June than before.
[3:55] >> And it's hard work.
[3:58] I understand how hard it is. I get the
[3:59] casualty reports every day. I see on the
[4:02] TV screens how hard it is, but it's
[4:05] necessary work.
[4:06] >> Kerry said he has a credible plan to win
[4:09] back our allies and resolve the war in
[4:11] Iraq. Bush said he would not succumb to
[4:14] weakness, predicting victory in Iraq.
[4:17] And in November,
[4:21] President Bush left this debate hall
[4:23] tonight, went directly to a rally of his
[4:26] supporters in Coconut Grove. Let's
[4:28] listen to a bit of what he's having to
[4:30] say there live now.
[4:34] >> Can't hear you.
[4:48] >> Well, there the president is at that
[4:50] rally of supporters. Mel Martinez, the
[4:52] Republican candidate for the United
[4:54] States Senate, playing quite the role
[4:57] there as the president attempts to
[4:59] extend some coattail help to Martinez in
[5:02] that US Senate race against the Democrat
[5:05] Betty Caster, former education
[5:07] commissioner of Florida. Now, in this
[5:10] debate tonight, both the president and
[5:12] Senator John Kerry were civil. It was a
[5:15] spirited debate, but there was no
[5:17] ugliness at any turn along the way. Both
[5:20] candidates abiding by the rules, not
[5:22] directly addressing or questioning each
[5:25] other. The president calling the senator
[5:28] my opponent. The senator often referring
[5:31] to the president as he made reference to
[5:33] President Bush. They said coming in,
[5:36] many of the pundits, the observers,
[5:38] those who handicap such things, that if
[5:41] George Bush could manage not to quote
[5:44] screw up was the words used by one
[5:47] analyst tonight, that he would come away
[5:50] the de facto winner being the incumbent
[5:52] and all. It would appear there was no
[5:54] obvious gaff. John Kerry obviously
[5:58] hammered home some meaningful points. We
[6:01] will see how it all plays out in these
[6:03] next few weeks coming up to election
[6:05] day. For now, we're live at the
[6:07] University of Miami in Coral Gables.
[6:09] Gary Nelson, CBS4 News Tonight. As you
[6:12] saw there, the candidates were whisked
[6:14] away very quickly after the debate, but
[6:15] behind us, you can see the audience
[6:17] members still filing out. They are among
[6:19] a select few who got to be inside the
[6:22] convocation center and really get a
[6:23] sense for what it was like. There are
[6:25] many small nuances that you'll see from
[6:27] these candidates when you're in the
[6:28] exact same room with them rather than
[6:30] watching it on television. Our own
[6:31] Elliot Rodriguez got the e ticket inside
[6:34] tonight. He joins us now with more.
[6:36] Elliot, your thoughts?
[6:38] >> Well, that's right, Rob and Maggie. Most
[6:40] of the media was outside the convocation
[6:42] center for this debate, but uh thanks to
[6:44] this ticket, I was able to be inside for
[6:47] uh the 90minute faceoff between
[6:49] President Bush and and John Kerry. And I
[6:51] can tell you uh first of all that this
[6:53] was an event that was meant to be seen
[6:56] on television inside the convocation
[6:59] center. The overwhelming feeling I can
[7:01] tell you right now it was extremely
[7:03] cold. I was told uh the temperature was
[7:05] to be set at 50°. It it felt much
[7:08] colder. People were in there shivering
[7:10] uh throughout this this uh debate and at
[7:14] the end people were standing by the door
[7:16] waiting to get out. That was one of the
[7:18] conditions that that the two sides uh
[7:20] imposed with that was that the
[7:22] temperature would remain cool of course
[7:23] with the uh the television lights. They
[7:25] did not want to uh uh run the risk of
[7:28] anybody sweating as in the uh the
[7:30] Richard Nixon debate against John F.
[7:32] Kennedy in 1960. There were 500 seats on
[7:35] the floor of the convocation center
[7:37] divided between uh the two campaigns.
[7:40] There were also a few I would say about
[7:43] 200 people who sat in some of the stands
[7:45] of the basketball arena. Uh that's where
[7:47] I was. There were uh many University of
[7:49] Miami students there who told me that uh
[7:51] they are now all registered to vote.
[7:53] They are involved in politics and are
[7:56] interested in the in this debate. And
[7:58] that's what uh Donna Shala the president
[8:00] of the University of Miami who works so
[8:02] hard to get this debate here said she
[8:04] was most interested in getting young
[8:06] people uh interested in politics. Now
[8:09] early on the uh audience was warned by
[8:12] the moderator Jim Lair that we were not
[8:15] going to be uh the center of attention
[8:17] here. The lights were turned off. We
[8:19] were admonished. Uh there would be no
[8:22] sort of applauding, no sort of of sounds
[8:24] that were to be made uh once this debate
[8:27] started. And once the two candidates got
[8:29] on there, that's what happened. The
[8:30] lights went down. There was some
[8:31] applause at the beginning and some
[8:33] applause at the end. But uh throughout
[8:35] the 90 minutes, the uh the audience uh
[8:38] listened to this debate uh very evenly
[8:41] divided I would say the uh people who
[8:44] were in the audience between Bush
[8:46] supporters and Kerry supporters, but
[8:48] again this was a an event that was meant
[8:50] to be seen on television. Back to you
[8:53] guys,
[8:53] >> Elliot. On television though, we we
[8:55] mostly saw shots from the waist up. We
[8:58] didn't get to see the full picture a lot
[9:00] of the time. Is there anything that we
[9:02] may have missed as far as body language
[9:04] that you think was important?
[9:06] >> Well, you know, there there was a lot of
[9:08] talk about what the networks could and
[9:10] could not show. Could they show cutaway
[9:12] shots? And the networks did not agree to
[9:14] that. And I'm sure you saw on the the
[9:16] the monitors that we were able to see uh
[9:18] cutaway shots. Uh what you saw on
[9:21] television is is what happened. Uh John
[9:24] Kerry uh was was there. uh the president
[9:28] uh uh next to him uh probably uh the uh
[9:31] most applause in the audience was uh
[9:33] Mrs. Kerry uh was up there and also when
[9:36] she came up to uh first lady uh Laura
[9:39] Bush, there was some warmth there and
[9:41] there was some interaction there between
[9:43] the two families that uh maybe that did
[9:46] not have come across on on camera, but
[9:48] basically this was a program meant to be
[9:51] seen uh by viewers on TV. And what you
[9:53] saw was what went down here at the
[9:57] convocation center. Uh the people who
[9:59] watch the debate.