Nightline (ABC) - 2009-02-25
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[0:05] Tonight on Night Line, terror in the
[0:08] sky. First the miracle on the Hudson,
[0:11] then the tragedy in Buffalo, and now a
[0:14] third plane crashes down in less than 2
[0:16] months. Nine are dead, dozens injured,
[0:19] but many just walk away, surviving
[0:22] impact. So, is it possible to increase
[0:25] your chances of escaping from a plane
[0:27] crash? We have scientific evidence based
[0:29] on years of research. The keys to
[0:32] survival that just might save your life.
[0:35] And the right stuff. Forget email.
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[0:47] >> From the global resources of ABC News
[0:50] with Terry Moran, Martin Gasher, and
[0:52] Cynthia Mcbaden in New York City. This
[0:55] is Night Line, February 25th, 2009.
[1:00] >> Good evening. The pictures have become
[1:03] all too familiar recently. A commercial
[1:05] airliner captured not in the air, but
[1:07] lying in pieces on the ground, wreckage
[1:10] charred by the aftermath of a jet fuel
[1:12] explosion. Or the extraordinary sight of
[1:14] an aircraft landing on a river next to
[1:17] New York. And today, another incident,
[1:19] this time near Amsterdam Airport, where
[1:22] Turkish Airlines flight number 1951
[1:25] crashed into a field. Of the 134
[1:28] passengers on board, the majority
[1:30] survived, but some did not. And for the
[1:33] third time in just over 5 weeks, we're
[1:35] left with the question, why? Nick Watt
[1:39] now reports.
[1:41] At this moment, looking at a very large
[1:43] emergency, it looks like we lost an
[1:45] aircraft.
[1:45] >> At 10:31 this morning, eyewitnesses say
[1:48] flight 1951 from Istanbul suddenly
[1:52] dropped out of the sky.
[1:53] >> We have an emergency in progress.
[1:58] >> The Boeing 737 narrowly missed a highway
[2:02] and hit the ground 2 miles short of the
[2:04] runway at Amsterdam's Chipal Airport.
[2:08] The first 10 seconds it was completely
[2:11] silent, said this survivor. Everybody
[2:13] was so scared it was deathly quiet.
[2:18] >> 134 people, including four Boeing
[2:20] employees from Seattle, were on board.
[2:23] >> All the pieces are hanging down. There's
[2:25] people screaming uh who are stuck asking
[2:28] for help to try to get out.
[2:31] >> We got out on the left wing. We were
[2:33] afraid of fire, said this man. We could
[2:36] smell the jet fuel. 60 ambulances took
[2:40] 84 injured survivors to the hospital.
[2:43] >> Nine people have died. Six people are
[2:46] very seriously uh injured and we don't
[2:49] know they are critical at this moment.
[2:51] >> There are still three crew members uh in
[2:53] the cabin. I'm sorry to say they're
[2:55] dead.
[2:56] >> It took several hours to get their
[2:58] bodies out of the cockpit. Investigators
[3:01] are still trying to determine what went
[3:04] wrong. This is the third major airline
[3:07] crash in a little over a month
[3:11] late on the night of February 12th. All
[3:13] 44 passengers and five crew aboard a
[3:17] turborop from Newark to Buffalo were
[3:19] killed when the plane smashed into a
[3:21] suburban neighborhood. Investigators
[3:23] believe ice build up on the wings and
[3:25] possibly pilot error were to blame. You
[3:29] have a a metal tube.
[3:32] You cram it full of people. You put
[3:35] limited exits in it so it's difficult to
[3:36] get out.
[3:38] You then wrap the whole thing with
[3:41] kerosene fuel and then you hurl it down
[3:44] a runway at um 150 mph.
[3:50] >> January 15th, US Airways flight 1549
[3:54] bound for Charlotte, North Carolina
[3:56] crash landed in the Hudson shortly after
[3:59] takeoff from New York's LaGuardia. A
[4:01] flock of birds had hit both engines.
[4:04] Captain Chzley Sullenberger executed a
[4:07] flawless landing on water. Nose up,
[4:10] wings exactly level, speed perfect. All
[4:14] 150 passengers and five crew survived.
[4:17] Captain Sully was hailed a hero. His
[4:20] heroics dubbed the miracle on the
[4:23] Hudson. But surviving an air crash is
[4:26] not a miracle. In fact, between 1983 and
[4:30] 2000, more than 95% of people involved
[4:34] in plane crashes in the US survived. So,
[4:38] is there anything you can do to avoid
[4:40] being part of that fatal 5%.
[4:45] Well, this plane fire on the tarmac of
[4:47] an English airport in 1985 set one man
[4:50] on the path to find out. There was no
[4:53] crash, no fatal impact, but an engine
[4:57] fire killed nearly half the passengers
[4:59] on board. Why did 55 people die? Why
[5:02] could 55 people not escape? Professor Ed
[5:05] Gala has poured over interviews with
[5:08] 2,000 survivors of 105 plane crashes,
[5:12] analyzing their behavior, creating
[5:15] computer simulations of that behavior,
[5:18] and searching for the keys to survival.
[5:23] If you're traveling in a family group,
[5:24] you should insist that the airline does
[5:26] not separate you um through the
[5:28] aircraft. Uh you should be seated
[5:30] together. Why? Well, it's only natural
[5:32] that if you're involved in that sort of
[5:33] situation, you're going to want to
[5:35] reunite the group before you evacuate.
[5:37] Now, if you do that, that's going to
[5:40] cause havoc. Sit together, but be
[5:43] prepared to split apart in a smokefilled
[5:46] cabin. Perhaps you have one adult is
[5:48] responsible for a particular child and
[5:50] the other adult is responsible for the
[5:51] other child. So now you have essentially
[5:53] two groups of two people and uh the
[5:56] groups should be uh prepared to evacuate
[5:59] through different exits if necessary.
[6:01] And so each child should know you know
[6:03] which parent is is going to be looking
[6:04] after them in that in that situation.
[6:08] The mind goes almost into autopilot. And
[6:11] so when you go to release the the seat
[6:13] belts, you're not really thinking about
[6:14] that. And and and what's your most uh
[6:17] common experience in undoing a seat
[6:18] belt? It's in your car. And how do you
[6:20] undo a seat belt in your car? You press
[6:21] a button. Of course, on a plane, you
[6:24] lift a latch rather than pushing a
[6:26] button. Even pilots traveling back here
[6:29] as passengers have been known to get
[6:32] that wrong.
[6:40] 12 years ago, the pilot of this hijacked
[6:42] Ethiopian Airlines jet ran out of fuel
[6:46] and ditched in the Indian Ocean.
[6:49] About 5 minutes before we crashed, he
[6:51] came on with the first of two
[6:53] announcements
[6:54] saying that you're going to have to
[6:57] ditch to get ready to ditch and for a
[7:00] water landing, you know, to have
[7:02] everything ready, not not to inflate,
[7:04] but have on the life vest.
[7:07] In the panic, not everyone listened.
[7:11] 123 were killed. Many of them drowned,
[7:14] trapped inside the fuselage by their
[7:17] inflated life jacket. If you've inflated
[7:20] your life jacket before you get out, uh
[7:22] there's a good chance that you're going
[7:23] to be floating in the water. And if
[7:25] there's a lot of water in the aircraft,
[7:27] it might actually prevent you from
[7:28] reaching the exit.
[7:31] When we come back, where should you sit
[7:33] on an aircraft to increase your chances
[7:36] of survival?
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[11:10] now continues with his report.
[11:14] >> When a plane crashes, does where you are
[11:17] sitting affect your chances of survival?
[11:20] >> We have no hydraulic fluid, which means
[11:22] we have no elevator control. Uh, almost
[11:25] none. And I have serious doubts about
[11:27] making the airport. In July 1989, after
[11:30] catastrophic engine failure, the pilot
[11:33] of United Flight 232 limped to Sous City
[11:37] Airport where the plane crash landed.
[11:39] >> United 232 heavy city.
[11:49] The family next to me, I believe the
[11:52] mother was killed.
[11:56] One of the people in the seat in front
[11:57] of me was killed. The people in the seat
[12:00] behind me were killed.
[12:05] >> 11 people were killed. 185 survived.
[12:09] >> There is no magic seat on board an
[12:11] aircraft. There is no one seat that is
[12:12] the safest seat on the aircraft.
[12:15] >> In some crashes, you'd be better off
[12:17] sitting in the front. In others, you'd
[12:19] be better off in the back. But on
[12:22] average, some seats are safer than
[12:25] others. What we found is that the
[12:27] average distance that a survivor will
[12:29] travel uh in an evacuation is seven seat
[12:33] rows.
[12:34] >> So sit within seven rows of an exit.
[12:37] Count how many seat backs you are away
[12:40] from your nearest exit in front of you
[12:42] and your nearest exit behind you. Uh why
[12:44] count the seats? Because if you're
[12:46] involved in a fire situation with smoke,
[12:48] you won't necessarily be able to see
[12:49] where the exit is. And what we found uh
[12:52] with our data is that there is a
[12:53] marginal benefit of sitting on the aisle
[12:55] seat as opposed to the window seat or in
[12:58] fact any other seat. An aisle seat
[13:00] because from here it's easier to get on
[13:02] your feet and start heading towards an
[13:04] exit than it would be from over here
[13:07] particularly if there are people sitting
[13:08] in the seats between me and the aisle.
[13:12] In many cases, business class might not
[13:15] just be more comfortable but safer as
[13:18] well. Why? Well, because there are fewer
[13:20] people competing to get to the exit.
[13:41] Once you've survived the impact, fire is
[13:43] the next major cause for concern.
[13:46] In that English plane fire that inspired
[13:49] Gala's research, 48 of the 55 people who
[13:52] died were killed by smoke as they tried
[13:55] to escape. Smoke contains toxic gases.
[14:00] Uh it contains narcotic gases and
[14:02] irritant gases. Uh which if you inhale
[14:04] enough of them, you'll die.
[14:12] One of the things you've got to do is be
[14:14] able to get out of there as quickly as
[14:15] possible before the fire can develop.
[14:17] It's no good having to come up with a
[14:19] strategy once the accident has happened.
[14:22] Things happen too rapidly. You need to
[14:24] have have thought about it beforehand
[14:25] and and and take precautions. Do you
[14:27] carry a smoke hood? I personally carry a
[14:30] smoke hood whenever I travel. And one
[14:32] more thing, do as you're told and adopt
[14:34] the brace position. you're limiting the
[14:37] opportunity for movement of the upper
[14:39] torso and hence you're limiting the
[14:41] impact speed of your head against an
[14:44] obstacle. So the brace position is
[14:45] designed to reduce your chances of being
[14:48] knocked unconscious during a heavy
[14:50] impact and you must be conscious
[14:52] obviously to evacuate.
[14:54] >> This morning in Amsterdam survivors did
[14:56] walk to safety.
[14:59] Our first reaction was to get free from
[15:01] our seat belts, said Me Atman, and head
[15:05] for the exit.
[15:07] >> He was saved by a mixture of instinct,
[15:10] some knowledge, and a lot of luck. I'm
[15:13] Nick Watt from Night Line in London.
[15:15] >> An instinct that might just help others
[15:17] to survive. Our thanks to Nick Watt. And
[15:20] when we come back, we turn the page to
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[19:30] with Martin Basher.
[19:32] Now to Twitter has long been regarded as
[19:35] inconsequential chatter about trivial
[19:38] things, but it's become serious
[19:41] business. People are tweeting, as they
[19:43] call it, from the floor of Congress,
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[19:52] But for John Donvan, it's a sign of the
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[20:02] It's as easy in practice as a stroll
[20:04] through nature. This thing called
[20:06] Twitter. But explaining to someone what
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[20:22] pushed send. And then it happened. Oh my
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[20:34] Wow, a Twitter moment like touching the
[20:37] mind of the universe.
[20:42] >> Okay, actually there's not that much
[20:43] drama involved with Twitter, but Twitter
[20:46] is an authentic phenomenon that is
[20:48] getting even bigger, even faster. Like
[20:51] this big. Last night during the
[20:53] president's speech, people were sending
[20:55] Twitter messages from the floor of
[20:57] Congress, his audience. Last week, Mark
[21:00] Jacobs fashion show. So many people
[21:02] there were sending tweets, that's what a
[21:04] Twitter message is called, that the New
[21:06] York Times commented on it. And last
[21:08] month, when that plane went down in the
[21:10] Hudson, the first photo to travel the
[21:12] world was taken and flagged by a Twitter
[21:15] user who happened to be nearby. So big,
[21:19] so fast, but so difficult to explain if
[21:22] you haven't tried it. As even Twitter's
[21:24] founders, Biz Stone and Evan Williams
[21:26] acknowledged when we spent some time at
[21:28] their San Francisco headquarters a few
[21:29] days ago.
[21:30] >> Why is it so hard to communicate
[21:33] something that then turns out to be very
[21:35] easy to do?
[21:37] >> Well, I mean, I think I think that's
[21:39] just uh actually the root of that I
[21:41] think is a product positioning thing and
[21:43] it's something that Evan and I have been
[21:44] talking about. It's also one of those
[21:46] things that's very experiential
[21:48] experiential where
[21:50] you can explain to someone well you
[21:52] enter what you're doing and you can hear
[21:55] from your friends what they're doing but
[21:57] that sounds rather mundane. So what are
[22:00] you doing? In other words, you really
[22:02] have to try it. And the mechanics are
[22:05] actually even simpler than they sound in
[22:07] the 2 and 1/2 minute what is Twitter
[22:09] video that the company has posted on its
[22:11] website. Thanks to Twitter, it's
[22:12] possible to share short bite-sized
[22:14] updates about your life and follow the
[22:17] updates of people that matter to you via
[22:19] the web. It explains the basics. You
[22:21] send out a message 140 characters long
[22:24] that answers the question, "What are you
[22:26] doing?" And people who want to get an
[22:28] answer to that question can sign up to
[22:30] get your response either in a text
[22:32] message or online. Those people who sign
[22:35] up for your message are called,
[22:37] curiously, followers. The thing that I
[22:40] like to think about in my head when I
[22:41] when I think about it is um is the idea
[22:45] of you know a flock of birds moving
[22:46] around an object in flight. It looks
[22:48] very choreographed. It's rudimentary
[22:50] communication that's happening in real
[22:51] time between individuals and allowing
[22:53] them to move as one in this beautiful
[22:55] way. And I think that's the
[22:56] communication uh that you're talking
[22:58] about that we didn't realize we needed
[23:00] until we had it.
[23:01] >> Okay. If that doesn't clarify, real life
[23:03] example last Thanksgiving. This had
[23:06] started to happen in Mumbai, India, the
[23:08] attacks. But before it really got to the
[23:10] news, the folks at Twitter knew that
[23:13] something was up because they can track
[23:15] up to the minute the words that are
[23:17] getting the most use by their
[23:18] Twitterers. And on that day, it was a
[23:20] lot of it was it was at the end of
[23:22] November, so it was a lot of
[23:23] Thanksgiving, turkey, that kind of
[23:26] stuff. And then I saw Mumbai and I was
[23:29] like what what significance does Mumbai
[23:31] have to Thanksgiving? And I couldn't
[23:33] find any. So I clicked the link and I
[23:35] just see all these all these craziness.
[23:36] >> In fact, the messages were coming from
[23:38] India and from all over the world.
[23:40] Relatives checking up on relatives or
[23:42] just people who were following the news.
[23:44] There were even Twitter messages coming
[23:45] from inside the hotel as the terrorists
[23:48] roamed those hallways. That was a very
[23:51] big day in Twitter's history. its short
[23:54] history launched less than three years
[23:56] ago and housed now in what is still a
[23:58] quite small space and the tour that
[24:00] Bisstone gave me took only about 45
[24:02] seconds from one end to the other and
[24:04] there are only about 30 employees.
[24:06] Twitter was easy to overlook as
[24:08] something trivial, a bulletin board for
[24:10] people who wanted to post what they'd
[24:11] eaten for breakfast or the color of
[24:13] their socks, which of course you can do
[24:16] if you want to. And in fact, Missouri
[24:18] Senator Clare McCascal, who has taken to
[24:20] twittering for her followers from
[24:22] Washington's corridors of power, admits
[24:25] to a little tweeting of that sort.
[24:27] >> Well, I do it to kind of say what's on
[24:29] my mind and to give people a sense of
[24:31] what I do every day and even some
[24:33] personal stuff like, you know, I went
[24:35] off my diet and had chocolate mousse.
[24:37] >> Isn't it presumptuous to think people
[24:38] care what you're doing? It's actually
[24:40] less presumptuous than bumping into a
[24:42] friend and telling them anything because
[24:44] they have to sit there and be polite.
[24:46] >> With with Twitter, it gives you
[24:48] >> Yeah, I see where you're going with
[24:49] this. You can turn it off.
[24:50] >> You can you anyone can turn it off.
[24:52] >> This is Dom Seagallo. He is not with
[24:54] Twitter. He works down the road at
[24:55] Adobe. A man of many interests,
[24:57] including skateboarding. He's writing a
[24:59] book about his Twitter experiences in
[25:01] which he argues that having to say
[25:03] something in just 140 characters, that's
[25:06] a new kind of literature. your ability
[25:08] to express yourself is pretty laid bare
[25:11] and I struggled really hard with a style
[25:13] that is both expressive but um
[25:19] you know unique and and is recognizable
[25:21] out of context. What has really caught
[25:23] you by surprise that you I mean that you
[25:26] didn't see Twitter actually doing or
[25:29] making? Well, there's been a big shift I
[25:31] would say over the last few months. The
[25:33] original idea was more I want to stay in
[25:35] touch with this person I know. And now
[25:37] it's whether it's an event or a concert
[25:39] or where gas is during a shortage in
[25:42] Atlanta, people are finding ways to
[25:45] organize
[25:47] um using Twitter and using the search
[25:48] function to say, okay, who else is
[25:50] talking about that? What are the
[25:52] opinions? Then we all took a little
[25:54] tweet break slightly strange as we all
[25:56] sent out messages about what we were
[25:58] doing at that point in time.
[26:00] So, I've just tweeted that you guys say
[26:02] that if all Night Lines viewers, which
[26:04] on a good night are like four million,
[26:07] were to follow me that your system could
[26:09] handle it.
[26:10] >> Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It's like,
[26:12] >> oh, follow me, my people.
[26:14] >> Just kidding.
[26:15] >> Tweet. Are you making money yet?
[26:18] >> No.
[26:18] >> No.
[26:20] >> Not Not anything meaningful. What we're
[26:22] seeing with Twitter is that people are
[26:25] in general good and they want to do good
[26:27] things and they're making good things
[26:28] happen and they're using our tool to
[26:30] organize these great things.
[26:32] >> So there it is. And if you still don't
[26:34] get it, well, you can just try it. It's
[26:37] pretty simple. By the way, in answer to
[26:39] my hilltop question, what does it mean
[26:41] to tweet? Now from you, I have some
[26:44] answers. Some little birdies told me
[26:55] sweet.
[26:58] Our thanks to John Donan. And apparently
[27:00] my co-anchor Terry Moran has amassed
[27:02] quite a Twitter following. So perhaps
[27:04] this story will help John to catch up.
[27:06] As for me, I prefer a fountain pen. And
[27:10] when we come back, tonight's closing
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[32:08] >> New at 6, not enough money to hire
[32:10] additional police. The city of Greshams
[32:12] found a way around that. The answer,
[32:14] police volunteers.
[32:16] >> There's that whole untapped resource of
[32:19] people that are committed to the
[32:20] community that want to make it better.
[32:23] >> What kind of responsibilities the
[32:25] volunteers would have tonight at 6.
[32:27] >> Looks like the first family has decided
[32:29] on a first dog. Michelle Obama tells
[32:31] People magazine that they're looking for
[32:33] a Portuguese water dog like this one
[32:35] from a rescue group. They like the dog
[32:38] size. Not too big, not too small. It has
[32:40] a sweet temperament and most
[32:42] importantly, it doesn't shed. It's sort
[32:44] of hypoallergenic.
[32:46] 10-year-old Malaya has pet allergies.
[32:49] Target date for the new first family
[32:51] member is sometime in April after the
[32:54] Obama girls spring break. They have not
[32:56] decided on a name.
[32:57] >> No. Well, it took long enough to find
[32:59] the dog.
[33:00] >> Nightly News is next. We'll see you back
[33:02] there at 6.