Roam's co-founder teaches me Roam Research (ft. Conor White-Sullivan)

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[0:00] so what's what's the title of your book

[0:01] do you have a title yet you're like

[0:03] it's building a second brand building a

[0:04] second brain yeah so

[0:06] like you've been sort of a figurehead in

[0:10] thinking about

[0:10] strategies for organizing personal

[0:13] knowledge and actually making a system

[0:14] that works for people for

[0:16] you know for for real knowledge work for

[0:18] having better ideas for like

[0:20] getting control over all the crazy

[0:22] inputs that are coming into your life

[0:23] like making sense of all this stuff and

[0:26] and i i sort of think of you as like the

[0:28] david allen for writers right of like or

[0:31] for

[0:32] for things that aren't just tasks for

[0:34] things that are like long-standing ideas

[0:36] that you're trying to develop

[0:37] um that's what i aspire to for sure yeah

[0:41] he was all about like stress-free

[0:42] productivity and creating an external

[0:43] system that like works for

[0:45] your like tasks and things but certain

[0:47] kinds of

[0:49] insight you can't really put an

[0:50] immediate deadline on

[0:52] and so i i've been really impressed by a

[0:55] lot of your thinking in this space our

[0:57] historical beef is just about tools um

[1:00] because you've seen

[1:01] the rise and fall of probably a hundred

[1:02] different note-taking apps

[1:04] in the course of doing this and people

[1:06] pitching you to try to get you to use

[1:08] this

[1:08] but uh yeah my my beef with the i i

[1:12] similarly have a lot of disdain for the

[1:14] industry as a whole because most people

[1:15] are not actually trying to think things

[1:18] through from first principles and and

[1:20] build a new kind of system but

[1:21] i hate files and folders and i think

[1:23] that a lot of the problems that peopl

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